[10:31] <ShR3K> Hi there ! Is there a possibility to adapt this tuto https://unity.ubuntu.com/getinvolved/development/unity8/ on ubuntu 16.04 ?
[10:31] <ShR3K> I have problem with cmake while building
[11:57] <cimi> ShR3K you have overlay ppa?
[11:57] <cimi> ShR3K https://launchpad.net/~ci-train-ppa-service/+archive/ubuntu/stable-phone-overlay
[11:58]  * cimi lunch soon
[13:06] <cimi> ShR3K solved?
[13:46] <ShR3K> cimi : Yes! Thanks a lot. I thought it was only for 15.04 version
[14:23] <ShR3K> When I run run.sh I have the window displaying but how can I do to have left and right swipe gesture ?
[14:26] <Saviq> ShR3K, by default just grabbing with your mouse close to the edges should work
[14:31] <ShR3K> I don't manage to have left swipe
[14:33] <cimi> ShR3K, you have the indicators or that's just the dash?
[14:34] <ShR3K> cimi, I have indicators. I can swipe from top and switch app with right swiper
[14:38] <cimi> mzanetti, ^^
[14:38] <cimi> launcher hiding
[17:12] <fabrizio_> Hi, I tried to test unity8 as describe in Michael Hall's post "dogfooding unity8", works fine up to the point where I tried to install file manager and terminal using click, I'm getting errors like: "** (process:3874): CRITICAL **: manifest_version: assertion '*manifest != NULL' failed". Has anyone seen this?
[17:15] <bregma> fabrizio_, are you installing the clicks from the command line?
[17:15] <fabrizio_> yes
[17:15] <fabrizio_> in unity7
[19:46] <bschaefer> Saviq, hey if youre still around
[19:46] <bschaefer> playing around with ... unity8 + an xmir surface
[19:46] <bschaefer> unity8 tells it when it loses focus and everything?
[19:46] <bschaefer> (the osk maliit doesnt seem to pick up that it lost focus on the xmir surfaces only)
[19:46] <bschaefer> so im just assuming its xmir fault, but wanted to double if you knew but some random change :)
[19:46] <bschaefer> chance*
[19:49] <Saviq> bschaefer, it should, yes - we don't care if it's a XMir surface or other
[19:49] <Saviq> bschaefer, and with Qt apps the OSK does go away when they lose focus, so...
[19:50] <bschaefer> Saviq, yup so all fingers pointer at xmir not handling w/e unity8 tells it
[19:50] <bschaefer> surface wise...
[19:50]  * bschaefer has to dig around there
[19:50] <bschaefer> Saviq, the xmir surface should still be wrapped in a qt window IIRC?
[19:50] <Saviq> bschaefer, why?
[19:50] <bschaefer> err
[19:51] <bschaefer> that doesnt really make a difference
[19:51] <bschaefer> i see the window go down the stack
[19:51] <Saviq> nope, and doesn't even make sense ;D
[19:51] <bschaefer> :)
[19:51]  * bschaefer is good at that
[19:51] <bschaefer> thanks! Thats pretty much all i needed to know :)
[19:51] <Saviq> bschaefer, you have your SDL magic thingies, you can check that they lose focus ;)
[19:52] <Saviq> and they're not wrapped in qt window
[19:52] <bschaefer> o true
[19:52] <bschaefer> but maliit doesnt work for x11 apps :)
[19:52] <bschaefer> by default
[19:52] <bschaefer> but..
[19:52] <bschaefer> hmm
[19:53] <bschaefer> does a qt input context get generated for an sdl2 window... i would think not (its not x11 soo cant use the xim project)
[19:53] <Saviq> maliit doesn't work for non-Qt apps, because Qt apps ask for it directly over DBus
[19:53]  * bschaefer has to test
[19:53] <bschaefer> Saviq, it'll work for gtk/qt apps
[19:53] <bschaefer> the client creates a plugin input context
[19:53] <bschaefer> that talks over dbus
[19:53] <Saviq> bschaefer, sure, because both qt and gtk have maliit support
[19:53] <bschaefer> yup
[19:53] <bschaefer> annnd since mir doesnt have an API it wont work :)
[19:54] <bschaefer> an InputContext API
[19:54] <bschaefer> Saviq, starting to consider writing something where we can turn maliit keys into just evdev events somehow
[19:54] <bschaefer> if no backend is found... (super backup since that'll break on a few levels)
[19:55] <Saviq> bschaefer, yeah a short thing would have to mean that XMir somehow knows how to talk to maliit and forwards keys as normal input into X11
[19:55]  * bschaefer goes back to figuring out the focus issue :)
[19:55] <bschaefer> Saviq, well actually theres an XIM maliit
[19:55] <bschaefer> server
[19:55] <bschaefer> which i can run on the lxc container
[19:55] <bschaefer> for non qt/gtk apps
[19:55] <bschaefer> but outside of lxc
[19:56] <bschaefer> xapps are screwed :)
[19:56] <bschaefer> such as sdl2/sdl1.2/glfw3
[19:56] <bschaefer> which are all really
[19:56] <bschaefer> pretty much anyone who talks to mir directly and skips the platform
[19:56] <Saviq> yups, until we have MIM
[19:56] <bschaefer> :)
[19:57]  * bschaefer ducks out of the way
[21:51] <zzarr> hello! I can't install containers in libertine
[21:51] <zzarr> opps, wrong button
[21:52] <bregma> zzarr, you mean you can't install apps in a libertine container?
[21:52] <zzarr> no, the container it self
[21:53] <bregma> ah, you're having problems creating a container
[21:54] <zzarr> yes
[21:54] <zzarr> I have version 1.0.2
[21:54] <bregma> unfortunately the expert on that isn't around
[21:54] <zzarr> is there a newer?
[21:54] <bregma> what are you using to create the container?  What device?
[21:55] <zzarr> oh, a laptop computer
[21:55] <bregma> ah, so Unity 8 on Ubuntu 16.04
[21:56] <bregma> or, Unity 7 I suppose
[21:56] <zzarr> exactly right
[21:56] <bregma> and the command line?
[21:56] <zzarr> I don't understand the question
[21:57] <bregma> zzarr, you're using the libertine command-line tools to create the container?
[21:58] <zzarr> ohh, no the gui
[21:58] <zzarr> what is the command line to create a container?
[22:00] <bregma> the GUI currenty has a work in progress to add better error reporting...
[22:00] <zzarr> I see
[22:01] <bregma> the CLI is this: libertine-container-manager create --id mycontainer --name "My Container"
[22:01] <bregma> there is a --help option as well
[22:01] <bregma> you get to see more error messages that way
[22:01] <zzarr> thanks, I will try that
[22:07] <zzarr> I tried to run lxc-attach, but get the response "You lack access to /home/zzarr/.local/share/lxc"
[22:29] <bregma> zzarr, lsc-attach will not work without other magic arguments, try libertine-container-manager --exec --id mycontainer --command /bin/sh
[22:30] <bregma> but then again, you're better off just installing a terminal app and using that, if you ask me
[22:30] <bregma> oh bother, it's " libertine-container-manager exec --id mycontainer --command /bin/sh"
[22:30] <bregma> no -- on the exec
[22:38] <zzarr> I solved the problem by installing a ppa
[22:39] <zzarr> I was able to create a container now
[22:39] <bregma> sweet
[22:39] <bregma> enjoy
[22:39] <zzarr> thanks bregma for your help/time
[22:40] <bregma> (the steam client installs and runs under Unity 8, but has window-management related issues that are being worked on)
[22:41] <zzarr> do you mean that it installes and runs in a container or directly on mir?
[22:41] <bregma> in a container
[22:42] <bregma> the Steam client uses a lot of X11 features
[22:42] <bregma> so do a lot of games
[22:42] <zzarr> okey
[22:43] <zzarr> I have xorg/Unity7 as well, is it possible to link the already installed applications to the container?
[22:45] <bregma> zzarr, unfortunately, not really
[22:45] <bregma> it's designed to isolate apps from the system
[22:45] <zzarr> okey
[22:46] <zzarr> is there a way to list packages so that I can install them in the container?
[22:47] <zzarr> (just names, not anything else)
[22:49] <zzarr> bregma do you know if the performance is good in a container? (3D acceleration)
[23:02] <zzarr> I have to reboot
[23:05] <zzarr> bregma, now I have the problem that applications don't start
[23:06] <zzarr> (x-apps)
[23:10] <zzarr> bregma, if you answered I couldn't see it, I tested the app Ubuntu Keyboard and the display turned black
[23:20] <zzarr> I have to sleep now, it's late here
[23:20] <zzarr> by
[23:20] <zzarr> bye*