| paddatrapper | Morning everyone | 04:42 |
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| mazal | Mornings | 05:41 |
| anton_may | mornings | 05:41 |
| magespawn | good morning | 05:45 |
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| paddatrapper | morning mazal magespawn anton_may | 05:54 |
| === hulk{-_-} is now known as urbanslug | ||
| kulelu88 | you okes are awake early | 06:04 |
| pavlushka- | Who, me? | 06:07 |
| pavlushka- | No, I am sleeping right now! | 06:08 |
| kulelu88 | paddatrapper: what you studying? | 06:09 |
| superfly | o/ | 06:13 |
| pavlushka- | o/ | 06:15 |
| thatgraemeguy | mornings | 06:23 |
| paddatrapper | kulelu88: BSc Computer Science and Computer Engineering | 06:35 |
| kulelu88 | ooohhh fancy. at UCT? | 06:35 |
| inetpro | good mornins | 06:36 |
| paddatrapper | kulelu88: yup. Would like to do Applied maths and Computer Engineering, but have to do Comp Sci with Comp Eng | 06:37 |
| kulelu88 | I think gremble does Applied Math | 06:38 |
| paddatrapper | As far as I remember, yeah | 06:38 |
| kulelu88 | did the fees fall yet? and rhodes? paddatrapper | 06:39 |
| paddatrapper | Lol. No more Rhodes statue and no fee increase this year, but still an interesting time to be here! | 06:39 |
| superfly | paddatrapper: what year are you? | 06:40 |
| kulelu88 | ironically, fees didn't fall, unless the economics students explain how an inflation-increased fee didn't happen, so it did kind of fall | 06:40 |
| paddatrapper | superfly: first. Took a gap year | 06:41 |
| anton_may | Dam wouldn't mind getting this as a "home" PC - http://mybroadband.co.za/news/hardware/164520-the-insane-pc-which-costs-r700000.html | 06:42 |
| paddatrapper | kulelu88: which is exactly why there are still people complaining | 06:42 |
| superfly | paddatrapper: you need to go to #breaktherules and come and intern with us | 06:42 |
| kulelu88 | wow, you must be around 21 or less paddatrapper . you're the youngest here | 06:42 |
| chesedo | morning paddatrapper anton_may magespawn kulelu88 superfly thatgraemeguy and others | 06:43 |
| anton_may | 0/ | 06:43 |
| thatgraemeguy | 'lo | 06:43 |
| superfly | sup chesedo | 06:43 |
| paddatrapper | superfly: I was pretty sad I couldn't make the winter one, definitely plan to do summer at the end of the year | 06:43 |
| paddatrapper | Morning chesedo | 06:43 |
| paddatrapper | kulelu88: seems so, I'm 20 | 06:44 |
| chesedo | kulelu88: blazehen is under 20 afaik | 06:44 |
| superfly | paddatrapper: look out for Nomanini | 06:44 |
| kulelu88 | paddatrapper: what language do they introduce you to programming in? | 06:44 |
| chesedo | not much, just cold and self superfly? | 06:45 |
| paddatrapper | kulelu88: they start with python, then next semester move to Java. I'm fluent in both, so I do other things in lectures | 06:46 |
| superfly | chesedo: not too cold this side | 06:47 |
| kulelu88 | python to java, sounds fun | 06:47 |
| kulelu88 | who likes jquery? :D can someone fix my JSFiddle? https://jsfiddle.net/7x9x2cvd/ | 06:47 |
| chesedo | paddatrapper: is java part of CS or CE? | 06:48 |
| superfly | kulelu88: have you tried looking in your dev console? | 06:49 |
| kulelu88 | superfly: the problem with the fiddle is that it does not render. the code itself works. I'm trying to get a working example | 06:49 |
| paddatrapper | chesedo: CS, but required for CE | 06:50 |
| * Cryterion looks, and goes back to his c/c++ | 06:50 | |
| kulelu88 | makes you want to scratch your eyeballs? Cryterion ;) | 06:50 |
| Cryterion | the java and python does ;) | 06:51 |
| superfly | kulelu88: did you press the play button? | 06:52 |
| superfly | welcome backe unlaudable | 06:55 |
| superfly | gah -e | 06:55 |
| kulelu88 | repeatedly :D | 06:55 |
| paddatrapper | Cryterion: I agree with you. Much prefer c/c++ | 06:55 |
| superfly | kulelu88: I fixed a bunch of things last night, got it mostly working | 06:56 |
| kulelu88 | link? superfly | 06:56 |
| superfly | kulelu88: firstly, your external scripts were http, and jsfiddle is https, so Firefox refused to load them | 06:56 |
| superfly | kulelu88: was yours | 06:56 |
| superfly | but it didn't seem to save | 06:57 |
| kulelu88 | i think that's the main gripe. I need to https these scripts | 06:57 |
| superfly | kulelu88: try this? https://jsfiddle.net/7x9x2cvd/2/ | 06:59 |
| superfly | kulelu88: the two issues I encounter are "$editable.inlineEdit is not a function" and "$.publish is not a function" | 07:00 |
| unlaudable | o/ | 07:00 |
| superfly | which usually means that those two scripts didn't load properly | 07:00 |
| superfly | kulelu88: ah, I'm getting an "insecure response" when Chrome tries to load inlineedit and pubsub | 07:01 |
| kulelu88 | yeah, I sourced those 2 from the guys blog | 07:01 |
| kulelu88 | finding alternatives for them | 07:01 |
| kulelu88 | inlineedit: https://raw.githubusercontent.com/caphun/jquery.inlineedit/master/jquery.inlineedit.js | 07:03 |
| kulelu88 | pubsub: https://gist.githubusercontent.com/loonies/3872697/raw/84b44d14429b219856b14050816e131b9cecc725/pubsub.js | 07:05 |
| kulelu88 | superfly: full working example: https://jsfiddle.net/7x9x2cvd/3/ | 07:09 |
| superfly | not working in chrome for me | 07:11 |
| superfly | js is being returned as text/plain | 07:11 |
| kulelu88 | superfly: try opening the link in firefox | 07:21 |
| kulelu88 | superfly: flush your cache, that may be the issue | 07:28 |
| chesedo | kulelu88: your last one combined with what superfly suggested last night - https://jsfiddle.net/1r5c3oeu/6/ | 07:34 |
| kulelu88 | that's some nice code chesedo :X | 07:35 |
| chesedo | kulelu88: it's fly's | 07:36 |
| kulelu88 | chesedo: my goal is to render each item to look like this: http://www.w3schools.com/jquerymobile/tryit.asp?filename=tryjqmob_lists_split | 07:37 |
| kulelu88 | so the 'x' button goes to the right, split by the block, whilst the content stays on the left | 07:37 |
| kulelu88 | and that is where I was stuck all this time | 07:38 |
| chesedo | kulelu88: i do not know jquery mobile - will check quickly... have you read this though - https://api.jquerymobile.com/listview/ | 07:40 |
| kulelu88 | chesedo: yeah, I've been using w3schools all this time to make it work. some guy in #jquery said I musn't abuse <a> like that | 07:41 |
| Kilos | evening everyone | 07:42 |
| mazal | More oom | 07:42 |
| Kilos | dag seun | 07:42 |
| chesedo | kulelu88: https://jsfiddle.net/1r5c3oeu/7/ - but the code that causes the 'remove' to hide interferce a bit | 08:00 |
| chesedo | naand oom Kilos, gaanit? | 08:01 |
| Kilos | lol hi chesedo ok dsnkie en self | 08:01 |
| chesedo | paddatrapper: hi, sorry for no reply... day was great ty | 08:01 |
| chesedo | goed dankie... het eergister n punte skok gekry met rekenaar wat ons vraestelle verkeerd gemerk het... toe het ek net 33% | 08:03 |
| chesedo | ... met n jaar punt van 9% :P | 08:03 |
| chesedo | Kilos: ^^ | 08:04 |
| Kilos | eish | 08:04 |
| Kilos | het jy dit reg gemaak | 08:04 |
| chesedo | dit was UNISA se rekenaar wat die verkeerde antwoorde gevoer is (opsie een vir al 60 vrae)... studente het toe vinnig gevra wat aan gaan | 08:05 |
| Kilos | sjoe dis n groot skok ne | 08:06 |
| Kilos | hoor nou net wereld banke gehack | 08:06 |
| chesedo | ja een was reeds baie bly wat het net voor dit my beste punt ooit vir n besigheids module gekry | 08:07 |
| chesedo | klink of ons popcorn moet spring... | 08:08 |
| kulelu88 | what was the subject? chesedo | 08:08 |
| chesedo | kulelu88: for the bad mark, C++ programming | 08:09 |
| Kilos | sjoe | 08:09 |
| chesedo | mcq | 08:09 |
| kulelu88 | 10-35% should be average for C++ programming ;) | 08:09 |
| chesedo | all students would have got somewhere around 25% (choices was out of 4) | 08:10 |
| kulelu88 | what should be your actual mark? chesedo | 08:11 |
| chesedo | after the remark it's 89% | 08:12 |
| kulelu88 | hahahaha. you must have felt hollow inside seeing 9% | 08:12 |
| chesedo | yip, felt very 'blankish'... went to look what was wrong immediatly | 08:13 |
| Kilos | bad shocker that | 08:15 |
| chesedo | kulelu88: for the hide behaviour you can remove lines 66-75 unless if you want to do something else | 08:15 |
| chesedo | ... just fading the remove link alone causes white spacing | 08:16 |
| kulelu88 | chesedo: i think there was some issue with your code, cause as soon as I scroll over an item, it deletes it | 08:20 |
| chesedo | kulelu88: lol, yeah... a lot of your selector are very generic... give a bit of time... | 08:21 |
| kulelu88 | chesedo: some guy in jqeury has helped me get to this: https://jsfiddle.net/7camhnjt/12/ | 08:29 |
| chesedo | kulelu88: https://jsfiddle.net/1r5c3oeu/8/ - removed the fade on hover, corrected the delete, and refactor the 'li' creation | 08:30 |
| kulelu88 | you're my hero chesedo :x | 08:31 |
| kulelu88 | remind me to buy you food/drink some day | 08:32 |
| chesedo | lol yw kulelu88 | 08:33 |
| kulelu88 | I never knew javascript could be this complicated | 08:33 |
| kulelu88 | and this is just the first step hahaha | 08:33 |
| * chesedo goes to snacking and back to studies | 08:34 | |
| chesedo | kulelu88: one learns out of complications... will write in a break why i did some stuff for you to learn from | 08:35 |
| kulelu88 | chesedo: what jquery reference are you using? apparently the w3schools reference is shit, so if I could find something more reliable, I will use that | 08:52 |
| Cryterion | Anyone know much anout Ubuntu-MATE? | 08:59 |
| theblazehen | kulelu88: I dunno if they have jquery stuff, but check out mozilla developer network. I hear it's better | 08:59 |
| kulelu88 | theblazehen: I hear you still a laaitie :P | 09:00 |
| theblazehen | kulelu88: well, 19 now so.. | 09:00 |
| kulelu88 | yooooooooh | 09:00 |
| theblazehen | time flies | 09:00 |
| kulelu88 | that's the youngest and oldest is 78 | 09:01 |
| theblazehen | Oh really? heh | 09:01 |
| Kilos | hi Cryterion | 09:01 |
| theblazehen | hi kulelu88 | 09:01 |
| theblazehen | Kilos: * | 09:01 |
| Cryterion | heya Kilos | 09:01 |
| theblazehen | hi Cryterion | 09:01 |
| Kilos | lol @kulelu88 | 09:01 |
| kulelu88 | what you study? theblazehen | 09:01 |
| theblazehen | kulelu88: Doing an internship now, but also have a proper job as a linux admin | 09:01 |
| kulelu88 | oom Kilos is busy writing a compiler in his spare time | 09:02 |
| kulelu88 | regular admin or devopsy? theblazehen | 09:02 |
| theblazehen | kulelu88: Devopsy at internship, more regular at other job, but I'm slowly getting us into using proper config management, wanting to run more stuff in containers etc | 09:02 |
| theblazehen | I don't like docker though :( | 09:03 |
| theblazehen | Prefer lxc | 09:03 |
| theblazehen | Os vs process containers | 09:03 |
| kulelu88 | same pathway/experience I had theblazehen . ended up with LXC | 09:03 |
| kulelu88 | oh wait a second, you work with andrewLSD right? | 09:03 |
| theblazehen | kulelu88: Nice :) Wish I still had my virtualization box at home.. lxc + saltstack ftw | 09:04 |
| theblazehen | Yeah :) | 09:04 |
| theblazehen | What I learnt: Don't buy seagate drives (Well, I already knew that, but they were *really* cheap), and don't buy hard drives all from the same batch | 09:04 |
| Kilos | im trying to remember who uses mate | 09:05 |
| kulelu88 | how do you orchestrate with Salt? I hear Ansible is a better option for using LXC on a single machine | 09:06 |
| theblazehen | kulelu88: Haven't actually got a chance to use it, but salt-ssh is agentless, which should work. | 09:07 |
| Cryterion | Kilos normal ubuntu help might work, hows the problem http://askubuntu.com/questions/770906/qt-unified-linux-x86-2-0-3-online-run-cannot-execute-binary-file-getting-exec-f | 09:07 |
| Cryterion | Exactly the problem I have, same file even | 09:07 |
| kulelu88 | Cryterion: you tried to chmod the executable? | 09:08 |
| Cryterion | yes, chmod 777 | 09:08 |
| Kilos | check if the u buntu mate guys are on irc | 09:09 |
| kulelu88 | remember to answer that question when you find the answer Cryterion | 09:09 |
| Cryterion | will, and there is a channel | 09:10 |
| mazal | *sigh* Why must Fridays always be Mondays in this place | 09:10 |
| Kilos | yay | 09:10 |
| Cryterion | lol | 09:10 |
| mazal | Hi Cryterion | 09:10 |
| Kilos | haha | 09:10 |
| mazal | Shees oom | 09:11 |
| mazal | It's months now that everything goes wrong on Fridays | 09:11 |
| mazal | Without me causing it I have to add | 09:12 |
| kulelu88 | mazal: build failure? | 09:12 |
| mazal | kulelu88, Something of everything. Corrupt OS's , virusses , id1ot's , broken cables | 09:12 |
| * Cryterion hands mazal a 4pound hammer | 09:13 | |
| kulelu88 | mazal: 1 question, is there windows (especially XP) somewhere in the stack? | 09:14 |
| mazal | That sound like a good plan Cryterion | 09:14 |
| mazal | kulelu88, yeah , our whole network is Winbloze 7 | 09:14 |
| Kilos | somewhere i saw mate dev guys | 09:14 |
| kulelu88 | I can't feel you any sympathy then mazal . | 09:17 |
| kulelu88 | try complaining in #windows :P (joke :D ) | 09:17 |
| Squirm | Morning | 09:18 |
| thatgraemeguy | Cryterion: what's the first line of the .run file look like? | 09:18 |
| Squirm | Morning | 09:18 |
| Squirm | superfly: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dVjQoAf47BI | 09:18 |
| kulelu88 | whoa even Squirm is running behind a proxy. you guys are dangerous :O | 09:19 |
| Squirm | Haha | 09:19 |
| Squirm | kulelu88: ZNC | 09:19 |
| Squirm | Shows me what I missed :) | 09:19 |
| Cryterion | thatgraemeguy, it's seems to be a processor thing, The RaspberryPi is ARM11 and not x86 | 09:19 |
| kulelu88 | your own pvt 1? Can I piggyback on it? Squirm | 09:19 |
| kulelu88 | that makes a lot of sense Cryterion . architectural issue | 09:20 |
| Kilos | hi Squirm | 09:20 |
| thatgraemeguy | Cryterion: I ask because .run files are typically self-extracting shell scripts of some form | 09:20 |
| Squirm | Heya Kilos | 09:20 |
| Squirm | and thatgraemeguy | 09:20 |
| Squirm | kulelu88: I'll see what I can do, no promises though :D | 09:20 |
| thatgraemeguy | so perhaps its shebang is referencing a non-existent executable, that would give you the same error message | 09:20 |
| kulelu88 | joke joke Squirm :) aren't you overpaying for Linode though? | 09:21 |
| Kilos | hi thatgraemeguy as well | 09:21 |
| Squirm | Probably. But I host my mail, about 5 email addresses. Not sure what else I could do for the same price | 09:22 |
| Squirm | + I have the benefit of having a server | 09:22 |
| Squirm | for when I need something | 09:22 |
| Squirm | If it werent for the mail, I'd have an EC2 instance | 09:23 |
| Cryterion | thatgraemeguy, it's binary ".ELF......." the .'s have various Hex values | 09:23 |
| thatgraemeguy | ah ok | 09:24 |
| thatgraemeguy | in that case "file filename.run" should tell you what arch it's built for | 09:24 |
| Cryterion | x86, but the raspberry is arm11, so looking to build that arch now | 09:26 |
| kulelu88 | you paying $10 or $20? Squirm | 09:27 |
| magespawn | Kilos: is wolfeyes around? | 09:28 |
| Kilos | Cryterion check if there is a pi channel too | 09:28 |
| Kilos | hi magespawn he said he very busy since early but i can leave him a message for you | 09:29 |
| magespawn | i have a finger print reader i need some more info on, message here or in the real world? | 09:29 |
| Kilos | on pidgin | 09:30 |
| Kilos | lemme see if he answers | 09:31 |
| magespawn | it is a sagem ma 100 | 09:31 |
| superfly | Squirm: nice! | 09:32 |
| Squirm | kulelu88: $10 | 09:34 |
| Squirm | superfly: Yeah - Was there last night | 09:34 |
| FusionSparc | Hey guys, question : I'm in the process of setting up a file server using Ubuntu 16.04 desktop... What is the difference between sambsa shares and publics folders? | 09:56 |
| paddatrapper | FusionSparc: samba shares you can manage more granually and optionally provide access for Windows machines | 10:00 |
| kulelu88 | hey chesedo . I will be back later to chat. thanks so much again. | 10:01 |
| Kilos | ill shout when he answers magespawn | 10:04 |
| Kilos | hi there superfly | 10:04 |
| Kilos | morning paddatrapper | 10:05 |
| paddatrapper | Hey Kilos | 10:05 |
| Kilos | when he gets a break magespawn ill get him here | 10:06 |
| FusionSparc | Noob questions but thought I'd ask... Thought as much, samba seems more secure as well. | 10:07 |
| paddatrapper | Yeah. Pretty much if you are debating it, go Samba if you want permanent shares that can be accessed from a variety of OS's | 10:09 |
| magespawn | ty Kilos | 10:17 |
| magespawn | Kilos: not to much of a stress just looking for the software for the computer side | 10:18 |
| magespawn | a friend is looking to host thier pastel database online to allow remote work, any suggestions for a hosting company that could do this? | 10:21 |
| theblazehen | magespawn: So basically a windows remote desktop? | 11:29 |
| anton_may | magespawn: I would rather go to Sage One Accounting. It's an online accounting portal instead putting the pastel db online. | 11:53 |
| magespawn | anton_may: that is what i thought would be best, but maybe the cost is too much | 12:42 |
| Kilos | hi bushtech | 12:43 |
| magespawn | theblazehen: preferably something that would allow the pastel on the computer to remotely connect to the pastel database | 12:43 |
| Kilos | magespawn ian on his way i think | 12:44 |
| magespawn | thanks Kilos | 12:44 |
| bushtech | Hi Kilos, others | 12:45 |
| magespawn | pastel uses the pervasive database engine with postgresql i think | 12:45 |
| Kilos | just helping him setup konverstion | 12:46 |
| Kilos | he is working on a newly installed kubuntu magespawn | 12:52 |
| Kilos | so im not sure what all needs doing | 12:52 |
| magespawn | i am not sure either | 12:54 |
| Kilos | lol | 12:54 |
| Kilos | no man | 12:54 |
| Kilos | he needs to install konversation etc etc | 12:55 |
| Kilos | has done update/upgrade etc | 12:55 |
| Kilos | and it all happened over about a week, bit here and bit there | 13:00 |
| anton_may | magespawn: well you need to compare the costs of Sage vs. devils box being hacked | 13:00 |
| magespawn | anton_may: that was my advice too, be carefulof security | 13:01 |
| superfly | magespawn: our company uses Xero | 13:01 |
| anton_may | yip, I would rather then look at a VPN solution then | 13:01 |
| superfly | magespawn: Pastel doesn't use PostgreSQL | 13:02 |
| superfly | they do have some server solution thing, but that's probably way more than the elcheapo local version | 13:02 |
| gremble | Good afternoon | 13:06 |
| paddatrapper | 60% packet loss at every point between me and Google.... | 13:10 |
| Kilos | ouch | 13:10 |
| anton_may | ouch isp? | 13:11 |
| paddatrapper | Telkom | 13:11 |
| inetpro | paddatrapper: move your desk :-) | 13:12 |
| paddatrapper | Though I'm getting 68% loss to my router (wifi).... Need to upgrade it | 13:12 |
| theblazehen | paddatrapper: Got a traceroute? | 13:13 |
| theblazehen | Nevermind | 13:13 |
| paddatrapper | theblazehen: running mtr | 13:13 |
| theblazehen | Also, up your laptops tx power | 13:13 |
| theblazehen | 1 sec | 13:13 |
| anton_may | well if you get a +60% drop to your router it does say something | 13:13 |
| paddatrapper | theblazehen: how would I do that? | 13:14 |
| theblazehen | paddatrapper: man iwconfig | 13:14 |
| theblazehen | http://kmkeen.com/linux-wifi/ | 13:14 |
| paddatrapper | Also suspect it has something to do with my wifi driver. Had the same issue under arch, but was fixed in an update that I suspect isn't in 14.04 | 13:15 |
| theblazehen | Go back to arch ;) | 13:15 |
| paddatrapper | Haha. Can't set TX power, not supported | 13:17 |
| theblazehen | paddatrapper: What router? | 13:18 |
| Kilos | hey theblazehen i just got him onto kde | 13:18 |
| theblazehen | A netgear I hope? | 13:18 |
| theblazehen | Kilos: nice | 13:18 |
| paddatrapper | theblazehen: D-Link (because I hate life lol) | 13:19 |
| theblazehen | paddatrapper: Oh :( You can get root on netgears | 13:19 |
| paddatrapper | Wired connection is much better, but still a bit shaky | 13:20 |
| theblazehen | Use a netgear as my wifi access point | 13:20 |
| theblazehen | But a proper pc for the router | 13:20 |
| paddatrapper | I want to run DD-WRT/Open-WRT (can't remember which is the more active one off hand) and whatever I upgrade to | 13:21 |
| Kilos | magespawn lost ian now again after modem died, maybe he gone working again | 13:22 |
| theblazehen | OpenWRT doesn't support adsl | 13:22 |
| paddatrapper | theblazehen: Current priority is a working home server. Then I'll work on internet facing side. I've got the wifi and network nice now (ignoring this issue), so one step at a time as I get the money | 13:22 |
| theblazehen | Don't think ddwrt either | 13:22 |
| theblazehen | and ddwrt isn't open source | 13:22 |
| theblazehen | paddatrapper: Plans for the server? :) | 13:22 |
| paddatrapper | Mainly media server and NAS. DNS as well | 13:23 |
| * theblazehen had one with 20TB storage and 32 GB ram | 13:23 | |
| * paddatrapper is very jealous | 13:23 | |
| * theblazehen needs to reinstall it after the raid died | 13:23 | |
| theblazehen | Bought 4x 5TB seagate drives in a raid 5 | 13:24 |
| theblazehen | 2 disks failed in the first week | 13:24 |
| paddatrapper | The entirety of my current "NAS" is a 2TB USB segate shared from one of the PCs and no backup set up... Got no money for anything else | 13:25 |
| paddatrapper | ouch! | 13:25 |
| chesedo | Maaz tell kulelu88 Here is the (long) summary of what changed and why (and some general tips) - https://hackmd.io/s/r1_L_G7z | 13:25 |
| Maaz | chesedo: Got it, I'll tell kulelu88 on freenode | 13:25 |
| anton_may | ok peeps have a good w/e i'm out of here | 13:54 |
| gremble | CHeers anton_may | 13:55 |
| anton_may | Anonymous just tweeted - Dear #SouthAfrica we have still not forgotten #MarikanaMiners #ExpectUs #SAP was only the start #Anonymous - https://twitter.com/DomainerAnon/status/731120897474633728 | 13:59 |
| magespawn | home time chat later | 14:05 |
| Kilos | hi Wolfeyes | 14:47 |
| Wolfeyes | hey Kilos | 14:53 |
| Wolfeyes | good day everyone | 14:53 |
| Squirm | Home time | 15:01 |
| Squirm | Woop | 15:01 |
| Squirm | Hi Wolfeyes | 15:01 |
| Squirm | Bye Wolfeyes | 15:01 |
| Kilos | cheersa Squirm | 15:01 |
| Squirm | and Kilos | 15:01 |
| Kilos | fel free to visit again | 15:01 |
| Kilos | feel | 15:01 |
| Kilos | hehe | 15:01 |
| Squirm | Haha | 15:01 |
| Squirm | Yeah - I should pop by more often | 15:01 |
| Squirm | Just lack of time | 15:01 |
| Squirm | and distration | 15:01 |
| Kilos | yay | 15:02 |
| Squirm | distraction | 15:02 |
| kulelu88 | that's an amazing write up chesedo . I can see you're already a solid software engineer with code and documentation :D | 15:06 |
| Wolfeyes | lol @ Squirm | 15:06 |
| Wolfeyes | where where where kulelu88, may I see too lol | 15:07 |
| kulelu88 | Wolfeyes: https://hackmd.io/s/r1_L_G7z | 15:07 |
| kulelu88 | superfly: say I have a complete alpha release of a piece of code I am happy with and I don't want to change it but keep improving the code, do I now "git" this code? | 15:13 |
| Wolfeyes | ty | 15:14 |
| chesedo | lol ty kulelu88 | 15:28 |
| Kilos | ai! | 15:39 |
| paddatrapper | Well after about a week, I can say without a doubt that tlp has given me 30 minutes to an hour more battery life | 16:07 |
| theblazehen | kulelu88: yeag | 16:25 |
| theblazehen | Yeah | 16:25 |
| gremble | kulelu88, You gitted your code yet? | 16:25 |
| superfly | kulelu88: yes, put it into version control. I would start when I start writing code, not later. The sooner the better. | 16:27 |
| superfly | If you want to go with git, I recommend GitLab over Github. | 16:29 |
| superfly | It is free as in freedom as well as free as in beer. | 16:29 |
| superfly | You can also look at Bitbucket for both git and Mercurial | 16:30 |
| superfly | (they've been around longer than Github and I trust them more) | 16:31 |
| kulelu88 | superfly: this code is open source, so it can stay on facebook for coders aka Github :P | 16:36 |
| kulelu88 | I really wanted to try that other VCS you mentioned superfly . the simpler one | 16:36 |
| superfly | kulelu88: I'm taking about open source code | 16:36 |
| kulelu88 | yo gremble , you no longer the 'laaitie' here. lots of young ones lurking here :D | 16:37 |
| superfly | kulelu88: bazaar? | 16:37 |
| kulelu88 | yeah, bazaar, thats it | 16:37 |
| superfly | Ah | 16:37 |
| superfly | Launchpad.net is the only bzr hosting I know of | 16:38 |
| superfly | Git can be simple if there's only one committer | 16:38 |
| superfly | And because Linus likes to email for patches around, apparently everyone must use git | 16:39 |
| superfly | s/for/git/ | 16:39 |
| kulelu88 | the linus element is strong in why git got chosen over the others | 16:39 |
| kulelu88 | probably why Go and Rust will win over Crystal and Nim | 16:40 |
| superfly | I got started with bzr long before git and hg were popular. In fact, at the time, bzr was probably the most popular | 16:41 |
| superfly | kulelu88: actually, BitKeeper was recently open sourced | 16:41 |
| kulelu88 | you making it sound like you were there when C version 0.01 was launched superfly :D | 16:42 |
| superfly | kulelu88: almost :-P | 16:42 |
| kulelu88 | Gogs is really interesting. apparently it can be run on a rPI | 16:42 |
| superfly | kulelu88: I've used Subversion and CVS. tell any older dev that and they'll probably shudder | 16:43 |
| kulelu88 | time flies though. I've been using git for like 3/4 years on/off | 16:44 |
| Kilos | LP gives you karma if you work there | 16:45 |
| Kilos | if you are a member of a loco that is | 16:45 |
| theblazehen | +1 for gogs in comparison to gitlab | 16:54 |
| Kilos | i go eat | 16:59 |
| superfly | Ah yes, now I remember, the Github clone hosted on Github. How ironic. | 17:16 |
| superfly | Even GitLab is hosted on GitLab | 17:18 |
| superfly | Maaz: ur | 17:24 |
| Maaz | superfly: Ur is the ancient Sumerian city that dominated Mesopotamia from 6000 BC to 600 BC. If you mean "you are" or "your", just say so. | 17:24 |
| magespawn | good evening | 17:42 |
| Kilos | hi magespawn | 17:46 |
| Kilos | lol ur | 17:46 |
| Kilos | inetpro find it please | 17:47 |
| Kilos | i forgot the switch for youtube-dl to get sound only | 17:47 |
| Kilos | anyone else is welcome to jump in as well | 17:48 |
| Kilos | dont let me waste data trying to find it | 17:49 |
| Kilos | maybe -c | 17:49 |
| magespawn | not to sure what you are looking for Kilos | 17:49 |
| Kilos | hmm... | 17:50 |
| Kilos | you download only the song magespawn not the vido | 17:50 |
| Kilos | i told pro | 17:50 |
| paddatrapper | -X I think | 17:50 |
| Kilos | and he is good at finding things | 17:50 |
| magespawn | using what though? wget? | 17:50 |
| Kilos | hmm... | 17:51 |
| Kilos | youtube-dl | 17:51 |
| inetpro | Kilos: man youtube-dl | 17:51 |
| Kilos | so difficult using a laptop with only one drive | 17:51 |
| magespawn | never heard of it | 17:51 |
| paddatrapper | youtubedl -X 'URL' | 17:51 |
| Kilos | lol inetpro you know i battle with man | 17:52 |
| Kilos | but ill look | 17:52 |
| paddatrapper | will do it, but it is post-processing so will download both and then extract the audio | 17:52 |
| Kilos | was a -c or -a | 17:52 |
| Kilos | X doesnt look right | 17:52 |
| paddatrapper | Kilos: -c means continue/resume | 17:53 |
| Kilos | on youtube -dl as well? | 17:53 |
| Kilos | i use -c on wget | 17:53 |
| paddatrapper | -a provides a input file of URLS | 17:54 |
| paddatrapper | I'm looking at youtube-dl docs | 17:54 |
| Kilos | something with 140 as well | 17:54 |
| paddatrapper | https://github.com/rg3/youtube-dl has the docs I'm looking at | 17:54 |
| inetpro | -F, --list-formats | 17:54 |
| inetpro | List all available formats of requested videos | 17:54 |
| Kilos | youtube-dl -? 140 link | 17:54 |
| inetpro | paddatrapper: man youtube-dl | 17:55 |
| paddatrapper | Not on a Linux box at the moment. Internet is the best I can do | 17:56 |
| Kilos | might be -x paddatrapper | 17:58 |
| Kilos | so much reading | 17:58 |
| Kilos | sigh | 17:58 |
| paddatrapper | -x, --extract-audio Convert video files to audio-only files | 17:58 |
| Kilos | thats why i told pro, he members or finds thing easy | 17:58 |
| Kilos | that must be it | 17:59 |
| Kilos | your memory is good | 17:59 |
| Kilos | pros big prob is he likes promoting man pages | 17:59 |
| paddatrapper | I just can google quickly :) | 17:59 |
| Kilos | haha | 18:00 |
| theblazehen | Kilos: Man pages are great :) | 18:00 |
| paddatrapper | Haha. They are useful, but not when I don't have access to them | 18:00 |
| Kilos | eeeeeek | 18:00 |
| theblazehen | paddatrapper: I hate it when the man command isn't available :( | 18:00 |
| inetpro | Kilos: -F, --list-formats | 18:00 |
| Kilos | only useful thing i ever found and understood in man pages was -c for wget | 18:00 |
| magespawn | paddatrapper: it is cross platform so you could install it there if youwanted | 18:00 |
| inetpro | once you know the formats you select the format to download with -f | 18:01 |
| magespawn | then it might have some version of hel[ | 18:01 |
| * Kilos hates trying to figure anythong out on man pages | 18:01 | |
| magespawn | help | 18:01 |
| paddatrapper | magespawn: I'm not usually on Windows, trying to figure out Linux commands | 18:01 |
| inetpro | ai! | 18:02 |
| * magespawn thinks that is Kilos' problem | 18:02 | |
| Kilos | what magespawn | 18:02 |
| Kilos | thats why when i find something that works i tell you guys | 18:02 |
| Kilos | so you can remember it for me | 18:03 |
| Kilos | not tell me to sukkel in man bla bla | 18:03 |
| inetpro | Kilos: youtube-dl -F https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KCYEDj69IRg | 18:05 |
| inetpro | then, select the format of your choice, e.g., youtube-dl -f 140 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KCYEDj69IRg | 18:06 |
| inetpro | simple stuff man | 18:06 |
| inetpro | it's all in the man pages | 18:06 |
| Kilos | yay ty inetpro so it was -f 140 | 18:06 |
| Kilos | might try 160 | 18:07 |
| Kilos | trying to understand the diffs | 18:07 |
| inetpro | Kilos: it's not necessarily always 140 | 18:07 |
| inetpro | you need to look at the output of -F | 18:07 |
| Kilos | i am atm | 18:07 |
| Kilos | but so much there | 18:07 |
| inetpro | pick and choose | 18:08 |
| Kilos | thats like telling someone to take your pick in a room full of shovels | 18:08 |
| Kilos | i remember te 140 always worked ok | 18:09 |
| Kilos | not sure if 160 or others are better quality or what | 18:09 |
| inetpro | remember, some of it is video only, if I understand that correctly, that means no sound | 18:10 |
| Kilos | lol | 18:10 |
| magespawn | so could end up with a sound file with nothing in it the length of the video | 18:11 |
| Kilos | 140 has always worked ok so far , my ears arent that picky anymore | 18:11 |
| magespawn | would be interesting if that happened | 18:11 |
| Kilos | but my brat has a music ear so dont want the worst quality | 18:12 |
| Kilos | thank you for the help guys | 18:14 |
| Kilos | look at this youtube-dl -f 160 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KCYEDj69IRg | 18:17 |
| Kilos | dunno where that came from was in the download | 18:17 |
| Kilos | put wrong link | 18:18 |
| inetpro | Kilos: tie a knot in your handkerchief | 18:20 |
| Kilos | lol | 18:20 |
| Kilos | 160mbrings vid and no audio | 18:20 |
| Kilos | sigh | 18:20 |
| inetpro | put a rubber band on your wrist to remember that | 18:22 |
| Kilos | 140 is the one to use | 18:22 |
| magespawn | has anyone seen this https://is.gd/WNbf14 | 18:23 |
| Kilos | no man its all the switch things all over the place that mix me up | 18:23 |
| inetpro | magespawn: never seen it | 18:25 |
| Kilos | paddatrapper its -f 140 | 18:28 |
| Kilos | remeber that | 18:28 |
| Kilos | pretty please | 18:29 |
| paddatrapper | Kilos: I'll try | 18:29 |
| Kilos | lol | 18:29 |
| magespawn | inetpro: just thought it might be interesting to those who use nginx | 18:38 |
| Kilos | bushtech_ hoekom so still | 18:56 |
| Kilos | ek slaap amper | 18:56 |
| bushtech_ | weet niks van die goed waaroor julle praat nie | 18:57 |
| Kilos | ek ook nie | 18:57 |
| bushtech_ | stil bek is 'n heel bek | 18:57 |
| Kilos | lol | 18:57 |
| Kilos | jy moet darem groet | 18:58 |
| Kilos | anders dink ek jy is miskien siek en kannie vra vir hulp nie | 18:58 |
| bushtech_ | sit en wonder oor die forecast op my weerstasie | 18:58 |
| Kilos | ai! 20 more hier | 18:59 |
| bushtech_ | die deng seg ons gaan more 30mm reen kry | 18:59 |
| Kilos | sjoe dis goed | 18:59 |
| Kilos | ek hoop ons kry ook reen | 18:59 |
| Kilos | maar dan gaan dit eers koud word | 18:59 |
| bushtech_ | jy is nie baie ver van my af nie | 18:59 |
| bushtech_ | wel sover lyk die winter meer na lente | 19:00 |
| Kilos | is dit net so drooog by julle | 19:00 |
| Kilos | tot die vissies in die spruit spoeg stof uit hier | 19:01 |
| bushtech_ | yep maar die laat reen het gehelp | 19:01 |
| theblazehen | eish | 19:02 |
| theblazehen | I wish there was more time.. | 19:02 |
| Kilos | hahaha | 19:02 |
| bushtech_ | maar Vaalkopdam is 60% en somer reen nog ver | 19:02 |
| Kilos | tell everyone how you feel about time in 40 years from now | 19:03 |
| bushtech_ | heh heh yes | 19:03 |
| Kilos | ja dinge lyk maar sleg | 19:03 |
| theblazehen | This week flew past.. | 19:03 |
| Kilos | every years they go faster | 19:04 |
| theblazehen | Feels like just yesterday was sunday | 19:04 |
| * theblazehen has 20+ hours of work to do over the weekend.. | 19:04 | |
| Kilos | sjoe | 19:04 |
| * theblazehen is gonna get started | 19:04 | |
| bushtech_ | as long as you get paid for it | 19:04 |
| theblazehen | bushtech_: Very well :) | 19:04 |
| Kilos | then make the most of your time | 19:05 |
| bushtech_ | ok then the o/t never worried me | 19:05 |
| theblazehen | Yeah. Would be nice if I had *some* free time though.. Although I did get dinner with friends during the week | 19:05 |
| Kilos | lol | 19:06 |
| Kilos | look after your health as well | 19:06 |
| * theblazehen isn't happy with how little work I've been doing past few weeks though :( Only been getting around 14 hours done / weekend for past 2 months | 19:06 | |
| bushtech_ | stuff the free time if you can retire early | 19:06 |
| Kilos | not enough sleep aint good | 19:06 |
| theblazehen | Eh | 19:06 |
| theblazehen | Yeah, I love sleep.. :( | 19:06 |
| theblazehen | http://www.wikihow.com/Adopt-a-Polyphasic-Sleep-Schedule want to try this | 19:07 |
| theblazehen | Can't though | 19:08 |
| theblazehen | Will just stick with normal little sleep | 19:08 |
| paddatrapper | The problem is finding the time in the middle of the day | 19:12 |
| theblazehen | Exactly | 19:13 |
| theblazehen | Could work if you worked from home | 19:13 |
| Kilos | night all. sleep tight | 19:14 |
| Kilos | see you tomorrow | 19:14 |
| magespawn | theblazehen: i seem to find the time for that every now and then | 19:39 |
| theblazehen | magespawn: Normal sleep or the mid day slee[? | 19:39 |
| theblazehen | It's so annoying.. | 19:40 |
| theblazehen | Maybe I should have a bar one | 19:40 |
| magespawn | the miday, so biphasic according to tthat article | 19:41 |
| magespawn | the only problem with some of those more exterem patterns is having to maintain a normal work pattern/hours | 19:43 |
| magespawn | extreme | 19:43 |
| magespawn | having said that i am off to bed, good night all | 19:46 |
| chesedo | hi deegee | 21:01 |
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