[04:42] <paddatrapper> Morning everyone 
[05:41] <mazal> Mornings
[05:41] <anton_may> mornings
[05:45] <magespawn> good morning
[05:54] <paddatrapper> morning mazal magespawn anton_may 
[06:04] <kulelu88> you okes are awake early
[06:07] <pavlushka-> Who, me?
[06:08] <pavlushka-> No, I am sleeping right now!
[06:09] <kulelu88> paddatrapper: what you studying? 
[06:13] <superfly> o/
[06:15] <pavlushka-> o/
[06:23] <thatgraemeguy> mornings
[06:35] <paddatrapper> kulelu88: BSc Computer Science and Computer Engineering 
[06:35] <kulelu88> ooohhh fancy. at UCT?
[06:36] <inetpro> good mornins
[06:37] <paddatrapper> kulelu88: yup. Would like to do Applied maths and Computer Engineering, but have to do Comp Sci with Comp Eng
[06:38] <kulelu88> I think gremble does Applied Math
[06:38] <paddatrapper> As far as I remember, yeah 
[06:39] <kulelu88> did the fees fall yet? and rhodes? paddatrapper 
[06:39] <paddatrapper> Lol. No more Rhodes statue and no fee increase this year, but still an interesting time to be here!
[06:40] <superfly> paddatrapper: what year are you?
[06:40] <kulelu88> ironically, fees didn't fall, unless the economics students explain how an inflation-increased fee didn't happen, so it did kind of fall
[06:41] <paddatrapper> superfly: first. Took a gap year 
[06:42] <anton_may> Dam wouldn't mind getting this as a "home" PC - http://mybroadband.co.za/news/hardware/164520-the-insane-pc-which-costs-r700000.html
[06:42] <paddatrapper> kulelu88: which is exactly why there are still people complaining 
[06:42] <superfly> paddatrapper: you need to go to #breaktherules and come and intern with us
[06:42] <kulelu88> wow, you must be around 21 or less paddatrapper  . you're the youngest here
[06:43] <chesedo> morning paddatrapper anton_may magespawn kulelu88 superfly thatgraemeguy and others
[06:43] <anton_may> 0/
[06:43] <thatgraemeguy> 'lo
[06:43] <superfly> sup chesedo
[06:43] <paddatrapper> superfly: I was pretty sad I couldn't make the winter one, definitely plan to do summer at the end of the year 
[06:43] <paddatrapper> Morning chesedo
[06:44] <paddatrapper> kulelu88: seems so, I'm 20
[06:44] <chesedo> kulelu88: blazehen is under 20 afaik
[06:44] <superfly> paddatrapper: look out for Nomanini
[06:44] <kulelu88> paddatrapper: what language do they introduce you to programming in? 
[06:45] <chesedo> not much, just cold and self superfly?
[06:46] <paddatrapper> kulelu88: they start with python, then next semester move to Java. I'm fluent in both, so I do other things in lectures 
[06:47] <superfly> chesedo: not too cold this side
[06:47] <kulelu88> python to java, sounds fun
[06:47] <kulelu88> who likes jquery? :D can someone fix my JSFiddle? https://jsfiddle.net/7x9x2cvd/ 
[06:48] <chesedo> paddatrapper: is java part of CS or CE?
[06:49] <superfly> kulelu88: have you tried looking in your dev console?
[06:49] <kulelu88> superfly: the problem with the fiddle is that it does not render. the code itself works. I'm trying to get a working example 
[06:50] <paddatrapper> chesedo: CS, but required for CE
[06:50]  * Cryterion looks, and goes back to his c/c++
[06:50] <kulelu88> makes you want to scratch your eyeballs? Cryterion ;)
[06:51] <Cryterion> the java and python does ;)
[06:52] <superfly> kulelu88: did you press the play button?
[06:55] <superfly> welcome backe unlaudable
[06:55] <superfly> gah -e
[06:55] <kulelu88> repeatedly :D
[06:55] <paddatrapper> Cryterion: I agree with you. Much prefer c/c++
[06:56] <superfly> kulelu88: I fixed a bunch of things last night, got it mostly working
[06:56] <kulelu88> link? superfly 
[06:56] <superfly> kulelu88: firstly, your external scripts were http, and jsfiddle is https, so Firefox refused to load them
[06:56] <superfly> kulelu88: was yours
[06:57] <superfly> but it didn't seem to save
[06:57] <kulelu88> i think that's the main gripe. I need to https these scripts
[06:59] <superfly> kulelu88: try this? https://jsfiddle.net/7x9x2cvd/2/
[07:00] <superfly> kulelu88: the two issues I encounter are "$editable.inlineEdit is not a function" and "$.publish is not a function"
[07:00] <unlaudable> o/
[07:00] <superfly> which usually means that those two scripts didn't load properly
[07:01] <superfly> kulelu88: ah, I'm getting an "insecure response" when Chrome tries to load inlineedit and pubsub
[07:01] <kulelu88> yeah, I sourced those 2 from the guys blog
[07:01] <kulelu88> finding alternatives for them
[07:03] <kulelu88> inlineedit: https://raw.githubusercontent.com/caphun/jquery.inlineedit/master/jquery.inlineedit.js
[07:05] <kulelu88> pubsub: https://gist.githubusercontent.com/loonies/3872697/raw/84b44d14429b219856b14050816e131b9cecc725/pubsub.js
[07:09] <kulelu88> superfly: full working example: https://jsfiddle.net/7x9x2cvd/3/
[07:11] <superfly> not working in chrome for me
[07:11] <superfly> js is being returned as text/plain
[07:21] <kulelu88> superfly: try opening the link in firefox
[07:28] <kulelu88> superfly: flush your cache, that may be the issue
[07:34] <chesedo> kulelu88: your last one combined with what superfly suggested last night - https://jsfiddle.net/1r5c3oeu/6/
[07:35] <kulelu88> that's some nice code chesedo :X
[07:36] <chesedo> kulelu88: it's fly's
[07:37] <kulelu88> chesedo: my goal is to render each item to look like this: http://www.w3schools.com/jquerymobile/tryit.asp?filename=tryjqmob_lists_split
[07:37] <kulelu88> so the 'x' button goes to the right, split by the block, whilst the content stays on the left
[07:38] <kulelu88> and that is where I was stuck all this time 
[07:40] <chesedo> kulelu88: i do not know jquery mobile - will check quickly... have you read this though - https://api.jquerymobile.com/listview/
[07:41] <kulelu88> chesedo: yeah, I've been using w3schools all this time to make it work. some guy in #jquery said I musn't abuse <a> like that
[07:42] <Kilos> evening everyone
[07:42] <mazal> More oom
[07:42] <Kilos> dag seun
[08:00] <chesedo> kulelu88: https://jsfiddle.net/1r5c3oeu/7/ - but the code that causes the 'remove' to hide interferce a bit
[08:01] <chesedo> naand oom Kilos, gaanit?
[08:01] <Kilos> lol hi chesedo ok dsnkie en self
[08:01] <chesedo> paddatrapper: hi, sorry for no reply... day was great ty
[08:03] <chesedo> goed dankie... het eergister n punte skok gekry met rekenaar wat ons vraestelle verkeerd gemerk het... toe het ek net 33%
[08:03] <chesedo> ... met n jaar punt van 9% :P
[08:04] <chesedo> Kilos: ^^
[08:04] <Kilos> eish
[08:04] <Kilos> het jy dit reg gemaak
[08:05] <chesedo> dit was UNISA se rekenaar wat die verkeerde antwoorde gevoer is (opsie een vir al 60 vrae)... studente het toe vinnig gevra wat aan gaan
[08:06] <Kilos> sjoe dis n groot skok ne
[08:06] <Kilos> hoor nou net wereld banke gehack
[08:07] <chesedo> ja een was reeds baie bly wat het net voor dit my beste punt ooit vir n besigheids module gekry
[08:08] <chesedo> klink of ons popcorn moet spring...
[08:08] <kulelu88> what was the subject? chesedo 
[08:09] <chesedo> kulelu88: for the bad mark, C++ programming
[08:09] <Kilos> sjoe
[08:09] <chesedo> mcq
[08:09] <kulelu88> 10-35% should be average for C++ programming ;)
[08:10] <chesedo> all students would have got somewhere around 25% (choices was out of 4)
[08:11] <kulelu88> what should be your actual mark? chesedo 
[08:12] <chesedo> after the remark it's 89%
[08:12] <kulelu88> hahahaha. you must have felt hollow inside seeing 9%
[08:13] <chesedo> yip, felt very 'blankish'... went to look what was wrong immediatly
[08:15] <Kilos> bad shocker that
[08:15] <chesedo> kulelu88: for the hide behaviour you can remove lines 66-75 unless if you want to do something else
[08:16] <chesedo> ... just fading the remove link alone causes white spacing
[08:20] <kulelu88> chesedo: i think there was some issue with your code, cause as soon as I scroll over an item, it deletes it
[08:21] <chesedo> kulelu88: lol, yeah... a lot of your selector are very generic... give a bit of time...
[08:29] <kulelu88> chesedo: some guy in jqeury has helped me get to this: https://jsfiddle.net/7camhnjt/12/
[08:30] <chesedo> kulelu88: https://jsfiddle.net/1r5c3oeu/8/ - removed the fade on hover, corrected the delete, and refactor the 'li' creation
[08:31] <kulelu88> you're my hero chesedo :x
[08:32] <kulelu88> remind me to buy you food/drink some day
[08:33] <chesedo> lol yw kulelu88
[08:33] <kulelu88> I never knew javascript could be this complicated
[08:33] <kulelu88> and this is just the first step hahaha
[08:34]  * chesedo goes to snacking and back to studies
[08:35] <chesedo> kulelu88: one learns out of complications... will write in a break why i did some stuff for you to learn from
[08:52] <kulelu88> chesedo: what jquery reference are you using? apparently the w3schools reference is shit, so if I could find something more reliable, I will use that
[08:59] <Cryterion> Anyone know much anout Ubuntu-MATE?
[08:59] <theblazehen> kulelu88: I dunno if they have jquery stuff, but check out mozilla developer network. I hear it's better
[09:00] <kulelu88> theblazehen: I hear you still a laaitie :P
[09:00] <theblazehen> kulelu88: well, 19 now so..
[09:00] <kulelu88> yooooooooh
[09:00] <theblazehen> time flies
[09:01] <kulelu88> that's the youngest and oldest is 78 
[09:01] <theblazehen> Oh really? heh
[09:01] <Kilos> hi Cryterion 
[09:01] <theblazehen> hi kulelu88
[09:01] <theblazehen> Kilos: *
[09:01] <Cryterion> heya Kilos
[09:01] <theblazehen> hi Cryterion
[09:01] <Kilos> lol @kulelu88
[09:01] <kulelu88> what you study? theblazehen 
[09:01] <theblazehen> kulelu88: Doing an internship now, but also have a proper job as a linux admin
[09:02] <kulelu88> oom Kilos is busy writing a compiler in his spare time
[09:02] <kulelu88> regular admin or devopsy? theblazehen 
[09:02] <theblazehen> kulelu88: Devopsy at internship, more regular at other job, but I'm slowly getting us into using proper config management, wanting to run more stuff in containers etc
[09:03] <theblazehen> I don't like docker though :(
[09:03] <theblazehen> Prefer lxc
[09:03] <theblazehen> Os vs process containers
[09:03] <kulelu88> same pathway/experience I had theblazehen . ended up with LXC
[09:03] <kulelu88> oh wait a second, you work with andrewLSD right?
[09:04] <theblazehen> kulelu88: Nice :) Wish I still had my virtualization box at home.. lxc + saltstack ftw
[09:04] <theblazehen> Yeah :)
[09:04] <theblazehen> What I learnt: Don't buy seagate drives (Well, I already knew that, but they were *really* cheap), and don't buy hard drives all from the same batch
[09:05] <Kilos> im trying to remember who uses mate
[09:06] <kulelu88> how do you orchestrate with Salt? I hear Ansible is a better option for using LXC on a single machine
[09:07] <theblazehen> kulelu88: Haven't actually got a chance to use it, but salt-ssh is agentless,  which should work. 
[09:07] <Cryterion> Kilos normal ubuntu help might work, hows the problem http://askubuntu.com/questions/770906/qt-unified-linux-x86-2-0-3-online-run-cannot-execute-binary-file-getting-exec-f
[09:07] <Cryterion> Exactly the problem I have, same file even
[09:08] <kulelu88> Cryterion: you tried to chmod the executable?
[09:08] <Cryterion> yes, chmod 777
[09:09] <Kilos> check if the u buntu mate guys are on irc
[09:09] <kulelu88> remember to answer that question when you find the answer Cryterion 
[09:10] <Cryterion> will, and there is a channel
[09:10] <mazal> *sigh* Why must Fridays always be Mondays in this place
[09:10] <Kilos> yay
[09:10] <Cryterion> lol
[09:10] <mazal> Hi Cryterion
[09:10] <Kilos> haha
[09:11] <mazal> Shees oom
[09:11] <mazal> It's months now that everything goes wrong on Fridays
[09:12] <mazal> Without me causing it I have to add
[09:12] <kulelu88> mazal: build failure? 
[09:12] <mazal> kulelu88, Something of everything. Corrupt OS's , virusses , id1ot's , broken cables
[09:13]  * Cryterion hands mazal a 4pound hammer
[09:14] <kulelu88> mazal: 1 question, is there windows (especially XP) somewhere in the stack? 
[09:14] <mazal> That sound like a good plan Cryterion
[09:14] <mazal> kulelu88, yeah , our whole network is Winbloze 7
[09:14] <Kilos> somewhere i saw mate dev guys
[09:17] <kulelu88> I can't feel you any sympathy then mazal .
[09:17] <kulelu88> try complaining in #windows :P (joke :D )
[09:18] <Squirm> Morning
[09:18] <thatgraemeguy> Cryterion: what's the first line of the .run file look like?
[09:18] <Squirm> Morning
[09:18] <Squirm> superfly: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dVjQoAf47BI
[09:19] <kulelu88> whoa even Squirm is running behind a proxy. you guys are dangerous :O
[09:19] <Squirm> Haha
[09:19] <Squirm> kulelu88: ZNC
[09:19] <Squirm> Shows me what I missed :)
[09:19] <Cryterion> thatgraemeguy, it's seems to be a processor thing, The RaspberryPi is ARM11 and not x86
[09:19] <kulelu88> your own pvt 1? Can I piggyback on it? Squirm 
[09:20] <kulelu88> that makes a lot of sense Cryterion . architectural issue
[09:20] <Kilos> hi Squirm 
[09:20] <thatgraemeguy> Cryterion: I ask because .run files are typically self-extracting shell scripts of some form
[09:20] <Squirm> Heya Kilos
[09:20] <Squirm> and thatgraemeguy
[09:20] <Squirm> kulelu88: I'll see what I can do, no promises though :D
[09:20] <thatgraemeguy> so perhaps its shebang is referencing a non-existent executable, that would give you the same error message
[09:21] <kulelu88> joke joke Squirm :) aren't you overpaying for Linode though? 
[09:21] <Kilos> hi thatgraemeguy as well
[09:22] <Squirm> Probably. But I host my mail, about 5 email addresses. Not sure what else I could do for the same price
[09:22] <Squirm> + I have the benefit of having a server
[09:22] <Squirm> for when I need something
[09:23] <Squirm> If it werent for the mail, I'd have an EC2 instance
[09:23] <Cryterion> thatgraemeguy, it's binary ".ELF......." the .'s have various Hex values
[09:24] <thatgraemeguy> ah ok
[09:24] <thatgraemeguy> in that case "file filename.run" should tell you what arch it's built for
[09:26] <Cryterion> x86, but the raspberry is arm11, so looking to build that arch now
[09:27] <kulelu88> you paying $10 or $20? Squirm 
[09:28] <magespawn> Kilos: is wolfeyes around?
[09:28] <Kilos> Cryterion check if there is a pi channel too
[09:29] <Kilos> hi magespawn he said he very busy since early but i can leave him a message for you
[09:29] <magespawn> i have a finger print reader i need some more info on, message here or in the real world?
[09:30] <Kilos> on pidgin
[09:31] <Kilos> lemme see if he answers
[09:31] <magespawn> it is a sagem ma 100
[09:32] <superfly> Squirm: nice!
[09:34] <Squirm> kulelu88: $10
[09:34] <Squirm> superfly: Yeah - Was there last night
[09:56] <FusionSparc> Hey guys, question : I'm in the process of setting up a file server using Ubuntu  16.04 desktop... What is the difference between sambsa shares and publics folders? 
[10:00] <paddatrapper> FusionSparc: samba shares you can manage more granually and optionally provide access for Windows machines
[10:01] <kulelu88> hey chesedo . I will be back later to chat. thanks so much again.
[10:04] <Kilos> ill shout when he answers magespawn 
[10:04] <Kilos> hi there superfly 
[10:05] <Kilos> morning paddatrapper 
[10:05] <paddatrapper> Hey Kilos
[10:06] <Kilos> when he gets a break magespawn ill get him here
[10:07] <FusionSparc> Noob questions  but thought I'd ask... Thought as much, samba seems more secure as well. 
[10:09] <paddatrapper> Yeah. Pretty much if you are debating it, go Samba if you want permanent shares that can be accessed from a variety of OS's 
[10:17] <magespawn> ty Kilos 
[10:18] <magespawn> Kilos: not to much of a stress just looking for the software for the computer side
[10:21] <magespawn> a friend is looking to host thier pastel database online to allow remote work, any suggestions for a hosting company that could do this?
[11:29] <theblazehen> magespawn: So basically a windows remote desktop?
[11:53] <anton_may> magespawn: I would rather go to Sage One Accounting. It's an online accounting portal instead putting the pastel db online.
[12:42] <magespawn> anton_may: that is what i thought would be best, but maybe the cost is too much 
[12:43] <Kilos> hi bushtech 
[12:43] <magespawn> theblazehen: preferably something that would allow the pastel on the computer to remotely connect to the pastel database
[12:44] <Kilos> magespawn ian on his way i think
[12:44] <magespawn> thanks Kilos 
[12:45] <bushtech> Hi Kilos, others
[12:45] <magespawn> pastel uses the pervasive database engine with postgresql i think
[12:46] <Kilos> just helping him setup konverstion
[12:52] <Kilos> he is working on a newly installed kubuntu magespawn 
[12:52] <Kilos> so im not sure what all needs doing
[12:54] <magespawn> i am not sure either
[12:54] <Kilos> lol
[12:54] <Kilos> no man
[12:55] <Kilos> he needs to install konversation etc etc
[12:55] <Kilos> has done update/upgrade etc
[13:00] <Kilos> and it all happened over about a week, bit here and bit there
[13:00] <anton_may> magespawn: well you need to compare the costs of Sage vs. devils box being hacked
[13:01] <magespawn> anton_may: that was my advice too, be carefulof security
[13:01] <superfly> magespawn: our company uses Xero
[13:01] <anton_may> yip, I would rather then look at a VPN solution then
[13:02] <superfly> magespawn: Pastel doesn't use PostgreSQL
[13:02] <superfly> they do have some server solution thing, but that's probably way more than the elcheapo local version
[13:06] <gremble> Good afternoon
[13:10] <paddatrapper> 60% packet loss at every point between me and Google.... 
[13:10] <Kilos> ouch
[13:11] <anton_may> ouch isp?
[13:11] <paddatrapper> Telkom
[13:12] <inetpro> paddatrapper: move your desk :-)
[13:12] <paddatrapper> Though I'm getting 68% loss to my router (wifi).... Need to upgrade it 
[13:13] <theblazehen> paddatrapper: Got a traceroute?
[13:13] <theblazehen> Nevermind
[13:13] <paddatrapper> theblazehen: running mtr 
[13:13] <theblazehen> Also, up your laptops tx power
[13:13] <theblazehen> 1 sec
[13:13] <anton_may> well if you get a +60% drop to your router it does say something
[13:14] <paddatrapper> theblazehen: how would I do that? 
[13:14] <theblazehen> paddatrapper: man iwconfig
[13:14] <theblazehen> http://kmkeen.com/linux-wifi/
[13:15] <paddatrapper> Also suspect it has something to do with my wifi driver. Had the same issue under arch, but was fixed in an update that I suspect isn't in 14.04
[13:15] <theblazehen> Go back to arch ;)
[13:17] <paddatrapper> Haha. Can't set TX power, not supported 
[13:18] <theblazehen> paddatrapper: What router?
[13:18] <Kilos> hey theblazehen i just got him onto kde
[13:18] <theblazehen> A netgear I hope?
[13:18] <theblazehen> Kilos: nice
[13:19] <paddatrapper> theblazehen: D-Link (because I hate life lol)
[13:19] <theblazehen> paddatrapper: Oh :( You can get root on netgears
[13:20] <paddatrapper> Wired connection is much better, but still a bit shaky
[13:20] <theblazehen> Use a netgear as my wifi access point
[13:20] <theblazehen> But a proper pc for the router
[13:21] <paddatrapper> I want to run DD-WRT/Open-WRT (can't remember which is the more active one off hand) and whatever I upgrade to
[13:22] <Kilos> magespawn lost ian now again after modem died, maybe he gone working again
[13:22] <theblazehen> OpenWRT doesn't support adsl
[13:22] <paddatrapper> theblazehen: Current priority is a working home server. Then I'll work on internet facing side. I've got the wifi and network nice now (ignoring this issue), so one step at a time as I get the money
[13:22] <theblazehen> Don't think ddwrt either
[13:22] <theblazehen> and ddwrt isn't open source
[13:22] <theblazehen> paddatrapper: Plans for the server? :)
[13:23] <paddatrapper> Mainly media server and NAS. DNS as well 
[13:23]  * theblazehen had one with 20TB storage and 32 GB ram
[13:23]  * paddatrapper is very jealous
[13:23]  * theblazehen needs to reinstall it after the raid died
[13:24] <theblazehen> Bought 4x 5TB seagate drives in a raid 5
[13:24] <theblazehen> 2 disks failed in the first week
[13:25] <paddatrapper> The entirety of my current "NAS" is a 2TB USB segate shared from one of the PCs and no backup set up... Got no money for anything else
[13:25] <paddatrapper> ouch!
[13:25] <chesedo> Maaz tell kulelu88 Here is the (long) summary of what changed and why (and some general tips) - https://hackmd.io/s/r1_L_G7z
[13:25] <Maaz> chesedo: Got it, I'll tell kulelu88 on freenode
[13:54] <anton_may> ok peeps have a good w/e i'm out of here
[13:55] <gremble> CHeers anton_may 
[13:59] <anton_may> Anonymous just tweeted - Dear #SouthAfrica we have still not forgotten #MarikanaMiners #ExpectUs #SAP was only the start #Anonymous - https://twitter.com/DomainerAnon/status/731120897474633728
[14:05] <magespawn> home time chat later
[14:47] <Kilos> hi Wolfeyes 
[14:53] <Wolfeyes> hey Kilos
[14:53] <Wolfeyes> good day everyone
[15:01] <Squirm> Home time
[15:01] <Squirm> Woop
[15:01] <Squirm> Hi Wolfeyes
[15:01] <Squirm> Bye Wolfeyes
[15:01] <Kilos> cheersa Squirm 
[15:01] <Squirm> and Kilos
[15:01] <Kilos> fel free to visit again
[15:01] <Kilos> feel
[15:01] <Kilos> hehe
[15:01] <Squirm> Haha
[15:01] <Squirm> Yeah - I should pop by more often
[15:01] <Squirm> Just lack of time
[15:01] <Squirm> and distration
[15:02] <Kilos> yay
[15:02] <Squirm> distraction
[15:06] <kulelu88> that's an amazing write up chesedo . I can see you're already a solid software engineer with code and documentation :D
[15:06] <Wolfeyes> lol @ Squirm
[15:07] <Wolfeyes> where where where kulelu88, may I see too lol
[15:07] <kulelu88> Wolfeyes: https://hackmd.io/s/r1_L_G7z
[15:13] <kulelu88> superfly: say I have a complete alpha release of a piece of code I am happy with and I don't want to change it but keep improving the code, do I now "git" this code? 
[15:14] <Wolfeyes> ty
[15:28] <chesedo> lol ty kulelu88
[15:39] <Kilos> ai!
[16:07] <paddatrapper> Well after about a week, I can say without a doubt that tlp has given me 30 minutes to an hour more battery life 
[16:25] <theblazehen> kulelu88: yeag
[16:25] <theblazehen> Yeah
[16:25] <gremble> kulelu88, You gitted your code yet? 
[16:27] <superfly> kulelu88: yes, put it into version control. I would start when I start writing code, not later. The sooner the better. 
[16:29] <superfly> If you want to go with git, I recommend GitLab over Github. 
[16:29] <superfly> It is free as in freedom as well as free as in beer. 
[16:30] <superfly> You can also look at Bitbucket for both git and Mercurial 
[16:31] <superfly> (they've been around longer than Github and I trust them more) 
[16:36] <kulelu88> superfly: this code is open source, so it can stay on facebook for coders aka Github :P
[16:36] <kulelu88> I really wanted to try that other VCS you mentioned superfly . the simpler one 
[16:36] <superfly> kulelu88: I'm taking about open source code 
[16:37] <kulelu88> yo gremble , you no longer the 'laaitie' here. lots of young ones lurking here :D
[16:37] <superfly> kulelu88: bazaar? 
[16:37] <kulelu88> yeah, bazaar, thats it
[16:37] <superfly> Ah
[16:38] <superfly> Launchpad.net is the only bzr hosting I know of 
[16:38] <superfly> Git can be simple if there's only one committer
[16:39] <superfly> And because Linus likes to email for patches around, apparently everyone must use git
[16:39] <superfly> s/for/git/
[16:39] <kulelu88> the linus element is strong in why git got chosen over the others
[16:40] <kulelu88> probably why Go and Rust will win over Crystal and Nim
[16:41] <superfly> I got started with bzr long before git and hg were popular. In fact, at the time, bzr was probably the most popular 
[16:41] <superfly> kulelu88: actually, BitKeeper was recently open sourced 
[16:42] <kulelu88> you making it sound like you were there when C version 0.01 was launched superfly :D
[16:42] <superfly> kulelu88: almost :-P
[16:42] <kulelu88> Gogs is really interesting. apparently it can be run on a rPI
[16:43] <superfly> kulelu88: I've used Subversion and CVS. tell any older dev that and they'll probably shudder 
[16:44] <kulelu88> time flies though. I've been using git for like 3/4 years on/off
[16:45] <Kilos> LP gives you karma if you work there
[16:45] <Kilos> if you are a member of a loco that is
[16:54] <theblazehen> +1 for gogs in comparison to gitlab
[16:59] <Kilos> i go eat
[17:16] <superfly> Ah yes, now I remember, the Github clone hosted on Github. How ironic. 
[17:18] <superfly> Even GitLab is hosted on GitLab 
[17:24] <superfly> Maaz: ur
[17:24] <Maaz> superfly: Ur is the ancient Sumerian city that dominated Mesopotamia from 6000 BC to 600 BC.  If you mean "you are" or "your", just say so.
[17:42] <magespawn> good evening
[17:46] <Kilos> hi magespawn 
[17:46] <Kilos> lol ur
[17:47] <Kilos> inetpro find it please
[17:47] <Kilos> i forgot the switch for youtube-dl to get sound only
[17:48] <Kilos> anyone else is welcome to jump in as well
[17:49] <Kilos> dont let me waste data trying to find it
[17:49] <Kilos> maybe -c
[17:49] <magespawn> not to sure what you are looking for Kilos 
[17:50] <Kilos> hmm...
[17:50] <Kilos> you download only the song magespawn not the vido
[17:50] <Kilos> i told pro
[17:50] <paddatrapper> -X I think
[17:50] <Kilos> and he is good at finding things
[17:50] <magespawn> using what though? wget?
[17:51] <Kilos> hmm...
[17:51] <Kilos> youtube-dl
[17:51] <inetpro> Kilos: man youtube-dl
[17:51] <Kilos> so difficult using a laptop with only one drive
[17:51] <magespawn> never heard of it
[17:51] <paddatrapper> youtubedl -X 'URL'
[17:52] <Kilos> lol inetpro you know i battle with man
[17:52] <Kilos> but ill look
[17:52] <paddatrapper> will do it, but it is post-processing so will download both and then extract the audio
[17:52] <Kilos> was a -c or -a
[17:52] <Kilos> X doesnt look right
[17:53] <paddatrapper> Kilos: -c means continue/resume
[17:53] <Kilos> on youtube -dl as well?
[17:53] <Kilos> i use -c on wget
[17:54] <paddatrapper> -a provides a input file of URLS
[17:54] <paddatrapper> I'm looking at youtube-dl docs
[17:54] <Kilos> something with 140 as well
[17:54] <paddatrapper> https://github.com/rg3/youtube-dl has the docs I'm looking at
[17:54] <inetpro> -F, --list-formats
[17:54] <inetpro>               List all available formats of requested videos
[17:54] <Kilos> youtube-dl -? 140 link
[17:55] <inetpro> paddatrapper: man youtube-dl
[17:56] <paddatrapper> Not on a Linux box at the moment. Internet is the best I can do
[17:58] <Kilos> might be -x paddatrapper 
[17:58] <Kilos> so much reading
[17:58] <Kilos> sigh
[17:58] <paddatrapper> -x, --extract-audio              Convert video files to audio-only files
[17:58] <Kilos> thats why i told pro, he members or finds thing easy
[17:59] <Kilos> that must be it
[17:59] <Kilos> your memory is good
[17:59] <Kilos> pros big prob is he likes promoting man pages
[17:59] <paddatrapper> I just can google quickly :)
[18:00] <Kilos> haha
[18:00] <theblazehen> Kilos: Man pages are great :)
[18:00] <paddatrapper> Haha. They are useful, but not when I don't have access to them
[18:00] <Kilos> eeeeeek
[18:00] <theblazehen> paddatrapper: I hate it when the man command isn't available :(
[18:00] <inetpro> Kilos: -F, --list-formats
[18:00] <Kilos> only useful thing i ever found and understood in man pages was -c for wget
[18:00] <magespawn> paddatrapper: it is cross platform so you could install it there if youwanted
[18:01] <inetpro> once you know the formats you select the format to download with -f 
[18:01] <magespawn> then it might have some version of hel[
[18:01]  * Kilos hates trying to figure anythong out on man pages
[18:01] <magespawn> help
[18:01] <paddatrapper> magespawn: I'm not usually on Windows, trying to figure out Linux commands
[18:02] <inetpro> ai!
[18:02]  * magespawn thinks that is Kilos' problem
[18:02] <Kilos> what magespawn 
[18:02] <Kilos> thats why when i find something that works i tell you guys
[18:03] <Kilos> so you can remember it for me
[18:03] <Kilos> not tell me to sukkel in man bla bla
[18:05] <inetpro> Kilos: youtube-dl -F https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KCYEDj69IRg
[18:06] <inetpro> then, select the format of your choice, e.g., youtube-dl -f 140 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KCYEDj69IRg
[18:06] <inetpro> simple stuff man
[18:06] <inetpro> it's all in the man pages
[18:06] <Kilos> yay ty inetpro so it was -f 140
[18:07] <Kilos> might try 160
[18:07] <Kilos> trying to understand the diffs
[18:07] <inetpro> Kilos: it's not necessarily always 140
[18:07] <inetpro> you need to look at the output of -F
[18:07] <Kilos> i am atm
[18:07] <Kilos> but so much there
[18:08] <inetpro> pick and choose
[18:08] <Kilos> thats like telling someone to take your pick in a room full of shovels
[18:09] <Kilos> i remember te 140 always worked ok
[18:09] <Kilos> not sure if 160 or others are better quality or what
[18:10] <inetpro> remember, some of it is video only, if I understand that correctly, that means no sound
[18:10] <Kilos> lol
[18:11] <magespawn> so could end up with a sound file with nothing in it the length of the video
[18:11] <Kilos> 140 has always worked ok so far , my ears arent that picky anymore
[18:11] <magespawn> would be interesting if that happened
[18:12] <Kilos> but my brat has a music ear so dont want the worst quality
[18:14] <Kilos> thank you for the help guys
[18:17] <Kilos> look at this youtube-dl -f 160 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KCYEDj69IRg
[18:17] <Kilos> dunno where that came from was in the download
[18:18] <Kilos> put wrong link
[18:20] <inetpro> Kilos: tie a knot in your handkerchief
[18:20] <Kilos> lol
[18:20] <Kilos> 160mbrings vid and no audio
[18:20] <Kilos> sigh
[18:22] <inetpro> put a rubber band on your wrist to remember that 
[18:22] <Kilos> 140 is the one to use
[18:23] <magespawn> has anyone seen this https://is.gd/WNbf14
[18:23] <Kilos> no man its all the switch things all over the place that mix me up
[18:25] <inetpro> magespawn: never seen it
[18:28] <Kilos> paddatrapper its -f 140
[18:28] <Kilos> remeber that
[18:29] <Kilos> pretty please
[18:29] <paddatrapper> Kilos: I'll try
[18:29] <Kilos> lol
[18:38] <magespawn> inetpro: just thought it might be interesting to those who use nginx
[18:56] <Kilos> bushtech_ hoekom so still
[18:56] <Kilos> ek slaap amper
[18:57] <bushtech_> weet niks van die goed waaroor julle praat nie
[18:57] <Kilos> ek ook nie
[18:57] <bushtech_> stil bek is 'n heel bek
[18:57] <Kilos> lol
[18:58] <Kilos> jy moet darem groet
[18:58] <Kilos> anders dink ek jy is miskien siek en kannie vra vir hulp nie
[18:58] <bushtech_> sit en wonder oor die forecast op my weerstasie
[18:59] <Kilos> ai! 20 more hier
[18:59] <bushtech_> die deng seg ons gaan more 30mm reen kry
[18:59] <Kilos> sjoe dis goed
[18:59] <Kilos> ek hoop ons kry ook reen
[18:59] <Kilos> maar dan gaan dit eers koud word
[18:59] <bushtech_> jy is nie baie ver van my af nie
[19:00] <bushtech_> wel sover lyk die winter meer na lente
[19:00] <Kilos> is dit net so drooog by julle
[19:01] <Kilos> tot die vissies in die spruit spoeg stof uit hier
[19:01] <bushtech_> yep maar die laat reen het gehelp
[19:02] <theblazehen> eish
[19:02] <theblazehen> I wish there was more time..
[19:02] <Kilos> hahaha
[19:02] <bushtech_> maar Vaalkopdam is 60% en somer reen nog ver
[19:03] <Kilos> tell everyone how you feel about time in 40 years from now
[19:03] <bushtech_> heh heh yes
[19:03] <Kilos> ja dinge lyk maar sleg
[19:03] <theblazehen> This week flew past..
[19:04] <Kilos> every years they go faster
[19:04] <theblazehen> Feels like just yesterday was sunday
[19:04]  * theblazehen has 20+ hours of work to do over the weekend..
[19:04] <Kilos> sjoe
[19:04]  * theblazehen is gonna get started
[19:04] <bushtech_> as long as you get paid for it
[19:04] <theblazehen> bushtech_: Very well :)
[19:05] <Kilos> then make the most of your time
[19:05] <bushtech_> ok then the o/t never worried me
[19:05] <theblazehen> Yeah. Would be nice if I had *some* free time though.. Although I did get dinner with friends during the week
[19:06] <Kilos> lol
[19:06] <Kilos> look after your health as well
[19:06]  * theblazehen isn't happy with how little work I've been doing past few weeks though :( Only been getting around 14 hours done / weekend for past 2 months
[19:06] <bushtech_> stuff the free time if you can retire early
[19:06] <Kilos> not enough sleep aint good
[19:06] <theblazehen> Eh
[19:06] <theblazehen> Yeah, I love sleep.. :(
[19:07] <theblazehen> http://www.wikihow.com/Adopt-a-Polyphasic-Sleep-Schedule want to try this
[19:08] <theblazehen> Can't though
[19:08] <theblazehen> Will just stick with normal little sleep
[19:12] <paddatrapper> The problem is finding the time in the middle of the day
[19:13] <theblazehen> Exactly
[19:13] <theblazehen> Could work if you worked from home
[19:14] <Kilos> night all. sleep tight
[19:14] <Kilos> see you tomorrow
[19:39] <magespawn> theblazehen: i seem to find the time for that every now and then
[19:39] <theblazehen> magespawn: Normal sleep or the mid day slee[?
[19:40] <theblazehen> It's so annoying..
[19:40] <theblazehen> Maybe I should have a bar one
[19:41] <magespawn> the miday, so biphasic according to tthat article
[19:43] <magespawn> the only problem with some of those more exterem patterns is having to maintain a normal work pattern/hours
[19:43] <magespawn> extreme
[19:46] <magespawn> having said that i am off to bed, good night all
[21:01] <chesedo> hi deegee