[00:02] <zykotick9> lerner: bluemax i believe...
[00:02] <Mason963> am I correct to assume that some packages in ubuntu are exactly the same as packaged in debian?
[00:03] <lerner> oooh yeahhhhhhhhhh!!! zykotick9
[00:07] <Darkelfjuggalo> Ok i have the displays set to Mirror, but  the TV now went black and says 'Unsupported Video Signal'
[00:07] <dbz2k> does someone know when ubuntu is going to update chromium to v50
[00:08] <aquinnjr> howdy all :)
[00:09] <xibalba> anyone still running 12lts?
[00:09] <nacc> Mason963: yes, they are called "sync"s
[00:09] <aquinnjr> sorry, 14.04lts here
[00:10] <Mason963> nacc: how do I check if a package, e.g. liballegro4-dev is a "sync" ?
[00:11] <nacc> Mason963: the versioning should tell you, if there is no 'ubuntu' in it, it's probably Debian; you should also be able to tell by the listed maintainer
[00:11] <nacc> Mason963: that one would appear to be a sync
[00:11] <Mason963> nacc: from apt-cache xx ?
[00:11] <Bashing-om> !info chromium-browser
[00:12] <nacc> Mason963: yeah, although sync's change the mainatiner, so nm, it's based upon the version string
[00:12] <Mason963> nacc: so what command-line do you use to show that?
[00:13] <OerHeks>  liballegro4-dev https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/allegro4.4
[00:13] <OerHeks> maintainer debian games group
[00:14] <nacc> Mason963: `apt-cache show <pkgname>` or showpkg, i think will show you the version number
[00:14] <nacc> Mason963: if you want to look across all versions of ubuntu, use `rmadison`
[00:14] <Mason963> OerHeks: isn't launchpad for PPAs?
[00:15] <Mason963> http://packages.ubuntu.com/trusty/liballegro4-dev
[00:15] <nacc> Mason963: launchpad is a generic tooling, where all of ubuntu is tracked, tehcnically
[00:15] <nacc> Mason963: it also hosts PPAs, but that's a small part of what launchpad is
[00:15] <Mason963> so what's packages.ubuntu.com for?
[00:16] <Darkelfjuggalo> Now, for some reason when I connect the HDMI Cable, my Computer Monitor goes blank, and I cannot get a display from my TV.
[00:16] <nacc> Mason963: to search for packages
[00:17] <Mason963> nacc: OK so my actual issue is that liballegro4-dev and liballegro5-dev are marked as exclusive (each Conflicts with the other) but in fact, they should co-exist
[00:17] <Mason963> I went to the #debian channel, and they basically told me to fuck off
[00:17] <Mason963> but it seems this is indeed a debian issue?
[00:18] <OerHeks> apt-cache policy <packagename> # if it says universe, it is community/upstream without influence
[00:18] <dbz2k> one thing since Chromium is in universe does it keep updated throughout the lts?
[00:19] <dbz2k> will I keep updates to 50,51,21 etc..
[00:19] <dbz2k> getting
[00:19] <OerHeks> chromium-broswer is a bit behind, i see
[00:20] <Mason963> OerHeks: "community/upstream without influence" means "from debian" right?
[00:20] <OerHeks> in this case, yes.
[00:20] <nacc> universe packages can have ubuntu deltas
[00:21] <OerHeks> so bug bo to them, but asking help in debian is most of the times impossible, if you say you run ubuntu
[00:21] <OerHeks> c/bo/go
[00:21] <dbz2k> OerHeks, I thought chromium would be supported by canonical on the lts at least
[00:22] <nacc> Mason963: the debian/control file says they conflict
[00:22] <dbz2k> since it a browser and gets security issue more than other program
[00:22] <nacc> Mason963: so the *source* says they are not coinstallable
[00:22] <nacc> Mason963: who told you otherwise?
[00:22] <Mason963> nacc: upstream!
[00:22] <nacc> Mason963: well, tbc, the debian source
[00:22] <Mason963> nacc: I talked to the allegro devs
[00:22] <Mason963> and they said of course you can install both libs
[00:23] <Mason963> nacc: what's the name of the control file? how do I send a patch for it?
[00:24] <nacc> Mason963: the libs don't conflict
[00:24] <nacc> only the -dev packages do
[00:25] <nacc> Mason963: debian/control in the source package
[00:25] <Mason963> nacc: someone in #allegro diffed the two file lists, and they share nothing in common
[00:25] <nacc> Mason963: it's been that way since 2012
[00:25] <nacc> Mason963: it's a debian bug, if it is actually a bug, as they decided to package it this way
[00:25] <hehnope> how to verify journald.conf file syntax?
[00:25] <Mason963> nacc: maybe no one has cared so far?
[00:26] <hehnope> like `apache2ctl -t` does for apache
[00:26] <Mason963> nacc: OK someone from #allegro opened a bug in debian
[00:26] <Mason963> https://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=824157
[00:26] <nacc> Mason963: most likely, but it's also expliclty mentioned in the changelog as intentional
[00:27] <Mir_Poweredge> well that is annoying
[00:27] <Mason963> nacc: I'm not as fluent as you to have access to all these metadata
[00:27] <Mir_Poweredge> i choose "MANUALY SELECT PACKAGES" and the server installer never loads up the page to manualy install packages :(
[00:28] <Mason963> https://packages.debian.org/sid/liballegro5-dev  looking for the changelog
[00:28] <Mason963> and the control file
[00:28] <nacc> Mason963: ok, once it gets fixed in Debian, it will get fixed in yakkety as they are in sync; and you can file a bug for xenial, if you want, but it will need to satisfy the sru guidelines
[00:28] <nacc> Mason963: you want to start here: https://tracker.debian.org/pkg/allegro5
[00:28] <nacc> usually
[00:28] <nacc> or the qa site
[00:28] <phelix> Could anyone help me figure out why I keep getting The following packages have unmet dependencies: The following packages have unmet dependencies:
[00:28] <nacc> as you need to be on the source package, not hte binary
[00:28] <Mason963> nacc: which changelog for which of the two package mentions intentional, oh will check the tracker
[00:28] <phelix> unable to correct problems, you have held broken packages
[00:29] <nacc> Mason963: https://tracker.debian.org/media/packages/a/allegro5/changelog-2%3A5.2.0-1
[00:30] <Mason963> nacc: thanks for putting up with my slowness
[00:30] <Mason963> hehe they write make something canonical, and i thought they were talking about ubuntu
[00:30] <nacc> Mason963: https://tracker.debian.org/media/packages/a/allegro4.4/changelog-2%3A4.4.2-8
[00:31] <nacc> seach for allegro5 in that one
[00:31] <nacc> Mason963: as well, the icons in the new tracker giveyou direct access to the control file, e.g: https://tracker.debian.org/media/packages/a/allegro4.4/control-2%3A4.4.2-8
[00:33] <Mason963> nacc: the debian tracker even points to ubuntu bug entries:
[00:33] <Mason963> https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/allegro5/+bug/1577000
[00:34] <Mason963> but I don't see icons pointing to the control file :-(
[00:34] <Mason963> now I do, the little box
[00:35] <Mir_Poweredge> seems the server install media ignores the user
[00:35] <Mir_Poweredge> ****ing **** :(
[00:35] <nacc> Mason963: yes, the debian and ubuntu stuff is linked to some degree
[00:35] <nacc> Mason963: note to get changelogs, you can also use `apt-get changelog` iirc
[00:36] <nacc> Mir_Poweredge: what do you mean?
[00:36] <Mason963> nacc: OK I guess the question now is getting ahold of the guys who said that there is a conflict, despite what the upstream devs say
[00:36] <nacc> phelix: it would be better to pastebin the full command you are running and the full output
[00:36] <nacc> Mason963: nah, you've file the debian bug
[00:37] <nacc> that's all you should need to do at this point
[00:39] <nacc> Mason963: i mean that change was made 4 years ago :)
[00:40] <Mason963> nacc: the problem is in the bug reporting process, I've seen one user complain on stack overflow in 2014
[00:40] <Mason963> and this other guy complain in the ubuntu bug tracker
[00:40] <Mason963> so I'm not the first to lament the situation
[00:42] <nacc> Mason963: since the package is in universe, it's going to take someone in the community who cares about it to supply a patch, but it seems like ubuntu has been in-sync with debian for some time, so there's probably not much ubuntu involvement (my guess)
[00:42] <nacc> Mason963: so it should have been filed with debian from the get-go
[00:42] <wgwz> how can i get information about my gphx card driver? (terminal)
[00:42] <nacc> stack overflow is not a bug report :)
[00:42] <nacc> Mason963: if you have the time, you could link the ubuntu bug to the debian bug
[00:43] <nacc> they will both get closed when soemone sends a debdiff and it gets fixed
[00:43] <Mason963> nacc: do I need an account?
[00:43] <nacc> Mason963: yeah
[00:43] <Mason963> arg
[00:43] <nacc> and you might not be able to anyways, depending on the bug permissions
[00:43] <nacc> but you should be able to add a comment
[00:44] <Dorf> just installed 16 and my apache PHP went to crap.  is there a fix?
[00:44] <Dorf> php -v returns 5.6, but php files render as text
[00:44] <nacc> Dorf: 16.04 (16 is not a version) has moved to PHP7.0, is that what you mean?)
[00:45] <nacc> Dorf: fresh install or upgrade?
[00:45] <nacc> Dorf: there is no php5 in 16.04
[00:45] <Dorf> i realize 16.04
[00:45] <Dorf> upgrade
[00:45] <nacc> Dorf: from?
[00:45] <Dorf> 15
[00:45] <nacc> Dorf: 15.10?
[00:45] <Dorf> yes
[00:46] <nacc> Dorf: did the upgrade succeed?
[00:46] <Dorf> yes
[00:46] <Mason963> nacc: I'm using trusty, I suppose changes would not flow automatically to that branch?
[00:46] <wgwz> not sure if it got buried, but i'm looking for a way to find out some info about my gphx card driver. does anyone know where i can find what drivers my system is using?
[00:46] <nacc> Mason963: anything other than the current development release (yakkety) needs to follow SRU
[00:46] <Mason963> that sounds like bike-shedding power 10
[00:47] <nacc> Mason963: ?
[00:47] <Dorf> i need 5.6
[00:47] <nacc> Dorf: not available in 16.04
[00:47] <nacc> Dorf: at least not officially
[00:47] <Dorf> why not?
[00:47] <Mason963> nacc: I mean it sounds like a complex process, where forms must be filled etc, no ?
[00:47] <nacc> Dorf: you can use ondrej's PPA, if you want, but then you're using a PPA, etc
[00:47] <nacc> Mason963: i mean, you should update an appropriate bug indicating it's required
[00:47] <nacc> Mason963: there is some overhead
[00:47] <nacc> but if you care enough, you do it :)
[00:47] <iulian> wgwz, http://askubuntu.com/questions/23238/how-can-i-find-what-video-driver-is-in-use-on-my-system
[00:48] <nacc> Dorf: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/XenialXerus/ReleaseNotes, search for PHP7.0
[00:48] <nacc> Dorf: if you need PHP5, stay on Trusty
[00:48] <nacc> Dorf: or run it in a container/VM
[00:48] <Dorf> crap
[00:49] <nacc> Dorf: or move to PHP7.0 :)
[00:49] <nacc> Dorf: my guess is, though, that php5 is being held because it was installed in 15.10, so you need to manually install 'php', which will remove php5 (iirc)
[00:49] <Dorf> i am a drupal developer and use drupal 7 primarily
[00:50] <nacc> Dorf: has drupal7 finished php7 compat?
[00:50] <Dorf> not as far as i know
[00:50] <nacc> Dorf: i'm waiting on that to get drupal7 back into xenial
[00:50] <Dorf> it still seems to be an open issue
[00:50] <nacc> Dorf: ok -- i'm the developer that did the php7.0 migration
[00:50] <nacc> Dorf: yeah, I hadn't seen any updates in some time, but there ight have been some debian activity
[00:50] <Bashing-om> wgwz: ' LIBGL_DEBUG=verbose glxinfo ' for extensive info .
[00:51] <CC112> Hello
[00:52] <CC112> This is an Open to all questions Ubuntu correct?
[00:52] <nacc> Dorf: actually debian's drupal7 is marked as having php7 support
[00:53] <nacc> Dorf: so i'll update the ubuntu package tmrw
[00:53] <CC112> I seen a Ubuntu Newb chatroom but there was only 2 people in there an completely silent
[00:53] <nacc> CC112: support questions, yes
[00:54] <CC112> Well nothing complicated actually - I am curious if there is a site dedicated to host peoples customized images of ubuntu to download?
[00:54] <EldonMcGuinness> customized images?
[00:55] <nacc> CC112: what kind of images?
[00:55] <OerHeks> drupal 8 will have php7 support ?
[00:55] <CC112> I’m still pretty new to Linux and I’m looking for an image that someone put together that has a lot of the stuff already loaded into it
[00:55] <nacc> OerHeks: yes, it already does
[00:55] <nacc> OerHeks: but not packaged for debian or ubuntu y et
[00:56] <EldonMcGuinness> CC112: Not really sure if that exists, but why not just pull the default image and install what you need?
[00:56] <nacc> CC112: that's really vague. You mean a specific image someone asked you to use?
[00:56] <CC112> for instance - Kali - Previously known as Backtrack5; I found an image of that with a bunch of stuff already loaded primarly for security testing or hacking depending on the user. Anyways that had a lot of user interfaces I liked and thought there must be other images out there that other people customized for others to download
[00:56] <Dorf> nacc: according to php -v i still have 5.6 installed
[00:57] <Dorf> am i missing something?
[00:57] <OerHeks> CC112, pentesting, not supported here, only the official ubuntu iso's
[00:57] <OerHeks> !kali
[00:57] <nacc> Dorf: what does `apt-cache policy php` say, and `apt-cache policy php5` ?
[00:57] <nacc> Dorf: pastebin those
[00:57] <EldonMcGuinness> CC112: That sounds more like a livecd setup no?
[00:57] <Dorf> aside from being unable to run php files as php files
[00:57] <CC112> I was just using that as an example…I’m not asking about that specifically..
[00:57] <nacc> CC112: you mean variants of Ubuntu?
[00:57] <nacc> CC112: those aren't typically called "images"
[00:57] <vicente-2> Ccc 12,  you could use a digital ocean droplet 5$/month to host the image. A vps from them comes with a terabyte of transfer
[00:58] <OerHeks> oh remastering
[00:58] <OerHeks> !remaster
[00:58] <CC112> but that had a Launcher I think it was that had awsome toolbars and file manager installed that I would like to run on a regular ubuntu setup
[00:58] <OerHeks> or !preseed file
[00:58] <wgwz> thanks Bashing-om and iulian
[00:59] <nacc> CC112: that's not really a support question -- i htink you're asking what are the pre-customized versions/variants of Ubuntu and where to get them?
[00:59] <Solarbaby> Please help me.  I am using init.d and I see this now that I'm using Ubuntu 16.04 Loaded: loaded (/etc/init.d/nzbdrone; bad; vendor preset: enabled)
[00:59] <Solarbaby> bad; vendor
[00:59] <Dorf> http://pastie.org/10834936 nacc
[00:59] <CC112> well yea I guess…is there a community that shares their own customized versions of linux?
[00:59] <Bashing-om> wgwz: happy to help .. good 'nuf ?
[00:59] <Dorf> included php -v
[00:59] <Solarbaby> any idea how I can fix that bad vendor?
[01:00] <nacc> Dorf: ok one sec
[01:00] <bazhang> CC112, ##linux
[01:00] <nacc> CC112: http://releases.ubuntu.com/ has the official variants
[01:00] <CC112> Some people like to customize their own version of Ubuntu with interfaces, tools, scripts and so on and then roll it back into an image to share with others
[01:01] <nacc> CC112: you're speaking in *really* general generalities
[01:01] <nacc> CC112: it would be easier to help if you told us what you actually wanted
[01:01] <CC112> like Windows Black, or Windows Glass - They’re just Windows XP but with specific themes, apps and gui’s setup
[01:01] <OerHeks> CC112, those guys are named mint and such
[01:02] <nacc> Dorf: right, you can see there that technically, you have no php installed :)
[01:02] <nacc> Dorf: this is on of those things you hit due to the jump in releases
[01:02] <Dorf> so i have 5.6.11 for CLI, but nothing for apache?
[01:02] <vicente-2> CC112 try distrowatch website but your question is better suited for ##linux
[01:02] <tgm4883> nacc: flavors, not variants
[01:02] <Dorf> interesting
[01:02] <nacc> tgm4883: thanks, i forgot the term :)
[01:02] <CC112> yea..I know I’m sorry…I’ve been trying to figure out what these GUI are that are installed in this Kali that I have so I can install on my version of ubuntu but still being new it’s not as easy as just finding the interface I like and clicking on an “about” button to find out the name of it
[01:03] <wgwz> Bashing-om: Not sure, yet. Debugging a different problem. Somehow i screwed up my mint install. I think it was either an upgrade to an arch system on an hd in the same box. OR the fact that i was trying to use some different graphics drivers.
[01:03] <nacc> Dorf: right, you have remnants of 15.10 basically, because 'php5' did exist in 15.10 and doesn't exist (nor was it replaced) in 16.04, so you would need to install the 'php' package
[01:04] <OerHeks> kali .. gui.. you mean that black terminal?
[01:04] <nacc> Dorf: i think that will remove php5 automatically as php7.0 conflicts with it, i think
[01:04] <CC112> Well the toolbar that kali uses and the File Manager it uses… I like both of them
[01:05] <tgm4883> CC112: maybe you should ask kali
[01:05] <CC112> yea I did.. lol :)
[01:05] <nacc> Dorf: so although the 'upgrade' succeeded, you have held uninstallable packages (this is normal when they are removed from the archive on upgrade, I think). There is a way to sync your installation with the new version, or at least find all deprecated pacakges -- let me see if i can find it
[01:05] <CC112> Dolphin is a FIle Manger I can load into Ubuntu correct??
[01:06] <Bashing-om> wgwz: Mint is not supported here . If ya want to know what is going on in the X layer (GUI) .. the file to check in 'buntu is /var/log/Xorg.0.log .
[01:06] <OerHeks> what DM > dpkg -l | awk '$2 ~ /dm$/'
[01:06] <Dorf> alright.  so i did `apt install php` and restarted apache
[01:06] <nacc> Dorf: something like: http://unix.stackexchange.com/questions/29627/how-do-i-find-installed-packages-that-have-no-install-candidate
[01:06] <Dorf> is there anything else i need to do?  i'm still not running php scripts
[01:07] <nacc> Dorf: you might also need to install libapache2-mod-php
[01:07] <nacc> Dorf: if you need it to work from apache
[01:07] <Dorf> i do
[01:08] <nacc> Dorf: but note, in case it wasn't clear before, you can't currently install drupal7 in 16.04 (at least hte ubuntu packaged version)
[01:08] <nacc> Dorf: that is in the release notes
[01:08] <Abe_> I never had this problem before.. :/ my laptop sound doesn't work http://www0.xup.in/exec/ximg.php?fid=18510664
[01:09] <Dorf> yeah... that's going to be a pain.
[01:09] <Dorf> thank you for your help nacc
[01:09] <Dorf> nacc++
[01:10] <Abe_> does anybody know why it says dummy output now... I unplugged a bluetooth headset thats it.. even after a restart no sound
[01:10] <nacc> Dorf: i'll hopefully get it fixed tmrw or next week (i don't have upload rights so it'll need to get sponsored, but that should be easy as we tagged this one as needing to be fixed post-release)
[01:10] <nacc> Abe_: try `pulseaudio -k` and see if it comes back
[01:11] <Abe_> ok :o
[01:11] <nacc> Abe_: i've had pulse get into a weird state when sinks disappear 'unexpectedly' (it shouldn't be so sensitive and it's gotten better)
[01:11] <OerHeks> or open terminal: alsamixer # and F6 to select audio device
[01:11] <Dorf> for the time being i'll do my dev on my work laptop
[01:11] <CC112> Anyone have a good suggestion for a good IRC app for Linux? I’m running Colloquy via OSX right now
[01:11] <Dorf> CC112: i'm using hexchat.  good enough
[01:11] <Dorf> nacc: shame on me for not reading the release notes prior to upgrading
[01:12] <Abe_> Ok the dummy output is gone
[01:12] <Abe_> but still no sound :(
[01:13] <xibalba> any recommendations on a DNS server I can manage from a GUI for a little home lab. I dont feel like editing Bind zone files by hand, and I dont want to run a full windows box for one.
[01:13] <xibalba> And webmin is a last resort
[01:13] <flakrat> Anyone know of a way to find the --configure options used by Canonical to build a specific package (slapd is what I'm looking for to verify it supports Pass-through auth "must be built with the --enable-spasswd configuration option to enable pass-through"
[01:13] <Abe_> Analog Stereo Duplex!
[01:14] <flakrat> was hoping maybe dpkg could spit out the build configuration, but doesn't look like it :-)
[01:14] <CC112> Ok! There is what I am trying to find out - The dock application logo looks like a ying yang but Yellow and Black…anyone know the name?
[01:14] <Abe_> ok now I unluplug and plu my usb headset back in, it has to switch
[01:15] <Abe_> it doesn't
[01:16] <Dorf> nacc: please keep me posted on the d7 backport.  i'm around IRC quite a bit
[01:17] <thomasross> does the ubuntu-sdk-team ppa no longer provide qt 5 (not creator) packages?
[01:17] <thomasross> all of a sudden im unable to locate them
[01:17] <thomasross> E: Unable to locate package qtbase5-dev
[01:18] <Bashing-om> ~
[01:19] <Dorf> nacc: ppa worked.  thanks for the recommendation
[01:19] <xangua> thomasross: that would be a question for the repository maintainer
[01:25] <spectrum> hello
[01:28] <administrador> does anyone has a .deb package of kdesensors?
[01:29] <[7666]> I have a powerpc (G5) question for anyone familiar with such things
[01:30] <administrador> Ksensors, I mean.
[01:31] <[7666]> I cannot for the life of me get yaboot to boot any OS after installing 16.04, it just goes to an empty gray screen
[01:31] <[7666]> i've tried all sorts of yaboot.conf settings to no avail, rebuilding it with sudo ybin -v each time
[01:35] <MyCuriosity> guys, is it normal that when i run "sudo netstat -tupn", I'm getting some network connections that have no PID/Program name ? When i restart my computer should this list be empty ?
[01:35] <MyCuriosity> I'm kind of security concerned
[01:37] <nacc> flakrat: that's not really a generic thing, it's usually somehwere in the rules file
[01:37] <nacc> Dorf: np, will keep you posted
[01:38] <turntable> Is it possible to set the Name in a .desktop file to the current user, with something like $USER? ($USER will not work though)
[01:41] <EldonMcGuinness> turntable: Can you give a bit more information?
[01:41] <EldonMcGuinness> Are you generating this file via a script or something?
[01:42] <MyCuriosity> exit
[01:42] <turntable> EldonMcGuinness: No script. Take any .desktop file that is visible and to change the name to the current user.
[01:43] <Bustin> Hi there, I'm new to linux / ubuntu, have installed the latest Ubuntu, but the audio is very "pitchy" it is very poor, and does not have this effect on any other OS (mainly windows). What can I do to fix it?
[01:43] <Bustin> to add, I'm on a dell inspiron 7559
[01:44] <lunarmage> Bustin: it's probably because the volume cap in Ubuntu (or Linux in general) is higher than what Windows offers
[01:44] <lunarmage> have you tried playing with the volume?
[01:46] <EldonMcGuinness> turntable: is this to specify the location of the executable in the file?
[01:46] <Bustin> lunarmage: Audio works, I've played with the levels, but still to no avail. Audio is working don't get me wrong, but the quality is poor (it's not distorted, it's just all treble, literally no bass) Is there an equalizer or anything I can adjust to try to resolve this?
[01:46] <turntable> EldonMcGuinness: No, just to set the Name.
[01:46] <EldonMcGuinness> Ahh ok, yea I don't think those files do variables
[01:47] <lunarmage> Bustin: hmm, this is quite odd
[01:47] <Bustin> lunarmage: to add to that as well, I had to in sound preferences, allow volume to go over 100% (to reach levels that I could hear better).
[01:49] <lunarmage> Bustin: can you provide a more specific model number or the name of the audio card itself?
[01:49] <lunarmage> open a terminal and pastebin the output of this command: lspci | grep -i audio
[01:51] <Bustin> lunarmage: http://pastebin.com/VXhK9wha
[01:53] <lunarmage> Bustin: odd, I have that same chip on my laptop and it works flawlessly
[01:53] <lunarmage> it worked as-is OOTB
[01:54] <R0binh00d> lunarmage, & Bustin maybe an apt-get update and upgrade? or upgrade audio firmware via the drivers option?
[01:54] <Guest81994> howdy all
[01:54] <lunarmage> that's what I was thinking too R0binh00d
[01:55] <Bustin> lunarmage: nothing showing for apt-get update, but a few things for apt-get dist-upgrade
[01:55] <Bustin> should I go ahead with it, and see if it resolves my issue?
[01:56] <lunarmage> run `sudo apt-get upgrade`
[01:56] <lunarmage> you need sudo for admin rights
[01:56] <OerHeks> bustin, install clementine with build in equaliser to boost sound
[01:58] <R0binh00d> OerHeks, Can't you do that using Rhythmbox? I mean the equalizer thing?
[02:00] <HackerII> QasMixer and or gnome alsa mixer do well also
[02:00] <OerHeks> not sure there is a plugin for that
[02:00] <OerHeks> i find clementine handling large databases well
[02:01] <R0binh00d> OerHeks, large music databases, yes I agree with that
[02:01] <[7666]> i must have 20 tabs of yaboot stuff open jesus
[02:03] <a7i3n>  /q
[02:05] <Fisk22> Hi, I have a question. I want to upgrade to 16.04 LTS from 14.04 LTS
[02:05] <Hand_Solo> ive done it fisk
[02:05] <Fisk22> How would I do this? Doing the traditional upgrade command is pointing to 15.04 or w/e
[02:06] <Bashing-om> !ltsupgrade | Fisk22
[02:06] <Fisk22> Oh, it isn't released
[02:06] <Fisk22> Gee XD
[02:06] <Hand_Solo> sudo update-manager -d
[02:06] <[7666]> i guess it's been asked that often to where a bot is needed, lol
[02:07] <[7666]> Bashing-om, are you familiar with the powerpc flavor of ubuntu at all?
[02:07] <Fisk22> Well I deleted a bunch of unofficial PPAs
[02:07] <Fisk22> gotta restore em
[02:09] <Bashing-om> [7666]: sotty Not .. no no experience with a Mac .
[02:09] <[7666]> damn, lol
[02:09] <Bashing-om> sotty/sorry*
[02:09] <[7666]> all the ppc specific stuff is kicking my ass, although i have it narrowed down to the bootloader
[02:11] <Bashing-om> [7666]: Not know much .. Mac has a a quirky booting system .
[02:12] <[7666]> indeed, yaboot replaces grub, puts itself on sda2 to catch openfirmware, needs to be rebuilt with ybin each time the .conf is changed, etc
[02:12] <[7666]> i've been through the ringer the past few days getting this G5 quad to dual boot nicely
[02:13] <[7666]> once yaboot is in however, it just isn't doing the handoff to its "second stage bootloader" properly, just a big ol' grey screen on both linux and osx boot options
[02:14] <Hand_Solo> hey has anyone had any issues with ras pi 3 and bluetooth, i have 16.04. bluez is installed
[02:15] <Hand_Solo> ive been "googling"
[02:18] <yosefh> Hey guys, does anyone know why the process jbd2/sda8 is taking up 99.99% of my io most of the time?
[02:19] <yosefh> my computer completely freezes every 5 minutes
[02:19] <yosefh> its pretty close to unusable
[02:19] <Guest51880> I have a problem that I'm hoping is just a coincidence: 3 hours ago, I received a call on cell asking about my computer. I told them I don't have a computer and hung up. 2 Hours later, Ubuntu 14.04 froze on one of my PC's. While I could move the mouse around, I couldn't do anything else, as the menus and everything else was blanked out. Naturally, I unplugged my router and went for a run outside. Now that I'm back, I'm
[02:19] <Guest51880> wondering what just happened. Does anyone know of any exploits that would make this possible?
[02:20] <Fisk22> Also I have another question.
[02:20] <Guest51880> In regards to my own, or what?
[02:21] <Fisk22> Whenver I shut down my system, it always freezes at the Screen where the bar is loading, then I manually power it off.
[02:21] <Fisk22> So why is it doing that?
[02:21] <CarpetMonster> Fisk22, it's most likely doing a check on your drive.
[02:22] <Fisk22> Well, it freezes, so, yeah
[02:22] <Fisk22> It doesn't load, ever.
[02:22] <Fisk22> I could leave it on like that for hours and it'd stay that way.
[02:22] <CarpetMonster> Guest51880, I am not aware of any exploits that might allow for that kind of behavior to occur.. do you have SSH installed?
[02:22] <Guest51880> To clarify on my particular issue, I haven't really used my phone number much, and I haven't used Ubuntu in anything shady either..
[02:23] <Guest51880> I'm not certain Carpet...
[02:23] <CarpetMonster> If you're not certain, chances are you don't.
[02:23] <Guest51880> It's secure shell right?
[02:23] <CarpetMonster> Right
[02:23] <Guest51880> It's not something that automatically installs, but something you have to manually compile/configure? I haven't if that's the case
[02:24] <CarpetMonster> and Fisk22, that is strange. Have you tried booting using the recovery media and checking error logs?
[02:24] <yosefh> Does anyone know why jbd2 takes up 99.99% of my computers disk io?
[02:24] <zh1n0> hello
[02:24] <CarpetMonster> Guest51880, yeah you would have to install using apt, or the SOftware Centre or from a deb package
[02:25] <CarpetMonster> Most likely with your case you haven't installed it since you have no idea what I'm on about :P
[02:25] <theShirbiny> yosefh, you don't have to worry about it
[02:25] <CarpetMonster> It's not installed by default AFAIK
[02:25] <Guest51880> Yes, I was going to ask, but I'd wager (based on my limited IT experience) that it would contribute to the issue if someone malicious was indeed after me?
[02:25] <theShirbiny> just make sure you don't have a hardware failure or bad partitions
[02:25] <CarpetMonster> FISK22
[02:25] <CarpetMonster> Also try CTRL-C
[02:25] <yosefh> theShirbiny, my computer is barely usable, it freezes for a minute every 5 or 10 minutes, and applications constantly crash because they can't access the disk
[02:26] <CarpetMonster> see if that helps it skip whatever it's stuck on
[02:26] <Guest51880> It's a networking protocol right ?
[02:26] <Fisk22> I have, it just says it halted.
[02:26] <Fisk22> That's all the logs say.
[02:26] <CarpetMonster> Weird..
[02:26] <theShirbiny> yosefh, try using an older kernel and see what happens, it might be a kernel bug
[02:26] <squinty> Fisk22,  Access the grub menu when rebooting your system. Press the e key on getting the GRUB bootloader menu. Using arrow keys navigate to and delete quiet and splash. Press Ctrl and X at the same time, or F10 to continue booting.  You should see a lot of text output and also might be able to see where it is hanging
[02:27] <theShirbiny> yosefh, can you print uname -a output?
[02:27] <CarpetMonster> Thanks squinty, I was trying to remember how to do that
[02:27] <CarpetMonster> Been a while.
[02:27] <squinty> CarpetMonster, yw
[02:28] <yosefh> I'm using bleeding edge kernel : 4.4.0-22-generic #39-Ubuntu SMP
[02:28] <yosefh> updated may 5th
[02:28] <yosefh> theShirbiny, so you think i should roll back to a previous kernel?
[02:29] <yosefh> theShirbiny, or is the problem that i have 216 bad sectors on a 1TB device? because SMART thinks thats OK
[02:29] <theShirbiny> yes, also see if there's anything interesting in /var/log/syslog
[02:31] <theShirbiny> eliminate that it's a kernel issue and run fsck on that disk
[02:32] <Guest51880> I didn't have more than 2 windows running on my Ubuntu 14.04 machine. It has 6 gigs of ram and an i5 3rd gen..
[02:32] <yosefh> theShirbiny, i grepped for errors and found some inane ones like samba failing and zeitgesit error
[02:32] <Guest51880> It hasn't frozen before and I've had 14.04 running for awhile.
[02:33] <Guest51880> I did ask if it was a coincidence, and that being the case, should I simply continue to monitor it, or is there something else going on?
[02:33] <yosefh> theShirbiny, I ran dmesg looks like 2 applications I was running got segfaults.
[02:33] <CarpetMonster> I vote coincidence.
[02:34] <Guest51880> The hardware is fine, based on tests, and I'm not seeing issues with anything in the update logs for the OS...
[02:34] <CarpetMonster> Most scammers attack Windows users since Linux has such a small market share
[02:34] <CarpetMonster> doubtful anyone was like "Oh man, gotta scam the crap out of Guest51880!!"
[02:34] <CarpetMonster> y'know?
[02:34] <yosefh> theShirbiny, this is constantly spammed in dmesg [233766.797359] usb 3-1: 1:1: usb_set_interface failed (-71) which is worrying because Im using an external usb drive
[02:34] <Guest51880> I hope so, but.. I'm so confused.. linux never just freezed.. yeah carpet that's what scared me, and though I controlled it, i realized that if someone actually got through, any windows related attacks would work
[02:35] <Guest51880> There are some attacks that work on both though.. that made me feel dread
[02:35] <yosefh> theShirbiny, wait nvm i identified that as my sound device
[02:36] <theShirbiny> if it's a filesysetm you'll see something like kernel: EXT4-fs error (device dm-2): __ext4_new_inode:1025: comm xauth: failed to insert inode 737691: doubly allocated?
[02:36] <Guest51880> Well, thanks Carpet, I appreciate your advice.
[02:36] <theShirbiny> or  ext4_lookup:1584: inode #737305: comm ncdu: deleted inode referenced: 747941
[02:36] <CarpetMonster> Anytime, also I am looking into something for you
[02:36] <yosefh> theShirbiny, nothing like that
[02:37] <yosefh> theShirbiny, so i should just rollback my kernel and pray?
[02:37] <Guest51880> CarpetMonster, Oh really? I appreciate that, thank you :). I was going to wish a nice rest of your day, and that I'd try to enjoy mine, but I'll stick around
[02:37] <theShirbiny> yosefh, yes
[02:37] <CarpetMonster> Guest51880, try this command in the terminal:          cat /var/log/dpkg.log | grep "\ install\ "
[02:38] <yosefh> theShirbiny, is there a simple way to do that or should i google it? Also which kernel should i use?
[02:38] <Guest51880> I'll go log into it
[02:38] <CarpetMonster> This will tell you the most recent packages installed. Check for anything that looks like it wasn't something you did and remove it.
[02:38] <theShirbiny> just select an older kernel when you see grub
[02:38] <CarpetMonster> OK. PM me the results, I have to step away for a bit.
[02:39] <yosefh> theShirbiny, i had this issue since I installed ubuntu in one form or another
[02:39] <yosefh> theShirbiny, also kernels are constantly updated
[02:39] <yosefh> so i cant access a kernel from last release or something like that
[02:40] <theShirbiny> install another on
[02:40] <theShirbiny> one*
[02:40] <yosefh> which version is good
[02:40] <yosefh> or should i just keep installing old kernels till one works?
[02:41] <theShirbiny> i have linux-image-4.2.0-36-generic
[02:42] <HetroErectus> microsoft are starting to annoy people with ads for office 365 now ... haha
[02:42] <yosefh> theShirbiny, ok. btw what makes you think its a kernel issue
[02:42] <HetroErectus> in the OS
[02:43] <HetroErectus> i got libreoffice and even google office online so why would i pay for that?
[02:43] <theShirbiny> yosefh, https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Journaling_block_device
[02:44] <HetroErectus> if this is the direction win 10 goes i predict glorious days for linux coming
[02:45] <theShirbiny> either a kernel, filesystem or a hardware issue
[02:45] <yosefh> theShirbiny, so if the problem was a failing disk it would be likelier that all processes would be taking up io rather than just jbd? I thought that the fact jbd was taking io was simply because it is used more than any other process in order to access the disk
[02:47] <theShirbiny> jdb is not a normal process
[02:53] <yosefh> theShirbiny, my bad i meant jbd
[02:54] <theShirbiny> me too xD
[02:54] <yosefh> theShirbiny, :P
[02:56] <cjl> hello
[03:01] <theShirbiny> cjl, o/
[03:02] <cjl> ?
[03:03] <cjl> why no people talking
[03:04] <somsip> cjl: it's a support channel, not a chat channel
[03:04] <Bashing-om> cjl: ubuntu support channel, you have an issue ?
[03:04] <cjl> i see,
[03:05] <yosefh> theShirbiny, is there a history of jbd not working well with new kernel versions?
[03:06] <theShirbiny> jbd is the kernel, you can't control it. downgrade the kernel and see if the issue has been resolved
[03:10] <yosefh> theShirbiny, does it makea  diffference that other processes are also using 99.99% io?
[03:10] <yosefh> theShirbiny, its just mainly jbd
[03:12] <iulian> yosefh, if you want run ls -lS /var/log/*log | head
[03:13] <theShirbiny> don't know, I had this jbd issue with arch and got it fixed by downgrading
[03:13] <iulian> and there look for some large files
[03:15] <Hack> I've got a problem after a recent routine update
[03:16] <Hack> networkmanager is crashing at startup and I can't connect to the internet at all
[03:17] <Hack> manually restarting it with sudo network-manager start just maked ot hang
[03:18] <Hack> and deleting NetworkManager.stare in /var/lib/NetworkManager has no effect either
[03:18] <vinequestionhave> vine.co videos do not work in chromium yet they do work in firefox, why might this be
[03:19] <Hack> help please, I really need an internet connection on this machine and all I can find on this are ancient bug reports and basic troubleshooting instructions (which I just tried)
[03:20] <Hack> since this is update related is there a way to revert to the prior version installed?
[03:20] <Hack> and what dpkg files would I need to fetch on another device and move over on a usb for install to do this?
[03:21] <Hack> please ... help please
[03:23] <krytarik> Hack: What exactly was upgraded anyway?
[03:23] <Bashing-om> Hack: What results when booting an older kernel from grub boot menu ?
[03:26] <Hack> I dont get a grub menu ... can't remember
[03:27] <Hack> the kernel was one thing that updated
[03:27] <Hack> oh this os Ubuntu studio btw
[03:27] <Hack> *is
[03:27] <somsip> Hack: /var/log/apt/history will tell you
[03:28] <fishcooker> how to restart thunderbird using command line?
[03:28] <Bashing-om> Hack: to get the grub menu, reboot and as soon as the bios screen clears depress a shift key .
[03:28] <fishcooker> lets say i have have pid of thunderbird is 12539
[03:29] <hamsterpower> any good pdf viewer you would recommend? Another one that can also highlight and comment?
[03:30] <Hack> trying the old kernel and checking the logs now
[03:30] <Hack> does the same thing with the prior kernel
[03:32] <Bashing-om> Hack: What release ? see what happens when networking is restarted .
[03:33] <Hack> aside from the kernel and headers the following were updated (give me a min, have to type this on a cell phone toucj screen)
[03:34] <Hack> prior release (which ot worked in before but not now) was 3.13.0-85
[03:38] <Hack> ssh-askpass-gnome, openssh-client, linux-libc-dev, libnl-genl-3-200, adobe-flashplugin, libnl-3-200, klibc-utils, lsb-base, lsb-release, libklibc, adobe-flash-properties-gtk, libnl-route-3-200
[03:38] <Hack> that's all apart from the kernel stuffs
[03:40] <yosefh_> theShirbiny, thanks for trying to help ill see if it works
[03:40] <Hack> also as I said networking just hangs when I restart it ...
[03:40] <yosefh_> iulian, what was the command u gave me supposed to do
[03:41] <theShirbiny> yosefh, yw
[03:41] <iulian> yosefh ls -lS /var/log/*log | head
[03:42] <yosefh_> iulian, that one yes it just listed the top log files
[03:42] <yosefh_> iulian, i checked the different logs but i didnt see anything suspicious
[03:42] <Hack> is there a way I can revert the last updates?
[03:42] <Hack> and if so how
[03:44] <eniacpx> TETSUO!
[03:44] <eniacpx> sorry.
[03:45] <Hack> Bashing-om: could you tell me how I might manually revert to the prior versions of the packages updated, without a network connection?
[03:46] <Bashing-om> Hack: No, there is no reversion - only revert is to RE-install the OS .
[03:47] <Bashing-om> Hack: Is this a wired or WIFI cinnectiuon, and what release ?
[03:48] <Hack> Bashing-om: couldn't I manually download the packages on another device and use dpkg to install?   it's a wired connection, or it would be if it was working ...
[03:51] <yosefh_> anyone know a good way to see what is causing a system to have no io left?
[03:51] <Bashing-om> Hack:   Sure possible, however, not in my experience range to do so .
[03:52] <Hack> oh and the release is trusty
[03:53] <backbox> .
[03:53] <backbox> hey
[03:54] <Bashing-om> Hack: Ya want to see what we can do to fix networking ? What results ' ping -c3 127.0.0.1 ' ?
[03:55] <insidious> anyone know the command
[03:56] <insidious> to open up a port
[03:56] <insidious> in ubuntu
[03:56] <krytarik> Hack: LP bug 1539634.
[03:57] <Hack>  and launchpad is now in the middle of an update ... urgh
[03:58] <causative> in 14.04 i have had the problem twice now where I get stuck in the workspace switcher when trying to move a window from one workspace to another
[03:59] <causative> both times I've had to reboot... any other suggestions for if it happens again?
[04:04] <jwcooper> hey was on before as Hack, didn't realize that name belonged to someone else
[04:05] <jwcooper> Bashing-om: that ping request goes thru just fine ... not sure what the prob is...
[04:08] <Bashing-om> jwcooper: I looked at krytarik's link . interesting ,, is that link your situation ?
[04:09] <jwcooper> Bashing-om: can't get it to work for me for some reason
[04:09] <jwcooper> the link that is
[04:10] <Bashing-om> jwcooper: The link works for me . try again ? ..
[04:11] <jwcooper> Bashing-om: already did says launched is not available
[04:12] <jwcooper> finally got it, looks loke thats the issue
[04:13] <jwcooper> Bashing-om: so I'm guessing I need to find an old dpkf for the libnl stuff
[04:14] <Mr_Cyclops> lotuspsychje, my friend you are back online! I missed you :-) Like this is the first time I haven't seen you around. How have you been?
[04:14] <lotuspsychje> !discuss | Mr_Cyclops
[04:15] <Mr_Cyclops> :( lotuspsychje Need expert advise on HDA Jack Retask?
[04:16] <lotuspsychje> Mr_Cyclops: ask your issue to the channel mate, so others can try to help also
[04:18] <Mr_Cyclops> HP Envy with Beats Audio | Extra woofers/speakers do not work | Googled a lot | Was suggested to retask pin configuration via HDA Jack Retask app since Beats does not make drivers for beats audio and there doesnt seem to be one in the Open Source linux community. But my card detection never matches any of the configuration setting I found on google. (So that I can go ahead and retask those Pins)
[04:18] <Bruze> I've got a fun one for you guys. I've got two SSDs, one totally for Windows 10 and one totally for Ubuntu. I've currently got Ubuntu booting first, they booth boot fine if you swap the order, and after some work I got grub to show up, but Windows 10 doesn't show up in grub. I've tried update-grub and boot repair and can't seem to figure it out
[04:18] <krytarik> jwcooper: No, you just need to upgrade the NetworkManager stuff somehow - should have been at the same time, but didn't for some reason.  https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/network-manager/0.9.8.8-0ubuntu7.3
[04:18] <jwcooper> yeah that would be awesome ... if I could get a network connection!
[04:19] <Bashing-om> jwcooper: It is past my bed time now .. as much as I want to see how this plays out; be much faster to re-install and before updates make sure the proposed repo is not eneabled .
[04:19] <lotuspsychje> Bruze: uefi settings perhaps, or erased win10 by mistake?
[04:19] <jwcooper> it isn't ...
[04:20] <Mr_Cyclops> thanks to whoever can help me with expert mode HDA Jack Retask pin configurations
[04:20] <Bruze> Win10 is definitely still there, I can swap the two SSDs in the boot order and get into it just fine. uefi settings are my bet but I don't know enough about them to really do anything
[04:20] <krytarik> jwcooper: Well, you could download and install the relevant packages manually - hence the link.
[04:20] <lotuspsychje> !uefi | Bruze
[04:20] <Bruze> Thats a neat trick
[04:21] <agung> Can ubuntu run on 512 ram?
[04:21] <lotuspsychje> agung: depends wich flavor
[04:22] <lotuspsychje> agung: xubuntu of lubuntu will run on that
[04:22] <Bruze> Hmm, when I run update-grub the last thing it says is "Adding boot menu entry for EFI hardware configuration". Is it possible I installed Ubuntu in BIOS and then because W10 is UEFI they don't chit chat?
[04:22] <agung> yes,, i'm running xubuntu now....
[04:23] <lotuspsychje> agung: ubuntu-desktop with unity, would be low with 512ram
[04:23] <agung> but , i think is very heavy ....
[04:23] <kunji> Hey everyone, what's the current status for Ubuntu 16.04 and ATI graphics, particularly with a 4870.  Right now on 14.04 I need to use and old kernel for the 4k output to function.
[04:23] <Bashing-om> jwcooper: krytarik :: Going to bail on yall .. good luck .
[04:23] <lotuspsychje> agung: try lubuntu perhaps
[04:24] <lotuspsychje> kunji: ati gets radeon or amdgpu drivers on 16.04
[04:24] <agung> will ubuntu 16.04 running well on 1 gb ram ?
[04:24] <lotuspsychje> kunji: its also recommended to wait until 16.04.1 to upgrade from 14.04
[04:25] <kunji> lotuspsychje: So 0 chance for use for compute, no?
[04:25] <Mr_Cyclops> agung, Ubuntu 16.04 Mate and Xubuntu will run wel on 1 gig of RAM. Base usage is less than 512 megs
[04:25] <somsip> agung: https://help.ubuntu.com/16.04/installation-guide/s390x/ch02s03.html
[04:25] <theShirbiny> in lxd, how can i push a directory not just a file?
[04:25] <agung> wow .... I'll try it :D
[04:25] <IR2170> hi
[04:25] <IR2170> how do i register my name
[04:25] <IR2170> here
[04:25] <somsip> !register | IR2170
[04:25] <lotuspsychje> kunji: try a 16.04 liveusb perhaps, see how the driver reacts on your card
[04:25] <IR2170> send me the comand pls
[04:26] <Bruze> lotuspsychje: Hmm, when I run update-grub the last thing it says is "Adding boot menu entry for EFI hardware configuration". Is it possible I installed Ubuntu in BIOS and then because W10 is UEFI they don't chit chat?
[04:26] <jwcooper> using synaptic to manually upgrade networkmanager ... now that I got it working worh instructions in the commentes of the bug report
[04:26] <lotuspsychje> Bruze: not sure mate, i dont like dualboots myself...but if win10 doesnt show could be uefi related yes
[04:27] <EriC^^> Bruze: what's your problem?
[04:27] <Bruze> Here I'll copy paste one sec
[04:27] <IR2170> tell me a room for android
[04:27] <lotuspsychje> !paste | Bruze
[04:27] <Bruze> EriC^^: I've got two SSDs, one totally for Windows 10 and one totally for Ubuntu. I've currently got Ubuntu booting first, they booth boot fine if you swap the order, and after some work I got grub to show up, but Windows 10 doesn't show up in grub. I've tried update-grub and boot repair and can't seem to figure it out
[04:27] <IR2170> pls
[04:27] <IR2170> where i dont need to register my name
[04:27] <lotuspsychje> !alis | IR2170
[04:28] <EriC^^> Bruze: ok, type sudo parted -l | nc termbin.com 9999
[04:28] <kunji> lotuspsychje: I can do that, but regardless of how it reacts for desktop, unless something major changed the open source drivers don't have any of the compute support, and the legacy ones.... are also very sparse on it where it exists at all (my current situation, lol).
[04:28] <Bruze> http://termbin.com/hqs9
[04:28] <lotuspsychje> kunji: alot have changed in opensource drivers already, i advise you test in a live
[04:29] <Bashing-om> jwcooper: You got networking working ?
[04:29] <agung> I try compiz on Xubuntu .. but stuck every time .....
[04:29] <jwcooper> yeah finally
[04:29] <Bruze> I also have a third hard drive that is solely partitioned for bulk storage but I don't think it should affect anything
[04:29] <kunji> lotuspsycheje: I know, but as I understood this wasn't being worked on at all, I'll do some research and find out now ^_^
[04:29] <kernelcruncher> is brasero not installed by default in 16.04
[04:29] <Bashing-om> hwang4: Great .. will also mark it down .
[04:30] <lotuspsychje> kernelcruncher: correct
[04:30] <EriC^^> Bruze: there's 1tb on one disk and the rest on another for linux
[04:30] <EriC^^> is that a separate /home?
[04:30] <EriC^^> Bruze: and yes one is installed in legacy the other in uefi(ubuntu)
[04:30] <lotuspsychje> kunji: if it doesnt work out make a new !bug mate
[04:30] <kernelcruncher> lotuspsychje, how odd, I don't recall that in 14.04
[04:30] <jwcooper> will have to remember how to manually do that ... seems someone forgot to add networkmanager to the list of recommended updates along with the libraries
[04:31] <Bruze> I installed Ubuntu with only the Crucial plugged in, so its all on there
[04:31] <lotuspsychje> kernelcruncher: things change in between ubuntu versions, its evolution :p
[04:31] <lotuspsychje> kernelcruncher: you can fix with sudo apt install brasero
[04:31] <EriC^^> Bruze: nope
[04:32] <EriC^^> int he first disk there's 1tb ext4
[04:32] <Bruze> The 3Tb drive I plugged in, partitioned, and mounted
[04:32] <EriC^^> oh so it's extra space
[04:32] <kernelcruncher> lotuspsychje, I was wondering if perhaps they left it out because generally there might be a more favoured option
[04:33] <Bruze> Yeah otherwise I'd fill up my SSD real quick lol
[04:33] <EriC^^> Bruze: oh ok
[04:33] <EriC^^> Bruze: you need to install windows and ubuntu both in uefi or legacy mode
[04:33] <lotuspsychje> kernelcruncher: i think the reason is because the more popular USB these days, cd/dvd isnt used as much anymore
[04:33] <Bruze> EriC^^:  which would be easier?
[04:33] <Bruze> Ubuntu in legacy or Windows in UEFI
[04:34] <lotuspsychje> kernelcruncher: many computers dont even come with cd/dvd by default anymore either
[04:34] <EriC^^> Bruze: easier i guess would be legacy, uefi is nice though and new
[04:35] <kernelcruncher> correct
[04:35] <Bruze> EriC^^: Hmm, I'll poke around a bit, if I can install Windows UEFI I'd rather do that for the sake of shiny newness lol
[04:36] <lotuspsychje> kernelcruncher: but hey, its your machine, you choose what packages to install dont mind what ubuntu brings by default or not
[04:36] <lotuspsychje> Bruze: another way: loose windows once and for good and make your life real easy with ubuntu on all your ssd's
[04:38] <Bruze> lotuspsychje: lol I'd love to but I need Windows for games and that one poorly designed program I use for work
[04:38] <lotuspsychje> Bruze: wine, playonlinux,steam
[04:38] <lotuspsychje> Bruze: there's a pretty active #gamingonlinux community also that never heard of windows :p
[04:39] <R0binh00d> is wine on ubuntu a valid topic of discussion/queries for this channel ?
[04:40] <R0binh00d> Cause I have some issues
[04:40] <R0binh00d> with running IE on Wine
[04:40] <lotuspsychje> R0binh00d: sure
[04:40] <Bruze> Okay I think I know how to put W10 in UEFI, pray for me boys
[04:40] <somsip> R0binh00d: use one of the MS VMs instead
[04:40] <R0binh00d> I do :-) But I just need IE for a particular site so didnt want to waste MEM on VM, though I have one
[04:41] <R0binh00d> IE8 on wine, Ubuntu mate 16.04 crashes within a min :(
[04:41] <lotuspsychje> R0binh00d: try chromium-browser on your site perhaps?
[04:41] <R0binh00d> its actually for Citrix
[04:41] <lotuspsychje> R0binh00d: what happens on firefox on your site?
[04:42] <R0binh00d> I installed icaclient but my company's VM from inside Citrix page doesnt open
[04:42] <somsip> R0binh00d: perfdect match, so might be worth a try https://www.winehq.org/pipermail/wine-bugs/2012-June/325601.html
[04:42] <R0binh00d> tx somsip I will give that URL a try
[04:42] <somsip> R0binh00d: it's old, but might be a simple fix
[04:44] <R0binh00d> yeah, does look like :-) tx
[04:44] <Guest64027> hi
[04:45] <Guest64027> my ubuntu 14 freezes frequently
[04:46] <Guest64027> my ubuntu 14 freezes frequently
[04:47] <lotuspsychje> !details | Guest64027
[04:49] <R0binh00d> !pastebin
[04:49] <Guest64027> lotuspsychje: it suddenly freezes
[04:50] <lotuspsychje> Guest64027: did you have this with other ubuntu versions?
[04:51] <Guest64027> no.. this is first time,,,, everything freezes.. even mouse keyboard .. R0binhh00d
[04:52] <newToU> Hi. On windows I can be connected to a Wi-Fi network to access the internet and create a separate network the I can connect to with another PC. Is this possible with linux?
[04:52] <lotuspsychje> Guest64027: is your system up to date to latest?
[04:52] <Guest64027> yes.. i done update through terminal lotuspsychje
[04:53] <PaulePanter> Hi. How does Unity handle the laptop screen backlight? Does it use D-Bus?
[04:53] <lotuspsychje> Guest64027: try a tail -f /var/log/syslog and check if there are errors before it freezes
[04:54] <Guest64027> lotuspsychje: i'm doing it now
[04:55] <Guest40212> do you guys know a good client for twitter?
[04:55] <Guest64027> lotuspsychje: http://pastebin.com/cy614jEZ
[04:57] <lotuspsychje> Guest64027: ok, keep the tail open, until you get a a freeze, fool around with your system a bit now: open multiple tabs on firefox, open few programs simultaneous
[04:58] <Guest64027> ok... after freeze what to do lotuspsychje
[04:59] <lotuspsychje> Guest64027: you observe in the syslog in your tail first, what actually happens, after you need a reboot you can browse into the syslog
[04:59] <Guest64027> lotuspsychje: ok.. i'll ping u with log after it freezes...thanks lotuspsychje
[05:00] <lotuspsychje> Guest64027: your graphics card driver is installed correctly also?
[05:00] <lotuspsychje> Guest64027: you can check with sudo lshw -C video or software&source icon/tab additional drivers
[05:02] <Guest64027> lotuspsychje: i got no graphic card
[05:02] <lotuspsychje> Guest64027: ? your on ubuntu server?
[05:03] <Guest64027> lotuspsychje: im on ubuntu desktop.. not server
[05:03] <kunji> lotuspsychje: Yep, I mean.. it says "TODO" but I'm not holding my breath with the huge amount of work they still need to do for even the more modern cards.   https://dri.freedesktop.org/wiki/GalliumCompute/    The 4870 is an r700 card.
[05:04] <somsip> Guest64027: do you mean you have an onboard video card?
[05:04] <hakuna> #sunpy
[05:04] <Guest64027> somsip: i got no graphic cards like nvidia etc.. no graphic card
[05:04] <lotuspsychje> kunji: thats why we need new !bugs to help the community make it better
[05:04] <M4RC3LLUS> Anyone know any common issues with booting up Ubuntu? I'm almost certain that whatever process Ubuntu goes through to boot up is screwed. All I get is a blank screen
[05:05] <somsip> !nomodeset | M4RC3LLUS
[05:05] <kunji> lotuspsychje: Yes, but my bug of "old card doesn't work" wouldn't be very helpful ^_^
[05:05] <lotuspsychje> Guest64027: so if you have integraded graphics, perhaps unity could be too heavy for your system?
[05:06] <lotuspsychje> Guest64027: have you tried a lubuntu or xubuntu yet, to see if you get freezes?
[05:06] <Guest64027> lotuspsychje: so how to reduce the load.. any commands
[05:06] <Guest64027> lotuspsychje: any commands?
[05:06] <M4RC3LLUS> somsip: Where are these options?
[05:06] <lotuspsychje> Guest64027: well we would have to investigate first, why your system freezes first
[05:07] <lotuspsychje> M4RC3LLUS: read the link mate, its explained
[05:07] <Guest64027> lotuspsychje: would u like to take remote conn to my ubuntu
[05:08] <M4RC3LLUS> lotuspsychje: I am
[05:08] <lotuspsychje> Guest64027: no sorry, its not recommended to remote takeover from here
[05:08] <Guest64027> lotuspsychje: ok
[05:08] <Guest64027> lotuspsychje: any commands to lower the graphic usage?
[05:08] <lotuspsychje> Guest64027: keep an eye on your syslog, and try to make your computer sweat to make it freeze
[05:09] <Guest64027> lotuspsychje: ok .. from now i'll be on that task.
[05:09] <Guest64027> lotuspsychje: bye..thanks a lot man.
[05:09] <Guest64027> lotuspsychje: D
[05:09] <lotuspsychje> Guest64027: unity can be tweaked a bit for lower graphics yes, but if your integraded card doesnt like unity..not much we can do
[05:10] <Guest64027> lotuspsychje: ok.. i didn't get what u said..but anyways i'll ping you with the lot after it freezes
[05:11] <lotuspsychje> Guest64027: with ccsm and unity-tweak-tool you can tweak unity for lower animations and dash blur etc...
[05:12] <Guest64027> lotuspsychje: ohh ok got it brother.. thanks.
[05:12] <lotuspsychje> Guest64027: install lightweight programs like chromium-browser to browse the web,etc install preload
[05:13] <Guest64027> lotuspsychje: well i believe its not about the heavy load.. when i use some light weight apps like notepad for around fifteen mins it also freezes
[05:13] <lotuspsychje> Guest64027: ok, then its important to findout why it freezes first
[05:14] <Guest64027> lotuspsychje: yes you are right ..
[05:14] <lotuspsychje> Guest64027: did you change anything in your system/bios/hardware recently?
[05:15] <azizLIGHT> im trying to install xrectsel using github source, but when i try to do ./bootstrap, it says ./bootstrap: line 1: autoreconf: command not found
[05:16] <azizLIGHT> when i apt-cache search autoreconf i see that there is a autoconf2.13 - automatic configure script builder (obsolete version)
[05:16] <Guest64027> lotuspsychje: there is a small problem here.. when i switch on the computer it automatically goes to win10.. to boot the ubuntu i have to stop the automatic boot and then i have to goto my hdd to fireup the ubuntu boot menu
[05:16] <azizLIGHT> is it bad if i install this obsolute vereion
[05:16] <Guest64027> lotuspsychje: i think i didn't installed ubuntu correctly
[05:16] <azizLIGHT> *obsolete version
[05:17] <soupnanodesukar> running a pcie-passthrough vm, and I just got the following in my dmesg http://paste.ubuntu.com/16385492/ On the second line, I lost my secondary video card output.
[05:17] <soupnanodesukar> *second repeated line
[05:17] <lotuspsychje> !uefi | Guest64027 read here also
[05:17] <soupnanodesukar> i.e. the last line
[05:18] <soupnanodesukar> any ideas? It's been this way since 16.04
[05:18] <Guest64027> lotuspsychje: ok brother..i'll reinstall ubuntu.. thanks for helping..you rock !!
[05:20] <UbuntuDude> Is it possible to make Ubuntu dekstop icons as neat the ones on windows? in terms of simillar icon and font sizes
[05:20] <soupnanodesukar> If it helps I also have the following on the console http://paste.ubuntu.com/16385512/ which also didn't happen before 16.04
[05:20] <lotuspsychje> !themes | UbuntuDude
[05:22] <HetroErectus> maybe ubuntu mate should have a "get theme" thingy like kde
[05:23] <fromhy> test
[05:23] <HetroErectus> where you just click "install"
[05:23] <HetroErectus> umm.. i mixed this up with ubuntu mate chan.. anyway.. maybe ubuntu should then
[05:24] <lotuspsychje> HetroErectus: there is unity-tweak-tool to manage themes easy
[05:24] <HetroErectus> <- uses mate .. and mate tweak tool. its good but not exactly what i mean
[05:25] <Hand_Solo> howdy, im having trouble getting bluetooth working on ubuntu mate 16.04
[05:25] <Hand_Solo> can anyone help me?
[05:25] <soupnanodesukar> Also I now have one cpu stuck at 100% http://paste.ubuntu.com/16385537/ after the video card went awol.
[05:25] <Hand_Solo> ive made sure the latest bluez is installed
[05:25] <lapion> Hello
[05:26] <Hand_Solo> howdy
[05:26] <lotuspsychje> !bluetooth | Hand_Solo
[05:26] <lotuspsychje> Hand_Solo: you can also install blueman perhaps
[05:26] <lapion> Whenever I enter safe mode and try to activate the network from the menu I get the a really irritating systemd related problem
[05:27] <lotuspsychje> lapion: why do you enter safe mode?
[05:27] <lapion> to do maintenance, eg make backups etc etc
[05:28] <lapion> but before doing backups I like to do update all packages
[05:28] <lotuspsychje> lapion: does your network work on normal boot?
[05:29] <lapion> yes lotuspsychje
[05:29] <lotuspsychje> lapion: why not manage your system on regular desktop then?
[05:29] <lapion> it's not a network problem because I manually create resolv.conf and use dhclient everything works fine,
[05:30] <lotuspsychje> lapion: recoverymode is meant to enter if things are badly, not really to daily system management
[05:30] <lapion> it's only with the menu option, or if you start the network manager from safe mode that things don't work
[05:31] <lapion> lotuspsychje, making a backup and updating before upgrading is not day to day
[05:31] <php> Hey there
[05:31] <php> What are some good VNC servers?
[05:31] <lotuspsychje> php: be carefull with vnc, its a security flaw to use
[05:31] <php> I am aware
[05:31] <lotuspsychje> !vnc | php
[05:32] <lapion> lotuspsychje, whenever in recoverymode on tries to start networkmanager either from the menu or from the commandline
[05:32] <php> !FreeNX
[05:32] <lotuspsychje> php: can you do your work in ssh?
[05:32] <php> lotuspsychje, giving my friends access to a linux machine
[05:33] <php> right now i have xrdp, since they connect from windows
[05:33] <lotuspsychje> php: for 1 time or serveral times?
[05:33] <php> but xrdp is a bit old
[05:33] <php> several
[05:33] <lotuspsychje> php: better let him learn openssh mate
[05:33] <php> he's not anywhere close to power user
[05:33] <lapion> networkmanager stumbles over the fact that the directory /run/resolvconf and thereby /run/resolvconf/interface does not exist
[05:33] <lotuspsychje> php: for 1 time use perhaps teamviewer
[05:34] <php> more than one friend too
[05:34] <php> so tv might not be great
[05:34] <php> should i continue with xrdp?
[05:34] <php> it's dated but works
[05:34] <fromhy_> !test | fromhy
[05:34] <lotuspsychje> php: i would not recommend remote viewers for security reasons
[05:34] <php> lotuspsychje, it's not a machine with any important stuff
[05:34] <fromhy_> !hello | fromhy
[05:34] <php> it's merely a peasant VM
[05:34] <php> ;)
[05:35] <lotuspsychje> fromhy_: can we help you?
[05:35] <lapion> lotuspsychje, should the network option not simply work ?
[05:35] <lotuspsychje> lapion: normally yes
[05:35] <lotuspsychje> lapion: wifi or cable?
[05:36] <lotuspsychje> php: if its for pleasure, vino or teamviewer perhaps
[05:36] <lapion> lotuspsychje, cable and the network interface is available if manually started up with dhclient and manually created resolv.conf
[05:37] <lotuspsychje> lapion: what kind of error does systemd spit out exactly?
[05:37] <fromhy_> i am newbie
[05:38] <lotuspsychje> fromhy_: you joined the ubuntu support channel here, please only ubuntu questions here
[05:38] <tim241> hi guys
[05:38] <fromhy__> #codeeigniter-cn
[05:39] <lapion> "/run/resolvconf" either does not exist or is not a directory
[05:40] <lapion> and networkmanager then freezes up or loops cannot find /etc/resolv.conf
[05:40] <tim241> !pastebin (test)
[05:40] <lapion> lotuspsychje,  and yes I have dpkg-reconfigured resolvconf to no avail
[05:41] <lotuspsychje> lapion: weird that you can normal boot with network..
[05:41] <lapion> lotuspsychje, let me double check
[05:43] <Bruze> EriC^^: still here?
[05:43] <EriC^^> yeah
[05:43] <lotuspsychje> lapion: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/resolvconf/+bug/33362
[05:43] <lotuspsychje> !paste | tim241
[05:44] <Bruze> Thank you a ton for your advice, looks like my computer booted the Legacy version of the W10 installer on the flash drive, i went through and redid it with the UEFI version and now everything is working GREAT
[05:44] <tim241> why did you do that?
[05:44] <lotuspsychje> !cookie | EriC^^
[05:44] <tim241> I only wanted to test if that worked
[05:44] <lapion> lotuspsychje, doesn't work in regular mode as well.
[05:45] <lotuspsychje> lapion: sounds like something broken then, did you try recoverymode==>fix broken packages yet?
[05:45] <lotuspsychje> tim241: dont test here please
[05:45] <Bruze> Plus now Windows 10 boots at the speed I remember it booting at
[05:45] <tim241> lotuspsychje sorry it was not ment to annoy you :-(
[05:46] <EriC^^> Bruze: great
[05:51] <Solarbaby> I need to force ubuntu to boot into systemd
[05:51] <lotuspsychje> Solarbaby: wich ubuntu version are you on?
[05:51] <Solarbaby> if it loads by it's current default kernel then it crashes the system
[05:51] <Solarbaby> 16.04 Ubuntu Mate
[05:51] <Solarbaby> I think I installed sysv earlier which probably messed things up
[05:52] <lotuspsychje> Solarbaby: did you disable crucial things?
[05:52] <Seveas> Solarbaby: then reinstall. No init daemon except systemd is supported in 16.04
[05:52] <Solarbaby> I don't know that I disabled anything really..
[05:52] <Solarbaby> reinstall the entire system?
[05:53] <Solarbaby> the whole OS?
[05:53] <lotuspsychje> Solarbaby: could try the recoverymode/fix broken packages first
[05:53] <Seveas> you've made it so unstable it doesn't boot properly, so safest thing is to reinstall
[05:54] <soupnanodesukar> Solarbaby: if init is refusing to run, specify init=/bin/bash on the kernel command line
[05:54] <soupnanodesukar> you will absolutely be on your your however with no running services
[05:54] <soupnanodesukar> and you'll have to bring the system up manually
[05:54] <soupnanodesukar> just reinstall
[05:54] <Solarbaby> alright .. yuck
[05:55] <Solarbaby> yeah maybe a reinstall would be easier.. not faster though.
[05:55] <lotuspsychje> Solarbaby: dont disable systemd stuff you dont know :p
[05:55] <Solarbaby> well I didn't think I disabled anything.. I just did something like sudo apt-get install sysv
[05:55] <lotuspsychje> !info sysv
[05:56] <Solarbaby> yeah I have to lookup what it actually is that i installed but I believe it sounded like sysv
[05:56] <lotuspsychje> Solarbaby: that package to manage systemd services?
[05:57] <soupnanodesukar> Solarbaby: You mean systemd-sysv?
[05:57] <Solarbaby> sudo apt-get install upstart-sysv
[05:57] <Solarbaby> is this reversable?
[05:58] <Solarbaby> whatever it did broke something
[05:58] <lotuspsychje> Solarbaby: you can try to purge it
[05:58] <Solarbaby> sudo apt-get purge upstart-sysv
[05:58] <Solarbaby> like that
[05:58] <lotuspsychje> yep
[05:58] <Solarbaby> thanks
[05:59] <lotuspsychje> Solarbaby: why did you try to install upstart over systemd?
[06:00] <bq> is it possible to infect virus through email?
[06:00] <lotuspsychje> !virus | bq
[06:01] <lotuspsychje> bq: stay alert for social engineering by email though..
[06:01] <bq> lotuspsychje: i got an unknown email sent via mailgun. nothing but a big green button in body. is it safe to click the button? i am curious.
[06:02] <lotuspsychje> bq: dont click random buttons you dont know
[06:02] <lotuspsychje> bq: if you dont trust==> delete
[06:02] <bq> lotuspsychje: what possible consequence if clicking?
[06:03] <lotuspsychje> bq: there are many techniques out there that can social engineer your data
[06:03] <Solarbaby> lotuspsychje: your purge recommendation fixed everything
[06:04] <lotuspsychje> bq: lets say you pc bank and click a random banner, attackers could get your info
[06:04] <lotuspsychje> !yay | Solarbaby
[06:04] <Solarbaby> Thanks!!
[06:04] <bq> lotuspsychje: pc bank?
[06:04] <lotuspsychje> bq: online banking
[06:05] <soupnanodesukar> bq: let
[06:05] <soupnanodesukar> bq: let's say you bank at westpac.com, but you get an email from vvestpac.com asking for your password. Like that
[06:06] <lotuspsychje> bq: if you wanna test emails, try a virtual machine or something
[06:17] <tim241> is it safe to run he command sudo rm -rf /
[06:17] <somsip> tim241: no, but the system will stop you anyway
[06:18] <tim241> ok
[06:18] <slaffe> hmm, when executing apt-get update i receive this message:
[06:18] <slaffe> W : An error occurred when verifying the signature. The stock has not been updated and the previous index files will be used . GPG error: http://shell.ninthgate.se wheezy InRelease : The following signatures could not be verified because the public key is not available: NO_PUBKEY 0B38CE01521D8275
[06:18] <slaffe> W : Failed to fetch http://shell.ninthgate.se/packages/debian/dists/wheezy/InRelease
[06:18] <slaffe> W : Some index files failed to download . They have been ignored , or old ones used instead .
[06:18] <slaffe> How do I solve this?
[06:19] <somsip> slaffe: is this something to do with ubuntu?
[06:19] <slaffe> I guess?
[06:19] <slaffe> I run ubuntu?
[06:20] <somsip> slaffe: you're using a debian wheezy repo
[06:20] <tim241> is this safe?
[06:20] <lotuspsychje> !debian | slaffe
[06:20] <slaffe> I run Ubuntu server 14.04?
[06:21] <tim241> dd if=/dev/input/mice of=/dev/sda
[06:21] <lotuspsychje> slaffe: explain why you use a debian repo on your server then?
[06:21] <tim241> is thatsafe? ^^
[06:21] <slaffe> I do not know, probably added some debian repo by mysstake then
[06:22] <fourcolors_> hi
[06:22] <slaffe> How do I know wich repo its causing this?
[06:22] <lotuspsychje> !ppapurge | slaffe
[06:22] <tim241> ??
[06:22] <somsip> tim241: these are not helpful questions
[06:22] <tim241> sorry
[06:22] <tgm4883> tim241: no
[06:22] <azizLIGHT> im trying to install xrectsel using github source, but when i try to do ./bootstrap, it says "./bootstrap: line 1: autoreconf: command not found" ## when i apt-cache search autoreconf i see that there is a autoconf2.13 - automatic configure script builder (obsolete version). is it ok to use this obsolete version?
[06:23] <slaffe> and that wont fuck up anything when using that ppapurge?
[06:23] <lotuspsychje> slaffe: you should know wich ppa's you added to your system, we dont know that
[06:23] <lotuspsychje> !sources | slaffe to see ubuntu repos
[06:24] <fourcolors> hello
[06:24] <slaffe> Well, I did not ask you to tell me wich repo it was, More like where do I find the repo list
[06:24] <fourcolors> I'm new to Ubuntu. I haven't used Ubuntu in about 10 years actually haha
[06:24] <somsip> slaffe: /etc/apt/sources.list.d
[06:24] <fourcolors> just started using it again
[06:24] <lotuspsychje> fourcolors: welcome back!
[06:24] <fourcolors> haha thanks
[06:25] <slaffe> thank you.
[06:25] <lotuspsychje> fourcolors: you can ask ubuntu support questions here
[06:25] <fourcolors> I'm rocking the gnome3 shell
[06:25] <lotuspsychje> fourcolors: for other chat, try #ubuntu-discuss or #ubuntu-offtopic
[06:26] <fourcolors> lotuspsychje, ok well, lets see. I'm rocking gnome3 like mentioned and I'm having an issue setting my User's account photo. When I click the 'unlock' button and authenticate it seems to work however, when I click on the graph profile photo icon and select an icon I'd like to use as my user's icon or I select a custom photo, it never sticks. it seems like maybe a permission issue?
[06:27] <fourcolors> I'm not sure what to do.
[06:27] <bq> lotuspsychje: here is the weird email: http://postimg.org/image/tvb6s8old/71461c15/
[06:27] <lotuspsychje> bq: again, dont click things you dont trust
[06:28] <lotuspsychje> bq: even on ubuntu social engineering can retrieve some personal info form you..
[06:28] <slaffe> so
[06:28] <slaffe> [08:29:34]slaffe@scenics:/etc/apt/sources.list.d$ cat * | grep debian
[06:28] <slaffe> deb http://shell.ninthgate.se/packages/debian wheezy main
[06:28] <slaffe> deb http://shell.ninthgate.se/packages/debian wheezy main
[06:28] <slaffe> there I have it
[06:28] <slaffe> nice, thanks guys
[06:29] <lotuspsychje> fourcolors: perhaps the #ubuntu-gnome channel might know this?
[06:29] <ducasse> fourcolors: if you save a png as ~/.face, most apps will automatically find it.
[06:29] <fourcolors>  /join #ubuntu-gnome
[06:30] <fourcolors> oops
[06:31] <slaffe> So, fixed one problem, one to go
[06:31] <slaffe> what is causing this then? W : GPG error: http://extras.ubuntu.com trusty Release : The following signatures could not be verified because the public key is not available: NO_PUBKEY 16126D3A3E5C1192
[06:32] <lotuspsychje> slaffe: did you sudo apt-get update after ppa purge?
[06:33] <slaffe> No, I did not use ppa purge, removed the debian repo instead
[06:33] <slaffe> found it, was apparently plex repo for debian
[06:34] <slaffe> But this error remains
[06:34] <lotuspsychje> slaffe: with just ppa removed, packages still remain, so the ppapurge method is advised
[06:34] <slaffe> ok, i'll give that a try
[06:35] <slaffe> so it'll be something like sudo ppa-purge ppa:<ubuntu> ?
[06:36] <lotuspsychje> !ppapurge
[06:37] <slaffe> I dont know wich ppa to remove?
[06:37] <slaffe> page gives example how to purge mozilla ppa
[06:38] <slaffe> ah hm ok
[06:38] <lotuspsychje> slaffe: all the ppa's that are non-official can possibly damage
[06:40] <fourcolors> ducasse, that works, I just wonder why the graphical interface doesn't work
[06:40] <fourcolors> hmm
[06:40] <slaffe> Still dont get it. How to purge when I do not know what PPA to purge?
[06:40] <slaffe> Can I purge it all?
[06:40] <lotuspsychje> slaffe: dont purge ubuntu repos right lol
[06:40] <lotuspsychje> slaffe: check the !sources recommended, then compare to your sources
[06:40] <xangua> What repository do you want to remove? How did you add it? slaffe
[06:41] <slaffe> I do not know what repo to purge, I had some errors occuring now, not added any repos for months
[06:41] <ducasse> fourcolors: all the gui does is save the image as ~/.face...
[06:41] <slaffe> so I removed plex repo wich I guess were causing this
[06:42] <slaffe> Now I do not know if it's that repo who is causing this W : GPG error: http://extras.ubuntu.com trusty Release : The following signatures could not be verified because the public key is not available: NO_PUBKEY 16126D3A3E5C1192
[06:42] <xangua> !gpgerr | slaffe
[06:43] <fourcolors> ducasse, weird, it doesn't seem to do that for me.
[06:43] <fourcolors> ducasse, I wonder if it's a permission issue or something
[06:43] <slaffe> I've not added any repos for months, wierd i'd get this error now?
[06:44] <xangua> slaffe: unless you share with us the first actual message you got, a guess isn't really helpful
[06:44] <slaffe> I already did
[06:44] <slaffe> hang on
[06:44] <ducasse> fourcolors: no idea, i've never used gnome, so i'm not familiar with it.
[06:44] <slaffe> 08:18am] <slaffe> hmm, when executing apt-get update i receive this message:
[06:44] <slaffe> [08:18am] <slaffe> W : An error occurred when verifying the signature. The stock has not been updated and the previous index files will be used . GPG error: http://shell.ninthgate.se wheezy InRelease : The following signatures could not be verified because the public key is not available: NO_PUBKEY 0B38CE01521D8275
[06:44] <slaffe> [08:18am] <slaffe> W : Failed to fetch http://shell.ninthgate.se/packages/debian/dists/wheezy/InRelease
[06:44] <slaffe> [08:18am] <slaffe> W : Some index files failed to download . They have been ignored , or old ones used instead .
[06:45] <lotuspsychje> slaffe: thats still your debian repos not purged correctly
[06:45] <slaffe> repo says Components: main
[06:45] <slaffe> Description: MoxZ APT Repository
[06:46] <slaffe> Warning: Could not find package list for PPA: ppa:moxz ppa:moxz
[06:47] <xangua> Sounds like that repository doesn't exists
[06:48] <slaffe> mhm
[06:49] <ducasse> slaffe: did you add the subdir to the command line?
[06:49] <slaffe> No, I did not
[06:49] <ducasse> slaffe: it should be ppa:repo/subdir
[06:50] <slaffe> i'll try that
[06:52] <slaffe> well, dir is already removed since I removed the application
[06:53] <tgm4883> ducasse: ppa:team/repo
[06:54] <slaffe> It wont even find the repo MoxZ anyway
[06:54] <lotuspsychje> tgm4883: team is also repo name
[06:55] <tgm4883> lotuspsychje: it's "ppa:owner/repo"
[06:55] <tgm4883> the name of the repo is after the /
[06:55] <lotuspsychje> !ppapurge | tgm4883
[06:55] <ducasse> tgm4883: yes, sorry.
[06:56] <tgm4883> lotuspsychje: great, so whoever wrote that also didn't know
[06:56] <tgm4883> not that it really matters that much
[06:57] <slaffe> w/e
[06:57] <slaffe> I guess I'll ingore that error for now
[06:58] <slaffe> ignore
[06:58] <lotuspsychje> slaffe: error should not be there, ppapurge then sudo apt-get update after
[06:58] <slaffe> How to ppaprge when I cant fidn the ppa name?
[06:59] <slaffe> From their repo list it says it is MoxZ repo
[06:59] <slaffe> but that does not excist on the system
[07:00] <slaffe> the repo said: Components: main
[07:00] <slaffe> Description: MoxZ APT Repository
[07:01] <lotuspsychje> slaffe: find the right webpage where you downloaded plexmediaserver or launchpad
[07:01] <slaffe> think I uses apt-get install plexserver
[07:01] <slaffe> plexmediaserver maybe
[07:02] <slaffe> first error message was pointing to ninthheaven.se
[07:02] <slaffe> or ninthgate.se
[07:03] <leagris> Hello there
[07:03] <leagris> I try since 10 minutes to subscribe to Ubuntu One
[07:03] <slaffe> Found it, the guide I used were pointing to this: I must've been to fast and not reading the repo
[07:03] <slaffe> wget -O - http://shell.ninthgate.se/packages/shell.nintghate.se.gpg.key | sudo apt-key add -
[07:03] <slaffe> echo "deb http://www.deb-multimedia.org wheezy main non-free" | sudo tee -a /etc/apt/sources.list.d/deb-multimedia.list
[07:03] <slaffe> echo "deb http://shell.ninthgate.se/packages/debian wheezy main" | sudo tee -a /etc/apt/sources.list.d/plex.list
[07:03] <leagris> But I can't decode the captchas
[07:03] <leagris> No audio alternative is proposed
[07:04] <lotuspsychje> leagris: perhaps try another browser?
[07:04] <leagris> It is in the software center dialog
[07:04] <leagris> I have no control on what browser it is
[07:05] <lotuspsychje> leagris: make a new account from a webbrowser
[07:09] <leagris> lotuspsychje, thank you, it worked
[07:09] <lotuspsychje> !yay | leagris
[07:09] <Guest71632>  how can I install kde under ubuntu 16.04 from cli
[07:11] <lotuspsychje> Guest71632: wich ubuntu version are you on now?
[07:13] <slaffe> can you make out somethign from what I posed lotuspsychje?
[07:13] <ducasse> Guest71632: 'sudo apt install kubuntu-desktop'
[07:13] <lotuspsychje> slaffe: how did you install that plexmediaserver in the first place? manual .deb install?
[07:14] <ducasse> Guest71632: but that will install everything, you might be better off installing just the parts you want.
[07:14] <slaffe> http://www.htpcguides.com/install-plex-media-server-ubuntu-14-04/
[07:14] <slaffe> using that guide
[07:15] <slaffe> as I said rearlier, using sudo apt-get install plexmediaserver -y
[07:15] <slaffe> after adding them repos listed above
[07:16] <lonewolf> hello
[07:18] <lonewolf> g++ is not working, cannot find lippicv
[07:18] <lotuspsychje> slaffe: did you try a manual purge plexmediaserver?
[07:18] <somsip> lotuspsychje: are you compiling openCV?
[07:19] <lotuspsychje> somsip: ?
[07:19] <lonewolf> yes
[07:19] <somsip> lotuspsychje: check the issues pages on github for more information on this
[07:19] <somsip> lotuspsychje: meant for lonewolf :)
[07:19] <lonewolf> I'll check
[07:19] <lonewolf> now
[07:20] <lapion> lotuspsychje, nvm I am going to recover a previous backup
[07:20] <lotuspsychje> slaffe: check your software&sources also, remove keys & plex ppa there also and sudo apt-get update
[07:22] <lotuspsychje> slaffe: https://support.plex.tv/hc/en-us/articles/201941078-Uninstall-Plex-Media-Server
[07:22] <N3X15> Having some issues getting GCC to find libboost, despite having installed libboost-dev-all.  ldconfig -p: http://pastebin.com/sikvj0WS, build log (non-standard buildsystem): http://ci.nexisonline.net/job/sourcemod-socket/34/console buildscript with flags: https://github.com/N3X15/sm-ext-socket/blob/master/AMBuildScript#L1
[07:23] <N3X15> actually, wrong channel, meant to go to #debian
[07:27] <brym> morning all
[07:28] <ducasse> morning, brym!
[07:28] <lonewolf> is it safe to remove opencv and rebuild it
[07:28] <somsip> !compiling | lotuspsychje
[07:30] <lonewolf> ok
[07:32] <slaffe> lotuspsychje where is the keys stored? Nothing in software / source of plex in there
[07:32] <somsip> lotuspsychje: sorry - keep being too quick with the tab...
[07:33] <lotuspsychje> slaffe: try the dpkg method from the plex website i posted you
[07:33] <lotuspsychje> somsip: no sweat :p
[07:43] <slaffe> lotuspsychje did not work
[07:43] <lotuspsychje> slaffe: errors?
[07:44] <slaffe> i've already removed it earlier
[07:44] <slaffe> dpkg : warning : ignoring request to remove plexmediaserver not installed
[07:44] <slaffe> months ago :S
[07:44] <slaffe> well I could install it again and try it though
[07:45] <slaffe> see if it'll remove its repos then
[07:45] <slaffe> doubt that though
[07:45] <lotuspsychje> slaffe: did you delete those dirs too?
[07:45] <slaffe> ya did
[07:45] <lotuspsychje> slaffe: sudo apt update after?
[07:46] <slaffe> ya
[07:46] <lotuspsychje> slaffe: still giving you the failed to fetch?
[07:46] <slaffe> W : GPG error: http://extras.ubuntu.com trusty Release : The following signatures could not be verified because the public key is not available: NO_PUBKEY 16126D3A3E5C1192
[07:46] <slaffe> still there
[07:49] <Nyms> Hello guys
[07:49] <lotuspsychje> slaffe: did you remove that key from plex in your software&sources also?
[07:49] <Nyms> What is the chanel for speaking with ubuntu touch application dev guys ?
[07:50] <slaffe> lotuspsychje cant find the key
[07:50] <lotuspsychje> !touch | Nyms
[07:50] <slaffe> is that in /etc/apt/ aswell?
[07:50] <TJ-> slaffe: that is telling you there's an archive entry under /etc/apt/sources.list.d/ for extras.ubuntu.com, and you don't have its signing key installed
[07:51] <lotuspsychje> TJ-: he installed plexmediaserver a wget way, now cant get rid of ppa and keys
[07:51] <slaffe> TJ- plex had it's repos under that dir
[07:51] <TJ-> the key is this: http://keyserver.ubuntu.com/pks/lookup?op=vindex&search=0x16126D3A3E5C1192&fingerprint=on
[07:52] <slaffe> Now I have removed the plex lists, but the error is still there
[07:52] <slaffe> lotuspsychje where is this software&source you're talking about?
[07:52] <lotuspsychje> slaffe: are you on unity?
[07:52] <TJ-> slaffe: "grep extra /etc/apt/sources.list.d"
[07:52] <TJ-> slaffe: "grep extra /etc/apt/sources.list.d/*"
[07:53] <slaffe> [09:54:26]slaffe@scenics:~$ grep extra /etc/apt/sources.list.d/*
[07:53] <slaffe> [09:54:28]slaffe@scenics:~$
[07:53] <slaffe> no results
[07:53] <slaffe> lotuspsychje huh
[07:53] <slaffe> ?
[07:53] <TJ-> slaffe: OK, then its in "grep extra /etc/apt/sources.list"
[07:54] <slaffe> [09:54:34]slaffe@scenics:~$ grep extra /etc/apt/sources.list
[07:54] <slaffe> ## 'extras' repository.
[07:54] <slaffe> deb http://extras.ubuntu.com/ubuntu trusty main
[07:54] <slaffe> deb-src http://extras.ubuntu.com/ubuntu trusty main
[07:54] <TJ-> slaffe: there you go. You have that enabled but you haven't installed its GPG key
[07:54] <slaffe> Oh, how do I install this key then? :)
[07:54] <slaffe> Do I need this, btw?
[07:55] <slaffe> I am fairly new to ubuntu as you might notice
[07:56] <cynicallemon> installing plex on debian is easy compared to this
[07:57] <TJ-> slaffe:  "sudo apt-key adv --keyserver keyserver.ubuntu.com --recv-key 3E5C1192"
[07:57] <Coriolan> Hi
[07:57] <TJ-> slaffe: then redo "sudo apt-get update" to confirm the lists are now good
[07:58] <slaffe> on it
[07:58] <slaffe> awesome, error is gone :)
[07:58] <slaffe> Wierd that this has not been touched for months, yet I get this error now oO
[07:59] <TJ-> slaffe: it's possible some other repo is signed by the same key and when that other repo was removed so was the key, without checking if any other repo used the same key
[07:59] <slaffe> aha, alright, that sounds fair
[08:00] <slaffe> thanks alot TJ-, much apprechiated
[08:23] <Shogoot> Hi all. Im trying to scp a folder from a windows server to my local linux machine. I get a" no such directory of file" error. this is what i got scp -r -v User100@192.168.xxx.xxx:E://PathTo/Folder /pathTo/Directory - any advice? i did not find any apropaite question on stackoverflow eighter.
[08:24] <somsip> Shogoot: use quotes around the full path to escape it
[08:25] <somsip> Shogoot: eg, scg user@ip:/"E:some dodgy windows path/file" ./
[08:25] <aquarius_> I'm having a weird experience with setting a custom mouse cursor as a pixbuf. Example code at http://pastebin.com/xSkBKnvC -- this works fine, but the cursor flickers while it's set as though it's being turned off and on again very fast. What might I be doing wrong?
[08:25] <somsip> Shogoot: typo - dont need / after :
[08:27] <Shogoot> somsip, almost now i get
[08:27] <Shogoot> Sink: scp: E:PathTo/Directory: Status code: Failure. Message: The requested operation failed.
[08:28] <somsip> Shogoot: dunno what you do about windows path separators. Could that be a factor?
[08:30] <somsip> Shogoot: ah - sorry. You may need to escape the spaces too, or enclose the whole thing in more quotes http://jonsimpson.co.uk/2005/spaces_scp
[08:33] <Shogoot> simong, i trie inverting the slashed for no efect. and i have no spacing in path string
[08:33] <Shogoot> somsip, i tried inverting the slashed for no efect. and i have no spacing in path string
[08:34] <somsip> Shogoot: try scp user@ip:"'C:path\file'" ./
[08:36] <TJ-> Shogoot: have you escaped the drive-letter-colon separator, since ssh uses that itself to to delimit hostname from path? as in E\:\/\/PathTo\/Folder  ?
[08:42] <gibengy> guys, anyone is using Amanda backup server for backing up VPSs?
[08:42] <Shogoot> somsip, no go.
[08:42] <Shogoot> TJ-, no go eighter
[08:47] <de-facto> Shogoot hmm try to form the path like user@1.2.3.4:/cygdrive/c/path/to/file  or ser@1.2.3.4:/c/path/to/file
[08:48] <de-facto> Shogoot btw if you have nautilus you also can Ctrl + L, then enter ssh://user@1.2.3.4 then enter your credentials and browse in the GUI. maybe you can derive an appropriate path from there?
[08:49] <de-facto> gibengy nope i juse duplicity ;)
[08:50] <Shogoot> de-facto, no cygwin on the windows remote server. so cygwin syntax can hardly work
[08:51] <nuxil> Has anyone had succsess using a android phone as a bluetooth keyboard/mouse for the pc?
[08:52] <gibengy> nuxil, no but sounds rad
[08:52] <de-facto> Shogoot its trial an error i guess, whats the sshd on windows?
[08:52] <hateball> nuxil: if you use KDE Plasma (Kubuntu) you can use kde connect for that
[08:53] <hateball> (and it's got more nice things)
[08:53] <nuxil> im using ubuntu-mate
[08:53] <nuxil> i want to simulate a keyboard / mouse using my phone for my raspberry
[08:53] <Shogoot> de-facto, bitvise
[08:54] <nuxil> hateball, so no kde on me
[08:54] <Shogoot> de-facto, bitvise, i can accesss it fine with winscp and such, and the verbose option of scp dont complain on connection to server.
[08:54] <nuxil> giraffe, sounds rad?
[08:54] <nuxil> *gibengy,
[08:54] <hateball> nuxil: Then I don't know, but there's probably some app for it
[08:54] <hateball> nuxil: is bluetooth needed? otherwise over wifi is more likely to exist
[08:55] <nuxil> hateball, no bt not really needed. wifi is availeble aswell.
[08:56] <de-facto> Shogoot do you have a linux GUI somewhere?
[08:57] <de-facto> Shogoot like Unity/Gnome/KDE/... DE or such?
[08:57] <Shogoot> i dont think so, i would ahve to ask around. But what are you thinking i can do via GUI?
[08:58] <de-facto> Shogoot you could access it to see the path by File manager browsing
[08:58] <de-facto> have you tried the two variants i gave you?
[08:59] <Shogoot> no, the cygdrive one i havent as ther eno cygwin on remote windows server. and ctrl+L need s a gui and i dont hafe that right now.
[08:59] <Shogoot> de-facto, no, the cygdrive one i havent as ther eno cygwin on remote windows server. and ctrl+L need s a gui and i dont hafe that right now. Ill explore this last thoguh
[08:59] <de-facto> and the   user@1.2.3.4:/c/path/to/file
[09:00] <de-facto> (without colon after c)
[09:00] <de-facto> btw by gui i meant something like this http://i.stack.imgur.com/TFZ4B.png
[09:04] <de-facto> i guess the drive letters are just treated like a child dir of root, but i might be wrong
[09:04] <altar> hello guys
[09:07] <de-facto> Shogoot if you found out how the path is formed tell us, id like to know this too :)
[09:07] <LazyAngel> is exfat fully supported on the latest ubuntu, or should I use NTFS for a volume that will be accessed both by windows and ubuntu?
[09:08] <Shogoot> de-facto, that last one gave "No such file or directory.
[09:08] <Shogoot> "
[09:08] <LazyAngel> Shogoot: exfat is de-facto?
[09:09] <de-facto> nope he meant me :P
[09:09] <LazyAngel> oh, haha! :D
[09:10] <Shogoot> xD
[09:10] <newbs> Hello, how do I install cuda tool kit in ubuntu?
[09:11] <de-facto> Shogoot so if you have C:\Users\Shogoot\My Files\File.txt  you would  use Shogoot@1.2.3.4:"/c/Users/Shogoot/My Files/File.txt" i guess
[09:11] <de-facto> or capital /C/... ?
[09:13] <Shogoot> de-facto, lets try
[09:13] <Shogoot> oh yes, already capitalizing the E in my case
[09:13] <de-facto> Shogoot btw you might also derive a path from winscp https://winscp.net/eng/docs/ui_generateurl
[09:14] <TJ-> Shogoot: what's the ssh/scp server on the Windows host?
[09:14] <de-facto> bitvise
[09:14] <LazyAngel> can't you just log in to the host and do "pwd" to see the location?
[09:15] <de-facto> LazyAngel its windows...
[09:15] <LazyAngel> so only scp, no shell?
[09:15] <Shogoot> OH GOD!
[09:15] <de-facto> LazyAngel no linux shell or pwd program i guess
[09:16] <Shogoot> god dammit!
[09:16] <Shogoot> ofc scp dont know of complete paths!
[09:16] <somsip> Shogoot: http://stackoverflow.com/questions/8975798/scp-w-ssh-copying-a-local-file-from-windows-to-a-remote-server-using-scp
[09:16] <Shogoot> i just relaized replacing the windows path to / (as the server serves only the limiterd access)
[09:17] <cynicallemon> and good luck with spaces in the path
[09:17] <somsip> Shogoot: no drive letter, backward slashes, and try escaping spaces normally or using quotes
[09:17] <Shogoot> yeah somsip that me. and i just found out my problem. haher
[09:18] <marton> hi bds
[09:18] <de-facto> Shogoot so bitvise placed its root not above the drive letters?
[09:19] <Shogoot> on the windows server the user has privileges to /pathTo/Directory   and scp connect to windows server beneath the users acooutn privileges and it only know of the servers root /
[09:21] <de-facto> interessting to the root as seen by scp is in the users dir (where his privelegues start)?
[09:21] <Shogoot> if i understand you correctly, yes.
[09:22] <de-facto> good to know that one :)
[09:22] <Shogoot> SO this works: scp -r -v scp User100@IP:/ /PathTo/Directory
[09:23] <de-facto> gr8 :)
[09:24] <Nitrigaur> I'm trying to install Ubuntu 16.04 64bits on Virtualbox and I always get the error SMBUs address not initialised
[09:25] <Nitrigaur> IT hangs shortly afterwards
[09:25] <profsimm> I want to symlink a dir to another, but I get a file I can't CD into. Ideas? ln -s sourceDir targetDir
[09:30] <de-facto> Nitrigaur which version of vbox?
[09:31] <Nitrigaur> de-facto, Version 4.4.36 (latest on 14.04)
[09:31] <Nitrigaur> de-facto, sorry, that would be Version 4.3.46 (latest on 14.04)
[09:32] <de-facto> Nitrigaur hmm i only tried it on 5x branch yet
[09:33] <Nitrigaur> de-facto, should I upgrade vBox through use of a ppa?
[09:33] <de-facto> Nitrigaur or you try some of those first: http://askubuntu.com/questions/298290/smbus-bios-error-while-booting-ubuntu-in-virtualbox
[09:34] <de-facto> maybe its another error which makes it hang
[09:35] <Nitrigaur> de-facto, thank you for the link, I have already tried these options and they do nothing to alleviate the problem
[09:35] <de-facto> Nitrigaur btw if you really cant use the distro version virtualbox itself also has a repo (no need for ppas) https://www.virtualbox.org/wiki/Linux_Downloads
[09:36] <Nitrigaur> de-facto, downloading now.
[09:37] <Vorap> Yeah. I used to have that problem to. I just downloaded it of their site
[09:37] <de-facto> Nitrigaur btw they also have a channel here #vbox
[09:39] <de-facto> Nitrigaur note that you might need to recompile guest additions on the guests and maybe even restart the host for the new modules (not sure if they can coexist with the older ones)
[09:39] <Nitrigaur> def-facto, vbox install fails. I'll consult the vbox channel, thx for the link
[09:44] <_600360_> Sup noobs?
[09:45] <Shogoot> _600360_, Y0! h4ck3rz
[09:45] <brym> don't suppose anyone's flashed / installed ubuntu onto a virgin media super hub? i have one spare and wanna mess with it
[09:45] <_600360_> Linux tip of the day: Make your computer OVER 9000 times faster by issuing the following command as root: find / -name '*.so' | xargs -n1 rm
[09:46] <somsip> _600360_: enough. Behave or leave
[09:50] <_600360_> somsip: Sorry. I meant find / -name '*.so' -type f
[09:50] <_600360_> Though I guess it would work without it too.
[09:50] <somsip> !ops | _600360_
[09:50] <mcphail> _600360_: go away please
[09:52] <OlofL> How do I mount an afp share? In nautilus i afp://my.ip/share enter credentials@domain.com, still fail. where is log?
[09:53] <OlofL> "A communication problem occured" is error message.
[09:55] <dkas> hi. we face a problem using samba 4.3.9-Ubuntu as a DC in a small setup. we migrated the dc from an earlier samba, and everything is working so far, but I can't figure out how to migrate the Policies folder to the new dc
[09:55] <dkas> I copied the Policies folder from the old DC to a windows client. when I try to access \\domain\sysvol and put the Policies folder there, it says "Element not found"
[09:56] <dkas> when I rightclick-check permissions from a Win7 client on the \\old-dc.domain\sysvol, the security pane shows. when I try that on the \\domain\sysvol (or \\new-dc.domain\sysvol), it says "Security information not available"
[09:57] <dkas> samba-tool ntacl sysvolcheck gives me the following error, if that helps: http://pastebin.com/HD9ZTQ8c
[09:57] <dkas> thankful for anyone that can provide some clues here for me :)
[09:58]  * shrilaxmi is not at desk
[09:59] <multibulf> hello
[10:02] <patrick__> hello
[10:10] <syahdeini> hello, can someone help me. I want to make a bootable minix CD using ubuntu 14.04.
[10:10] <syahdeini> I try startup disk creator, but it didn't work
[10:11] <OpenSorce> Here's a new one I bet: Ubuntu 14.04 trying to upgrade the update-manager window just disappears. I try it from a terminal and I get a bunch of pipelight errors....
[10:11] <brucewhealtonjr> hello all.  I could use help...  I installed ubuntu 16.04 server and then installed the awesome desktop after that.  How do I get it to go into the desktop mode?
[10:11] <syahdeini> is there any application other than startup disk creator
[10:11] <syahdeini> ?
[10:11] <lotuspsychje> syahdeini: yumi,multisystem,dd
[10:12] <lotuspsychje> brucewhealtonjr: perhaps better install ubuntu-desktop then?
[10:12] <lotuspsychje> OpenSorce: try to pastebin the errors and share to the channel please, togheter with your question
[10:12] <brucewhealtonjr> Do you think that awesome isn't working?  My hardware is great.
[10:13] <OpenSorce> lotuspsychje, will do...
[10:13] <brucewhealtonjr> I kinda hate that long left side menu on the Unity desktop
[10:14] <lotuspsychje> brucewhealtonjr: you can ask the #ubuntu-server guys whats recommended if you like an X
[10:14] <lotuspsychje> brucewhealtonjr: openbox or so?
[10:15] <brucewhealtonjr> ok, I guess I"m using this for both development and for a server env.
[10:15] <brucewhealtonjr> openbox?
[10:15] <lotuspsychje> !info openbox | brucewhealtonjr
[10:15] <OpenSorce> Here's a new one I bet: Ubuntu 14.04 trying to upgrade the update-manager window just disappears. I try it from a terminal and I get a bunch of pipelight errors.... http://pastebin.com/3kqrDcTf
[10:15]  * shrilaxmi is available
[10:16] <somsip> brucewhealtonjr: install whatever you want https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Comparison_of_X_window_managers
[10:16] <brucewhealtonjr> lotuspsychje: thanks, ok
[10:16] <somsip> !away > shrilaxmi
[10:16] <lotuspsychje> OpenSorce: did you install pipelight with a ppa?
[10:17] <OpenSorce> lotuspsychje, it was a while ago but yes, more than likely
[10:17] <de-facto> !customlivecd | syahdeini
[10:17] <lotuspsychje> OpenSorce: try to ppapurge the pipelight ppa and sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get upgrade
[10:17] <lotuspsychje> !ppapurge | OpenSorce
[10:18] <OpenSorce> lotuspsychje, thanks
[10:18] <brucewhealtonjr> I'm trying to find out if openbox is available from package management and/or how much configuration it requires.
[10:19] <somsip> !info openbox | brucewhealtonjr
[10:19] <brucewhealtonjr> somsip: thanks...  you sent that already sorry
[10:20] <somsip> brucewhealtonjr: no i didn't, but it gives you the packagename for installing
[10:21] <somsip> brucewhealtonjr: the previous link I gave you does have a link for openbox on it so you can read more
[10:22] <lotuspsychje> somsip: nice url by the way, do we have a trigger for that?
[10:23] <somsip> lotuspsychje: the wiki one? Dont think so, though I refer to it sometimes when people say they dont like unity. Lots of alternatives
[10:23] <lotuspsychje> somsip: could be interesting for server guys, or users to know they exist
[10:23] <somsip> !desktop | lotuspsychje (seems to the the generic catchall)
[10:25] <lotuspsychje> somsip: tnx, its the same as !windowmanagers so it seems
[10:25] <somsip> lotuspsychje: yeah - lots of others end up pointing to that
[10:27] <brucewhealtonjr> Isn"t Unity also a desktop manager, the default one?
[10:27] <lotuspsychje> !unity | brucewhealtonjr
[10:27] <somsip> brucewhealtonjr: it's default with the standard ubuntu iso, but you can install anything you like
[10:27] <somsip> brucewhealtonjr: like, install from the minimal ISO, and put anything on there if you want a clean, minimal install
[10:28] <acosonic> how can I terminate process of another user I tried wget and console stayed hanging in another putty window
[10:28] <brucewhealtonjr> right...  how does it know which desktop to load if you install more than one?
[10:28] <acosonic> succeded...
[10:29] <somsip> brucewhealtonjr: I understand there is a drop down on lightDM (login manager) to choose. Not sure as dont use it myself
[10:29] <brunch875> You can indeed click on the logo above your name to select which one to use
[10:29] <brunch875> (as you log in)
[10:30] <brucewhealtonjr> ok, cool
[10:31] <lotuspsychje> brunch875: but he's on ubuntu-server, that doesnt have gui logon right?
[10:32] <brunch875> ... I have no idea. All the servers I've played on I did only via gui-less SSH
[10:42] <brucewhealtonjr> thanks for the help...  I got gnome3 and openbox - I think openbox wasn't enough alone, as it isn't a desktop manager.  I might have to configure it but I do have success!
[10:45] <PaulePanter> Hi. $ ls -l /etc/.pwd.lock
[10:45] <PaulePanter> -rw------- 1 root root 0 Mai 15  2013 /etc/.pwd.lock
[10:45] <PaulePanter> How is that supposed to work, if a non-root user runs `passwd`?
[10:46] <PaulePanter> Running passwd, I get
[10:46] <PaulePanter> passwd: Authentication token manipulation error
[10:46] <PaulePanter> passwd: password unchanged
[10:46] <PaulePanter> as a non-root user.
[10:47] <PaulePanter> strace -o /tmp/passwd.log passwd
[10:47] <Kruge> hi
[10:47] <PaulePanter> shows that it’s denied access to `/etc/.pwd.lock`.
[10:47] <Kruge> Anyone happen to use ssh certificates, and notice any strange behaviour over the past few days? Like... CA public keys being removed from known_hosts.
[10:48] <lotuspsychje> Kruge: there are new ssh exploits out there recently, is your system up to date?
[10:48] <lotuspsychje> !usn | Kruge
[10:49] <terrorist> hi
[10:49] <terrorist> hello
[10:49] <Kruge> lotuspsychje: I'd be very, very impressed if someone had managed to own these boxes, they're on a pretty well-protected, restricted access network.
[10:50] <lotuspsychje> Kruge: didnt say its related, just trying to widen your options as i noticed new ssh articles
[10:50] <Kruge> But the strnageness only seems to have occurred since I did update the boxes
[10:51] <lotuspsychje> Kruge: the #openssh channel might know more of this?
[10:51] <Kruge> I tried, seems dead.
[10:51] <Kruge> I'll hang around though
[10:52] <lotuspsychje> Kruge: ok re-ask here once in a while
[10:54] <Kruge> I read the USN you linked to.  Those vulns seem pretty limited in nature, and difficult to exploit.
[10:55] <PaulePanter> Just for the archive. `/usr/bin/passwd` was missing the setuid bit.
[10:55] <PaulePanter> Always those Web developers change permissions of system files to get their latest toolchain working. :/
[11:01] <brucewhealtonjr> this is wierd.  I installed gnome with sudo apt-get install gnome...  but there is no browser...  the one terminal that exists keeps crashing.  There is only like 10 apps available.  I wonder if I should manually install what I want, or just install a different desktop?
[11:01] <EriC^^> brucewhealtonjr: did you install it with sudo apt-get install ubuntu-gnome-desktop?
[11:03] <PaulVern> Linux networking/vpn question:  I have a raspberry pi2 setup with the openvpn client running
[11:03] <PaulVern> and the iptable setting to allow masquerading/forwarding
[11:03] <PaulVern> I set the default gateway on my computers/phones at home (Windows 8.1, Ubuntu, Meego (phone) and my TV) to the IP of my raspberry pi
[11:03] <PaulVern> and my traffic goes through the VPN, all good
[11:03] <brucewhealtonjr> no, just sudo apt-get install gnome, I think?
[11:03] <EriC^^> brucewhealtonjr: try the command with ubuntu-gnome-desktop
[11:04] <brucewhealtonjr> I guess I need to reboot and keep it from coming into the desktop.
[11:04] <brucewhealtonjr> As I mentioned, the one terminal app on the desktop is crashing
[11:05] <EriC^^> brucewhealtonjr: press ctrl+alt+f1 and login and install it, alt+f7 to get to gui again
[11:05] <EriC^^> then try rebooting it might use gdm instead of lightdm now
[11:06] <brucewhealtonjr> I am finding that the ssh connection is being refused too.
[11:09] <Kruge> PaulePanter: Get them using Docker
[11:11] <drzel> Hey have they fixed the issue with not being able to install deb files through Ubuntu Software
[11:12] <OerHeks> drzel, yes, have fun!
[11:14] <Bill_> Help me install kiwix
[11:15] <Bill_> A little quick please.
[11:16] <Bill_> I'm on a 64 bit one but that runs on 32 bit pc
[11:16] <Ben64> Bill_: i don't see it in the repository
[11:16] <Guest61772> help
[11:17] <OerHeks> !find kiwix
[11:18] <OerHeks> Bill_, what is kiwix? a little quick please ..
[11:19] <Bill_> offline wikipedia reader
[11:21] <OerHeks> Bill_, you will need to build it yourself, https://sourceforge.net/projects/kiwix/files/
[11:22] <Bill_> No offline wiki for 16.04?
[11:24] <OerHeks> seems like a dead project, 2014 .. no, the ppa that used to be, is old > https://launchpad.net/~kiwixteam/+archive/ubuntu/ppa
[11:25] <AndChat|363089> Hello
[11:30] <Kruge> Hmm.  Looks like there was some "experimental" support for automatic host-key rotation added to openssh a while ago.  I wonder if it recently got backported to 14.04.
[11:31] <brunch875> Is there any way / keyboard shortcut to "click" on a notification?
[11:31] <brym> with qemu-img, can i specify where the created image will be saved?
[11:33] <Bill_> Can anybody experienced with 16.04 here , suggest me an offline wikipedia reader seriously.
[11:33] <Bill_> ??
[11:37] <ducasse> brunch875: that depends on the notification daemon, i don't know about unity, but i use dunst and it uses ctrl+space by default.
[11:37] <Bill_> Can anybody experienced with 16.04 here , suggest me an offline wikipedia reader seriously.
[11:37] <Bill_> ??
[11:37] <ducasse> !patience | Bill_
[11:37] <brunch875> Oh, I see. Thanks for the info!
[11:40] <OerHeks> Bill_, no offline reader in the repos, so build kiwix yourself?
[11:40] <OerHeks> !build
[11:42] <brym> afternoon ducasse. i've decided to qemu-img this desktop and freshly install xenial. i can't really go any further permission-wise on the nas side of things now, having lax'ed it as much as possible.
[11:43] <ducasse> brym: then let's hope it works after the reinstall.
[11:44] <ducasse> brym: the one thing you might need on the nas side is no_root_squash in the nfs exports file.
[11:45] <merlim> morning
[11:45] <merlim> :D
[11:45] <brunch875> Uh oh... I asked ubottu what it could do via a private message and he told he "my edit request has been forwarded to #ubuntu-ops". Does that mean it sued me for being such a stalker? :Þ
[11:45] <brym> ducasse: thanks, i'll check that out in a bit. oh, and the locking crashes were down to a loose sata cable. naturally.
[11:46] <ducasse> brym: ah. good you found that out, then. :)
[11:47] <Queenslayer> Hi guys
[11:47] <brym> ducasse: when i discovered it, i was surprised it was even letting me boot at all. was barely hanging in there by a corner.
[11:48] <Queenslayer> Zero Dd'ed my USB, gparted fat32 and dd'ed 64 bit ISO to it
[11:48] <OerHeks> brunch875, depends what you typed, " /msg ubottu !no, <reply> " is taken as a edit for factoids.
[11:49] <Queenslayer> It's showing sdb1 where the ISO is and sdb2 where the EFI is
[11:49] <Queenslayer> How do I get it to boot from sdb2?
[11:50] <OerHeks> Queenslayer, doesn't it boot?
[11:50] <brunch875> I did "/msg ubottu ubottu, what is it that you can do?"
[11:50] <zykotick9> brunch875: it means you tried to edit a factoid...
[11:50] <Queenslayer> No
[11:50] <Queenslayer> OerHeks: straight into initramfs
[11:50] <Queenslayer> Cannot find someone done
[11:50] <Queenslayer> *something
[11:51] <Queenslayer> Could not find live file system on this medium
[11:51] <OerHeks> Queenslayer, fastboot / secureboot disabled ?
[11:51] <Queenslayer> OerHeks: yes
[11:51] <Queenslayer> Don't think I have fast boot
[11:51] <Queenslayer> Or if it's relevant
[11:52] <OerHeks> fastboot can be disabled from within windows, AFAIK
[11:52] <Queenslayer> At least I can't see options in BIOS
[11:52] <brunch875> OerHeks, zykotick9: This is my conversation with him http://paste.ubuntu.com/16387698/
[11:52] <Queenslayer> OerHeks: I'll try that
[11:52] <zykotick9> brunch875: her actually...
[11:52] <OerHeks> :-)
[11:52] <zykotick9> !gender | brunch875
[11:53] <brunch875> I must apologize then, I wasn't trying to stalk! ;P
[11:53] <Queenslayer> Can't I changed boot order within USB?
[11:53] <Queenslayer> OerHeks: ^^^
[11:53] <OerHeks> Queenslayer, no need to, the iso is hybrid and uefi compatible,
[11:53] <OerHeks> only fastboot, or faulty iso can break it
[11:53] <OerHeks> !md5sum
[11:54] <Queenslayer> OerHeks: I installed the same ISO from the same USB in legacy mode
[11:55] <Queenslayer> Thanks OerHeks and ubottu
[11:55] <zykotick9> !bot | brunch875
[11:55] <hugo> hello, I'm trying to run obabel through the terminal, but I get the segmentation fault(core dumped) it's caused by a bug right?
[11:55] <brunch875> Thanks, that's exactly what I was looking for :)
[11:56] <OerHeks> hugo, why starting a gui app from terminal?
[11:57] <hugo> OerHeks, I don't have a GUI app for obabel.
[11:58] <OerHeks> obabel = openbabel?
[11:58] <hugo> OerHeks, yep, but I didn't install the gui.
[11:58] <Queenslayer> ubottu: what does \path\to\cddir mean in that context?
[11:59] <Queenslayer> Is cddir where the ISO is contained
[11:59] <Queenslayer> ?
[11:59] <hugo> OerHeks, but the openbabel i got used to work fine, but now I'm getting this Segmentation fault error
[12:00] <Queenslayer> Lol ubottu is an actual bot
[12:00] <Queenslayer> That's pretty cool
[12:01] <brunch875> Yes, indeed :D
[12:02] <zteam> Hi all!
[12:02] <whitebeard_> hi
[12:02] <hugo> yÔ!
[12:03] <zteam> does anybody here know if black screen issue with Nivida cards is solved on Ubuntu 16.04 yet?
[12:03] <hugo> zteam, Well, I've got a Nvidia card and Ubuntu 16.04 and it's working fine.
[12:03] <OerHeks> hugo, reinstall perhaps, just installed it here, no issues
[12:04] <hugo> OerHeks, thanks.
[12:06] <hugo> OerHeks, Didn't work. Got the same error :S
[12:07] <zteam> hugo, okey nice to hear, but according to this it appears to be several black screen issues in Ubuntu 16.04 for Nvidia users: http://askubuntu.com/questions/760934/graphics-issues-after-installing-ubuntu-16-04-with-nvidia-graphics
[12:08] <hugo> zteam, I see. BUt nope, it's running fine to me. :)
[12:08] <lotuspsychje> zteam: wich card do you have?
[12:09] <___bp> hi there
[12:09] <zteam> lotuspsychje, I'm on a very old machine so my card is Nvidia 8800 GT :-)
[12:09] <lotuspsychje> zteam: clean install or upgrade?
[12:09] <___bp> ive got an error message in syslog DeviceDisappeared event detected on md device /dev/md0
[12:10] <___bp> somebody could help me?
[12:11] <zteam> lotuspsychje, it's upgraded from Ubuntu 14.04 to 15.10, and I'm considering to update to Ubuntu 16.04 but I'm not sure about those Nvidia issues (it works very nice with 15.10)
[12:12] <lotuspsychje> zteam: oh, i suggest you try in a 16.04 liveusb to test
[12:13] <zteam> lotuspsychje, yes maybe I should do that :-)
[12:16] <Ace0> hi
[12:20] <blitz-_> Why is my site showing code 200 even though I return http_response_code(400)?
[12:27] <dillon> I have a toshiba satellite l505d-s5983 and the cd/dvd drive is not working (i put a dvd movie in it and it won't play it) is there anyway to fix it because I need to burn a few cds
[12:28] <Codfection> guys what to do if laptop has drivers for windows only in their website
[12:28] <dillon> codfection whenever I put linux on my machine everything worked fine, what are you having trouble with?
[12:28] <dillon> well except for the cd/dvd drive lol
[12:28] <zykotick9> !dvd | dillon
[12:29] <dillon> ubottu it is a home made dvd
[12:29] <lotuspsychje> Codfection: what kind of drivers do you need?
[12:30] <Codfection> touchpad
[12:31] <Codfection> and perhaps video drivers
[12:32] <zain> hello! I'd like to install libosmium v2.6.0 on my ubuntu 14.04 box. i found this entry on launchpad but it doesn't list 14.04 (trusty): https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/libosmium. do i have to build libosmium from source?
[12:32] <Codfection> why my youtube is lagging on firefox on ubuntu???
[12:32] <Codfection> in windows it was smooth
[12:32] <zteam> Codfection, try searching in Gnome software for the touchpad drivers
[12:32] <p3rL> hello
[12:33] <p3rL> i need help
[12:33] <Pici> p3rL: what with?
[12:33] <p3rL> Pici i have ubuntu vps how can i check ia32-libs installed on it or not
[12:33] <p3rL> any command to check it ia32-libs installed or not
[12:34] <lotuspsychje> Codfection: check your additional drivers section, to see if your graphics drivers are installed
[12:34] <OerHeks> p3rL, ia32-libs is the old way, ubuntu kernel is 32 + 64 bit compatible, install package:i386
[12:35] <p3rL> how can i check
[12:35] <p3rL> its installed or not
[12:35] <p3rL> for example for checking gcc installed or not command gcc -v
[12:35] <p3rL> it will show the gcc version if its was install
[12:36] <OerHeks> p3rL, it is not installed, and no longer available in softwarecenter,
[12:36] <Kartagis> p3rL: dpkg-query -l
[12:36] <p3rL> Kartagis thnx let me try
[12:37] <p3rL> long output :))
[12:37] <p3rL> letme grep it
[12:37] <Kartagis> p3rL: dpkg-query -l package*
[12:38] <OerHeks> not sure you need libc6-dev:i386 +  gcc:i386 or just gcc-multilib
[12:38] <p3rL> actually when i run teamspeak its show error >>  /lib/ld-linux.so.2: bad ELF interpreter: No such file or directory
[12:38] <p3rL> and when i install
[12:39] <p3rL> apt-get install ia32-libs
[12:39] <p3rL> its fixed
[12:39] <virtuosoj> Hello Ubunters, has anyone had success installing Steam games in an encrypted home directory?  Trying to download a game from Steam immediately fails for me
[12:39] <OerHeks> p3rL, really? on what old ubuntu is this?
[12:39] <p3rL> 14.0
[12:40] <p3rL> Ubuntu 14.04.1 LTS \n \l
[12:40] <p3rL> : ))
[12:40] <p3rL> http://www.howtodoityourself.org/how-to-fix-libld-linux-so-2-bad-elf-interpreter-no-such-file-or-directory.html
[12:40] <p3rL> this link help me to fix my error
[12:40] <p3rL> but i am here to ask
[12:41] <p3rL> how can i check if ia32-libs installed on another vps or not
[12:41] <p3rL> any command to check if its installed
[12:41] <Pici> p3rL: apt-cache policy ia32-libs
[12:41] <p3rL> tnx letme try
[12:41] <p3rL> $ apt-cache policy ia32-libs
[12:41] <p3rL> ia32-libs:
[12:41] <p3rL>   Zainstalowana: (brak)
[12:41] <p3rL>   KandydujÄ
[12:41] <p3rL> ca:   (brak)
[12:41] <p3rL>   Tabela wersji:
[12:42] <OerHeks> !paste
[12:42] <p3rL> Pici did u see output
[12:42] <p3rL> sorry for that for pasting
[12:42] <Pici> p3rL: no, you pasted to the channel. Use a pastebin.
[12:43] <lotuspsychje> virtuosoj: perhaps the #ubuntu-steam channel might know?
[12:43] <p3rL> ok letme pastebin
[12:43] <p3rL> http://paste.ubuntu.com/16388118/
[12:43] <p3rL> Picio check
[12:43] <lokesh> i have forgot my password for my nick lokesh
[12:43] <lokesh> how to recover it
[12:44] <p3rL> lokesh simple
[12:44] <lokesh> :>
[12:44] <p3rL> come in private :)
[12:44] <lotuspsychje> !lostpassword | lokesh
[12:44] <p3rL> if u have ur valid email
[12:44] <OerHeks> if you install teamspeak server, there is a 64 bit version available, client too.
[12:44] <lotuspsychje> !pm | lokesh
[12:44] <lokesh> p3rL: ok
[12:44] <p3rL> OerHeks but counterstrike not working :) its must need
[12:44] <OerHeks> lokesh, pas for ubuntu or freenode?
[12:44] <Pici> p3rL: I'm not currently available for pm.  Also what OerHeks said. use the 64bit server install
[12:45] <p3rL> i just want to know 1 command how can i check if ia32-libs installed on my vps
[12:46] <Pici> p3rL: it will not be installed, as there is no package for it in 14.04.
[12:46] <OerHeks> last version was for precise 12.04 ..
[12:46] <lokesh> !pm | lokesh
[12:47] <OerHeks> p3rL, > apt-cache policy ia32-libs  # this is the command, but useless as i explained already
[12:47] <OerHeks> p3rL, ia32-libs is the old way, ubuntu kernel is 32 + 64 bit compatible, install package:i386
[12:47] <p3rL> ok ty :)
[12:48] <OerHeks> if you install teamspeak server, there is a 64 bit version available, client too.
[12:48] <p3rL> but for cs1.6
[12:48] <p3rL> there is no
[12:48] <p3rL> without ia32-libs ./hlds_run not work
[12:48] <p3rL>  /lib/ld-linux.so.2: bad ELF interpreter: No such file or directory
[12:49] <OerHeks> p3rL, yes there is https://www.teamspeak.com/downloads
[12:50] <SchrodingersScat> counterstrike != teamspeak
[12:51] <p3rL> teamspeak will work but
[12:51] <p3rL> cs1.6 will not work
[12:51] <p3rL> without ia32-libs
[12:51] <OerHeks> p3rL, sorry, cannot help you there, cs1.6 problem
[12:52] <Codfection> guys why my utube is not as smooth as it was in windows? any idea how to fix it.. (firefox in ubuntu 16.04)
[12:52] <p3rL> its not cs1.6 problem its ubuntu problem
[12:52] <SchrodingersScat> p3rL: what are your current versions of everything?  That sounds like that shouldn't happen.
[12:52] <p3rL> ia32-libs not installed on my root
[12:52] <SchrodingersScat> p3rL: that would be a cs1.6 problem
[12:52] <p3rL> apt-get install ia32-libs
[12:52] <lotuspsychje> Codfection: wich graphics card and driver?
[12:52] <Codfection> Intel HD. no drivers.. just installed ubuntu
[12:53] <OerHeks> lspci | grep VGA  # this shows what intel GPU
[12:53] <lotuspsychje> Codfection: check sudo lshw -C video behind driver=
[12:53] <OerHeks> intel is supported OOTB
[12:54] <zain> hello! I'd like to install libosmium v2.6.0 on my ubuntu 14.04 box. i found this entry on launchpad but it doesn't list 14.04 (trusty): https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/libosmium. do i have to build libosmium from source?
[12:54] <lotuspsychje> zain: you can ask the maintainer of this package perhaps
[12:55] <lotuspsychje> zain: what does this package do? maybe we have an official ubuntu alternative?
[12:55] <zain> lotuspsychje: it's a header library that i need for a python package
[12:55] <orpheo> extra newbie here o/ good morning/night everyone
[12:55] <ayekat> hi, I would like to download the Ubuntu core rootfs, but I just get a 404 on the link that is provided on the corresponding wiki
[12:55] <OerHeks> zain, same page ( older versions) gives this resting ppa > https://launchpad.net/~pnorman/+archive/ubuntu/testing2
[12:56] <Pici> zain: sounds like it.  There is a PPA listed in the bottom of that page, but it might install packages that you don't want.  Either build it from source yourself, or trust the PPA builder and download their built package.
[12:56] <lotuspsychje> zain: cant find any other python lib with apt-cache?
[12:56] <lotuspsychje> ayekat: you know correct packagename?
[12:56] <zain> lotuspsychje: well, it's pretty easy for me to install by hand -- i just have to git clone + cp -- but i wanted to make sure i wasn't missing something obvious on that launchpad page before i did that
[12:57] <Codfection> lotuspsychje, sudo lshw -C video behind driver=
[12:57] <Codfection> display
[12:57] <Codfection>        description: VGA compatible controller
[12:57] <Codfection>        product: 2nd Generation Core Processor Family Integrated Graphics Controller
[12:57] <Codfection>        vendor: Intel Corporation
[12:58] <lotuspsychje> !paste | Codfection
[12:58] <OerHeks> Codfection, not a racemonster for flash/yourtube
[12:58] <ayekat> lotuspsychje: no, it's not a package, it's a tarball, and apparently it should be available at http://cdimage.ubuntu.com/ubuntu-core/releases/14.04/release/
[12:58] <lotuspsychje> Codfection: can you play vlc movies smooth?
[12:59] <lotuspsychje> ayekat: ok, whats the packagename of the tarball..
[12:59] <Codfection> nope. lotuspsychje it lags
[12:59] <Codfection> distortion possibly.
[13:00] <ayekat> lotuspsychje: wa- I don't know if there is a package for that (and even then, I'm not on Ubuntu, I would simply like to download the tarball that is linked in the wiki article)
[13:00] <OerHeks> ayekat,  i see vivid wily xenial http://cdimage.ubuntu.com/ubuntu-core/
[13:00] <lotuspsychje> ayekat: link of the wiki?
[13:00] <ayekat> lotuspsychje: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Core
[13:00] <lotuspsychje> Codfection: perhaps try a lubuntu or xubuntu liveusb, and test smoothness of video's there?
[13:01] <ayekat> OerHeks: silly me - could just have removed a few parts of the URL ^^
[13:01] <ayekat> thanks!
[13:01] <Codfection> lotuspsychje, bro its i5 with 12 gb ram and SSD !
[13:02] <lotuspsychje> Codfection: and its also integraded graphics
[13:03] <Codfection> lotuspsychje, if incase I get nvidia laptop, do you think it will work smooth?
[13:03] <lotuspsychje> Codfection: did you try other ubuntu versions if its smooth?
[13:03] <Kruge> Pfft.  I use Intel integrated graphics and play 1080p quite happily
[13:03] <Codfection> yea Kruge. any idea how to fix it?
[13:03] <Codfection> Kruge, did u install any drivers?
[13:03] <OerHeks> Kruge,  intel 3th or 4th gen?
[13:03] <Kruge> Not that I'm aware of.  I think I just stuck plain ol' 14.04 on two years ago.
[13:03] <Codfection> 3
[13:04] <Codfection> Skylakes are worth buying?
[13:04] <Kruge> 4th
[13:04] <lotuspsychje> Kruge: Codfection has the 2nd
[13:04] <Kruge> Eek.
[13:05] <OerHeks> Kruge, he is on 2nd gen intel ..
[13:05] <Kruge> Yeah, that'll do it.
[13:05] <Codfection> yea I am on 2nd*
[13:05] <OerHeks> again: not a racemonster for flash/youtube
[13:05] <Kruge> I had a 2nd gen about a lifetime ago and remember how badly it lagged
[13:06] <lotuspsychje> Codfection: try lubuntu/xubuntu in a liveusb, see if its less lag then unity
[13:07] <Kruge> lotuspsychje: I tracked down what I suspect is the ssh problem I was having and filed a bug report.
[13:07] <lotuspsychje> Kruge: great, lets hope it gets solved
[13:07] <lotuspsychje> Kruge: wanna share the link?
[13:07] <toomanyerrors> has ubuntu started using mir yet?
[13:08] <Kruge> https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/openssh/+bug/1581487
[13:08] <lotuspsychje> toomanyerrors: unity8 is still under development
[13:08] <lotuspsychje> Kruge: tnx
[13:08] <OerHeks> toomanyerrors, no, it will be available after 16.10
[13:09] <toomanyerrors> ok
[13:09] <lotuspsychje> OerHeks: think this bug could be related to recent openssh security flaws in usn?
[13:09] <OerHeks> toomanyerrors, if you like to test https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Unity8Desktop
[13:10] <saavento> Codfection, at www.01.org there intel drivers but i think latest version is 1.4 for Ubuntu 15.10
[13:12] <lotuspsychje> Kruge: why do you have .85 kernel?
[13:12] <lotuspsychje> Kruge: trusty should have 3.13.0.86.92 (trusty
[13:12] <Kruge> Don't ask me man, ask apt!
[13:13] <Kruge> I've not pinned it for any reason, as far as I know
[13:13] <lotuspsychje> Kruge: sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get upgrade
[13:13] <Kruge> Yeah, like I do every other day
[13:13] <OerHeks> try sudo apt-get dist-upgrade
[13:13] <Kruge> No thanks.  I kinda rely on this machine.
[13:14] <OerHeks> this does not upgrade to a higher ubuntu!
[13:14] <OerHeks> !distupgrade
[13:14] <BellaDonna> Hello! Anyone using Ubuntu 16.04 LTS x64 with Firefox? What's your current user agent string? :)
[13:14] <Kruge> I know, but it changes things sufficiently traumatically enough for me to not want to risk doing it
[13:15] <lotuspsychje> Kruge: its a security risk staying on older kernels
[13:15] <OerHeks> Kruge, you can try a dry-run
[13:15] <OerHeks> sudo apt-get dist-upgrade --dry-run
[13:15] <lotuspsychje> BellaDonna: there is a nice #firefox channel for addons and agents etc
[13:16] <Kruge> lotuspsychje: Are you suggesting that 14.04 doesn't get kernel security updates?
[13:16] <BellaDonna> lotuspsychje: I know. :)
[13:16] <lotuspsychje> Kruge: there are some recent kernel security flaws on all ubuntu versions..
[13:17] <lotuspsychje> !usn | Kruge
[13:17] <Kruge> Which don't get backported to / fixed in 14.04s kernels?
[13:18] <OerHeks> !hwe
[13:25] <BellaDonna> Hello! Anyone using Ubuntu 16.04 LTS x64 with Firefox? What's your current user agent string? :)
[13:27] <lotuspsychje> BellaDonna: please no polls here
[13:27] <BellaDonna> Polls?
[13:27] <BellaDonna> I just need one person to tell me.
[13:27] <OerHeks> BellaDonna, http://whatsmyuseragent.com/
[13:27] <OerHeks> i removed firefox, sorry
[13:28] <BellaDonna> OerHeks: Why are you linking that? :D
[13:28] <OerHeks> you can check it yourself, if you run 16.04
[13:28] <lotuspsychje> BellaDonna: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; Ubuntu; Linux x86_64; rv:46.0) Gecko/20100101 Firefox/46.0
[13:28] <BellaDonna> I'm not, that's why I'm asking. ;)
[13:28] <BellaDonna> lotuspsychje: Thanks! :)
[13:29] <BellaDonna> Have a nice day everyone and bye.
[13:29] <OerHeks> :-)
[13:38] <Sonderblade> why isn't mencoder in ubuntu anymore?
[13:38] <curlyears> hallo
[13:39] <curlyears> #join #hardware
[13:40] <OerHeks> Sonderblade, mplayer was dropped from Debian/Ubuntu a while back for various reasons so no mplayer = no mencoder
[13:42] <akik> OerHeks: dropped? it's in xenial repos
[13:43] <OerHeks> !info mencoder
[13:43] <OerHeks> oh it is in universe!
[13:46] <Sonderblade> then it has been returned, it is not in 15.10
[13:54] <d0lph1n98> anyone have any experience with qemu-system-arm on ubuntu 14.04?
[13:54] <sunil_> help installing data card
[13:54] <[Saint]> is there an IRC channel specific to the Ubuntu+1 path, please?
[13:55] <phillyj> hi,
[13:55] <[Saint]> derp, nevermind - found it.
[13:56] <sunil_> unable to install data card
[13:57] <phillyj> i used to have 12.04 and the shutdown button brought up a single menu with logout/restart/shutdown and "save session for future log-in" Options.
[13:57] <phillyj> This is missing in 16.04 with xfce4. How do I get it back? thanks
[14:00] <sunil__> data card installing problem
[14:11] <SanicTheHedjieoj> heeey people
[14:14] <sayur> sunil__: check your device with lsub
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[14:17] <brunch875> That was pretty neat
[14:17] <brunch875> How'd you do that? I was about to flag OP via ubottu
[14:18] <CaffeineAddict> magic
[14:18] <CaffeineAddict> never mind the man behind the curtain
[14:18] <Pici> Well, I'm one of those listed on !ops, so...
[14:19] <brunch875> shhhh, it's the magic (∩｀-´)⊃━☆ﾟ.*･｡ﾟ
[14:22] <Poligono> (a
[14:23] <pac1> I'm looking for people who build hobby level flight simulators
[14:25] <hpvs17e> !alis
[14:26] <pac1> !alis
[14:26] <pac1> alis List *
[14:27] <pac1> !alis LIST *
[14:27] <sunil__> data card installing problem
[14:27] <HackerII> "/msg alis help list
[14:29] <sunil__> unable to create mobile broadband
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[14:29] <HackerII> sunil_:  maybe give some details on whats happening and someone may be able to help
[14:29] <hpvs17e> !ops
[14:30] <e> hpvs17e: they were taken care of already
[14:30] <sunil_> sending the details of lsusb
[14:30] <HackerII> pastebin
[14:30] <sunil_> Bus 003 Device 001: ID 1d6b:0002 Linux Foundation 2.0 root hub
[14:30] <sunil_> Bus 007 Device 001: ID 1d6b:0001 Linux Foundation 1.1 root hub
[14:30] <sunil_> Bus 006 Device 001: ID 1d6b:0001 Linux Foundation 1.1 root hub
[14:30] <sunil_> Bus 002 Device 002: ID 148f:5370 Ralink Technology, Corp. RT5370 Wireless Adapter
[14:30] <sunil_> Bus 002 Device 004: ID 230d:0101
[14:30] <sunil_> Bus 002 Device 001: ID 1d6b:0002 Linux Foundation 2.0 root hub
[14:30] <HackerII> !pastebin | sunil_
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[14:32] <icy> Ers kann mir wer bei ubuntu helfen?
[14:33] <icy> keiner :(
[14:34] <rud0lf> !de | icy
[14:34] <icy> oh, o.k. i am sorry. thanx rud0lf
[14:35] <rud0lf> no problem
[14:35] <Guest61713> am I still here?
[14:35] <Guest61713> ah.  yes.  But ... not as me?
[14:37] <curlyears> greets.  Well, I ran all my strange problems by the guys in #hardware, and the concensus was to try replacing the power supply, and if that doesn't work replaxce the motherboard
[14:37] <curlyears> so maybe it wasn't ubuntu causing all thhse issues afterall
[14:37] <L0g4nAd4ms> Yo guys, you know the "Parted Magic" software ?
[14:38] <L0g4nAd4ms> Well, I secure erased my SSD with that and it worked all well. After that I wanted to do the same thing with my 1tb hdd
[14:38] <curlyears> off to orser a PSU from either tigerdirect or egghead
[14:39] <Noob> I am getting this error. Could someone help me fix it? Check if you are using third party repositories. If so disable them, since they are a common source of problems. Furthermore run the following command in a Terminal: apt-get install -f
[14:39] <L0g4nAd4ms> But, for some reason, during the process it dropped me to a shell and restarted for no reason. Now I think my HDD is screwed, because the system only boots when I disconnect the "power cable"
[14:39] <L0g4nAd4ms> of the HDD
[14:40] <sunil_> http://paste.ubuntu.com/16389503/plain/
[14:40] <BluesKaj> hiyas all
[14:41] <Dorami-Doraemon> s
[14:41] <jonah> Hi can anyone please help, I can't seem to start mysql any more after rebooting. I had a kernel upgrade which I since removed but it hasn't helped. This is the error:
[14:41] <jonah> start: Rejected send message, 1 matched rules; type="method_call", sender=":1.11" (uid=1000 pid=5685 comm="start mysql ") interface="com.ubuntu.Upstart0_6.Job" member="Start" error name="(unset)" requested_reply="0" destination="com.ubuntu.Upstart" (uid=0 pid=1 comm="/sbin/init")
[14:43] <Noob> My package system is broken. Can someone help please?
[14:45] <ducasse> Noob: did you run the command in the message above?
[14:45] <Noob> I did
[14:46] <ducasse> Noob: what happened then? pastebin the output if there were errors.
[14:46] <Codfection> guys
[14:46] <Noob> ducasse: I never used pastebin. How does it work?
[14:46] <Codfection> how to run games on ubuntu
[14:47] <_maddy> Installed phpmyadmin and now I get this error: Fatal error: require_once(): Failed opening required '/usr/share/php/php-gettext/gettext.inc' (include_path='.:/usr/share/php') in /usr/share/phpmyadmin/libraries/select_lang.lib.php on line 477
[14:47] <_maddy> any help guys?
[14:49] <_maddy> oh, just needed to install php-gettext package
[14:50] <ducasse> Noob: go to paste.ubuntu.com, paste the contents of the er
[14:50] <ducasse> Noob: error message and post the url here.
[14:51] <Noob> cucasse: is that a public permanent record? If so, should I worry about posting personal info?
[14:52] <sunil_> data card issue
[14:52] <sunil_> help needed
[14:54] <sunil_> how to enable mobile broadband
[14:55] <jonah> ah found the problem it was my tmp folder, I've cleared it out and backup and running now
[14:55] <Noob> ducasse: here you go: http://paste.ubuntu.com/16389738/
[14:55] <curlyears> OIK, new PSU on order
[14:56] <ducasse> Noob: you need the post the full output from apt, just cut out anything sensitive.
[15:00] <Noob> ducasse: http://paste.ubuntu.com/16389832/
[15:01] <abhigenie92> I am in a grave problem. I was installing kubuntu 16.04. I closed the lid, login screen come up. It is asking password, when I enter it. It shows Unlocking failed.
[15:01] <abhigenie92> Blank password also doesn't work.
[15:02] <ducasse> Noob: try 'sudo dpkg -r tor'
[15:02] <Pici> abhigenie92: try, ubuntu, or kubuntu ,or toor
[15:03] <abhigenie92> Pici: all failed.
[15:04] <Noob> ducasse: "dpkg: warning: ignoring request to remove tor, only the config  files of which are on the system; use --purge to remove them too"
[15:04] <ducasse> Noob: ok, 'sudo dpkg -r --purge tor' then :)
[15:06] <sunil_> sunil
[15:06] <Noob> ducasse: "dpkg: error: conflicting actions -P (--purge) and -r (--remove)" I am guessing I just remove the -r, then? :)
[15:06] <zerox> Anybody using Ubuntu 16.04 LTS?
[15:06] <ducasse> Noob: yes
[15:06] <sunil_> data card installation problem
[15:07] <zerox> The zfs, I created a zpool using loopback file (for experiment). After zpool destroy tank, the "tank" device just came back after system reboot.
[15:07] <Noob> ducasse: Ok, that seems to have executed without errors.
[15:08] <ducasse> Noob: good. now, try 'sudo apt-get autoremove' and then 'sudo apt-get install -f'
[15:12] <Noob> ducasse: I ran the first command, and it is now suggesting that I run "apt-get -f install", with the -f in another position. Does that make a difference?
[15:12] <ducasse> Noob: no, but run this first; 'sudo rm /var/cache/apt/archives/tor_0.2.4.27-1build0.14.04.1_amd64.deb'
[15:15] <wrouesnel2> what's the word on support for an R9 380 with amdgpu? Everything seems to be working, but my 3rd monitor won't display at 1920x1200 despite being detected. for comparison with fglrx previously it worked perfectly
[15:16] <abhigenie92> I am in a grave problem. I was installing kubuntu 16.04. I closed the lid, login screen come up. It is asking password, when I enter it. It shows Unlocking failed.
[15:16] <Noob> ducasse: there was an error: http://paste.ubuntu.com/16390140/
[15:17] <Noob> ducasse: Oh, I just noticed: could it be because tor was running?
[15:18] <ducasse> Noob: ah. yes, that would probably have an effect :)
[15:19] <diubuntu> Hey guys, I just deleted windows and installed ubuntu for the very first time. can somebody help me fix my terrible audio quality? :)
[15:19] <Noob> ducasse: Ops :) I closed the window already. Should I just repeat the commands?
[15:20] <smayl> salut les gars
[15:21] <ducasse> Noob: close window, purge tor, then try 'apt-get install -f'
[15:21] <Noob> sudo dpkg --purge tor?
[15:21] <ducasse> Noob: yes.
[15:22] <ratrace> Anyone using encrypted swap on 16.04? Does it work? My swap won't mount on boot, I have to swapon manually.
[15:22] <Noob> ducasse: dpkg: warning: ignoring request to remove tor which isn't installed
[15:23] <ducasse> Noob: there seems to be an inconsistency in the dpkg database. try 'sudo dpkg -P tor-browser'. we can install it again later.
[15:24] <Noob> ducasse: Uninstalling Tor went well
[15:25] <Noob> ducasse: I mean, tor-browser
[15:25] <ducasse> Noob: good. now try 'sudo apt-get -f install' again, let's hope there are no errors now.
[15:26] <los_graigols> ciao a tutti!
[15:26] <abhigenie92> hi guys!
[15:26] <abhigenie92> I am in a grave problem. I was installing kubuntu 16.04. I closed the lid, login screen come up. It is asking password, when I enter it. It shows Unlocking failed.
[15:27] <Pici> abhigenie92: is there a problem with restarting the install?
[15:27] <Noob> ducasse: That seems to have worked. At least I don't see the same error as before (or any).
[15:28] <abhigenie92> Pici: no, but since I was in between the setup and it was creating the partition. Wouldn't it damage the disk?
[15:28] <lokien_> hey guys, I've got a problem. ubuntu shows my ssd is at 99 degrees all the time - what could be the case?
[15:28] <hugo> guys, i'm trying to compile a program but I keep getting this error http://paste.ubuntu.com/16390345/
[15:28] <hugo> help?
[15:28] <abhigenie92> Force Shutdown and reinstall Pici ?
[15:28] <ducasse> Noob: good, then the database is consistent now :) you should run apt-get autoremove to clean up old packages.
[15:28] <nacc> hugo: probably contact the creator of the source code
[15:28] <Pici> abhigenie92: I think thats your only option at this point.
[15:29] <lokien_> I mean it's 99 Celsius, 210F.
[15:30] <ducasse> Pici: abhigenie92: can't he reset the password from recovery mode?
[15:30] <smayl> svp si qlq peut m'aider j'ai installer genymotion mais j'ai toujours l'erreur : "le serveur dhcp de virtualbox n'a pas attribue une addresse ip a genymmotion ..." j'ai consulé tous presque tous forums donc presque tous tester j'ai meme installer une autre version de ubuntu §§§
[15:30] <Noob> ducasse: Done.
[15:30] <Noobman> Hi friends.. hey is there any iphone or ipad simulator available for Ubuntu/windows
[15:30] <Pici> ducasse: its the password for the live-cd's installer
[15:30] <nacc> !fr | smayl
[15:31] <dolphin_> hey
[15:31] <ducasse> Noob: good, everything should be ok now. you can try to install tor again, but if that fails you need to remove it with dpkg and file a bug.
[15:31] <nacc> Noobman: no idea what's available for windows, not sure why you'd ask that here :)
[15:31] <dolphin_> hey
[15:31] <dolphin_> anyone
[15:31] <Noobman> nacc: searched over google..no result
[15:31] <ducasse> Pici: oh, i thought he meant on an install. nvm.
[15:31] <sudoripspace> What should I do if codeblocks makes all my files read only?
[15:32] <nacc> Noobman: i mean, i'd be surprised if it existed, and even if it did, it would probably only be on osx
[15:33] <Noob> ducasse: Indeed, it looks better now. The warning has gone away. Thank you very much!
[15:33] <Noobman> nacc: good to hear that... i would like to test some apps but i got no iphone..i can't afford an iphone :(    :d
[15:33] <ducasse> Noob: no problem, happy to help!
[15:34] <nacc> Noobman: i would ask in a more appropriate channel, about iphone app development or something (alis may help you find such a channel)
[15:34] <nacc> Noobman: as first you need to figure out if such a thing exists, then whether it's availble on your OS :)
[15:34] <Noobman> nacc: ohh no thats ok..i'll take care..thanks for your time bye
[15:34] <Noobman> nacc: :)
[15:34] <sudoripspace> All of my files are locked when I use codeblocks. How do I unlock them?
[15:35] <Noob> ducasse: You did help a lot! Are you a developer for Ubuntu?
[15:36] <ducasse> Noob: no, just been using linux for a long time :)
[15:37] <Noob> ducasse: I hope time will make me better at this too :) It is very nice to see that this channel is so active, and that people can get real support here. This is extremely valuable.
[15:38] <ducasse> Noob: you might want to subscribe to the ubuntu-users mailing list, there are many knowledgeable people there and you can learn a lot.
[15:39] <Noob> ducasse: What is the difference?
[15:39] <ducasse> Noob: it's a mailing list, not irc :)
[15:39] <Noob> ducasse: Sure :)
[15:40] <ducasse> Noob: you can find it on lists.ubuntu.com - the archives are there too.
[15:41] <Noob> ducasse: I will check that
[15:42] <iNvIsIbLe_> σπερα
[15:42] <Spinach> Can I switch to Cinnamon, from Ubuntu MATE 16.04?
[15:42] <iNvIsIbLe_> τι κανετε;
[15:43] <genii> !gr | iNvIsIbLe_
[15:43] <iNvIsIbLe_> thank you very much genii
[15:44] <ducasse> Spinach: yes, just install the desktop and choose which one you want when you log in.
[15:45] <Spinach> Can you show me an article proving that I can do that?
[15:45] <Noob> ducasse: My problems arose today after I tried installing torsocks, which I guess was because I had tor already installed. Do you know if there is a way to have the two things without having them conflict?
[15:46] <ducasse> Noob: it says they shouldn't conflict, so it should be ok.
[15:46] <Spinach> hehe n00b
[15:47] <Spinach> What article, written for novices like me, shows that it is safe and the instructions for how install Cinnamon on top of Ubuntu MATE 16.04?
[15:47] <ducasse> Spinach: article, no. why should it be a problem?
[15:48] <Androit> If I can't find "ImageMagick" or "policy.xml" on an Ubuntu server, how can I know for sure I'm not vulnerable to the latest vulnerabillity?
[15:48] <ducasse> Spinach: my laptop has cinnamon, xfce and i3, all work perfectly fine.
[15:49] <Noob> ducasse: Ok, I will try it again. Is it best to download it from the tor project website, or use ppas? I remember seeing something about one method being better than the other somewhere.
[15:49] <BluesKaj> Spinach:  not a goos practice to doubt support volunteers, if you have problems with trust then perhaps google is your friend
[15:50] <greekchief> Hello
[15:51] <ducasse> Noob: use the repos as much as you can, don't rely on ppas. download from project web sites as a last resort. the repos are all we support here.
[15:51] <Androit> Ahhh I guess if the identify command returns an apt-get response suggesting I install ImageMagick, that means I don't have it installed? ... Strange since I could swear some of the WP plugins are using it?
[15:52] <BrAsS_mOnKeY> Got a update information alert saying some packages could not be updated.  Please remove, reinstall packages for flashplugin-installer..  while installing I get this error msg:
[15:52] <SchrodingersScat> Noob: and since neither project websites or ppas are supported it's up to you, often I prefer the project website if it's simple enough for me to build myself, anyone can make a ppa so it's an extra layer of trust you have to have.
[15:53] <BrAsS_mOnKeY> 40: too many levels of symbolic link
[15:53] <Noob> ducasse,SchrodingersScat: How can I find the repos? What is the difference between a repo and a ppa?
[15:54] <ducasse> Noob: it depends on the ppa, some are run by ubuntu employees, those are generally good. repo = packages supported by ubuntu, ppa = personal package archive by third parties.
[15:54] <lokien_> can anyone help me with that, please? http://pastebin.com/raw/8pGbXgtE
[15:55] <SchrodingersScat> Noob: the repos should already be on your system, you can use the package/software management programs to select them, like update center.  apt-cache search is one cli way, so apt-cache search firefox would search the repos for anything firefox related.
[15:57] <lokien_> is it safe to remove udisks2?
[15:59] <tim241> yes I think
[15:59] <tim241> otherwhise you just install it again
[15:59] <Noob> SchrodingersScat, ducasse: I found something in the Ubuntu Software Center, so I am guessing that should be a good place to get it from?
[15:59] <BrAsS_mOnKeY> how can i check if my flashplugin-installer is up to date?
[16:00] <ducasse> Noob: yes, that's the safest way.
[16:00] <nacc> BrAsS_mOnKeY: relative to what?
[16:00] <lokien_> tim241: eh, nautilus depends on it. too bad it doesn't know how to show my ssd temperature properly
[16:00] <SchrodingersScat> Noob: yep, software center reads from your repos (or anything you added)
[16:00] <nacc> BrAsS_mOnKeY: if to the repos, check `apt-cache policy <package>`
[16:00] <nacc> BrAsS_mOnKeY: (presuming you ran `apt-get update` first)
[16:01] <BrAsS_mOnKeY> i ran apt install package and remove package
[16:01] <BrAsS_mOnKeY> thats what the error msg suggested
[16:01] <BrAsS_mOnKeY> Got a update information alert saying some packages could not be updated.  Please remove, reinstall packages for flashplugin-installer..  while installing I get this error msg:
[16:01] <BrAsS_mOnKeY> 40: too many levels of symbolic link
[16:01] <tim241> !rules > tim241
[16:02] <BrAsS_mOnKeY> I did do apt update first
[16:02] <Noob> ducasse, SchrodingersScat: Thanks guys! I see that there is even torsocks there.
[16:02] <ducasse> Noob: there are thousands of packages in the repos, so look there first.
[16:03] <Noob> ducasse: Will do :)
[16:04] <BrAsS_mOnKeY> I ran apt-cache policy package I guess everything looks right :)
[16:04] <Spinach> What article, written for novices like me, shows that it is safe and the instructions for how install Cinnamon on top of Ubuntu MATE 16.04?
[16:04] <BrAsS_mOnKeY> just doesnt seem to have installed correctly
[16:04] <Noob> ducasse: Although I am guessing I better restart the computer before doing anything else, after changing so many things.
[16:04] <ducasse> Noob: shouldn't have to.
[16:05] <Noob> ducasse: Ok, I am installing it now then
[16:05] <ducasse> Spinach: look for that article yourself, google is your friend. i'm telling you it should be fine.
[16:07] <Codfection> how to run vmware unlocker
[16:07] <Codfection> on ubuntu
[16:08] <Noob> ducasse: I actually just noticed that tor socks is already installed, and so is Tor! I though we had uninstalled it.. And I did just launch tor. Strange
[16:08] <BrAsS_mOnKeY> nacc, under version table, one of the version doesn't match the installed candidate versions
[16:08] <BrAsS_mOnKeY> but the installed and cadidate versions do match
[16:09] <nacc> BrAsS_mOnKeY: pastebin?
[16:10] <Noob> ducasse: I just got a crash report..
[16:11] <ducasse> Noob: crashes happen every now and then, ask in this channel if it happens regularly.
[16:11] <Homero> boas
[16:12] <BrAsS_mOnKeY> http://pastebin.com/qFi3q71y
[16:12] <drab> hi, if I'm installing ubuntu server it picks up the hostname from dhcp as I expect it to, however if I install ubuntu it does not. any idea why?
[16:12] <elhe> hello Iḿ currently running ubuntu gnome 14.04 with a 3.19.9-59 kernel and as I started the pc today, I couldn`t connect via wlan. When I go into the network manager it says, that it is not compatible with my current version. Can anybody help me please
[16:12] <drab> it seems the problem is ubiquity or something in the graphical installer since the preseed file is the same and the dhcp and even host are the same
[16:14] <elhe> interfaces has only auto lo and iface lo inet loopback
[16:14] <nacc> BrAsS_mOnKeY: that's all normal, the first 3 versions are from the updates pocket, security pocket and the installed log, respectively; the 4th one is the "release" version of flashplugin-installer
[16:15] <Codfection> how to install wine
[16:15] <Codfection> on ubuntu
[16:15] <Noob> ducasse: The report says it is something about tor, but I can't copy (why can't we copy some fields?!). It says that some tor build failed to install/upgrade: trying to overwrite usr/bin/tor, which is also in package tor-browser 3.5.4.
[16:15] <nacc> Codfection: `apt-get install wine` or use the software center?
[16:16] <SchrodingersScat> Noob: it likely installs tor as a daemon.  Restarts are normally only required after kernel updates, some things may require a user to log out then back in.
[16:16] <drab> I can even see the correct hostname being read in installer/casper.log
[16:16] <Spinach> What article, written for novices like me, shows that it is safe and the instructions for how install Cinnamon on top of Ubuntu MATE 16.04?
[16:16] <Noob> Yeah, the updates was saying that I should restart to complete something
[16:16] <BrAsS_mOnKeY> ok thanks,
[16:17] <Noob> SchrodingersScat: Yeah, the updates was saying that I should restart to complete something
[16:17] <curlyears> Noob:  be aware that tor is no longer to be considered safe to use,  It has been reported that obne of their former developers has aligneed himself with the FBI and has been impplicit in hundreds of arestsa
[16:17] <ducasse> Spinach: if you aren't going to listen to what we tell you, then why bother asking us in the first place?
[16:17] <Codfection> nacc I typed aptget install wine and it shows a lot of packages to be installed.. afraid it might break the system
[16:17] <BrAsS_mOnKeY> 500 http://pe.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu xenial-updates/multiverse amd64 Packages
[16:18] <BrAsS_mOnKeY>         500 http://security.ubuntu.com/ubuntu xenial-security/multiverse amd64 Packages
[16:18] <BrAsS_mOnKeY>         100 /var/lib/dpkg/status
[16:18] <BrAsS_mOnKeY>      11.2.202.616ubuntu1 500
[16:18] <BrAsS_mOnKeY>         500 http://pe.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu xenial/multiverse amd64 Packages
[16:18] <tim241> !paste
[16:18] <BrAsS_mOnKeY> those are the 4?
[16:18] <nacc> BrAsS_mOnKeY: why would you type those in the channel if you just pastebin'd them?
[16:18] <nacc> Codfection: wine probably has lots of dependencies
[16:19] <Codfection> nacc, apt-get install wine should install the latest version?
[16:19] <tim241> yes
[16:19] <nacc> BrAsS_mOnKeY: but yes, those are the 4, as you can see, and i just said: updates, security, installed (dpkg status), release (which has been superseded)
[16:19] <nacc> Codfection: yes
[16:19] <Codfection> thanks :)
[16:19] <nacc> Codfection: the lateset *ubuntu-packaged* version
[16:19] <nacc> !latest | Codfection
[16:19] <Codfection> yea thats what I needed.
[16:20] <Codfection> thanks anyway
[16:20] <Codfection> :D
[16:20] <Codfection> how to run .exe file
[16:20] <curlyears> codfection:  caan't run an .exe file uunder ubuntu
[16:20] <tim241> install wine
[16:20] <Codfection> wanna use vmware unlocker.exe file to unlock my VMWare
[16:21] <nacc> Codfection: that's why you installed wine, i assume
[16:21] <Codfection> to run OS X
[16:21] <tim241> Codfection> use wine m8
[16:21] <curlyears> right, run Windows applications under wine ( I have to be honest, I never had much luck with getting anything to run under wine)
[16:21] <ducasse> Codfection: that's for windows vmware binaries, not gonna do you any good.
[16:21] <Codfection> yea I know m8. asking whether it would have compatibility with the VM here in ubuntu or its just for windows VM
[16:22] <Codfection> ducasse, oh alright. any idea how to do for ubuntu
[16:22] <ducasse> Codfection: none. some people are working on running osx under kvm, though.
[16:23] <Codfection> so I can't run OS X on ubuntu at all? ducasse
[16:23] <Codfection> thats sad thou
[16:24] <elhe> Sorry to bother you again. hello Iḿ currently running ubuntu gnome 14.04 with a 3.19.9-59 kernel and as I started the pc today, I couldn`t connect via wlan. When I go into the network manager it says, that it is not compatible with my current version. Can anybody help me please
[16:24] <Spinach> At least there are ppl here. Half the time I come into this Linux provided chat, it is disappointingly empty.
[16:24] <ducasse> Codfection: old versions works/worked at some point, no idea what the status is now.
[16:24] <abhigenie92_> hi guys1
[16:24] <abhigenie92_> !
[16:25] <tim241>  I have vb 2008 on linux
[16:25] <Spinach> Welcome abhigenie92.1
[16:25] <Codfection> ducasse, I cant do iOS development on linux right?
[16:25] <Codfection> sadky
[16:25] <Codfection> sadly*
[16:25] <ikonia> Codfection: why not ?
[16:25] <t3jv> hello
[16:25] <abhigenie92_> I am in grave problem I was installing kubuntu 16.04 from usb, in between installation I had to restart.
[16:26] <Codfection> ikonia, how ?
[16:26] <ikonia> Codfection: what's stopping you ?
[16:26] <abhigenie92_> Now I booted again from live image.
[16:26] <Codfection> Xcode
[16:26] <Codfection> ...
[16:26] <abhigenie92_> And want to install again.
[16:26] <ikonia> Codfection: so you can't use xcode no,
[16:26] <ikonia> as that is macosx only
[16:26] <Codfection> ikonia, so how then?
[16:26] <abhigenie92_> I formatted the linux partition as ext4 from fdisk
[16:26] <ikonia> Codfection: depend what you're actually trying to do
[16:26] <Codfection> develop iOS apps
[16:27] <ikonia> ok - so you want iOS not mac
[16:27] <t3jv> i was testing disk quotas and set a disk quota of 1GB for a user. i downloaded some test files and then it eventually said disk quota exceeded. i deleted the test files but it's still saying disk quota exceeded. when does this update? is there anyway i can force it without disrupting services for others?
[16:27] <Codfection> heard u need to buy expensive macbook :(
[16:27] <Codfection> to do that
[16:27] <nacc> elhe: have you tried going back to the last working kernel?
[16:27] <ikonia> Codfection: there are some objective C development tools that will allow you to do development, where you will struggle is the simulator/test tools xcode provides
[16:27] <elhe> nacc: yes tried the last 3
[16:27] <nacc> t3jv: how did you delete them?
[16:27] <t3jv> nacc: rm 512*
[16:28] <nacc> t3jv: might need to run `sync` a few times to be sure they are cleared fully
[16:28] <Codfection> ikonia, how to overcome that? mate.
[16:28] <nacc> t3jv: and they can't be open by any other program in order for them to be removed from disk
[16:28] <Codfection> without getting broke..
[16:28] <ikonia> Codfection: I think you'll struggle with that to be honest, unless you have an old device to test on natively
[16:28] <ikonia> (or just a device, doesn't have to be old)
[16:28] <nacc> abhigenie92_: i haven't seen the issue yet?
[16:28] <Codfection> ikonia, have you done development in which platforms?
[16:29] <ikonia> Codfection: have I dont iOS development ?
[16:29] <drab> Codfection: stop "hearing" and start doing your homework. A quick google search even shows how to install OSX on linux under virtualbox on linux
[16:29] <ikonia> done
[16:29] <t3jv> nacc: i've ran that several times, even rebooted the server
[16:29] <drab> and as a matter of fact the latest dev lang for ios, swift, is open and apackages are available for linux
[16:29] <Codfection> drab, bro I wanna use VMWare WorkStation..
[16:29] <ikonia> mac OSX is not licensed on non apple hardware
[16:29] <Codfection> due to its snapshot feature
[16:29] <ikonia> so unless you have a mac - it's a pointless discussion
[16:30] <drab> Codfection: that works too, just stop asking for people to hold your hand and do your homework
[16:30] <tgm4883> Codfection: are you being intentionally obtuse?
[16:30] <drab> and virtualbox has snapshotting too
[16:30] <nacc> elhe: and all of them report the same network manager issue?
[16:31] <rmb> hi al, I 've used debain, mint and ubuntu. What distro can I install that will allow me to learn lots about linux and linux software?
[16:31] <ikonia> rmb: any of the ones you've used
[16:31] <Codfection> drab, ok thanks. u dont have to be so rude :)
[16:31] <nacc> t3jv: so the quota tool is currently reporting, for that user, that it's at 100%?
[16:31] <elhe> nacc: yes exactly the same and the wlan pci card is shown by lspci and the ath9k is running
[16:31] <rmb> hmmm but I ideally need an installation project
[16:32] <ikonia> rmb: any of the ones you've used
[16:32] <rmb> lol
[16:32] <nacc> t3jv: can you see if, as that user `du -sh --max-depth=1` in their home directory indicates where the consumption is coming from?
[16:32] <drab> Codfection: if asking people to do their part of the job instead of just asking others to do all the work is calling being rude then we're in trouble
[16:33] <nacc> elhe: unfortunately i'm not sure; do you have any idea what was updated?
[16:33] <Spinach> What article, written for novices like me, shows that it is safe and the instructions for how install Cinnamon on top of Ubuntu MATE 16.04?
[16:33] <ratrace> Anyone using encrypted swap on 16.04? Does it work? My swap won't mount on boot, I have to swapon manually.
[16:33] <t3jv> nacc: here you go http://pastebin.ubuntu.com/16392036/
[16:34] <Codfection> drab, sorry mate. I am new to ubuntu and have difficulties overcoming the lack of windows applications usage
[16:35] <nacc> t3jv: that second output wasn't what i asked
[16:35] <nacc> t3jv: you pasted the size of a file called test1
[16:35] <t3jv> nacc: it came up with an error du: warning: summarizing conflicts with --max-depth=1
[16:35] <nacc> t3jv: ah, sorry, try `du -h --max-depth=1`
[16:35] <nacc> t3jv: but as that user and in their home directory
[16:35] <nacc> t3jv: not as root
[16:35] <ducasse> Spinach: boy, you really do *not* pay attention, do you. 'sudo apt-get install cinnamon-desktop-environment'
[16:36] <elhe> nacc: it said that it was a kernel update, but changing the kernel didn`t change anything
[16:37] <t3jv> nacc: http://pastebin.ubuntu.com/16392121/
[16:37] <t3jv> im going to try to change the disk quota limit and see if that refreshes it
[16:37] <abhigenie92_> my I selected manual and is this what my setup looks like. http://imgur.com/TEs1QSZ
[16:37] <nacc> t3jv: that looks to be running as root; and just to confirm that's test1's directory?
[16:38] <t3jv> nacc: i did "su user1" then "cd ~" and then ran the command
[16:38] <BrAsS_mOnKeY> nacc, how come the dkpg status has a older version number than the installed, candidate number above the version number
[16:39] <nacc> t3jv: i guess technically you set the quote on all of /dev/sdb, so it could be any file on that disk
[16:39] <BrAsS_mOnKeY> version table*
[16:40] <nacc> BrAsS_mOnKeY: it doesn't. dpkg status, updates and security all have the same version (11.2.202.621ubuntu0.16.04.1) and release has 11.2.202.616ubuntu1, which was the one in 16.04 when it released
[16:40] <abhigenie92_> nacc: this what setup looks like now http://imgur.com/TEs1QSZ
[16:40] <nacc> abhigenie92_: you have yet to state a problem that i can see
[16:40] <ducasse> ratrace: encrypted swap works fine here.
[16:41] <BrAsS_mOnKeY> oh ok :)
[16:41] <BrAsS_mOnKeY> thanks for explaining :)
[16:41] <t3jv> nacc: ah you know what you're right, thanks for pointing that out. the disk is mounted to /home and all user backups are done to /home/backup and chowned to each user
[16:41] <ratrace> ducasse: is it part of lvm or standalone partition?
[16:41] <nacc> t3jv: ah :)
[16:42] <midnightdream> hello everyone.  I have lost internet access on ubuntu 14.04. I get the following error when starting nm-applet:  Could not initialize NMClient /org/freedesktop/NetworkManager: The name org.freedesktop.NetworkManager was not provided by any .service files
[16:42] <ducasse> ratrace: no lvm.
[16:43] <ratrace> ducasse: my swap fails when it tries to swapon after mkswap, default systemd swap service, says device busy
[16:45] <ducasse> ratrace: sorry, never seen that. mine just works™
[16:45] <ratrace> ducasse: 16.04?
[16:46] <therealtbe> hi I need to install "cmake" on a machine without internet.   I know I can download with apt-get download cmake.  but how do I get all the other package dependencies in a nice bundle please?
[16:46] <ducasse> ratrace: yep. no lvm as i said, everything as the installer set it up. although the installer was either vivid or wily, it's been upgraded.
[16:47] <ratrace> ducasse: yeah mine is too, worked fine in willy, started collapsing in xenial
[16:47] <t3jv> nacc: sorry to be a pain but i've just searched the / and the amount of files the user has doesn't exceed the quota. the backups were only 100kb. I just created another test user and did the same thing, after deleting the test files i downloaded using wget, it still says the disk quota is exceeded. reqouta says the user has used the hard limit of the quota. perhaps it just needs to be refreshed?
[16:49] <BrAsS_mOnKeY> MonkeyDust:  :D
[16:49] <lotuspsychje> midnightdream: can you try a sudo service network-manager restart
[16:49] <goddard> how can i mount a drive windows hasn't closed properly?
[16:49] <ducasse> ratrace: no problems here, is yours on lvm? it's possible the crypto stuff is started first, as most people would use lvm on top of crypto.
[16:49] <goddard> ntfsfix?
[16:50] <BrAsS_mOnKeY> So are there any Ubuntu developers in here?
[16:50] <BrAsS_mOnKeY> :D
[16:50] <lotuspsychje> BrAsS_mOnKeY: #ubuntu-devel
[16:50] <BrAsS_mOnKeY> ty
[16:51] <MonkeyDust> BrAsS_mOnKeY  or maybe #ubuntu-app-devel
[16:53] <t3jv> nacc: running quotacheck -u -f /home seems to do the trick but when running without -f it says quotacheck: Quota for users is enabled on mountpoint /home so quotacheck might damage the file.
[16:53] <ratrace> ducasse: no, my crypto has been set up manually by me before willy, as the installer did not support encryption before willy. it's a plain partition
[16:53] <tim241>  hi guys I created a script to run visual basic on linux how can I upload that script to the linux server that if I do sudo apt-get install visual-basic-2008 it will start and download my script
[16:54] <t3jv> when i apt-get install quota, it added a cronjob to check quota everyday but i always get emails saying quotas are already enabled. i don't understand the logic behind this. why does quotas need to be disabled for it to check the quota?
[16:54] <ducasse> ratrace: i installed with the vivid or wily image, and set up encryption with the installer.
[16:55] <MonkeyDust> tim241  you can't ... make tje script available as a ppa or .deb and hope someone picks it up ... if it is approved by the ubuntu devs, it can be added to the official repos
[16:56] <tim241> how do I compile it as a .deb?
[16:56] <MonkeyDust> tim!deb
[16:56] <MonkeyDust> !deb
[16:56] <MonkeyDust> oops
[16:56] <tim241> LOL
[16:56] <tim241> xD
[16:57] <curlyears> rmb:  are you still here?
[16:57] <MonkeyDust> tim241  start here http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=910717
[16:59] <tim241> thank you so much
[16:59] <argentnemo_> Does anyone here use pulseaudio equalizer?
[17:00] <MonkeyDust> argentnemo_  thet's a yes/no question ... what brings you here
[17:00] <dxsweet> quit
[17:01] <argentnemo_> I'm trying to find a fix for crackling that happens when i use the equalizer
[17:01] <argentnemo_> it only happens when i get a notification or when 2 audio sources play
[17:01] <argentnemo_> but it's really annoying
[17:06] <ratrace> parted reports the USB stick to which the 16.04 desktop ISO has been dd'ed as mac labelled, with Apple + EFI partitions? wth?
[17:09] <ducasse> ratrace: guessing that is so it will boot on a mac. an uefi pc only looks for an efi partition.
[17:10] <jmadero> hi all - what are the default permissions for a home folder? I formatted my machine a couple days ago and need to set permissions right again
[17:11] <MonkeyDust> jmadero  drwxr-xr-x
[17:11] <jmadero> MonkeyDust: what's that equivalent to 700?
[17:11] <jmadero> for chmod
[17:11] <ducasse> jmadero: 755
[17:11] <jmadero> there it is, thanks
[17:12] <jmadero> I set to 700 and my machine freaked out
[17:12] <jmadero> but .ssh folder needs to be 700 correct?
 I try to run it but I get this error while installing: http://pastebin.com/SvTH2USE
[17:12] <ducasse> jmadero: yes.
[17:13] <MonkeyDust> tim241  ty in #ubuntu-app-devel
[17:13] <jmadero> wait 755 gives permission to access to everyone
[17:13] <MonkeyDust> try*
[17:13] <buck1> does anyone know where version control is for these things? https://partner-images.canonical.com/core/xenial/current/
[17:13] <jmadero> I definitely don't want everyone to have access to my home folder
[17:13] <ducasse> jmadero: you asked for the default :)
[17:13] <buck1> jmadero: traditionally, you want people to be able to ls your homedir
[17:13] <jmadero> why in the hell would they default to that!?
[17:13] <jmadero> lol 750 won't break anything right?
[17:14] <buck1> jmadero: note that the write bits are missing...
[17:14] <ratrace> ducasse: I see. thanks.
[17:14] <Inase_Moriyaku> is anyone able to help with a laptop question?
[17:14] <jmadero> yeah, seems like a weird default, might 750 it :)
[17:14] <buck1> anyone is
[17:14] <jmadero> Inase_Moriyaku: just ask
[17:15] <Inase_Moriyaku> perfect. I just installed Ubuntu MATE, and everything works, with the exception of my backlight fn keys. I'm not sure how to fix this issue
[17:15] <Inase_Moriyaku> would anyone have any insight?
[17:15] <tonesfrommars> ugh, network-manager is down for the count. is anyone else suffering from this after system updates?
[17:16] <lotuspsychje> tonesfrommars: try sudo service network-manager restart ?
[17:16] <jmadero> Inase_Moriyaku: http://askubuntu.com/questions/547927/backlight-change-with-fn-keys-do-not-work-on-asus
[17:16] <jmadero> ?
[17:16] <Inase_Moriyaku> it's not an ASUS. It's a Compaq. But that's vendor agnostic, I assume?
[17:17] <tim241> I tried to build my first .deb program but I get an error while installing: http://pastebin.com/SvTH2USE
[17:17] <jmadero> Inase_Moriyaku: no they wouldn't be
[17:19] <tonesfrommars> thanks lotuspsychje , tried that, but no love. Network prefs says "system network services are not compatible with this version"
[17:19] <tonesfrommars> I'm trying to get into recovery mode so I can reinstall from there, but I can't even manage that, haha.
[17:19] <lotuspsychje> tonesfrommars: wich ubuntu version is this?
[17:19] <tonesfrommars> Shift key on reboot not getting me there, neither escape key.
[17:20] <tonesfrommars> I'm in 14 LTS
[17:21] <tonesfrommars> I'm finding reports that something broke today: http://askubuntu.com/questions/771627/14-04-network-manager-stopped-working/771841#771841
[17:21] <asif> hello
[17:21] <asif> is there any ubuntu gnome user ??
[17:22] <autotroph> could anyone advise me - when i restart ubuntu i get 'system program problem detected' and no internet connection
[17:22] <therealtbe> !ask
[17:22] <squinty> tonesfrommars,  hold down the shift key immediately after computer boot splash screen.  afaik, the escape key has to be repeatably tapped
[17:22] <nacc> t3jv: sorry, i don't know too much about the quota system myself
[17:22] <autotroph> 14.04
[17:23] <t3jv> nacc: it's ok, after running quotacheck with -f now it works, i can delete files and the space is immediately available
[17:23] <nacc> t3jv: ah ok
[17:23] <asif> can i remove the round corner on my desktop below activity panel
[17:23] <Goug> Hi - can you please recommend a light and secure mail server easy to setup on Ubuntu 16.04 Server?
[17:24] <MonkeyDust> Goug  squirrel
[17:24] <tonesfrommars> thanks squinty, tapping escape did the trick
[17:25] <Goug> MonkeyDust, will I be able to use a domain i jsut bought to set up multiple emails@thisdomain.com ?
[17:25] <Inase_Moriyaku> Just wanted to pop back and say thanks, guys. It worked. If I have any more issues, I know where to go. :)
[17:25] <MonkeyDust> Goug  there's also #ubuntu-server
[17:25] <autotroph> anyone have any suggestions - i rebooted ubuntu and now i get 'system program problem detected' and no internet connection
[17:26] <autotroph> but this is not a new install or anything
[17:27] <squinty> tonesfrommars, yw
[17:28] <squinty> autotroph,  someone else experiencing the same problem posted the following :   http://askubuntu.com/questions/771627/14-04-network-manager-stopped-working/771841#771841
[17:30] <mt_> hello
[17:30] <mt_> i need help
[17:30] <mt_> network-manager stop working after upgrade
[17:30] <mt_> i need to reinstall it from cd
[17:30] <mt_> how to do it
[17:30] <mt_> ??
[17:30] <mt_> pls urgent
[17:31] <mt_> any one please help
[17:31] <squinty> mt_, http://askubuntu.com/questions/771627/14-04-network-manager-stopped-working/771841#771841
[17:31] <autotroph> is it normal when i do 'service network-manager status' it returns 'network-manager stop/waiting' ?
[17:32] <autotroph> interesting mt i'm having same problem
[17:32] <autotroph> must be related to software update
[17:33] <autotroph> thanks squinty
[17:33] <Guido1> I'm looking for a way to add a carrecter to the name of several files in a folder. So I want to make from abc.doc, def,doc, efg,doc etc. something like abc T.doc, def T,doc, efg T,doc etc.
[17:34] <nacc> Guido1: look at `man rename`
[17:35] <tonesfrommars> ok, repaired broken packages from recovery mode. Got two warnings at the end "ModemManager: couldn't find support for device at '....': not supported by any plugin
[17:35] <autotroph> anyone know how to see the details of system program problem
[17:35] <ducasse> Guido1: if you want a gui there is gprename
[17:37] <Guido1> ducasse, nacc: thanks.
[17:37] <neo1691> Hey guys, I am having trouble with fonts on android-studio and oracle java 8. I have posted all the details here http://askubuntu.com/questions/771931/ugly-font-rendering-with-android-studio-on-java8
[17:37] <Guido1> I have a problem with a Samba printer as well
[17:37] <G3nka1> I update to ubuntu 16 LETS and guess what there is not java, dont know where it went( I had both jre and jdk before)
[17:37] <G3nka1> wierd af
[17:37] <G3nka1> *no
[17:37] <neo1691> Here is a screen of the fonts http://i.stack.imgur.com/mukbO.png
[17:38] <tonesfrommars> Hooray, I'm fixed! Thanks everyone.
[17:38] <OerHeks> !java | G3nka1
[17:38] <akik> G3nka1: try openjdk-8-jre-headless. it's installed by default
[17:39] <akik> !info openjdk-8-jre-headless
[17:39] <akik> G3nka1: actually i don't know if it was installed by a dependency
[17:39] <G3nka1> no its not akik, when i type java it says it can be found in folowing softwares
[17:39] <OerHeks> try 'openjdk'
[17:40] <G3nka1>  nope command not found
[17:40] <OerHeks> if that new softwarecenter does not show, install synaptic ( detailed softwarecenter)
[17:40] <G3nka1> but just before upgrading I had used it
[17:40] <OerHeks> i think it shows only gui apps
[17:40] <akik> G3nka1: ok install that package and you'll get java 1.8.0
[17:40] <OerHeks> sudo apt install openjdk
[17:40] <dbz2k> what does mean on on of the bugs I am following "OEM Priority Project"
[17:40] <G3nka1> but I want java 7 akik
[17:40] <G3nka1> not 8
[17:41] <G3nka1> i dont know if my project will work on 8
[17:41] <OerHeks> no 7 on 16.04 AFAIK
[17:41] <G3nka1> fuck :/
[17:41] <G3nka1> why did I upgrade ;(
[17:41] <Guido1> ducasse: I'm just trying gprename, but i don't get to the directory
[17:41] <G3nka1> waste
[17:41] <OerHeks> !info openjdk7
[17:41] <OerHeks> !info openjdk7 wily
[17:42] <midnightdream> when I run sudo service network-manager ewstary I get: stop/waiting
[17:42] <akik> G3nka1: you can probably install oracle's java outside of the package manager
[17:42] <Guido1> ducasse: got it
[17:42] <midnightdream> start/running, process 3458
[17:42] <G3nka1> hmmm will that work ? akik
[17:42] <nacc> OerHeks: G3nka1: correct, 16.04 has 8 and 9, iirc
[17:42] <midnightdream> still no internet
[17:42] <OerHeks> !info openjdk-8-jre
[17:42] <OerHeks> !info openjdk-7-jre
[17:42] <OerHeks> !info openjdk-7-jre wily
[17:43] <G3nka1> but will openjdk8 support openjdk7 projects ?
[17:43] <G3nka1> in general
[17:44] <hubit> which are other wonderful commands like wget?
[17:44] <nacc> G3nka1: not sure, but the reason it's not in 16.04 is probably becuse 7 has been removed from debian unstalbe & testing
[17:44] <autotroph> anyone know how to check libnl version and check what cached old versions exist
[17:44] <nacc> autotroph: `apt-cache policy <pkgname>`
[17:44] <G3nka1> and akik will JAVA_HOME be implicitly set when I do sudo apt-get install openjdk8 ?
[17:45] <autotroph> thx
[17:45] <akik> G3nka1: it's not set
[17:45] <autotroph> can i use widcards somehow nacc
[17:46] <nacc> autotroph: no, but you might be able to tab-complete
[17:46] <nacc> autotroph: actually, it does support wildcards
[17:46] <nacc> autotroph: e.g., libnl*
[17:46] <autotroph> oh yeah it does lol
[17:46] <G3nka1> hey nacc I also seem to have update issues after upgrade, can you look this and say if somethings wrong ? http://sprunge.us/iBFe  akik
[17:46] <meh> i am trying to comple iridium browser
[17:47] <OerHeks> sure, apt-cache policy openjdk*
[17:47] <meh> is a privacy-enchaced modification of  chromium
[17:47] <meh> because iridium does no have a ppa for xenial
[17:48] <nacc> G3nka1: i can't help you with non-ubuntu repositories (opensuse), the weak digest issues are knownw for google (google them to see what it means)
[17:48] <sriniwas> hello
[17:48] <G3nka1> no no I dont want opnsuse I dont even know how it go tadded :/ nacc
[17:49] <miki> ola
[17:49] <meh> is for make a deb
[17:49] <Guest32663> alguna de madrid
[17:49] <meh> for ubuntu "an iridium updated ppa"
[17:49] <sriniwas> is there any way to change themes without unity tweak tool
[17:49] <meh> the beast strategy would be
[17:49] <meh> download the chromium's source deb
[17:50] <meh> and replace chromium's code  with iridium's code?
[17:50] <meh> https://iridiumbrowser.de/download.html
[17:51] <meh> because iridium does not updated the ppa https://downloads.iridiumbrowser.de/ubuntu/dists/
[17:51] <G3nka1> woah openjdk8 seems to work fine thanks a lot guys :) nacc akik OerHeks
[17:51] <meh> but the source code is it  "wi it i replace chromium source code"
[17:51] <meh> https://downloads.iridiumbrowser.de/source/iridium-browser-51.0.tar.xz
[17:52] <akik> G3n3sis: just for my curiosity, which java app you are running?
[17:53] <sriniwas> Please help me
[17:53] <Jordan_U> meh: That might be a good place to start, but you should really also look at all of the pieces of source packaging and ensure that they still make sense with iridium.
[17:54] <MonkeyDust> sriniwas  right click on the desktop, select themes
[17:54] <MWM> I am looking for a way to permanently change process priority in lubuntu 15.10
[17:54] <sriniwas> MonkeyDust I am running unity
[17:55] <Queenslayer> Guys
[17:55] <MWM> currently using gnome-system-monitor, but it must be reset on reboot
[17:55] <bekks> MWM: Tell us about your symptoms leading to that question please.
[17:55] <Queenslayer> And gals
[17:55] <MWM> I am simply trying to set a higher priority for a particular process so that it gets more attention from the cpu (video encoding)
[17:56] <ducasse> MWM: 'nice'?
[17:56] <MWM> ducasse:  what ive read of nice is will take some study.  I was hoping there was something simpler :)
[17:56] <akik> renice too
[17:57] <sriniwas> is there any way?😩
[17:58] <Noob> ducasse: I have lost the network after restarting. Could you help me? I am on a tablet now.
[17:58] <MWM> aparrently there is a GUI for it "auto nice daemon"  but there is the matter of there being two forms of nice:  0-99 and -20 to 20.  I dont knwo the difference
[17:59] <OerHeks> sriniwas, systemsettings > appearance, there is a theme selector
[17:59] <autotroph> update of libnl packages from version 3.2.21-1 to 3.2.21-1ubuntu1
[17:59] <autotroph> that is confusing
[17:59] <nacc_> autotroph: what is confusing about that?
[18:00] <autotroph> well the naming scheme
[18:00] <autotroph> at first i thought okay i am already on the proposed downgraded package
[18:00] <zykotick9> autotroph: i'd "guess" they backports something to it... thus it's the same version, but with a "ubuntu1" edit..
[18:01] <akik> MWM: what do you consider hard in putting one number as the new priority?
[18:01] <Noob> I have no network in ubuntu 14.04. Can someone help?
[18:01] <autotroph> well i have to downgrade
[18:01] <sriniwas> I have extracted the theme in the themes directory but it only shows the two default options
[18:01] <autotroph> Noob -try this http://askubuntu.com/questions/727127/last-upgrade-crashes-network-manager-no-internet-connection-no-applet/727462#727462
[18:02] <MonkeyDust> sriniwas  ight clicking the desktop is the easiest and normal way ... what happens when you try
[18:02] <nacc_> autotroph: the naming scheme is totally expected and well documented? it means there is an ubuntu change on top of the debian version
[18:02] <autotroph> Noob - others having same problem
[18:03] <autotroph> right but i was not expecting it
[18:03] <MWM> akik: http://askubuntu.com/questions/337444/how-to-increase-the-priority-for-a-task-permanently-in-linux-machine
[18:03] <autotroph> i see now though
[18:03] <MWM> Ive gone to /etc/and.priorities ... and then Im lost as to where I am supposed to edit.
[18:03] <sriniwas> It only shows options ambience and radiance
[18:04] <akik> MWM: i was just thinking about a simple solution. modify the program shortcut to always run it at the highest priority
[18:06] <dxsweet> hi
[18:07] <dxsweet> Why nobody talks?
[18:07] <MWM> back to reading  I only topped in because I thought you guys might have the fast solution :)
[18:07] <therealtbe> how can I download cmake and all dependencies to install offline please??
[18:07] <akik> what?
[18:08] <MonkeyDust> !offline | therealtbe
[18:08] <seventh__> hi all
[18:09] <seventh__> I just baught an ASUS ROG 552VW and I cannot manage to make it shutdown or reboot
[18:09] <seventh__> it hangs on shutdown
[18:09] <lotuspsychje> seventh__: what does F1 show as error on shutdown process?
[18:09] <seventh__> no error
[18:09] <seventh__> that is why i'm here
[18:09] <seventh__> it hangs on the last step
[18:09] <lotuspsychje> seventh__: wich ubuntu version?
[18:09] <seventh__> 16.06
[18:10] <lotuspsychje> seventh__: and wich sstep would that be?
[18:10] <Guest64864> hello
[18:10] <DJones> therealtbe: Assuming you're using xenial, look at http://packages.ubuntu.com/xenial/cmake there's a link at the bottom of the pagen to download cmakeand its dependancies
[18:10] <seventh__> [OK ]reached shutdown state
[18:10] <Guest64864> alguem do brasil?
[18:10] <DJones> !br | Guest64864
[18:10] <lotuspsychje> seventh__: does sudo halt -p work?
[18:11] <seventh__> yes...
[18:11] <seventh__> thank you so very much
[18:11] <lotuspsychje> seventh__: is your system up to date mate?
[18:12] <seventh__> yes i guess so
[18:12] <Noob> autotroph: Thanks, I will try that, but it will take me some time to find a way to copy the file. I am on a tablete now
[18:12] <lotuspsychje> seventh__: try sudo apt update && sudo apt upgrade
[18:12] <seventh__> going to give it a sudo apt update upgrade now
[18:13] <Noob> autotroph:anything else I could try in the mean time?
[18:15] <seventh__> ok now the reboot and shutdown work
[18:15] <seventh__> but i lost my mouse pointer
[18:15] <seventh__> any help here
[18:16] <MonkeyDust> seventh__  usb mouse? wireless?
[18:16] <zely> hello
[18:16] <seventh__> trackpad
[18:18] <seventh__> its a trackpad issue... it has already been mentioned in several posts, but i cannot figure out how to make it work
[18:19] <seventh__> and it worked just before i did the "sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get ugprade"
[18:19] <Term1nal> I'm continuing to get notifications about updates being available, however, there are none upon checking the software updater tool.
[18:19] <autotroph> Noob - i think you should try that one
[18:19] <seventh__> ?
[18:20] <autotroph> Noob - here is what someone else said in the comments:  have faced this issue which wasn't got fixed for quite some time. What I do is sudo ifdown eth0 when disconnected and sudo ifup eth0 when a new link is connected
[18:22] <midnightdream> so when I try to restart network manager nithing happpens... any ideas?
[18:23] <Term1nal> I should have stuck with 14.04 *sigh*
[18:23] <autotroph> http://askubuntu.com/questions/727127/last-upgrade-crashes-network-manager-no-internet-connection-no-applet/727462#727462
[18:23] <lotuspsychje> midnightdream: is it possible to test a lower kernel version?
[18:23] <anna__> get resolved?
[18:24] <Spinach> What article, written for novices like me, shows that it is safe and the instructions for how install Cinnamon on top of Ubuntu MATE 16.04?
[18:24] <lotuspsychje> Spinach: check omgubuntu.com and softpedia linux
[18:25] <Noob> autotroph: This command? "sudo ifdown eth0"
[18:26] <autotroph> that is what it says Noob
[18:26] <autotroph> have not tried it
[18:27] <midnightdream> i will try the recovery directions in the link
[18:27] <Noob> autotroph: That didn't work: "ifdown: interface eth0 not configured"
[18:27] <midnightdream> hopefully an update is released soon to fix this
[18:27] <seventh__>  hey everybody, I have just installed ubuntu 16.06 on my brand new ASUS ROG GL552VW and the mouse pointer of the trackpad doesn't work. although it works with an USB mosue
[18:27] <seventh__> any one can help me with this ?
[18:28] <Noob> autotroph: you know how to configure it?
[18:29] <magento_rocks> i have a tomcat8 issue on Ubuntu 16.04 -- 1st request: java.lang.UnsatisfiedLinkError: no jpostal_parser in java.library.path  -- 2nd+ request: java.lang.NoClassDefFoundError: Could not initialize class com.mapzen.jpostal.AddressParser
[18:29] <autotroph> did you try the ifup command
[18:29] <magento_rocks> this works fine in ubuntu 15.10
[18:29] <squinty> Noob, does the output of  ifconfig  show something similar to the following "enp5s0"  (located on the far left)
[18:29] <autotroph> Noob - no not really
[18:29] <OerHeks> seventh__, easy find, this topic https://rog.asus.com/forum/showthread.php?81702-Linux-installation-in-ASUS-ROG-GL552VW-DH71
[18:29] <magento_rocks> im using only default values everything, any idea why it works on 15.10 but not 16.04?
[18:30] <OerHeks> seventh__, see #6
[18:30] <Spinach> This chat does not have an undo feature. That is a basic feature.
[18:30] <lotuspsychje> Spinach: undo?
[18:30] <magento_rocks> irc chats are immutable
[18:30] <Spinach> What article, written for novices, like me, gives instructions for how install Cinnamon on top of Ubuntu MATE 16.04, and proves that it is safe and stable?
[18:31] <Noob> squinty: No, just what I posted
[18:31] <autotroph> is there a special way i have to download .deb files ?
[18:31] <MonkeyDust> autotroph  wget
[18:32] <Codfection> who codes in C / C ++?
[18:32] <nacc> Codfection: many people
[18:32] <autotroph> MonkeyDust - i mean i downloaded these files and transferred them via a usb stick
[18:32] <Codfection> Wanna ask which is the best ide and compiler in ubuntu
[18:32] <autotroph> but when i rn dpkg on them it says they are not debian format archive
[18:32] <ducasse> lotuspsychje: i'm guessing he's trolling, i already told him how to do what he asked, but he wants 'proof'.
[18:33] <Codfection> nacc, any idea?
[18:33] <squinty> Spinach,  you have had lots of suggestions on your topic.  There is no hard and fast guarantee that mixing desktops won't barf somewhere along the line (be there done that and don't do it any more).  some users never experience and problems but others do....
[18:33] <nacc> Codfection: i've never used an ide. Most Ubuntu developers probably use gcc/g++.
[18:33] <Codfection> thats all you use ?
[18:33] <nacc> Codfection: but asking "best" questions is not a support topic.
[18:33] <squinty> Noob: ok thanks just checking because the naming of ethernet and wireless has been changed recently
[18:34] <Spinach> I have only had 1 answer to my topic.
[18:34] <OerHeks> Spinach, the only guaranteed solution is installing side-by-side
[18:34] <Codfection> nacc, yea my bad..
[18:34] <seventh__> OerHeks, thanks but now the computer hangs on the shutdown...
[18:34] <MonkeyDust> Spinach  the proof of the pudding is the eating ... try it to find out
[18:34] <seventh__> and the mouse still doesn't work..
[18:34] <nacc> Codfection: gcc and g++ are all you need as far as compilers go, you might need make and other helper tools, depends on what you're doing
[18:34] <OerHeks> seventh__, err you type here?? and read the article thos boot options might solve that too.
[18:35] <autotroph> oh nevermind
[18:35] <squinty> Spinach, that is not true
[18:35] <Codfection> for writing programs.. nacc
[18:35] <MonkeyDust> Spinach  it may depend on your hardware, so no one can tell in advance
[18:35] <autotroph> pebcak
[18:36] <seventh__> OerHeks, yep read them, went throught them, no ERR to mention, it just hangs on [OK] Shut down state reached
[18:36] <seventh__> and now after I did the update upgrade no mouse pointer
[18:36] <streulma> Network Manager crashing......
[18:36] <seventh__> and the solution #6 on the topic does't work
[18:36] <nacc> Codfection: i use a text editor to write programs
[18:37] <Codfection> nacc, which text editor?
[18:37] <streulma> the wifi thinks he is lan network, pkill -9 wpa_supplicant and restarting NetworkManager helps
[18:37] <Codfection> what pdf / epub reader you suggest on ubuntu?
[18:37] <lotuspsychje> Codfection: mupdf
[18:37] <nacc> Codfection: I use vi(m), but that is sort of irrelevant
[18:37] <OerHeks> seventh__, hmm indeed, 2nd page gives more failures, no confirmation...
[18:38] <MonkeyDust> !manual | Codfection FWIW
[18:38] <nacc> MonkeyDust: thanks
[18:38] <Codfection> thanks
[18:38] <Codfection> lotuspsychje, thanks.
[18:38] <Codfection> I wanted specific name
[18:39] <lotuspsychje> Codfection: calibre for epubs
[18:39] <seventh__> OerHeks... thanks mate. was hoping there was a master guru that had a wicked solution over here <3 :p
[18:40] <lotuspsychje> seventh__: try another kernel for a test
[18:41] <seventh__> hmmmm I would do it, but I am preparing this laptop for a lady that has no ubuntu knowledge...
[18:41] <seventh__> and btw how do I downgrade a kernel ?
[18:41] <lotuspsychje> !mainline | seventh__
[18:41] <OerHeks> seventh__, err only nouveau,modeset 0 ?? http://askubuntu.com/questions/757573/installing-linux-on-rog-gl552vw-beginner
[18:42] <OerHeks> seventh__, if that does not work, reply to that post please
[18:42] <autotroph> Noob, midnightdream, et al: this solution worked for me, i have networking
[18:42] <Codfection> guys when I install anything using apt-get install, I dont see their icons on launcher until I restart my system.. is this normal?
[18:43] <OerHeks> Codfection, for some tools/extentions yes
[18:43] <seventh__> thanks guys, giving it a read now
[18:43] <lotuspsychje> autotroph: what fixxed it?
[18:43] <seventh__> will be back soon with an output
[18:43] <autotroph> lotuspsychje - this solution http://askubuntu.com/questions/727127/last-upgrade-crashes-network-manager-no-internet-connection-no-applet/727462#727462
[18:43] <OerHeks> Codfection, depends on what you install, there might be a command to reload their database/restart service
[18:44] <squinty> Codfection,  some apts don't appear in dash  just loggin out and logging back in again makes them appear here.
[18:45] <Codfection> thanks.
[18:45] <Spinach> What article, written for novices, like me, gives instructions for how install Cinnamon on top of Ubuntu MATE 16.04, and proves that it is safe and stable?
[18:45] <Codfection> got it
[18:45] <MonkeyDust> Spinach  you're trolling
[18:45] <squinty> Spinach,  time to give it a rest please
[18:46] <MonkeyDust> Spinach  what you ask does not exist
[18:46] <OerHeks> btw cinnamon 'on top of mate' you still need to change DE when you login
[18:46] <OerHeks> so now you are not novice anymore
[18:47] <therealtbe> Spinach:   http://bfy.tw/5kcB
[18:47] <tim241>  I am banned at #debian reason: (bored)
[18:47] <Codfection> guys why I need to use terminal to copy and paste files from different locations? Why I cant drag and drop
[18:48] <Pici> tim241: thats not something that we can help you with
[18:48] <baizon> Codfection: well you dont have to use the terminal xD
[18:49] <Codfection> how to simply copy paste files by dragging?
[18:49] <Codfection> prompt pops up saying no privilages.
[18:49] <Codfection> etc
[18:49] <baizon> Codfection: open 2x nautilus (file manager) and drag?
[18:49] <OerHeks> Codfection, you can do that in your /home folder, not outside, then you need permissions
[18:50] <baizon> Codfection: it depends where you want to copy them
[18:50] <Codfection> OerHeks, how to give it permissions?
[18:50] <baizon> Codfection: run as sudo would be one solution
[18:50] <Codfection> that would be using terminal,. baizon
[18:50] <OerHeks> !permissions
[18:51] <OerHeks> too mucht to answer in 1 line
[18:51] <thebishop> hi, i'm seeing an issue with 16.04 where my laptop's touchscreen digitizer seems to be freaking out.  i get spurious orange move/scale anchors on my windows, and the unity dashboard will randomly open sometimes.  it also makes my cursor jump on occasion.  i don't see these problems on windows, so i kind of ruleout hardware/dust/moisture related explanations
[18:51] <baizon> Codfection: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RootSudo
[18:51] <squinty> Codfection,  nautilus-admin   install that and an admin option will appear in nautilus
[18:51] <Codfection> baizon, whats the nautilius thing u mentioned before?
[18:52] <Pappytee> partition table entries are not in disk order ubuntu
[18:52] <Spinach> What article, written for novices, gives instructions for how install Cinnamon on top of Ubuntu MATE 16.04, and proves that it is safe and stable?
[18:52] <MonkeyDust> Spinach  stop
[18:53] <lotuspsychje> !ops | Spinach repeating
[18:53] <OerHeks> MonkeyDust, he does not read us anyway
[18:53] <baizon> Codfection: its the default file manager for ubuntu
[18:54] <Codfection> OerHeks, the article is full of terminal commands
[18:54] <Codfection> I've asked for GUI based permissions. but thanks anyway
[18:54] <Codfection> got it... baizon
[18:54] <ioria> !info gksu
[18:55] <Codfection> ./rm -rf
[18:55] <AL-F4> hi
[18:55] <mlenthu> Hi, I am a student from India. I am having troubles installing nvidia drivers on ubuntu 14.04. I am here for help
[18:55] <AntarcticFlea> Hello
[18:57] <AntarcticFlea> No one is here? wow
[18:57] <AntarcticFlea> What a pointless chat
[18:57] <Codfection> lol
[18:57] <MonkeyDust> AntarcticFlea  type /topic
[18:57] <AntarcticFlea> I have my own topic, thank you.
[18:58] <AntarcticFlea> Glad to know someone is here.
[18:58] <mlenthu> Hey, can anybody help me out with nvidia drivers installation?
[18:58] <MonkeyDust> AntarcticFlea  this is the ubuntu supoport channel, what brings you here
[18:58] <Thor> I have a local dns server running on my firewall which has a records for other machines on my network, I've installed 16.04 on my pc, but for some reason I can not resolve any hosts on the local domain, I've noticed that dnsmasq is installed as what I guess is a lxc container. I haven't been able to find much information on how it's controlled or configured though, any pointers would be nice.
[18:58] <AntarcticFlea> Otherwise this would not be function
[18:58] <AntarcticFlea> What article, written for novices, gives instructions for how install Cinnamon on top of Ubuntu MATE 16.04, and proves that it is safe and stable?
[18:58] <squinty> mlenthu,  first thing to do is check  Additional Drivers to see if anything is offered
[18:58] <AntarcticFlea> functional*
[18:58] <Noob> autotroph: where shoud I save the .deb files?
[18:59] <mlenthu> I have tried to install nvidia driver from additional drivers and from binary fiile provided by Nvidia itself. Both seems to be not working.
[18:59] <MonkeyDust> AntarcticFlea  your question is pointless, don't blame the channel
[18:59] <AntarcticFlea> Noob, you may save them to the /home/<username>/Desktop
[18:59] <mlenthu> Whenever I install I get into login loop issue or black screen issue
[19:00] <Codfection> mlenthu, thats the nvidia drivers problems.
[19:00] <Codfection> regardless of OS.
[19:00] <Codfection> latest drivers from Nvidia tends to give headaches.
[19:00] <Noob> AntarticFlea: But then isn't it bad in the long run, since the system will be using it, what happens if I move  or erase them later?
[19:00] <mlenthu> I have tried stable driver also (352). Same issue
[19:01] <Codfection> ^ they call it stable
[19:01] <Codfection> 352 had issues if u google it
[19:02] <RAMIT> has anyone had a thing where hacving an encrypted install causes ubuntu to freeze?
[19:02] <mlenthu> But older version like 342 does not supports my card (GeForce GTX 960M)
[19:02] <autotroph> Noob - well if you can save the deb files to your computer you must have networking
[19:02] <Codfection> mlenthu, which laptop u using
[19:02] <MonkeyDust> Codfection  yes, nvidia and ubuntu are not friends, linus's 'the finger' is a classic
[19:02] <Noob> autotroph: I have a pen drive
[19:02] <autotroph> what i did was save them on a usb stick, then transfer them to the computer without networking
[19:02] <autotroph> right
[19:02] <autotroph> then i just made a temp folder on the desktop and ran them from there
[19:02] <Codfection> MonkeyDust, not only on linux, they have issues with windows aswell
[19:02] <autotroph> doesn't really matter
[19:03] <autotroph> maybe you could run them from the pen drive, i dunno
[19:03] <mlenthu> I am using ASUS ROG laptop
[19:03] <AntarcticFlea> What article, written for novices, gives instructions for how install Cinnamon on top of Ubuntu MATE 16.04, and proves that it is safe and stable?
[19:03] <Pici> AntarcticFlea: There is none.
[19:03] <linuxuser> Hello
[19:03] <Codfection> mlenthu, ubuntu for gaming?
[19:03] <Codfection> :p
[19:03] <Pici> AntarcticFlea: Please stop repeating, you've been asked multiple times and given instructions.
[19:03] <linuxuser> Hello
[19:04] <linuxuser> How r u pici
[19:04] <linuxuser> ?
[19:04] <Pici> busy
[19:04] <Codfection> ^ fine
[19:04] <linuxuser> ?
[19:04] <mlenthu> :) no actually not for gaming. I will be using it for CUDA programming
[19:04] <Codfection> great.. download cuda drivers
[19:04] <Codfection> not latest ones
[19:05] <nacc> autotroph: Noob: fwiw, i think the archive versions will get fixed shortly
[19:06] <mlenthu> I have tried bumblebee also. Though it installs the drivers but it hangs on simple commands also.
[19:06] <mlenthu> Problem is there are so many solutions suggested by people on web I am totally confused. I am not good with ubuntu internals so I was just trying out all solutions
[19:06] <ikonia> bubmlebee is dead
[19:07] <mlenthu> And now I am totally confused.
[19:07] <ikonia> bumblebee
[19:07] <Codfection> ^ its dead
[19:07] <Codfection> mlenthu, best bet would be to install the older drivers by nvidia cuda
[19:07] <Codfection> latest ones are having all kinds of problems.
[19:07] <pubunt_> my drive keeps crashing/rebooting... what are good tests to run?
[19:07] <Codfection> ^ chkdsk
[19:08] <tankenmate> hmmm my body feels like it is about 2 inches to the left of where it should be
[19:08] <Noob> autotroph: Thanks, that worked! Can I just delete those files from my desktop?
[19:08] <ikonia> Codfection: that lastest ones are stable
[19:08] <ikonia> Codfection: are they confirmed problems, or problems you are having
[19:08] <mlenthu> Okay, thanks. Will try out an older driver.
[19:08] <Codfection> ikonia, all around forums
[19:08] <AntarcticFlea> What article, written for novices, gives instructions for how install Cinnamon on top of Ubuntu MATE 16.04, and proves that it is safe and stable?
[19:08] <pubunt_> Codfection, chkdsk?
[19:09] <ikonia> Codfection: not really interested in forums, interested in confirmed bugs
[19:09] <ikonia> forums are people of all knowledge levels and experience pasting opinions, thats not confirmed bugs
[19:10] <Codfection> pubunt_, open command and write chkdsk
[19:10] <dxsweet> quit
[19:10] <ikonia> Codfection: chkdsk is windows
[19:11] <pubunt_> chkdsk:  not found
[19:11] <Optiprism> How come "ls *.png" returns "ls: cannot access '*.png': No such file or directory" instead of listing all .pngs?
[19:11] <compdoc> chkdsk is windows
[19:11] <Codfection> oh yea its for windows.. can you tell him the alternative.
[19:11] <squinty> pubunt_,  sudo touch /forcefsck  (forces a fsck on next reboot)
[19:12] <Codfection> thanks squinty
[19:12] <Codfection> whats the touch command for/
[19:12] <compdoc> ls *.gz  works
[19:12] <ikonia> Codfection: you can't check an "in use" file system
[19:12] <compdoc> ls *.sh     too
[19:13] <ikonia> Codfection: touching that file tells the OS to check it on reboot, before it's mounted and in use
[19:13] <akik> Optiprism: it means you don't have files ending with png in there. try *PNG
[19:13] <Optiprism> nvm I was in the wrong directory >.>
[19:13] <compdoc> ah ha!
[19:13] <Codfection> alright ikonia
[19:14] <AntarcticFlea> What article, written for novices, gives instructions for how install Cinnamon on top of Ubuntu MATE 16.04, and proves that it is safe and stable?
[19:14] <squinty> time for him to go on ignore.....
[19:14] <squinty> thanks
[19:15] <dxsweet> list
[19:15] <pubunt_> I'm confused
[19:15] <pubunt_> so will that command check my drive's health?
[19:15] <pubunt_> condition whatever?
[19:15] <ikonia> pubunt_: you've been told what to do
[19:15] <ikonia> pubunt_: do you actually have a problem ?
[19:16] <pubunt_> I was given a command that will run fdsk on next reboot?
[19:16] <ikonia> pubunt_: yes
[19:16] <squinty> pubunt_,  it will check your file system. if you want to check the health of your disk then use smartctrl  or the Disks program
[19:16] <pubunt_> the HDD rebooting on its own is a problem to me
[19:16] <ikonia> pubunt_: "rebooting on it's own"
[19:16] <Noob2> Hi can someone help me please? I need help
[19:16] <ikonia> pubunt_: is the whole machine rebooting ? or do you have a hard disk problem
[19:17] <MonkeyDust> Noob2  start with a question
[19:17] <Noob2> Noob2
[19:17] <squinty> !ask |Noob2
[19:17] <Noob2> What article, written for novices, gives instructions for how install Cinnamon on top of Ubuntu MATE 16.04, and proves that it is safe and stable?
[19:17] <Codfection> !ak
[19:17] <Codfection> !ask
[19:18] <Optiprism> Is there a default latex distribution in ubuntu that I can use? I'm rather new to it
[19:18] <Codfection> ikonia, while streaming videos online on ubuntu. it tends to turn off screen. is there any way to possibly stop it?
[19:18] <ikonia> Optiprism: open the package manager, search for latex and you'll find the package
[19:18] <pubunt_> machine reboots in my ubuntu partition...windows will not load / loads with black screen...
[19:19] <ikonia> pubunt_: ok - so that may not be a hard disk
[19:19] <pubunt_> entire system reboots if I go to my other ubuntu partition... after a while... seems to when I open tabs in firefox
[19:19] <Noob> nacc, autohtoph, AntarticFlea: Thank you guys! Have to go
[19:19] <pubunt_> then what?
[19:20] <ikonia> pubunt_: the machine hard resetting like that, while possibly hardware, doesn't suggest a damaged hard disk/file system normally
[19:20] <Optiprism> What's the command to open the package manager? I might have lost the sidebar accidently
[19:20] <pubunt_> hmmm
[19:20] <pubunt_> but so far only hardsetting when using that partition
[19:20] <kunji> Would an error about "Missing parameter in configuration file keyword: path
[19:20] <kunji> gfxboot.c32: not a COM32R image boot:    be about no ATI card support in 16.04, or would this mean the boot USB has some other issue, this error is given repetitively at boot from the usb, before grub or anything.
[19:21] <Codfection> anyone with a solution to stop screen being turned off during online video streaming?
[19:21] <ikonia> pubunt_: thats not correct is it, as you can't boot into your windows partition, so you don' tknow if that would reset
[19:21] <pubunt_> I get a msg after reboot... but forget entire msg
[19:21] <ikonia> kunji: are you using a different grub install ?
[19:21] <squinty> Optiprism, gnome-software   for 16.04
[19:21] <Term1nal> Okay, this is becoming bothersome: http://i.imgur.com/iwhjxqf.png
[19:22] <Optiprism> thanks!
[19:22] <kunji> ikonia: I'm trying out 16.04 as created by the startup disc creator, live USB.
[19:22] <Term1nal> I continue to get this notification about updates being available, but as you can see, checking the updates screen shows the opposite.
[19:22] <pubunt_> have no idea how to diagnose it then :-/
[19:22] <ikonia> pubunt_: first thing to do - is get the facts straight when talking to people
[19:22] <kunji> ikonia: last I know of this should be grub2... but is it a quiet boot now and it's going right to the other stuff?
[19:22] <lyze> Term1nal, sudo apt-get udpate && sudo apt-get upgrade
[19:23] <ikonia> pubunt_: your problem is "my machine is hard resettings when I boot to ubuntu, I'm no longer able to boot any other OS on the disk"
[19:23] <lyze> Term1nal, try that inside the terminal c;
[19:23] <ikonia> kunji: fair enough
[19:23] <Term1nal> I did
[19:23] <Term1nal> there is nothing available
[19:23] <ikonia> pubunt_: I'd get an ubuntu liveCD/media, you'll be needing that
[19:23] <pubunt_> I might need a new one
[19:24] <pubunt_> I have to use a usb stick, right?
[19:24] <kunji> ikonia: I'll try making the liveUSB again, maybe in messed up on the last run.
[19:24] <pubunt_> what's the way to create it now?
[19:24] <ikonia> kunji: possible, but I doubt it
[19:24] <ikonia> !install | pubunt_
[19:24] <Kitty_Sec> I am new to Ubuntu
[19:24] <Term1nal> 0 upgraded, 0 newly installed, 0 to remove and 0 not upgraded.
[19:24] <Optiprism> Hey I had installed 16.04 back when it was a dev build, do I need to reinstall it or is running sudo apt update/upgrade sufficient?
[19:25] <Kitty_Sec> How do I install Ubuntu
[19:25] <ikonia> Optiprism: it should upgrade
[19:25] <Optiprism> awesome
[19:25] <ikonia> !install | kunji
[19:25] <kunji> ikonia: I've had it happen before, oh so many times, would it really complain about the GPU before even reaching grub? O.o
[19:25] <pubunt_> that's installing
[19:26] <ikonia> pubunt_: no it's not, it's making the media to install
[19:26] <ikonia> pubunt_: that media is the live media
[19:27] <abhishek> hi guys!
[19:27] <ChocolateBear> Hi all.
[19:27] <abhishek> how can I install drivers for nvidia 940m for ubuntu(kubunutu)
[19:27] <Codfection> anyone with a solution to stop screen being turned off during online video streaming?
[19:27] <abhishek> NVIDIA GeForce 940M (4 GB DDR3L dedicated)
[19:28] <Codfection> I cant watch videos properly due to screen turning off :(
[19:28] <DF3D2> hi, I have a schiit modi usb dac, never had issues with it before. But all the sudden MPD will not play, the device is hw:1,0 and is unmuted in alsamixer.
[19:28] <DF3D2> mpd says it cant find the device, but the device is listed in aplay -l
[19:28] <kunji> Codfection: Well, you could disable the screen off setting, that's easiest, but I guess you mean only for when watching video?
[19:28] <abhishek> my graphics transitions are not smooth by default.
[19:28] <ikonia> crazyhorse: isn't it just a power saving option ?
[19:28] <MonkeyDust> Codfection  howq is it your system is in that state, what was your initial question
[19:28] <Codfection> kunji, only watching videos online \
[19:29] <Term1nal> Anyone? http://i.imgur.com/iwhjxqf.png up updates available via updater or apt cli
[19:29] <Term1nal> but that notification continues to pop up on me
[19:29] <kunji> Codfection: Well that gets more complicated, you'll need to decide how you're going to determine that you are watching a video online to start with.
[19:29] <ikonia> last Term1nal
[19:29] <Codfection> MonkeyDust, while streaming online videos. screens turns off as if I am not using computer.
[19:29] <DF3D2> speaker-test -D plughw:CARD=Device,DEV=0
[19:29] <DF3D2>   <------that just played
[19:30] <pubunt_> this is not helpful
[19:30] <ikonia> pubunt_: what isn't ?
[19:30] <pubunt_> anyway, what do I need the live media for?
[19:30] <MonkeyDust> Codfection  yes but before that, you're here for some time now
[19:30] <Term1nal> between this and the other little nagging issues I'm having with 16.04 thus far.... I'm quite displeased with this release.
[19:30] <ikonia> pubunt_: to run diags
[19:30] <dbz2k> what does "OEM Priority Project" mean on bugs
[19:30] <dbz2k> the one bug I am following got moved there
[19:30] <Codfection> MonkeyDust, any help regarding that?
[19:30] <pubunt_> that page
[19:31] <pubunt_> not useful
[19:31] <ikonia> pubunt_: it is
[19:31] <pubunt_> I am used to using dd though
[19:31] <Term1nal> ikonia: what?
[19:31] <ikonia> pubunt_: it tells you how to make install media
[19:31] <ikonia> Term1nal: sorry, it was a typo
[19:31] <artway> hi
[19:31] <Thor> I have a local dns server running on my firewall which has a records for other machines on my network, I've installed 16.04 on my pc, but for some reason I can not resolve any hosts on the local domain, I've noticed that dnsmasq is installed as what I guess is a lxc container. I haven't been able to find much information on how it's controlled or configured though, any pointers would be nice.
[19:31] <BrAsS_mOnKeY> hello artway :D
[19:32] <ikonia> Thor: what you said just doesn't make sense
[19:33] <ikonia> Thor: you have a dns server - great, you have a 16.04 client, great, what are you on about dnsmasq and guessing its lxc
[19:33] <kunji> Codfections: On phones there is an OS api that the app calls to request the screen remains on, I'm not sure if this exists for Ubuntu (anyone else know?).  Assuming there isn't, if you know which things you want to check for you can set up some bash scripts (or others) to toggle the power saving settings automatically for you.
[19:33] <ikonia> Thor: can the 16.04 client connect to the dns servers ip / port
[19:35] <juime> i have posted some posts to bug reports
[19:35] <juime> how can i delete them
[19:35] <zykotick9> Codfection: you might want to try running "xset -dpms && xset dpms off && xset s noblank" then see if it happens?  <- that's from pretty old notes...  good luck.
[19:35] <Thor> ikonia: yes, dig a host.domain.local @fw-ip works as expected, but doing eg. host host or host.domain.local does not resolve, despite fw assinging IPs to the client and include the fw-ip as nameserver to be used
[19:36] <ikonia> Thor: look at the dns server - are the records in the zone file
[19:36] <ikonia> Thor: the other thing to look at is, what is the name server the ubuntu client is pointing at
[19:36] <abhishek> any ideas?
[19:36] <ikonia> Thor: you've just done dig @ telling it where to look, where is it looking to by default
[19:36] <Caelum> what's the best way of dealing with "hash sum mismatch" errors from apt-get update
[19:36] <ikonia> Caelum: use a different mirror
[19:37] <Caelum> I get them sporadically from perfectly good mirrors
[19:37] <Caelum> even official ones
[19:37] <ikonia> Caelum: then something is causing the files to not match the hash
[19:37] <kunji> xset is nice, but I can't remember if that works for video.. like that?  I was thinking some script would need to call some xset stuff.  I always have mine set to never....
[19:37] <ikonia> Caelum: maybe your ISP is using a transparant proxy/caching
[19:37] <Thor> ikonia: yes, all other hosts on the network can resolve the entire domain.local domain fine, the client's /etc/resolv.conf is pointing at 127.0.1.1 which lead me to look for a local dnsmasq or similar instance, which is present: https://gist.github.com/thorerik/5026afd4eb6946978fc188566866248c
[19:37] <ikonia> Thor: ok, so if it's resoling to dnsmasq, what name server is dnsmasq using
[19:37] <Caelum> ikonia: interesting thanks
[19:38] <Thor> ikonia: that's what I'm wondering, cause there doesn't seem to be any dnsmasq config files in /etc
[19:38] <ikonia> Thor: is it a desktop or a server ?
[19:38] <abhishek> should this work http://www.nvidia.com/download/driverResults.aspx/83686/en-us?
[19:38] <juime> can i delete posts in bugs.launchpad?
[19:38] <kunji> Thor: is this not in the hosts file anymore?... it's been a while for me, my memory on this is fuzzy.
[19:39] <ikonia> nothing should be in the host file
[19:39] <Thor> ikonia: desktop
[19:39] <ikonia> Thor: so I'm assuming you're using network manager then
[19:39] <kunji> ikonia: Ah, that's right, it's created dynamically these days?
[19:39] <Thor> ikonia: https://gist.github.com/thorerik/5ba2c0bb6dd38d12000c19fa0ccf7262 these are the only configs I can find related to dnsmasq
[19:39] <ikonia> kunji: the hostfile is always a static file
[19:39] <juime> can i delete posts in bugs.launchpad?
[19:39] <ikonia> Thor: are you using network manager ?
[19:40] <bberg> Hey - new to linux and trying to downgrade Bluez from 5.xx to 4.xx. I check synaptic and check apt-cache, but don't see 4.xx there. I have a 4.101.tar file, but not sure how to install. Anyone have any suggestions?
[19:40] <abhishek> are there better ways except no using .run file
[19:40] <wad> I'm regretting upgrading to 16.04. The loss of the ability to set the title of gnome-terminal tabs is almost fatal. I currently have 12 tabs open, and am putting sticky notes on the top of my monitor to keep track of which ones are doing what. >_<
[19:40] <xangua> wad: install another terminal emulator?
[19:40] <Thor> ikonia: looks like that, it's a mostly stock installlation
[19:40] <juime> can i delete posts in bugs.launchpad?
[19:41] <wad> xangua, can you recommend one? I've come to love my gnome-terminal.
[19:41] <ikonia> Thor: so if it's using network manager, you should be able to see something like /etc/NetworkManager/config/dnsmasq.d
[19:41] <ikonia> Thor: I don't have a box to verify but it's somewhere in there
[19:41] <ikonia> Thor: if you do ps -ef | grep dnsmasq you'll see network manager is spawning dnsmasq for you
[19:41] <bindi> what encryption does the guided lvm + encryption on ubuntu 16.04 use?
[19:41] <teward> juime: I don't think users can, if it's a bug report that should not have been filed just Invalid it, if it's a comment you want removed you may be able to hide it.  If neither case applies, maybe ask #launchpad for admins to poke it?
[19:42] <zykotick9> abhishek: i posted #debian's "why nvidia installer sucks" to http://paste.ubuntu.com/16396871/ it applies to ubuntu as well...  you've been warned.
[19:42] <MonkeyDust> wad  MATE has plenty 'old school' features, like setting the terminal tab title and F3 multipane in the file manager
[19:42] <Term1nal> wad: I'm regretting it as well.
[19:43] <Thor> ikonia: there's some config folders for dnsmasq in /etc/NetworkManager, but those are empty
[19:43] <juime> teward: ok thanks
[19:43] <ikonia> Thor: if you do "ps -ef | grep dnsmasq" can you pastebin what you see
[19:43] <Term1nal> Certificate exceptions won't persist, credentials to network mounted directories won't persist in files manager, ubuntu keeps telling me I have phantom updates via an annoying notification every few minutes despite needing no updates
[19:44] <MonkeyDust> wad  i guess you simply do'nt like unity
[19:44] <kunji> The goal here is to find which DNS is being used at the moment?  GUI or none?
[19:44] <Thor> ikonia: https://gist.github.com/thorerik/9bd2e2aa792c28deca9f751af06ca3c9
[19:44] <dbz2k> can dnsmaq cause delay dns lookup
[19:44] <dbz2k> it sometimes take a sec on looking up domain
[19:44] <juime> teward: does deleting the account also deletes the comments?
[19:44] <ikonia> Thor: ok, so it's using the files in /etc/NetworkManager/dnsmasq.d
[19:44] <wad> I'm okay with everything else. But why, WHY, did they remove a useful feature in gnome-terminal? *sob*
[19:45] <teward> juime: #launchpad is your source for Launchpad questions like that
[19:45] <ikonia> Thor: I'm curious why you have lxc-dns user on your system, that is not a default ubuntu install
[19:45] <Thor> ikonia: yep, but that's empty: https://gist.github.com/thorerik/1eec2a02471cea4f436098cbaedc7bce
[19:45] <Term1nal> wad: canonical seems to have a fetish for removing features needlessly
[19:45] <xangua> wad: that would be a question for gnome developers, not ubuntu
[19:45] <Term1nal> wad: My guess, it's burried somewhere in the depths of gconf
[19:45] <xangua> Term1nal: lol
[19:45] <ikonia> Thor: you appear to have two dnsmasq daemons running
[19:46] <Term1nal> gnome developers too
[19:46] <Term1nal> screw them
[19:46] <ikonia> Thor: the one spawned by network manager (as it should be) and then one being spawned by lxc-dns user
[19:47] <mlenthu> Hi, I have one silly question related to CUDA. Do I need to install nvidia drivers in order to run CUDA on ubuntu? Or is CUDA self contained?
[19:48] <Thor> ikonia: For some reason I guess I've assumed it forked, but thinking back dnsmasq doesn't do that, does it? that'd explain stuff
[19:48] <ikonia> mlenthu: nothing silly about that, I thought Cuda was included in the standard supplied modules, but it's worth clarifying
[19:48] <ikonia> Thor: is this your physical hardware ?
[19:48] <ikonia> Thor: and no it doesn't fork like that
[19:48] <Thor> ikonia: yes
[19:48] <ikonia> Thor: have you installed any lxc container stuff ?
[19:50] <Thor> I have, but I'm relatively certain I saw that running previously as well…
[19:50] <ikonia> Thor: so this is not a "default desktop install" as you said
[19:50] <Thor> I'll dig a bit on my own, I think you spotted the pebcak ikonia
[19:50] <ikonia> installing virtualization containers is pretty "non-default"
[19:50] <Thor> mostly default
[19:50] <ikonia> no, it's not
[19:51] <mlenthu> So is it possible to run CUDA without installing nvidia drivers?
[19:53] <ikonia> mlenthu: you need to install the nvidia modules yes,
[19:53] <ikonia> I don't think you need the cuda specific ones though any more (I'm not %100) - it's worth reading the info on nvidia.com
[19:54] <mlenthu> ikonia : thanks, will check.
[19:55] <Thor> ikonia: hold on… the lxc-dnsmasq shouldn't interfer anyways since it's listening to 10.0.1.1 and NM's is listening on 127.0.1.1, which /etc/resolv.conf is pointing to, so the curious part is where's it's configs that define the nameserver resolvers for it?
[19:57] <fachex> hey all! good morning, afternoon, evening!
[19:58] <fachex> I hope someone can answer. I just install U-server, LAMP and Wordpress. All is good, except por 80 is ONLY being listened in ipv6.. So I can access the site from the LAN but not from outside.
[19:59] <fachex> it's all install by default, I don't know why would it have that kind of configuration
[19:59] <abhishek> zykotick9, makes sense. Then what is the ideal way? I am having a hard-time finding the package for my card. (NVIDIA GeForce 940M (4 GB DDR3L dedicated))
[20:00] <OerHeks> Thor, https://inuits.eu/blog/dns-ubuntu-lxc small help for starting with adding namecerver and set .lxd as the domain name for containers
[20:01] <DF3D2> why can I play audio with: speaker-test -c -2 -D plughw:CARD=Device,DEV=0  yet MPD "wont find" the same card
[20:02] <Thor> OerHeks: lxc was a red-herring, I'm struggling with local dns resolution handled by my firewall, dnsmasq spawned by NM doesn't seem to forward requests to the firewall, and hence lookups of *.domain.local fails unless I do eg. dig a host.domain.local @firewall
[20:04] <OerHeks> Thor, what happens when you perform sudo resolvconf -u
[20:04] <abhishek> any ideas guys? apt-cache show is much helpful here too.
[20:05] <Thor> OerHeks: that fixed it
[20:05] <MonkeyDust> OerHeks  +1
[20:05] <OerHeks> Thor, now see what is set wrong ..
[20:06] <tgm4883> Thor: so it's all working now?
[20:06] <Thor> OerHeks: resolv.conf looks to be the same as it was before
[20:07] <zykotick9> abhishek: sorry, i have no real suggestions..  best of luck, i just wanted to point out the danger of using nvidia.com's driver.  good luck!
[20:08] <mrasker> hello, i can't connect to the internet wit my other computer. Network manager crashed just after login.
[20:08] <mrasker> Everything worked fine in the morning
[20:08] <OerHeks> Thor, hmm i would trow networkmanager out, as i want working with containers staticly
[20:10] <Thor> OerHeks: for me it's more of a curiosity, most of my work resides in VMs and docker containers on other machines
[20:11] <squinty> mrasker: maybe take a look at http://askubuntu.com/questions/727127/last-upgrade-crashes-network-manager-no-internet-connection-no-applet/727462#727462   there have been several enquiries regarding net-manager issues this fine day.....some reported they fixed the issue by following that page
[20:11] <autotroph> mrasker: http://askubuntu.com/questions/727127/last-upgrade-crashes-network-manager-no-internet-connection-no-applet/727462#727462
[20:11] <autotroph> oops
[20:11] <autotroph> squinty helped me out this morning
[20:12] <mrasker> it was after today's update.
[20:12] <mrasker> now i can't update without internet. omg. its the end of the word.
[20:13] <autotroph> yeah same here but i fixed it
[20:14] <autotroph> i think i woke up in the middle of the night and ate some chicken
[20:14] <akik> Thor: lxc can access your normal dhcp/dns server through your host. i'm using static ip's with lxc
[20:14] <autotroph> while i was eating i saw a new software update, so i clicked on it
[20:15] <autotroph> so many things revolve around chicken
[20:18] <MonkeyDust> chicken ftw
[20:19] <autotroph> it's crazy
[20:22] <yoloooo> yoyoyo
[20:22] <mrasker> thank you squinty . Your answer worked for me! Thanks a lot
[20:22] <mrasker> I love the people here. I love linux
[20:23] <yoloooo> Can someone tell me why my persistent live usb key works with the casper-rw file but wont boot if i set it with a casper-rw partition?
[20:29] <OerHeks> yolooo maybe you have this problem https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/casper/+bug/1489855
[20:29] <OerHeks> oh
[20:38] <kthuno> Hi all. Got a bit of a problem with courier package (pop3) after upgrading to Xenial. Its saying "ERR Temporary problem, please try again later". Anyone with experiences?
[20:43] <autotroph> well it is too bad that ubuntu randomly seems to break
[20:43] <autotroph> once in a while
[20:43] <autotroph> no way could my mom use it
[20:43] <autotroph> for me i don't really mind
[20:44] <jumpkick> Does 16.04 work with Core 2 CPUs?  I have 2 desktop machines and the USB boot gets stuck after selecting “Try Ubuntu without installing” is selected
[20:45] <B0g4r7_> How can I fix my USB?  Only the USB 3.0 ports work for me to connect the kb/mouse to.  All the USB 2 ports produce "failure to enumerate, device not accepting address" in dmesg.
[20:46] <Darkelfjuggalo> is anyone having trouble installing 3rd Party Software in 16.04 LTS through the Software Center? I've had the Software center freeze trying to install Chrome [I know Chromium is an Option, but it's outdated from what others have said] and Skype... the install icon appears on the unity bar like it is waiting for a password but the prompt never appears to put the password in.
[20:46] <B0g4r7_> The USB 2 ports work fine for the keyboard in the bios and in grub.  Just not in linux.
[20:47] <OerHeks> yeah, chrome has install issues due to LSB packages no longer exist
[20:47] <B0g4r7_> http://pastebin.com/kD3fsaDu
[20:48] <zykotick9> jumpkick: how did you create the USB?
[20:48] <Darkelfjuggalo> what about Skype, OerHeks?
[20:48] <dupondje> Anyone knows a good lastpass alternative (preferred free), where you can share passwords between users
[20:48] <OerHeks> https://productforums.google.com/forum/#!topic/chrome/oqnwWyiAvWg
[20:48] <OerHeks> skype i don't know
[20:48] <DF3D2> ugh my sound is broken. ;-|
[20:48] <Darkelfjuggalo> what is the Command line for installing a .deb package
[20:49] <jumpkick> zykotick9: Using “Start-up Disk Creator” from a chromebox running 16.04 using the ISO that installed that chromebox
[20:49] <DF3D2> Darkelfjuggalo, sudo dpkg -i name.deb
[20:49] <syn-programmer> hello
[20:49] <el3ctron> el3ctron is online
[20:49] <zykotick9> jumpkick: interesting...  sorry, i was just confirming it wasn't unetbootin.  i've got nothin'.  good luck.
[20:49] <tgm4883> dupondje: keepass
[20:50] <dupondje> tgm4883: well tries keepassx, but there isn't very much a different user thing or so ... :)
[20:50] <akik> jumpkick: you could try some boot options when booting up
[20:50] <akik> jumpkick: it's not about the cpus
[20:51] <jumpkick> zykotick9, akik:  oh, it just started the desktop…   after 14 minutes!  :\
[20:53] <Darkelfjuggalo> Do i need to use the Multiarch on a 64Bit? the 32-Bit is having Errors and there is no option specifically for 64 Bit
[20:53] <DF3D2> Darkelfjuggalo, yes try that
[20:55] <syn-programmer>  /msg NickServ VERIFY REGISTER syn-programmer uvfucjdjakfx
[20:55] <DF3D2> lol
[20:55] <DF3D2> o_O
[20:55] <xangua> syn-programmer: no numbers/symbols?
[20:57] <syn-programmer> Oh I cannot put -
[20:58] <DF3D2> so I upgraded a 15.10 to 16.04 via do-release-upgrade
[20:58] <DF3D2> now on the HDTV I have hooked up it stops "started user manager UID 123"
[20:58] <DF3D2> does not start GDM, even tho I can SSH in and see gdm is running
[20:59] <sentionics> Hey guys, I'm new to using iptables, and my client's site is getting dos'd by two IP's. I tried adding them to iptables with: /sbin/iptables -I INPUT -s $SOURCEIP -j DROP
[20:59] <DF3D2> [  2644.475] (WW) xf86CloseConsole: KDSETMODE failed: Input/output error
[20:59] <DF3D2> [  2644.475] (WW) xf86CloseConsole: VT_GETMODE failed: Input/output error
[20:59] <DF3D2> [  2644.475] (WW) xf86CloseConsole: VT_ACTIVATE failed: Input/output error
[20:59] <DF3D2> sentionics, add them to /etc/hosts.deny
[21:00] <sentionics> unfortunately, the hits are still coming through despite iptables -L INPUT -v -n listing the drop rule (the only actual rules in place at the moment)
[21:00] <DF3D2> what do you mean coming through?
[21:00] <sentionics> thanks DF3D2, I'll give that a try.
[21:01] <sentionics> DF3D2: tcptrack -i eth0 port 80
[21:01] <sentionics> that command shows them still hitting 80 over and over
[21:02] <DF3D2> im no expert but even if the packets are dropped wont you still see it in logs?
[21:02] <DF3D2> it just drops it so they can't connect
[21:02] <sentionics> I see.
[21:02] <punkoivan> try to use reject for this IP.
[21:02] <DF3D2> yeah, reject.
[21:02] <sentionics> oh, so reject instead of drop
[21:02] <punkoivan> reject send answer
[21:03] <punkoivan> and ok
[21:03] <tgm4883> sounds like a case for fail2ban
[21:04] <synProgrammer> hey
[21:04] <synProgrammer> Hola
[21:05] <punkoivan> hey
[21:05] <sentionics> http://www.chiark.greenend.org.uk/~peterb/network/drop-vs-reject
[21:05] <sentionics> looking at this, looks like the only real differences between reject and drop is that reject just sends back an icmp packet.
[21:06] <punkoivan> yep
[21:06] <punkoivan> when host receive answer, it usually stop asking.
[21:06] <DF3D2> punkoivan, except they are ddosing
[21:07] <DF3D2> so that just makes them know they are hitting the target
[21:08] <tgm4883> IMO, drop would be better than reject
[21:09] <punkoivan> ok, so fail2ban is solution?
[21:09] <tgm4883> fail2ban is likely the better solution
[21:10] <sentionics> I'll read about fail2ban
[21:11] <sentionics> but it sounds like it's just going to use iptables anyway.
[21:11] <tgm4883> sentionics: yes it does, but it does it automatically for you
[21:11] <tgm4883> sentionics: eg. when it detects stuff like this, it just start dropping their packets
[21:11] <sentionics> essentially, beyond using the firewall, it's hard to stop someone from hitting your server with packets.
[21:11] <gebbione> hi folks, i cannot get my ethernet started on my desktop. The adapter light is off and trying to run network restart won't work
[21:12] <tgm4883> sentionics: well you can either use a firewall or stop listening on those ports
[21:12] <sentionics> at the moment I'm using mod_evasive with apache, but I'm seeing the hits going crazy from those IP's anyway.
[21:12] <synProgrammer>  /msg NickServ VERIFY REGISTER syn-programmer uvfucjdjakfx
[21:13] <DF3D2> synProgrammer, why do you keep doing that
[21:13] <tgm4883> sentionics: just looked at mod_evasive, not sure why someone would want to use that over fail2ban
[21:13] <sentionics> didn't see it before learning of fail2ban
[21:13] <sentionics> *didn't see fail2ban before I tried it
[21:15] <Bashing-om> gebbione: 14.04 release ? and updates broke network-manager ?
[21:16] <gebbione> Bashing-om, yes
[21:16] <gebbione> most likely
[21:16] <juime> DF3D2: cause he is a fail troll
[21:16] <gebbione> Bashing-om, running nm-applet does not work. Icon doesn't start
[21:18] <nastia> hi, guys! Why I can't create wifi network in networkmanager with wpa2 security. It propose me only wep =\
[21:18] <Bashing-om> gebbione: : https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/network-manager/+bug/1539634 ... maybe an easier fix as related here : http://askubuntu.com/questions/771627/14-04-network-manager-stopped-working/771841#771841 . Please advise us .
[21:18] <nacc> i think the official fix is going through now, just fyi ...
[21:19] <OerHeks> try in terminal: systemctl enable NetworkManager.service
[21:19] <nastia> I want to create adhoc network
[21:20] <SynProgrammer95> Hello
[21:20] <SynProgrammer95> Am i Here?
[21:20] <SynProgrammer95> I don't really know
[21:20] <nastia> SynProgrammer95: yeap
[21:20] <Bashing-om> nacc: Lemme check for bug update . thanks .
[21:20] <SynProgrammer95> Oh thanks
[21:21] <SynProgrammer95> I'm new on IRC
[21:22] <nacc> Bashing-om: might be mentioned in LP: #1581535
[21:22] <djob> does anybody know how to reach to the some serious hackers IRC channels?
[21:22] <hosified> djob: what you want?
[21:22] <nomic> of
[21:22] <nacc> Bashing-om: i'm guessing many bugs were filed and lots of dupes are in lp :)
[21:23] <hosified> not many hackers are going to use public IRC channels.
[21:23] <djob> hosified, i really want real informations.. there are some things going on..
[21:24] <hosified> djob: nobody is going to respond to you in a public IRC channel
[21:24] <Bashing-om> nacc: I bet ^ ! .. currently " This bug was fixed in the package network-manager - 0.9.8.8-0ubuntu7.3 " and that package is now in the repo : " sysop@1404mini:~$ apt list network-manager >> network-manager/trusty-updates 0.9.8.8-0ubuntu7.3 amd64 " .
[21:24] <tgm4883> That's kinda like "If you have to ask the price, it's too expensive"
[21:24] <djob> yes, i known that..
[21:24] <djob> but.
[21:24] <djob> that's the catch
[21:24] <tgm4883> djob: so you know, yet you are still asking?
[21:25] <hosified> go find some forum and post on that through a proxy...stop being stupid
[21:25] <nacc> Bashing-om: yeah, i guess the underlying bug was the two packages had to be upgraded together and libnl got pushed out first :/
[21:26] <hosified> and i'm not trying to be an ass, just an honest answer
[21:27] <tgm4883> nacc: sounds like missing dependencies
[21:27] <Bashing-om> nacc: :) .. Pleased you have the accumen to know the cause . And I am glad you said .
[21:28] <nacc> Bashing-om: just following along in #ubuntu-release :)
[21:28] <nacc> tgm4883: yeah, it should have been a versioned break in nm, i guess
[21:28] <nacc> tgm4883: so the new version will have that, so the two packages upgrade together
[21:32] <neo_> hi
[21:32] <neo_> can't get my wacom leds switch to reflecte activated mode
[21:32] <padilla> hola
[21:33] <padilla> algun español
[21:33] <neo_> my config : ubuntu 16.04 fresh install / wacom intuos pro small pth-451
[21:33] <neo_> no espanol
[21:33] <tgm4883> !es | padilla
[21:36] <Queenslayer> Hi everybody
[21:36] <neo_> any help?
[21:36] <gebbione> Bashing-om, i cannot select Enable networking
[21:36] <gebbione> it goes back to the options
[21:39] <juackparrot> hi
[21:40] <juackparrot> usr is 3GB var 585.7MB
[21:40] <juackparrot> cache is 347.5mb
[21:40] <neo_> hi
[21:40] <juackparrot> i have ubuntu 16.04 and it's not good. I need help I am trying to download repository. And now it showed me that ubuntu disk is full. (im using virtualbox) and i add 8gb
[21:42] <gebbione> Bashing-om, i cannot select Enable networking, it was going back to the options but it let the networking work
[21:42] <gebbione> done an update
[21:42] <gebbione> and now nm-applet is back
[21:42] <gebbione> cheers
[21:43] <juackparrot> a
[21:43] <juackparrot> test
[21:43] <juackparrot> 123
[21:43] <juackparrot> anyone see this message?
[21:43] <Queenslayer> yes
[21:44] <nacc> juackparrot: what do you mean you were "trying to download repository"? Do you mean `apt-get update`?
[21:44] <juackparrot> no
[21:44] <juackparrot> ] neo_ [~neo@41.224.138.88] requested CTCP DCC from juackparrot: CHAT chat 3232235782 43639 [12:44] <juackparrot> wtf
[21:45] <juackparrot> it's very slow!!!!!!! 723 KiB/s
[21:45] <juackparrot> windows is slow
[21:45] <juackparrot> git clone
[21:46] <nacc> juackparrot: i don't particularly care about windows, nor is this the right channel for support for windows
[21:46] <juackparrot> nacc: but ubuntu is slow
[21:46] <nacc> juackparrot: you're not giving very clear information to help, unfortunately
[21:46] <juackparrot> :/
[21:47] <juackparrot> you are complaining to much, you do not let me to explain.
[21:47] <juackparrot> i submit a report
[21:47] <nacc> juackparrot: git-clone's speed is not determined by the OS
[21:47] <juackparrot> ubuntu said I'm out of space
[21:47] <tgm4883> juackparrot: please don't use the enter key as punctuation
[21:47] <juackparrot> tgm4883: i don't.
[21:48] <tgm4883> the last 4 minutes of this channels life begs to differ
[21:48] <nacc> juackparrot: ok, so were you out of space? what was using up all your disk?
[21:48] <juackparrot> usr 3GB cache 347MB
[21:48] <tgm4883> juackparrot: can you pastebin the output of 'df -h'
[21:49] <nacc> juackparrot: those are two arbitrary directories (presumably)'s sizes.
[21:50] <juackparrot> udev 1.5 GB ... tmpfs 300MB used 4.9MB ... /dev/sda1 Size 4.9GB used 4.2G and many tmpfs used
[21:50] <tgm4883> !pastebin
[21:51] <juackparrot> paste.ubuntu.com/16399238/
[21:51] <juackparrot> ^
[21:51] <neo_> Any help with my wacom tablet leds?
[21:52] <tgm4883> juackparrot: you have a tiny drive
[21:52] <nacc> juackparrot: ok, so most of your / partition is in-use, but there's ~400M free still; if the repository you are trying to clone is larger, it won't fit
[21:52] <juackparrot> how to check size of repository?
[21:53] <nacc> juackparrot: i mean, you're probably going to run out of space in general at this point, eventually
[21:53] <juackparrot> but i didn't do anything
[21:53] <juackparrot> :S
[21:53] <nacc> juackparrot: i don't believe there is a way to remotely determine the size of a git repository
[21:54] <tgm4883> nacc: if it's github, he could query the API
[21:54] <tgm4883> but I think you are right, nothing directly via git
[21:55] <tgm4883> juackparrot: what repo?
[21:55] <nacc> tgm4883: ah didnt know github exported it, makes sense that they would, though
[21:55] <neo_> git count-objects -v
[21:55] <tgm4883> neo_: for a repo that you haven't cloned yet
[21:57] <nacc> yeah, i don't think you can 'peek' at the remote like that
[21:57] <Codfection> guys whats the command to search for softwares that are installed
[21:57] <Codfection> lookup bla.etc?
[21:57] <Codfection> lookup doesnt work
[21:58] <tgm4883> Codfection: what do you mean? You can search for files with "locate" but that doesn't show you what packages are installed
[21:58] <Bashing-om> Codfection: ' dpkg -l <package> ' ?
[21:59] <YankDownUnder> Codfection, "sudo apt search <package string>"
[21:59] <nacc> Codfection: you want to search only over things installed? or over all possible packages?
[22:04] <zykotick9> YankDownUnder: fyi, "apt search FOO" doesn't need sudo...
[22:06] <nastia> why I cant create with WPA2 security wifi network
[22:06] <nastia> ?
[22:06] <nastia> only wep
[22:24] <_jay1> Hey all, having some wireless issues, broke yesterday (Mom's computer, so info isn't the best :) ) Was working, the update yesterday went slowly, not working today. I've tried so far: plug wifi adapter (USB) into different ports, 2 other wifi adapters, booted into 2 previous kernels using grub, many reboots...
[22:25] <nacc> _jay1: was it 14.04?
[22:25] <_jay1> yes
[22:25] <nacc> _jay1: there was unfortunately an update that went out in 14.04 that broke nm, if you can get it networked normally (ethernet) then you can fix it by applying the latest updates
[22:26] <nacc> Bashing-om: do you have the workaround link?
[22:26] <_jay1> I'm going to have to do it manually by transferring from usb- is there a place to get the fix?
[22:27] <nacc> _jay1: i think what's in the archives now, presuming uptodate, is correct
[22:27] <Bashing-om> nacc: _jay1 : this may be the easier fix : http://askubuntu.com/questions/771627/14-04-network-manager-stopped-working/771841#771841 ,
[22:27] <OerHeks> https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/network-manager/+bug/1539634  http://askubuntu.com/questions/771627/14-04-network-manager-stopped-working/771841#771841
[22:27] <nacc> Bashing-om: thanks, i'll bookmrk that as i think it'll be a faq :)
[22:29] <autotroph> this is the fix that worked for me: http://askubuntu.com/questions/727127/last-upgrade-crashes-network-manager-no-internet-connection-no-applet/727462#727462
[22:29] <Bashing-om> _jay1: The package you want if going the manual route : https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/network-manager/0.9.8.8-0ubuntu7.3
[22:29] <_jay1> Nice thanks for all the info it's appreciated
[22:30] <Bashing-om> _jay1: NP .. help is what we do .
[22:44] <Kruser328> Hey, during booting I get this error message: lvmetad is not active yet, using direct activation during sysinit
[22:44] <Kruser328> Can somebody help me?
[22:46] <marw> Hello, I am a new ubuntu user. Version 14.04. I just bought a wireless mouse 2.4 GHz but it wont work. Already connected it to various USB ports but nothing. I run the lsusb but I dont understand the results... I would appreciate any help given. Thanks in advance!
[22:51] <PaulVern> Linux networking/vpn question:  I have a raspberry pi2 setup with the openvpn client running
[22:51] <PaulVern> and the iptable setting to allow masquerading/forwarding
[22:51] <PaulVern> I set the default gateway on my computers/phones at home (Windows 8.1, Ubuntu, Meego (phone) and my TV) to the IP of my raspberry pi
[22:51] <PaulVern> and my traffic goes through the VPN, all good
[22:51] <PaulVern> but sometimes if the VPN drops out, then reconnects, these devices end up going directly to the internet
[22:52] <PaulVern> (through my router)
[22:52] <PaulVern> I can fix this by rebooting the devices or restarting the network service
[22:52] <PaulVern> how is this happening (ignoring the default gateway setting), and how can I prevent it?
[22:56] <le_general> Hi!
[22:57] <probo> hi all
[22:57] <OerHeks> PaulVern, so you look for an keep-alive option, not sure where to look for
[22:58] <probo> i want be show my new song and simple blender animation
[22:58] <probo> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_vJeyXmeKP0
[22:59] <probo> what you see about this music and clip?
[22:59] <probo> what you think
[23:01] <ac1dh0n3ycl0ud> I think that's totally off topic and also I'm not sure what language it is but it's pretty neat
[23:01] <ac1dh0n3ycl0ud> Polish?
[23:01] <probo> polish
[23:01] <ac1dh0n3ycl0ud> Neat my name is Polish
[23:02] <ac1dh0n3ycl0ud> and the bee needs more hair
[23:02] <probo> i dont want lyrics opinion
[23:02] <probo> only music
[23:03] <ac1dh0n3ycl0ud> I said it was neat...
[23:03] <probo> i see now
[23:03] <probo> thanks
[23:05] <ac1dh0n3ycl0ud> I think the music is the best part
[23:05] <_jay1> nacc, Bashing-om, OerHeks- mom's wifi is up and running, son saved the day (with some help of course) :D thanks again!
[23:05] <nacc> _jay1: great!
[23:05] <probo> i know
[23:05] <probo> animation its not special
[23:06] <bazhang> !ot | probo ac1dh0n3ycl0ud
[23:06] <probo> but its only my passion
[23:07] <probo> ok so only talk about ubuntu problems
[23:07] <bazhang> yes
[23:08] <probo> i thinking its open chanel not only support
[23:08] <bazhang> #ubuntu-offtopic please probo
[23:08] <probo> i see now
[23:11] <bamboso> is there anyone??
[23:11] <badis> hi ^^
[23:11] <bamboso> ??
[23:11] <badis> im here
[23:11] <bamboso> where are you from??
[23:12] <badis> algiers
[23:12] <bamboso> ok
[23:12] <badis> i have a question , may i ?
[23:12] <bamboso> ok,what is??
[23:14] <badis> well let's say i have a big library collection of ebooks videos tutorials operation systems images ... that i downloaded since last few years and now im complitly confused the way i should orginiz it
[23:14] <badis> any idea ?
[23:14] <Welkin> network manager problems anyone?
[23:14] <nacc> Welkin: yes, there are updates that fixed a regression in 14.04
[23:14] <Welkin> how did this happen?
[23:14] <badis> im talking about some 950 Gb of data
[23:14] <Welkin> there are updates?
[23:15] <Welkin> but I cannot connect to the internet on that machine
[23:15] <nacc> Welkin: http://askubuntu.com/questions/771627/14-04-network-manager-stopped-working/771841#771841
[23:15] <Welkin> yeah, I read that
[23:15] <Welkin> too many different options
[23:15] <squinty> badis, for ebooks -> calibre
[23:15] <Welkin> I tried some and they didn't work
[23:15] <nacc> there is one option
[23:15] <nacc> that i just linked to
[23:15] <nacc> Welkin: and it works already
[23:16] <Welkin> I tried that
[23:16] <Welkin> doesn't work
[23:16] <squinty> http://askubuntu.com/questions/727127/last-upgrade-crashes-network-manager-no-internet-connection-no-applet/727462#727462
[23:16] <Welkin> I get to step 3 and then it just gives me a console that I have to force quit
[23:16] <nacc> Welkin: squinty's link may work, as well
[23:17] <cosmin> hello
[23:17] <squinty> there were several people who solved their problems with the second link
[23:17] <Welkin> okay, so I have to download the files, put them on some external storage, then install them
[23:17] <cosmin> you can tell me a linux distro better than ubuntu mate?
[23:17] <Welkin> what a pain in the ass
[23:18] <Bashing-om> Welkin: If you are handy, you can manually install the updated network-manager : https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/network-manager/0.9.8.8-0ubuntu7.3 .
[23:18] <Welkin> I'm wondering if I should switch to another distro because of the constant problems with ubuntu
[23:18] <Welkin> I used LTS for a reason, but even LTS is not safe
[23:18] <nacc> "constant" ... sounds like FUD
[23:19] <cosmin> what linux distro dosn't have problems?
[23:19] <tgm4883> Welkin: you're complaints have been noted. Threatening volunteers that you might change distro's changes nothing
[23:19] <dax> cosmin: Debian, in my experience.
[23:19] <Welkin> sure, there aren't daily problems, but I expect an LTS distro to not break fundamental partso f the system, like the network
[23:19] <dax> but perhaps that's because they do (more?) testing before pushing updates out
[23:19] <bencc> how can I make two hdd drives behave as if I have one large drive?
[23:20] <tgm4883> Welkin: A mistake was made
[23:20] <cosmin> debian better than ubuntu mate?
[23:20] <Bashing-om> Welkin: I have been with ubuntu since 6.06 = yeah 6.06 - .. all my problems have been self inflicted .
[23:21] <Welkin> I appreciate the work that everyone does for linux/gnu/ubuntu, but it's frustrating when you expect something to work and it doesn't
[23:22] <cosmin> and on the debian you have so much apps like on ubuntu?
[23:22] <tgm4883> Welkin: You've aired your frustration, can we get on to fixing the issue now?
[23:22] <gsker> bencc: lvm2?
[23:22] <OerHeks> Welkin, just curious, do you have proposed updates enabled ?
[23:22] <Welkin> OerHeks: no
[23:22] <OerHeks> Welkin, oke, thanks.
[23:22] <marw> Can anybody answer my previous question please?...
[23:22] <Welkin> I am using xubuntu, to be specific, not that is should matter
[23:23] <gsker> marw: repeat it, I guess?
[23:23] <Bashing-om> Welkin: Note that the current crises started but yesterday, and the fix is alreay committed .
[23:24] <theShirbiny> marw, what question?
[23:24] <badis> well let's say i have a big library collection of ebooks videos tutorials operation systems images ... that i downloaded since last few years and now im complitly confused the way i should orginiz it
[23:24] <badis>  any idea ?
[23:25] <bazhang> badis, you got told calibre for ebooks
[23:25] <bazhang> !info calibre | badis
[23:26] <br0seph> hi guys, im pretty new to ubuntu and im new to this channel. any hearthstone players in here who knows about a fast way to install/play hearthstone on ubuntu? (im currently using ubuntu mate)
[23:26] <marw> I use 14,04 ubuntu, i am a new user by the way so please excuse my lack of knowledge. Just bought a wireless mouse 2,4 GHz but it won't work. I replugged it to the different USB ports, run the lsusb where xenta appears but I dont know what to do more.
[23:27] <gsker> marw: what do you mean by "xenta"?
[23:27] <badis> i do know calibre well , the problem that there is so much directories and there is so much ebooks in archive format zip rar ... that it is painfull to add them all manualy one by one and i dont know any option in calibre that add and extract all archives ebooks from several directories at once
[23:28] <gsker> marw: not enough info -- make and model? usb ID?
[23:28] <marw> Bus 002 Device 009: ID blah blah Xenta (which i guess is the mouse because when I unplug it it disappears from the lsusb
[23:29] <marw> ModelPritech
[23:29] <theShirbiny> marw, also unplug it and plug it again and paste the output of dmesg | tail -50
[23:30] <OerHeks> !info GCstar
[23:30] <squinty> badis, that would be off topic here but there is the #calibre channel
[23:30] <OerHeks> old project, used to be movie only, now all sorts of collections
[23:31] <gsker> marw: :-)  It's the blah blah that you skipped that needs to be known.  :-)
[23:32] <badis> thank you for your time guys ^^
[23:32] <gsker> marw: The ID is the mapping between the USB device and the UDEV driver.
[23:32] <badis> it's just so frustrating to have all those files ...
[23:32] <Welkin> badis: your only viable option then is to write a script to unzip/unrar your files
[23:33] <squinty> badis,  maybe you should take another look at a recent copy because I am pretty sure there are provisions in newer versions that will do what you want
[23:33] <tgm4883> badis: welcome to the world of dealing junk folders
[23:33] <marw> Bus 001 Device 001: ID 1d6b:0002 Linux Foundation 2.0 root hub
[23:33] <marw> Bus 003 Device 001: ID 1d6b:0003 Linux Foundation 3.0 root hub
[23:33] <marw> Bus 002 Device 004: ID 0bda:57b8 Realtek Semiconductor Corp.
[23:33] <marw> Bus 002 Device 003: ID 04f3:2063 Elan Microelectronics Corp.
[23:33] <marw> Bus 002 Device 011: ID 04b4:0033 Cypress Semiconductor Corp. Mouse
[23:33] <marw> Bus 002 Device 007: ID 0489:e078 Foxconn / Hon Hai
[23:35] <tgm4883> marw: try that again via pastebin this time
[23:35] <tgm4883> !pastebin
[23:35] <marw> I am sorry
[23:36] <elhack> hi
[23:36] <badis> several years ago i thought if i had the biggest library of tutorials ebooks software in the world i will be a beter computer scientist .... now that i have it i just cant study anythink because im just afraid of it
[23:36] <badis> hironic ...
[23:37] <elhack> help me
[23:37] <theShirbiny> elhack, with what?
[23:37] <tgm4883> badis: that's not ironic. That's just a poor thought process
[23:37] <Bashing-om> !help | elhack
[23:38] <marw> http://paste.ubuntu.com/16400221/
[23:39] <marw> the cypress semiconductor corp mouse is the other mouse i am using right now, not the wireless which doesnt work
[23:39] <badis> unfortunatly you'r right ...
[23:39] <tgm4883> badis: also, a huge waste of money
[23:40] <Welkin> okay
[23:40] <br0seph> so I want to get to learn how to use the terminal to install/configure stuff etc and overall just learn to be a better linux user, is there a good website/ebook/video that anyone can recommend for something like that?
[23:40] <Welkin> my network manager is back up
[23:40] <Welkin> thanks everyone
[23:40] <tgm4883> br0seph: ask badis
[23:40] <tgm4883> badis: sorry, I couldn't resist
[23:40] <badis> dont remember me of money , i spend about the price of a new car to store and download it lol
[23:41] <badis> im now admiting it im just an idiot
[23:41] <Welkin> br0seph: http://www.linuxcommand.org/
[23:41] <br0seph> Welkin cheers
[23:41] <ac1dh0n3ycl0ud> br0seph: Ubuntu Unleashed is a great book
[23:42] <br0seph> ac1dh0n3ycl0ud like a real book or ebook? thanks tho goonna google that as well
[23:42] <Bashing-om> Welkin: great ! Which method did you employ ?
[23:42] <tgm4883> badis: so either use the software that was mentioned, delete it and then lookup stuff when you have questions, or go through each one and delete stuff you have no use for
[23:42] <ac1dh0n3ycl0ud> br0seph: It's an actual book--they even use it as the textbook for the linux course at my college... get through the whole thing and you'll be a much better linux user
[23:43] <br0seph> ok thank you so much ac1dh0n3ycl0ud much appreciated
[23:43] <br0seph> god ive missed IRC, thank you guys so much for your help!
[23:43] <tgm4883> badis: IMO, the best solution would be to delete it, as most of the stuff you have is probably outdated now
[23:43] <Welkin> Bashing-om: downloaded the deb packages and installed using dpkg
[23:43] <Bashing-om> Welkin: :) no substitute for that command line .
[23:43] <badis> i cant , it will hurt my feeling too much
[23:44] <tgm4883> badis: ok, now you're just trolling
[23:45] <Codfection> guys why cant I put wine applications on launcher (dock) on ubuntu
[23:45] <Welkin> being a digital packrat is not a good idea, unless you are a historian/librarian of some kind
[23:46] <Welkin> Bashing-om: yes, I live on the command line (and in emacs) but rarely do any system admin stuff, so I'm pretty lost when something breaks
[23:48] <Codfection> guys why cant I put wine applications on launcher (dock) on ubuntu
[23:48] <Bashing-om> Welkin: I also push a lot . Coming from other distro's I broke my system a bunch . That is the way I learned the CLI .
[23:48] <Codfection> any idea?
[23:51] <OerHeks> Codfection, maybe you need to make a desktop starter first , for that wine app
[23:51] <bazhang> #winehq Codfection
[23:51] <Codfection> OerHeks, how to make desktop start for that wine app? I already selected create desktop icon during installation
[23:53] <OerHeks> and what launcher doc exactly?
[23:53] <OerHeks> that leftside unity panel?
[23:53] <Codfection> yea
[23:53] <Codfection> that unity panel
[23:53] <semitones-reinst> Hello! I would like to reinstall Ubuntu on a current installation of 14.04 (but keep the files in /home). What is the most efficient way to do this? I'd like to avoid burning a cd or mucking about with a USB drive if possible. Thanks!
[23:53] <OerHeks> open that app, and when the icon is visible, lock it
[23:53] <OerHeks> right mouse,...
[23:53] <Codfection> I did.. next time I open it doesnt launch
[23:53] <Codfection> :(
[23:54] <Codfection> and even logo fades away
[23:54] <OerHeks> then the icon is not valid
[23:54] <OerHeks> * not a valid path
[23:54] <Codfection> so cant make it?
[23:54] <Codfection> any idea how to get this workout
[23:54] <OerHeks> edit the icon path again, this is more a wine question, not sure where
[23:55] <OerHeks> but icon path failure is the reason
[23:55] <meh> i am trying to create a ppa   of iron browser
[23:55] <meh> because its official ppa is vero olsd
[23:55] <meh> i am using
[23:56] <Codfection> if path was invalid then it wouldnt work from dash
[23:56] <Codfection> OerHeks,
[23:56] <meh> its anciente source deb and the chromium source deb
[23:56] <meh> as i undesrtand
[23:56] <meh> the "rules" file
[23:56] <semitones-reinst> Is USB the only method to install ubuntu these days? I'm doing research and it seems that it may be the case
[23:56] <meh> downloads and compiles   chromium,  after ir apllies iridium's patches
[23:57] <Bashing-om> !install | semitones-reinst
[23:57] <Codfection> meh why not install chrome?
[23:57] <meh> the parsechangelog function reads the hangelod file
[23:57] <meh> and downloadsthe specified version
[23:57] <meh> is because i want create a ppa
[23:57] <meh> for it "lern it"
[23:58] <semitones-reinst> Bashing-om: I've already read that guide, it only talks about DVD and USB install. Are there other options (i.e. pointing GRUB to an iso)?
[23:58] <nacc> meh: do you have a link to the rules file?
[23:59] <Bashing-om> semitones-reinst: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Grub2/ISOBoot ,
[23:59] <OerHeks> !isoboot
[23:59] <OerHeks> oh
[23:59] <OerHeks> netinstall
[23:59] <OerHeks> sdcard, if your hardware is capable
[23:59] <semitones-reinst> I appreciate the link :) -- is netinstall or isoboot easier to do?