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nomicwas using lm-sensors - will try 'psensor'00:09
Gallomimiai do believe psensor uses lm-sensors00:12
Gallomimianot sure. but at any rate, that's totally awesome00:12
nomicok00:12
nomici see its just gui00:12
Gallomimiait used to only give me the 4 temperatures, and 5 fanspeeds00:12
nomicsame info00:12
nomicon what00:12
Gallomimiabut that was on ubuntu 14.0400:12
Gallomimianow it has everything on the system00:12
nomicnice to be cool (and know it)00:13
Gallomimia3 mobo sensors, which i cannot place their location. it seems to have 5 fan speeds, but i only know of 4 ports on the board00:13
Gallomimiacpu temp, it had that before.00:13
Gallomimiait has reams of data on the gpu now. didn't show a damn thing before, tho i could see it in nvidia-settings00:13
Gallomimiaa temp for every drive, and for every drive, a temp00:14
Gallomimiapci-e usage for the graphics card! wow00:14
nomicis diff on raspberry pi00:15
nomicvcgencmd measure_temp00:15
Gallomimiathe only thing that's missing is a way to graph the clock speed of the graphics card. there's 4 different levels it can take on, with various speeds for memory and gpu. it's pretty awesome00:15
Gallomimiaoh, i haven't used a pi in a good long while :/00:15
nomiccool -- I got temperature on the pi00:16
Gallomimianice00:16
Gallomimiai think it only has the one sensor?00:16
nomicisn't lm-sensors -- I knew that00:16
Gallomimiaunder the SoC00:16
nomicyeah00:16
Gallomimiagood enough for that wee thing00:16
Gallomimiaalso, it comes underclocked00:16
nomic1s playing HD film .. is 46deg .. one is idle - 41c00:16
Gallomimiaor well, that was on the pi 1 B00:17
nomicthis = pi300:17
nomici use pis as workstaitons, 100%00:17
Gallomimiacool00:17
nomicreplacing hp workstations00:17
Gallomimiaare they dumb terminals, or self contained?00:17
nomicbrowsers are junk -- don't use browsers00:17
Gallomimiayeah i noticed the browsers weren't that snappy00:17
nomiceach has  21" samsung monitor on them00:17
nomicon .. 2 diff working positions00:18
nomicmenas I have nfs .. on 2 systems .. ssh .. I aint losing files anymore00:18
nomiczapping backups everywhere00:18
Gallomimiasweet.00:18
nomicis beautiful .. having NFS permanently00:18
nomiccompared to my 9 year old hp workstations .. they are lightning fast :)00:18
douglcan anyone get me on the fast track to resolve my wifi not connection issues on my RPi3 w 16.04 on it?00:19
nomicwifi is built in .. with mate .. it runs (for me, right out of the box)00:19
douglFYI beautiful os00:19
nomicasks for wpa / wep key00:19
douglyes mine too but never connects00:19
nomicwith mate 15.04 and 1600:19
nomicworked rite away00:19
dougl16.0400:19
Gallomimiathe wifi dongle i have doesn't work worth a ....00:20
nomicnot asking for wep key?00:20
Gallomimiaoh we're not allowed to say that word00:20
nomicits not needed00:20
nomicwifi dongle is not needed00:20
Gallomimiai need one on this system. not wired :(00:20
nomicits got integral wifi hardware, the pi300:20
douglit does ask for key and i enter it and it does not connect00:20
Gallomimiai'll get it wired soon00:20
Gallomimiaoh cool.00:20
Gallomimiayeah i have a pi 1 still00:20
Gallomimiaand a odroid c00:20
Gallomimiac1?00:20
Gallomimiai can't remember. it's quad core 1.400:21
Gallomimiavery exciting for this new class of computer00:21
nomicwatching the time machine 1966 .. film looks amazing compared  to my ati radeon £20 graphic card -- pi3 = HD quality00:21
nomicmy old pcs are junk00:22
erkan^where can I find DB_name and DB_password for localhost? I need this another cannot I use with Wordpress on my home-localhost00:22
Gallomimiaerkan^: slow down and let's find out what you're doing00:23
Gallomimiausually you make those settings yourself00:23
erkan^what do you mean, Gallomimia ?00:23
Gallomimiayour question is very unclear00:23
Gallomimiayou have a wordpress install?00:23
Gallomimiaand you're making another00:23
erkan^Yes in /var/www/HTML/00:24
Gallomimiamysql is the database type?00:24
erkan^after I have installed LAMP00:24
Gallomimiause phpmyadmin to create another database. probably another user also00:24
erkan^where can I open phpadmin, Gallomimia ?00:24
Gallomimiayou'll probably want to install it same as you did with LAMP00:25
Gallomimiaor just get the code from their site. google knows00:25
Gallomimiait's phpmyadmin00:25
douglso yeah - wifi Pi3 mate = not work -. ?00:25
erkan^ok, i go search00:25
Gallomimia3 words00:25
erkan^sorry that my english is no good, because i am deaf00:25
erkan^Gallomimia,00:25
Gallomimiait is alright with me00:25
jackson300zxwhats up all, fired up Ubuntu Mate on the Pi3 for the first time00:42
Gallomimiahi there00:42
Gallomimiai think someone was just saying they use that a lot on their pi00:42
jackson300zxI was interested in the Facebook hack capture the flag project......Will that run on this?00:43
Gallomimiai hear it's a pretty fast little board00:43
Gallomimiaoh i hear browsers aren't that great at all. i used fb on my pi 1 and it was like watching amber dry00:43
jackson300zxthe preloaded firefox is running pretty good00:44
HetroErectuswith netflix and all this stuff, chrome is the only way forward on linux00:44
jackson300zxcool, i'll have to load it up. Impressed with this little board, nice kit with everything except KB/M was $7500:45
HetroErectusunless firefox puts in some closed source DRM thing for stuff like netflix00:45
Gallomimiaoh that's some kinda high price i think00:45
Gallomimiawhat's the board by itself priced at these days?00:46
Gallomimiaa00:46
jackson300zx40 bucks for the pi 300:46
Gallomimiaoops. wrong window00:46
jackson300zxhttp://www.amazon.com/CanaKit-Raspberry-Complete-Starter-Kit/dp/B01C6Q2GSY/ref=sr_1_2?s=pc&ie=UTF8&qid=1463186783&sr=1-2-spons&keywords=raspberry+pi+3&psc=100:47
Gallomimiacare to describe what "everything" is? cause except the kb/m is pretty much... nothing00:47
tewardjackson300zx: erm, $40 and $74.99 are far off of each other00:47
jackson300zxI got the "canakit" $75, comes with the power adapter, case, 32gb card, hdmi cable, and heat sinks00:47
jackson300zx$75 is the kit....00:48
tewardah, the kit ;)00:48
tewardnevermind00:48
* teward can't read apparently00:48
Gallomimiaa 32gb card. ah ok00:48
jackson300zxyup haha00:48
Gallomimiathose are still fairly pricey00:48
Gallomimiaso that's a decent deal00:48
tewardgiven I have a couple 32GB cards lying around, I just need the RPi board, case, and power cable.  $56.97 (that includes $7.99 shipping) from the supplier I use heh.00:53
jackson300zxnow....what to do with this Pi. I generally use them to run RetroPi on my arcade cabinets.00:53
tewardbut I put MATE on my RPis :p00:53
jackson300zxfigured I'd load one up to play around. I'd like to figure out something that would be useful for my tech clients. Like a firewall, file server, something....I'd probably need to plug in a USB network card to use it as a firewall.00:55
jackson300zxAny ideas?00:55
jackson300zxworking on updating sources and such first00:59
jackson300zxreminds me of about 20 years ago, when I use to sit in IRC channels chatting/...00:59
Gallomimiajackson300zx: plug in a monitor and use it as a workstation01:01
Gallomimiathat's what nomic claims to do01:01
nomici don't claim ,, its what I do01:01
jackson300zxhaha01:01
jackson300zxmy new burner computer01:01
Gallomimiaheh. claim or not claim :) all we have to go on is your typed phrases in an irc channel01:03
jackson300zxi'm outta here for now, nice chatting with ya gents01:08
tioxYou know what would be awesome?01:08
tioxIf somebody made a plank wrapper for mate-panel, much like how there's a wrapper for DockX.01:09
tioxThat way, Plank can reside inside of a panel.01:09
nomicwhy not use pi3s as work pcs .. I had 9 year old pcs01:13
nomicthey are far better01:13
Gallomimiathat sounds really great tiox... except for one thing01:14
Gallomimiawhat's a plank?01:14
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ubuntu-matehi all, how can i see the processor details in ubuntu mate04:19
pranavHello, I am new to linux. I was wondering what's the difference between the Nvidia provided drivers and the X.org ones04:25
goahnarydoes anyone know FOR SURE how to get rid of screen tearing with NVIDIA graphics cards? its pretty easy with intel integrated but I'm having trouble with nvidia(imagine that).04:33
ubuntu-matehello, it's my first time trying out ubuntu mate but couldn't figure out how to make wifi work.  i'm booted on usb and trying it out.  any tips?05:20
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trebzhi12:03
trebzhi people12:04
trebzhello from the other side?12:08
gordonjcptrebz: hi12:16
gordonjcptrebz: it's a nice sunny Saturday here in GMT-ish daytime12:16
trebzim new in ubuntu12:16
gordonjcpand it's night-time on the other side of the planet12:16
gordonjcpso it's pretty quiet in here just now :-)12:16
gordonjcptrebz: cool, how are you getting on with it?12:17
trebzwell its beautiful and simple unlike the official ubuntu12:17
gordonjcpmh, it's much of a muchness I think12:19
gordonjcpI do prefer Unity having all the stuff down the left side12:19
gordonjcpmy monitor is wider than it is high; that's less of a waste of screen space :-)12:19
trebzwell since i came from windows 7 so maybe thats why im loving ubuntu mate :312:21
trebzdo i need to install TLP and cpufriqu forgot the name12:23
trebz?12:24
gordonjcpTLP?12:29
trebzyeah the thing that cools your laptop temperature?12:31
gordonjcpoh, no idea, never bothered with it12:40
trebzoh ok cause my laptop is heating much12:40
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ubuntu-mate hi12:49
ubuntu-mateshould I install LTS or the old version?12:50
HetroErectusgo LTS12:51
ubuntu-matethanks12:51
HetroErectus16.04 rocks ... except if you have an ATI card12:52
HetroErectusbut you get new drivers end of this supper and its supported to 202112:52
ubuntu-mateno :)12:52
HetroErectusgood for you, i do12:52
ubuntu-mateokay :(12:53
ubuntu-matecan i have ubuntu mate in german??12:53
HetroErectusja das stimt12:53
HetroErectusyou chose langauge during install12:54
ubuntu-mategood, thanks12:59
gordonjcpubuntu-mate: welche art von Deutsch?13:01
gordonjcpthere are a couple of dialects I think13:01
HetroErectusand all software you install should be in german automatically after that13:02
ubuntu-matedeutschland deutsch13:02
HetroErectusonly really weird programs arent13:02
HetroErectuseven microlanguages like norwegian are allmost 100% supported13:02
festerBHi all, I'm gettin "The destination is read-only." for all USB sticks, cli works fine...13:06
festerBusing UM 16.04 with all the latest updates13:07
AkulifesterB, for a temporary solution you could mount it and transfer files with the terminal13:08
gordonjcpHetroErectus: bha Gaidhlig a'faighainn, cuideachd13:10
ubuntu-matehow can i uninstall programs? :)13:11
HetroErectuswas that gaelic?13:12
HetroErectusi thought i heard a bagpipe playing when i read that13:12
Akuliubuntu-mate, sudo apt-get remove yourprogram13:15
Akuliubuntu-mate, what are you uninstalling?13:15
HetroErectusor just unclick it in synaptic or app store13:16
ubuntu-matei have stil a live dvd13:16
HetroErectusapp store ... im getting too used to phones. . you dont buy anything in linux.. its free.. donate if you want13:17
Akuliubuntu-mate, so you haven't installed yet?13:17
ubuntu-mateyes13:17
HetroErectusteres a startup screen in ubuntu mate with the basic stuff listed..13:17
ubuntu-mateis it a good through ubuntu software center to remove it away?13:20
nomicmicrosoft has armies of trolls (some say, recruited in india), who are busy commenting on any linux news article with OUTRIGHT LIES13:21
nomicthey're everywhere13:21
nomicit's unpleasant/unfair (microsoft tactics)13:21
nomiclow.13:21
nomicmicrosoft doesn't even have an OS that runs on the pi - but they're busy disparaging it -- when I say 'os'  their desktop -- they haven't got a running desktop OS on the pi.  Sure, you can gain access to a pi, using "windows", but you need a hulking great windows PC next to it, to do so13:23
nomicthere is no working GUI13:23
nomicbut still, the UK govt manages to market the microsoft version of the pi zero, to schools -13:24
gordonjcp<Shrug>13:24
gordonjcpthat's not what it's for13:24
nomicwhat isn't what for13:24
gordonjcpit's not intended to be a GUI OS13:24
nomicit is, I run it as a gui os (mate)13:24
nomicyou are talking a bout their win rt?  they are missing the entire aim of the pi3 .. the pi3 is the pc replacement13:25
nomicI run it as a GUI OS - it has replaced my brick-like PCs13:25
gordonjcpnomic: I was under the impression it was intended to work like a server OS13:25
nomican improvement13:25
gordonjcpI should really get a copy of Windows and have a play some time13:25
gordonjcpI hear Windows 10 is pretty good13:26
nomicbbl.13:26
festerBAkuli: been there done that, looking for a fix13:26
AkulifesterB, what's interesting is that mint 17.3 has the exact same problem13:27
Akulialthough its based on 14.0413:27
festerBAkuli: yes, it's 2016 and we're on kernel 4.4, basic usb sticks are still a pain in the bu**... :-(13:36
Akulinot the kernels fault13:37
Akulimy ubuntu 14.04 and devuan jessie run great :)13:37
gordonjcpUSB sticks work here just fine13:39
AkuliExact same issue as on the mint.13:40
AkuliSome people's sticks just get mounted as root, most people's sticks dont13:40
erkan^wie kan Nederlands spreken?13:46
festerBAkuli: ceartainly not the kernel's fault, cli works fine13:48
Akuli:D13:49
AkuliWho needs a GUI anyway :)13:49
festerBAkuli: On dunn know, maybe 99,99% of users, you know ppl who just need to get things done ;)13:54
AkuliWell, it was more of a joke :) I need a gui for browsing the web, but i also don't know how to use vim so also for programming13:55
festerBAkuli: bahhh, lynx's just fine for text ;)13:56
AkuliOh that thing :)13:57
* Akuli tries ít13:57
festerBAkuli: Lynx defaults are irksome, you're always allowing cookies, if you use it daily enable them as always in the conf13:59
trebzhi14:34
trebzhello14:34
nganuhello. is there a specific channel for ubuntu mate raspberry pi?14:53
user1_Hello all14:58
user1_does anyone know how to change the default image size of the sd card15:00
user1_defaults to 4 gb on 32 gb card15:00
HetroErectusnganu, no but theres #raspberrypi15:10
nganuHetroErectus: thanks15:12
trebzh3llo15:31
trebzanyone online?15:31
sam1051vhello16:51
kisbhello17:00
raenenhello?17:22
sabelHi! i'm having some trouble booting into linux. I actually just managed to get the option to boot into linux to appear but grub doesn't show up by default. Anyone available to help?17:25
snipesHello19:12
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aleksandrahello19:57
Gallomimiahello20:07
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XyphoidHello23:09
XyphoidAnybody knows how to show minimized windows in Shift Switcher?23:10
ouroumovXyphoid, what is Shift Switcher?23:10
XyphoidTo change windows with Super + Tab. It's in Compiz23:11
ouroumovUh23:11
ouroumovOK. Sorry I don't use Compiz. Maybe someone else will be available to answer23:12
trebzHI23:52

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