[00:09] <nomic> was using lm-sensors - will try 'psensor'
[00:12] <Gallomimia> i do believe psensor uses lm-sensors
[00:12] <Gallomimia> not sure. but at any rate, that's totally awesome
[00:12] <nomic> ok
[00:12] <nomic> i see its just gui
[00:12] <Gallomimia> it used to only give me the 4 temperatures, and 5 fanspeeds
[00:12] <nomic> same info
[00:12] <nomic> on what
[00:12] <Gallomimia> but that was on ubuntu 14.04
[00:12] <Gallomimia> now it has everything on the system
[00:13] <nomic> nice to be cool (and know it)
[00:13] <Gallomimia> 3 mobo sensors, which i cannot place their location. it seems to have 5 fan speeds, but i only know of 4 ports on the board
[00:13] <Gallomimia> cpu temp, it had that before.
[00:13] <Gallomimia> it has reams of data on the gpu now. didn't show a damn thing before, tho i could see it in nvidia-settings
[00:14] <Gallomimia> a temp for every drive, and for every drive, a temp
[00:14] <Gallomimia> pci-e usage for the graphics card! wow
[00:15] <nomic> is diff on raspberry pi
[00:15] <nomic> vcgencmd measure_temp
[00:15] <Gallomimia> the only thing that's missing is a way to graph the clock speed of the graphics card. there's 4 different levels it can take on, with various speeds for memory and gpu. it's pretty awesome
[00:15] <Gallomimia> oh, i haven't used a pi in a good long while :/
[00:16] <nomic> cool -- I got temperature on the pi
[00:16] <Gallomimia> nice
[00:16] <Gallomimia> i think it only has the one sensor?
[00:16] <nomic> isn't lm-sensors -- I knew that
[00:16] <Gallomimia> under the SoC
[00:16] <nomic> yeah
[00:16] <Gallomimia> good enough for that wee thing
[00:16] <Gallomimia> also, it comes underclocked
[00:16] <nomic> 1s playing HD film .. is 46deg .. one is idle - 41c
[00:17] <Gallomimia> or well, that was on the pi 1 B
[00:17] <nomic> this = pi3
[00:17] <nomic> i use pis as workstaitons, 100%
[00:17] <Gallomimia> cool
[00:17] <nomic> replacing hp workstations
[00:17] <Gallomimia> are they dumb terminals, or self contained?
[00:17] <nomic> browsers are junk -- don't use browsers
[00:17] <Gallomimia> yeah i noticed the browsers weren't that snappy
[00:17] <nomic> each has  21" samsung monitor on them
[00:18] <nomic> on .. 2 diff working positions
[00:18] <nomic> menas I have nfs .. on 2 systems .. ssh .. I aint losing files anymore
[00:18] <nomic> zapping backups everywhere
[00:18] <Gallomimia> sweet.
[00:18] <nomic> is beautiful .. having NFS permanently
[00:18] <nomic> compared to my 9 year old hp workstations .. they are lightning fast :)
[00:19] <dougl> can anyone get me on the fast track to resolve my wifi not connection issues on my RPi3 w 16.04 on it?
[00:19] <nomic> wifi is built in .. with mate .. it runs (for me, right out of the box)
[00:19] <dougl> FYI beautiful os
[00:19] <nomic> asks for wpa / wep key
[00:19] <dougl> yes mine too but never connects
[00:19] <nomic> with mate 15.04 and 16
[00:19] <nomic> worked rite away
[00:19] <dougl> 16.04
[00:20] <Gallomimia> the wifi dongle i have doesn't work worth a ....
[00:20] <nomic> not asking for wep key?
[00:20] <Gallomimia> oh we're not allowed to say that word
[00:20] <nomic> its not needed
[00:20] <nomic> wifi dongle is not needed
[00:20] <Gallomimia> i need one on this system. not wired :(
[00:20] <nomic> its got integral wifi hardware, the pi3
[00:20] <dougl> it does ask for key and i enter it and it does not connect
[00:20] <Gallomimia> i'll get it wired soon
[00:20] <Gallomimia> oh cool.
[00:20] <Gallomimia> yeah i have a pi 1 still
[00:20] <Gallomimia> and a odroid c
[00:20] <Gallomimia> c1?
[00:21] <Gallomimia> i can't remember. it's quad core 1.4
[00:21] <Gallomimia> very exciting for this new class of computer
[00:21] <nomic> watching the time machine 1966 .. film looks amazing compared  to my ati radeon £20 graphic card -- pi3 = HD quality
[00:22] <nomic> my old pcs are junk
[00:22] <erkan^> where can I find DB_name and DB_password for localhost? I need this another cannot I use with Wordpress on my home-localhost
[00:23] <Gallomimia> erkan^: slow down and let's find out what you're doing
[00:23] <Gallomimia> usually you make those settings yourself
[00:23] <erkan^> what do you mean, Gallomimia ?
[00:23] <Gallomimia> your question is very unclear
[00:23] <Gallomimia> you have a wordpress install?
[00:23] <Gallomimia> and you're making another
[00:24] <erkan^> Yes in /var/www/HTML/
[00:24] <Gallomimia> mysql is the database type?
[00:24] <erkan^> after I have installed LAMP
[00:24] <Gallomimia> use phpmyadmin to create another database. probably another user also
[00:24] <erkan^> where can I open phpadmin, Gallomimia ?
[00:25] <Gallomimia> you'll probably want to install it same as you did with LAMP
[00:25] <Gallomimia> or just get the code from their site. google knows
[00:25] <Gallomimia> it's phpmyadmin
[00:25] <dougl> so yeah - wifi Pi3 mate = not work -. ?
[00:25] <erkan^> ok, i go search
[00:25] <Gallomimia> 3 words
[00:25] <erkan^> sorry that my english is no good, because i am deaf
[00:25] <erkan^> Gallomimia,
[00:25] <Gallomimia> it is alright with me
[00:42] <jackson300zx> whats up all, fired up Ubuntu Mate on the Pi3 for the first time
[00:42] <Gallomimia> hi there
[00:42] <Gallomimia> i think someone was just saying they use that a lot on their pi
[00:43] <jackson300zx> I was interested in the Facebook hack capture the flag project......Will that run on this?
[00:43] <Gallomimia> i hear it's a pretty fast little board
[00:43] <Gallomimia> oh i hear browsers aren't that great at all. i used fb on my pi 1 and it was like watching amber dry
[00:44] <jackson300zx> the preloaded firefox is running pretty good
[00:44] <HetroErectus> with netflix and all this stuff, chrome is the only way forward on linux
[00:45] <jackson300zx> cool, i'll have to load it up. Impressed with this little board, nice kit with everything except KB/M was $75
[00:45] <HetroErectus> unless firefox puts in some closed source DRM thing for stuff like netflix
[00:45] <Gallomimia> oh that's some kinda high price i think
[00:46] <Gallomimia> what's the board by itself priced at these days?
[00:46] <Gallomimia> a
[00:46] <jackson300zx> 40 bucks for the pi 3
[00:46] <Gallomimia> oops. wrong window
[00:47] <jackson300zx> http://www.amazon.com/CanaKit-Raspberry-Complete-Starter-Kit/dp/B01C6Q2GSY/ref=sr_1_2?s=pc&ie=UTF8&qid=1463186783&sr=1-2-spons&keywords=raspberry+pi+3&psc=1
[00:47] <Gallomimia> care to describe what "everything" is? cause except the kb/m is pretty much... nothing
[00:47] <teward> jackson300zx: erm, $40 and $74.99 are far off of each other
[00:47] <jackson300zx> I got the "canakit" $75, comes with the power adapter, case, 32gb card, hdmi cable, and heat sinks
[00:48] <jackson300zx> $75 is the kit....
[00:48] <teward> ah, the kit ;)
[00:48] <teward> nevermind
[00:48]  * teward can't read apparently
[00:48] <Gallomimia> a 32gb card. ah ok
[00:48] <jackson300zx> yup haha
[00:48] <Gallomimia> those are still fairly pricey
[00:48] <Gallomimia> so that's a decent deal
[00:53] <teward> given I have a couple 32GB cards lying around, I just need the RPi board, case, and power cable.  $56.97 (that includes $7.99 shipping) from the supplier I use heh.
[00:53] <jackson300zx> now....what to do with this Pi. I generally use them to run RetroPi on my arcade cabinets.
[00:53] <teward> but I put MATE on my RPis :p
[00:55] <jackson300zx> figured I'd load one up to play around. I'd like to figure out something that would be useful for my tech clients. Like a firewall, file server, something....I'd probably need to plug in a USB network card to use it as a firewall.
[00:55] <jackson300zx> Any ideas?
[00:59] <jackson300zx> working on updating sources and such first
[00:59] <jackson300zx> reminds me of about 20 years ago, when I use to sit in IRC channels chatting/...
[01:01] <Gallomimia> jackson300zx: plug in a monitor and use it as a workstation
[01:01] <Gallomimia> that's what nomic claims to do
[01:01] <nomic> i don't claim ,, its what I do
[01:01] <jackson300zx> haha
[01:01] <jackson300zx> my new burner computer
[01:03] <Gallomimia> heh. claim or not claim :) all we have to go on is your typed phrases in an irc channel
[01:08] <jackson300zx> i'm outta here for now, nice chatting with ya gents
[01:08] <tiox> You know what would be awesome?
[01:09] <tiox> If somebody made a plank wrapper for mate-panel, much like how there's a wrapper for DockX.
[01:09] <tiox> That way, Plank can reside inside of a panel.
[01:13] <nomic> why not use pi3s as work pcs .. I had 9 year old pcs
[01:13] <nomic> they are far better
[01:14] <Gallomimia> that sounds really great tiox... except for one thing
[01:14] <Gallomimia> what's a plank?
[04:19] <ubuntu-mate> hi all, how can i see the processor details in ubuntu mate
[04:25] <pranav> Hello, I am new to linux. I was wondering what's the difference between the Nvidia provided drivers and the X.org ones
[04:33] <goahnary> does anyone know FOR SURE how to get rid of screen tearing with NVIDIA graphics cards? its pretty easy with intel integrated but I'm having trouble with nvidia(imagine that).
[05:20] <ubuntu-mate> hello, it's my first time trying out ubuntu mate but couldn't figure out how to make wifi work.  i'm booted on usb and trying it out.  any tips?
[12:03] <trebz> hi
[12:04] <trebz> hi people
[12:08] <trebz> hello from the other side?
[12:16] <gordonjcp> trebz: hi
[12:16] <gordonjcp> trebz: it's a nice sunny Saturday here in GMT-ish daytime
[12:16] <trebz> im new in ubuntu
[12:16] <gordonjcp> and it's night-time on the other side of the planet
[12:16] <gordonjcp> so it's pretty quiet in here just now :-)
[12:17] <gordonjcp> trebz: cool, how are you getting on with it?
[12:17] <trebz> well its beautiful and simple unlike the official ubuntu
[12:19] <gordonjcp> mh, it's much of a muchness I think
[12:19] <gordonjcp> I do prefer Unity having all the stuff down the left side
[12:19] <gordonjcp> my monitor is wider than it is high; that's less of a waste of screen space :-)
[12:21] <trebz> well since i came from windows 7 so maybe thats why im loving ubuntu mate :3
[12:23] <trebz> do i need to install TLP and cpufriqu forgot the name
[12:24] <trebz> ?
[12:29] <gordonjcp> TLP?
[12:31] <trebz> yeah the thing that cools your laptop temperature?
[12:40] <gordonjcp> oh, no idea, never bothered with it
[12:40] <trebz> oh ok cause my laptop is heating much
[12:49] <ubuntu-mate>  hi
[12:50] <ubuntu-mate> should I install LTS or the old version?
[12:51] <HetroErectus> go LTS
[12:51] <ubuntu-mate> thanks
[12:52] <HetroErectus> 16.04 rocks ... except if you have an ATI card
[12:52] <HetroErectus> but you get new drivers end of this supper and its supported to 2021
[12:52] <ubuntu-mate> no :)
[12:52] <HetroErectus> good for you, i do
[12:53] <ubuntu-mate> okay :(
[12:53] <ubuntu-mate> can i have ubuntu mate in german??
[12:53] <HetroErectus> ja das stimt
[12:54] <HetroErectus> you chose langauge during install
[12:59] <ubuntu-mate> good, thanks
[13:01] <gordonjcp> ubuntu-mate: welche art von Deutsch?
[13:01] <gordonjcp> there are a couple of dialects I think
[13:02] <HetroErectus> and all software you install should be in german automatically after that
[13:02] <ubuntu-mate> deutschland deutsch
[13:02] <HetroErectus> only really weird programs arent
[13:02] <HetroErectus> even microlanguages like norwegian are allmost 100% supported
[13:06] <festerB> Hi all, I'm gettin "The destination is read-only." for all USB sticks, cli works fine...
[13:07] <festerB> using UM 16.04 with all the latest updates
[13:08] <Akuli> festerB, for a temporary solution you could mount it and transfer files with the terminal
[13:10] <gordonjcp> HetroErectus: bha Gaidhlig a'faighainn, cuideachd
[13:11] <ubuntu-mate> how can i uninstall programs? :)
[13:12] <HetroErectus> was that gaelic?
[13:12] <HetroErectus> i thought i heard a bagpipe playing when i read that
[13:15] <Akuli> ubuntu-mate, sudo apt-get remove yourprogram
[13:15] <Akuli> ubuntu-mate, what are you uninstalling?
[13:16] <HetroErectus> or just unclick it in synaptic or app store
[13:16] <ubuntu-mate> i have stil a live dvd
[13:17] <HetroErectus> app store ... im getting too used to phones. . you dont buy anything in linux.. its free.. donate if you want
[13:17] <Akuli> ubuntu-mate, so you haven't installed yet?
[13:17] <ubuntu-mate> yes
[13:17] <HetroErectus> teres a startup screen in ubuntu mate with the basic stuff listed..
[13:20] <ubuntu-mate> is it a good through ubuntu software center to remove it away?
[13:21] <nomic> microsoft has armies of trolls (some say, recruited in india), who are busy commenting on any linux news article with OUTRIGHT LIES
[13:21] <nomic> they're everywhere
[13:21] <nomic> it's unpleasant/unfair (microsoft tactics)
[13:21] <nomic> low.
[13:23] <nomic> microsoft doesn't even have an OS that runs on the pi - but they're busy disparaging it -- when I say 'os'  their desktop -- they haven't got a running desktop OS on the pi.  Sure, you can gain access to a pi, using "windows", but you need a hulking great windows PC next to it, to do so
[13:23] <nomic> there is no working GUI
[13:24] <nomic> but still, the UK govt manages to market the microsoft version of the pi zero, to schools -
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[13:24] <gordonjcp> that's not what it's for
[13:24] <nomic> what isn't what for
[13:24] <gordonjcp> it's not intended to be a GUI OS
[13:24] <nomic> it is, I run it as a gui os (mate)
[13:25] <nomic> you are talking a bout their win rt?  they are missing the entire aim of the pi3 .. the pi3 is the pc replacement
[13:25] <nomic> I run it as a GUI OS - it has replaced my brick-like PCs
[13:25] <gordonjcp> nomic: I was under the impression it was intended to work like a server OS
[13:25] <nomic> an improvement
[13:25] <gordonjcp> I should really get a copy of Windows and have a play some time
[13:26] <gordonjcp> I hear Windows 10 is pretty good
[13:26] <nomic> bbl.
[13:26] <festerB> Akuli: been there done that, looking for a fix
[13:27] <Akuli> festerB, what's interesting is that mint 17.3 has the exact same problem
[13:27] <Akuli> although its based on 14.04
[13:36] <festerB> Akuli: yes, it's 2016 and we're on kernel 4.4, basic usb sticks are still a pain in the bu**... :-(
[13:37] <Akuli> not the kernels fault
[13:37] <Akuli> my ubuntu 14.04 and devuan jessie run great :)
[13:39] <gordonjcp> USB sticks work here just fine
[13:40] <Akuli> Exact same issue as on the mint.
[13:40] <Akuli> Some people's sticks just get mounted as root, most people's sticks dont
[13:46] <erkan^> wie kan Nederlands spreken?
[13:48] <festerB> Akuli: ceartainly not the kernel's fault, cli works fine
[13:49] <Akuli> :D
[13:49] <Akuli> Who needs a GUI anyway :)
[13:54] <festerB> Akuli: On dunn know, maybe 99,99% of users, you know ppl who just need to get things done ;)
[13:55] <Akuli> Well, it was more of a joke :) I need a gui for browsing the web, but i also don't know how to use vim so also for programming
[13:56] <festerB> Akuli: bahhh, lynx's just fine for text ;)
[13:57] <Akuli> Oh that thing :)
[13:57]  * Akuli tries ít
[13:59] <festerB> Akuli: Lynx defaults are irksome, you're always allowing cookies, if you use it daily enable them as always in the conf
[14:34] <trebz> hi
[14:34] <trebz> hello
[14:53] <nganu> hello. is there a specific channel for ubuntu mate raspberry pi?
[14:58] <user1_> Hello all
[15:00] <user1_> does anyone know how to change the default image size of the sd card
[15:00] <user1_> defaults to 4 gb on 32 gb card
[15:10] <HetroErectus> nganu, no but theres #raspberrypi
[15:12] <nganu> HetroErectus: thanks
[15:31] <trebz> h3llo
[15:31] <trebz> anyone online?
[16:51] <sam1051v> hello
[17:00] <kisb> hello
[17:22] <raenen> hello?
[17:25] <sabel> Hi! i'm having some trouble booting into linux. I actually just managed to get the option to boot into linux to appear but grub doesn't show up by default. Anyone available to help?
[19:12] <snipes> Hello
[19:57] <aleksandra> hello
[20:07] <Gallomimia> hello
[23:09] <Xyphoid> Hello
[23:10] <Xyphoid> Anybody knows how to show minimized windows in Shift Switcher?
[23:10] <ouroumov> Xyphoid, what is Shift Switcher?
[23:11] <Xyphoid> To change windows with Super + Tab. It's in Compiz
[23:11] <ouroumov> Uh
[23:12] <ouroumov> OK. Sorry I don't use Compiz. Maybe someone else will be available to answer
[23:52] <trebz> HI