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Bashing-omEriC^^: Any experience with python2.7 : http://pastebin.com/v4d0evyv . Installed local ??01:16
OerHeksmaybe python is in your path\01:27
Bashing-omOerHeks: What we have is an older version of python2.7 is installed . prohibiting installing other packages . I am scared silly to mess about with it .01:29
pauljwgnite all02:54
Bashing-omweb browser has crashed on me .. gonna reboot . be back (soonest ? ).03:05
Bashing-omOuch I am back .. hardware pronlems ! " ata1.00: hot unplug04:02
Bashing-omMay 14 20:08:54 1404mini kernel: [18354.151934] ata1: SError: { PHYRdyChg LinkSeq TrStaTrns }04:02
Bashing-omMay 14 20:08:54 1404mini kernel: [18354.151942] ata1.00: failed command: WRITE FPDMA QUEUED " Ouch !04:02
lotuspsychjegood morning to all04:14
Bashing-omHey lotuspsychje , Welcome back . It has it bumps this eve .04:25
lotuspsychjehey Bashing-om04:25
lotuspsychjeyesterday was wild also04:26
* Bashing-om with hrdware problems. system drive getting " ata1.00: hot unplug " ! ouch !04:27
lotuspsychjeoh oh04:28
Bashing-omGoing to be an interesting day tomorrow chasing this down .04:28
lotuspsychjeBashing-om: what happens exactly04:29
EriC^^Bashing-om: hi was sleeping04:35
lotuspsychjeEriC^^: morning mate04:37
EriC^^morning lotuspsychje04:37
lotuspsychjehow did you like the movie?04:37
EriC^^didn't continue it04:37
lotuspsychjedidnt like?04:37
EriC^^just watched like first 10mins or so04:37
EriC^^nah i had to do something04:37
lotuspsychjekk04:38
EriC^^i'll watch today probably04:38
lotuspsychjecool04:39
Bashing-omlotuspsychje: 1st indicatioon I get is google-chrome crashing .., then in terminal .. commands return " buss error " . syslog reflects hard drive 'hot unpluged' and numerios enable/disables afterward . File system protecting it's self by going read only . Maybe I clean the box, boot an older kernel and see what transpires .04:42
lotuspsychjeBashing-om: what hd brand is this?04:43
lotuspsychjemorning dax04:43
Bashing-omWestern Digital . 500 Gigs .04:43
lotuspsychjedax: you might know whats going on ^04:44
lotuspsychjeWD like your work brand :p04:44
lotuspsychjeBashing-om: hmm cant find much on that error04:47
Bashing-omCould be controller issues .. As I have another drive gone flakey, spins down and may not spin back up , Maybe time to switch boxes !04:47
Bashing-omlotuspsychje: I then get spammed in the log with " failed command: WRITE FPDMA QUEUED " . understandable as it is likely write protected at that point .04:49
lotuspsychjelets c04:49
daxhi lotuspsychje04:49
daxsmells like controller or hard drive failure to me, indeed04:49
daxcould also be the drive losing power for whatever reason04:50
daxfirst thing i'd do would be opening up the computer, getting rid of dust, checking cables are secure. if that doesn't help, time to start swapping components to see which part of the pipeline is breaking04:51
lotuspsychjehttps://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/linux/+bug/55055904:51
ubot5Ubuntu bug 550559 in linux (Ubuntu) "hdd problems, failed command: READ FPDMA QUEUED" [Undecided,Invalid]04:51
Bashing-omdax: Yeah .. could be a lot of things .. Now be a good time to replace my failed voltage meter .04:52
lotuspsychjeBashing-om: perhaps also tail syslog in a liveusb first? see if your hd spams also?04:53
Bashing-omlotuspsychje: That is a good thouhgt ! .. I had seen that bug report .. back in the lucid days .04:54
lotuspsychjeBashing-om: some of those guys fixxed with a reinstall hmm04:54
lotuspsychjeBashing-om: SMART test from ubuntu also good idea?04:55
EriC^^hot unplug sounds like the cable was removed or something04:55
lotuspsychjealso good idea EriC^^ or bad sata cable?04:56
Bashing-omIt is past my beddy bye time here .. will see what I can work up on this tommorrow . Maybe then I will not be so aggravated, huh ?04:56
Bashing-omEriC^^: I recently - a couple months back - replaced the sata cables with good locking type. Power supply failing .. could be .04:57
lotuspsychjeBashing-om: a good night sleep always solved everything04:57
Bashing-omlotuspsychje: ran SMART .. passed short .. failed on long with no report .. then I ran fsck . failed with bad superblock . spared it off . system booted up and ran fine for several hours .. then started crashing again . been up now on a re-boot for about 45 minutes .. see no problems . lemme take a peek again at syslog .05:01
lotuspsychjetail -f /var/log/syslog05:02
Bashing-omsyslog still happy :)05:02
lotuspsychjebad superblock isnt very amusing :p05:02
lotuspsychjei would go for the liveusb, if you see still bad superblock05:03
Bashing-omMy computer is sick. I am NOT a happy camper .05:04
lotuspsychjemight be WD to TIP05:04
lotuspsychjeRIP05:04
Bashing-omwell .. was going to do a SSD this month .. but finances are a bit tight ( already ) .05:05
lotuspsychjeperhaps the samsung evo 850, those are cheaper05:05
EriC^^shirts .. ;)05:05
lotuspsychjei payed 90 euro for the 850 pro 128gig05:06
lotuspsychjeEriC^^: :p05:06
lotuspsychjelinuxtshirts.com05:06
Bashing-omThat too is the one I have my eye on . Rhier spiel for th new controllers sure is convincing . Samsung 850 EVO 250GB $84.58 .05:09
lotuspsychjeyou need it so big on linux?05:10
lotuspsychjeor dualboot with win?05:10
lotuspsychje./dev/sda1          114G      21G   88G  19% /05:10
lotuspsychjethis is my 850 pro05:11
lotuspsychjeplenty05:11
EriC^^stay calm & /join #ubuntu05:11
lotuspsychjelollll05:11
EriC^^stay calm & dmesg | tail05:11
EriC^^:p05:11
lotuspsychjelol my snaps are showing in df05:12
lotuspsychje./dev/loop1          22M      22M     0 100% /snap/telegram-sergiusens/205:12
lotuspsychje./dev/loop0          65M      65M     0 100% /snap/ubuntu-core/10905:12
lotuspsychjemorning nicomachus05:13
nicomachuserrr... yea, I suppose it is. haha05:14
nicomachus00:14 here05:14
lotuspsychjeoO05:14
lotuspsychje7h1405:14
nicomachusworking on my music library. all the tags got all messed up at some point...05:14
lotuspsychjewich player05:14
Bashing-omlotuspsychje: I run even tighter ,http://paste.ubuntu.com/16430616/ .05:15
nicomachuswell, it's the tags on the files themselves. but working with ncmpcpp right now because I'm doing it via ssh05:15
lotuspsychjeBashing-om: so lower a new ssd to the 120gig evo 850 model perhaps for $$$?05:15
lotuspsychjehttp://www.amazon.com/Samsung-2-5-Inch-Internal-MZ-75E120B-AM/dp/B00OAJ5N6I05:17
lotuspsychje66.8005:17
Bashing-omlotuspsychje: Well, yeah . I had considered .. my data partitions could reside on spinners . But the excess space might be nice for whatever comes in the future .05:17
nicomachus!info ncmpcpp05:17
ubot5ncmpcpp (source: ncmpcpp): ncurses-based client for the Music Player Daemon (MPD). In component universe, is optional. Version 0.7-1 (xenial), package size 676 kB, installed size 2573 kB05:18
lotuspsychjenicomachus: nice05:18
nicomachusthis says 0.7-1, my version is 0.7.3-105:18
lotuspsychjehmm05:18
nicomachusI don't understand version numbering sometimes though05:18
lotuspsychje!info ncmpcpp yakkety05:18
ubot5'yakkety' is not a valid distribution: kubuntu-backports, kubuntu-experimental, kubuntu-updates, partner, precise, precise-backports, precise-proposed, stable, testing, trusty, trusty-backports, trusty-proposed, unstable, utopic, utopic-backports, utopic-proposed, vivid, vivid-backports, vivid-proposed, wily, wily-backports, wily-proposed, xenial, xenial-backports, xenial-proposed05:18
nicomachusubottu needs an update05:19
lotuspsychjedax: yakkety packages dont show correct here besides #ubuntu+1 ?05:19
nicomachusodd, it does show on +105:19
nicomachusbut we have ubot5, not ubottu05:20
lotuspsychjeyep05:20
nicomachusI'm on xenial anyway05:20
lotuspsychjebot might need a sync perhaps05:20
Bashing-omspoke too wuick .. drive is going down " ata1.00: exception Emask 0x10 SAct 0x3fff80 SErr 0x1910000 action 0xe frozen05:20
lotuspsychjeBashing-om: on a live?05:20
Bashing-omgoing to shut down ,, and play with it tomorrow . night y guys . // maw this on the system at present on hard drive ." May 15 00:18:06 1404mini kernel: [ 6973.557635] ata1.00: failed command: WRITE FPDMA QUEUED " !05:22
nicomachushmmm.. can't get ncmpcpp to load my library.05:23
nicomachusmay just have to restore from a backup to get the tags sorted.05:23
EriC^^nicomachus: try to just get the tag info and set it to the ones without tags05:27
nicomachusIt's all there... it just got a bit mixed up. So the track number is now the track title, the title is the album name, etc.05:27
nicomachusa bit odd.05:27
nicomachusncmpcpp can fix it real easy, just gotta figure out why my library won't load up05:28
nicomachusI've always had a bit of trouble getting it configured just right.05:28
nicomachusversion on my 15.10 laptop: 0.6.405:33
pauljwHi everyone11:56
EriC^^hi pauljw12:16
EriC^^how's it going?12:16
pauljwnot bad EriC^^ , you?12:18
EriC^^i'm ok12:19
EriC^^it's crazy hot here today12:19
EriC^^34'c O.o12:19
EriC^^it barely ever gets that hot during summer usually12:19
DJonesSheesh, that'd kill me now, used to love heat, but now anything over about 10C starts causing problems12:20
pauljwhope you can stay cool, we're having unseasonable cold here, 45F at the moment.12:20
EriC^^yeah i have the a/c blasting full speed, i really wanted to work on the car though, planned to raise the front and put the front sway bar in12:25
EriC^^i think it's called a strut brace12:26
EriC^^i've had it on but not actually fit for a couple years and the strut is starting to crack, e30 bmw's are notorious for these12:26
pauljwahh, sounds like quite a project12:33
pauljwi have so many garage projects that i need to do, first of which is clean the dang garage.  :)12:35
EriC^^:)12:35
OerHeksI really like the rain & snow, otherwise those garage projects litter outside12:40
OerHeksgood-morning or afternoon!12:40
pauljwhi OerHeks12:53
BluesKajHiyas all13:44
DaniKittenHi16:28
DaniKittenHello16:47
daftykinsbullet dodged.16:49
EriC^^howdy daftykins18:23
daftykinsallo sir \o18:23
EriC^^how's it going?18:23
daftykinsnot bad thanks! i picked up a fancy new game for my PC today, didn't expect it to run too well until i replace my 2011 graphics card but wow, 14fps on all the low settings! :)18:27
EriC^^cool18:28
daftykinsthankfully the latest generation nvidia cards get reviews out on Tuesday so i'll be excited to see those!18:28
EriC^^which game?18:28
daftykinsHitman :D18:28
EriC^^cool18:28
EriC^^that's an awesome series18:28
daftykinsyep! this new one looks amazing on the twitch streamer i've been watching play it, too18:30
BluesKajhey daftykins, EriC^^ hitman on ubuntu ?18:33
EriC^^hey BluesKaj18:33
daftykinsBluesKaj: haha no, i don't run desktop Linux - Windows only game i think18:34
* tsimonq2 is on Unity 8 :D18:35
daftykinsDirectX 12 once i get a good card, too18:35
BluesKajjust curious how fast some games are getting ported to linux after release18:35
BluesKajsticking with W7 on the laptop ...W10 is awful to look at18:36
daftykinsi like it! once i've tweaked it a bit :)18:36
daftykinshave to run 10 to get DirectX 1218:36
BluesKajwhat tweaks ? you must have the pro version18:37
Switchesdaftykins: Windows! really, and I thought you were cool :p18:38
daftykinsSwitches: i am! that's why i spend money on hardware and games, then don't cripple it with an OS that doesn't work with them, only to complain!18:39
BluesKajI keep windows around to help wife if she has a problem, replication helps fix it in most cases18:39
tsimonq2daftykins: come on, at least dual-boot :P18:40
daftykinsBluesKaj: oh only personalisation stuff, like i'm not into the whole taskbar tile rubbish18:40
Switcheslol18:40
daftykinsbut yeah my clients are mostly Windows based so it makes sense to stay where i need to support things :P18:40
tsimonq2Grandma's computer upgraded to Windows 10, she was complaining so I put Kubuntu 16.04 on there :D18:40
BluesKajdaftykins,  understood18:40
daftykinsi'm probably going to drop £300+ on a graphics card in the next 4 weeks or so, wouldn't make sense to cripple that with Linux ;)18:41
BluesKajhow does Grandma like it18:41
Switchesdaftykins: You just settle to "cripple" your hardware then, only messing mind you. Aslong as you enjoy it each to their own. I prefer gaming on Linux so don't buy games that don't support it.18:41
BluesKajtsimonq2,^18:41
tsimonq2BluesKaj: she thinks it's better than Windows 10 XD18:41
SwitchesYou know the best thing that could happen... Halflife3 being made as SteamOS exclusive.. I can hear the Windows users screaming already xD18:42
BluesKajtsimonq2, great , wish i could talk wife into Linux. However the drawback is LOTRO won't work too well in wine despite the experiences some linux users     experiences18:43
daftykinsnow that's a dead franchise, can't see Valve making anything decent if it ever did see the light of day18:43
tsimonq2but yeah, I'm running Unity 8 right now, so I can write a review to put on my blog, my notes document is already up to 4 pages for thep ast 3 days I've been using it XD18:43
daftykinsSwitches: understood, but i get annoyed by Linux community users who hold themselves back from choice solely down to these funny values18:44
SwitchesWell it's more down to my dislike of MS ethics and business practices, spending 15yrs as an oem for them you get a not so nice wake up call18:45
tsimonq2daftykins: one, I don't game, two, Linux is free, three, I can contribute18:45
tsimonq2simple as that18:45
EriC^^i'm helping this guy with his post windows install18:46
daftykinso018:46
EriC^^grub-reinstallation18:46
daftykinsh18:46
daftykins*ah18:46
EriC^^apparently the uuid in fstab for the efi partition is different, i guess windows formatted it18:46
EriC^^:D18:46
nicomachusI thought ncmpcpp with mpd was supposed to be easy18:46
tsimonq2daftykins: the only game I play when I'm really really REALLY bored is Minecraft, and they support Linux :D18:46
daftykinssigh, my mechanical keyboard is no longer letting vowels work at random on different days18:46
SwitchesBut thats me personally. Others have faired way better. Plus until Vulkan becomes a "stable" reality a lot of AAA publishers wont look twice at linux18:47
BluesKajnot a gamer either so my my time waster is fixing breakage on test OSs and support when I can18:47
daftykinsi am wondering when Doom will work with Vulkan18:47
tsimonq2but don't get me started on FreeBSD :P18:47
Switchesdaftykins: it already does, but its more a "tech demo" kind of thing, although from what i read it is totally playable18:48
BluesKajlooks to me like the only thing that will keep MS alive 5 yrs from now is games18:48
daftykinsSwitches: i really meant when it'd actually release with it18:48
SwitchesAhh18:49
daftykinsthink i saw a Linux user in another channel whinging that ID didn't realise with it ;)18:49
Switchesdaftykins: Well the basis is there so I would guess they just have to "switch it on" as it were18:49
tsimonq2+1 BluesKaj18:49
Switchesid wont release anything for Linux aslong as Bethesda and Zenimax are pulling the strings18:50
SwitchesThey don't see a reason to do it. Which is understandable although a bit of a downer as I still play a lot of Doom3 and Quake lol18:50
BluesKajtsimonq2, and insitutions committed to server 2k and XP , like banks and  slow to adopt corporations18:51
tsimonq2BluesKaj: yep18:51
daftykinsheh, i saw someone playing through doom3 before release of the latest recently... i was blown away by how bad it now looks in hindsight18:51
BluesKajmy bank still runs W2k18:51
* tsimonq2 reminds everyone of https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5Qj8p-PEwbI18:51
SwitchesAlthough I will admit I'm more interested at the moment in unreal tournament as that is already on Linux and playable18:52
daftykinsmmm i've had a couple of plays with the alpha18:52
SwitchesThe new UE4 engine Unreal Tournament that is18:52
Switchesyeah its great fun18:52
Switchesalthough the double jump has been changed a bit and feels weird to me18:53
BluesKajoops forgot to purge pulse ...brb18:56
DaniKittenHi20:27
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