[01:58] <glass> are there any recommended apps to get from the software boutique?
[02:09] <Gallomimia> all the apps which you like.
[02:09] <Gallomimia> its my finding that the "recommended" apps are already installed
[02:09] <Gallomimia> what are you planning to do with your computer glass?
[02:27] <pilne> i can't live without steam and hexchat, and i always install full vim, e3, and one of the text-based browsers.
[04:48] <Panxox> hello I have a problem, I can not match with any bluetooth device
[08:24] <gerald> ich spreche deutsch
[08:24] <gerald> wer noch?
[08:24] <gerald> hallo
[11:20] <isse> Hi guys
[11:20] <isse> Are you aware of any issue with skype on ubuntu ?
[11:20] <Akuli> No, works just fine for me
[11:21] <Akuli> https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Skype
[11:21] <isse> on my side, every message i send, has a triangle in front of it saying "Not delivered yet."
[11:21] <isse> I think it might be a setting or something...
[11:22] <isse> Is there any GPL alternative to skype?
[11:22] <Akuli> Sure there is, IRC if all you want is chatting and jitsi if you want (video) calls too
[11:24] <isse> does it support skype protocols ?
[11:25] <SuperEngineer> isse: thought of trying Telegram?
[11:26] <isse> never heard of it, but i'll give it a try for sure
[11:26] <SuperEngineer> well done ;-)
[11:26] <Akuli> isse, no but i supports google talk, or whatever that is.
[11:26] <Akuli> There's a bunch of other things it supports too.
[11:27] <isse> for now i just need to have something to talk to with my buddies on skype using linux
[11:29] <SuperEngineer> [if you use Telegram they will say, but I don't use Telegram"] - tell them to use it - smallest memory footprint on both desktop & mobile, easy efficient messenger service [encrypted if wanted]
[11:29] <Akuli> isse, and how is skype not working?
[11:29] <isse> it runs fine just as in windows
[11:30] <isse> but when i send messages, it puts a triangle in front of the message and when i hover the mouse over the triangle, it says Not delivered yet.
[11:30] <isse> and the messages never reach destination
[11:30] <Akuli> isse, are you connected to the internet?
[11:30] <Akuli> how did you install skype?
[11:30] <isse> if i'm talking right now, i think i do
[11:30] <isse> :)
[11:30] <SuperEngineer> ;)
[11:30] <isse> dpkg -i ...package
[11:31] <isse> the weird part is, it tell me when people sign in and out
[11:31] <isse> but that's it
[11:31] <Akuli> umm
[11:31] <isse> looks like the messages don't leave my computer
[11:31] <Akuli> dpkg -r skype, then install it like the link i posted suggests
[11:32] <SuperEngineer> isse I also had the same problem when installed on Ubuntu - my resolution... I removed it & went elsewhere
[11:33] <dsantos> does someone here can help me? I just installed ubuntu mate and I am having problems with root and bluetooth
[11:33] <SuperEngineer> have you tried it in Ubuntu-MATE? [as in download an ISO & try it via live CD/USB]
[11:34] <SuperEngineer> above msg for isse
[11:34] <isse> No, i haven't
[11:35] <SuperEngineer> may be worth a try - U-MATE does many thingsd that fail on vanilla Ubuntu
[11:35] <Akuli> isse, install the skype like the link suggests, its a newer version of skype
[11:35] <Akuli> let me post it again https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Skype
[11:35] <isse> i'm trying this right now
[11:35] <Akuli> remove the old package first
[11:36] <Akuli> "sudo apt-get remove skype" or "sudo dpkg -r skype"
[11:36] <isse> sudo dpkg -r skype
[11:36] <isse> (Reading database ... 260823 files and directories currently installed.)
[11:36] <isse> Removing skype (4.3.0.37-0ubuntu0.12.04.1) ...
[11:37] <isse> it's installed now
[11:37] <Akuli> ok, now try it.
[11:38] <isse> i write the msg, i press enter. Three dots appear in fron of the msg and after a few seconds, the same triangle apperars
[11:39] <isse> with an exclamation mark
[11:39] <Akuli> Then i don't know what to do. it has always worked for me.
[11:39] <Akuli> In ubuntu 14.04 based distros, that is :D
[11:39] <isse> No worries, thanks for trying to help me :)
[11:40] <isse> it worked for me also in debian
[11:40] <Akuli> Alright, so we'll blame 16.04 for this.
[11:40] <dsantos> does someone here can help me? I just installed ubuntu mate and I am having problems with root and bluetooth
[11:40] <isse> but now i moved to another country and i don't have my desktop with me
[11:40] <Akuli> dsantos, root and bluetooth? doesn't sound like a good idea...
[11:40] <isse> only the laptop on which i have ubuntu
[11:40] <dsantos> both, separate problems
[11:40] <Akuli> Ok :)
[11:41] <Akuli> dsantos, for bluetooth use trial and error with blueman, if you get actual error messages i can help
[11:41] <Akuli> but what's the problem with root?
[11:41] <dsantos> root: my username (dsantos) is the administrator of my ubuntu mate. So I am supposed to have the same password for root
[11:42] <Akuli> sudo -i will give you a root terminal
[11:42] <dsantos> but when I try to use sudo, for example, I receive the following error: "dsantos@dsantos-Inspiron-7520:~$ sudo -i [sudo] password for dsantos: dsantos is not in the sudoers file.  This incident will be reported."
[11:43] <Akuli> dsantos, what's the output of groups?
[11:43] <Akuli> type groups
[11:43] <dsantos> I searched the internet, no success
[11:43] <dsantos> dsantos@dsantos-Inspiron-7520:~$ groups
[11:43] <dsantos> dsantos bluetooth
[11:44] <dsantos> I tried only su as well: "dsantos@dsantos-Inspiron-7520:~$ su Password: su: Authentication failure"
[11:46] <Akuli> dsantos, you're not in the sudo group, is there other user accounts on the computer?
[11:46] <Akuli> if not, we'll need to fix this by booting directly to bash
[11:46] <Akuli> from grub
[11:46] <Akuli> or alternatively, chroot from live cd
[11:48] <dsantos> nope, just dsantos as user
[11:49] <Akuli> Do you have the installation dvd?
[11:50] <dsantos> I have the usb that I created
[11:50] <Akuli> dsantos, boot from it and come here from there.
[11:51] <dsantos> OK, I will come back, thanks Akuli
[12:02] <ubuntu-mate> Hello Akuli. It is me, dsantos.
[12:03] <Akuli> Ok :)
[12:03] <Akuli> Open a terminal, run this: lsblk | nc termbin.com 9999
[12:03] <Akuli> you can copy-paste that
[12:04] <ubuntu-mate> I will paste here the result:
[12:04] <ubuntu-mate> ubuntu-mate@ubuntu-mate:~$ lsblk | nc termbin.com 9999
[12:04] <ubuntu-mate> http://termbin.com/3l36
[12:05] <Akuli> Yes, the termbin.com link is all i needed
[12:09] <ubuntu-mate> ok thanks
[12:10] <Akuli> ubuntu-mate, you have about 10000 partitions, any idea which one ubuntu is installed on?
[12:10] <Akuli> I'm assuming it's either the 412GB one or the 500GB one
[12:12] <ubuntu-mate> Well Akuli, there is a little history here. I partitioned my 1 TB HD in order to have Ubuntu in the 500 GB partition and the Windows 10 in the 412 GB.
[12:13] <Akuli> Ok, in that case: sudo mount /dev/sda6 /mnt
[12:13] <ubuntu-mate> But when I installed ubuntu yesterday, looks like it was not installed in the 500 GB partition
[12:13] <ubuntu-mate> The installer created another partitions with something like 8,2 GB I dont know how
[12:14] <Akuli> Might that be the 9.6GB one you have there?
[12:15] <Akuli> Or the 7.9GB one on another hard drive, which is only 30GB in size?
[12:16] <ubuntu-mate> I really dont know. The installer created these partitions
[12:16] <Akuli> In that case let's try it
[12:17] <ubuntu-mate> my linux home folder is about 8,2 gb space. so maybe it is the 9.6Gb partition you told me
[12:17] <Akuli> Run this: sudo mount /dev/sda9 /mnt
[12:19] <ubuntu-mate> with space between sda9 and /mnt?
[12:22] <ubuntu-mate__> Hi Folx, I am just trying ubuntu MATE. I knew it just one day ago. I like this work and I am waiting for this for years! I don't like gnome 3.x or unity. I liked the gnome 2.x desktop and it
[12:22] <ubuntu-mate__> ...'s theme.
[12:22] <Akuli> yes ubuntu-mate
[12:22] <ubuntu-mate> I did once, nothing happened
[12:23] <Akuli> ubuntu-mate, good, then it worked
[12:23] <Akuli> ubuntu-mate, how about this? sudo chroot /mnt
[12:23] <ubuntu-mate> sudo chroot /mnt
[12:23] <ubuntu-mate> ops
[12:23] <Akuli> yes
[12:23] <ubuntu-mate> ubuntu-mate@ubuntu-mate:~$ sudo chroot /mnt
[12:23] <ubuntu-mate> chroot: failed to run command ‘/bin/bash’: No such file or directory
[12:23] <Akuli> ubuntu-mate, then that's not where your ubuntu is
[12:23] <Akuli> ubuntu-mate: umount /mnt
[12:23] <Akuli> oops
[12:23] <Akuli> sudo umount /mnt
[12:24] <ubuntu-mate__> Now I will change my xubuntu desktop to ubuntu MATE. Many thanks for this guys! :-)
[12:25] <ubuntu-mate> OK, nothing happened in the terminal
[12:27] <Akuli> ubuntu-mate, that means it worked :)
[12:27] <ubuntu-mate__> Oops, sorry if I interrupted something. What are you trying whith "chroot /mnt"?
[12:28] <Akuli> ubuntu-mate__, add ubuntu-mate's user to the sudo group so he can sudo things
[12:28] <Akuli> from the live cd
[12:28] <Akuli> ubuntu-mate, lets try sda10 next
[12:29] <Akuli> ubuntu-mate__, sudo mount /dev/sda10 /mnt
[12:29] <Akuli> oops
[12:29] <Akuli> ubuntu-mate, sudo mount /dev/sda10 /mnt
[12:30] <ubuntu-mate__> @Akuli: Ah, o.k. but isn't the live cd user in the sudo group by default?
[12:30] <Akuli> ubuntu-mate__, the live cd user is but for some reason his user on the installed system is not
[12:31] <ubuntu-mate> how can I change my name here? I dont want confusion here
[12:33] <ubuntu-mate> Akula, there is the answer of the terminal:
[12:33] <ubuntu-mate> ubuntu-mate@ubuntu-mate:~$ sudo mount /dev/sda10 /mnt
[12:33] <ubuntu-mate> NTFS signature is missing.
[12:33] <ubuntu-mate> Failed to mount '/dev/sda10': Invalid argument
[12:33] <ubuntu-mate> The device '/dev/sda10' doesn't seem to have a valid NTFS.
[12:33] <ubuntu-mate> Maybe the wrong device is used? Or the whole disk instead of a
[12:33] <ubuntu-mate> partition (e.g. /dev/sda, not /dev/sda1)? Or the other way around?
[12:33] <ubuntu-mate__> Akuli, so why the chroot thing? Is this not only a textfile editing thing?
[12:33] <Akuli> ubuntu-mate__, he's not in the sudo group
[12:34] <Akuli> ubuntu-mate, the command was correct but we still didn't find the correct drive
[12:34] <Akuli> you could go back to http://termbin.com/3l36 and try the other drives too, and see if you can chroot into them
[12:34] <Akuli> you can try everything under /dev/sda and /dev/sdb, nothing else
[12:35] <ubuntu-mate> what will happen in the terminal when I find the correct partition?
[12:37] <ubuntu-mate__> ubuntu mate, try "sudo mount -t <type> /dev/sda10 /mnt". <type> describes the data file system like NTFS, ext2, ext4 a.s.o.
[12:37] <ubuntu-mate__> try "fdisk -l" for partition listing.
[12:38] <ubuntu-mate__> Akuli, if you mount the system partition of the installed system with the live CD, the live CD user can edit the group list file...
[12:39] <Akuli> ubuntu-mate, after mounting "chroot /mnt" will work
[12:39] <Akuli> ubuntu-mate__, why to do it that hard? chroot is much easier, no need to go hacky and edit groups files :)
[12:39] <ubuntu-mate> Ok, I will try. Give me some minutes
[12:41] <ubuntu-mate> hey Akuli, take a look
[12:41] <ubuntu-mate> ubuntu-mate@ubuntu-mate:~$ sudo mount /dev/sdb4 /mnt
[12:41] <ubuntu-mate> ubuntu-mate@ubuntu-mate:~$ sudo chroot /mnt
[12:41] <ubuntu-mate> root@ubuntu-mate:/#
[12:41] <ubuntu-mate> is it worked?
[12:41] <ubuntu-mate__> I think, editing an text file is easier than manipulate the running system with mechanisms like chroot. But everybody have his own favorits... :-)
[12:41] <Akuli> ubuntu-mate, it worked.
[12:41] <ubuntu-mate> Great! What now?
[12:41] <Akuli> ubuntu-mate__, do you remember how to add existing user to group?
[12:42] <Akuli> I could google it, but if you're such a pro you might as well take it from here :)
[12:42] <Akuli> in the end, just exit out of chroot and umount /mnt, and he's done :)
[12:42] <ubuntu-mate__> actually no, but google is very helpful... :-)
[12:42] <Akuli> ok, in that case i'll google.
[12:43] <ubuntu-mate> thanks guys. When I google it, it is not useful. Such a beginner here
[12:43] <Akuli> ubuntu-mate, usermod -a -G sudo yourusernamehere
[12:43] <ubuntu-mate__> Hm, google is for beginners...like me.
[12:44] <Akuli> man pages are for the real nerds :)
[12:44] <Akuli> There's actually a getting started manpage, but i forgot which one it is
[12:44] <ubuntu-mate__> Akuli, you got it!
[12:48] <ubuntu-mate__> O.k., I came here, just to thank you for the greate work on ubuntu MATE. So: THANK YOU ALL! :-)) Nice work and keep going on! I have to go now. Maybe we meet another day. Bye & thanks!
[12:49] <ubuntu-mate> Bye ubuntu-mate__
[12:50] <ubuntu-mate> Akuli, dont leave me please! lol
[12:50] <Akuli> Ok :)
[12:50] <Akuli> did you run the last command?
[12:50] <Akuli> usermod -a -G sudo yourusernamehere
[12:52] <ubuntu-mate> nope, didnt see it here
[12:53] <ubuntu-mate> nothing happened:
[12:53] <ubuntu-mate> root@ubuntu-mate:/# usermod -a -G sudo dsantos
[12:53] <ubuntu-mate> root@ubuntu-mate:/#
[12:56] <Akuli> ubuntu-mate, now run this: su yourusernamehere
[12:57] <Akuli> enter your password and you're logged in to your system,
[12:57] <Akuli> try running something with sudo, for example: sudo echo hello this works
[12:58] <ubuntu-mate> this happened?
[12:58] <ubuntu-mate> root@ubuntu-mate:/# su dsantos
[12:58] <ubuntu-mate> open: Permission denied
[12:58] <ubuntu-mate> Error locking counter
[12:58] <ubuntu-mate> To run a command as administrator (user "root"), use "sudo <command>".
[12:58] <ubuntu-mate> See "man sudo_root" for details.
[12:58] <ubuntu-mate> dsantos@ubuntu-mate:/$
[12:59] <Akuli> hmm, type exit
[12:59] <Akuli> then: sudo umount /mnt
[12:59] <Akuli> then reboot and see if it worked
[13:00] <ouroumov> hang on
[13:00] <ouroumov> the last error message was because of the chroot I think
[13:00] <ouroumov> See his username after su
[13:02] <Akuli> I think so
[13:03] <ubuntu-mate> ok, see you in a minute
[13:05] <dsantos> Yeah Akuli, it worked!! Thanks a lot!!!
[13:05] <Akuli> Nice :)
[13:05] <dsantos> now, bluetooth? =)
[13:05] <Akuli> Like i said, install blueman if it's not already installed and try to get it to work.
[13:07] <dsantos> OK I will reboot now I take a look
[13:07] <dsantos> *and
[13:09] <dsantos> I cant believe how this can reboot so fast! Windows is really shit
[13:11] <dsantos> well Akuli, the software is working. It detects my smartphone HTC, but not my headset =(
[13:12] <Akuli> dsantos, ubuntu mate is not fast, my old 2x23GHz processor laptop reboots in about 60 seconds with devuan :)
[13:12] <Akuli> 2GB of RAM
[13:13] <dsantos> I reboot mine in like 20 seconds. Unbelievable. The windows 10 takes about 3-5 minutes now. I guess it is full of viruses and malware
[13:16] <Akuli> No, it's not
[13:17] <Akuli> It's windows, it's supposed to be slow :)
[13:17] <ouroumov> One might argue Windows itself is malware.
[13:17] <Akuli> That simple. Your antivirus is probably slowing it down a lot.
[13:20] <dsantos> Lol, but unfortunately their office it is better than LibreOffice in my opinion. Otherwise my laptop would be 100% linux
[13:20] <dsantos> but my bluetooth headset doesn't detect here =(
[13:21] <Akuli> In fact, distros like ubuntu are never 100% linux
[13:21] <Akuli> linux is just the kernel, people should give more credit to the GNU project because it existed before the linux kernel and is the whole reason why the kernel is free nowadays
[13:22] <ouroumov> Yes
[13:22] <ouroumov> Also the sole reason the Kernel is used nowadays
[13:23] <dsantos> Oh I see. I saw on video about that. Sorry, it is just I am used to say Linux instead of the name of the distro
[13:24] <Akuli> GNU/Linux would be more fair :)
[13:26] <dsantos> =)
[13:27] <dsantos> Hey Akuli, would you help me with my bluetooth headset please? I tried to solve it by myself using google and I ended up lose my root privileges... =(
[13:27] <Akuli> dsantos, is it powered on and still not appearing in blueman?
[13:27] <Akuli> more about gnu and linux, in case someone wants something to read :) http://www.gnu.org/gnu/linux-and-gnu.html
[13:28] <dsantos> Yes, it is powered on and nothing
[13:29] <dsantos> my HTC smartphone appears and I already paired it with ubuntu
[13:29] <Akuli> blueman doesn't find anything?
[13:29] <Akuli> If not, try your luck on #ubuntu
[13:31] <dsantos> Ok Akuli, thank you very much for your help. Otherwise I would probably give up Ubuntu Mate
[14:45] <lannerk> oppps
[14:45] <lannerk> sss
[14:45] <lannerk> aaa
[14:45] <lannerk> ccc
[15:41] <zoro> hi everyone, is there anyone out there? :)
[15:42] <teward> zoro: you get better results with actual questions
[15:42] <teward> (not "is anyone there")
[15:43] <zoro> ah, ok
[15:44] <zoro> so, I have a fresh installation of 16.04 updated with "dist-upgrade" and then I installed nvidia-361 on my optimus lenovo g580. Now I have a problem connecting my external monitor and making it the primary monitor
[15:44] <zoro> when I'm using the nvidia prime profile
[15:45] <zoro> whenever I set the external display as primary, both displays blackout
[15:45] <zoro> external display get disconnected and I'm logged out of the system
[15:45] <zoro> on the laptop screen
[15:47] <zoro> I can't use nvidia-settings to configure the monitors because all I see is one large "scanout" screen
[15:50] <zoro> is there a way I can use the external monitor as the primary monitor on the nvidia driver?
[15:51] <benjamin_goldsto> my welcome screen says install now
[15:51] <ouroumov> zoro, does it persists across a reboot?
[15:52] <benjamin_goldsto> yes
[15:52] <ouroumov> benjamin_goldsto, not talking to you, you've not mentioned whatever problem you have yet
[15:53] <zoro> ouroumov, yes, this is after rebooting
[15:53] <zoro> should I try using older nvidia driver?
[15:54] <zoro> I think that intel prime profile doesn't have this problem
[15:54] <ouroumov> zoro, I have very little knowledge about that class of issue. I know there has been quite a few users posting on the community forum about optimus & stuff
[15:54] <ouroumov> zoro, so I'd recommend you check the forums
[15:56] <ouroumov> benjamin_goldsto, my guess is welcome will keep on teeling you that until you install
[15:56] <zoro> ouroumov, ok I'll checkout the forum
[15:56] <zoro> thanks
[15:57] <benjamin_goldsto> it is installed on hdd
[15:57] <ouroumov> benjamin_goldsto, and you have removed the live boot media?
[15:58] <benjamin_goldsto> yes
[15:58] <ouroumov> that's wreird
[15:58] <ouroumov> weird *
[15:59] <ouroumov> Have you done the post install full upgrade & subscribed to Welcome updates?
[15:59] <ouroumov> Not even sure that's an option for you though
[16:01] <Akuli> what's weird?
[16:07] <Captain_Wozzeck> Can anyone recommend a good launcher? Was using Albert but it was extremely buggy - kept crashing!
[16:08] <Akuli> launcher?
[16:10] <ouroumov> Captain_Wozzeck, you're not satisfied with synapse either?
[16:10] <Captain_Wozzeck> Something to launch apps and find files with the keyboard
[16:11] <ouroumov> Akuli, benjamin_goldsto has weird Welcome behavior: he installed to disk yet welcome says "install now"
[16:12] <Captain_Wozzeck> Haven't tried synapse. Thanks for the suggestion! I see it it in repos
[16:12] <ouroumov> no Captain_Wozzeck
[16:12] <ouroumov> It's part of the standard Ubuntu MATE install
[16:13] <Captain_Wozzeck> Wow, so I have a launcher installed already and I didn't know about it! (facepalm)
[16:13] <ouroumov> Go to MATE Tweak
[16:13] <ouroumov> Under "Interface", check "enable launcher"
[16:14] <Captain_Wozzeck> @ouroumov thanks so much! That looks perfect
[16:14] <ouroumov> Captain_Wozzeck, you can tweak the activation shortcut and some other things in synapse preferences
[16:15] <ouroumov> Access those by hitting the bullet on the top right of the window
[16:15] <Captain_Wozzeck> Awesome. Thanks for the help :)
[17:22] <RobLoach> Hello from Pidgin!
[17:23] <ouroumov> hello
[17:24] <ouroumov> * from hexchat
[17:30] <SuperEngineer> hello from MyPlanetIsNotTheSameAsYourPlanet [but I live on this planet as a research project]  ;-)
[17:31] <SuperEngineer> ...and your tuna fish is sooooo much nicer than ours!
[17:58] <Gallomimia> launchers?
[17:58] <Gallomimia> are they good?
[17:59] <Gallomimia> also, hello from Quassel
[17:59] <Gallomimia> client/core arrangement
[17:59] <Gallomimia> where the hell is Supercheese
[18:00] <Gallomimia> figures i would start poking at the code for his mod and he'd fuck off :P
[18:00] <ouroumov> ~
[18:01] <kisb> its important not to miss taking any medication
[18:01] <Gallomimia> yes
[18:01] <Gallomimia> hey whoa. ZFS for debian and GNU is out
[18:05] <dsantos> Hello Akuli. My headset is finally working! =)
[18:08] <Akuli> Nice!
[18:09] <dsantos> I have another issue now. Do you remember what I told about the partitions? I made one 500 GB partition for the Ubuntu but the installer created others
[18:09] <Akuli> dsantos, run lsblk | nc termbin.com 999 again
[18:09] <Akuli> oops
[18:09] <Akuli> lsblk | nc termbin.com 9999
[18:09] <Akuli> thats better
[18:09] <dsantos> I would like to merge this 500 GB partition with the 13,2 Gb system
[18:09] <Gallomimia> you have to be pretty specific about what you tell it to do
[18:09] <dsantos> I downloaded softwares and it is already full
[18:09] <Akuli> dsantos, Also, explain briefly what you did to make the headphones work
[18:09] <Gallomimia> if you say just install, it makes a swap partition
[18:10] <dsantos> http://termbin.com/kpxv
[18:11] <dsantos> the ubuntu is in sdb4. It has only 13,4 GB. I'd like to merge it with the 500 GB one
[18:11] <dsantos> I read some forums but I am afraid to try something alone and screw everything
[18:14] <Akuli> dsantos, you sure 500GB is not windows?
[18:14] <Akuli> ok, you are :)
[18:14] <dsantos> yeah, I am sure. I created this on Windows
[18:14] <Akuli> Your problem is that it's on another disk
[18:15] <Akuli> we could set up your /home there, but if it's getting full of installing programs it won't help any...
[18:15] <Akuli> I don't have time now, let's come back to this in 21 hours or so :)
[18:16] <dsantos> ok, at least I need to know how to install the ubuntu softwares there
[18:16] <dsantos> if it is possible
[18:54] <Gallomimia> 13GB is pretty much fine for a ubuntu install if /home is on another partition
[18:54] <Gallomimia> hm. you have crypt swap but the rest of your drive is not encyrpted?
[19:49] <jckoh> Hi, I've got a quick newbie question. If I'm trying to run ubuntu mate on a asus eee 901 with a 4gb and a 16gb partition, what should my partition table look like?
[19:50] <ouroumov> hi jckoh
[19:50] <ouroumov> jckoh, you mean 4GB ram and 16GB usable storage?
[19:51] <jckoh> Nah, for some reason the 901 has two ssd harddrives, one 4gb and one 16gb
[19:52] <jckoh> I'm not sure if I should just put everything on the 16gb drive or not.
[19:53] <ouroumov> How much RAM does it have?
[19:54] <jckoh> 2gb
[19:54] <ouroumov> So I'd say, use the 4GB partition as SWAP
[19:55] <ouroumov> Then, just use the whole 16GB partition as ext4 filesystem, with mount point: "/"
[19:55] <jckoh> Okie dokie. Thank you!
[20:03] <fifty-sevenC> I want to install connman and get rid of network-manager because it keeps crashing on resume and anytime I try to use bluetooth.
[20:03] <fifty-sevenC> But when I try to it marks ubuntu-mate-core and ubuntu-mate-desktop to be uninstalled
[20:04] <fifty-sevenC> It looks like they don't actually do anything. Will doing this break anything?
[20:07] <ouroumov> According to the forums those are meta-packages that are safe to remove. I'm not clear on the details but why don't you just leave nm in and deactivate it?
[20:34] <satellit> FYI have sugar-desktop on rpi3 Ubuntu-MATE https://wiki.sugarlabs.org/go/Ubuntu_on_rpi3
[20:34] <gordonjcp> satellit: sugar-desktop?
[20:34] <gordonjcp> satellit: oh!  OLPC?
[20:34] <satellit> a second DE
[20:35] <satellit> nice
[20:35] <satellit> need collaboration through jabber thoug
[20:35] <satellit> though*
[20:37] <gordonjcp> satellit: nice, did you port that?
[20:37] <satellit> no used symantic to find existing bits
[20:38] <gordonjcp> oh okay
[20:38] <satellit> thanks for a great rpi3 img
[20:40] <satellit> https://wiki.sugarlabs.org/go/Sugar_Creation_Kit#Community_Distributions_A_Complete_Listing
[20:56] <juan_> hola
[21:15] <ouroumov> halo
[21:27] <juan_> hola acabo de instalar ubuntu mate
[21:27] <juan_> no encuentro el centro de aplicaciones
[21:27] <juan_> alguien me puede ayudar
[21:32] <gordonjcp> juan_: espanol?  #ubuntu-es ?
[21:33] <juan_> si
[21:33] <X-Files> juan_, Sistema > Centro de control
[21:33] <gordonjcp> oh even better
[21:33] <juan_> en software boutique?
[21:34] <X-Files> juan_, sí.
[21:34] <juan_> muhas gracias
[21:34] <X-Files> juan_, de nada.
[21:45] <fifty-sevenC> Well
[21:46] <fifty-sevenC> That was a bad time
[21:48] <gordonjcp> fifty-sevenC: what's up?
[21:50] <fifty-sevenC> old connman packages that don't work on ubuntu 16.04 lol
[21:51] <fifty-sevenC> and as it turns out
[21:51] <fifty-sevenC> if you decide to mess with packages responsible for you being able to connect to networks, you should probably make some backup downloads of what already works lol
[21:51] <fifty-sevenC> Glad that cude server works
[21:51] <fifty-sevenC> cube*
[21:52] <gordonjcp> fifty-sevenC: ah, btdt
[21:52] <fifty-sevenC> what is btdt?
[21:53] <fifty-sevenC> and why does 16.04 have connman packages from builds more than 2 years ago
[21:57] <gordonjcp> Been There Done That
[21:58] <gordonjcp> maybe the package hasn't changed much?
[21:58] <gordonjcp> what does connman do?
[21:58] <fifty-sevenC> It is the intel connection manager
[21:58] <fifty-sevenC> I have an intel wifi and bluetooth card so I figured bluetooth would work better
[21:58] <fifty-sevenC> Since network manager crashes and does an absolute poor job with bluetooth
[21:59] <fifty-sevenC> Anything bluetooth related I have to use bluez command lines on
[21:59] <fifty-sevenC> or else network manager crashes
[22:00] <gordonjcp> :-/
[22:00] <gordonjcp> I don't think I've tried bluetooth on MATE yet
[22:00] <gordonjcp> it works in Linux generally on my laptop
[22:00] <fifty-sevenC> Well, network manager is just bad with it
[22:00] <fifty-sevenC> It can't pair anything
[22:00] <fifty-sevenC> can't connect to anything
[22:00] <fifty-sevenC> fights with bluez
[22:01] <fifty-sevenC> network manager also crashes sometimes on resume
[22:01] <fifty-sevenC> not even just with bluetooth. And I have a bog standard intel card so I don't get why
[22:33] <Daniele-mate> hi
[22:34] <Daniele-mate> someone know how install audio driver?
[22:34] <Daniele-mate> on ubuntu 16.04
[22:50] <travisyard> Hey guys, I'd appreciate some help with a problem I am having on 16.04. Telegram massager does not update when I click on the update button. Expected behavior is that it would close and reopen after performing an update, but it stays closed and does not update. Is this because I installed it from the Boutique software manager? And how could I upgrade it without erasing the data that is on it? Thanks!
[22:58] <fifty-sevenC> I don't see telegram in the repo
[23:00] <travisyard> I got it from Software Boutique.
[23:00] <travisyard> It says that it is from ppa:flexiondotorg/telegram
[23:01] <fifty-sevenC> open a console
[23:01] <fifty-sevenC> type
[23:01] <travisyard> k
[23:02] <fifty-sevenC> sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get upgrade
[23:02] <fifty-sevenC> if there are any updates it will do them
[23:03] <travisyard> OK, it's running
[23:06] <fifty-sevenC> The software updater will ussually ask you if you want to update, but you can always make it run yourself with that
[23:06] <travisyard> Yeah, it just said it was unpacking Telegram, that's a good sign ^^
[23:06] <travisyard> Thanks man.
[23:07] <travisyard> Or woman :P
[23:08] <travisyard> I wonder, does the gui updater run this exact command? Because running it before didn't do the trick
[23:12] <fifty-sevenC> I'm not sure. I don't use the gui
[23:12] <fifty-sevenC> it just runs whenever it get around to it
[23:18] <travisyard> Well, it worked, thank goodness. ^^;