[03:27] mhall119: I'm facing the same Ubuntu Store issue that you are in Unity 8 (I'm trying it out myself) [03:27] mhall119: I just can't get it to download [03:28] mhall119: what did you do to download the click package manually? [05:56] hello! [05:56] hello! [05:57] I have a problem starting my libertine container, I have the trace here http://pastebin.com/a72gQhcX [06:07] the line the error occurs at is "session_socket_path = set_dbus_session_socket_path()" (libertine-launch:77) === aix is now known as Guest37906 [06:11] QUESTION: Will Ubuntu 16.10 and Unity 8 have Mycroft Integration ? === Guest37906 is now known as Keyz [11:56] zzarr, if you're trying to start an X app in a libertine container from the command line under Unity 8 you're going to be disappointed because there's no X server in Unity 8 -- that's what that error message is telling you [11:59] zzarr, if you're on the desktop, you will need to upgrade from the stable-phone-overlay to get the latest Unity 8 packages and install and used the libertine scope to launch the application, or else create a custom .desktop file and use ubuntu-app-launch to launch from the command line [14:31] tsimonq2: there's a link on my blog to download a few clicks from my people.ubuntu.com folder [15:07] bregma, stable-phone-overlay? [15:07] is there a ppa for that? [15:08] I have the ppa for libertine-team's ppa, should I remove that? [15:36] zzarr, https://launchpad.net/~ci-train-ppa-service/+archive/ubuntu/stable-phone-overlay [15:37] zzarr, I would not recommend using the libertine-team PPA, it's not officially released, it may not be complete, and it's not supported [15:39] zzarr, don't worry about the name of the stable-phone-overlay if you're using Ubuntu 16.04 on the desktop, even though it has the work 'phone' in its name [15:39] *word, not work [15:42] things in the stable-phone-overlay PPA also land in Yakkety Yak, and in Ubuntu Touch, and most of the Unity 8 related stuff is destined to be SRU'd into Ubuntu 16.04 from time to time [15:52] SRU? [15:54] I installed the stable-phone-overlay ppa and ran apt update and apt dist-upgrade, but it didn't upgrade any packages [15:55] (I removed the libertine-team ppa first) [16:04] zzarr: "SRU" is a Stable Release Update, it means an update that goes into the main or universe archive of a released version of Ubuntu [16:04] thanks Michael :-) [16:05] I'm Rasmus Jonsson (the one who wrote on G+) [16:05] hello Rasmus :) [16:06] is it possible to get a 3D accelerated java to work in libertine? [16:07] bregma: does XMir support 3d acceleration? [16:08] zzarr, mhall119, yes in theory since the /dev/dri and friends are all available (at least on desktop) but I do believe there are some missing puzzle pieces in XMir that need to fall in place before it can be used properly [16:09] I tried "glxinfo | grep direct" it says it's accelerated, but launching an application that requires opengl fails [16:09] I'm not familiar wit hthe details at that level, but I understand it's not a technical limitation so much as we just haven't fund the time to work on that aspect yet [16:09] bregma, I see, that explains it [16:10] any Idea when "alt-gr" will work? [16:11] I live in Sweden and have a swedish layout on my keyboard [16:11] zzarr, I think that has been fixed in the version of Mir that's in the stable-phone-overlay, but it might be in the next version (which is delayed by the OTA-11 Touch release) [16:12] so characters like @ and | requires me to change layout to US [16:12] we have a number of German developers who are also affected, so that particular bug has had attention [16:12] okey, but that's just around the corner right? [16:12] nice [16:14] I know this question might be like asking "how long is a rope", but when do you think opengl will work properly in XMir? [16:19] zzarr, I really don't know, but getting games to work in libertine is actually a high priority for Yakketty so it's likely before the 16.10 release [16:21] nice [16:22] we've demoed WebGL on Firefox running in Libertine, so any problem is likely somewhere in Mesa and has to do with getting a working OpenGL graphics context through a code path that expects a certain x.org DDX behaviour, but I'm not an expert at that level of the technology [16:24] I don't even know what that means [16:24] * bregma waves his hands in the air [16:24] it's all very complex [16:24] right now I can't evenlaunch any XMir/libertine app [16:25] that I do know >/( [16:25] not thinking... US layout not SE [16:25] :-) was it supposed to be [16:27] the file manager don't work ether (the one in Unity 8) [16:27] if you install Firefox in a libertine container and use it to go to http://webglsamples.org/aquarium/aquarium.html you should see hardware-accelerated OpenGL running [16:28] okey, but right now I only get a black window [16:28] if I try to install a package in the libertine container it failes as well [16:29] it stopped working after a reboot [16:30] it feels like a service is not running or some environment variable is not set or not set correct [16:31] zzarr, check the log files in ~/.cache/upstart, it sounds like something odd going on [16:31] okey [16:37] (EE) [16:37] that is what gimp says [16:37] application-legacy-puritine_gimp_0.0-.log [18:31] mhall119: but I can't download more than those, for example, I would like the Google Hangups and Gmail apps, but I can [18:31] *can't get those [18:31] mhall119: and yes, I installed all of those click packages you listed :) [20:21] tsimonq2: does the store work for you? [20:21] tsimonq2: btw, I'm at a conference this week, so expect long delays from me :) [20:38] mhall119: no, I get a dowmload error [20:38] *download [20:39] mhall119: it's bug 1371820 [20:39] bug 1371820 in unity8-desktop-session (Ubuntu) "Ubuntu Store Download Error, install failed." [High,Triaged] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1371820 [20:39] mhall119: you mentioned something in your blog post but you weren't specific [20:40] mhall119: but as a workaround, how do I manually download click packages? [22:44] tsimonq2: there really isn't a way to do that [22:45] tsimonq2: do you have packagekit-plugin-click installed? [22:47] mhall119, no download with "manage version" on myapps.developer.ubuntu.com? [22:50] OerHeks: only for your own packages [22:50] mhall119, oh oke, thanks. [22:50] i was just wondering..