[03:27] <tsimonq2> mhall119: I'm facing the same Ubuntu Store issue that you are in Unity 8 (I'm trying it out myself)
[03:27] <tsimonq2> mhall119: I just can't get it to download
[03:28] <tsimonq2> mhall119: what did you do to download the click package manually?
[05:56] <zzarr> hello!
[05:56] <zzarr> hello!
[05:57] <zzarr> I have a problem starting my libertine container, I have the trace here http://pastebin.com/a72gQhcX
[06:07] <zzarr> the line the error occurs at is "session_socket_path = set_dbus_session_socket_path()" (libertine-launch:77)
[06:11] <Guest37906> QUESTION: Will Ubuntu 16.10 and Unity 8 have Mycroft Integration ?
[11:56] <bregma> zzarr, if you're trying to start an X app in a libertine container from the command line under Unity 8 you're going to be disappointed because there's no X server in Unity 8 -- that's what that error message is telling you
[11:59] <bregma> zzarr, if you're on the desktop, you will need to upgrade from the stable-phone-overlay to get the latest Unity 8 packages and install and used the libertine scope to launch the application, or else create a custom .desktop file and use ubuntu-app-launch to launch from the command line
[14:31] <mhall119> tsimonq2: there's a link on my blog to download a few clicks from my people.ubuntu.com folder
[15:07] <zzarr> bregma, stable-phone-overlay?
[15:07] <zzarr> is there a ppa for that?
[15:08] <zzarr> I have the ppa for libertine-team's ppa, should I remove that?
[15:36] <bregma> zzarr, https://launchpad.net/~ci-train-ppa-service/+archive/ubuntu/stable-phone-overlay
[15:37] <bregma> zzarr, I would not recommend using the libertine-team PPA, it's not officially released, it may not be complete, and it's not supported
[15:39] <bregma> zzarr, don't worry about the name of the stable-phone-overlay if you're using Ubuntu 16.04 on the desktop, even though it has the work 'phone' in its name
[15:39] <bregma> *word, not work
[15:42] <bregma> things in the stable-phone-overlay PPA also land in Yakkety Yak, and in Ubuntu Touch, and most of the Unity 8 related stuff is destined to be SRU'd into Ubuntu 16.04 from time to time
[15:52] <zzarr> SRU?
[15:54] <zzarr> I installed the stable-phone-overlay ppa and ran apt update and apt dist-upgrade, but it didn't upgrade any packages
[15:55] <zzarr> (I removed the libertine-team ppa first)
[16:04] <mhall119> zzarr: "SRU" is a Stable Release Update, it means an update that goes into the main or universe archive of a released version of Ubuntu
[16:04] <zzarr> thanks Michael :-)
[16:05] <zzarr> I'm Rasmus Jonsson (the one who wrote on G+)
[16:05] <mhall119> hello Rasmus :)
[16:06] <zzarr> is it possible to get a 3D accelerated java to work in libertine?
[16:07] <mhall119> bregma: does XMir support 3d acceleration?
[16:08] <bregma> zzarr, mhall119, yes in theory since the /dev/dri and friends are all available (at least on desktop) but I do believe there are some missing puzzle pieces in XMir that need to fall in place before it can be used properly
[16:09] <zzarr> I tried "glxinfo | grep direct" it says it's accelerated, but launching an application that requires opengl fails
[16:09] <bregma> I'm not familiar wit hthe details at that level, but I understand it's not a technical limitation so much as we just haven't fund the time to work on that aspect yet
[16:09] <zzarr> bregma, I see, that explains it
[16:10] <zzarr> any Idea when "alt-gr" will work?
[16:11] <zzarr> I live in Sweden and have a swedish layout on my keyboard
[16:11] <bregma> zzarr, I think that has been fixed in the version of Mir that's in the stable-phone-overlay, but it might be in the next version (which is delayed by the OTA-11 Touch release)
[16:12] <zzarr> so characters like @ and | requires me to change layout to US
[16:12] <bregma> we have a number of German developers who are also affected, so that particular bug has had attention
[16:12] <zzarr> okey, but that's just around the corner right?
[16:12] <zzarr> nice
[16:14] <zzarr> I know this question might be like asking "how long is a rope", but when do you think opengl will work properly in XMir?
[16:19] <bregma> zzarr, I really don't know, but getting games to work in libertine is actually a high priority for Yakketty so it's likely before the 16.10 release
[16:21] <zzarr> nice
[16:22] <bregma> we've demoed WebGL on Firefox running in Libertine, so any problem is likely somewhere in Mesa and has to do with getting a working OpenGL graphics context through a code path that expects a certain x.org DDX behaviour, but I'm not an expert at that level of the technology
[16:24] <zzarr> I don't even know what that means
[16:24]  * bregma waves his hands in the air
[16:24] <bregma> it's all very complex
[16:24] <zzarr> right now I can't evenlaunch any XMir/libertine app
[16:25] <zzarr> that I do know >/(
[16:25] <zzarr> not thinking... US layout not SE
[16:25] <zzarr> :-) was it supposed to be
[16:27] <zzarr> the file manager don't work ether (the one in Unity 8)
[16:27] <bregma> if you install Firefox in a libertine container and use it to go to http://webglsamples.org/aquarium/aquarium.html you should see hardware-accelerated OpenGL running
[16:28] <zzarr> okey, but right now I only get a black window
[16:28] <zzarr> if I try to install a package in the libertine container it failes as well
[16:29] <zzarr> it stopped working after a reboot
[16:30] <zzarr> it feels like a service is not running or some environment variable is not set or not set correct
[16:31] <bregma> zzarr, check the log files in ~/.cache/upstart, it sounds like something odd going on
[16:31] <zzarr> okey
[16:37] <zzarr> (EE)
[16:37] <zzarr> that is what gimp says
[16:37] <zzarr> application-legacy-puritine_gimp_0.0-<timestamp>.log
[18:31] <tsimonq2> mhall119: but I can't download more than those, for example, I would like the Google Hangups and Gmail apps, but I can
[18:31] <tsimonq2> *can't get those
[18:31] <tsimonq2> mhall119: and yes, I installed all of those click packages you listed :)
[20:21] <mhall119> tsimonq2: does the store work for you?
[20:21] <mhall119> tsimonq2: btw, I'm at a conference this week, so expect long delays from me :)
[20:38] <tsimonq2> mhall119: no, I get a dowmload error
[20:38] <tsimonq2> *download
[20:39] <tsimonq2> mhall119: it's bug 1371820
[20:39] <tsimonq2> mhall119: you mentioned something in your blog post but you weren't specific
[20:40] <tsimonq2> mhall119: but as a workaround, how do I manually download click packages?
[22:44] <mhall119> tsimonq2: there really isn't a way to do that
[22:45] <mhall119> tsimonq2: do you have packagekit-plugin-click installed?
[22:47] <OerHeks> mhall119, no download with "manage version" on myapps.developer.ubuntu.com?
[22:50] <mhall119> OerHeks: only for your own packages
[22:50] <OerHeks> mhall119, oh oke, thanks.
[22:50] <OerHeks> i was just wondering..