| gremble | Good morning | 06:30 |
|---|---|---|
| theblazehen | Hi gremble | 06:33 |
| gremble | How are you theblazehen | 06:33 |
| theblazehen | Alright and you gremble ? | 06:34 |
| gremble | I am well thank you. | 06:34 |
| gremble | Trying to figure out how I would go about consuming a list from its arse first | 06:34 |
| theblazehen | Ah | 06:35 |
| * theblazehen wishes bar ones workes | 06:35 | |
| theblazehen | "For a 25 hour day" | 06:35 |
| gremble | Haha They have nice nougat though. Although I am not so sure that it is real nougat | 06:36 |
| gremble | You're finishing with school this year right? Or did you do that last year? | 06:38 |
| theblazehen | Finished last year | 06:40 |
| theblazehen | Now got an internship and a job.. Lots of work :/ | 06:40 |
| theblazehen | Haven't had time to study for quite a while even :( | 06:40 |
| gremble | That is not bad. As what? | 06:40 |
| theblazehen | Internship as a more devopsy kinda thing, and job as a more "normal/traditional" Linux admin + some dev work | 06:41 |
| gremble | Sounds like you're not doing to bad for yourself. Even if you are very busy :P | 06:42 |
| theblazehen | Heh yeah | 06:42 |
| theblazehen | Barely managed to break even on work yesterday.. As I go to complete tasks I find new tasks that are dependencies for it.. | 06:48 |
| magespawn | good morning | 06:50 |
| magespawn | theblazehen: does the work flow nicely though? | 06:50 |
| gremble | good morning magespawn | 06:51 |
| theblazehen | hi magespawn. How exactly do you mean by that? | 06:51 |
| magespawn | hi gremble | 06:51 |
| gremble | This is probably very off-topic, but is it mage-spawn or mages-pawn? haha | 06:51 |
| magespawn | well sometimes the work piles up but there is still a logical/straight path to follow through the pile making easiers to focus on what is happening now | 06:52 |
| magespawn | the first one gremble | 06:52 |
| magespawn | s/easiers/easier | 06:53 |
| theblazehen | magespawn: Not always. At the moment theres like 3 different "paths" of things to do or so | 06:58 |
| magespawn | ahh then you have my sympathy for that, but better than being bored ... | 07:00 |
| theblazehen | Yeah, it sucks a bit... And true. I'd love to take a day off sometime though :( Like a full day, not just 30 min - 1 hour or so. But that's not happening anytime soon | 07:02 |
| mazal | Mornings | 08:31 |
| mazal | maaz tell kilos Nee om ek het nie | 08:31 |
| Maaz | mazal: Got it, I'll tell Kilos on freenode | 08:31 |
| Kilos | afternoon everyone | 11:24 |
| Kilos | 15 hours without power | 11:24 |
| gremble | That is a long time | 11:25 |
| gremble | Hey Kilos | 11:25 |
| Kilos | hi gremble | 11:25 |
| Kilos | and rather cold outside | 11:25 |
| gremble | It is somewhat wet and chilly | 11:25 |
| gremble | Pancake weather, if someone else makes the pancakes | 11:25 |
| Kilos | somewhat | 11:26 |
| Kilos | soup and pancake wheather yeah | 11:26 |
| Kilos | bushtech het julledam bietjie meer water in | 11:30 |
| Kilos | 45mm hier | 11:30 |
| bushtech | Kilos: ons net 23mm gehad. Dwaf update net weekliks so sal hopelik maandag kan sien | 11:41 |
| Kilos | sjoe | 11:41 |
| bushtech | 15 uur! en eksdom brag so hulle probleme is oor hah ha | 11:43 |
| Kilos | hierdie is pta electric | 11:43 |
| Kilos | krag nou weer af en aan gegaan | 11:44 |
| Kilos | ai! | 11:44 |
| bushtech | sug | 11:46 |
| Kilos | times likethis on realises how reliant we are on power | 12:01 |
| Kilos | luckily after many years of camping we have a good supply of gas equipment | 12:01 |
| Kilos | only cold showers kinda suck | 12:02 |
| bushtech | power is one thing but it's gonna get rough when the water fails | 12:02 |
| gremble | Our water fails quite regularly | 12:03 |
| Kilos | we pump our own and borehole can take another 2 lengths of pipe | 12:03 |
| gremble | Because we live higher than the supply pipe, if there is a leak, we have no water | 12:03 |
| Kilos | so here no power no water | 12:03 |
| Kilos | eish | 12:03 |
| Kilos | water is life | 12:04 |
| Kilos | same as air | 12:04 |
| bushtech | just imagine some guy in a flat with no water for a week and no water available elsewhere | 12:05 |
| Kilos | sjoe | 12:05 |
| bushtech | something not like hkgk | 12:05 |
| Kilos | what is that | 12:06 |
| bushtech | pm sent | 12:07 |
| Kilos | lol | 12:07 |
| bushtech | before inetpro jumps on me | 12:07 |
| Kilos | he is away | 12:07 |
| Kilos | ohi superfly | 12:08 |
| superfly | You're like a leopard waiting to pounce. | 12:10 |
| Kilos | just checking you are behaving | 12:10 |
| Kilos | hehe | 12:10 |
| Kilos | sound familiar | 12:11 |
| superfly | I'm always behaving. You're the one we have to watch. | 12:13 |
| Kilos | haha | 12:13 |
| Kilos | hmm... | 13:41 |
| Kilos | such a noisy channel | 13:42 |
| Kilos | skokkk gee ons n skok en se iets toe! | 13:42 |
| skokkk | ello | 13:43 |
| Kilos | lol | 13:43 |
| Kilos | how things there | 13:43 |
| skokkk | good & u? | 13:43 |
| Kilos | good tooty | 13:43 |
| Kilos | ai! | 13:57 |
| Kilos | storm killed desktop. switches on but no bios even | 13:57 |
| skokkk | ai | 14:05 |
| bushtech | oops | 14:14 |
| bushtech | eina | 14:14 |
| Kilos | yeah and my 64 bit one not the 32bit | 14:14 |
| * Kilos cries | 14:14 | |
| Kilos | and thats with a surge protector in power line | 14:15 |
| bushtech | I dont have much faith in surge protectors | 14:16 |
| Kilos | nor do i anymore | 14:16 |
| bushtech | still thinking about a double isolation transformer | 14:17 |
| Kilos | things are expensive though | 14:17 |
| bushtech | have you got power out of power suppply? | 14:17 |
| Kilos | yes | 14:18 |
| Kilos | well | 14:18 |
| bushtech | eish | 14:18 |
| Kilos | mouse light shows | 14:18 |
| bushtech | thats not good | 14:18 |
| Kilos | illinvestigate further | 14:18 |
| Kilos | motherboard sigh | 14:18 |
| bushtech | can you see what fried? | 14:19 |
| Kilos | nope will take it out into the sunlight tomorrow if the sun comes out | 14:20 |
| Kilos | drives spin up and cpu fan spins | 14:27 |
| Kilos | reseated ram no change | 14:27 |
| bushtech | have you got some other ram you can swop in? | 14:38 |
| Kilos | nope, only ddr3 i have | 14:38 |
| Kilos | my favourite pc as well | 14:38 |
| bushtech | bummer | 14:39 |
| Kilos | murphy boer hier | 14:40 |
| Kilos | wat kan breek sal breek | 14:40 |
| Kilos | hopefull its the motherboard and not the cpu | 14:40 |
| bushtech | http://www.brighthub.com/computing/hardware/articles/107615.aspx | 14:43 |
| Kilos | i have an asrock h61m-vs3 motherboard that had its pcie slot broken manually | 14:43 |
| bushtech | check bietjie | 14:43 |
| Kilos | i go see | 14:44 |
| Kilos | ty | 14:44 |
| Kilos | i have tried battery and power cable out for 30 mins. now will leave them out overnight | 14:49 |
| Kilos | if still no bios ill start building up this other motherboard and hope my cpu is still ok | 14:49 |
| Kilos | my own fault, should have switched off when storm was still starting | 14:57 |
| inetpro | wb chesedo | 15:11 |
| Kilos | hi inetpro | 15:11 |
| Kilos | haha die mense bang jou ne | 15:11 |
| inetpro | Kilos: ouch! | 15:13 |
| inetpro | Kilos: sorry about the PC | 15:14 |
| Kilos | ty sir | 15:14 |
| inetpro | mense bang, vir wat? | 15:14 |
| Kilos | om dinge te se wat bietjie vuil is | 15:14 |
| Kilos | haha | 15:14 |
| inetpro | uh | 15:15 |
| Kilos | hoe gaan dit boetie | 15:15 |
| inetpro | iemand iets gesê? | 15:15 |
| Kilos | genoeg reen gekry darem? | 15:15 |
| inetpro | hmm.... moet weer gaan kyk, vanoggend 25mm gehad plus gister se 13mm = 38mm | 15:16 |
| inetpro | koud, koud, koud... dit bang my | 15:17 |
| Kilos | dit gaan kwaai koud word nog ek dink | 15:17 |
| gremble | What is a manually broken PCI slot? | 15:28 |
| Kilos | where you plug the graphics card it the broke that whole plug off so bare connectors were shorting on each other | 15:29 |
| gremble | Oh alright | 15:30 |
| inetpro | uh, oh, he broke it? | 15:30 |
| Kilos | not me man | 15:31 |
| inetpro | so you got it for free? | 15:31 |
| Kilos | i cut all the pins off and will test with onboard grahics | 15:31 |
| Kilos | the mb yes | 15:32 |
| Kilos | was supposed to fix it for ian | 15:32 |
| Kilos | only serious gamers need graphics cards | 15:32 |
| inetpro | like mazal :-) | 15:33 |
| inetpro | where is he> | 15:33 |
| inetpro | ? | 15:33 |
| Kilos | lol | 15:33 |
| inetpro | btw, talking about graphics, who else is using kvm and other virtualisation here | 15:34 |
| Kilos | i gotta go eat | 15:35 |
| Kilos | wbb | 15:35 |
| inetpro | hmm.... that time already? | 15:35 |
| Kilos | lemme see | 15:35 |
| Kilos | i hear kitchen noises | 15:35 |
| Kilos | no not yet | 15:35 |
| Kilos | too early | 15:36 |
| Kilos | sigh | 15:36 |
| inetpro | kvm-spice is nice these days but still pretty horrible for low bandwidth limitiations | 15:38 |
| inetpro | in other words very nice that we're able run a desktop on a remote system out there but pretty tough on bandwidth | 15:41 |
| Kilos | sjoe | 15:42 |
| inetpro | I just thought, maybe someone has a good solution for me to tone down quality when working on a remote desktop' | 15:44 |
| Kilos | man pages | 15:47 |
| Kilos | hehe | 15:47 |
| Kilos | and google is YOUR friend | 15:47 |
| theblazehen | inetpro: What os in the guest? If linux, x2go works well | 15:47 |
| Kilos | hi theblazehen | 15:48 |
| theblazehen | Also, try vnc with tight compressions | 15:48 |
| Kilos | you getting cleverer by the day | 15:48 |
| theblazehen | hi Kilos | 15:48 |
| inetpro | theblazehen: kubuntu | 15:48 |
| theblazehen | Kilos: heh, I knew that stuff like 3 years ago :) | 15:48 |
| theblazehen | inetpro: That should work. Might need to turn compositing off though | 15:48 |
| inetpro | theblazehen: can it work over ssh? | 15:50 |
| theblazehen | inetpro: It's basically X forwarding over ssh with things to make it go faster | 16:00 |
| theblazehen | Works well with a 1 mbit connection, browsing etc | 16:01 |
| inetpro | I see... | 16:01 |
| * inetpro googling to find tips on how to use it | 16:01 | |
| inetpro | guess I would have to do something on the kvm backend, a pretty standard installation on Ubuntu server 16.04 | 16:03 |
| theblazehen | For general use I'd say just check vnc with TIGHT encoding | 16:11 |
| theblazehen | It's *okay* | 16:11 |
| inetpro | also thought that was perhaps what I should do | 16:13 |
| inetpro | hopefully one day it will all be much simpler with wayland or mir | 16:15 |
| Kilos | hi urbanslug | 16:36 |
| Kilos | you guys sleep weekends, are you sick | 16:36 |
| Kilos | inetpro do you want to ssh to servers to work on them | 16:37 |
| Kilos | what have you used until now | 16:37 |
| inetpro | Kilos: fortunately I use ssh +90% of the time | 16:38 |
| Kilos | so whats with the new search | 16:38 |
| Kilos | im just trying to understand what you are planning to do | 16:39 |
| Kilos | ssh to a server shouldnt use much should it | 16:39 |
| inetpro | was just playing with running full remote desktop recently, quite nice to see that things have improved since I played with it a few years ago | 16:39 |
| Kilos | text only | 16:40 |
| Kilos | aha | 16:40 |
| inetpro | sadly, it seems we still have a way to go | 16:40 |
| Kilos | what about remmina | 16:41 |
| Kilos | i thinks thats what i tried | 16:41 |
| inetpro | the RDP protocol used for windows still seems to more efficient | 16:41 |
| Kilos | with remmina i had full control of a windows pc | 16:42 |
| Kilos | like having the windows pc on one workspace | 16:42 |
| magespawn | inetpro: VNC? | 16:43 |
| inetpro | Kilos: you don't need remmina for that | 16:43 |
| Kilos | oh what else then inetpro | 16:43 |
| Kilos | ian will be interested | 16:43 |
| inetpro | the standard krdc uses xfreerdp in the backend for connecting to windows | 16:43 |
| Kilos | Maaz tell wolfeyes the standard krdc uses xfreerdp in the backend for connecting to windows | 16:44 |
| Maaz | Kilos: Righto, I'll tell Wolfeyes on freenode | 16:44 |
| Kilos | he is forever teamviewing them | 16:44 |
| inetpro | Kilos: press Alt+F2, type krdc and press ENTER | 16:44 |
| magespawn | as far as i know rdp is not that secure | 16:45 |
| inetpro | oh, obviously you tunnel through ssh with that... but I'll leave that as an exercise for yourself to research | 16:45 |
| Kilos | it dont work | 16:46 |
| magespawn | ah okay right | 16:46 |
| magespawn | inetpro to a ssh server on the windows machine? | 16:46 |
| Kilos | i have turned off lots of that little windows stuff | 16:46 |
| Kilos | was typing here supposedly or to debs and that thing opened | 16:46 |
| Kilos | drove me nuts | 16:47 |
| inetpro | oops... krdc: Automatically installed: no | 16:49 |
| Kilos | ok ill install it | 16:49 |
| Kilos | ai! | 16:50 |
| Kilos | krdc is already the newest version. | 16:50 |
| Kilos | opens fine with the launcher | 16:50 |
| theblazehen | inetpro: Wayland has no standard for remote display | 16:52 |
| theblazehen | From what I can tell, that will be integrated into weston | 16:53 |
| inetpro | Kilos: now all you need is to set it to connect to RDP and set the addresst to: DOMAIN\Username@WindowsHostName | 16:53 |
| Kilos | ian is slowly going linux , kde on stick and on desktop and ubuntu server | 16:53 |
| inetpro | theblazehen: interesting | 16:53 |
| theblazehen | An "example" wm/display server or whatever, so kwin would have their own, gnome their own, any other one their own.. No standard :( | 16:53 |
| Kilos | Maaz tell wolfeyes now all you need is to set it to connect to RDP and set the addresst to: DOMAIN\Username@WindowsHostName | 16:54 |
| Maaz | Kilos: Righto, I'll tell Wolfeyes on freenode | 16:54 |
| theblazehen | No "standard" way for that | 16:54 |
| inetpro | Kilos: obviosly with the windows machine on the local network | 16:54 |
| Kilos | oh no | 16:54 |
| theblazehen | Things like multi gpu will also be implemented in the wm or whatever rquivelant is, not in wayland itself :( | 16:54 |
| Kilos | he works all over the transvaal | 16:54 |
| theblazehen | I personally don't like wayland | 16:55 |
| theblazehen | For me, as much as I don't like all of it, X is still better | 16:55 |
| inetpro | theblazehen: fact is, we're still stuck with X11 and many inefficiencies | 16:55 |
| Kilos | he just needs linux software for all that scanner stuff then by by win | 16:55 |
| theblazehen | You can have things like xmodmap, screenshots, multi gpu (admittedly, "not really but with hacks"), different wm etc | 16:56 |
| theblazehen | I think the way that the split is done with wayland leaves too much for the wm | 16:56 |
| inetpro | yeah, what we really need is one simple internationally accepted standard | 16:58 |
| inetpro | much easier said than done though | 16:59 |
| theblazehen | Yeah. Unfortunately not everyone will agree on what's needed | 17:06 |
| inetpro | not something that one or two individuals can take charge of and fix | 17:09 |
| theblazehen | Exactly | 17:11 |
| theblazehen | But we'll wait forever for a good solution, so we'll probably have someone do something "good enough" first | 17:11 |
| theblazehen | aka wayland | 17:11 |
| * theblazehen will be sticking with X, thank you very much | 17:12 | |
| inetpro | will be interesting to see whether canonical can actually influence it all with their efforts | 17:13 |
| inetpro | wb chesedo-,... again | 17:14 |
| Kilos | lol | 17:26 |
| Kilos | hi fusionsparc | 18:00 |
| theblazehen | So someone asked for a pic of my desktop when I'm getting work done: http://theblazehen.com/scrot_2016.png | 18:12 |
| theblazehen | maaz tell andrewlsd you asked for pic of desktop right? http://theblazehen.com/scrot_2016.png | 18:13 |
| Maaz | theblazehen: Righto, I'll tell andrewlsd on freenode | 18:13 |
| gremble | That is a colossal screen theblazehen haha | 18:19 |
| theblazehen | gremble: http://imgur.com/gallery/9qITRRc | 18:20 |
| gremble | theblazehen, Those are much nicer screens than what you had the last time I saw your setup :P | 18:22 |
| theblazehen | gremble: Haha yeah :) Benefits of working almost all the time.. | 18:23 |
| gremble | I have to work on a pos company computer because I don't have a laptop haha | 18:28 |
| theblazehen | Ouch | 18:28 |
| magespawn | theblazehen: nice | 19:09 |
| magespawn | are those on one machine or many? | 19:09 |
| Kilos | night all.sleeptight | 19:10 |
| magespawn | Kilos: good night | 19:10 |
| theblazehen | magespawn: 1 machine | 19:14 |
| magespawn | multiple graphics cards? | 19:14 |
| theblazehen | magespawn: Nope, 1 GTX 980 | 19:16 |
| magespawn | ahh very nice and other hardware? | 19:17 |
| theblazehen | 20 GB ram, 4TB SSHD, 1x GTX 970 in this one | 19:20 |
| theblazehen | then router is 2 GB ram, 2.2 GHz dual core, 64 GB ssd | 19:21 |
| theblazehen | And VM host was 20TB storage (15 usable), 32 GB ram | 19:21 |
| theblazehen | Brother now has my other gtx 970 | 19:21 |
| gremble | That is quite the rig O.o | 19:26 |
| magespawn | very nice | 19:32 |
| magespawn | so all the screens are one desktop then? | 19:33 |
| bushtech | theblazehen: what OS? | 19:36 |
| magespawn | arch linux on the one picture | 19:36 |
| fusionsparc | What desktop env. you running theblazehen? | 19:37 |
| theblazehen | bushtech: Arch Linux on desktop, had Ubuntu server on vm host, pfSense on router | 19:45 |
| theblazehen | fusionsparc: Just AwesomeWM, only wm that does multi monitor workspaces the way I need :/ I'd like to use herbestlufwm or i3 though | 19:45 |
| bushtech | theblazehen: Sheesh makes my head spin | 19:46 |
| fusionsparc | Nice, that desktop is quite bussy yhough.. :P | 19:46 |
| theblazehen | fusionsparc: This isn't even bad.. | 19:46 |
| theblazehen | Had skype, 3x mysql cli's, 4 php files, terminal for git commands, php docs, live website all open at the same time before. Live site in multiple browsers even | 19:47 |
| fusionsparc | hehe...I guess if you customised the DE to suite your workflow, you can be quite productive.. | 19:50 |
| theblazehen | fusionsparc: I just wish I could have dynamic tiling though, not just predefined layouts | 19:51 |
| gremble | bspwm never played nice? | 19:56 |
| theblazehen | gremble: too much time to do the config, and can't do my way of tiling anyway | 19:57 |
| fusionsparc | indeed.. ;-P | 19:57 |
| gremble | You need a degree to config bspwm, yes. | 19:58 |
| theblazehen | And with awesomewm the keybinds are all natural now.. herbestlufwm is closest to what I want in terms of managing the tiling, but can't do workspaces right | 19:58 |
| gremble | Anyway, I am off. Long day tomorrow | 19:58 |
| fusionsparc | Same here, enjoy guys.. | 19:59 |
| theblazehen | cheers fusionsparc | 20:00 |
| bushtech | theblazehen: and there's me having a giggle at myself with my kvm switch to jump between my 2 servers | 20:04 |
| theblazehen | bushtech: I need an ipkvm.. Hard to plug in keyboard / display to router and vm host | 20:05 |
| bushtech | definitely not easy | 20:06 |
| bushtech | unless your router is a computer | 20:07 |
| theblazehen | bushtech: Yeah, it is :) old desktop | 20:08 |
| bushtech | hmmm, didn't know you get ip kvm's | 20:10 |
| bushtech | Ouch1 Very expensive! | 20:13 |
| theblazehen | bushtech: Yeah.. | 20:14 |
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