[00:00] <bob123456> jesus my grammar sucks that late at night^^
[00:00] <Artemis3> but older games or games with simpler graphics or if you can lower graphic options... thinking tf2 should run fine for example
[00:01] <bob123456> jea tf2 should run rather nicely
[00:01] <bob123456> my next project is getting steam (and my windows games) running with wine
[00:02] <bob123456> interestingly the website https://packages.ubuntu.com you linked a while ago is terribly slow
[00:02] <bob123456> at least for me
[00:02] <Artemis3> for win only games you need to install steam for windows etc
[00:02] <Artemis3> its more complicated
[00:03] <bob123456> jea i looked it up before
[00:03] <bob123456> im just reducing the windows in our household :D
[00:03] <Artemis3> yes i can't open it atm, must be some problem
[00:03] <Artemis3> for each game you go to appdb wine page and check if its working or not
[00:04] <Artemis3> sometimes they work with some tweaks
[00:04] <Artemis3> or try playonlinux
[00:04] <Artemis3> which is a frontend of the same
[00:04] <bob123456> the only windows i cant get rid of is the one for updating the damn satnav
[00:04] <bob123456> yes, i tried it once for testing with world of tanks
[00:04] <Artemis3> there are ways too, with virtual machine and direct port access
[00:05] <Artemis3> install regular windows in virtual machine, give access to usb port, etc.
[00:05] <Artemis3> then you use it only for that purpose
[00:06] <Artemis3> there is vbox, vmware, qemu.. plenty of choices :)
[00:06] <bob123456> indeed, however most of our hardware is rather old and is lacking most virtualization support like vtx vtd and so on
[00:07] <Artemis3> thats not really important for such usage
[00:08] <bob123456> are you sure?
[00:09] <Artemis3> yes i play a lot with qemu :)
[00:09] <Artemis3> but most people find vbox easier to use
[00:09] <bob123456> i tried it once with a usb stick for testing purposes and it didnt work out to well
[00:09] <Artemis3> if you don't use it very often i guess you could still dual boot
[00:09] <bob123456> thats my current solution
[00:09] <bob123456> however
[00:10] <bob123456> it sucks security wise
[00:10] <Artemis3> indeed
[00:10] <bob123456> since windows has read/write access
[00:11] <bob123456> well not to my linux partitions (no ext-drivers ftw) but unfortunately the bootloader remains accessible
[00:14] <bob123456> well then thanks a lot artemis3, mrkramps and all the ones i might have forgotten :)
[00:14] <Artemis3> yw
[00:14] <mrkramps> you're welcome
[00:15] <bob123456> i think im gonna reinstall tomorrow or rather this morning :D to check those updates again
[00:15] <bob123456> im hooked now :D
[00:16] <bob123456> it was just so strange, that the software updater didnt show them
[00:16] <bob123456> lets see whether this can be reproduced :D
[00:17] <bob123456> have a nice day or good night (whatever timezone you are in)
[09:18] <xubuntu99d> Hi
[09:20] <xubuntu99d> I would like download Xubuntu 15.04
[09:20] <xubuntu99d> anyboby can help me?
[09:25] <flocculant> xubuntu99d: 15.04 is end of life and unsupported
[09:28] <xubuntu99d> really?
[09:29] <xubuntu99d> I had read That 15.04 was five years of support
[09:30] <flocculant> xubuntu99d: we support LTS for 3 years, currently 14.04 and 16.04, other releases - get 9 months
[09:30] <flocculant> do you mean 16.04 - the newest one?
[09:31] <xubuntu99d> 16.04 have some bug for me, something don't work correctly
[09:32] <xubuntu99d> I had distro upgrade from 14.04 to 16.04
[09:32] <xubuntu99d> but I have some prolems now
[09:32] <xubuntu99d> I want to back to 14.04 :)
[09:34] <flocculant> http://cdimages.ubuntu.com/xubuntu/releases/trusty/release/
[09:35] <xubuntu99d> Thank you so much
[09:35] <flocculant> welcome
[13:05] <bob123456_> hello, i tried to replicate something i stumbled over yesterday and i was sucessfull
[13:05] <bob123456_> the thing i stumbled across is the fact, that the softwarecenter and synaptic are offering package updates, that are not available by using the software updater app that comes prepacked in xubuntu
[14:11] <akis> hi all. i am running 14.04. my kernel is http://paste.ubuntu.com/16438715/ . I choosed kernel not to be updated, because i have a RTL8188EE Wireless Network Adapter (rev 01) and i faced some issues with newer kernels. Today I tried 16.04 live cd and i saw that the new kernel is very stable for this adapter. Is there any way to upgrade to this kernel using 14.04?
[15:24] <carrotcorn> Hi there! I'm running Ubuntu 15.10 with the Xfce desktop environment installed. Unlike with unity, I do not understand how workspaces (virtual desktops?) work in Xfce... How do I create new workspaces? I tried the workspaces option within the settings manager which didn't help at all. Upon increasing the number of workspaces under 'layout', nothing happens
[15:26] <carrotcorn> Nvm. Used Compiz
[15:26] <carrotcorn> Compiz FTW!!!
[15:27] <cm2> does anyone know what's the status for a fix on the disappearing mouse cursor after suspend/lock on 16.04?
[15:28] <cm2> i ask because i am experiencing a lot of graphical glitches on intel graphics ... gpu hangs, things dont render anymore etc. suspect i915.
[15:28] <cm2> also it takes like 10 seconds to suspend (again probl i915) vs 1 sec or less on 15.10
[15:29] <cm2> oh sna vs xna makes no difference on any symptom
[16:16] <bob123456_> anyone there? :)
[17:58] <eegore> Just did a fresh install if 16 lts, any quirks I should know of?
[17:59] <krytarik> eegore: Yes, please read the release notes.
[18:00] <eegore> I notice the stock install tends to leave out a lot of the deps for third party software
[18:01] <krytarik> Well, dependencies are just that.
[18:02] <eegore> one of the reasons I option for th xfce interfade rather than the kde is it is easier on the battery
[18:08] <eegore> I see multip desktops is not there
[18:10] <krytarik> Not enabled by default, no.
[18:11] <eegore> trying to find it
[18:12] <krytarik> Just add the Workspace Switcher to your panel, and go from there.
[18:12] <eegore> also setting it so the touchpad is ignored when a mouse is used
[18:17] <eegore> I do not see that option
[18:18] <krytarik> For the latter one?  Yeah, doesn't seem to be an option by default.
[18:19] <krytarik> There a various hits on a web search though.
[18:20] <eegore> I am trying to do it without a script that would cause an instability of intalling the KDE version
[18:22] <krytarik> Well, generally the deeper it anchors, the more it is likely to be common.
[18:23] <eegore> doing it with a bash script and python sounds a little dicey
[18:24] <drc> Removable Drives>Input Devices>Mice>Command = synclient TouchPadOff=1 woks for me.
[18:25] <drc> s/woks/works
[18:32] <eegore> where is that located
[18:35] <krytarik> eegore: That's a GUI path.
[19:47] <xubuntu55w> Hello
[19:47] <xubuntu55w> somebody can help me install usb wifi on xubuntu
[19:48] <xubuntu55w> Realtek Semiconductor Corp. RTL8188EUS 802.11n Wireless Network Adapter
[19:49] <xubuntu55w> This is TP -LINK model: TL-WN725N
[19:49] <xubuntu55w>  Xubuntu 16.04 LTS
[22:49] <Majora320> Hello, world!
[22:50] <jannemann> jo
[22:50] <Majora320> I'm currently using Ubuntu and considering switching to Xubuntu, because I like the xcfe de better. Are there any major differences between Ubuntu & Xubuntu? (Besides the de & the default apps)
[22:53] <bazhang> its the same underall
[22:53] <Majora320> underall?
[22:53] <bazhang> it is the same under the DE etc
[22:54] <bazhang> clear?
[22:54] <Majora320> yeah
[23:06] <bekks> Majora320: All you need to do is: sudo apt install xubuntu-desktop
[23:09] <Majora320> bekks: ik but im switching computers soon from 32 to 64 bits so i thought id install xubuntu
[23:09] <Majora320> 64 bit
[23:31] <xubuntu170> hi
[23:31] <Windowpainz> hi everyone
[23:32] <Windowpainz> anyone here?
[23:32] <Ghostbexar> Howdy
[23:32] <Windowpainz> hi gostbexar
[23:32] <Windowpainz> is using an old release how do i get it to update to
[23:33] <Windowpainz> new
[23:33] <bazhang> which release
[23:33] <Windowpainz> the new 16.04
[23:33] <bazhang> the old release
[23:33] <Windowpainz> just installe voyager linux
[23:34] <Windowpainz> 13something
[23:34] <bazhang> thats not supported
[23:34] <Windowpainz> of course
[23:34] <knome> neither is any 13.x -> upgrade path
[23:34] <Windowpainz> dang
[23:34] <bazhang> so get a fresh 16.04
[23:34] <Windowpainz> used lili on a windows machine to make it
[23:35] <Windowpainz> went smooth but the download of voyager is old version
[23:35] <Windowpainz> but hey i am up and running linux and loving it
[23:36] <Windowpainz> old laptop had xp
[23:36] <Windowpainz> no vista
[23:36] <Majora320> what exactly should I do after 'sudo apt-get install xubuntu-desktop'? uninstall some gnome/unity default apps?
[23:36] <bazhang> Majora320, select xubuntu in the login
[23:36] <Majora320> ah
[23:37] <Majora320> so it gives you a choice
[23:37] <Majora320> cool!
[23:37] <bazhang> Windowpainz, no need to mention voyager, fresh install 16.04
[23:52] <Majora320> I install xubuntu-desktop & rebooted, but my desktop just looks like unity w/ different colors
[23:52] <Majora320> and icons
[23:53] <Majora320> when I go to window manager settings in xfce settings manager, log output says 'These settings cannot work with your current window manager (Compiz)'
[23:59] <Majora320> oh nvm
[23:59] <Majora320> relogged and saw u do it in login screen