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rebecca_ | hi | 03:51 |
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frash | Hello | 09:26 |
frash | I have trouble launching lubuntu's live distro from USB | 09:26 |
frash | I tried using unetbootin and the tool provided with linux mint to make bootable drives | 09:27 |
frash | I've even tried switching usb drives to no avail | 09:28 |
frash | it always gets stuck with a blinking underscore | 09:28 |
frash | after I select "Try lubuntu without installing" | 09:28 |
frash | now, I'm pretty sure that the atom processor on my netbook is of the 64bit kind | 09:29 |
frash | http://ark.intel.com/products/49491/Intel-Atom-processor-N455-512K-Cache-1_66-GHz | 09:29 |
hateball | frash: does any other distro boot? so you can check that the cpu actually is 64bit | 10:08 |
frash | yes, I did uname -a | 10:10 |
frash | and I got something like | 10:10 |
frash | Linux MachineName 3.16.0-37-generic #51-Ubuntu SMP Tue May 5 13:45:59 UTC 2015 x86_64 x86_64 x86_64 GNU/Linux | 10:11 |
frash | Currently I have an old version of lubuntu installed | 10:13 |
frash | and I'd love to upgrade to a newer one through a fresh install (the current one is pretty bugged and obsolete) | 10:13 |
hateball | frash: what model is the netbook? | 10:14 |
hateball | for googling purposes | 10:14 |
hateball | could be kernel regressions and such | 10:14 |
frash | eMachines 355-131G25IKK | 10:17 |
frash | So, what shall I do? | 10:32 |
hateball | frash: I don't really know, you could try asking in #ubuntu as well I guess, more eyes there | 11:15 |
frash | I will :) | 11:30 |
frash | I will also try making the live usb from windows :) | 11:31 |
frash | Bye bye and thanks again! | 11:31 |
ilovejesus | hello there what is the difference between teh file descriptions: | 14:34 |
ilovejesus | "Linux ARM 32 Hard Float ABI" and "Linux x86" | 14:34 |
wxl | ilovejesus: one's for an arm processor, one's for an x86 (heretofor known as i386) | 14:37 |
n-iCe | hi | 16:05 |
BrAsS_mOnKeY | Do i need to verify download from lubuntu.net? | 16:10 |
BrAsS_mOnKeY | key signatures, etc | 16:11 |
BrAsS_mOnKeY | check iso | 16:11 |
n-iCe | BrAsS_mOnKeY: if you want | 16:11 |
n-iCe | I never do it. | 16:11 |
BrAsS_mOnKeY | I just didnt see the info on the site. | 16:12 |
n-iCe | BrAsS_mOnKeY: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Lubuntu/GetLubuntu | 16:14 |
n-iCe | I see it | 16:14 |
n-iCe | Checklist, step 3 | 16:14 |
BrAsS_mOnKeY | ok, thanks ;) | 16:16 |
n-iCe | no problem | 16:19 |
n-iCe | have you ever used lunutu before? | 16:19 |
BrAsS_mOnKeY | no | 16:23 |
n-iCe | what did you use | 16:25 |
BrAsS_mOnKeY | ubuntu | 16:29 |
BrAsS_mOnKeY | but havent used much. Running on a vm. W indows 10 host. | 16:29 |
BrAsS_mOnKeY | Windows* | 16:29 |
BrAsS_mOnKeY | brb | 16:29 |
n-iCe | I see | 16:30 |
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wxl | BrAsS_mOnKeY: btw don't listen to n-iCe. it'll save you time if you do it, at least at some point. | 16:52 |
n-iCe | wxl: what did I say wrong? :o | 16:53 |
wxl | n-iCe: that you do not check signatures/hashes, etc. | 16:54 |
wxl | i agree you don't HAVE to do it, but you should. | 16:54 |
n-iCe | But that's not wrong. | 16:55 |
n-iCe | I just don't do it, did not lie. | 16:55 |
n-iCe | Did not tell him to not do it. | 16:55 |
wxl | i didn't say it was. i just told him not to listen to you XD | 16:55 |
BrAsS_mOnKeY | :D | 17:02 |
BrAsS_mOnKeY | <- noob :) | 17:02 |
wxl | BrAsS_mOnKeY: no question is a bad question. feel free to ask :) | 17:02 |
wxl | noobs are welcome here :) | 17:03 |
BrAsS_mOnKeY | heh ty :) | 17:04 |
BrAsS_mOnKeY | hmmm | 17:09 |
BrAsS_mOnKeY | i think my hashes are different but i think its my error :) | 17:10 |
BrAsS_mOnKeY | they are probably correct. | 17:10 |
wxl | BrAsS_mOnKeY: this is on the iso itself? | 17:10 |
BrAsS_mOnKeY | yes | 17:10 |
wxl | BrAsS_mOnKeY: then it could be (and likely is) a download error | 17:10 |
wxl | i'd suggest using zsync, as it has its own built in error checking | 17:11 |
wxl | or torrent | 17:11 |
BrAsS_mOnKeY | ok. | 17:12 |
BrAsS_mOnKeY | it was my error.. I was comparing the sha1 instead of md5 :) | 17:12 |
wxl | well sha's should be listed to | 17:12 |
BrAsS_mOnKeY | it is | 17:14 |
BrAsS_mOnKeY | I was testing the md5 on the sha1 hash | 17:15 |
BrAsS_mOnKeY | so it was different :D | 17:15 |
wxl | heheheh | 17:15 |
wxl | at least you realized your mistake :) | 17:16 |
BrAsS_mOnKeY | what lead me to linux was wantig to monitor wifi traffic on network. I havent figured out how to do it and I dont think it will. (i'm using linux vm, Windows 10 host) | 17:18 |
BrAsS_mOnKeY | led* | 17:18 |
wxl | hm | 17:18 |
wxl | that might be somewhat difficult using a virtual nic | 17:19 |
wxl | but isn't wireshark available for windows? | 17:19 |
BrAsS_mOnKeY | yeah | 17:19 |
BrAsS_mOnKeY | it is | 17:19 |
wxl | that'll do the trick then | 17:19 |
BrAsS_mOnKeY | but i dont think its possible to capture wifi from windows. | 17:19 |
wxl | but you know linux is better, right? :) | 17:19 |
BrAsS_mOnKeY | yeah, I'm starting to realize :D | 17:19 |
wxl | well i'm sure windows has the capacity. i'm not sure how easy it is to utilize it, but i can't imagine it's that hard | 17:20 |
BrAsS_mOnKeY | it shows its there but doesnt show the data | 17:20 |
wxl | well, i'd, of course, point you at them | 17:21 |
BrAsS_mOnKeY | lol | 17:21 |
wxl | there's no use developing the software for windows if it can't work | 17:21 |
BrAsS_mOnKeY | it catputures ethernet and stuff no problem | 17:21 |
BrAsS_mOnKeY | captures* | 17:22 |
wxl | but an alternative would be booting to the linux iso rather than using a vm | 17:22 |
BrAsS_mOnKeY | yeah | 17:22 |
BrAsS_mOnKeY | i havent tried that | 17:22 |
wxl | then there's no virtual nic | 17:22 |
wxl | i mean you can likely work around that but virtual networking can be a tricky topic | 17:23 |
BrAsS_mOnKeY | problem is, i'm on a shared computure so I cant switch os quickly. If I could, it'd be no problem. | 17:23 |
BrAsS_mOnKeY | s/computure/computer | 17:23 |
wxl | wireshark DOES have an IRC channel then https://wiki.wireshark.org/IRC | 17:23 |
wxl | um oh wait | 17:23 |
BrAsS_mOnKeY | yeah i've been :) | 17:23 |
wxl | that's the wrong page hahahah | 17:23 |
BrAsS_mOnKeY | #wireshark | 17:24 |
wxl | and they couldn't get the windows working? | 17:24 |
BrAsS_mOnKeY | at that point, i was asking about the vm. | 17:24 |
BrAsS_mOnKeY | because I was under the impression thatit couldnt work with windows. | 17:24 |
wxl | under the impression because someone with experience said so? | 17:24 |
BrAsS_mOnKeY | because when I tried it, it wasnt working and when I researched it, i read that windows cripples the ability but there is probably a workaround. | 17:25 |
wxl | yeah, that's likely. but there's always a way around :) | 17:25 |
BrAsS_mOnKeY | :) | 17:26 |
BrAsS_mOnKeY | but i'm glad that ive experimented with Linux. | 17:26 |
BrAsS_mOnKeY | thinking about adding arch and mint to my vbox | 17:31 |
BrAsS_mOnKeY | to get an idea of these different Linux OSs. | 17:31 |
wxl | BrAsS_mOnKeY: yeah that seems to be the course that most users take with linux. try every version out there! | 17:34 |
BrAsS_mOnKeY | one thing i'm worried about are licensing. | 17:35 |
BrAsS_mOnKeY | is* | 17:35 |
wxl | BrAsS_mOnKeY: personally, i'd say just start with someone and stick with it for a while. linux distros are a lot like colors: everyone has their opinions about them but there's no clear winner. | 17:35 |
wxl | worried about licensing with linux? | 17:35 |
BrAsS_mOnKeY | differnt distros | 17:35 |
BrAsS_mOnKeY | using a server, etc | 17:35 |
BrAsS_mOnKeY | for commercial for example. | 17:36 |
BrAsS_mOnKeY | i think some distros charge a lot. | 17:37 |
wxl | rarely is there software in the open source world that does nto allow commercial use | 17:37 |
wxl | in fact, i don't think there are any | 17:37 |
wxl | they may, however, ask for a fee when commercial use is involved | 17:37 |
wxl | but honestly that's extremely rare | 17:37 |
BrAsS_mOnKeY | ok :) | 17:39 |
wxl | and it's almost always the case that you can just build from source or use the "community" version (thus foregoing commercial support though you still have community support) | 17:40 |
wxl | openvpn is a good example of that, as is magento | 17:40 |
wxl | regardless, it will ALWAYS cost more money to run a non-linux server | 17:41 |
BrAsS_mOnKeY | i was wondering how the distros makers find out in the first place.. | 17:41 |
BrAsS_mOnKeY | lol | 17:41 |
wxl | it's unlikely the distros are going to try to legislate that stuff | 17:42 |
wxl | so ultimately it will be the upstream authors of the software | 17:42 |
wxl | and how they might find out? not sure. not sure they do XD | 17:43 |
BrAsS_mOnKeY | oh ok. | 17:43 |
wxl | if you try to google the subject, you usually find issues with violating the freedom aspects of open source rather than ensuring the money is paid :) | 17:44 |
BrAsS_mOnKeY | lol | 17:44 |
wxl | in that sense, it's more of a copyright issue | 17:45 |
wxl | e.g. https://www.quora.com/What-was-the-biggest-open-source-license-violation-case | 17:46 |
BrAsS_mOnKeY | ps2 | 18:05 |
BrAsS_mOnKeY | i have a ps4.. been playing COD: Black Ops III. | 19:10 |
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