[03:51] <rebecca_> hi
[09:26] <frash> Hello
[09:26] <frash> I have trouble launching lubuntu's live distro from USB
[09:27] <frash> I tried using unetbootin and the tool provided with linux mint to make bootable drives
[09:28] <frash> I've even tried switching usb drives to no avail
[09:28] <frash> it always gets stuck with a blinking underscore
[09:28] <frash> after I select "Try lubuntu without installing"
[09:29] <frash> now, I'm pretty sure that the atom processor on my netbook is of the 64bit kind
[09:29] <frash> http://ark.intel.com/products/49491/Intel-Atom-processor-N455-512K-Cache-1_66-GHz
[10:08] <hateball> frash: does any other distro boot? so you can check that the cpu actually is 64bit
[10:10] <frash> yes, I did uname -a
[10:10] <frash> and I got something like
[10:11] <frash> Linux MachineName 3.16.0-37-generic #51-Ubuntu SMP Tue May 5 13:45:59 UTC 2015 x86_64 x86_64 x86_64 GNU/Linux
[10:13] <frash> Currently I have an old version of lubuntu installed
[10:13] <frash> and I'd love to upgrade to a newer one through a fresh install (the current one is pretty bugged and obsolete)
[10:14] <hateball> frash: what model is the netbook?
[10:14] <hateball> for googling purposes
[10:14] <hateball> could be kernel regressions and such
[10:17] <frash> eMachines 355-131G25IKK
[10:32] <frash> So, what shall I do?
[11:15] <hateball> frash: I don't really know, you could try asking in #ubuntu as well I guess, more eyes there
[11:30] <frash> I will :)
[11:31] <frash> I will also try making the live usb from windows :)
[11:31] <frash> Bye bye and thanks again!
[14:34] <ilovejesus> hello there what is the difference between teh file descriptions:
[14:34] <ilovejesus> "Linux ARM 32 Hard Float ABI" and "Linux x86"
[14:37] <wxl> ilovejesus: one's for an arm processor, one's for an x86 (heretofor known as i386)
[16:05] <n-iCe> hi
[16:10] <BrAsS_mOnKeY> Do i need to verify download from lubuntu.net?
[16:11] <BrAsS_mOnKeY> key signatures, etc
[16:11] <BrAsS_mOnKeY> check iso
[16:11] <n-iCe> BrAsS_mOnKeY: if you want
[16:11] <n-iCe> I never do it.
[16:12] <BrAsS_mOnKeY> I just didnt see the info on the site.
[16:14] <n-iCe> BrAsS_mOnKeY: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Lubuntu/GetLubuntu
[16:14] <n-iCe> I see it
[16:14] <n-iCe> Checklist, step 3
[16:16] <BrAsS_mOnKeY> ok, thanks ;)
[16:19] <n-iCe> no problem
[16:19] <n-iCe> have you ever used lunutu before?
[16:23] <BrAsS_mOnKeY> no
[16:25] <n-iCe> what did you use
[16:29] <BrAsS_mOnKeY> ubuntu
[16:29] <BrAsS_mOnKeY> but havent used much.  Running on a vm. W indows 10 host.
[16:29] <BrAsS_mOnKeY> Windows*
[16:29] <BrAsS_mOnKeY> brb
[16:30] <n-iCe> I see
[16:52] <wxl> BrAsS_mOnKeY: btw don't listen to n-iCe. it'll save you time if you do it, at least at some point.
[16:53] <n-iCe> wxl: what did I say wrong? :o
[16:54] <wxl> n-iCe: that you do not check signatures/hashes, etc.
[16:54] <wxl> i agree you don't HAVE to do it, but you should.
[16:55] <n-iCe> But that's not wrong.
[16:55] <n-iCe> I just don't do it, did not lie.
[16:55] <n-iCe> Did not tell him to not do it.
[16:55] <wxl> i didn't say it was. i just told him not to listen to you XD
[17:02] <BrAsS_mOnKeY> :D
[17:02] <BrAsS_mOnKeY> <- noob :)
[17:02] <wxl> BrAsS_mOnKeY: no question is a bad question. feel free to ask :)
[17:03] <wxl> noobs are welcome here :)
[17:04] <BrAsS_mOnKeY> heh ty :)
[17:09] <BrAsS_mOnKeY> hmmm
[17:10] <BrAsS_mOnKeY> i think my hashes are different but i think its my error :)
[17:10] <BrAsS_mOnKeY> they are probably correct.
[17:10] <wxl> BrAsS_mOnKeY: this is on the iso itself?
[17:10] <BrAsS_mOnKeY> yes
[17:10] <wxl> BrAsS_mOnKeY: then it could be (and likely is) a download error
[17:11] <wxl> i'd suggest using zsync, as it has its own built in error checking
[17:11] <wxl> or torrent
[17:12] <BrAsS_mOnKeY> ok.
[17:12] <BrAsS_mOnKeY> it was my error.. I was comparing the sha1 instead of md5 :)
[17:12] <wxl> well sha's should be listed to
[17:14] <BrAsS_mOnKeY> it is
[17:15] <BrAsS_mOnKeY> I was testing the md5 on the sha1 hash
[17:15] <BrAsS_mOnKeY> so it was different :D
[17:15] <wxl> heheheh
[17:16] <wxl> at least you realized your mistake :)
[17:18] <BrAsS_mOnKeY> what lead me to linux was wantig to monitor wifi traffic on network.  I havent figured out how to do it and I dont think it will.  (i'm using linux vm, Windows 10 host)
[17:18] <BrAsS_mOnKeY> led*
[17:18] <wxl> hm
[17:19] <wxl> that might be somewhat difficult using a virtual nic
[17:19] <wxl> but isn't wireshark available for windows?
[17:19] <BrAsS_mOnKeY> yeah
[17:19] <BrAsS_mOnKeY> it is
[17:19] <wxl> that'll do the trick then
[17:19] <BrAsS_mOnKeY> but i dont think its possible to capture wifi from windows.
[17:19] <wxl> but you know linux is better, right? :)
[17:19] <BrAsS_mOnKeY> yeah, I'm starting to realize :D
[17:20] <wxl> well i'm sure windows has the capacity. i'm not sure how easy it is to utilize it, but i can't imagine it's that hard
[17:20] <BrAsS_mOnKeY> it shows its there but doesnt show the data
[17:21] <wxl> well, i'd, of course, point you at them
[17:21] <BrAsS_mOnKeY> lol
[17:21] <wxl> there's no use developing the software for windows if it can't work
[17:21] <BrAsS_mOnKeY> it catputures ethernet and stuff no problem
[17:22] <BrAsS_mOnKeY> captures*
[17:22] <wxl> but an alternative would be booting to the linux iso rather than using a vm
[17:22] <BrAsS_mOnKeY> yeah
[17:22] <BrAsS_mOnKeY> i havent tried that
[17:22] <wxl> then there's no virtual nic
[17:23] <wxl> i mean you can likely work around that but virtual networking can be a tricky topic
[17:23] <BrAsS_mOnKeY> problem is, i'm on a shared computure so I cant switch os quickly.  If I could, it'd be no problem.
[17:23] <BrAsS_mOnKeY> s/computure/computer
[17:23] <wxl> wireshark DOES have an IRC channel then https://wiki.wireshark.org/IRC
[17:23] <wxl> um oh wait
[17:23] <BrAsS_mOnKeY> yeah i've been :)
[17:23] <wxl> that's the wrong page hahahah
[17:24] <BrAsS_mOnKeY> #wireshark
[17:24] <wxl> and they couldn't get the windows working?
[17:24] <BrAsS_mOnKeY> at that point, i was asking about the vm.
[17:24] <BrAsS_mOnKeY> because I was under the impression thatit couldnt work with windows.
[17:24] <wxl> under the impression because someone with experience said so?
[17:25] <BrAsS_mOnKeY> because when I tried it, it wasnt working and when I researched it, i read that windows cripples the ability but there is probably a workaround.
[17:25] <wxl> yeah, that's likely. but there's always a way around :)
[17:26] <BrAsS_mOnKeY> :)
[17:26] <BrAsS_mOnKeY> but i'm glad that ive experimented with Linux.
[17:31] <BrAsS_mOnKeY> thinking about adding arch and mint to my vbox
[17:31] <BrAsS_mOnKeY> to get an idea of these different Linux OSs.
[17:34] <wxl> BrAsS_mOnKeY: yeah that seems to be the course that most users take with linux. try every version out there!
[17:35] <BrAsS_mOnKeY> one thing i'm worried about are licensing.
[17:35] <BrAsS_mOnKeY> is*
[17:35] <wxl> BrAsS_mOnKeY: personally, i'd say just start with someone and stick with it for a while. linux distros are a lot like colors: everyone has their opinions about them but there's no clear winner.
[17:35] <wxl> worried about licensing with linux?
[17:35] <BrAsS_mOnKeY> differnt distros
[17:35] <BrAsS_mOnKeY> using a server, etc
[17:36] <BrAsS_mOnKeY> for commercial for example.
[17:37] <BrAsS_mOnKeY> i think some distros charge a lot.
[17:37] <wxl> rarely is there software in the open source world that does nto allow commercial use
[17:37] <wxl> in fact, i don't think there are any
[17:37] <wxl> they may, however, ask for a fee when commercial use is involved
[17:37] <wxl> but honestly that's extremely rare
[17:39] <BrAsS_mOnKeY> ok :)
[17:40] <wxl> and it's almost always the case that you can just build from source or use the "community" version (thus foregoing commercial support though you still have community support)
[17:40] <wxl> openvpn is a good example of that, as is magento
[17:41] <wxl> regardless, it will ALWAYS cost more money to run a non-linux server
[17:41] <BrAsS_mOnKeY> i was wondering how the distros makers find out in the first place..
[17:41] <BrAsS_mOnKeY> lol
[17:42] <wxl> it's unlikely the distros are going to try to legislate that stuff
[17:42] <wxl> so ultimately it will be the upstream authors of the software
[17:43] <wxl> and how they might find out? not sure. not sure they do XD
[17:43] <BrAsS_mOnKeY> oh ok.
[17:44] <wxl> if you try to google the subject, you usually find issues with violating the freedom aspects of open source rather than ensuring the money is paid :)
[17:44] <BrAsS_mOnKeY> lol
[17:45] <wxl> in that sense, it's more of a copyright issue
[17:46] <wxl> e.g. https://www.quora.com/What-was-the-biggest-open-source-license-violation-case
[18:05] <BrAsS_mOnKeY> ps2
[19:10] <BrAsS_mOnKeY> i have a ps4.. been playing COD: Black Ops III.