[00:36] <nhaines> akk: I have a question about Apress royalty reporting when you have some time. :)
[00:36] <akk> Sure, PM me.
[00:36] <nhaines> Thanks!
[01:55] <pleia2> meeting in ~5 minutes
[01:58] <nhaines> Ooh, I finished building my own Puritine container just in time.  Now all the desktop app icons on my tablet work, and also I can stop wasting time on that and get stuff done.  :)
[02:00] <nhaines> Plus, I took my guitar out of the closet and tuned it.  All the strings were down a half step.  Now back in the closet for another 7 years!
[02:00]  * nhaines will learn to play some day.
[02:00] <nhaines> Meeting time!
[02:00] <nhaines> #startmeeting
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[02:00] <nhaines> #chair nhaines pleia2 ianorlin
[02:00] <darthrobot`> Current chairs: ianorlin nhaines pleia2
[02:00] <nhaines> Welcome to the Ubuntu California LoCo meeting for May 15th.
[02:00] <nhaines> Today's agenda is available at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/CaliforniaTeam/Meetings/16May15
[02:00] <darthrobot`> Title: [CaliforniaTeam/Meetings/16May15 - Ubuntu Wiki]
[02:01] <nhaines> #topic Upcoming events
[02:01] <nhaines> Are there any events that are being planned at the moment?  (We'll get to release parties soon.)
[02:02]  * ianorlin is not currently planning any
[02:03] <nhaines> #topic Announcements
[02:03] <pleia2> nothing from me here eitehr
[02:03] <nhaines> The Ubuntu Online Summit wrapped up 10 days ago.
[02:04] <nhaines> It was a fun UOS and there was a lot discussed.  Ubuntu 16.04 LTS put a lot of technolgies into place that are going to build the last stages of convergence.
[02:04] <nhaines> Tons of plans and roadmaps were revealed, and you can see a track summary session held by all the track leads here: http://summit.ubuntu.com/uos-1605/meeting/22691/track-summaries/
[02:04] <darthrobot`> Title: [Track Summaries - | The Summit Scheduler]
[02:05] <nhaines> And you can also view replays of all of the sessions as well.
[02:05] <nhaines> Are there any other announcements at this time?
[02:08] <nhaines> Okay then, on to our first agenda item.
[02:08] <nhaines> #topic 16.04 Release Parties
[02:08] <pleia2> so, we haven't had any yet
[02:08] <nhaines> \o/
[02:09] <pleia2> I couldn't find a venue on release day here in San Francisco, and then had to postpone until I have more time to organize
[02:09] <pleia2> I don't have time yet, but I hope to get something set up for July or so
[02:09] <ianorlin> pleia2 good idea
[02:10] <pleia2> July is when 16.04.1 comes out, which prompts all the upgrades from 14.04, kind of like a 2nd release day ;)
[02:10] <nhaines> And now things like the Ubuntu Software Store actually work.  :)
[02:10] <pleia2> hah, right
[02:11] <pleia2> hopefully we'll know more about the usb sticks for 16.04 release too
[02:11] <pleia2> there was never an announcement that they were available for locos to request
[02:12] <pleia2> (no word on dvd availability either, but there were murmurs about them dropping them entirely)
[02:12] <nhaines> Also they're still not available in the Canonical Store.
[02:12] <pleia2> yeah, I saw someone complain about that the other day
[02:12] <nhaines> The last I heard from Canonical, there would be no DVDs, and when I complained in an UOS session on video they didn't seem too sympathetic.  :)
[02:13] <pleia2> heh
[02:13] <pleia2> if anyone has any downtown SF venue ideas, feel free to let me know (or reply on list to the thread where we're talking about it)
[02:13] <nhaines> Although there was talk about producing DVD artwork anyway.
[02:13] <pleia2> I'll work to reach out to folks and stuff once I have a bit more time
[02:13] <pleia2> that's all from me
[02:14] <nhaines> Sounds good.
[02:14] <DonkeyHotei> why the requirement it be downtown?
[02:16] <pleia2> DonkeyHotei: it's where I live and I'm running the party
[02:16] <pleia2> also good public transit from all over the bay
[02:17] <pleia2> but mostly that I'm the one hauling everything over to the venue, so I don't want to go across town
[02:18] <nhaines> Seems reasonable enough.  :)
[02:19] <nhaines> No one's volunteered to run a party in SoCal and I'm overbooked, so at the moment there aren't any plans.
[02:19] <nhaines> But if somebody *did* want to, they could let me know and I would try to show up with an Ubuntu tablet that does stuff.
[02:21] <nhaines> Okay, so that's the end of our agenda.
[02:21] <nhaines> #topic Other Business
[02:21] <nhaines> Is there anything else anyone wanted to discuss?
[02:24] <pleia2> nothing here
[02:25] <nhaines> I'm going to start discussions with a local library about giving a couple of talks on Ubuntu and/or my Ubuntu book.
[02:25] <DonkeyHotei> the new member moratorium?
[02:25] <pleia2> great
[02:25] <nhaines> So I'll keep everyone informed if that goes off.  :)
[02:25] <nhaines> kicks off!
[02:25] <nhaines> (I almost said "goes well.")
[02:25] <pleia2> DonkeyHotei: on launchpad?
[02:25] <DonkeyHotei> yes
[02:25] <DonkeyHotei> any updates?
[02:25] <pleia2> we don't really use launchpad, so I wouldn't go as far as calling it a "new member moratorium"
[02:26] <pleia2> it's just temporarily paused until some of the wiki stuff can be sorted
[02:26] <pleia2> (our team is an open team, so spammers were joining to try to get access to the ubuntu wiki)
[02:26] <nhaines> I will note that this seems to have stopped as far as the joining bit goes.
[02:26] <pleia2> to be clear, people don't need to be part of the launchpad team, or need to know what launchpad is, to consider themselves a member of this team :)
[02:27] <nhaines> Yes, anyone in California who wants to promote Ubuntu is welcome.  :)
[02:28] <nhaines> pleia2: if you wanted to set the team back to open, I think it's probably safe to do so now.
[02:29] <pleia2> nhaines: I'd rather not, it only stopped because we locked down the wiki even further, as soon as that lets up we'll have to re-mod and I don't have the time to hover over it right now
[02:29] <nhaines> pleia2: I'm okay with this, too.
[02:30] <DonkeyHotei> thirded
[02:30] <lynorian> uh I hate the wiki spammers and can tell from pleia2 reaction at scale was harder
[02:30] <pleia2> I'll make sure it's on my list when a long-term wiki solution presents itself
[02:30] <lynorian> pleia2, yeah
[02:31] <nhaines> We should also maybe discuss changing how Launchpad fits into LoCo membership.
[02:31] <nhaines> A little later down the road, anyway.
[02:31]  * pleia2 nods
[02:31] <lynorian> do we need launchpad for say election of new leaders ?
[02:31] <pleia2> lynorian: good point
[02:32] <pleia2> and for the flyers and cd sleeves, which allows members direct committing to the repository rather than doing a merge request
[02:32] <lynorian> can't we manual add people still?
[02:32] <pleia2> yep
[02:32] <nhaines> We do *not*, but we use it for such now.
[02:32] <DonkeyHotei> we could just as easily use the mailing list roster for civs mails for elections
[02:33] <pleia2> yeah, we could
[02:34] <nhaines> We'll have to consider that carefully before making any policy changes.
[02:36] <nhaines> Well, we'll have to see how the wiki drama pans out, too.
[02:36]  * pleia2 nods
[02:36] <nhaines> Any other comments before we wrap things up?
[02:39]  * lynorian does not have anything
[02:39] <pleia2> thanks for chairing :)
[02:40] <nhaines> You're welcome.   :)
[02:40] <nhaines> Okay then, that wraps up this week's meeting.  We'll see you all on May 29th for our next meeting!
[02:40] <nhaines> #endmeeting
[02:40] <darthrobot`> Meeting ended Mon May 16 02:40:16 2016 UTC.
[02:40] <darthrobot`> Minutes:        http://ihas.5cat.com/~darthrobot/ubuntu-us-ca/2016/ubuntu-us-ca.2016-05-16-02.00.moin.txt
[02:40] <DonkeyHotei> memorial day weekend?
[02:40] <nhaines> Maybe!
[02:48] <nhaines> Post-meeting checklist finished!
[02:49] <nhaines> pleia2: I'm out of town the weekend of June 12th, so I won't be able to chair.  And I'll probably still be driving during the meeting, at that.
[02:50] <pleia2> nhaines: ok, I should be around
[02:51] <nhaines> pleia2: thanks!
[02:54] <toddc> Note I emailed to get 16.04 DVD's and was told that they will be usb drives but no ETA on shipping at this time
[02:54] <pleia2> toddc: ah, who did you email?
[02:55] <toddc> 1 sec looking email adress
[02:57] <toddc> stefanie.danevoy@canonical.com    office manager
[02:57] <nhaines> That's the person in charge of such requests.  :)
[02:58] <nhaines> Maybe I should send another email out from the LoCo Council and ask for an update.
[02:58] <toddc> we tried to order for azloco
[04:28] <dax> http://www.omgubuntu.co.uk/2016/05/mark-shuttle-worth-talks-ubuntu-phone-snappy ctrl-F TV
[04:28] <darthrobot`> Title: [Mark Shuttleworth Talks Ubuntu Watches, Unity 8 and The Future of Free Software - OMG! Ubuntu!]
[04:28] <dax> I guess the narrative changed from "we're focusing on phones first" ;)
[09:15] <nhaines> dax: nah, moving the phones to snappy makes phones better--but makes all Ubuntu better, too.
[09:29] <nhaines> The sooner everything is exactly one code base, the sooner everything benefits from every development again.