[00:00] <Bashing-om> volkswagner: Yeah r=removed , c= config files remain . My tight install for your reference: http://paste.ubuntu.com/16450013/ .
[00:00] <sebsebseb> django_: yes Grub will use WIndows EFI directory,  once that's done, things should work ok,  and that's also when both are installed n UEFI mode both OSes, which Ubuntu will be when you do what I said
[00:00] <ILI> just download ubuntu from here http://www.ubuntu.com/download install it on a usb put the usb in your pc start up from usb install ubuntu DONE
[00:00] <django_> sebsebseb: why can't I do this outside having to reinstall
[00:00] <sebsebseb> django_: then boot options should be able to load up Grub, and also  the computer itself should be able to load up Grub if not by default, after you have changed an optoin to bring up Grub first in the UEFI bios
[00:01] <sebsebseb> django_: since Ubuntu is probably installed in the wrong mode the legacy mode and such
[00:01] <sebsebseb> django_: and probably also hasn't been told to use Windows EFI directory, so tooo late now basicaly
[00:01] <luckybunny> got a temporary fix
[00:01] <django_> https://usercontent.irccloud-cdn.com/file/JOOdBjlG/1463356897.JPG
[00:01] <luckybunny> by starting in upstart instead of systemd
[00:01] <django_> Ok I'm in this step sebsebseb
[00:02] <sebsebseb> django_: once Ubuntu is installed in the legacy mode, no it can't just be changed to the UEFI mode
[00:02] <luckybunny> fixed both the startup issue and the sound issue
[00:02] <ILI> first one
[00:02] <sebsebseb> django_: same with Window
[00:02] <sebsebseb> django_: have you taken off your data off the Ubuntu partition?
[00:02] <django_> sebsebseb: what?
[00:02] <django_> Yes I got data
[00:02] <sebsebseb> django_: have you backed up your data?
[00:03] <sebsebseb> django_: right well partitining leave Windows aloen don't tick to format that etc
[00:03] <ILI> just reinstall ubuntu
[00:03] <sebsebseb> django_: espeically if you haven't backed up
[00:03] <sebsebseb> ILI: yep exactly just re install Ubuntu, but with the UEFI option there
[00:03] <django_> sebsebseb: what do I do from this step
[00:04] <Bashing-om> volkswagner: Package manager still say there is shortage of space ?
[00:04] <sebsebseb> django_: the partiner in the insatller is a bit too basic or can be,  normaly I like using gparted first and then finnishig off installer
[00:04] <sebsebseb> django_: but whatever works
[00:04] <sebsebseb> your ging to delete the Ubuntu partition
[00:04] <sebsebseb> and then make a new partiiton there in that space where you will re install Ubuntu
[00:04] <ILI> restart pc press DEL go to boot menu option one usb restart pc with usb filesystem on it install done
[00:05] <django_> sebsebseb: what? Do I just hit install now with the /dev/sda8 selected?
[00:05] <ILI> or just virtual box XDXDXDXD
[00:05] <sebsebseb> ILI: yeah when it's  using the windows efi directory sure that should work
[00:05] <Kallis> can anyone help me authenticate to my samba server via ldap on a windows server please ?
[00:05] <gtrt05> anybody know how i could make ubuntu 14.04 support my graphics car?
[00:05] <gtrt05> card*
[00:06] <sebsebseb> django_: ok disclaimer if you delete WIndows not my fault :)  but as long as you don't tick that for formatting that should stay no problem :)
[00:06] <ILI> just create new partition
[00:06] <ILI> or anoher Hard drive
[00:06] <sebsebseb> django_: if you didn't back up WIndows data again not my fault
[00:06] <django_> sebsebseb: man sorry but you aren't explaining
[00:06] <django_> I know how to install Ubuntu but I want to do the EFi thing you said
[00:06] <django_> How do I do the
[00:06] <django_> That
[00:06] <sebsebseb> django_: that's a later step
[00:06] <sebsebseb> django_: you got to do the partition first
[00:06] <django_> So just instal?
[00:07] <django_> I already have the partition
[00:07] <ILI> but why you want ubuntu?
[00:07] <sebsebseb> django_: delete the old Ubuntu partiiton, put a new partiton,  and install yes
[00:07] <django_> How do I delete
[00:07] <sebsebseb> django_: then when it gets to the what to do with Grub screen, that's when you do something
[00:07] <Bashing-om> !uefi | django_ Remeber ? Or have you read ?
[00:07] <sebsebseb> django_: the insatller sucks for pariting really go back to that lter
[00:07] <sebsebseb> django_: use gparted the partion editor first I guess
[00:08] <django_> Oh
[00:08] <django_> Ok
[00:08] <ILI> its hard to get it to work :P :D
[00:08] <minimec> django_: sebsebseb: Wouldn't a 'repair installation' be enough? It should bring you/him to the 'grub installation menu' of the installer in the end. You/he could then show us the options he gets.
[00:08] <ILI> just call me L
[00:08] <sebsebseb> django_: delete the old UBuntu from  gparted, and then make a new partion there in ext4,  tell
[00:08] <volkswagner> Bashing-om: here is my layout, http://paste.ubuntu.com/16450079/ and yes apt complains with http://paste.ubuntu.com/16450095/
[00:08] <sebsebseb> minimec: he tried but didn't seem to work
[00:08] <slothbag> anyone know how to get lightdm vnc working?  I can connect and login but the desktop never loads.. xsession-errors says something about "BadValue (integer parameter out of range for operation)  Major opcode of failed request:  109 (X_ChangeHosts)"
[00:09] <sebsebseb> minimec: he's backed up the data from Ubuntu now anyway so re instaolling makes snese
[00:09] <sebsebseb> minimec: can put in uefi mode then too
[00:09] <minimec> sebsebseb: Ok.
[00:09] <sebsebseb> minimec: I think teh current Ubuntu is installed in legacy mode
[00:09] <sebsebseb> hence issues
[00:09] <sebsebseb> or something like that
[00:09] <Bashing-om> volkswagner: reading .. be back soonest .
[00:10] <sebsebseb> django_: in gparted make a new partiotn fo rUbuntu,  set it as the / even, back to installer
[00:10] <sebsebseb> install Ubuntu
[00:10] <OerHeks> he had it installed in UEFI mode, and working, then he wanted to go back to legacy, and now again ..
[00:10] <sebsebseb> when it gets to the grub screen
[00:10] <sebsebseb> OerHeks: yeah I think he did something in the bios that messed it up before
[00:10] <django_> sebsebseb: so Ubuntu is in /dev/sda8 I just right click and delete that right
[00:10] <sebsebseb> OerHeks: just trying to get it in UEFI mode now, liike WIndows
[00:11] <sebsebseb> django_: once you got things in UEFI mode, don't play around with CMS or whatever options, leave all the UEFI bios stuff alone basically once you got installed and working ok
[00:11] <django_> Lol yeah
[00:11] <sebsebseb> django_: show me a screenshot ?
[00:12] <sebsebseb> django_: also before you re install, let's check this,  the UEFI bios itself is back to it's default settings yes?
[00:13] <sebsebseb> django_: you did that?  or did that except for maybe disaling secure boot?
[00:13] <{L}> love this
[00:13] <volkswagner> Bashing-om: Looks like I need to manually remove header-files, not just kernels
[00:13] <django_> https://usercontent.irccloud-cdn.com/file/SGgATlkE/1463357634.JPG
[00:14] <django_> Ok now how do I set up for Ubuntu
[00:14] <Sabel> hey seb, could you tell me how to copy the files into the folder it wouldnt let me earlier?
[00:14] <sebsebseb> django_: ok looks like Ubuntu is gone there in gparted, but why have you got six NTFS partiitons?
[00:15] <django_> Idk
[00:15] <sebsebseb> Sabel: uhmm you need to become root using sudo then you can do things in the terminal
[00:15] <django_> It was like that originally
[00:15] <Bashing-om> volkswagner: IF you removed the images, then yes remove the headers also . ' sudo apt-get autoremove ' might still work in this instance .
[00:15] <sebsebseb> django_: ok there's I guess a recor partion for WIndows, windows itsellf, and maybe a D
[00:15] <sebsebseb> django_: in your Ubuntu space was that already un partitioned too ?
[00:15] <django_> I deleted it
[00:15] <volkswagner> Bashing-om: autoremove also fails with disk full
[00:16] <django_> Now it says I allocated
[00:16] <django_> Unallocated
[00:16] <sebsebseb> django_: yes make a new partion there
[00:16] <django_> Which options
[00:16] <sebsebseb> django_: then I guess right click,  say you want it as a Ext4 and as / even
[00:16] <sebsebseb> django_: you could even set up a seprate /home whilst at if you want :d
[00:16] <sebsebseb> thos can be useful sometimes
[00:17] <django_> Where do I do the /
[00:17] <sebsebseb> django_: right click and go into the options
[00:17] <sebsebseb> django_: may have to click advance somd where , but I don't think so
[00:17] <django_> https://usercontent.irccloud-cdn.com/file/Z0GK2fcz/1463357855.JPG
[00:17] <sebsebseb> django_: file system Ext4
[00:17] <sebsebseb> django_: other thing  is / or root
[00:17] <sebsebseb> partiton type
[00:18] <sebsebseb> django_: you typed in ubuntu as the partiton name?
[00:18] <django_> Where do I do /
[00:18] <django_> The I typed it
[00:18] <django_> Yes
[00:18] <django_> Yes I typed it
[00:18] <sebsebseb> django_: no that's where it should say / really I think
[00:19] <sebsebseb> django_: the insatller can sort that out later anway
[00:19] <Bashing-om> volkswagner: K, then 'uname -r' so you know what kernel not to mess with .. and depending on kernels installed, simething along these lines to batch remove the headers ' sudo dpkg -P linux-headers-3.13.0-{36,37,39,40,41,43,44} ' . Then we look and see what else is to be removed .
[00:19] <sebsebseb> django_: partiton type /
[00:19] <django_> I have better idea
[00:19] <django_> Leave unallocated and do the option in installer
[00:19] <django_> The usual way
[00:20] <sebsebseb> django_: actasull this is what to do
[00:20] <sebsebseb> django_: make a new paritoin in gparted
[00:20] <sebsebseb> django_: or  maybe have unalloacted
[00:20] <sebsebseb> and  use installer sure
[00:20] <sebsebseb> after that
[00:20] <django_> :)
[00:20] <sebsebseb> make sure the installer uses it as Ext4 and / yep
[00:21] <sebsebseb> django_: then install and then when your on the what to do with the boot loader Grub screen, you need to do the important bit!
[00:21] <django_> !!
[00:21] <sebsebseb> why you put !!
[00:22] <Bashing-om> volkswagner: I also expect there are the " linux-headers-3.13.0-83-generic " versions to also deal with .
[00:23] <sebsebseb> django_: now what you doing?
[00:23] <sebsebseb> django_: I'll just finish helping you or trying to and then....
[00:24] <django_> Grrr
[00:24] <django_> I need to make new partition lol
[00:24] <sebsebseb> django_: well yes you got unalloacted space
[00:25] <sebsebseb> django_: so you need to make a new partion for UBuntu in it
[00:25] <Bashing-om> volkswagner: Ya got it fingered out ?
[00:25] <sebsebseb> that's a / and with Ext4
[00:25] <django_> So I'll just make smaller one
[00:25] <sebsebseb> django_: why smaller?
[00:25] <guesst>  anyone know weach channel can help me with script installing in host?
[00:25] <django_> Maybe I'll try other Linux distributions
[00:25] <theShirbiny> guesst, script installing?
[00:25] <sebsebseb> django_: uhmm
[00:25] <guesst> yes
[00:25] <sebsebseb> django_: yeah I like other distros :D
[00:26] <guesst> like nulled script
[00:26] <guesst> im getin crazy
[00:26] <sebsebseb> django_ you could set up a seperate /home and also enough sapce for other distros :d
[00:26] <sebsebseb> django_: /home is like my documents in Windows
[00:26] <sebsebseb> so can be useful having seprate
[00:26] <volkswagner> Bashing-om: No :( here is new error http://paste.ubuntu.com/16450243/
[00:26] <sebsebseb> all distros can use your sepeate /home
[00:26] <theShirbiny> guesst, what do want it this script to do exactly?
[00:26] <django_> Lol game of thrones in 30 min
[00:26] <django_> Do you watch it sebsebseb
[00:27] <sebsebseb> django_: seen the first series about there years ago,  got a way to catch up legaly on it all now, that should work for me :d
[00:27] <guesst> theShirbiny its dating script but complicated
[00:27] <sebsebseb> django_: I want to catch up on DC's  Legends of Tommorow tnoight
[00:27] <sebsebseb> django_: it's already past mid nigt here :D
[00:28] <django_> Oh where you at
[00:28] <sebsebseb> England
[00:28] <django_> You usually on irc with this nick?
[00:28] <django_> Nice
[00:28] <django_> I wanna visit that place
[00:28] <sebsebseb> I had intended to stay up like all night though
[00:28] <sebsebseb> nice and ark no refeldctiosn on TV etc
[00:28] <sebsebseb> quite
[00:28] <sebsebseb> yep
[00:28] <theShirbiny> guesst, still don't know what you're talking about, maybe someone else can help you
[00:29] <guesst> theShirbiny tryingto learn step by step hot to install the script
[00:29] <sebsebseb> django_: behind on the toher show,  Arrow and the Flash  up to date on well for the TV channel here, but behind on....  oh I'll just be in the ubuntu channel about half an hour agian, and now it's been like two hours h eh your fault :d, and where you from
[00:30] <guesst> theShirbiny tryingto learn step by step how to install the script*
[00:30] <volkswagner> Bashing-om: Not sure how I ended up readonly. I didn't mess with currently running kernel nor headers
[00:30] <theShirbiny> guesst, you want to learn bash scripting?
[00:30] <Bashing-om> volkswagner: Look'm at the latest .
[00:30] <sebsebseb> django_: I am around here sometimes more recently,  I am not really that keen on Ubuntu on the desktop compter or lap top anymore, other distors :d, but Ubuntu phones and tablets are nice and interesting :d
[00:30] <sebsebseb> I used to help out here a lot
[00:31] <sebsebseb> django_: is it installing yet?
[00:31] <django_> Still doing partition ::
[00:32] <EldonMcGuinness> I wish I could get ubuntu, or really any linux distro to work well on my notebook, but it has the damn GMA3600 chipset that supports nothing other than Windows 7. :/
[00:33] <sebsebseb> EldonMcGuinness: chipset for what?
[00:33] <EldonMcGuinness> sebsebseb: graphics
[00:33] <sebsebseb> oh
[00:33] <EldonMcGuinness> I mean I can get it on there, but then the desktop is too sluggish to really use and forget about watching videos.
[00:33] <sebsebseb> and which make is that?
[00:33] <Bashing-om> volkswagner: Ouch .. let's see ehat is . pastebin ' ls -al /usr/src/ ; ls -al /lib/modules/ ; ls -al /boot ; dpkg -l | grep linux- '.
[00:33] <EldonMcGuinness> intel
[00:34] <sebsebseb> Intel really
[00:34] <sebsebseb> Intel has mostly good grahics support now
[00:34] <sebsebseb> for LInux
[00:35] <EldonMcGuinness> yea, this is one that is not. I mean it just sucks. I can't even update the laptop to windows 10 due to the driver not supporting t.
[00:35] <sebsebseb> oh
[00:36] <sebsebseb> django_: ok now progress?
[00:36] <django_> Just completed
[00:36] <django_> The partition
[00:36] <volkswagner> Bashing-om: okay will do. Here is last 100 of syslog http://paste.ubuntu.com/16450531/
[00:36] <sebsebseb> django_: and told it to be ext4 and the / ?
[00:36] <django_> Yes
[00:36] <sebsebseb> django_: ok install
[00:37] <sebsebseb> django_: make sure it doens't ofrmat WIndows :D
[00:37] <volkswagner> Bashing-om: FYI the entire file system is RO
[00:38] <roadrunneratwast> hey. i just installed Xubuntu 16.04 on a VMWare virtual machine within Windows 7.  I get the error:  The virtual machine cannot enter Unity mode because:
[00:38] <roadrunneratwast> - Unity is not supported on the guest operating system.
[00:39] <sebsebseb> roadrunneratwast: which vmware version?
[00:39] <roadrunneratwast> I see there are instructions here about what drivers to install, but I am using xfce, not gnome.  So I am not sure ..
[00:39] <sebsebseb> server? player what?
[00:39] <roadrunneratwast> server 11
[00:39] <sebsebseb> roadrunneratwast: that's a odd issue
[00:39] <sebsebseb> roadrunneratwast: Unity 7 isn't paritculary fancy except fo rusing compiz for a few things, which might be it
[00:39] <roadrunneratwast> 11.0.0 build-2305329
[00:40] <sebsebseb> roadrunneratwast: may need to install a driver isnide the vm I guess,  oh and I would use Virtualbox now personally even on Windows :D
[00:40] <volkswagner> Bashing-om: Here's output of ls and other http://paste.ubuntu.com/16450612/
[00:40] <Bashing-om> volkswagner: Yikes ! What is on vda1 ? the operating system ? .. I "assume" we are working with a Virtual Machine ?
[00:40] <sebsebseb> roadrunneratwast: oh lost you there?
[00:40] <roadrunneratwast> there are instructions here for gnome desktop.  not sure if this will work for xfce too.  worth a try though? http://askubuntu.com/questions/227712/vmware-unity-mode-with-ubuntu-12-10
[00:40] <roadrunneratwast> yeah.  i am back
[00:40] <dbz2k> roadrunneratwast, so you have a vm in a vm?
[00:41] <roadrunneratwast> my host system is windows 7.  i just installed xubuntu 16
[00:41] <sebsebseb> roadrunneratwast: well I was saying,  may ned to install a drirver in it, Unity 7 isn't particuarly fancy except for running Compiz, and that I would personally use Virtualbox now on Windows :D
[00:41] <roadrunneratwast> as a virutal machine
[00:41] <volkswagner> Bashing-om:  yes KVM guest=Ubuntu 14.04.3 LTS host is Debian
[00:41] <sebsebseb> Virtaublox ona nything
[00:41] <sebsebseb> django_: installing?
[00:42] <django_> https://usercontent.irccloud-cdn.com/file/X0sMF0jg/1463359327.JPG
[00:42] <django_> sebsebseb:
[00:42] <sebsebseb> django_: yeah another few minutes I guess, then untill the  remove some drivers screen, and then the what to do with Grub screen
[00:43] <sebsebseb> django_: Ih aven't actsaully seen the 16.04 installer images yet :d
[00:44] <volkswagner> Bashing-om: / is on /dev/vda1 and which is entire filesystem except /srv
[00:44] <volkswagner> should I just try to force remount
[00:47] <Bashing-om> volkswagner: I see nothing really amiss that getting the -86 kernel installed would not fix - a just a bit of cleanup - . Can you think of any reason that the system went read-only to protect it's self ? We can -situation permitting- (  EXT4-fs warning (device vda1):)) - remount r/w .
[00:49] <volkswagner> Bashing-om: IDK why it went RO, would demsg or syslog have any clue?
[00:49] <volkswagner> let me look
[00:50] <volkswagner> if it went RO, perhaps logs couldn't get writtne
[00:51] <sebsebseb> django_: progress?
[00:51] <django_> Still
[00:51] <Bashing-om> volkswagner: Yeah ! no logs able to be written ! .. Debating with self what to do, oh what to do . Gonna go smoke on it .
[00:51] <sebsebseb> django_: when you get to teh grub screen at the bottom it should ask wehre to install Grub
[00:52] <sebsebseb> django_: and you then put the windows opton I think it will say something like /windows/efi
[00:52] <volkswagner> smoke'm if you got'em
[00:52] <django_> Ok
[00:52] <sebsebseb> django_: and then things should work better after taht
[00:52] <sebsebseb> django_: Grub should be able to come up from the boot menu at least, but to get Grub to come up first may have to find a optoin for it in the UEFI bios still thoguh
[00:54] <coffeeguy> hi how do i install the latest java in ubuntu?
[00:55] <django_> Ok
[00:55] <django_> Ty sebsebseb
[00:56] <Abe_> hi
[00:59] <coffeeguy> sudo apt-get install openjdk-9-jre <-- i found it :D thanks anyway
[00:59] <Bashing-om> volkswagner: The start of the problem " 0 to remove and 107 not upgraded." No doubt at this point with the errors reported for vda1 need to run a fsck . But I have no idea how to do so for a VM . _ the file system and swap must be unmounted !
[01:00] <volkswagner> Bashing-om: looks like I have filesystem trouble, perhaps that's why I was getting disk full when on surface it seemed I should have plenty http://paste.ubuntu.com/16450776/
[01:00] <volkswagner> can I do fsck using live boot media?
[01:02] <volkswagner> Bashing-om: Looks like I'm gonna have to boot a live cd on the VM since the disk image is qcow2
[01:04] <Bashing-om> volkswagner: I wish I could give confident advise . we know that we have to dig deeper .. ' sudo e2fsck -C0 -p -f -v /dev/vda1 ' ?? as the next stab at it ?
[01:07] <django_> sebsebseb:
[01:07] <django_> https://usercontent.irccloud-cdn.com/file/PJe40pxr/1463360858.JPG
[01:23] <OerHeks>  
[01:39] <jgornick> Hey folks, I just installed the minimal version of Ubuntu 16.04 and used LVM to partition my disks. When I boot I get a couple of error messages saying "lvmetad is not active yet, using direct activation during sysinit" and then no login prompt. Is there a way to fix the issue?
[01:42] <OerHeks> jgornick, i find this recent post (6days) with solved > http://askubuntu.com/questions/769863/lvmetad-is-not-active-yet-using-direct-activation-during-sysinit-solved i hope it applies to you too
[01:45] <jgornick> OerHeks: Saw that too, but I'm not working with a graphical environment.
[01:49] <QTC`> hi, I've hit a roadblock trying to setup GPU Passthrough. According to `lspci -nnk` the target GPU is claimed by radeon, is there a way to change the order the kernel loads its drivers/modules?
[01:49] <OerHeks> jgornick, then i have no clue :-(
[01:50] <QTC`> Specs: Motherboard: P9DWS, CPU i7 4790k, Main GPU: R9 270x, Passthrough GPU: HD 7770
[01:52] <QTC`> blacklisting Radeon is not a option since I'm using a different card for system graphics
[02:00] <threethirty> howdy all, is there a setting or plugin for unity where I can make the entire screen greyscale like it is when something is lagging
[02:01] <xangua> threethirty: no
[02:15] <n-iCe> how can I make my cpus to run at full speed
[02:40] <Lehthanis> evening all!
[02:41] <k00l3th4n> Would anyone know how to get isight.fw for a Macbook 2,1 running Ubuntu 16.04?
[02:41] <Lehthanis> trying to install postfix for smtp outgoing only on my server...and I'm followign this tutorial: https://www.digitalocean.com/community/tutorials/how-to-install-and-configure-postfix-as-a-send-only-smtp-server-on-ubuntu-14-04
[02:42] <Lehthanis> only when I do the install for mailutils which does include postfix...I don't get the screen where I choose internet site and such
[02:42] <Lehthanis> and then after that I have no main.cf
[02:42] <QTC`> k00l3th4n, I had it running in the past, I'll check if I still have notes on how i did it
[02:42] <ubuntu883> How does one update an existing repo? I have a DVD rip of 14.04 and want to take out many packages that i don't need and then re-index it?
[02:43] <ubuntu883> And would want to update it in-place
[02:43] <Lehthanis> is there a way to manually fire off the postfix configuration screen?
[02:45] <dax> Lehthanis: sudo dpkg-reconfigure postfix
[02:45] <k00l3th4n> QTC`: Would very much appreciate it. I've looked everywhere for it but no luck.
[02:46] <QTC`> k00l3th4n, i still have the firmware file, I'm currently checking if i have the notes on how i got it
[02:48] <k00l3th4n> I know how to install it. I just need the fw file. Could you send it to me?
[02:49] <k00l3th4n> QTC`: I just need the file. Could you send it to me?
[02:50] <QTC`> k00l3th4n, it looks like you "need" a installed copy of mac os x to get the firmware
[02:50] <QTC`> I can upload if you trust it
[02:52] <Lehthanis> dax: thanks!
[03:01] <Lehthanis> anyone know much abotu postfix?
[03:01] <Lehthanis> I can't seem to get it running, and I'm almost certain it's my hosts file
[03:01] <Ben64> you'll get better results ask your real question, and provide all details
[03:02] <Lehthanis> I'm trying to set it up for outgoing mail only from the server...
[03:02] <Lehthanis> when I restarted the service I got this:
[03:02] <Lehthanis> postmulti: fatal: unknown inet_protocols value "loopback-only" in "loopback-only"
[03:04] <Ben64> Lehthanis: well that error kind of says the problem
[03:04] <Lehthanis> the tutorial says to set it to that
[03:05] <Lehthanis> or localhost...which also gives me that same error only withlocalhost instead of loopback-only
[03:05] <Ben64> pastebin the config
[03:05] <Lehthanis> https://www.digitalocean.com/community/tutorials/how-to-install-and-configure-postfix-as-a-send-only-smtp-server-on-ubuntu-14-04
[03:06] <Ben64> in the error you posted you show "inet_protocols" while that page you linked says "inet_interfaces"
[03:07] <Lehthanis> well there you go then!
[03:08] <Lehthanis> I guess I edited the wrong value, lol...I don't remember what inet_protocols was...
[03:10] <Lehthanis> thanks for the extra set of eyes Ben64
[03:11] <Ben64> sure
[03:11] <Ben64> error messages don't lie often :)
[03:13] <Lehthanis> nope...but it's late and my eyes refused to read the error message as it presented itself...and with that I'm off to bed, thanks again!
[03:16] <QTC`> rebooting brb
[03:17] <amr_> please if anyone can help in inverted microphone problem with lenovo b50-70 laptop ?
[03:17] <amr_> no sound using internal mic on laptop lenovo b50-70
[03:18] <amr_> after searching for a while i found that this laptop has mic with 2 channels one of them has reversed polarity (phase inversion
[03:18] <amr_> can anyone help me regarding this issue
[03:19] <amr_> ?
[03:19] <amr_> helooo there
[03:19] <amr_> ?
[03:19] <Ben64> !patience | amr_
[03:20] <juanonymous> anybody uses skype here?
[03:20] <juanonymous> i got a problem from skype ip resolvers
[03:20] <Ben64> you should find a better program to use
[03:20] <juanonymous> is there any way to cover my skype ip using proxy
[03:21] <Arcaire> juanonymous: you don't need to do that anymore
[03:21] <Arcaire> they use nodes now, your ip won't be showing up on a resolver
 this problem affects mic input and i really cannot solve this
[03:22] <juanonymous> well it is
[03:22] <juanonymous> i am checking it
[03:22] <Ben64> amr_: yep i get it
[03:23] <juanonymous> 180.191.112.89:1964
[03:23] <juanonymous> Philippines
[03:23] <amr_> i have installed latest mainstream kernel 4.6 with latest ubuntu 16.04 and still have no mic input
[03:25] <amr_> and i don't know if i have to compile kernel  or how may i apply kernel patch to fix this
[03:26] <amr_> in some launchpad channels i see problem fixed but i don't know why all this time since ubuntu 14.04 and all laptops with inverted internal mics have that issue
[03:28] <luis_> holaa
[03:28] <SomeJuan> Lately, I've been getting error messages in KDE in a pop-up message with title "Error - Konsole" that reads: "A ZModem file transfer attempt has been detected, but no suitable ZModem software was found on this system. You may wish to install the 'rzsz' or 'lrzsz' package." Any idea what could be trying to initiate this transfer?
[03:30] <squirel> hai
[03:31] <squirel> anyone here use xfce?
[03:31] <QTC`> I'll try again, is there a way to change in which order kernel drivers/modules are loaded? I need to load the VFIO before Radeon.
[03:32] <squirel> any xfce users here?
[03:33] <amr_> no sound using internal mic on laptop lenovo b50-70
[03:34] <amr_> ?
[03:34] <amr_> how to fix inverted internal mic patch
[03:34] <amr_> ?
[03:35] <squirel> Linux prevails where macs fail :D
[03:35] <zkanda> Hello everyone, I installed kernel 4.6 in my laptop but now docker doesn't work because of missing aufs driver. Anyone how/where can I get/compile linux-image-extra for this kernel? Thank you in advance.
[03:36] <squirel> how do you switch tabs in irssi?
[03:39] <ubuntu677> anybody? How would I update a mirrored local repo? I want to remove and/or update some packages and need to re-index is after
[03:41] <squirel> hi
[03:42] <squirel> How come this place is so quiet when there's 1864 people here?
[03:43] <somsip> squirel: it's a support channel, not a chat channel
[03:43] <ubuntu677> really. i was hoping there was a repo expert here
[03:43] <somsip> squirel: alt + tab number
[03:43] <ubuntu677> cricket
[03:43] <ubuntu677> s
[03:43] <squirel> thanks :)
[03:43] <squirel> offical support channel?
[03:43] <somsip> ubuntu677: maybe try #ubuntu-mirrors though not sure if they do local mirrors there
[03:43] <somsip> squirel: yes
[03:43] <r4hul> ubuntu677: use rsync to update to update local repo
[03:44] <squirel> Anyone here an actual ubuntu-dev?
[03:44] <ubuntu677> sorry rsync won't work for me
[03:44] <amr_>  if you please can help me with problem with my laptop internal mic lenovo b50-70
[03:45] <somsip> !pm | amr_
[03:45] <wbill> if im on ubuntu mate can i ask ?'s here???
[03:45] <somsip> wbill: yes
[03:46] <wbill> #ZRW
[03:49] <wbill> im trying to install X11 libraries on Ubuntu 16.04 LTS anybody hav a clue as to how im coming it saying the no packages or the .deb file is blowing up on me
[03:50] <somsip> wbill: which packages?
[03:50] <thebluesquirel> Is there any ubuntu chat channels?
[03:50] <wbill> im on a pi 3 BTW
[03:50] <somsip> !ot | thebluesquirel
[03:50] <wbill> X11
[03:51] <wbill> im actually trying to instal fltk and it bombs saying i dont have the proper X11 libs
[03:51] <somsip> wbill: you're running 'apt-get install X11' ?
[03:51] <somsip> wbill: paste the error message. Use a pastebing
[03:51] <somsip> !paste | wbill
[03:52] <thebluesquirel> is there any other ways to switch tabs in irsii other than alt #?
[03:52] <isidora> asd
[03:55] <wbill> http://pastebin.com/8v8PHifv
[03:55] <Geo> Hi, trying to compile a 32bit binary with gcc (-m32), but I get "fatal error: sys/cdefs.h: No such file or directory". Compiling w/o -m32 works fine. What package am I missing? libc6-dev is installed...
[03:55] <somsip> wbill: how are you installing fltk?
[03:56] <thebluesquirel> is there any other wats to switch tabs in irssi?
[03:56] <thebluesquirel> ways
[03:56] <wbill> compiling it with a tarball
[03:57] <krytarik> thebluesquirel: That's more on topic in #irssi.
[03:57] <somsip> wbill: related thread, but old, and until you can find out what is missing, it's not an ubuntu issue https://www.raspberrypi.org/forums/viewtopic.php?f=67&t=28911
[03:57] <brushdemon> Geo: have you installed the i386 lib?
[03:58] <somsip> wbill: do you have a desktop installed on the pi?
[03:58] <Moult> apt-get install apache2 gives me 2.4.7. i want >=2.4.8. i have tried apt-get install apache2=2.4.10-1ubuntu1.1~ubuntu14.04.1 but it doesn't find any package to install. how do i get apache2 >=2.4.8 ?
[03:58] <james> Hi guys I have an issue with The following packages have unmet dependencies:
[03:58] <james> teamviewer:i386:
[03:58] <somsip> Moult: what version of ubuntu?
[03:59] <Guest63607> Hi guys I have an issue with The following packages have unmet dependencies teamviewer:i386:
[03:59] <Geo> brushdemon- yeah, that seems to be missing. thanks
[03:59] <somsip> Guest63607: have you tried installing the dependencies?
[03:59] <Moult> somsip: trusty
[03:59] <Ben64> Moult: use a ppa or install 16.04
[03:59] <Guest63607> no
[03:59] <Guest63607> i don't know what that
[03:59] <Guest63607> but team viewer works
[03:59] <somsip> !info apache trusty | Moult (that's the supported version, or see !ppa)
[03:59] <Moult> Ben64: i am new to ubuntu. i would like to us a ppa, how do i find out which ppa i need to use, and where to place it?
[04:00] <somsip> !info apache2 trusty | Moult (that's the supported version, or see !ppa)
[04:00] <somsip> !ppa | Moult
[04:00] <Guest63607> but it's when i wanna update my system
[04:00] <wbill> forget i said pi im trying to install it on a intel core i7 also same version ubuntu screams the same way no X11 libs
[04:00] <somsip> Guest63607: so if it works, what's the real problem?
[04:00] <somsip> wbill: and what desktop is installed?
[04:01] <somsip> !paste | Guest63607 (paste the full error message)
[04:01] <Moult> somsip: hmm, there seems to be quite a few in that ppa search engine. how do i know which to use?
[04:01] <somsip> Moult: PPAs are unsupported, so you research and take the risk
[04:02] <somsip> Moult: *if* you decide to look at the ondrej (sp?) PPA, beware it can bring in other dependencies you might not want
[04:02] <Guest63607> when i run update
[04:02] <Moult> somsip: yep, was looking at that
[04:02] <Moult> somsip: don't mind the other deps though, will play
[04:03] <Moult> !addppa
[04:03] <somsip> Moult: it can cause real problems for people who want newer versions of PHP, so just apache might be okay
[04:05] <wbill> the Ubuntu Mate desktop whatever comes witht he normal install
[04:06] <Moult> somsip: hmm did add-apt-repository ppa:ondrej/apache2
[04:06] <Moult> somsip: apt-get install apache2, but apache2 -v still says 2.4.7
[04:06] <somsip> Moult: apt-get update first
[04:07] <somsip> wbill: ah yes. You said. This might help, but this is not an ubuntu issue so I'm out now http://fltk.easysw.narkive.com/QWamvO6k/fltk-2-x11-libs-which-are-needed-ubuntu
[04:07] <Moult> somsip: looking again, https://launchpad.net/~jonathonf/+archive/ubuntu/apache24 might be a cleaner ppa
[04:08] <somsip> Moult: I'd encourage you to make sure it's the right one for you before you install. PPAs can get ugly,. Hence, not supported here
[04:11] <SuperBawlz> Hey, I'm having a bit of trouble installing my NVIDIA drivers. I'm trying to use the Additional Drivers screen in the KDE interface.
[04:12] <SuperBawlz> When I select the NVIDIA drive is freezes for a few seconds and then goes back to Nouvea
[04:22] <Moult> !info php5-fpm trusty
[04:23] <R0binH00d> !info php-mysql
[04:24] <R0binH00d> !info hdajackretask
[04:24] <R0binH00d> !info alsa-tools
[04:24] <somsip> !abusethebot | R0binH00d
[04:24] <somsip> !bot | R0binH00d
[04:24] <Moult> !ppa-purge
[04:24] <R0binH00d> ?? somsip What was that for?
[04:25] <somsip> R0binH00d: if you're doing lots of bot commands, you can do them by pm to keep it out of the channel. That's all
[04:25] <R0binH00d> I did just 3
[04:25] <somsip> R0binH00d: or hit the webpage directly, which has a helpful search
[04:25] <dax> ubottu: abusethebot is <alias> botabuse
[04:28] <R0binH00d> somsip, I have searched the internet for 3 months straight to get HDAJackRetask to work on my HP laptop with beats audio, none of the solutions worked, i asked that question in this channel 4 times, no one replied, and 3 searches for the bot makes me a spammer?
[04:29] <R0binH00d> Utter Disgusting
[04:30] <somsip> R0binH00d: no mention of spam at all. Just a link to help you. Take umbrage if you will
[04:33] <Nene1> hello all..
[04:36] <Nene1> i am applying security patches using unattended-upgrades.. after applying patches i am rebooting machine if /var/run/reboot-required file exists.  Now issue is   /var/run/reboot-required still existing even after first reboot..
[04:36] <Nene1> so is there any way to avoid multiple reboots for applying security patches??
[04:38] <somsip> Nene1: it sounds like you are initiating the reboot. Is that right?
[04:39] <Nene1> somsip: yeah  i am rebooting for one time
[04:39] <somsip> Nene1: is there a problem that prevents you using unattended-upgrades built-in reboot?
[04:40] <Nene1> i can't use that... i am not applying patches manually
[04:41] <Nene1> I am applying patches manualyy***
[04:41] <Nene1> somsip: ^^
[04:42] <abhishek> I was facing a wifi issue with laptop. I am able to connect to wifi but it doesn't transmit data for the internet to work
[04:42] <abhishek> More details: http://askubuntu.com/questions/772180/wifi-not-working-realtek
[04:43] <abhishek> any ideas folks?
[04:44] <Nene1> somsip: i dont want automatic reboot...
[04:48] <potasmic> HEy guys
[04:48] <potasmic> what's the best Screenshotting tool on Ubuntu?
[04:48] <potasmic> I just switched from Win10, and ShareX was so good
[04:48] <potasmic> but Shutter is icky and obviously the default screenshotter doesn't have exporting
[04:55] <BlueShark> Hi. I'm only getting less than 2 hours battery life with Ubuntu whereas I get 4+ with Windows 8.1. Why is this?
[04:56] <fromhy> flashplayer firefox download
[04:58] <dchapman> potasmic: I like scrot.
[04:58] <potasmic> dchapman, is it in the app browser?
[04:58] <potasmic> lemme check
[04:59] <somsip> !info xsnap | potasmic (very simple)
[04:59] <dchapman> !info scrot
[04:59] <somsip> oh well
[04:59] <potasmic> dchapman, scrot isn't in the Ubuntu Software
[04:59] <dchapman> potasmic: apt install scrot
[04:59] <potasmic> aright
[05:00] <potasmic> Btw, is there a hotkey to bring up terminal like Win+R > cmd  on Win?
[05:00] <dchapman> Depends on your desktop environment / window manager. You may have to add a shortcut to launch the terminal of your choice.
[05:01] <icedwater> Hi guys, I'm using 12.04 and I couldn't get eth0 detected after a power outage. It's working fine on another distro, and the cable has been tested with another PC as well. What should I be looking for to fix it?
[05:01] <icedwater> potasmic: if you're using Unity, I think they have Ctrl-Alt-T by default.
[05:01] <potasmic> icedwater, got it
[05:01] <BlueShark> potasmic, Ctrl + Alt + T
[05:01] <icedwater> I switch it to Cmd-Z, but that's just what I prefer.
[05:01] <icedwater> Err, Win-Z.
[05:01] <fromhy> !info flashplayer
[05:02] <potasmic> ugh now I can't uninstall shutter
[05:02] <baizon> !info flashplugin-installer | fromhy
[05:03] <fromhy> !info flashplugin-installer
[05:05] <potasmic> what's the difference between apt and apt-get?
[05:05] <somsip> !info apt | potasmic (maybe it says here)
[05:05] <baizon> potasmic: https://askubuntu.com/questions/445384/what-is-the-difference-between-apt-and-apt-get
[05:06] <somsip> potasmic: http://askubuntu.com/questions/445384/what-is-the-difference-between-apt-and-apt-get
[05:06]  * dax munches popcorn
[05:06] <potasmic> Okay, maybe I shouldn't ask questions that I can Google.
[05:06] <somsip> potasmic: a good rule to have
[05:06] <potasmic> right.
[05:08] <potasmic> Okay so scrot doesn't have uploading and stuff
[05:08] <jackone> are 802.1x in ubuntu there user and computer authentication mode?
[05:09] <somsip> jackone: markov chaining? Or can you rephrase?
[05:10] <jackone> for EAP(PEAP), it need username and password, no computer auth provided
[05:11] <somsip> jackone: ok - my apologies. I have no idea
[05:11] <BlueShark> somsip, lol
[05:13] <hateball> jackone: do you want to auth with a certificate?
[05:15] <jackone> auth with computer id authentication
[05:16] <jackone> but it has not the option
[05:17] <hateball> jackone: I think you may need to config wpa_supplicant for that manually
[05:17] <hateball> network-manager doesnt have a gui for it afaik
[05:18] <jackone> it's ethernet link for 802.1x security setting
[05:28] <pooka> hallo
[05:32] <Opr8> Just installed Ubuntu 64bit most recent version
[05:33] <Opr8> Spent about an hour or so downloading software and drivers
[05:34] <Opr8> Restart nd now it's hung up on a black screen with white text saying "/dev/sda3: clean 200328/15867904 files, 2527076/64453953 blocks"
[05:34] <Opr8> And I can't do anything, tried hard reset comes right back here. Anyone know how to fix this?
[05:35] <hateball> Opr8: what did you change before reboot? did you change gpu driver for instance?
[05:35] <Opr8> New GPU driver among other things yes
[05:35] <Opr8> Hateball yes
[05:36] <baizon> Opr8: nvidia?
[05:36] <Opr8> AMD r9 380
[05:37] <hateball> hmmm, AMD should have drivers installed with the kernel
[05:37] <hateball> Opr8: did you do something like manually download and install fglrx ?
[05:37] <Opr8> I think so yes.
[05:37] <Opr8> Wanted to install latest drivers and that's what I found online through a guide
[05:38] <hateball> afaik fglrx is not supported in 16.04, only radeon/amdgpu that are included with the kernel
[05:38] <Opr8> I'm a huge scrub at linuz
[05:38] <hateball> But I am not an AMD guy
[05:38] <dax> (hateball is correct)
[05:38] <Opr8> Gotcha so am I boned and have to reformat pretty much?
[05:38] <hateball> nah
[05:38] <dax> (not only is it not supported, it will not work without downgrading Xorg, which is not a particularly sane idea)
[05:38] <hateball> Opr8: You should be able to boot into recovery console and purge fglrx
[05:38] <fantomas_> ^
[05:39] <Opr8> Would you possibly know of a good guide to follow to do that?
[05:39] <Opr8> Also so I don't need drivers for my GPU then? It should just auto have them?
[05:40] <hateball> Opr8: Yes, it's included with the kernel
[05:41] <Opr8> Ah okay thanks very much. I'll try to figure out the recovery mode then. Very much appreciated
[05:41] <hateball> Opr8: Anyhows, I have no recent experience with AMD so I don't know how to remove fglrx
[05:41] <Opr8> Another thing I can't figure out, steam refused to launch after installing without error
[05:41] <hateball> Certainly not if it was a manual install. But there should be some uninstall script somewhere I guess
[05:41] <hateball> Opr8: That's a problem with the new amdgpu driver and steam
[05:41] <fantomas_> It should be as simple as sudo apt-get purge fglrx I think
[05:41] <fantomas_> I've been fighting with it today
[05:42] <Opr8> So I can't use steam right now?
[05:42] <hateball> Opr8: to launch steam, run it like so: LD_PRELOAD='/usr/$LIB/libstdc++.so.6' DISPLAY=:0 steam
[05:42] <Opr8> I tried that and it didn't work. Csnt remember the error it threw
[05:44] <Opr8> Sorry for all the noob questions. I'm booting recovery now. Which option should I choose to purge?
[05:45] <fantomas_> Someone else would know better than I would, but alt+ctrl+F1 brings up terminal
[05:45] <fantomas_> er, ctrl+alt+F1
[05:46] <Opr8> Hmm not seeming to work. Will dick around thanks.
[05:46] <hateball> Opr8: google suggests: sudo aticonfig --uninstall
[05:46] <Heero151> is there a setting I can change that will make it to where I no longer see when someone connects/disconnects/goesidle/shutsdown
[05:47] <hateball> Opr8: see the bottom post http://askubuntu.com/questions/445758/uninstalling-previous-install-of-the-fglrx-driver
[05:47] <nchambers> Heero151, depends on the client
[05:47] <nchambers> (assuming you're talking about IRC)
[05:48] <Opr8> Got it thanks ms uninstalling now
[05:49] <Opr8> Trying to boot
[05:50] <Opr8> I'm in. Alright now to figure out stream and figure out if my GPU has drivers
[05:51] <Opr8> Now it's throwing internal error related to Xorg xserver core
[05:51] <Opr8> Assuming that's GPU related
[05:51] <gambit1> for me, steam took what seemed like forever to launch
[05:52] <Opr8> I launched it and it does nothing. How long did you have to wait
[05:52] <gambit1> and the amd/ati driver should be the open source one, should be radeon something or other.
[05:52] <gambit1> uhm, at least 5 minutes, i thought it didn't install correctly bcause it took so long
[05:52] <hateball> Opr8: just launching via the gui launcher wont work afaik, you need to launch with the command I gave you
[05:54] <Opr8> Hateball that command gives me "steam runtime is enabled automatically. Steamuodateui an X error occured"
[05:55] <CarlenWhite> How do I boot myself into Single User mode?
[05:55] <Opr8> "X error of failed request: BadValue (integer parameter out of range
[05:55] <CarlenWhite> I'm on Ubuntu Server and I do not get the GRUB boot screen.
[05:56] <hateball> Opr8: Really? Hmmm. Did you paste the string, or type manually?
[05:56] <baizon> Opr8: https://paste.ubuntu.com/16452897/
[05:56] <CarlenWhite> Nevermind. Managed to get to the GRUB screen.
[05:56] <opr8pc> type manually, im on my pc now if you'd be kind enough to paste again
[05:56] <opr8pc> i could copy
[05:56] <hateball> CarlenWhite: You should be able to hold/hammer left shift
[05:56] <hateball> CarlenWhite: oh :)
[05:57] <CarlenWhite> Seems like when I was booting it from Hyper-V, there was a bit of hesitation before it could 'connect' and display the screen. I caught it before GRUB timed out.
[05:57] <hateball> with the latest steam beta client you should be able to launch it with "STEAM_RUNTIME=0 steam" as well. of course you have to be able to start it and update first :|
[05:58] <Bill_Gates> Hey ubuntuans
[05:58] <opr8pc> STEAM_RUNTIME=0 steam gave me a new error saying im missing libraries
[05:58] <opr8pc> so this is something to follow at least
[05:58] <Bill_Gates> Any way to save files in guest mode??
[05:58] <baizon> opr8pc: https://paste.ubuntu.com/16452897/
[05:58] <CarlenWhite> Um
[05:59] <CarlenWhite> Whoops? http://puu.sh/oTCxy.png
[05:59] <opr8pc> https://paste.ubuntu.com/16452915/
[05:59] <lotuspsychje> Bill_Gates: on usb stick
[06:00] <opr8pc> baizon i get nothing returned when using that command
[06:00] <baizon> opr8pc: restart steam then
[06:00] <Bill_Gates> No, other than that.
[06:00] <CarlenWhite> Hrm
[06:00] <opr8pc> it works!
[06:01] <Bill_Gates> Within the present sources.
[06:01] <opr8pc> Thanks so much baizon hateball
[06:01] <CarlenWhite> Oh the machine isn't dead. Just had a black screen for a moment.
[06:01] <hateball> opr8pc: :)
[06:01] <lotuspsychje> Bill_Gates: what sources?
[06:01] <baizon> opr8pc: save that command, that happens more often with steam ;)
[06:01] <opr8pc> okay will do
[06:01] <Bill_Gates> HDD, i
[06:01] <Bill_Gates> think
[06:01] <hateball> opr8pc: yeah, if the client updates it'll put those files back
[06:02] <opr8pc> seems weird for that big of a problem to be persisting
[06:02] <opr8pc> who's fault is it?
[06:02] <hateball> Really wish Valve would update the Steam Runtime to a 16.04 base
[06:02] <hateball> opr8pc: Well, I'd blame Valve :p
[06:02] <baizon> opr8pc: valve, because of their own libraries
[06:03] <lotuspsychje> !details | Bill_Gates try to make sense please
[06:03] <opr8pc> where can i rent a pitchfork?
[06:03] <opr8pc> also why the hell isnt rocketleague on linux yet?
[06:03] <opr8pc> shit was supposed to be q1 2015
[06:04] <Bill_Gates> Just need to authorize guest mode for limited file storage access. ugges
[06:04] <hateball> baizon, opr8pc: however without the runtime we would likely have less games, so it's a blessing and a curse :)
[06:04] <Bill_Gates> Just need to authorize guest mode for limited file storage access. *Suggest a way to do so
[06:04] <opr8pc> hateball ill just rent a small pitchfork then
[06:04] <lotuspsychje> Bill_Gates: tell us why you dont use the admin account instead of the guest one?
[06:04] <kalenedrael> how do I tell ubuntu to not mount an encrypted /home partition at boot time? I'd like to mount it manually after booting
[06:05] <kalenedrael> (this on is ubuntu server 16.04)
[06:05] <opr8pc> Hateball baizon is there anyway to fix the weird network activity of steam on linux? On Windows I get solid 14-15mbs. on linux its like 2.5mbs - 0 - 15 - 0
[06:06] <hateball> opr8pc: Do other applications work as expected, network-wise?
[06:06] <opr8pc> havent tested any yet
[06:06] <hateball> opr8pc: Are you wireless?
[06:06] <opr8pc> besides chrome/firefox they worked fine
[06:06] <opr8pc> wired
[06:07] <hateball> opr8pc: Check your regional settings in Steam perhaps. If other things works properly it's not really an Ubuntu problem
[06:07] <hateball> opr8pc: fwiw I cap out my 130mbps connection, so it's not a general issue at any rate
[06:07] <opr8pc> kk
[06:08] <opr8pc> just did speedtest.net and got awful result compared to windows
[06:08] <opr8pc> its very jittery
[06:09] <Bill_Gates> Oh god! I'm admin but for someone to use my pc, I need to provide them a storage space for conveniency . So, that's why ....
[06:10] <hateball> opr8pc: what chipset/model are you using? "lspci -k" will tell
[06:10] <hateball> chipset/module*
[06:10] <Bill_Gates> Can't afford to provide admin access.
[06:11] <hateball> Bill_Gates: You could make a folder under /opt/ that's rw for everyone. Think about the consequences tho
[06:11] <opr8pc> hateball https://paste.ubuntu.com/16453000/
[06:11] <hateball> opr8pc: Is the wifi not being used at all now?
[06:11] <opr8pc> no, its not connected
[06:16] <hateball> opr8pc: hmmm, I am just googling since it's not a problem I know of. Some old posts suggest changing MTU improves performance
[06:16] <Robbster> morning all. I've got a 1TB external WD drive that I recently purchased. I used it once to put a dd image of my HDD on, and now it isn't readable in either ubuntu OR windows. (NTFS)
[06:17] <Bill_Gates> consequences ??
[06:17] <Robbster> I'm not sure what to do about it.
[06:17] <opr8pc> hateball no problem man, if you've not heard of it i can dig
[06:18] <lotuspsychje> Robbster: what happens at boot mate?
[06:18] <Robbster> boot? drive not connected at boot (external)
[06:19] <lotuspsychje> Robbster: oh your not gonna replace it as mian, right..
[06:19] <lotuspsychje> main
[06:19] <Robbster> humm, interesting, I can access it from the command line...
[06:19] <hateball> opr8pc: here's a bug report at any rate https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/linux/+bug/1275161
[06:19] <Robbster> just not in nautilus
[06:19] <lotuspsychje> Robbster: did you try to format the drive with gparted? or do you still need the data on?
[06:20] <Robbster> and many of the files (the ones that come on the drive) are owned by ?.? and have a datetime of ?
[06:20] <Robbster> seems like a corrupted drive?
[06:20] <Robbster> lotuspsychje: never formatted, but it seems like I'll need to :)
[06:20] <opr8pc> very weird
[06:20] <Robbster> now, where to put the 256GB hdd image.....
[06:20]  * Robbster hunts for another drive...
[06:21] <Robbster> thanks lotuspsychje
[06:21] <hateball> opr8pc: there is also this https://unixblogger.wordpress.com/2011/10/18/the-pain-of-an-realtek-rtl8111rtl8168-ethernet-card/
[06:21] <lotuspsychje> Robbster: good luck mate
[06:22] <r4hul> opr8pc: use r8168 instead of r8169
[06:24] <hateball> opr8pc: "sudo apt-get install r8168-dkms" should switch driver
[06:25] <opr8pc> hateball attempting now
[06:26] <opr8pc> hateball r4hul https://paste.ubuntu.com/16453117/
[06:28] <r4hul> opr8pc: pastebin output of inxi -Nnx pls
[06:29] <Faiz> i need help
[06:29] <Faiz> is anyone online ?
[06:29] <Faiz> is anyone online ??
[06:29] <Faiz> hello ?
[06:29] <opr8pc> r4hul https://paste.ubuntu.com/16453146/
[06:30] <dax> there are plenty of people online. they tend to be more likely to appear if you ask your actual question though
[06:30] <Faiz> oh
[06:30] <Faiz> nice
[06:30] <Faiz> my main problem is
[06:30] <hateball> opr8pc: you'll need to reboot tho
[06:30] <Faiz> i messed up with my ubunt
[06:30] <Faiz> system
[06:30] <hateball> opr8pc: or manually modprobe -r r8169 && modprobe r8168
[06:31] <Faiz> there r black borders on every window
[06:31] <Faiz> nd i cant find system
[06:31] <Faiz> which was on the top bar
[06:31] <opr8pc> hateball r4hul rebooting brb
[06:32] <Faiz> what should i do ?
[06:33] <Arcaire> What's that command again?
[06:33] <Arcaire> !patience | Faiz
[06:33] <Faiz> sry
[06:34] <opr8pc_> r4hul hateball back
[06:34] <hateball> opr8pc: have a look with "lspci -k" again, see that r8168 is loaded
[06:34] <WICK3D> hello out there
[06:34] <opr8pc_> hateball r4hul
[06:34] <opr8pc_> yes it is using that one
[06:35] <opr8pc_> will try a steam download again
[06:35] <Faiz> oh i forgot to mention
[06:35] <Faiz> my terminal is blank
[06:35] <Faiz> cant see anything in it
[06:35] <WICK3D> is steam the best way to play windows based games?
[06:35] <opr8pc_> hateball full speed so far, no jitters
[06:36] <hateball> !wine | WICK3D
[06:39] <Faiz> ah
[06:39] <Faiz> i gtg now
[06:40] <WICK3D> yeag, i have WINE and steam on, cant make sence of it
[06:41] <Trinity> i've editted my /etc/sudoers file and the changes havent taken effect
[06:41] <Trinity> I've even relogged and restarted my computer. The only times it does work is when I type 'sudo service sudo restart' in a terminal. And then only that terminal will have it work for it
[06:41] <Trinity> any ideas of what I can do?
[06:42] <hateball> WICK3D: there is also playonlinux that is meant to make wine-gaming easier
[06:44] <opr8pc_> Thanks for all the help tonight hateball, im heading to bed. Gnight
[06:45] <hateball> opr8pc_: :)
[06:48] <Trinity> hmm, nvmd about what I asked before. Can someone tell me how I can get the /etc/sudoers file to take effect
[06:49] <ikonia> Trinity: it's real time
[06:50] <baizon> Trinity: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Sudoers
[06:50] <Trinity> baizon, i've gone through that and searched it. Nothing said anything about realtime. Thanks ikonia
[06:50] <WICK3D> where is !AppDB found
[06:51] <hateball> !appdb | WICK3D
[06:51] <WICK3D> i have playonlinux too...lol
[06:52] <ikonia> why is that funny ?
[06:52] <Trinity> http://pastebin.com/nH9erZRh heres my sudoers file
[06:52] <Trinity> but it's still prompting me for a password
[06:53] <ikonia> Trinity: please show is the exact command you are running
[06:54] <WICK3D> might try left for dead 4 --- can i just download the torrrent?
[06:54] <Trinity> ikonia, i'm running 'sudo visudo'
[06:54] <ikonia> Trinity: wand that's what's asking you for a password
[06:54] <ikonia> WICK3D: we do not support piracy here - please don't ask again
[06:54] <baizon> Trinity: if you run sudo, the pwd prompt pops up
[06:54] <Trinity> and I'm entering this into it. user is actually my username. http://paste.linux.chat/view/c8e155fd
[06:55] <ikonia> Trinity: what is the exact command you are using please
[06:55] <Trinity> ikonia, ./firewall-on.sh
[06:55] <ikonia> Trinity: right - that is not in your sudoers file
[06:55] <Trinity> ikonia, how is it not?
[06:55] <ikonia> Trinity: /home/dcai/Workshop/project/netest/firewall-on.sh IS in your sudoers file
[06:56] <WICK3D> sorry ikonia
[06:56] <ikonia> Trinity: what you are typing is totally different
[06:56] <Trinity> ikonia, thats where it's located. I run ./firewall-on.sh when i'm in the working directory of /home/dcai/Workshop/project/netest/
[06:56] <ikonia> Trinity: yes, and that is not in your sudoers path
[06:56] <ikonia>  /home/dcai/Workshop/project/netest/firewall-on.sh is in your sudoers path
[06:57] <Trinity> ikonia, ah I see. hold on
[06:58] <Trinity> ikonia, now i'm running '/home/dcai/Workshop/project/netest/firewall-on.sh' in the terminal and i'm still being prompted for sudo
[06:58] <ikonia> Trinity: can you show me the exact command line you're running please
[06:59] <Trinity> ikonia, perhaps i'm misunderstanding. What do you mean by the exact command line i'm running? When i'm starting the application defined in the sudoers file? If so, it would be '/home/dcai/Workshop/project/netest/firewall-on.sh' right now
[06:59] <ikonia> Trinity: I'm asking you to show me exactly what you are typing into the terminal please
[07:00] <Trinity> that is exactly what I am typing into the terminal...
[07:00] <ikonia> Trinity: no, it's not, as there is no sudo in there
[07:00] <Trinity> ah finally i get it
[07:01] <Trinity> ikonia, sudo iptables-restore < /home/dcai/Workshop/project/nettest/on
[07:01] <Trinity> so I should put that in the suders correct?
[07:01] <ikonia> Trinity: right - that is NOT in your sudo filep
[07:01] <ikonia> Trinity: where is iptables-restore in your rules ?
[07:01] <Trinity> its not and that would be why I am having this issue
[07:02] <Trinity> thanks ikonia ! sorry for being such a dunce lol
[07:02] <ikonia> you're wasting my time
[07:02] <Trinity> its working now
[07:04] <snapfractalpop> Anyone here running Brave on ubuntu?
[07:04] <snapfractalpop> I can't get the git to compile.. and don't know if there's a channel for it on freenode
[07:04] <ikonia> just use the package supplied by ubuntu
[07:07] <snapfractalpop> ikonia: I didn't even realize there was one..
[07:07] <snapfractalpop> I'll check it out
[07:09] <baizon> snapfractalpop: https://github.com/brave/browser-laptop/releases
[07:09] <ikonia> snapfractalpop: just open the ubuntu package manager, and search for git
[07:09] <ikonia> snapfractalpop: you may find https://help.ubuntu.com a good introduction on using the basics of ubuntu, including the package manager
[07:10] <snapfractalpop> ikonia: I couldn't find brave in the repos..
[07:10] <snapfractalpop> baizon: thanks
[07:10] <snapfractalpop> I will use the deb if I can't compile from source
[07:10] <ikonia> snapfractalpop: you asked for git, not brave
[07:10] <ikonia> snapfractalpop: ahh, I missread,
[07:10] <ikonia> snapfractalpop: sorry, I see what you're asking
[07:11] <snapfractalpop> ikonia: sorry.. I was not very clear the way I asked
[07:11] <rofiquzzaki> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=I0iZ9kNj9X8
[07:11] <snapfractalpop> I can see how you misinterpretted my meaning
[07:11] <rofiquzzaki> sorry, wrong paste
[07:11] <snapfractalpop> I meant the github on Brave
[07:12] <snapfractalpop> I'm looking into a pre-req that I didn't have installed
[07:13] <snapfractalpop> I needed the libgnome-keyring-dev package.. now it seems to have compiled with npm install
[07:19] <snapfractalpop> does anyone know where Brave dev discussion takes place?
[07:21] <Myrtti> snapfractalpop: looks like it's not in freenode, judging from alis output
[07:21] <snapfractalpop> Myrtti: thanks. I fear such
[07:21] <snapfractalpop> feared*
[07:21] <Infern0> I have an extremely annoying resolution issue right now. I simply cannot get my resolution to fit my display properly. In the past I used an over/underscan feature with arrows to make a custom resolution but the nvidia driver I'm currently using doesn't seem to have that damn option.
[07:21] <snapfractalpop> I can't seem to find where discussion happens
[07:23] <snapfractalpop> Infern0: I used to use one with an ati card..
[07:24] <snapfractalpop> also, as a workaround, when I use xfce (and gnome 2) I placed empty panels around the screen as a workaround
[07:24] <snapfractalpop> still, then I'd lose the edges on fullscreen
[07:24] <Infern0> snapfractalpop What do you do if the driver you have doesn't offer it?
[07:24] <Infern0> I currently am using xfce myself
[07:25] <snapfractalpop> Infern0: you could try the panels thing.. though it's pretty hacky..
[07:25] <Infern0> =\
[07:25] <snapfractalpop> it is a workaround for sure
[07:25] <snapfractalpop> basically, just until you figure something else out.. you can create panels
[07:25] <Infern0> it does have an over or underscan option but only values not the arrows and even if I miss a little screen I'm okay but I seem to be missing the screen itself it doesn't just make it fit
[07:26] <snapfractalpop> I imagine the tv / monitor doesn't have a "just scan" option?
[07:26] <Infern0> I'd like it fixed so I can play games on steam in peace lol
[07:26] <snapfractalpop> or that you've exhausted those kinds of options?
[07:27] <Infern0> it's limited in regards to options with my tv itself
[07:27] <snapfractalpop> what are the specs of the tv?
[07:27] <Infern0> but the graphics card should support it I've done it in the past I didn't think it was only the windows version of the driver but it has been a while
[07:27] <bobdobbs> When I log in, a whole bunch of programs start up that I don't want to start. How can I stop them from starting?
[07:28] <Infern0> I'm not sure the specs let me check
[07:28] <snapfractalpop> is it 1920x1080?
[07:28] <Infern0> it wants to run 1920x1080 but im missing screen it's slightly too large
[07:28] <bobdobbs> I googled on how to control startup programmes, but all of the posted solutions I found require the user to be running gnome. I'm running kde.
[07:29] <bobdobbs> It's kind of annoying. All those blogs post things titled: "how to do x in ubuntu". But what they really mean is "how to use gnome on ubuntu to do x"
[07:29] <snapfractalpop> Infern0: I take your meaning as the pixels at the edge are off the screen, and there are no black areas?
[07:29] <Infern0> correct
[07:30] <snapfractalpop> yes, this was my problem too
[07:30] <Infern0> my mouse can go where I can't see lol
[07:30] <snapfractalpop> that's why the panels help a little..
[07:30] <snapfractalpop> they push the normal windows back onto the screen..
[07:30] <snapfractalpop> however, it's not ideal
[07:31] <snapfractalpop> you lose resolution for one thing, but more importantly, it doesn't work for true fullscreen applications
[07:31] <Infern0> well it took a while to get this far because with the generic drivers I tried a bad resolution my screen couldn't do, had to ctrl+alt+F1 and manually install the latest nvidia driver then reboot.
[07:31] <Infern0> But now I have this issue
[07:31] <snapfractalpop> bobdobbs: surely there must be info on some blogs about kde startup programs..?
[07:32] <snapfractalpop> Infern0: do you currently have the lastest nvidia drivers?
[07:32] <bobdobbs> snapfractalpop: I did find one article actually. But the solution was outdated.
[07:32] <snapfractalpop> there might be a command then to adjust overscan
[07:32] <Infern0> I was just thinking I should check that because I used one off a blog that might not be up to date one moment
[07:33] <snapfractalpop> Infern0: this was the command for my radeon 6450: sudo aticonfig --set-pcs-val=MCIL,DigitalHDTVDefaultUnderscan,6
[07:33] <snapfractalpop> there might be something like that for nvidia
[07:34] <bobdobbs> snapfractalpop: at the moment when I open the desktop environment, gimp, inkscape, docky, docker and a bunch of
[07:34] <bobdobbs> otther things start
[07:35] <Infern0> yes I am using the latest driver
[07:35] <snapfractalpop> Infern0: there's a question about it here: http://askubuntu.com/questions/271715/how-can-i-get-my-nvidia-overscan-setting-to-work-on-start-up-ubuntu-12-10
[07:35] <snapfractalpop> not sure if that will help... but it might be worth trying some stuff
[07:36] <snapfractalpop> I will recommend to heavily research any command that requires sudo before pressing enter..
[07:36] <snapfractalpop> just better safe than sorry.. you know
[07:36] <snapfractalpop> bobdobbs: that sounds like a lot
[07:36] <bobdobbs> iknowright
[07:36] <snapfractalpop> is that a laptop?
[07:37] <bobdobbs> no
[07:37] <snapfractalpop> sure it's not suspending?
[07:37] <snapfractalpop> hm..
[07:37] <snapfractalpop> what distro?
[07:37] <bobdobbs> ubuntu 14.04
[07:37] <snapfractalpop> but you said it was kde?
[07:37] <bobdobbs> actually, might be 16.0something. I'll check
[07:38] <bobdobbs> yep. ubuntu 14.04
[07:38] <snapfractalpop> bobdobbs: that's not how it should start by default..
[07:38] <Infern0> I seem to have fixed it
[07:38] <bobdobbs> snapfractalpop: it's certainly not what I want to happen upon start
[07:38] <snapfractalpop> Infern0: great! :)
[07:39] <Infern0> 1920x1080 resolution with 50 underscan seems to be perfect
[07:39] <snapfractalpop> Infern0: what was it?
[07:39] <snapfractalpop> nice!
[07:39] <snapfractalpop> Infern0: now, to make it persist!
[07:39] <Infern0> mine will be automatic
[07:39] <snapfractalpop> and write down what you did elsewhere too, in case an update wipes it
[07:39] <Infern0> the latest nvidia driver lets you save the configuration to the xfile
[07:40] <snapfractalpop> bobdobbs: isn't there a startup folder / menu or something?
[07:40] <snapfractalpop> could be in settings, or scripted somewhere.
[07:40] <Infern0> thanks for the help
[07:40] <snapfractalpop> bobdobbs: did you install this yourself?
[07:40] <snapfractalpop> Infern0: NP
[07:40] <snapfractalpop> glad it worked out
[07:40] <bobdobbs> snapfractalpop: I'm sure there are settings or scripts somewhere. I'm just not sure where to look
[07:40] <bobdobbs> snapfractalpop: the OS? Yes, I installed myself.
[07:41] <bobdobbs> I also unstalled those applications myself.
[07:41] <bobdobbs> I guess I could purge them. But I might want to keep docker. I just dont want it to start up every time I log in.
[07:41] <Infern0> I was getting sick and tired of this issue and this is all I came up with before fixing it just now: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IVpOyKCNZYw
[07:41] <bobdobbs> docky I could purge happily
[07:41] <snapfractalpop> Infern0: the xfile might get overwritten next time you update via the repos.. I don't know if the nvidia drivers have a way to re-fix it again after that
[07:42] <snapfractalpop> bobdobbs: those applications are great
[07:42] <snapfractalpop> it's worth finding out why they are starting up
[07:42] <snapfractalpop> IMO
[07:42] <bobdobbs> snapfractalpop: well, I'm using cairo-dock. So I don't need docky. I'm purging it now.
[07:42] <snapfractalpop> I mean gimp, inkscape and the like
[07:43] <snapfractalpop> Infern0: classic!
[07:43] <snapfractalpop> haha
[07:43] <ducasse> bobdobbs: look under ~/.config/autostart
[07:43] <bobdobbs> oh yeah. I use gimp every day, and inkscape at least once a week. But again... I just don't want them to start automatically when I log in.
[07:43] <Infern0> snap I don't think so because new versions of ubuntu no longer use an xorg.conf file which my driver created. You are able to make one, but only to fix issues like this.
[07:43] <bobdobbs> ducasse: thanks. looking...
[07:43] <snapfractalpop> bobdobbs: I don't blame you
[07:44] <bobdobbs> ducasse: I see two files there: docky.desktop and shutter.desktop. I'm removed them both
[07:45] <ducasse> bobdobbs: what desktop environment are you using?
[07:45] <bobdobbs> ducasse: KDE
[07:45] <ducasse> bobdobbs: then look under .kde too, there might be something there.
[07:46] <snapfractalpop> Infern0: ah, well that is nice to know
[07:46] <snapfractalpop> me being paranoid, I'd probably keep a copy somewhere in my home folder just in case..
[07:47] <snapfractalpop> bobdobbs: I still find it unusual that these would be starting up on their own in a vanilla install
[07:47] <bobdobbs> me neither
[07:47] <snapfractalpop> then again, I've been off vanilla for quite some time..
[07:49] <bobdobbs> ok. there's a thing: 'system settings'->'autostart'. Supposedly this shows services that are set to start automatically. But it doesn't list anything when I check it.
[07:50] <bobdobbs> also there is ~/.kde/Autostart. I emptied it earlier, but it only had an entry for 'kde.desktop'.
[07:51] <snapfractalpop> bobdobbs: another angle you could use in your "investigation" of this issue is pstree
[07:51] <snapfractalpop> on the command line, you can type pstree while those programs are running.. it may tell you something about what launched them.. (possibly)
[07:52] <bobdobbs> oh yeah. pstree shows me even more programs that run on startup that I want to die
[07:52] <bobdobbs> there's a vmware process that I don't need to use.
[07:52] <bobdobbs> I guess that that's what docker is running on
[07:52] <snapfractalpop> bobdobbs: did you get the disk for the vanilla install yourself?
[07:52] <snapfractalpop> and you checked it's hash?
[07:52] <amr_>  if you please can help me with problem with my laptop internal mic lenovo b50-70
[07:53] <bobdobbs> snapfractalpop: this doesn't have anything to do with the initial install. These are programms that I've installed myself at some point.
[07:53] <snapfractalpop> ah
[07:53] <snapfractalpop> whew
[07:53] <snapfractalpop> I misunderstood.
[07:54] <amr_> i tried to solve the inverted mic problem many ways (upgrading kernel - install latest ALSA - Manipulating alsa settings - mixer ) no result
[07:55] <amr_> my laptop internal mic is not working with skype or faceook
[07:56] <amr_> if anyone knows how to make mic work i have ubuntu 16.04 updated to mainstream kernel 4.6
[07:56] <rhagu> Hi I have several file (approx. 40 GB each) and need to transfer them over a VPN connection, which is rather unstable. How would you do that? I am looking for something like torrent at the moment.
[07:57] <amr_> i have found that there maybe kernel patch to solve this issue but i want to know how ??!!
[07:58] <snapfractalpop> bobdobbs: anything found if you run  initctl list
[07:58] <OerHeks> amr_, that lenovo mic works on 1 channel, right? only right, not left, and if you use both channels, it won work ( like skype with auto sound )
[07:59] <snapfractalpop> rhagu: you can use transmission
[07:59] <bobdobbs> snapfractalpop: a lot of things are listed. But not inkscape or gimp or docker
[07:59] <bobdobbs> ... or vmware
[07:59] <snapfractalpop> bobdobbs: I wouldn't have thought.. but anything in there that might startup other things?
[08:00] <snapfractalpop> bobdobbs: I know enough to know that that's a lot I don't know
 trying to make one channel work by using PAVU not working even for skype
[08:00] <snapfractalpop> bobdobbs: there's lots of little nooks and crannys where things can be placed (like "hooks") to start things up
[08:00] <OerHeks> you can turn that off in skype > http://askubuntu.com/questions/695135/microphone-not-working-correctly-on-lenovo-b50 https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/alsa-driver/+bug/1524215
[08:01] <snapfractalpop> amr_: does amixer or alsamixer show anything?
[08:02] <rhagu> snapfractalpop thanks, I will have a look at it
[08:02] <snapfractalpop> rhagu: you're welcome
[08:03] <rhagu> snapfractalpop can I create those torrents with transmission?
[08:03] <snapfractalpop> rhagu: is it something you want to keep private?
[08:03] <rhagu> yes
[08:03] <r00t_> wow
[08:03] <amr_> snapfractalpop alsamixer shows regular settings
[08:03] <amr_> nothing specific
[08:04] <snapfractalpop> rhagu: you should be able to use transmission
[08:04] <ducasse> rhagu: you could also look at rsync
[08:04] <snapfractalpop> but I will disclose that I have not done so myself
[08:04] <snapfractalpop> if you are just transferring to one other place, rsync is probably better
[08:05] <snapfractalpop> the man page has some examples
 alsamixer changing mic levels is not working either
[08:05] <snapfractalpop> there are switches to preseve permissions and such
[08:06] <rhagu> ducasse snapfractalpop but how well does rsync handle failed connections?  I think transmission sounds nice, but I probably need to set up a tracker
[08:06] <snapfractalpop> amr_: I don't know.. make sure you check all the options in alsamixer.. in case theres some that aren't visible right away
 i have been trying to fix that issue since 14.04 and i think kernel patching is the only solution
[08:06] <snapfractalpop> rhagu: you can resume
[08:06] <snapfractalpop> it will only transfer what wasn't sent last time
[08:07] <ducasse> rhagu: it's easy to recover from a failed connection with rsync, you just restart and it will handle the rest.
[08:07] <snapfractalpop> amr_: you may be right.. I just wanted to point out alsamixer because sometimes the regular gui hides things
 i can send you screenshot of alsamixer - pav and everything all i need is to get that stupid error solver
[08:07] <rhagu> ducasse I will give it a try
[08:07] <snapfractalpop> amr_: is this a known issue?
[08:08] <amr_> yes
[08:08] <ducasse> rhagu: take a look at the man page to make sure you use the right options for your case.
[08:08] <snapfractalpop> if there is a patch specifically for that issue, it may be worth patching
 i don't know how to patch
[08:08] <amr_> i think there is
[08:09] <snapfractalpop> but you'd need the disk space for the kernel source, and the build tools, and such
 no problem i will do whatever it takes that's the only reason why i keep windows on my pc
[08:09] <snapfractalpop> amr_: there are a couple of kinds of patches, but whatever mailing list or whatever that it's listed in probably has the type of patch mentioned
[08:10] <snapfractalpop> then you can use the patch command to splice the lines of code and compile the module
[08:10] <snapfractalpop> amr_: I run linux on chromebook and had to deal with a lot of patches because of that
[08:11] <snapfractalpop> learned way more than I intended to, but it's cool, because I'm glad I learned it
if you can help me by a tutorial link or anything
[08:11] <snapfractalpop> amr_: I can try .. can you send me a link to the patch you are talking about?
https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/linux/+bug/1529624
that lenovo model has the same mic that of b50-70
[08:16] <ducasse> amr_: that bug link says 'fix released'. i'd rather get the fixed package, so you don't need to rebuild the kernel every time there is an update.
[08:16] <snapfractalpop> amr_: it seems from that thread that the fix is released
[08:16] <snapfractalpop> you don't need to patch
[08:16] <OerHeks> amr_, that post gives patched kernels in proposed what is your kernel now? open terminal: uname -a
[08:16] <snapfractalpop> ducasse: JINX
[08:16] <snapfractalpop> haha
 Linux amr-laptop 4.6.0-040600-generic #201605151930
[08:17] <snapfractalpop> amr_: have you updated recently?
[08:18] <OerHeks> oh, fay beyond 4.4.0-4.19 ..
[08:18] <OerHeks> c/far
 yes i updated kernel to latest mainstream kernel hope that will solve it
[08:18] <snapfractalpop> amr_: hm.. and it was a regression then?
[08:18] <OerHeks> i think that patch for, b50-80 is not for your b50-60
  but nothing happened now internal mic is not detected (unplugged) in PAVU
  yes
[08:19] <snapfractalpop> amr_: do you mean to say, before, it was detected, but not working properly, and with mainstream kernel, it is undetected?
 yes exactly before was detected working with audacity only not skype or facebook or hangouts
 now it's unplugged and not working in audacity or anywhere
[08:22] <snapfractalpop> amr_: yours is E50-60?
 my model is b50-70 and i don't know but the problem was the same (phase inversion)
[08:22] <ubuntuguy> I created a single partition on the entire hard drive and installed ubuntu on that
 b50-70
[08:22] <landon1> single partition.. do you have a swap partition?
[08:22] <ubuntuguy> How do I install Windows without disrupting the ubuntu installation?
[08:22] <ubuntuguy> landon1: Yep that too, of course
[08:23] <snapfractalpop> ubuntuguy: you can use gparted to resize the partition
[08:23] <snapfractalpop> make a partition to put windows on it
[08:23] <landon1> use gparted to resize, install windows on blank partition. use live-cd to reinstall grub and update grub
[08:23] <ubuntuguy> What? Like I mean without uninstalling and repartitioning
[08:24] <ubuntuguy> Well, can you provide me with a link??
[08:24] <snapfractalpop> ubuntuguy: you don't have to uninstall, but you do have to repartition
[08:24] <snapfractalpop> unless you want to use virtualbox
[08:24] <SwedeMike> ubuntuguy: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WindowsDualBoot
[08:24] <snapfractalpop> amr_: hm.. that sounds annoying..
[08:24] <OerHeks> ubuntuguy, really, installing windows without repartitioning?
[08:24] <snapfractalpop> amr_: I assume you kept the old kernel?
[08:24] <OerHeks> ubuntuguy, we advise to install windows, THEN install ubuntu.
[08:24] <ubuntuguy> snapfractalpop: I can repartition even the partition on which ubuntu is installed?
 then
[08:25] <snapfractalpop> ubuntuguy: yes
[08:25] <snapfractalpop> well.. resize it
 i may reinstall everything if there is a solution
[08:25] <SwedeMike> ubuntuguy: you have to resize the file system first though, then you can change the partition. Some tools do this automatically.
[08:25] <snapfractalpop> and create a new partition from the unallocated space
[08:25] <ubuntuguy> cool ok
[08:25] <ubuntuguy> Thanks
 just tell me what to do then and i will reinstall ubuntu no problem
 this problem is annoying to me and as i told the only reason i'm keeping windows on my laptop
[08:27] <snapfractalpop> amr_: I am not an expert in these things... I can just say that you may be on the road to success.. I just can't say how long the road is, or whether you will run out of gas.. or whatever..
[08:27] <snapfractalpop> amr_: that is frustrating
[08:28] <ducasse> amr_: you could try the kernel in -proposed, but if it's not for your model it might not help.
[08:28] <snapfractalpop> amr_: you could try making your own patch at your own risk.. by just adding a line with your model name
[08:28] <amr_> ok tell me how
[08:29] <snapfractalpop> amr_: I have done things like that (super hacky) with surprising success
[08:29] <CRzz> Hi, have there been any updates for the issue with usb bt HID tongles recently?
 ok tell me how to do that and i will try
[08:30] <snapfractalpop> amr_: this will be a little bit of the blind leading the blind, but I'll give it a shot
[08:30] <snapfractalpop> first.. do you see the directory that the realtek.c file is in?
  realtek.c in kernel source you mean or where ???
[08:32] <snapfractalpop> basically, you have to get the kernel source, and the source for the module in question
  i will download kerenel source now
[08:34] <snapfractalpop> amr_: make sure it's for the kernel that recognized your mic
[08:34] <snapfractalpop> because whatever that regression was could be a whole new issue
 i'm downloading it from kernel.org is that ok ???
[08:36] <ducasse> snapfractalpop: wouldn't it be easiest to get the kernel source from proposed, add the model number to that, then rebuild?
[08:36] <somsip> wifi over LAN with a <5ms ping increases hugely as soon as any load is put on the target server. I'm relatively clueless on wifi and have got nowhere in 2 hours, so what's obvious to look at
[08:36] <snapfractalpop> ducasse: possibly.. but he's saying that the newest kernel doesn't even recognize his mic anymore
[08:37] <snapfractalpop> amr_: ducasse actually, it will be helpful to have the diff of the module between those versions
[08:38] <ducasse> snapfractalpop: that's a problem, since he would need to stay on that kernel version. would probably be better to add a comment to the bug report to get it added there.
 i have now kernel 4.4 downloaded and extracted
[08:39] <snapfractalpop> also, the model number also has some hex codes.. not sure what he would put there
 tell me then what to do
[08:40] <snapfractalpop> do you have the module source?
[08:41] <snapfractalpop> (where the patch was applied in the thread)?
 did you read that thread i have a little knowledge regarding patching
[08:43] <snapfractalpop> amr_: I didn't see an actual patch file, but essentially, it's just adding / removing lines of code
[08:43] <snapfractalpop> the lines with a "+" get added
[08:43] <snapfractalpop> lines with a "-" get removed
[08:44] <snapfractalpop> the "@@" tells you where in the file to go to find those lines
[08:44] <snapfractalpop> and some extra lines around the added / removed ones are provided for context
[08:45] <snapfractalpop> those are left as is
[08:48] <snapfractalpop> you could do this manually (which in this case seems appropriate as you will be changing the file further anyway)
[08:49] <snapfractalpop> but usually, you have a patch file that looks a bit like what is posted after the diff --git line and use the patch command to do the work for you
[08:50] <snapfractalpop> once you have made the modifications, you can try to compile it
[08:50] <snapfractalpop> you may want to try to compile it before making any modifications just so you know that you can
[08:52] <flux242> hi, freshly installed ubuntu 16.04 base system boots into tty7 instead of tty1, why is that?
[08:53] <snapfractalpop> flux242: it's my vague understanding that tty1 and tty7 were somehow linked..
[08:53] <jatt> X always starts on tty7 by default no?
[08:53] <flux242> no x
[08:53] <flux242> installed
[08:53] <snapfractalpop> when I have x, I never use tty1
[08:54] <snapfractalpop> I always start with tty2 because tty1 seems to have issues where it's seems tied up with tty7 .. (or something like that)
[08:54] <OerHeks> flux242, so how do you install ubuntu base system?
[08:54] <Ben64> flux242: how did you install
[08:54] <flux242> mini cd
[08:55] <OerHeks> mini cd without any package/desktop, sounds oke to boot in tty7. only server boots in tty1
[08:56] <snapfractalpop> OerHeks: are they linked somehow?
[08:56] <flux242> it wasnt that way before 16.04
[08:56] <OerHeks> snapfractalpop, with mini he installed lightdm, AFAIK
[08:57] <jatt> what does
[08:57] <jatt> ps aux | grep tty
[08:57] <jatt> say (use pastebin)
[08:57] <snapfractalpop> OerHeks: what I mean is, I vaguely remember having issues with tty1 when I had issues with X, even though it's used on tty7
[08:57] <OerHeks> flux242, what DM > dpkg -l | awk '$2 ~ /dm$/'
[08:58] <snapfractalpop> so I always jump to tty2 from X, when I need it..
[08:58] <flux242> no dm, only command line
[08:58] <OerHeks> snapfractalpop, like 'startx' ?
[08:59] <flux242> jatt: tty1 because i only can issue commands if I first switch to tt1
[09:00] <snapfractalpop> OerHeks: idk.. I guess
[09:00] <flux242> no my understanding any desktop task should switch to tty7 otherwise it should stay with tty1
[09:00] <snapfractalpop> I know there was some weirdness with arch switching to tty1..
[09:01] <OerHeks> only if you install ubuntu-server tru mini iso, it will start with tty1
[09:02] <OerHeks> so if you *really* want a base system, use ubuntu server, not the mini iso
[09:03] <greyhuh> I'm trying to setup a amd64 xenial install via preseed but it keeps failing cause of missing i386 pacakges. any idea why an amd64 install needs i386 packages?
[09:03] <snapfractalpop> I just use tmux and don't care what tty I'm in
[09:04] <snapfractalpop> amr_: you still patching?
[09:05] <KeyboardNotFound> I have two video cards, how can I select which one to use and how to disable the other one ?
[09:05] <flux242> OerHeks: with mini iso one can select server task to install
[09:06] <flux242> i din't because i do not know what packages it will add
[09:06] <flux242> tasksel doesn't tell me for some reason
[09:07] <snapfractalpop> flux242: I think in tasksel if you select the "additional things" option or whatever it's called, it puts you in aptitude or something like that
[09:07] <snapfractalpop> I remember being able to see what packages were selected before installing
[09:07] <flux242> tasksel --task-packages server
[09:08] <coin3d> hello there. i'm trying to run xorg on ubuntu server 16.04, but it fails all the time with permission errors - e.g. although my user is part of the tty group, it cannot access /dev/tty* and fails therefore with an xf86openconsole error
[09:08] <flux242> it just says: server^
[09:09] <OerHeks> coin3d, how do you run xorg on your server, installed a DE?
[09:09] <coin3d> OerHeks: actually, i only want to run kodi without all the other packages
[09:09] <coin3d> thats why i thought its a good idea to use ubuntu server
[09:10] <snapfractalpop> flux242: what if you check the server from the "gui" and also select manual package selection?
[09:11] <flux242> snapfractalpop: don't know. I won't be reinstalling just to figure out if this is the installed bug or something
[09:11] <flux242> installer bug^
[09:11] <snapfractalpop> flux242: I got the same server^ thing too
[09:11] <OerHeks> there must be a kodi manual somewhere, kodi needs a desktop environment, or at least videodrivers and xinit https://trick77.com/how-to-install-kodi-ubuntu-server-14-04
[09:11] <snapfractalpop> odd behavior
[09:12] <flux242> mini iso selects by default only "standard system utilities". One can select additional tasks but I didn't
[09:12] <coin3d> OerHeks: right, I exactly did whats written in that tutorial, but I suppose something has changed on the permissions with 16.04
[09:13] <flux242> I know how to solve it by reconfiguring grub but this wasn't my question
[09:14] <flux242> i always used mini iso's before and never had this strange behaviour
[09:14] <snapfractalpop> flux242: what I meant was, as a workaround to trying to find what packages are in the server task selection.. it might be possible to run tasksel without any options, and selecting both "server" and "manual package selection" which should then put you in aptitude, from which you may see what server packages it selected.
[09:15] <snapfractalpop> I always liked the mini approach as well..
[09:15] <snapfractalpop> install just what you need, and nothing more
[09:16] <flux242> no, actually you shouldn't select any additional task. You first install bere minimum then you disable recommends in apt and only then you can install dm
[09:17] <flux242> otherwise ubuntu will install all that recommended sht
[09:19] <snapfractalpop> flux242: on the other hand, there are scenarios where I don't mind having a large selection of packages even if some I wont use, as disk space is cheap. as long as they aren't using other system resources, disk usage of packages is negligible these days
[09:19] <snapfractalpop> ubuntustudio is a good example
[09:20] <flux242> it's not about space, it's about dependencies. The less sht you have installed the more robust is your system
[09:20] <snapfractalpop> but for a server.. or vm, or whatever, you want it lean as possible
[09:20] <snapfractalpop> yeah
[09:21] <snapfractalpop> I'm just saying I like that we have all these optinos
[09:21] <snapfractalpop> options*
[09:21] <OerHeks> grinn, flux242 so why don't you install your DE and go on with your life?
[09:21] <flux242> OerHeks: you have problem with that?
[09:21] <juanonymous> how do i configure vpn on unbuntu
[09:21] <juanonymous> and where do i find free vpn?
[09:22] <OerHeks> !openvpn | juanonymous
[09:22] <snapfractalpop> woah.. free vpn? does that exist? would you trust it?
[09:23] <MonkeyDust> snapfractalpop  some people don't trust linux because it's free
[09:23] <Darmoktalk> It's a multistep process, you need to setup openvpn. The only free VPNs I know of are those p2p browser plugin ones
[09:23] <snapfractalpop> MonkeyDust: but you can inspect the code
[09:23] <juanonymous> is it paid?
[09:23] <MonkeyDust> snapfractalpop  true
[09:23] <Darmoktalk> And yea, I wouldn't trust a VPN I'm not paying for
[09:23] <snapfractalpop> MonkeyDust: if I can inspect the vpn servers, that's pretty much defeating the purpose
[09:24] <flux242> MonkeyDust: some people dont' trust ubuntu because its canonical
[09:24] <OerHeks> juanonymous, we don't deal vpn accounts, find your own one
[09:25] <juanonymous> i want to hide my ip to users from skype
[09:25] <juanonymous> by using skype ip resolvers
[09:25] <Ben64> oh it's you again
[09:26] <snapfractalpop> amr_: hope the patching is working out..
[09:26] <snapfractalpop> gotta go afk
[09:26] <snapfractalpop> amr_: if you read this later, you want to probably make config the module, and then run make
[09:27] <snapfractalpop> then put the binaries in the appropriate places and cross your fingers
[09:28] <snapfractalpop> peace
[09:29] <amr_> finished installing build essentials
 finished installing build essentials
 then
 then???????
[09:30] <Ben64> he's gone
[09:33] <OerHeks> as https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Kernel/Compile is down, https://web.archive.org/web/20160424151125/https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Kernel/BuildYourOwnKernel
[09:33] <OerHeks> err https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Kernel/BuildYourOwnKernel is down
[09:35] <chronotr> crash unity after change theme gtk, when minimize corebird (ubuntu 16.04)
[09:38] <OerHeks> chronotr, try again from start, if it crashes again, file a bugreport
[09:39] <landon1> is the KDE desktop snappy yet?
[09:39] <OerHeks> chronotr, i see lots of issues in https://github.com/baedert/corebird/issues and there is a #corebird channel here on #freenode too
[09:41] <chronotr> DerHeks, thank you
[09:46]  * iptable googles corebird
[09:46] <iptable> oh
[09:46] <bazhang> !info corebird | iptable
[09:47] <iptable> addiction fix client, got that
[09:47] <Bill_Gates> I got to know /opt folder can be used by all users (including guest), but I think that's read only for guests. How to provide priviledges (rw)??
[09:48] <iptable> Bill_Gates, not a good idea, but chmod 777 /opt will give it all rwx permissions. May I ask why?
[09:49] <MonkeyDust> iptable  you tell him how to do it, then you say not to do it
[09:50] <OerHeks> obvious, because his name is bill gates, MonkeyDust ..
[09:50] <Bill_Gates> Need to provide storage space to anonymous user while using guest!
[09:50] <iptable> MonkeyDust, he asked how, so I answered, and then gave an opinion on what he is trying to achieve.
[09:50] <Bill_Gates> Suggest any other method?
[09:51] <EriC^^> Bill_Gates: can the guest use /tmp?
[09:51] <iptable> Bill_Gates, storage space in /opt? What do you mean guest? Basically, is the user using ftp/ssh/other to gain access?
[09:51] <EriC^^> i think it's pretty locked down
[09:52] <EriC^^> Bill_Gates: the guest already gets disk space in his home dir in /tmp/guest-something
[09:52] <EriC^^> just tried it
[09:52] <iptable> Bill_Gates, just trying to understand what you are attempting to achieve. For example, using ssh, the user would store data in their /home directory. Using ftp, you can configure storage location, etc.
[09:53] <EriC^^> Bill_Gates: it disappears once he logs out and the data is gone
[09:53] <Bill_Gates> ya that's the problem
[09:53] <Guest15501> Jota: hi
[09:53] <Bill_Gates> That's why!
[09:53] <iptable> Bill_Gates, guest user of what? I'm still trying to figure that one out.
[09:54] <EriC^^> iptable: guest account ont he pc
[09:54] <EriC^^> Bill_Gates: heh, i even did a touch /tmp/bla from guest and it somehow disappeared after logging out
[09:55] <iptable> Bill_Gates, https://help.ubuntu.com/community/CustomizeGuestSession
[09:55] <Bill_Gates> got some chance on /opt.
[09:55] <EriC^^> Bill_Gates: i'm trying mkdir /bla && chmod 777 /bla
[09:55] <iptable> Bill_Gates, https://help.ubuntu.com/community/CustomizeGuestSession - that is the best end-to-end information on how to do it.
[09:55] <EriC^^> to see how it'll go
[09:55] <OerHeks> make an user guest/ pass guest ?
[09:55] <Bill_Gates> what's 777 for??
[09:56] <iptable> Bill_Gates, all read, all write, all execute
[09:56] <Bill_Gates> even for guest??
[09:56] <iptable> Bill_Gates, 7 = owner user, owner group and all others have full access.
[09:56] <EriC^^> Bill_Gates: nope, it can't write, permission denied
[09:57] <Bill_Gates> 777?
[09:57] <iptable> Bill_Gates, do check that link I sent you though, it explains how to do it in details
[09:57] <EriC^^> it's locked down with apparmor i guess
[09:57] <EriC^^> yes
[09:57] <OerHeks> iptable +1
[09:58] <EriC^^> link says to use sudo mkdir -m 0777 /var/guest-data
[09:58] <iptable> Bill_Gates, it's a binary thing. 7 = 111. So 777 = 111 111 111. It's read, write execute. 1 means yes, and other is: user,group,all. So 111 111 111 = read, write, execute permission for dir owner user, group and all others.
[09:59] <iptable> EriC^^, it also says to great a special guest user for the preferences and user creation triggers apparmor profiles. also /var is a more sane location
[09:59] <EriC^^> yeah i dont think the creation is necessary except for other custom stuff
[09:59] <EriC^^> /var/guest.. seems hard-coded and 777 works with it
[10:00] <iptable> EriC^^, true, just suggesting ;) But yay, that's sorted then ;)
[10:01] <EriC^^> it's working to save in /var/tmp btw
[10:01] <iptable> essentially not in /opt as it's a BadIdea(tm). makes sense
[10:05] <DarkBlueShark> hello
[10:08] <EriC^^> hello
[10:09] <DarkBlueShark> I did apt-get upgrade it doesn't give an error but it says the following packages have been kept back (packages name) in the end. What does it mean?
[10:09] <Bill_Gates> "sudo mkdir -m 0777 /var/guest-data" This is the key!
[10:09] <ducasse> DarkBlueShark: use apt-get dist-upgrade
[10:10] <baizon> DarkBlueShark: it means, that this packages wont be upgraded. Which ubuntu version are you using?
[10:10] <Bill_Gates> Did you check that? Though I do not have tried it yet!
[10:11] <circ-user-xYocO> hello guys, I have a question that might be a little noob but I couldn't seem to find anything concrete online
[10:12] <DarkBlueShark> I'm on xubuntu
[10:12] <circ-user-xYocO> I'm currently running Ubuntu 15.10, and was wondering if I have both start scripts in /etc/init.d and also systemd, would the process get run twice?
[10:12] <DarkBlueShark> the newest version idk how to check lol sry im new to Linux
[10:12] <circ-user-xYocO> for example, i noticed redis has start scripts in both systemd and init.d
[10:12] <DarkBlueShark> why won't the packages be upgraded?
[10:12] <Bill_Gates> Eric^^ "sudo mkdir -m 0777 /var/guest-data" This is the key!
[10:12] <circ-user-xYocO> so would redis be started twice?
[10:12] <baizon> DarkBlueShark: cat /etc/lsb-release
[10:14] <EriC^^> Bill_Gates: yes, check the link iptable gave for loads of other stuff
[10:15] <Bill_Gates> Eric^^ Btw if you look at point 1,2 for Hooks facilitate customization on https://help.ubuntu.com/community/CustomizeGuestSession, that means contents of /etc can be accessed through guest
[10:16] <Bill_Gates> You can use it for persist storage though ! If I got it correct !!
[10:17] <Bill_Gates> Or I think its read only probably!
[10:20] <_kmh_> hi
[10:20] <_kmh_> big channel
[10:20] <MonkeyDust> _kmh_  type   /topic
[10:21] <_kmh_> i'm trying to get lsb-core to work on 16.04
[10:22] <_kmh_> it seems contrary to 14.04 than is not in the normal package list
[10:22] <OerHeks> _kmh_, known issue ( with chrome)
[10:22] <_kmh_> and 16.04 essentially just has lsb-base and lasb-release
[10:22] <MonkeyDust> !info lsb-core trusty
[10:23] <MonkeyDust> !info lsb-core
[10:23] <iptable> Bill_Gates, if guest cannot see /etc, they cannot exist. some important stuff is there, like resolv.conf so their browser knows which nameservers to query
[10:23] <_kmh_> OerHeks, well it is not just affecting but probably pretty any 3rd party installation relying on the lsb package
[10:23] <_kmh_> ubottu,  i'm not that
[10:23] <iptable> Bill_Gates, users normally cannot write to /etc
[10:23] <_kmh_> my question is whether there is any way to get it
[10:24] <MonkeyDust> Bill_Gates  what is your end goal?
[10:24] <iptable> MonkeyDust, make linux into windows!
[10:24] <Bill_Gates> true
[10:24] <MonkeyDust> Bill_Gates  then why don't you use windows?
[10:24] <_kmh_> OerHeks, so do you know any workarounds?
[10:25] <_kmh_> other than going back to 14.04 that is :)
[10:25] <kochi_> nick uKi`
[10:26] <Bill_Gates> I'm troubled with two frequent errors on linux!
[10:27] <OerHeks> _kmh_, download them from debian, http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=2306007&p=13405404#post13405404 but try apt-get install -f first!
[10:27] <iptable> lxb is in xenial
[10:27] <iptable> !info lsb
[10:27] <iptable> hmmm
[10:27] <Bill_Gates> ubuntu, i mean, specifically.
[10:27] <OerHeks> it is dropped somehow
[10:28] <MonkeyDust> !info lsb trusty
[10:28] <_kmh_> iptable,  yes but not all of lsb, that's the problem, there's quite a number of lsb packages and while 14.04 did have them they vanished in 16.04 except for two
[10:28] <iptable> so in xenial lsb was deleted as unstable(?)
[10:28] <egsome> Bill_Gates, And the two errors are ?
[10:28] <_kmh_> OerHeks,  ty i'll check that out
[10:29] <iptable> Bill_Gates, what errors?
[10:30] <Bill_Gates> First, there remains some problem with wireless driver, I think. If the system remains quite for a while, the wireless networks are not detected!
[10:30] <Bill_Gates> Enen after several switch off/on s
[10:30] <Bill_Gates> *Eve
[10:30] <Bill_Gates> **Even
[10:31] <iptable> Bill_Gates, so you possibly could have a wireless adapter which doesn't have proper support in linux. Not exactly a linux issue, but your wifi card manufacturer.
[10:31] <iptable> Bill_Gates, second issue?
[10:31] <OerHeks> wonky driver probably, depends on what wifi chip
[10:32] <Alagos> exit
[10:33] <Bill_Gates> No, the networks are yet discovered when actively working but after some situations, the functionality just like hangs up!
[10:33] <Bill_Gates> Like awaking from sleep for a while
[10:34] <OerHeks> Bill_Gates, care to share what wifi device?
[10:34] <OerHeks> lspci -nn -d ::280 # this would show it
[10:36] <Bill_Gates> Lol, now second issue. My mouse pointer gone as I switched between two accounts!
[10:36] <Bill_Gates> Just now!
[10:36] <Bill_Gates> accounts (Ubuntu)
[10:36] <OerHeks> LOL
[10:36] <Bill_Gates> Got a solution??
[10:37] <Bill_Gates> Dis/Enabling the mouse driver may work! Know how to??
[10:37] <Bill_Gates> Mouse (tuchpad)
[10:37] <Bill_Gates> *touchpad
[10:37] <iptable> Bill_Gates, never happened here before. interesting you should have that. can we come back to you sharing your wifi device name with us?
[10:38] <iptable> Bill_Gates, also, you mean the pointer became invisible, or that mouse no longer works?tried logging out of the other account?
[10:38] <iptable> don't go straight into drivers, it's not windows.
[10:38] <_kmh_> OerHeks, what's "apt-get install -f" supposed to do?
[10:38] <Bill_Gates> Yeah, I mean Invisible!
[10:39] <MonkeyDust> _kmh_  -f means fix
[10:39] <_kmh_> MonkeyDust, ok?
[10:40] <Bill_Gates> Cool back now!
[10:40] <iptable> _kmh_, apt-get -f install will try to resolve dependency issues you had when doing dpkg -i to install packages and to finish installing that package
[10:40] <iptable> _kmh_, it's actually pretty sweet
[10:41] <_kmh_> hmm
[10:41] <Bill_Gates> Qualcomm Atheros! And I think its supported!
[10:42] <Ascavasaion> Can someone please tell me what the package name is fore the default games in Ubuntu/Lubuntu.  The minesweeper, solitaire/patience, mahjong, etc.
[10:42] <Bill_Gates> Need complete specs?
[10:42] <Ascavasaion> fore=for
[10:43] <OerHeks> i was afraid to read Qualcomm Atheros .. know for issues
[10:44] <iptable> Bill_Gates, WHICH chipset?
[10:44] <iptable> Bill_Gates, that's like saying you are running a windows. chipset number matters a ot.
[10:44] <iptable> Ascavasaion, you want gnome-games?
[10:45] <Ascavasaion> iptable: Yes please
[10:45] <iptable> Ascavasaion, nono, that's the actual package name
[10:45] <iptable> gnome-games
[10:45] <Ascavasaion> iptable: Thank you :)
[10:45] <OerHeks> gnome-games is optional, not standard installed
[10:47] <iptable> yes, but the "default" games, i.e. the ones that normally come with gnome (which is what the user referred to) is gnome-games package
[10:48] <Ascavasaion> iptable: Correct, I wanted those simple games... much appreciated
[10:49] <iptable> no worries
[10:49] <OerHeks> !info gnome-games-common
[10:49] <OerHeks> hmm
[10:50] <iptable> !info gnome-games
[10:51] <OerHeks> gnome-sudoku & aisleriot & gnome-mines
[10:51] <OerHeks> & gnome-sudoku ofcourse
[10:52] <xangua> And gnome Tetris! ❤
[10:52] <OerHeks> Ascavasaion, you might want to install synaptic, detailed softwarecenter and easy search through games
[10:52] <Bill_Gates> Sorry, I got disconnected. But, 02:00.0 Network controller [0280]: Qualcomm Atheros QCA9565 / AR9565 Wireless Network Adapter [168c:0036] (rev 01)
[10:52] <Ascavasaion> OerHeks: Thank you... much appreciated too.
[10:53] <Bill_Gates> link to the logs for this irc, please?
[10:53] <iptable> Bill_Gates, AR9565 qualcomm is known to have issues. That would be the manufacturer's fault for not doing proper linux support.
[10:54] <OerHeks> !logs
[10:54] <OerHeks> not sure the log is updated this hour
[10:54] <_kmh_> OerHeks, ok seems to have worked out - thanks again
[10:54] <bazhang> top of the hour for updates iirc
[10:54] <OerHeks> _kmh_, have fun!
[10:55] <_kmh_> i don't quite get though why ubuntu has dropped lsb-core and others
[10:56] <OerHeks> debian has dropped it https://lwn.net/Articles/658809/
[10:56] <_kmh_> OerHeks,  ouch that's even worse
[10:57] <Bill_Gates> One more thing I need to disable the tty account for root. How?
[10:57] <Bill_Gates> I created that for some partition mgmt!
[10:58] <OerHeks> there is no root account.
[10:58] <OerHeks> !root
[11:00] <OerHeks> i have no idea how one would disable a service for root.
[11:10] <iptable> DISABLE service for root and all others: find a binary, change permission to non-executable and chattr +i that file to make it immune to change by all including root
[11:10] <iptable> bad idea though
[11:10] <iptable> uninstalling it is easier
[11:11] <iptable> You may set a root password using sudo -i followed by passwd, but that again, is a bad idea
[11:15] <Bill_Gates> uninstall ?
[11:16] <Crackpotmark> you can prevent root tty login by removing the shell entry for root in /etc/shadow yes?
[11:17] <Crackpotmark> or /etc/passwd sorry
[11:21] <somsip> Bill_Gates: http://stackoverflow.com/questions/11700690/how-do-i-completely-remove-root-password
[11:22] <somsip> Bill_Gates: the last comment applies
[11:22] <somsip> Bill_Gates: maybe a more applicable answer http://askubuntu.com/questions/20450/disable-root-account-in-ubuntu
[11:28] <Bill_Gates> Thanks!
[11:29] <Steve_Jobs> Hello Bill_Gates
[11:31] <andrey> Hi
[11:31] <BluesKaj> Howdy all
[11:34] <akik> Crackpotmark: no. read up on /etc/securetty
[11:35] <Bill_Gates> Mode bits to set guest (rwx) priviledges to be enabled ? 0777 doesn't work!
[11:35] <Bill_Gates> just mode bits!
[11:37] <Bill_Gates> https://help.ubuntu.com/community/CustomizeGuestSession says "sudo mkdir -m 0777 /var/guest-data" to provide those but doesn't works !! Can somebody just verify please ??
[11:38] <Twirl> hello, how can i kill all the stopped jobs? tried with sudo kill $(jobs -p) and sudo kill `jobs -p` and sudo jobs -x kill but the command jobs still shows them as stopped
[11:39] <rajiv1> can i use "sudo apt install" instead of "sudo apt-get install" to installing new packages?
[11:40] <MonkeyDust> Twirl  killall -u $(whoami)     will stop everything and log you out
[11:41] <Twirl> MonkeyDust: lol? who said i want to "kill everything and log out" ?
[11:42] <Bill_Gates> https://help.ubuntu.com/community/CustomizeGuestSession says "sudo mkdir -m 0777 /var/guest-data" to provide those but doesn't works !! Can somebody just verify please ??
[11:43] <Bill_Gates> Or is it 7777??????
[11:43] <Bill_Gates> Or is it 7777   ??????
[11:43] <iptable> Bill_Gates, 0777 is fine
[11:43] <iptable> Bill_Gates, 0777 is 777 in permissions. the 0 is for extra bits we will not go into for this excercise
[11:44] <Bill_Gates> Did you verify though?
[11:44] <Bill_Gates> https://help.ubuntu.com/community/CustomizeGuestSession says "sudo mkdir -m 0777 /var/guest-data" to provide those but doesn't works !! Can somebody just verify please ??
[11:44] <Bill_Gates> this!
[11:44] <Bill_Gates> rwx to guest
[11:44] <iptable> Bill_Gates, YES it WORKS
[11:45] <iptable> Bill_Gates, what "doesn't works"?
[11:45] <MonkeyDust> rajiv1  yes
[11:45] <iptable> the command will not display anything, like "thank you, I did it". No messages means it worked. ls -l /var will show you guest-data there and rwx on it
[11:46] <iptable> Bill_Gates, ^
[11:46] <iptable> Bill_Gates, and if you originally ran it with wrong permissions, mkdir again on it won't work. you will have to manually chmod 777 /var/guest-data then
[11:48] <MonkeyDust> rajiv1  apt-get and apt-cache have been replaced by 'apt'
[11:48] <iptable> huh? since when?
[11:48] <iptable> who dares make apt a sane system?
[11:49] <rajiv1> MonkeyDust: using which one is better?
[11:49] <Bill_Gates> i know! But I copied a folder from admin login to that and changed permissions on gui (properties) from access files to rwx for that folder but didn't changed for enclosed files!
[11:50] <MonkeyDust> rajiv1  the one you like more, they do the same thing
[11:50] <iptable> Bill_Gates, 1. change permissions using the commands provided, not on GUI, so we know that worked.
[11:50] <iptable> Bill_Gates, 2. To change permissions to existing files, use chmod -R 777 /var/guest-data
[11:51] <rajiv1> MonkeyDust: So apt only can be used to update the system as well?
[11:51] <MonkeyDust> rajiv1  yes
[11:53] <egsome> How to get the latest Unity 8 release on Ubuntu 16.04 ? According to launchpad, seems latest work on Unity 8 still not released to Ubuntu 16.04 repos !
[11:53] <Bill_Gates> I did all the same. Okay see if a folder copied to the guest-data from admin account that would explicitly require to change permissions as the folder is under admin priviledges! Agree ??
[11:54] <rajiv1> MonkeyDust: what is the difference between "synaptic" and "muon" package managers?
[11:54] <MonkeyDust> egsome  http://www.omgubuntu.co.uk/2016/04/ubuntu-16-04-unity-8-desktop-progress-video
[11:54] <MonkeyDust> rajiv1  iirc, muon is for kde
[11:54] <xangua> egsome: you can install unity 8 if you want, but please understand it's not yet ready for daily use or even usable
[11:55] <egsome> xangua, I did install it, but seems a very buggy version, when talked to people at launchpad, they told version available in 16.04 repos is old and not updated.
[11:55] <egsome> xangua, I accept it is being not stable, just want to test it out and report bugs.
[11:55] <egsome> MonkeyDust, Going to check that.
[11:56] <MonkeyDust> egsome  what xangua says: try it at your own risk, it's not supported here
[11:56] <egsome> MonkeyDust, Going to try ci-train-ppa-service/stable-phone-overlay
[11:57] <Bill_Gates> Lol now, see what the tragedy is if you create a folder from admin side that's unpriviledged for guest and even vice versa is true. Just try it !
[11:59] <todd__> hello
[12:05] <Bill_Gates> Just one thing ! If you can tell, chmod 0777 does'nt applies to all enclosed files. How ti achieve that ??
[12:05] <Bill_Gates> *to
[12:09] <Bill_Gates> iptable : Just one thing ! If you can tell, chmod 0777 does'nt applies to all enclosed files. How ti achieve that ??
[12:10] <iptable> Bill_Gates, as stated before. chmod -R 777
[12:10] <iptable> Bill_Gates, the -R makes a difference. -R = recursive. I have already said that at 12.50.31 UK time
[12:13] <geirha> The dir should be set to 1777, not 777
[12:15] <Bill_Gates> why?
[12:15] <Bill_Gates> btw thanks iptable
[12:15] <geirha> With 777 everyone can remove/overwrite everyone else's files. With 1777, only the owner can modify/remove a file after it's created
[12:16] <iptable> geirha, I think with guest-user the idea is that everyone can.
[12:16] <geirha> that everyone can create files, yes. They can that with 1777
[12:17] <iptable> and delete files
[12:17] <iptable> well, it's up to Bill_Gates
[12:18] <iptable> need to go do some work. later yall
[12:18] <Bill_Gates> Just one more thing, if you can tell, i used dosbox for a dos app on guest and and need to access that folder on that
[12:19] <Bill_Gates> guest-data
[12:19] <Bill_Gates> folder
[12:19] <sveinse> lsblk seems to be unable to read a ext4 label and uuid for primary partition 2 on a USB device, yet dumpe2fs clearly shows both label and UUID for it
[12:19] <Bill_Gates> help just to mount it on that folder !
[12:20] <sveinse> The /etc/fstab on this system thus contains /dev/sda*, which is dangerous on this machine, as new drives will be added
[12:22] <ryneke> can somebody help me with storing a public pgp key in seahorse?
[12:22] <ryneke> i tried importing the .asc file, but when i click import nothing happens...
[12:22] <ducasse> sveinse: can't you use /dev/disk/by-id/whatever-part2 ?
[12:23] <gregf_> hello
[12:23] <EriC^^> hello
[12:24] <gregf_> im running ghostscript on my machine(14.04 LTS) - i've managed to tune gs on my machine
[12:24] <gregf_> we've got an ec instance that uses 12.10 - ghostscript version 9.6. the former runs in 30 seconds(file conversion that is) but the latter takes 10 minutes
[12:26] <sveinse> ducasse: Apparently not. Only the first ext4 partition is shown
[12:26] <Bill_Gates> Can anyone help with dosbox  ??
[12:26] <sveinse> ducasse: And this was the output from the ubuntu 16.04 server installer
[12:27] <ducasse> sveinse: then i suppose the partition table might be screwed up. gpt or mbr?
[12:29] <sveinse> ducasse, dos, not gpt.
[12:31] <ducasse> sveinse: try to run fixparts on the disk, but read the man page first if you're not familiar with it.
[12:33] <sveinse> ducasse: Well, if the parttable is faulty, it might indicate a bug in the 16.04 installer.  The system works with it, except that the 16.04 installer has chosen to use /dev/sd* names on that particular partition. The other partition is ok
[12:34] <Bill_Gates> a simple question how to create links to folders anywhere?
[12:35] <EriC^^> links ln -s /source /link/to/source
[12:35] <hateball> Bill_Gates: ln -s target linkname
[12:36] <sveinse> ducasse: I'm redoing the ubuntu installer once more (third time) with another media
[12:36] <ducasse> sveinse: also check the disk, just to be safe.
[12:37] <sveinse> ducasse: I am using another disk
[12:37] <ducasse> sveinse: ok :)
[12:42] <juanonymous> is it possible that a user with different router could have same ip address?
[12:43] <dark_witcher> hey guys quick question
[12:43] <dark_witcher> running ubuntu mate 16.04
[12:44] <juanonymous> users*
[12:44] <dark_witcher> i want to remove transmission and pidgin but I get that another app will be removed (ubuntu-mate-desktop)
[12:44] <EriC^^> dark_witcher: just leave them
[12:44] <dark_witcher> what is that and should removing it break the system
[12:45] <EriC^^> maybe
[12:51] <blaze24> hi all
[12:53] <EriC^^> hi
[12:54] <blaze24> annyone to give me a little help?
[12:54] <SwedeMike> blaze24: we don't know, you haven't asked any question yet.
[12:55] <blaze24> it's about ubuntu mate 15.10... i first used on usb and sda1... worked perfectlly, but after upgrading to 16.04 i'm having problems
[12:55] <dchapman> dark_witcher: Doesn't compute. MATE is a desktop environment. Transmission is a torrenting application, and pidgin is a communication app. Neither have anything to do with Mate. What command are you using to remove them?
[12:56] <blaze24> what to remove?
[12:56] <ducasse> dark_witcher: it's just a meta-package, doesn't hurt to remove it.
[12:56] <blaze24> i'm having problems with the nvidia driver preinstalled
[12:56] <dark_witcher> dchapman I'm removing it from the app store
[12:57] <blaze24> i think
[12:57] <dark_witcher> ducasse that is what I taught, but I wanted to be sure
[12:57]  * uKi` sunyiiiiiiiiiiii
[12:58] <blaze24> i know that i could get some answers on google... but i hope someone is going to help me here
[13:01] <Dave666> Has anyone here installed Ubuntu to dual boot with OSX? Wondered how difficult it is to set up. I need to use Linux for Eclipse development only, so only a small partition
[13:01] <EriC^^> i've seen it done
[13:02] <EriC^^> with refind it's easy, without it it's a little more involved,
[13:03] <egsome> Dave666, Interested to know, but didn't try it before. And, I think VirtualBox can be an option if just need it for Eclipse.
[13:03] <Dave666> I was looking for someone who's done it, to check on the risks. Don't really want to lose my OSX install as I have loads of stuff installed.
[13:03] <coin3d> can anyone tell me why its no longer possible to run startx as user?
[13:04] <coin3d> with ubuntu 16.04 i mean
[13:04] <SwedeMike> Dave666: why not just run ubuntu virtualised under OSX? Use virtualbox or something?
[13:04] <Dave666> egsome: Yeah, I've considered virtualbox. I'm using Eclipse to do some C++ dev with OpenCV though, so want full performance
[13:04] <EriC^^> Dave666: i've helped a couple people get it up and running, can't really say about later though
[13:04] <Dave666> Ah what the hell, I'll try Virtualbox - cheers :)
[13:06] <egsome> coin3d, Seems still available. Didn't try to run it.
[13:07] <coin3d> egsome: it fails with some permission errors - i first thought it is ubuntu related, but seems like the default behaviour for running xorg without root rights or something like that has changed
[13:07] <egsome> coin3d, What error message do You get  ?
[13:07] <coin3d> egsome: (EE) xf86OpenConsole: Cannot open virtual console 2 (Permission denied)
[13:08] <EriC^^> coin3d: it works here
[13:08] <EriC^^> try DISPLAY=:1 startx unity
[13:09] <egsome> coin3d, According to https://bbs.archlinux.org/viewtopic.php?id=192329, seems reinstalling xorg solved the problem.
[13:12] <coin3d> EriC^^: same error message :(
[13:13] <Aliekezhi-> hi, I'm about to install ubuntu on an Apple Macbook, do I need to do something special ? It's a 64 bits intel CPU, should I use the default ubuntu 64 bits installation ?
[13:14] <EriC^^> !mac | Aliekezhi-
[13:17] <Aliekezhi-> EriC^^, sadly these pages doesn't cover my model, and those for close models are outdated for old ubuntu versions
[13:20] <juanonymous> is there any way to see the true users ip even if he is using a proxy?
[13:20] <rilleh> If you got access to the proxy :)
[13:20] <MonkeyDust> juanonymous  what would be the use of the proxy, then?
[13:21] <vishesh> I've this problem in Unity session,  all custom shortcuts take a lot of time to fire up like a minute.  Probably related, when I start google-chrome from terminal it takes a minute or two to start up as well. Evreything starts in a second in i3-wm session though
[13:22] <juanonymous> because i used proxy to cover my skype but the skype resolver still shows my original ip
[13:22] <vishesh> I've this problem in Unity session,  all custom shortcuts take a lot of time to fire up like a minute.  Probably related, when I start google-chrome from terminal it takes a minute or two to start up as well. Evreything starts in a second in i3-wm session though. Any ideas?
[13:24] <truncate> I've this problem with Unity session. All custom shortcuts take over a minute to fire up. Probably, google-chrome takes like over a minute to start up too. Everything works perfect in i3-wm session though. (Sorry if this message showed up multiple times.)
[13:32] <coin3d> EriC^^: this was how i solved it now: https://www.reddit.com/r/debian/comments/3nz0vz/psa_x_server_is_now_running_as_regular_user/cvsyvny
[13:33] <naghizadeh>  I am trying to install trinityrnaseq, but I see this error. what should I do now?
[13:33] <ooooo> Welcome to #ubuntu !
[13:33] <naghizadeh> mehdi@home-srv:~$ cd "/media/mehdi/New Volume1/trinity/trinityrnaseq-2.2.0 "bash: cd: /media/mehdi/New Volume1/trinity/trinityrnaseq-2.2.0 : No such file or directory
[13:33] <naghizadeh> mehdi@home-srv:~$ cd "/media/mehdi/New Volume1/trinity/trinityrnaseq-2.2.0"
[13:33] <naghizadeh> mehdi@home-srv:/media/mehdi/New Volume1/trinity/trinityrnaseq-2.2.0$ make
[13:33] <naghizadeh> Using gnu compiler for Inchworm and Chrysalis
[13:33] <naghizadeh> cd Inchworm && (test -e configure || autoreconf) \
[13:33] <naghizadeh>                 && sh ./configure --prefix=`pwd`  && make install
[13:34] <ooooo> Dide someone know a good alternative to Wine  ?  I'm looking for better version of Skype , atm on 4.3, and have so much connnexions troubles ! thanks for counsel
[13:35] <rahul_kummi> hello
[13:35] <rahul_kummi> just trying out the irc
[13:35] <naghizadeh> Hi
[13:35] <uKi`> :D
[13:35] <ooooo> C C C C C C COMBO BREAKER
[13:36] <ooooo> M M M  M M M M-MONSTER KILL
[13:36] <MonkeyDust> ooooo  stop
[13:37] <ooooo> MonkeyDust why ? Nobody answer anything !
[13:37] <ducasse> ooooo: still no reason to behave like an idiot.
[13:38] <compdoc> ooooo, install windows in virtualbox
[13:38] <ooooo> ducasse, its true ! Yeah compo, but a vm is not also usefull than a simulate like Wine ))
[13:39] <ooooo> I'll try another way, thanks for help ;)
[13:45] <DocMAX> hi, is there something like "testing" in ubuntu?
[13:45] <DocMAX> to be up to date
[13:46] <th34lch3m1st> hi, dual boot uefi, w10 starts with no choise, but if I chose boot option at startup I can run ubuntu and see start menu options (included windows start). is there a chance to start ubuntu menu at start up?
[13:46] <DocMAX> to enter in the sources.list
[13:46] <MonkeyDust> DocMAX  sudo apt update && sudo apt upgrade
[13:46] <DocMAX> yes
[13:46] <DocMAX> i mean the sources.list
[13:46] <hugo> Guys, i'm using Openbabel, but when I run it, I get a Segmentation fault error. Any fixes?
[13:47] <DocMAX> deb http://de.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu trusty main restricted
[13:47] <th34lch3m1st> manual partitioning, i have chose bootloader on sda (disk, no partition)
[13:47] <DocMAX> deb http://de.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu testing main restricted <-- someting like this
[13:47] <ducasse> DocMAX: no, there's no such thing.
[13:47] <OerHeks> proposed, but you don't want that
[13:47] <DocMAX> deb http://de.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu devel main restricted <-- but this works?
[13:47] <Mikelevel> DocMAX~ devel
[13:48] <DocMAX> but devel is like unstable in debian right?
[13:48] <Mikelevel> yes
[13:48] <DocMAX> i need "testing"
[13:48] <Mikelevel> now its yakkety
[13:49] <ducasse> DocMAX: ubuntu is based on unstable, so there is nothing similar to testing. unless you go for the development release.
[13:49] <Mikelevel> yakkety is 16.10 version .... development branck
[13:49] <Mikelevel> branch
[13:49] <Mikelevel> its like testing/unstable
[13:54] <Bill_Gates> Hey, I created a script file but that fails to run and creates a swap file. Please help
[13:55] <OerHeks> if it fails to run, how does it create a swap?
[13:55] <DocMAX> hey Bill_Gates.. u here in irc?
[13:55] <OerHeks> yeeah, favorite troll DocMAX
[13:55] <DocMAX> what r u doing here?
[13:55] <NP_> hi Dr.Naghizadeh
[13:56] <DocMAX> OerHeks, nice to meet you too
[13:58] <Bill_Gates> The commands embedded in it automatically run on vim !! And btw why swp is created
[13:58] <Bill_Gates> ??
[14:00] <NP_>  سلام
 سییب
 سشیب
 بیبیس
 سیببیس
 سیببسی
[14:00] <OerHeks> eh yes, Bill_Gates, YOU created a script, now asking us why it does what it does. don't show us the script on a pastebin, let us guess?
[14:01] <Bill_Gates> Wait, I'm new to it. Can you just tell me if I need to define the path too for exec those commands
[14:01] <Bill_Gates> path even for default one, I mean?
[14:02] <Bill_Gates> that occurs when terminal run ??
[14:02] <computer> people, if i have an app that works in ubuntu, can it also work in debian?
[14:03] <OerHeks> computer, sure, like chrome or skype
[14:03] <computer> OerHeks: excellent thanks
[14:05] <kunifa> hello. as of version 1.1.90 network manager can use random MAC addresses for Wi-Fi access point scanning
[14:05] <kunifa> where's this option in ubuntu?
[14:05] <kunifa> it uses network manager 1.1.93
[14:05] <huwjr> anyone having issues with DKIM on xenial?
[14:05] <huwjr> pretty lost atm
[14:06] <huwjr> getting.. opendkim.service: Control process exited, code=exited status=64 Failed to start DomainKeys Identified Mail (DKIM) Milter.
[14:07] <thebwt> kunifa: the GUI may not be caught up, are you trying with nmcli ?
[14:09] <kunifa> thebwt, i was trying with the gui. i see that one can set MAC_ADDRESS_RANDOMIZATION key in ifcfg files. but where are these files and how to set the key properly? there's a lack of documentation...
[14:11] <thebwt> I agree, I'm looking it up now but not coming up with much
[14:12] <OerHeks> kunifa, this one asked the same, i never heard 16.04 can do that, not seeing it too http://askubuntu.com/questions/771204/systemd-mac-address-randomisazion
[14:12] <OerHeks> maybe that question IS from you?
[14:13] <m4vo> can any1 tell me how to turn off hibernate on ubuntu?
[14:14] <kunifa> no, the question is not from me. in the release information of network manager there's info about this option. but unfortunatly no info about how to use it. https://mail.gnome.org/archives/release-team/2016-January/msg00026.html
[14:14] <kunifa> and afaik network manager is independent from systemd
[14:15] <kunifa> so this is supposed to be configured in the network manager config itself...
[14:17] <ash_workz> is there a good channel to get help using Meld?
[14:21] <farblue> Hi all :) Can someone possibly tell me the syntax for using a CIDR rather than a netmask in /etc/network/interfaces?
[14:23] <TJ-> farblue: see "man interfaces" ... e.g. "address 1.2.3.4/31"
[14:25] <farblue> TJ-: Thanks - I was looking at http://manpages.ubuntu.com/manpages/precise/man5/interfaces.5.html but it doesn’t provide an example. So do you provide the address and cidr range on the address line or can you supply the address on the address line and a cidr on the netmask line?
[14:25] <DocMAX> help!
[14:25] <TJ-> farblue: maybe it changed since 12.04 and the 16.04 man-page there would show it?
[14:26] <farblue> yes, found it now :) Google didn’t find it though
[14:26] <DocMAX> dpkg: error processing archive /var/cache/apt/archives/systemd_229-6ubuntu1_amd64.deb (--unpack):
[14:26] <DocMAX>  trying to overwrite '/etc/systemd/logind.conf', which is also in package systemd-services 204-5ubuntu20.19
[14:26] <DocMAX> dpkg-deb: error: subprocess paste was killed by signal (Broken pipe)
[14:26] <DocMAX> Errors were encountered while processing:
[14:26] <TJ-> farblue: man is always your best friend :D
[14:26] <DocMAX> help!
[14:26] <TJ-> (says the Huskies)
[14:26] <farblue> TJ-: heh, thanks :)
[14:26] <dsantos> Hey friends. I just installed ubuntu by myself. I created a 500 GB partition in order to store the ubuntu and its data. However, something went wrong during the installation and the ubuntu created a 13 GB partition which is full now. You can check the status of this situation at http://termbin.com/j7hg and http://termbin.com/maau
[14:27] <dsantos> How can I merge or transfer my ubuntu data into the 500 GB partition?
[14:27] <TJ-> DocMAX: looks like you're mixed releases there, going by the vasrtly different systemd versions
[14:27] <dsantos> Thanks
[14:27] <DocMAX> TJ-, what to do?
[14:27] <DocMAX> i try to update 14.04 > 16.04
[14:28] <TJ-> DocMAX: did you use "do-release-upgrade" ?
[14:28] <DocMAX> no
[14:28] <DocMAX> just apt-get dist-upgrade
[14:28] <TJ-> DocMAX: so you changed the entries in apt's sources.list to xenial?
[14:29] <DocMAX> yes
[14:29] <DocMAX> no to y.....
[14:29] <DocMAX> can pronounce the name
[14:29] <TJ-> to 16.10 yakkety ?
[14:29] <TJ-> 16.04 is xenial, the current release and LTS
[14:30] <DocMAX> do-release-upgrade doesnt find new release
[14:30] <DocMAX> i recovered to 14.04
[14:32] <DocMAX> ah do-release-upgrade -d works
[14:32] <TJ-> DocMAX: for 14.04>16.04, you need to edit /etc/update-manager/release-upgrades and change to "Prompt=normal" - lts upgrades are only available once 16.04.01 is released in July
[14:32] <TJ-> DocMAX: or "-d", yes
[14:32] <Bill_Gates> Hey provide command to export path ??
[14:33] <DocMAX> 16.04 seems to be released
[14:34] <DocMAX> 21. April 2016
[14:34] <nicomachus> DocMAX: it is. but the LTS isn't released until july 21
[14:34] <akis> hi all. i just install 16.04 and although i hold the current kernel (http://paste.ubuntu.com/16461121/) when i am trying to update the system i take the answer that new kernel will be installed (http://paste.ubuntu.com/16461161/). Any idea what is happening and how will i hold the current kernel as i tried to do already?
[14:35] <TJ-> DocMAX: we don't enable upgrades from LTS to LTS until the point 1 release, so as to let bugs be ironed out
[14:35] <DocMAX> we? r u from ubuntu?
[14:35] <dsantos> Nobody here to help me?
[14:35] <nicomachus> ubuntu is a community. we are all ubuntu. you, me, he, she, we
[14:36] <DocMAX> and it
[14:36] <Bill_Gates> ubuntu is my neigbhour's name!
[14:36] <Bill_Gates> My real name is Windows!
[14:36] <minimec> akis: There is a kernel update from version .21 to version .22, but it is still kernel 4.4.0. So you will keep the same kernel, but a newer less nuggier version...
[14:37] <\9> dsantos: fire up the live session again and use gparted to resize the partitions to appropriate sizes
[14:37] <\9> dsantos: note: be very careful when dealing with gparted
[14:37] <minimec> akis: less biggier... ;)
[14:37] <nicomachus> buggier**
[14:38] <dsantos> sorry, but what is live session \9? I am a linux illiterate
[14:38] <Bill_Gates> I got a little script.
[14:38] <minimec> nicomachus: damn ... ;)
[14:38] <\9> dsantos: the session you used to install ubuntu in the first place. cd, usb drive, etc
[14:38] <Bill_Gates> To exec I exported path
[14:38] <akis> minimec: ok, thank you for your reply, i saw already this. why although i choose hold kernel the system tries to update it?
[14:38] <Bill_Gates> But that still runs through vim
[14:39] <tgm4883> akis: how did you hold it?
[14:39] <DocMAX> hey bill, how much money you got?
[14:39] <\9> dsantos: it needs to be done there because gparted cannot edit the partition table of the running system, so you need to run the system off something else
[14:39] <Bill_Gates> Though it runs when I am in that directory!
[14:39] <dsantos> \9 can you guide me through this process? I can come back later here. I dont want to destroy my laptop. I know that this is sensible case
[14:39] <akis> tgm4883: using this command: echo linux-image-amd64 hold | sudo dpkg --set-selections
[14:39] <Bill_Gates> Anyone gotta solution?
[14:40] <\9> dsantos: well, you can use hexchat from the live session and dial back here
[14:40] <minimec> akis: If you don't want the kernel to update, you have to remove the linux-image 'general' package. I do nowever NOT recommend that. There has to be some reason, that they updated the kernel.
[14:40] <DocMAX> hey bill, how much money you got?
[14:40] <Bill_Gates> I used "export PATH=$PATH:directory"
[14:40] <nicomachus> Bill_Gates: can you put it all into one line, please?
[14:40] <nicomachus> DocMAX: keep it on topic please.
[14:40] <dsantos> OK, I will be back in some minutes, maybe with other name
[14:41] <tgm4883> akis: it's doing exactly what you told it to. It's not updating the kernel
[14:41] <tgm4883> minimec: no you don't, he did it correctly. It's not updating the kernel
[14:41] <Bill_Gates> nicomachus : Is "export PATH=$PATH:directory" correct?
[14:41] <tgm4883> however, the kernel headers are a different story...
[14:41] <Bill_Gates> to export path!
[14:42] <jwitko> Hi All, I have an ubuntu 14.04 series of systems that crashing intermittently.  They have existed for a while and just started crashing recently, all system logs and monitoring we have stops cold about an hour before we start to see signs of unresponsiveness.  dmesg shows nothing unordinary, atop logs are empty, syslog and kern.log just stop seemingly as if nothing happened.  Can anyone help
[14:42] <jwitko> me figure out how to investigate this further?
[14:42] <tgm4883> akis: I would agree though, why are you trying to hold the kernel?
[14:42] <akis> minimec: the reason i don't want to update the kernel is because i see that the current one is pretty stable with my wireless adapter and i dont want to risk with any future updates
[14:42] <nicomachus> jwitko: what changes were made right before that started? Any chance of hardware failures?
[14:43] <akis> tgm4883: look @my answer above
[14:43] <minimec> akis: As long as you stay with 4.4.0, that shouldn't happen.
[14:43] <tgm4883> akis: I would argue that rolling back to a previous kernel is super simple
[14:43] <tgm4883> akis: eg. just selecting the older kernel during boot
[14:43] <minimec> tgm4883: I don't agree with you.
[14:44] <tgm4883> minimec: with what?
[14:44] <jwitko> nicomachus: Thanks for the response.  The servers run a service that manages lxc containers through virsh.  There havent been any major system updates or changes that I can quickly or easily identify as being responsible here.  It is possible its hardware, they all run on SuperMicro hardware albiet different versions of that hardware.  However typically I'll see messages or signs in dmesg or
[14:44] <jwitko> syslog alluding to hardware issues.  Currently there is nothing before or after reboot.
[14:44] <akis> tgm4883: i know this procedure, thanks for reminding it.
[14:44] <jwitko> nicomachus:  Also I have logging of system resources but it all stops 1hr before we noticed and system rebooted manually .  resources show no signs of increased utilization
[14:44] <minimec> tgm4883: removing the 'generic' package will stop kernel updates, and his system is updating the kernel vrom subversion .21 to .22 ...
[14:45] <akis> minimec: so you think that no update beyond 4.4.0 will be take place?
[14:45] <tgm4883> minimec: I could agree with you, but then we'd both be wrong. Check his output again, it's not updating the kernel, it's updating the kernel headers (which he hasn't held back)
[14:45] <OerHeks> export PATH=$PATH:/path/to/the/directory not just directory. but hey, Bill_Gates, please DON'T share your script, let us guess !
[14:45] <akis> minimec: only subversion updates will take place?
[14:45] <ubuntu-mate> Hey \9 it is me, dsantos. I am running ubuntu via USB now. I opened the Gparted. What can I do now?
[14:46] <minimec> akis: Exactly. You can however try newer kernels, once 16.10 is released. There will be a different LTS-generic kenrel package that allows to upgrade the kernel to a higher version.
[14:46] <TJ-> akis: you could just remove the master package that causes the updates. either linux-image-generic and linxu-headers-generic or linux-image-lowlatency and linux-headers-lowlatency
[14:46] <tgm4883> minimec: you are right though, removing the metapackage would stop the kernel from being updated, just as holding it would do
[14:47] <tgm4883> TJ-: He's already held the packages, that's not needed
[14:47] <OerHeks> akis, wrong approach, no-one can tell if a new kernel breaks your wifi, nor those 'advises' to wait for 16.10
[14:47] <TJ-> tgm4883: as an alternative to holds
[14:48] <akis> OerHerks: i understand that, so i prefer to hold the current one
[14:48] <tgm4883> TJ-: which he's already done, and is confused about the output of apt (which I'm starting to wonder if anyone actually LOOKED at the output)
[14:48] <TJ-> akis: are you building an external driver for the wifi?
[14:49] <minimec> tgm4883: I see now. Yet I recommend that he frees the kernel again for further updates. He was expecting kernel upgrade to happen, not only kernel updates. As this will not happen, I recommended to do the kernel updates.
[14:49] <OerHeks> akis, oke, so your orig. question is: how to pin the current kernel?
[14:49] <OerHeks> !pinning
[14:49] <akis> TJ: no, built in driver only for my RTL8188EE Wireless Network Adapter (rev 01)
[14:50] <minimec> akis: Yes. Only subversion updates, like bug fixing...
[14:50] <tgm4883> minimec: Yes, he should do updates
[14:50] <tgm4883> OerHeks: he's already holding the packages ......
[14:51] <OerHeks> tgm4883, but he stated he sees a new kernel by updates..
[14:51] <tgm4883> OerHeks: he's wrong. He sees kernel header updates
[14:51] <tgm4883> which I've been trying to explain to everyone in here for the last 10 minutes
[14:52] <minimec> OerHeks: He wants to stay on kernel 4.4.0, so kernel subversion updates shhould be ok. He wanted to prevent kernel version upgrades, putting the current kernel on 'hold'
[14:52] <akis> minimec: on 14.04 i did the same hold procedure and i received no updates. i have to do something more now to receive the same hold procedure. i am wondering what more?
[14:52] <TJ-> akis: in which case it is highly unlikely the driver will regress, only security updates and regressions are added after release. The usual kernel upgrade process keeps at least the previous 2 kernel versions installed which you can boot from via the GRUB boot loader "Advanced..." sub-menu if the latest kernel did introduce a problem.
[14:52] <tgm4883> as soon as I get someone on board, someone else chimes in with either holding the packages, or removing the metapackages
[14:52] <OerHeks> oh oke, i just rolled back to the 1st line. he pinned linux-image-generic only
[14:52] <tgm4883> akis: you need to hold the headers as well
[14:53] <tgm4883> akis: which we all can't agree what the issue is , we all agree that you should most definitely not stop kernel updates from happening
[14:53] <axisys> I was trying to fix vmware player issue with not finding gtk library. I probably removed some gtk package..and reinstalled.. my gnome-terminal background is now white and the desktop background looks grid with dots.. any suggestion on a fix?
[14:54] <minimec> akis: Imagine the current kenrel has a security hole. Putting the current version on 'hold' will not fix that hole! Yet you can be sure that the kernel version will stay on kernel 4.4.0, as long as you don't take further steps.
[14:54] <axisys> I am on 16.04
[14:54] <nabukadnezar43> ubuntu-server installer fails to load usb-storage module complaining about missing key (module not signed?)
[14:54] <nabukadnezar43> are there any workarounds?
[14:54] <minimec> akis: ... when 'freeing' that version again. You only get updates for kernel version 4.4.0.
[14:55] <TJ-> akis: you can always check the list of changes *before* allowing a package upgrade using "apt-get changelog <package-name>"
[14:56] <akis> minimec: i understand what you mentioned and it is very important. but in recent past under 14.04 i faced many issues with this card. now i can i see that is pretty stable and i wish that it stays stable!
[14:57] <tgm4883> akis: if you do decide to continue holding the kernel (and we're all strongly urging you to reconsider), then you really need to subscribe to http://www.ubuntu.com/usn/
[14:57] <ubunturos> I had a general question about specific packages that are a part of third-party vendors (like Pivotal for RabbitMQ, Ansible by Ansible Inc.). The versions of packages that are available in the Ubuntu default repositories of these packages are often relatively lower than their current version with a LTS release. Is there a rigorous process to ensure the binary compatibility of the package with the LTS version? Is that why they don't get updated too often?
[14:57] <minimec> akis: It will, because your kernel version will stay on 4.4.0. You only get bux fixes.
[14:57] <MonkeyDust> !latest | ubunturos here's why
[14:57] <TJ-> ubunturos: package features are frozen at release; only security fixes are added after that
[14:58] <auronandace> akis: bottom line: it is trivial to boot an older kernel IF you come across wifi issues but freezing the kernel WILL make you vulnerable to any security flaws and unfixed bugs
[14:58] <minimec> akis: And anyway, you could always boot an older kernel version on boot, if the newer version would break something. But I am quiet sure that this will not happen...
[14:58] <ubunturos> MonkeyDust: TJ-: Thanks, that helps.
[14:59] <tgm4883> ubunturos: those packages are community supported. They are up to date with the version that is in debian. If debian has an old version, it's because nobody went through the effort to upload a newer version
[14:59] <ubunturos> Ah, I see. Okay.
[14:59] <tgm4883> ubunturos: personally, if there is a upstream repo for their software I usually run from that
[15:00] <akis> ok, dear friends it is pretty clear what you are mentioning about the security but if i have to drop to an older version to make my wi-fi work is it the same thing?
[15:00] <tgm4883> akis: yes, but if you have to drop to an older version you should file a bug
[15:01] <ubunturos> tgm4883: I would also like to do that. However, some of the previous attempts that I've made have caused some crashes. I did not have enough time to run through the troubleshooting, so decided to step back and use the ones that did not complain much (versions that come along with the LTS release)
[15:02] <hutrardato> Hi
[15:02] <axisys> need help with restoring the black background
[15:02] <akis> so, now my kernel is like this: http://paste.ubuntu.com/16461688/. Your opinion is to set it again at ii? or stay like this (hi) and just  receive the subversions?
[15:02] <hutrardato> I want to install ubuntu on my system, but instead of gnome, I want awesome wm, where to start?
[15:02] <hutrardato> and encryption as well
[15:02] <axisys> any idea what gtk package needs to be there?
[15:02] <MonkeyDust> !mini | hutrardato
[15:03] <MonkeyDust> axisys  background of what? your desktop?
[15:03] <hutrardato> MonkeyDust: that's good
[15:03] <hutrardato> MonkeyDust: what do yousuggest for encryption?
[15:03] <hutrardato> any video?
[15:04] <auronandace> akis: there is very little reason not to keep your kernel up to date with the latest security and bug fixes unless you know for certain there will be a regression with your wifi
[15:05] <minimec> akis: Don't put the kernel on 'hold'. Free it again. Allow it to do security/bug fixes with subversion .21 -> .22 updates. It is still the same kernel version, and your WiFi driver will stay the same, as long as there is no security/bug fix to do... ;)
[15:05] <axisys> MonkeyDust: gnome-terminal
[15:05] <EldonMcGuinness> awesome gui == gnome :D
[15:06] <EldonMcGuinness> hutrardato: But awesome gui is very subjective, is there something in particular you are looking for in a GUI?
[15:06] <axisys> MonkeyDust: I was trying to fix something with vmplayer and gtk library and must have removed a package that is needed to restore the black background on gnome-terminal
[15:06] <hutrardato> EldonMcGuinness: should be very light. awesome wm I meant though
[15:07] <auronandace> EldonMcGuinness: awesome wm is a tiling window manager, it has nothing to do with gnome
[15:07] <adrien_> hey - im stuck with an issue, apt made an auto update which erased 75% of my apps. I'm on ubuntu-gnome, is this gdm or ubuntu related??
[15:07] <akis> minimec: i will do so. thanks. one more question relative to my new installation. i tried to install xchat but ubuntu center answered that there is no package with this name so i choosed xchat-GNOME which i am using right now. Is the same distro? what happen with plain 'xchat'?
[15:08] <MonkeyDust> axisys  Profiles > Profile preferences ... no?
[15:08] <tgm4883> adrien_: what do you mean it erased your apps. Did they get uninstalled?
[15:08] <EldonMcGuinness> indeed auronandace but he said gnome so I assumed he meant the whole shell
[15:08] <auronandace> akis: it was removed because it is no longer supported, hexchat is a good alternative
[15:08] <axisys> MonkeyDust: nawp.. I am missing a package..
[15:09] <axisys> MonkeyDust: could be a some gtk pkg
[15:09] <hutrardato> any article/blog on encryption diong correctly?
[15:09] <minimec> akis: Could be that xchat is deprecated right now (discontinued). You may try hexchat... http://packages.ubuntu.com/search?suite=all&section=all&arch=any&keywords=xchat&searchon=names
[15:09] <EldonMcGuinness> What type of encryption hutrardato? Do you mean of home folders, drives or something else?
[15:10] <adrien_> tgm4883, yes the apt logs shows they were uninstalled :S
[15:10] <adrien_> it's insane: http://pastebin.com/EZ3A3vS0
[15:10] <hutrardato> EldonMcGuinness: complete encryption. That if I loose my hdd/laptop. Nobody can access it
[15:10] <hutrardato> so I think drive
[15:10] <akis> minimec: its ok if it is discontinued, i am using xchat_GNOME, will this be discontinued too?
[15:12] <tgm4883> adrien_: weird, Can you pastebin the full apt history.log file?
[15:12] <minimec> akis: I don't know. I am one of these 'terminal chat' users with 'irssi'. What I hear that hexchat has almost the same ui design as xchat. There is also 'quassel' that has become quiet famous.
[15:12] <akis> minimec: ok, thank you for your time today.
[15:12] <baizon> akis: yes, xchat is discontinued. Hexchat is the fork of xchat, I recommend to use that
[15:13] <minimec> akis: no problem
[15:13] <adrien_> tgm4883: hold on a sec
[15:13] <EldonMcGuinness> I've no experience with encrypting the entire install, only done home folders and then whole drives that are not the root fs
[15:14] <jarnos> Xubuntu 16.04 does not boot. It just shows the logo and animation, but does not display the login screen. It used to work earlier.
[15:14] <TJ-> hutrardato: Ubuntu support Full Disk Encryption at install time using LUKS/dm-crypt, and also home directory file-system encryption using ecryptfs
[15:14] <axisys> MonkeyDust: reinstall ubuntu-desktop restored everything..
[15:14] <EldonMcGuinness> TJ-: does that encrypt the entire OS or just the home folders?
[15:14] <hutrardato> TJ-: which is better LUKS or dm-crypt?
[15:15] <MonkeyDust> axisys  great
[15:15] <TJ-> hutrardato: not in the installer, but possible, is encryption of the GRUB boot-loader's root file-system too, which prevents access to the kernels, initrd.img, or GRUB config without the LUKS passphrase
[15:15] <TJ-> hutrardato: LUKS is a wrapper around dm-crypt
[15:15] <stratos> @EldonMcGuinness: LUKS is on top of dm-crypt
[15:16] <adrien_> gtm4883: http://pastebin.com/9QYKEKg3
[15:17] <TJ-> LUKS is like Veracrypt although not cross-platform and doesn't explicitly support hidden sub-volumes
[15:18] <hutrardato> I see
[15:19] <adrien_> sorry, I cat the logs the wrong way, here's the proper order: http://pastebin.com/tNxepY4q
[15:24] <root____2> exit
[15:25] <DarkBlueShark> can I delete last installed updates?
[15:25] <[fLuX0R]> whats up guys... I have a question, I'm using Unionfs-FUSE and my main folder is sorted/ when I try to move folders inside the sorted/ folder I get permission denied... anybody knows what can be?
[15:25] <DarkBlueShark> from software center
[15:26] <[fLuX0R]> here is what I'm doing http://pastebin.com/78hLKdj5
[15:27] <Vinnie_win> HELP! My Ubuntu 16.04 Desktop edition seems to have a problem with the hot-spot of the ibeam cursor. When I select text in any gui window, it usually selects the line above what I wanted to select. I I have to aim the top of the ibeam in the lower half of a line of text in order to select it, which is wrong. Anyone else have this problem? How can I fix it?
[15:27] <nicomachus> [fLuX0R]: use sudo
[15:27] <tgm4883> adrien_: that's super weird. Which repo are you connecting to? Any PPA's activated?
[15:28] <[fLuX0R]> nicomachus: if I try to move just text works, the problem is only when I try to move the entire folder
[15:29] <farblue> just playing with (and really liking) the new fan networking :) Are there any recommendations on iptables rules to help keep packets contained?
[15:30] <ryneke> i have a problem with GnuPG-keys on UbuntuGNOME 16.04 maybe someone can help me
[15:31] <[fLuX0R]> whats up guys... I have a question, I'm using Unionfs-FUSE I'm getting permission denied when I try to move a folder... just a folder, single files works... here is what I'm doing here is what I'm doing http://pastebin.com/78hLKdj5 anybody knows what can be?
[15:31] <nicomachus> [fLuX0R]: yea, I think you need sudo because of the preserves
[15:31] <nicomachus> you don't need to repeat your question so quickly, though
[15:31] <ryneke> i tried importing a friend's public key but it won't show up in seahorse
[15:31] <[fLuX0R]> nicomachus: sudo doesnt works too :(
[15:31] <[fLuX0R]> I also try with cp -r instead mv , but same problem :(
[15:32] <ryneke> i created my own set of keys earlier and it showed up there but because of the problems i deleted the keys and recreated them in the terminal. now when i type gpg --list-keys in the terminal it shows my key and my friend's key but neither show up in seahorse
[15:32] <ryneke> any help?
[15:34] <TJ-> ryneke: are you using gpg or gpg2? because both are around it can cause confusion if the keys are added to v1 keyring because it won't get automatically imported to the v2 keyring
[15:34] <curlyears> hello
[15:34] <TJ-> ryneke: "gpg2 --list-keys" and "gpg --list-keys" should help
[15:36] <ryneke> TJ-: ah ok it seems they are both gpg, not gpg2. gpg2 --list-keys doesn't show anything
[15:36] <ryneke> TJ-: so how do i import them into seahorse so that evolution may use my friends key?
[15:36] <huwjr> anyone got opendkim running on xenial? finding it a complete blag...
[15:38] <snapfractalpop> Ben64: see from the logs that amr_ came back..
[15:39] <snapfractalpop> I wonder if he knows the channel is logged.
[15:39] <snapfractalpop> I hope he saw my last messages..
[15:39] <TJ-> ryneke: seahorse is a GUI front-end to the gpg tools
[15:40] <OerHeks> snapfractalpop, else he will come back
[15:40] <TJ-> ryneke: and (in 16.04) it depends on gpg2
[15:40] <ryneke> TJ-: i know but evolution will only use keys that show up in seahorse it seems
[15:41] <snapfractalpop> OerHeks: true.
[15:41] <Faiz> does anyone know how to check for some faults in system nd correct them automatcilly ?
[15:41] <Faiz> there  are many problem in my ubuntu
[15:42] <jwitko> Hi All, I have an ubuntu 14.04 series of systems that crashing intermittently.  They have existed for a while and just started crashing recently, all system logs and monitoring we have stops cold about an hour before we start to see signs of unresponsiveness.  dmesg shows nothing unordinary, atop logs are empty, syslog and kern.log just stop seemingly as if nothing happened.  Can anyone help
[15:42] <jwitko> me figure out how to investigate this further?
[15:42] <snapfractalpop> Faiz: you could start by looking at the logs
[15:42] <Faiz> nd how to look at logs ?
[15:42] <Faiz> nd wht to do with them ?
[15:42] <OerHeks> !fsck | Faiz
[15:42] <TJ-> ryneke: in Seahorse have you set View > Show Any or View > Show Trusted ?
[15:43] <ryneke> TJ-: i set it to show any
[15:43] <ryneke> TJ-: doesn't work
[15:43] <TJ-> ryneke: and the key that you can see with "gpg2 --list-keys" doesn't show up?
[15:43] <snapfractalpop> Faiz: logs are in /var/log
[15:44] <idasvleter> hi
[15:44] <ryneke> TJ-: no wait gpg2 --list-keys doesn't show anything
[15:44] <idasvleter> i need help i don't see my files in ubuntu
[15:44] <Faiz> k im gonna try tht command
[15:44] <Faiz> wht to do after tht ?
[15:44] <ryneke> TJ-: only gpg --list-keys shows something
[15:44] <TJ-> ryneke: right, that makes sense since seahorse uses gpg2
[15:44] <ryneke> TJ-: yes
[15:44] <TJ-> ryneke: so you need to do an import from gpg v1 to gpg v2
[15:45] <ryneke> TJ-: ok and how do i do that?
[15:45] <TJ-> ryneke: there's a tool to sync them, I was reading about it yesterday, let me see if I can find it
[15:45] <snapfractalpop> jwitko: do you have any metrics logged?
[15:47] <adrien_> tgm4883: yes I had at least three ppa, linrunner (tlp), tualatrix (ubuntu-tweak) and then maybe webup8 as well...
[15:47] <tgm4883> adrien_: when you did the update, you did it via the gui?
[15:47] <snapfractalpop> Faiz: that will try to fix file system issues, if that is the issue, after you can try rebooting
[15:48] <adrien_> somehow, these ppa got removed during the update
[15:48] <snapfractalpop> Faiz: I assume you are asking what to do after you run fsck
[15:48] <jwitko> snapfractalpop:  I have logging of system resources but it all stops 1hr before we noticed and system rebooted manually .  resources show no signs of increased utilization from the logs that do exist before the event
[15:48] <adrien_> well, yes, the automatic update came thorugh the gui
[15:48] <jwitko> snapfractalpop:  he servers run a service that manages lxc containers through virsh.  There havent been any major system updates or changes that I can quickly or easily identify as being responsible here.  It is possible its hardware, they all run on SuperMicro hardware albiet different versions of that hardware.  However typically I'll see messages or signs in dmesg or syslog alluding to
[15:48] <jwitko> hardware issues.  Currently there is nothing before or after reboot.
[15:48] <tgm4883> adrien_: did it mention anything about a partial upgrade when you did that?
[15:49] <snapfractalpop> jwitko: hm.. so the logging stops, but everything else works for 1 hr?
[15:49] <OerHeks> adrien_, did you enable HWE?
[15:49] <jwitko> snapfractalpop: it does seem that way.
[15:49] <TJ-> ryneke: I can't find the info now, but it said something like the first time gpg2 is rum it creates $HOME/.gnupg/private-keys-v1.d/ with copies of the v1 keys, and copies the public keyring too.
[15:49] <snapfractalpop> jwitko: is this reproducible?
[15:49] <adrien_> I don't think so, but since I had 8 desktops busy with windows I didnt look at the details
[15:49] <adrien_> HWE?
[15:49] <jwitko> snapfractalpop:  i can't reproduce it on command but it has happened a lot in the past few days to all servers in this 'cluster'
[15:49] <tgm4883> adrien_: what version of ubuntu?
[15:49] <OerHeks> oke, if you need to ask, you didn't i guess.
[15:49] <jwitko> snapfractalpop:  and I'm sure it will happen again
[15:50] <snapfractalpop> jwitko: is this on aws?
[15:50] <jwitko> snapfractalpop:  no, company owned data center and hardware
[15:50] <sveinse> How can I disable a systemd service? "systemctl is-enabled zfs-mount.service" returns static, and evidently it does not respond to "systemctl disable"
[15:50] <ryneke> TJ-: ok i have that folder but it's empty - should i delete it and restart seahorse maybe?
[15:50] <idasvleter> when im trying to remove it's say file protected
[15:50] <adrien_> tgm4883: 14.04
[15:51] <Rafael_> hello, does anyone know a good browser which work flash nativally?
[15:51] <tgm4883> adrien_: HWE shouldn't do this either.
[15:51] <adrien_> OerHeks: no indeed, didnt have HWE enabled
[15:51] <snapfractalpop> jwitko: I wonder if you can somehow get shell access to the next time the logs stop but the system is still "working"
[15:51] <jwitko> snapfractalpop, I have IPMI access with uses a java based KVM remote console
[15:51] <lotuspsychje> Rafael_: chromium-browser + pepperflash or firefox with freshplayer
[15:51] <snapfractalpop> jwitko: the timezone information is correct, I assume
[15:51] <jwitko> the console is completely unresponsive when I attempt to log in
[15:51] <tgm4883> adrien_: All I could do at this point is guess what happened
[15:52] <jwitko> snapfractalpop, yes timezone and ntp services seem to be working without issue
[15:52] <snapfractalpop> jwitko: so, you can't log in, what is working during that 1 hour period?
[15:52] <adrien_> tgm4883: what would that be? I read other rare occurences of such issues, but like 4 years ago...
[15:52] <OerHeks> adrien_, i wonder about linux-lts-xenial-tools-4.4.0-13:amd64  then
[15:52] <snapfractalpop> jwitko: the reason I was asking about the time zone is simply that I was speculating that it could be the cause of the 1 hour discrepancy
[15:52] <snapfractalpop> in log outage vs real-world outage
[15:53] <TJ-> ryneke: ahhh, there's a trick. You have to "killall gpg-agent" and then "gpg2 --list-keys" *should* do an import from v1 and you'll see some messages about it
[15:53] <Rafael_> lotuspsychje, i have tried both and they dont seem I dont know why. I need to open this site: http://siga.unimedjundiai.com.br/
[15:53] <adrien_> OerHeks: you mean xenial isn't 14.04?
[15:53] <ryneke> TJ-: ok one sec
[15:53] <jwitko> snapfractalpop: so I only ever know the box is down after the approximate one hour has passed.  unfortunately I don't have any symptoms or signs to look for of the 'impending' situation.  I'm guessing the services work because the alerting from nagios doesn't happen until the hour or so later.
[15:53] <adrien_> so there's been an upgrade without me paying attetion?
[15:53] <lotuspsychje> Rafael_: perhaps the websites still use old adobe stuff?
[15:53] <OerHeks> 14.04 = trusty
[15:53] <jwitko> snapfractalpop: it would be services like SSH, ping, etc still functioning.  Also the libvirtd service
[15:53] <tgm4883> adrien_: well my best guess would be that there was a conflict between a package in the PPA and something else (possibly a dependency issue) and that in order to fulfill that request it had to remove all those other packages
[15:54] <Darmoktalk> Are they going to start over the alphabet soon?
[15:54] <tgm4883> adrien_: this is ubuntu-gnome?
[15:54] <tgm4883> Darmoktalk: next year
[15:54] <nacc> Darmoktalk: it's only approximately alphabetical order anyways
[15:54] <Welastevil> hi guys!
[15:54] <Rafael_> lotuspsychje, maybe. if i try it with the regular chrome it works fine but my machine is x86 and chromes x64 only
[15:54] <Welastevil> what does it mean?
[15:54] <Darmoktalk> neat
[15:54] <adrien_> tgm4883: yes, ubuntu-gnome. That would suck eternally, I'll look at the details of the ppa maybe I find the culprit
[15:54] <lotuspsychje> Rafael_: firefox complains here also on your site
[15:54] <Welastevil> Package libelementary1 is not available, but is referred to by another package.
[15:54] <Welastevil> This may mean that the package is missing, has been obsoleted, or
[15:54] <Welastevil> is only available from another source
[15:55] <Welastevil> Rafael from Brasil?
[15:55] <snapfractalpop> jwitko: you could run a local command that checks the log files and reports when they are not being written to for some time
[15:55] <OerHeks> elementary =!ubuntu
[15:55] <Welastevil> so... no problem?
[15:55] <tgm4883> adrien_: I'd suggest reinstalling ubuntu-gnome-desktop that should pull in a bunch of those packages
[15:55] <ryneke> TJ-: hm, after killall when i run "sudo gpg2 --list-keys" it just says warning: unsafe ownership of configuration file
[15:55] <OerHeks> oh, no, it is a regular ubuntu package i see
[15:55] <Welastevil> E: Package 'libelementary1' has no installation candidate
[15:56] <Welastevil> so, what can I do to install it?
[15:56] <snapfractalpop> jwitko: that might buy you a window to ssh in and see what's happening before the impending crash
[15:56] <Rafael_> lotuspsychje, the only one that works is chrome :/
[15:56] <snapfractalpop> but it does sound odd that the logs would be the first thing to go
[15:56] <Rafael_> lotuspsychje, apparently
[15:56] <lotuspsychje> Welastevil: what are you trying to install, that you need this package
[15:56] <OerHeks> Welastevil, it is part of 'universe' repo, make sure you enabled it http://packages.ubuntu.com/trusty/libs/libelementary1
[15:56] <nacc> Welastevil: what version of ubuntu?
[15:56] <TJ-> jwitko: sounds like a progressive out of memory issue
[15:57] <TJ-> ryneke: no sudo, that runs it as the root user!
[15:57] <snapfractalpop> TJ-: but wouldn't he have OOM errors in the logs?
[15:57] <adrien_> tgm4883: that's what I did, before that I couldnt even launch the system. I'm up for reinstalling from scratch I guess, which sucks after less than a year.
[15:57] <jwitko> TJ-:  wouldn't i see OOM and other such issues in the logs ?
[15:57] <tgm4883> adrien_: you shouldn't need to reinstall from scratch
[15:57] <Rafael_> whats the name of that browser that the creators are the ones from mozilla
[15:57] <Rafael_> ??
[15:58] <TJ-> snapfractalpop: if it was severe, but logging stopping suggests rsyslogd is either dying or running out of resources... if it isn't reported as dying, then starvation is another possibility
[15:58] <ryneke> TJ-: hm gpg2 --list-keys still doesn't show anything..
[15:58] <adrien_> tgm4883: I don't need, but my gut feeling is that there's a bunch of packages lying around the system which aren't somehow bound to my user anymore, or something something
[15:58] <snapfractalpop> TJ-: what's weird is that he's saying other services will run fine for another hour
[15:59] <tgm4883> adrien_: that sentence doesn't even make sense. Packages aren't bound to users
[15:59] <sveinse> How can I disable a "static" systemd service? Or perhaps more correctly, is there a way to disable it except modifying the service file in /lib/systemd/system/ ?
[15:59] <TJ-> ryneke: if you just used sudo you've possibly changed ownership of your user's keys. check then with "find $HOME/.gnupg -ls" and make sure your $USER owns everything
[15:59] <adrien_> tgm4883: I wish it was like that, but gnome is a little magic, ya know ;)
[15:59] <tgm4883> adrien_: like how?
[16:00] <TJ-> snapfractalpop: jwitko without seeing the logs leading up to the 'pause' its hard to do anything except throw vague guesses about
[16:00] <ryneke> TJ-: seems to be ok, after each path my username is prompted twice
[16:00] <Welastevil> last version
[16:00] <jwitko> TJ-: sure I'm happy to show the logs  one moment
[16:01] <Welastevil> how to enable that?
[16:01] <Welastevil> versio 16.04
[16:01] <Maynard> I want to download 14.04 Ubuntu Studio.  I can get it to go to transmission. What do I do from there?
[16:01] <snapfractalpop> jwitko: in a pastebin
[16:01] <TJ-> ryneke: hmmm, and do you have the ".gnupg/private-keys-v1.d/" directory and files within?
[16:02] <adrien_> tgm4883: well it's my first time on ubuntu-gnome after 10 years on ubuntu without any such stuff happening and it didn't last long.
[16:02] <ryneke> TJ-: no, the folder was empty before, now i deleted it to try if it would be recreated
[16:02] <lotuspsychje> Maynard: let it download until ready?
[16:02] <idasvleter> hi
[16:02] <idasvleter> is this support also with virtualbox?
[16:02] <lotuspsychje> idasvleter: if its on ubuntu yes
[16:02] <idasvleter> yes
[16:02] <Welastevil> terminology terminal and E20
[16:02] <idasvleter> I want to see m vmhdk
[16:02] <TJ-> ryneke: you might need to do "gpg2 -K <key-id>" to trigger the import... when it happens one message you'll see is "gpg: starting migration from earlier GnuPG versions"
[16:02] <Welastevil> so... what should I do to be able to install that>?
[16:03] <tgm4883> adrien_: I still don't understand and I still don't think you need to reinstall, but it's your system do what you want
[16:03] <lotuspsychje> idasvleter: see also the #vbox channel if you cant find your answer here
[16:03] <TJ-> ryneke: use your own key's ID there
[16:03] <Maynard> Yes I did........starting over now.  Also is there a BETTER torrent server?  The BitTorrent provided in Ubuntu older realeases took 14 hours last night.
[16:03] <ryneke> TJ-: ok i'll try
[16:03] <lotuspsychje> !torrents | Maynard
[16:04] <adrien_> tgm4883: usually, the system should give a warning before uninstalling itself. The packages that got updated before removing the other one where not from the ppa.
[16:04] <adrien_> tgm4883: But anyway, thanks for looking at that!
[16:04] <TJ-> ryneke: that assumes you've got your keys in gpg v1 format in that location already... if you've been using 'sudo' there's a chance your keys belong to root user and are in /root/.gnupg/
[16:04] <tgm4883> adrien_: that's what the partial update warning does
[16:05] <nacc> Welastevil: that package isn't available in 16.04; was this an upgrade from 14.04?
[16:05] <adrien_> tgm4883: can't exclude I clicked yes but I meant no XD classic.
[16:05] <Eburitus> when do 14.04 users get working update to 16.04?
[16:05] <nacc> Eburitus: when 16.04.1 comes out
[16:05] <nacc> Eburitus: roughly July sometime
[16:06] <Eburitus> roger
[16:06] <Maynard> lotuspsychje_ I don't want 16..........it repeatedly crashes on me.  IS there a better torrent than BitTorrent?  I want a iso for 14 Studio
[16:06] <ryneke> TJ-: well i think they are there (under ~/.gnupg) because the pubring.pgp file is there and has 2.9 kB of size
[16:06] <nicomachus> Maynard: a better torrent? what do you mean? client? protocol?
[16:07] <Maynard> I don't know the term all I know is Bit TOrrent that Ubuntu gives blows.  13 hours for 2.6G?????????????????
[16:07] <ryneke> TJ-: when i try to run "gpg2 -K <id>" it says "gpg: error reading key: No secret key"
[16:07] <DrMontilla_>  my alsa is going mute everytime i reboot or logoff/on. i can run alsamixer, select the soundcard and un-mute, but the settings reset every reboot or logon. any help?
[16:07] <nicomachus> Maynard: sounds like you have a slow internet connection. Nothing Ubuntu can do about that.
[16:08] <curlyears> why does it take 5-7 seconds for my screen to respond when I hit a key, when it's on auto-saver? (you know, keyboard timeout, the screen goes blank)
[16:08] <Maynard> I have like 5M/s
[16:08] <Welastevil> yes....
[16:08] <Maynard> not thhe issue
[16:08] <Welastevil> oh so sad
[16:08] <bekks> Maynard: Use a single quotation mark only. Multiplying it doesnt make your issue more important. And if torrenting the ISO takes too long for you, just download the ISO as usual.
[16:08] <Welastevil> impossible so???
[16:09] <snapfractalpop> Maynard: make sure you don't have the turtle clicked if you are using transmission
[16:09] <Maynard> K thanks
[16:09] <curlyears> Maynard:   is tha a onee time experience, or it bitTor consistently slow for you?
[16:09] <Maynard> So first time with torrent.
[16:09] <jwitko> snapfractalpop TJ- please see http://imgur.com/a/typmN  that is screen shot of the logs at the time of the crash from both kern.log and syslog
[16:09] <tgm4883> Maynard: it could also be your ISP doing some blocking
[16:09] <TJ-> ryneke: right, the -K <key-id> needs to be the id of your own key, and it if it isn't currently in gpg2's keyring, should trigger an attempt to import it from the gpg v1 keyring
[16:09] <Maynard> BitTorrent took 13 hours for 2.8G
[16:10] <curlyears> or it could be an overloaded torrent server
[16:10] <Maynard> Ran a speed test not the issue.
[16:10] <jwitko> there are memory issues in the logs from kvm but these systems are handling lxc containers via libvirtd and those errors have existed for as long as I have logs to go back and look at
[16:10] <ryneke> TJ-: hm well the id of my own key is the first line when i type gpg --list-keys, right?
[16:10] <Maynard> HENCE why I am asking is there a better place to get Ubuntu safely?
[16:10] <tgm4883> Maynard: that has NOTHING to do with bittorrent speeds
[16:11] <ryneke> TJ-: or is it the email-address
[16:11] <tgm4883> well, not nothing
[16:11] <tgm4883> but it's almost irrelevant to the discussion
[16:11] <snapfractalpop> jwitko: mm_fault_error seems before the crash
[16:11] <TJ-> jwitko: "over capacity" - cannot see anything. can you simply pastebin text extracts (say the 1000 messages leading up to the 'pause')
[16:11] <TJ-> ryneke: you can use anything gpg recognises as an ID... email address, name, fingeprint, key-ID
[16:11] <nacc> Welastevil: did you use a PPA to install e20 in trusty? the version of enligtenment in 16.04 is e17 (aiui)
[16:11] <curlyears> I mean, I have a 15Mbps cable connection, am downloading the 16.4 desktop ISO, ansd Firefoc is predicting 3-4 hours (it varies)  That tells me that the server is heavily loaded right now
[16:11] <tgm4883> Maynard: but if you want, I can check. Which torrent was going slow for you?
[16:12] <Maynard> BitTorrent
[16:12] <Welastevil> yes
[16:12] <Welastevil> I used
[16:12] <tgm4883> Maynard: that's not what I asked.... Give me the link
[16:12] <Maynard> tgm4883_thank you
[16:12] <ryneke> TJ-: ok, that doesn't work though it only gives me the error message "error reading key: no secret key"
[16:12] <nacc> Welastevil: more than likely the PPA you used in 14.04 does not yet support 16.04, but not sure without knowing the ppa
[16:12] <TJ-> ryneke: hmmm, I'm at a loss then. Does "gpg -K <key-id>" show that key?
[16:12] <nacc> Welastevil: but you should contact the ppa owner for support
[16:13] <ryneke> TJ-: yes it does
[16:13] <curlyears> I have downloaded that file before and gotten it done in 43 minutes, so I know the saerver must  be loaded
[16:14] <TJ-> ryneke: Well, that's 1 step closer, we know it is there, and we know it *should* be imported. I wonder if you need to remove the (failed) import directory and some other files to have it re-trigger. Let me check
[16:14] <tgm4883> curlyears: I still think it's his connection
[16:14] <curlyears> TJ-:  are you a member of the development team?
[16:14] <jwitko> snapfractalpop unfortunately the server is powered off at this moment so I can't go and grab the text logs.  can you see this?  http://i.imgur.com/2LzzQZG.png
[16:14] <jwitko> err, sorry  TJ- ^
[16:14] <curlyears> tgm4883: quite poissible
[16:15] <TJ-> ryneke: do you have a "$HOME/.gnupg/.gpg-v21-migrated" file (which I suspect is the 'flag' to say the import has been done) ?
[16:15] <jwitko> TJ- snapfractalpop here is a paste-bin for system resources before/after the crash  http://pastebin.com/5AZRZeUW
[16:15] <ryneke> TJ-: yap
[16:15] <TJ-> jwitko: yes, can see that
[16:15] <ryneke> TJ-: it's 0 bytes
[16:15] <curlyears> jwiko:   server not found from here
[16:15] <TJ-> ryneke: try removing that flag file then and doing "gpg2 -K <key-id>" again
[16:16] <curlyears> I couldn't get joined into ubuntu-offtopic this morning, the channel just never connects
[16:16] <TJ-> jwitko: seems pretty obvious "mm_fault_error" - Memory Manager Fault: Error
[16:17] <ryneke> TJ-: BAM you're a god man!
[16:17] <jwitko> TJ- there are memory issues in the logs from kvm but these systems are handling lxc containers via libvirtd and those errors have existed for as long as I have logs to go back and look at
[16:17] <TJ-> ryneke: if you dig hard enough you'll always come out the other side :D
[16:17] <ryneke> TJ-: it shows up in seahorse now, although it is "greyed out"
[16:17] <jwitko> those messages are seen time and time again with no crash
[16:17] <idasvleter> terimanal arrow is shit
[16:17] <idasvleter> :(
[16:17] <TJ-> ryneke: which is greyed out, your own key?
[16:17] <voot> I just compiled freeradius on one Ubuntu 14.04.4 system and transferred the whole directory to our "production" system. However, make install doesn't work. What is the best practice for transferring compiled software to production servers?
[16:18] <TJ-> ryneke: you should edit your own key and give it ultimate trust
[16:18] <ryneke> TJ-: yes, and my friend's key doesn't sho up either
[16:18] <curlyears> TJ-:     are you a member of the development team for 16.04?
[16:18] <idasvleter> I can't find my ip
[16:18] <ryneke> TJ-: ok ultimate trust makes it visible
[16:18] <nacc> idasvleter: `ip addr`
[16:18] <idasvleter> I do ifconfig and I see inet addr but it's starting with 10.0.2 and not with 10.0.0
[16:19] <ryneke> TJ-: and my friend's key? do i have to run the same command on it?
[16:19] <snapfractalpop> jwitko: I'm stumped.. wish I could help you further, but the resources log leaves no clues that I can work with..
[16:19] <curlyears> is there any way in gnome (short opf editing the sourrce and recompiling) to change the display size of ther cursor?
[16:19] <nacc> voot: when you say 'whole directory' what do you mean? note that the method of transfer is important as `make` is very sensitive to timestamps
[16:19] <nacc> voot: so time differences between the two systems can also lead to issues
[16:20] <root____5> hi
[16:20] <TJ-> ryneke: "gpg2 --edit-key <key-id>" and then there's a command-line inside gpg, type 'help' to list the commands. Type "trust" and choose 5 (ultimate) then type "save"
[16:20] <nacc> voot: I believe most people use packages for what you are asking, but I don't know for sure
[16:20] <snapfractalpop> jwitko: the only thing I can see as a clue is that error in the first imgur link
[16:20] <idasvleter> nacc: that's doesn't show ip
[16:20] <snapfractalpop> but I don't know what to make of that
[16:20] <TJ-> ryneke: after that check if v2 can see your friend's key with "gpg2 --list-keys"
[16:20] <Guest91682> hi?
[16:20] <idasvleter> defcon
[16:21] <idasvleter> hehe
[16:21] <bekks> idasvleter: You are using NAT in your VM, dont you?
[16:21] <Guest91682> ye?
[16:21] <nacc> idasvleter: i'm pretty sure it does, but ok -- even if ifconfig is what you use, you have an IP, you just don't like it? (you mention above 10.0.2 prefix)
[16:21] <curlyears> greetsa Guest91682
[16:21] <idasvleter> bekks: i changed it to brisged
[16:21] <ryneke> TJ-: ok one sec
[16:21] <idasvleter> bridged*
[16:21] <bekks> idasvleter: Then you have to change IP settings in your VM too.
[16:21] <idasvleter> nacc: i am trying to use openssh-server
[16:21] <idasvleter> bekks: that's what i did
[16:22] <TJ-> jwitko: those messages are part of a corrupted panic message, there's a stack-trace been lost there, and then shortly after all those ^@ are zero-bytes in the log file due to corruption
[16:22] <bekks> idasvleter: Then you would be using an IP from your LAN, not a NAT one.
[16:22] <idasvleter> bekks: what does it mean?
[16:22] <voot> nacc: I transferred the entire source directory in which I compiled the software. I used scp to transfer it to the production system. "make install" reports that "there is no rule to make target "install"". I cannot use the ubuntu repo deb package because it is far too out of date for our environment
[16:23] <ryneke> TJ-: when i try "gpg2 --edit-key <key-id>" it says "gpg: key <key-id> not found: no public key"
[16:23] <bekks> idasvleter: That your changes had no effect so far.
[16:23] <idasvleter> so what to do?
[16:23] <nacc> voot: is there a Makefile in the target, and does it have an 'install:' line?
[16:23] <snapfractalpop> going afk.. peace
[16:23] <bekks> idasvleter: Change your IP settings? :)
[16:24] <voot> nacc: make install works perfectly find on the origin system
[16:24] <curlyears> just checking:  am I invisible today?
[16:24] <voot> nacc: it just doesn't work after it's transferred
[16:24] <brunch875> curlyears: I see you :p
[16:24] <TJ-> jwitko: i suspect your issue is bug 1568729
[16:25] <nacc> voot: you may want to look at `checkinstall`, fwiw, but you didn't answer the question?
[16:25] <root____5> i would like to ask for help. i have  a running server  ubuntu 15.04  and i bought a new  system and  i tried to back up the older server and restore it  in the new system. i tried to use   tar -cvpzf     /media/backup/backup.tar.gz   /   but when restoring the backup  in the new system, i can no longer login and if shut down the system  it can't boot. i really need help about how i can restore this back
[16:25] <root____5> up in the new system
[16:25] <ryneke> TJ-: so i ran the command for v1 ("gpg --edit-key") and gave it ultimate trust but "gpg2 --list-keys" still doesn't show it
[16:25] <idasvleter> im trying to connect but it says access is denied
[16:25] <\9> root____5: 15.04 is EOL
[16:25] <idasvleter> im trying to connect but it says access is denied (openssh)
[16:25] <bekks> So enter the correct credentials.
[16:26] <idasvleter> i di
[16:26] <idasvleter> i did*
[16:26] <bekks> Then access would not have been denied.
[16:26] <ryneke> TJ-: should i delete the flag file again?
[16:26] <TJ-> ryneke: I'm not sure what the heck is going on, but I'm sure it's because the import has only 1/2 completed, and the thing is 'confused'
[16:26] <bekks> idasvleter: Are you using NAT for your vm?
[16:26] <jwitko> TJ- This bug exists in trusty as well ?
[16:26] <OerHeks> root____5, that would restore all packages from 15.04 ...
[16:26] <ryneke> TJ-: ok, so re-importing should help right?
[16:26] <jwitko> TJ- everything seems to be referencing Xenial
[16:27] <voot> nacc: yes it includes an install: line
[16:27] <curlyears> root____5: I think parrt of your problewm could be that that approach won't copy the partition table (I could well be wrong)
[16:27] <TJ-> ryneke: I'm wondering if you should copy the entire .gnupg/ directory to a back-up name, copy your v1 secret ring and public keyring over, and then let gpg2 do a fresh import attempt
[16:27] <\9> idasvleter: try use the -v switch with ssh to get more detailed output as to why is it failing
[16:27] <idasvleter> bekks: what
[16:27] <\9> idasvleter: assuming you control the ssh server, check the output of /var/log/auth.log, it could have something interesting
[16:27] <bekks> idasvleter: You are using a VM, dont you?
[16:27] <idasvleter> bekks: what
[16:28] <\9> er, check that file, not its output
[16:28] <TJ-> ryneke: also, in gpg2, you can simply re-import your friend's key "gpg2 --keyserver keyserver.ubuntu.com --recv-keys <friends-key-id>"
[16:28] <ryneke> TJ-: ok will do. the files would be "secring.gpg" for secrete ring and "pubring.gpg" for public keyring, right?
[16:28] <TJ-> ryneke: I'm not sure which belong to v1 and which to v2, I'll have to read the man pages
[16:29] <jwitko> TJ- also I'm not sure what makes y ou think that bug is related to my issue ?
[16:29] <idasvleter> hi
[16:29] <idasvleter> how to copy a folder with scp while tar?
[16:29] <TJ-> ryneke: ahhh... helpful notes: "man gpg2" and search down to the section "FILES" (press /^FILES and hit Enter)
[16:30] <ryneke> TJ-: ok
[16:30] <bekks> idasvleter: scp -r, no tar needed.
[16:30] <TJ-> jwitko: similar scenario from what you've told us, similar fragment of a stack trace
[16:30] <root____5> so who do i do to include partition table in my backup?
[16:30] <idasvleter> im using windows winscp
[16:30] <curlyears> *sigh* gpg is too complicated for anything I need.  The only thing I ever used pgp for was sending troll messages to like  minded frieds full of security "key words", designed to make the Feds waste hours and hours of machine time decoding nothing worthwhile (we were mean hackers in those days, it was outright war)
[16:30] <bekks> idasvleter: Select the folder, copy it.
[16:30] <\9> we don't support winscp here
[16:31] <TJ-> jwitko: which kernel version's are the affected systems using?
[16:31] <idasvleter> i able to connect but i want to transfer a folder but the server doesn't have available size for tar and in windows I can't copy the folder because of some windows rules
[16:31] <curlyears> root____5: I wish I could tell you, Some one here knows, though
[16:31] <OerHeks> jwitko, memory issues .. have you tried to run memest86?
[16:31] <root____5> thank you anyway.let me keep trying may be finally i will find the way!
[16:32] <TJ-> root____5: is it GPT or MBR?
[16:32] <root____5> GPT
[16:32] <TJ-> root____5: see "man sgdisk" and the --backup=file" option
[16:32] <curlyears> ANYONE: root____5 needs to know how to correctly copy the partition table from one disk to another
[16:32] <curlyears> thanks, TJ-
[16:33] <TJ-> there's nothing the 'man' cannot answer!
[16:33] <curlyears> \true, TJ- (except possibly whether he is a member of the developers team)
[16:33] <TJ-> curlyears: "man man" as in man pages
[16:34] <curlyears> ah..still would like to know the answer to my question, though
[16:35] <curlyears> Once again:  does anyone know any way shhort of editing the source and recompiling, to change the size of the cursor in gnome?
[16:36] <jinxi> I have been using TW for a few weeks now. Sadly I still type in sudo apt-get
[16:36] <jinxi> :-(
[16:36] <jwitko> TJ- ubuntu 14.04.4
[16:36] <curlyears> I only have one working eye, and cannot see the entire screen on my 27" monitor, and I am constantly losing ghrte location oof the cursor
[16:36] <jwitko> OerHeks, not yet.  but i find it unlikely that memory failed across 4 systems in 4 days
[16:36] <OerHeks> cursors are part of your theme, use unity tweak to edit that
[16:36] <root____5> quit
[16:37] <curlyears> OerHeks: OK...where do I fine unity tweaks util?
[16:37] <tgm4883> curlyears: I through there was a button to find the cursor?
[16:37] <OerHeks> softwarecenter
[16:37] <TJ-> jwitko: which has the kernel from 15.10 (v4.2) ?
[16:37] <curlyears> tgm4883: :  if there is, I am unaware of it
[16:38] <jwitko> TJ- no way older than that.  3.13
[16:38] <jwitko> 3.13.0-46-generic
[16:38] <TJ-> jwitko: so they're not using the Hardware Enablement stack?
[16:38] <jwitko> TJ- I don't know what that is
[16:38] <jwitko> but I don't think so
[16:38] <OerHeks> tgm4883,  that used to be, removed now
[16:38] <TJ-> jwitko: from the wiki: "By default, the 14.04.4 point release will ship with a newer 4.2 Linux kernel from Ubuntu 15.10, ..."
[16:39] <tgm4883> OerHeks: :(
[16:39] <OerHeks> tgm4883, like this http://askubuntu.com/a/230103
[16:39] <TJ-> jwitko: that bug report I referenced looks closest to the screenshot and scenrio you've described
[16:39] <ryneke> TJ-: ok, so i deleted all files in ~/.gnupg, put pubring.gpg and secring.gpg back in and tried importing my friend's file - no luck though
[16:40] <TJ-> ryneke: well as I said you can fetch the friend's key directly, no need to import it from v1
[16:40] <ryneke> TJ-: seahorse had my own key imported but greyed out
[16:40] <TJ-> ryneke:  "gpg2 --keyserver keyserver.ubuntu.com --recv-keys <friends-key-id>"
[16:40] <ryneke> TJ-: well, i only have it as an .asc file
[16:41] <TJ-> ryneke: ahhh, OK, then you need the --import option then
[16:41] <ryneke> TJ-: you mean gpg2 --import <key-id>?
[16:42] <TJ-> ryneke: for an ASC file "gpg2 --import file.asc"
[16:43] <TJ-> ryneke: as for the greyed out bit, I'm assuming that's indicating the key isn't ultimately trusted, so that'll need the whole "gpg2 --edit-key <key-id>"  trust > 5 (ultimate) > save " process once more
[16:43] <squigz> Does anyone recognize the nick skraito or smecin?
[16:43] <root_of_eviler> im trying to write a kickstart, and neither %packages nor preseed pkgsel/include seems to be working - anyone done this before?
[16:43] <uptime> squigz: Indeed, why's that?
[16:44] <curlyears> )-:  went into software center, found unity tweak tool, clicked "more information" it came up[ and said it was available from "universe" so I clicked "use this source."  The "use this source greys out, sand the progress icon on the top bar just sits and spins forever, with nnothing happening
[16:44] <squigz> uptime: may I pm you?
[16:44] <uptime> squigz: Please do :)
[16:44] <ryneke> TJ-: ok, so it was imported and "gpg2 --list-keys" does now show both keys... but seahorse doesn't show it
[16:45] <TJ-> ryneke: seahorse uses the gpg-agent I believe. It might be easiest to do a log-out and log-in just to ensure all the bits are in sync with each other.
[16:45] <XxNemoXx> how do i install ubuntu
[16:45] <ryneke> TJ-: HA!
[16:45] <ryneke> TJ-: i gave his key ultimate trust with "gpg2 --edit-key" - now it shows up!
[16:46] <XxNemoXx> ryneke
[16:46] <TJ-> ryneke: that doesn't sound right, ultimate should usually only be for your own key, but if it doesn't show up in seahorse until set to ultimate that suggests the View > Show All isn't working correctly
[16:46] <TJ-> !install | XxNemoXx
[16:46] <ryneke> TJ-: ok what trust level should i give it?
[16:47] <XxNemoXx> TJ i need you to type /quit
[16:47] <TJ-> ryneke: I'd think "fully" would be correct
[16:47] <TJ-> XxNemoXx: and I need you to behave and follow the channel guidelines shown in the topic
[16:47] <XxNemoXx> TJ i need you to type /quit
[16:47] <ryneke> TJ-: ok, did that, it's still there
[16:48] <nacc> root_of_eviler: sure, what is happening?
[16:48] <XxNemoXx> ok
[16:48] <root_of_eviler> nacc: so far, nothing
[16:48] <TJ-> ryneke: so now Evolution (finally!) can see the key?
[16:48] <root_of_eviler> nacc: i do get one log line where it looks like its trying to install the packages, but they dont end up installed
[16:48] <ryneke> TJ-: YES! xD
[16:49] <TJ-> ryneke: about &%^&(&! time!
[16:49] <ryneke> TJ-: and evolution is using it too
[16:49] <ryneke> TJ-: hehe
[16:49] <nacc> root_of_eviler: can you pastebin that line?
[16:49] <nacc> root_of_eviler: and possibly your kickstart file?
[16:49] <ryneke> TJ-: well thanks so much for your advice!!
[16:49] <root_of_eviler> sure, hold on
[16:49] <ryneke> TJ-: ... and patience
[16:50] <doomwhisp> I am having a problem installing ubuntu 16 from 14. During the installation i pressed (windows key)+L trying to lock the screen, and something went wrong. I'm seeing a black screen for a long time. What should i do?
[16:51] <XxNemoXx> LAGG
[16:51] <bekks> doomwhisp: Once 16.04.1 is released, the direct upgrade path from 14.04 to 16.04.1 will be supported.
[16:52] <XxNemoXx> bekks
[16:52] <root_of_eviler> nacc: the kickstart - http://pastebin.com/iJgnWtqd
[16:52] <XxNemoXx> that wont work
[16:52] <bekks> XxNemoXx: What wont work?
[16:52] <Faiz> hey
[16:52] <mcphail> doomwhisp: upgrading from 14.04 -> 16.04 isn't supported yet, and I'm sure screen locking during an update isn't a terribly good idea. If you log on to a virtual terminal, are there still dpkg processes running?
[16:52] <XxNemoXx> someone kick me i cant leave
[16:53] <XxNemoXx> my mouse wont work
[16:53] <Faiz> how to kick /
[16:53] <Faiz> ?
[16:53]  * dax blinks
[16:53] <tgm4883> XxNemoXx: /wc
[16:53] <tgm4883> XxNemoXx: or /part or /quit should both work
[16:53] <root_of_eviler> nacc: the log line: http://pastebin.com/5pECVjKz
[16:53] <OerHeks> XxNemoXx, please not again, you did tthis yesterday too
[16:54] <Faiz> hmm
[16:54] <OerHeks> XxNemoXx, next time: turn of power
[16:54] <XxNemoXx> d
[16:54] <coffeeguy> tab key to edit box /quit
[16:55] <Queenslayer> Deleted Ubuntu
[16:55] <Queenslayer> UEFI issues are just too overwhelming
[16:56] <tgm4883> Queenslayer: ok
[16:56] <jinxi> Queenslayer: install Windows ;-)
[16:56] <XxNemoXx> it wont work!
[16:56] <Queenslayer> jinxi, my love is for Linux
[16:56] <nacc> root_of_eviler: is there a reason you're using kickstart rather thatn preseed?
[16:56] <Queenslayer> Not Ubuntu per se
[16:56] <squigz> /close
[16:56] <squigz> Sorry
[16:56] <nacc> root_of_eviler: also, i think your kickstart technically has syntax errors (missing %end)
[16:56] <root_of_eviler> nacc: need to eventually integrate with spacewalk if possible
[16:56] <dax> XxNemoXx: Cut it out, please. Getting kinda tired of this nonsense.
[16:56] <netameta> Origami !
[16:57] <XxNemoXx> ill leave it
[16:58] <Queenslayer> jinxi, I have installed Windows 10
[16:58] <Wilson06> WHY ARE YOU BEING MEAN TO XXNEMOXX
[16:58] <jinxi> Queenslayer: what distro are you going to install?
[16:58] <bekks> Wilson06: Stop trolling.
[16:58] <Queenslayer> Battery life is way better than Ubuntu 16.04
[16:58] <nacc> root_of_eviler: ok, not sure that's possible, but maybe it is :) my personal preference would be to get a preseed install working, then replace whatever bits you want with kickstart equivalents, as supported by ubuntu
[16:58] <Queenslayer> jinxi, probably debian or Fedora
[16:58] <jinxi> Queenslayer: why not opensuse TW?
[16:58] <tgm4883> omg what a noob
[16:59] <Queenslayer> Opensuse lol
[16:59] <Queenslayer> Not yet
[17:00] <root_of_eviler> nacc: which section do you think needs an %end?  everythings got one except the main and packages, which dont seem to require them per other docs and examples
[17:00] <nacc> root_of_eviler: i'm not sure %packages is supported by ubuntu's kickstart parser, based upon a lack of handler in http://bazaar.launchpad.net/~ubuntu-installer/kickseed/master/files/head:/handlers/
[17:00] <Faiz> hmm
[17:01] <Faiz> my show desktop icon has been lost
[17:01] <Faiz> nd my shift workspace too
[17:01] <Queenslayer> jinxi, is it a common issue with laptops that come pre-installed with Windows that the battery life is optimised for them?
[17:01] <OerHeks> Queenslayer, so your visit here is useless?
[17:01] <Faiz> nd my terminal is blank
[17:01] <Queenslayer> Because Ubuntu gave me half the time
[17:01] <Queenslayer> OerHeks, not really
[17:01] <jinxi> Queenslayer: I don't know
[17:01] <root_of_eviler> nacc: i was a bit confused about that as well, as package selection is listed as supported on https://help.ubuntu.com/community/KickstartCompatibility#Integration_with_Preseed
[17:02] <Faiz> how to pm someone ?
[17:02] <squigz> Faiz: //msg <name> <message>
[17:02] <squigz> one /
[17:02] <Faiz> thx
[17:02] <Queenslayer> OerHeks, I actually love the new Unity version
[17:02] <root_of_eviler> nacc: thats why i tried the preseed pkgsel/include, but it didnt seem to work either
[17:02] <Queenslayer> But just doesn't work well with my hardware
[17:02] <nacc> root_of_eviler: hrm, you're right, strange
[17:02] <Queenslayer> Probably look for an older version
[17:03] <jinxi> Queenslayer: what laptop?
[17:03] <Queenslayer> Acer
[17:03] <TJ-> Queenslayer: battery life issues are usually caused by bugs in the firmware on the motherboard, specifically in the ACPI DSDT, where it doesn't provide full functionality unless it detects a Windows OS. Linux can report itself as a Windows OS to work around that bug
[17:03] <jinxi> Queenslayer: what model?
[17:03] <Faiz> does anyone hve the idea on how to repair my blank terminal ?
[17:03] <Queenslayer> TJ-, that is handy to know
[17:04] <Queenslayer> jinxi, a crap one lol.  E5-411
[17:04] <TJ-> Faiz: log in remotely and maybe use something like light-locker-command -d"
[17:04] <Faiz> hmm
[17:04] <Faiz> im just a newbie
[17:04] <Faiz> so how to log in remotely ?
[17:04] <jinxi> Queenslayer: it is a good laptop
[17:04] <Queenslayer> It's okay
[17:04] <henry__> Hola?
[17:04] <Queenslayer> Solid battery life is what makes me keep it
[17:04] <TJ-> Faiz: or else switch to another console with Ctrl+Alt+F1 and see if you can log-in there, which would give you chance to kill the screensaver/lock
[17:05] <nicomachus> Queenslayer: there are some options here which may be helpful: https://askubuntu.com/questions/400/tips-to-extend-battery-life-for-laptops-and-notebooks
[17:05] <henry__> Alguien puede recomendarme el equivalente ubuntu de pdf converter proffesional?
[17:05] <nacc> root_of_eviler: what version of ubuntu, fwiw?
[17:05] <root_of_eviler> nacc: 16.04
[17:05] <Faiz> tht isnt screen saver
[17:06] <TJ-> henry__: try Master PDF Editor
[17:06] <Faiz> my graphics are probably damaged
[17:06] <Faiz> there r also black borders around every window
[17:06] <Faiz> plus i cant see anything in them , the notifications are black as well
[17:06] <henry__> Quiero unir varias páginas en un pdf. Master PDF lo hará?
[17:07] <TJ-> Faiz: sounds like a symptom of the packages in the midst of the release upgrade
[17:07] <Faiz> hmm
[17:07] <henry__> Lo probaré. Thanks!
[17:07] <Faiz> so any way to solve tht stuff ?
[17:07] <squigz> Did you try turning it off and on again?
[17:08] <Queenslayer> Thanks nicomachus
[17:08] <Queenslayer> I've bookmarked it
[17:09] <squigz> Faiz: there is no need to PM me..
[17:09] <squigz> Yes, I was. Try rebooting. :P
[17:09] <Faiz> oh
[17:09] <Faiz> i hev
[17:09] <Faiz> hve*
[17:10] <Faiz> several times
[17:10] <squigz> Ah
[17:10] <squigz> That's about as much help as I can be, then. :P
[17:10] <Faiz> been a week since i found black borders
[17:10] <Faiz> nd nearly 4 days since my terminal is blank
[17:10] <Faiz> i cant see anything in it , but the commands work in them
[17:11] <Faiz> so to avoid confusion im using UXTerm
[17:18] <nacc> root_of_eviler: sorry, was otp -- i'm not sure what's happening unfortunately, does that log line *not* get printed if you don't use %packages or pkgsel?
[17:19] <nacc> root_of_eviler: which installer is this kickstart/preseed-ing?
[17:19] <nacc> root_of_eviler: as in, desktop, server, etc
[17:20] <root_of_eviler> server, and i didnt see that line come up until i started using pkgsel
[17:22] <nacc> root_of_eviler: hrm, my only suggestion would be to try starting with https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Cobbler/Preseed and getting it preseeded exactly how you want, just to verify it works properly. And, to be clear, everythign but the package selection is working?
[17:24] <root_of_eviler> nacc: so far, yes everything else is working.
[17:24] <DrMontilla_>  my alsa is going mute everytime i reboot or logoff/on. i can run alsamixer, select the soundcard and un-mute, but the settings reset every reboot or logon. any help?
[17:28] <morfblau> hello all.  curious to know if anyone has found a better alternative for inline PGP for email on Ubuntu than Thunderbird/Enigmail?
[17:30] <ijens> Hi, Mint Cinnamon 17.3 sound suddenly stopped, speakers sometimes just short buzz
[17:30] <dax> ubottu: mintsupport | ijens
[17:31] <ijens> ooops wrong channel
[17:31] <ijens> sorry
[17:34] <root_of_eviler> nacc: does preseed install dependencies by default?
[17:36] <toorap> hi all
[17:41] <nacc> root_of_eviler: how do you mean? for a given package?
[17:43] <root_of_eviler> nacc: yeah - openssh-server has lots of deps.  maybe its failing silently when hitting the user prompt.
[17:46] <root_of_eviler> hmm so i just checked out the full syslog, and the line openssh-server appears in is the list of suggested packages
[17:47] <nacc> root_of_eviler: that's not a preseed thing, but an apt/dpkg thing and yes, it can't/won't install a package in isolation
[17:48] <nacc> root_of_eviler: pkgsel doesn't have a user prompt
[17:48] <nacc> root_of_eviler: while in contrast the apt frontend does
[17:48] <root_of_eviler> nacc: that makes sense, woudlnt be able to install much if it didnt
[17:49] <nacc> root_of_eviler: yeah :)
[17:54] <vortex_> i need some help
[17:54] <vortex_> i run apt-get update and im getting a warning
[17:54] <vortex_> W: http://us.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/dists/precise/Release.gpg: Signature by key 630239CC130E1A7FD81A27B140976EAF437D05B5 uses weak digest algorithm (SHA1)
[17:55] <ciccio> testù
[17:55] <genii> vortex_: The minimum key strength for repositories was increased recently. It is just a warning and will not prevent you from installing or removing anything.
[17:55] <vortex_> ok but is there any way to clean it up
[17:56] <napalm_> not really just remove uninstall whatever is giving you that error if it bothers you.
[17:56] <genii> vortex_: No. It will only go away if the devs sign the precise repositories with a stronger key.
[17:56] <vortex_> i see
[17:56] <nacc> vortex_: no, it's a repository issue, not a client issue
[17:56] <vortex_> thank you guys
[17:56] <ciccio> list
[17:56] <napalm_> If you look into the crystal language it's repos are SHA-1
[17:57] <napalm_> blaming everything on the devs -.-
[17:57] <ciccio> non ci capisco niente
[17:57] <ciccio> chi mi aiuta
[17:57] <genii> !it | ciccio
[17:57] <brunch875> beat me to it
[17:58] <ciccio> grazie
[17:59] <napalm_> Ha avuto un problema con una chiave debole SHA .
[18:01] <MonkeyDust> !it
[18:03] <brunch875> hmm I just tried to drag and  drop a file into an executable
[18:03] <brunch875> I expected it to ./executable file
[18:04] <brunch875> but it didn't actually do anything. Am I missing something? :D¿
[18:05] <morfblau> I find that only works with certain executables as well, same behavior.
[18:05] <nacc> i'm assuming you mean a launcher? or are you actually dragging to something in nautilus in /usr/bin ?
[18:06] <nacc> i would think it would depend on the launcher if so
[18:06] <Jordan_U> brunch875: I don't have any DE up at the moment but I would expect that to work if you were dragging onto .desktop files (launchers) but not onto random executable files.
[18:06] <brunch875> Oh I see...
[18:06] <Pici> I like relay/25
[18:07] <Pici> oops
[18:10] <jinxi> can some one recommend me a wireless USB headset with linux support?
[18:11] <MonkeyDust> jinxi  #ubuntu-offtopic
[18:11] <Pici> jinxi: ##hardware would probably be a better place to ask
[18:12] <genii> ##hardware or ##linux
[18:15] <morfblau> hello all.  curious to know if anyone has found a better alternative for inline PGP for email on Ubuntu than Thunderbird/Enigmail?
[18:17] <TJ-> morfblau: 'better' is a personal judgment; what feature are you missing?
[18:17] <morfblau> good point.  A better way to phrase my question would be, "Does Thunderbird/Enigmail have any drawbacks which prevent it from being a truly secure solution?"
[18:18] <Tume> can i disable the "piip" sound when changing the volume?
[18:20] <akis> hi all. in previous distros was available the way to disable user's name at the log in screen according these: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/LightDM . Is it available this option in 16.04 too?
[18:22] <and0uille> Yo
[18:23] <TJ-> morfblau: not that I'm aware of, although if you're using it with IMAP4 be aware that if you allow unencrypted drafts the plaintext will be on the server, not local on the client
[18:23] <morfblau> TJ: understood, thanks!
[18:23] <stacy-> can ubuntu(laptop) share internet with other computers?
[18:23] <stacy-> using wifi?
[18:23] <OerHeks> akis, seems so, yes http://www.askmeaboutlinux.com/?p=3255, but the original factoid you posted is more advanced
[18:24] <TJ-> stacy-: yes, as an Access Point of an Ad-Hoc network, although the functions available can depend on the wifi hardware's chipset, its firmware, and the driver
[18:25] <stacy-> TJ how can i setup a WPA using a ubuntu laptop?
[18:26] <akis> Oerheks: thank you for the link provided. i had an idea to do the same but i was afraid to harm my system. i will try it right now to see if works.
[18:26] <TJ-> akis: I have "/etc/lightdm/lightdm.conf.d/70-hide-users.conf " with the 3 lines: "[SeatDefaults]" "greeter-hide-users=true" and "allow-guest=false"
[18:27] <stacy-> TJ.. is the only way to do this from shell command for the network manager?
[18:27] <akis> TJ: @14.04 i had greeter-hide-users=true greeter-show-manual-login=true in /etc/lightdm/lightdm.conf
[18:28] <OerHeks> stacy-, it is all in the networkmanager now http://i.imgur.com/VsbqMfO.jpg
[18:28] <TJ-> stacy-: you can use "nmtui" (text user interface) or "nmcli" (command line interface)
[18:29] <stacy-> TJ.. do i need to rung nmtui as administrator?
[18:38] <chris64> hi
[18:38] <stacy-> hi chris64
[18:39] <stacy-> are you familar with ubuntu wifi?
[18:39] <chris64> I'm troubling to compile a c++ program that requires a thread library. I've build boost 1.61.0 and clang 3.9 myself but it fails to find the pthread libary installed on the system. It's Ubuntu 14.04 LTS
[18:40] <chris64> do have some hints I could try? at the moment. I have no idea what to do else
[18:41] <nacc> chris64: what program? and what is the exact error?
[18:41] <stacy-> i did the wifi sharing last year using nmtui before
[18:41] <stacy-> but the new ubuntu version seems differnt
[18:41] <OerHeks> stacy-, again: it is all in the networkmanager now http://i.imgur.com/VsbqMfO.jpg
[18:41] <zumba_addict> hey folks, how can I check if our server is ubuntu or fedora if /etc/issue have been cleared?
[18:41] <chris64> nacc: a private one. it's using cmake as a meta build system and configures this by "find_package(Threads)"
[18:41] <\9> stacy-: of course the new ubuntu version seems different, it wouldn't be a new ubuntu version otherwise
[18:42] <OerHeks> zumba_addict, cat /etc/issue # shows it
[18:42] <nacc> OerHeks: i'm guessing zumba_addict deleted or emptied that file :)
[18:42] <zumba_addict> i just mentioned about issue file :)
[18:42] <stacy-> oerherks.. i am trying to use WPA but WPA is only available in nmtui
[18:42] <nacc> zumba_addict: you could look at /proc/version as the kernels are quite different
[18:42] <\9> zumba_addict: check whether you have apt-get or yum installed
[18:42] <genii> zumba_addict: lsb_release -c
[18:43] <zumba_addict> got it
[18:43] <stacy-> oerheks.. is WPA available in ubuntu 15?
[18:43] <MonkeyDust_> nmtui saved my day
[18:43] <Keitaro> hello all
[18:43] <zumba_addict> the server is rebooting
[18:43] <Keitaro> i have some question about the command line plz
[18:43] <Keitaro> i am a little bit noob
[18:43] <cekilic> close
[18:43] <\9> !ask | Keitaro
[18:43] <OerHeks> stacy-, wpa /wpa personal and wpa/wpa enterprise is available .. see security tab
[18:43] <MonkeyDust_> Keitaro  let's hear it, in one line
[18:44] <nacc> chris64: are you hitting something like? http://stackoverflow.com/questions/5395309/cmake-and-threads ?
[18:45] <Uranium> stacy-	can somebody please help me with using ubuntu laptop as a wifi network sharing?
[18:45] <Uranium> ^^^ stacy-   there u go now stop asking that in #opencart
[18:46] <OerHeks> !crosspost
[18:46] <stacy-> uranium.. for some reason when i go into edit connection ..that specific window doesnt show for the editing
[18:47] <stacy-> oerkeks.. please guide on how to get to this window interface http://i.imgur.com/VsbqMfO.jpg
[18:48] <chris64> nacc: yes. but find_package(Threads) fails altough /usr/include/pthreads.h is there :(
[18:48] <OerHeks> edit connections > new > select the wifi tab
[18:48] <chris64> nacc: */usr/include/pthread.h
[18:48] <OerHeks> * and look to all the tabs, dhcp/dns and more
[18:49] <nacc> chris64: is it this? http://stackoverflow.com/questions/24813827/cmake-failing-to-detect-pthreads-due-to-warnings/25130590#25130590
[18:50] <MonkeyDust_> stacy-  type sta and then hit tab to autocomplete ... do this for other nicknames too
[18:50] <stacy-> oerkeks.. the connection i created isnt showing in the network ..and i cant detect that connection with my other devices
[18:50] <chris64> nacc: I can check it but I'm on cmake 3.5.2 :|
[18:51] <stacy-> monkeydust..are  you refering to the network wifi configueration?
[18:51] <MonkeyDust_> stacy-  no, to this channel #ubuntu
[18:51] <nacc> chris64: ok, i think this is a cmake issue (rather than a generic ubuntu issue) -- someone else with more experience with it will probably need to help, if that's the case
[18:52] <stacy-> stacy- stacks88 Stanislasss Stanto StatelessCat StathisA
[18:52] <chris64> ehhhh
[18:52] <chris64> yes, it's there. I'll check if my own cmake build is using this file
[18:52] <chris64> nacc:
[18:52] <stacy-> ?
[18:52] <mohammed> slt
[18:52] <mohammed> cv
[18:53] <Guest65305> mmmm
[18:53] <stacy-> oerhks
[18:54] <stacy-> oerhks.. i have created the name for the wireless ..but it does not show .. is there a step i misseD?
[18:55] <OerHeks> did you fill in Bssid  = broadcast ssid, not ssid
[18:55] <nacc> chris64: ack, sorry i couldn't be of more help
[18:55] <OerHeks> and checked ipv4/ipv6 settings?
[18:55] <OerHeks> security WPA, and key ?
[18:56] <chris64> nacc: it's failing to compile pthread.h with this error: /usr/include/sched.h:28:10: fatal error: 'stddef.h' file not found
[18:56] <chris64> nacc: seems that it's not the cmake bug
[18:57] <nitish> I am unable to install anything in ubuntu 16.04 lts.
[18:57] <Wicaeed> Is there any way to change the resolution of the kernel panic screen? I have a system that for some reason isn't logging a kernel panic and also refusing to boot, I'm trying to get more information displayed about the error message >_<
[18:57] <TJ-> chris64: check the -I (include directories) to ensure the parent of stddef.h is included
[18:58] <nacc> chris64: yeah, i think the stddef.h comes from /usr/include/linux, e.g.
[18:58] <nacc> nitish: please provide more details? fresh install? gui or cli?
[18:58] <nitish> I am unable to install anything. Its showing unable to locate pacage.
[18:58] <chris64> nacc: is that ubuntu specific?
[18:59] <nacc> chris64: yeah, that's the path on my ubuntu machine, i should have said
[18:59] <nitish> nacc: Its showing unable to locate package.
[18:59] <nacc> nitish: what package?
[18:59] <nacc> nitish: did you run `apt-get update` ?
[18:59] <nitish> nacc: any package.
[18:59] <nacc> nitish: give an example.
[18:59] <nacc> Wicaeed: well, the kernel has panic'd at that point :)
[18:59] <nitish> nacc: I've already updated it
[19:00] <nitish> few days back
[19:00] <nitish> again updating.
[19:00] <TJ-> Wicaeed: from the boot-loader menu, add to the "linux ..." line "debug early_printk=vga" and remove any "quiet splash"
[19:00] <nacc> Wicaeed: many kernel panics won't get logged, as the kernel needs to be operational for disk operations, etc.
[19:00] <nacc> nitish: you have to update regularly
[19:00] <stacy-> my connection somehow got disconnected... oerkeks
[19:00] <nacc> nitish: that is, it's recommended to run an update before an install command (within reason, of course, if you do a bunch of installs in a row, you don't need to update each time)
[19:01] <nitish> nacc: ok. updating.
[19:01] <nitish> nacc: I can only update the system, and cant play any video.
[19:01] <stacy-> oerkeks.. do i leaev the  SSID blank and fill in only the BSSID ?
[19:02] <nitish> nacc: Every package is shwoing unable to locate.
[19:02] <nacc> nitish: you still haven't answered my question -- name a pacakge.
[19:02] <akis> hi again. i just installed my samsung ml-2160 series printer using the driver provided by Samsung which i used under 14.04 too. the printer was recognized as 'ML-2160' and worked properly, but i choosed once more to install it using probably 16.04 drivers and recognized it as "ML-2160-series". After that i had 2 same printers and i deleted the second one "ML-2160-series' and i kept the initial 'ML-2160'. I rebooted (user's hide works now properl
[19:02] <akis> y) and i saw that there is only one printer but instead of 'ML-2160' now says "ML-2160-series". Is there any way to see somewhere if there any left files on my system after i deleted one of them? where sysem keeps printers files?
[19:02] <nitish> nacc: vlc
[19:02] <nacc> nitish: can you pastebin the output of `apt-get update; apt-get install vlc` ?
[19:03] <genii> !info vlc
[19:03] <stacy-> when ii try to fill in the BSSID.. the save icon greys out and wont let me save
[19:03] <genii> Hm, in universe
[19:03] <nacc> genii: good point; nitish do you have the universe component enabled?
[19:03] <zumba_addict> so most likely this linux is a Fedora - Linux version 4.5.2-302.fc24.x86_64 (mockbuild@bkernel01.phx2.fedoraproject.org) (gcc version 6.0.0 20160406 (Red Hat 6.0.0-0.20) (GCC) ) #1 SMP Wed Apr 27 14:22:29 UTC 2016
[19:04] <nacc> zumba_addict: yes it is fc24 based, most likely
[19:04] <zumba_addict> thanks
[19:04] <nacc> zumba_addict: i mean, in theory, one could be malicious and fake all that
[19:04] <zumba_addict> that's true
[19:04] <nacc> zumba_addict: so it's not foolproof and lsb_release is probably better
[19:04] <nitish> nacc: Its showing unable to locate package  vlc.
[19:04] <stacy-> oerkheks.. how can i edit the BSSID without it being greyed out
[19:04] <zumba_addict> it doesn't have apt-get, only yum too
[19:04] <nacc> nitish: pastebin as requested, or possibly you just need to add universe
[19:04] <zumba_addict> so most likely it's a fedora
[19:04] <nacc> zumba_addict: well that puts it in the rhel family :)
[19:04] <zumba_addict> yup :)
[19:04] <nacc> zumba_addict: and the kernel is a fc24 kernel
[19:05] <zumba_addict> got it
[19:05] <nitish> nacc: actually this problem is in my another pc. So, I am unable to paste the exact output.
[19:05] <nitish> nacc: But every package is shown unable to locate package package_name
[19:06] <OerHeks> stacy-, perhaps the wificard or driver is not suited for adhoc sharing
[19:06] <TJ-> stacy-: see this example: https://iam.tj/projects/misc/nmtui-AP-config.png
[19:06] <nacc> nitish: it's not possible, really, for me to debug it without that output. If all the packages you tried were in universe, then maybe you're missing the universe component in your sources
[19:06] <OerHeks> stacy-, it is also a good idea to disable wifi first, before editting
[19:06] <nitish> nacc: how can I add universe?
[19:06] <chris64> TJ-: nacc: Seems like gcc ships this file on it's own: /usr/lib/gcc/x86_64-linux-gnu/4.8/include/stddef.h
[19:06] <chris64> in
[19:06] <chris64> http://packages.ubuntu.com/trusty/amd64/libgcc-4.8-dev/filelist
[19:07] <stacy-> oerheks.. i used a name testtest as the wifi name.. can this name be useD?
[19:07] <nacc> !universe | nitish
[19:07] <bekks> stacy-: Sure.
[19:07] <stacy-> oerheks.. the mode is infrastructure right?
[19:08] <TJ-> chris64: the package that installs the one you want is libgcc-5-dev
[19:08] <stacy-> bekks.. it still shows greyed and wont let me save the connection
[19:08] <TJ-> chris64: (on 16.04)
[19:08] <nacc> chris64: ah yes, then you want libgcc-...dev
[19:08] <nikhil_> hey hi
[19:08] <nitish> ubottu: please explain more. I am unable to understand & I know that you are a bot.
[19:08] <chris64> TJ-: nacc: I've just found out that clang ships them too. so they're included implicitly. I'll check the paths of my custom clang build. http://clang.llvm.org/docs/FAQ.html
[19:09] <Guest26710> what is the matter nitish
[19:09] <Guest26710> ?
[19:09] <nacc> nitish: did you read the links?
[19:09] <stacy-> the save icon still does not let me save in the editing connection
[19:09] <nitish> Guest26710: I am unable to install anything in ubuntu 16.04. Really frustrated.
[19:09] <nitish> nacc: nope.
[19:10] <Guest26710> ok tried restarting ?
[19:10] <nitish> nacc: I am trying to fix this. Don't have time to read useless long articles. sorry
[19:10] <stacy-> can somebody help?
[19:10] <akis> does anyone know why thunderbird's icon on indicator plugin is so small @ 16.04?
[19:12] <Guest26710> nitish try this commands" sudo rm /var/lib/apt/lists/lock" "sudo rm /var/cache/apt/archives/lock"
[19:12] <nacc> nitish: that's ridiculous. the links are not long articles, they are an explanation of ubuntu's components and how to enable the ones you want
[19:13] <nacc> nitish: or you could, as i mentioned, provide output from the commands on the system in question, i have no way of knowing what the actual issue is otherwise, beyond guessing and referring you to documentation
[19:13] <nitish> Guest26710 I did this. This doesn't work in ubuntu 16.04
[19:13] <Guest26710> ok
[19:13] <nacc> Guest26710: those don't seem like valid suggestions for the issue in question
[19:14] <nitish> nacc: right now I am updating. after update I'll
[19:14] <nacc> Guest26710: whereby nitish is getting 'unable to locate pacakge X'. You certainly don't restart for that, and apt would complain differently if it could not acquire its own lock
[19:14] <nitish> nacc: and how can I pastebin output?
[19:14] <stacy-> it wont let me save when i fill in the BSSID...please help
[19:15] <nacc> !paste | nitish
[19:15] <nacc> nitish: pastebinit should work
[19:16] <stacy-> hi nacc
[19:16] <nitish> nacc: pastebinit is not installed in my that pc, and I am unable to install anything. So I tell me how can I patebin it.
[19:16] <nitish> nacc: sudo apt install pastebinit showing "unable to locate the package".
[19:17] <stacy-> please help regarding network edit.. when i try to edit BSSID.. the save button goes grey
[19:17] <glass> i am having trouble viewing my pdf files some of the text has a block with a x in it instead of letters
[19:18] <jagveer> hello
[19:18] <jagveer> :D
[19:18] <bekks> stacy-: basically you dont need to edit the BSSID, all you need to do is specifying the SSID.
[19:18] <jagveer> what's up everybody?
[19:18] <nacc> nitish: you might have to manually type it, or save the output to a file, copy it to the machine you're on now and pastebin it
[19:18] <glass> sup jag
[19:18] <stacy-> bekks.. but the SSID doesnt show in the network
[19:18] <jagveer> im having an issue
[19:18] <jagveer> when i use "apt-get update"
[19:19] <glass> its just apt now
[19:19] <jagveer> it is locked
[19:19] <glass> sudo apt update
[19:19] <jagveer> it does not work
[19:19] <jagveer> at all
[19:19] <glass> rm - rf
[19:19] <nacc> jagveer: apt is already running
[19:19] <jagveer> should i delete the lock file?
[19:19] <glass> lol no not that
[19:19] <nacc> jagveer: or was incorrectly stopped/killed
[19:19] <nacc> jagveer: so it didn't clean up, does `ps aux | grep apt` indicate any apt processes running?
[19:19] <nacc> jagveer: or `ps aux | grep dpkg` for dpkg processess/locsk
[19:20] <jagveer> when yesterday i deleted those files
[19:20] <jagveer> and it perfectly works
[19:20] <nitish> nacc: sudo apt install pastebinit [sudo] password for nayan: Reading package lists... Done E: Unable to locate pastebinit
[19:20] <stacy-> can somebody please tell me why the wifi isnt showing for my other divices when i configered everyting in ubuntu?
[19:21] <jagveer> basically, i would like to install php5 on my machine and it does not allow me to install it.
[19:21] <nacc> jagveer: what version of ubuntu?
[19:21] <jagveer> latest version
[19:21] <nacc> jagveer: 16.04 is php7 only
[19:21] <jagveer> and its 16.04
[19:22] <nacc> jagveer: if you want officially supported php5 stay on trusty; or use ondrej's ppa (although then you're using a ppa and ymmv)
[19:22] <stacy-> bekks.. it still isnt showing in my network
[19:22] <stacy-> bekks.. can you please assist
[19:22] <jagveer> nacc : thanks
[19:22] <jagveer> i will try it
[19:22] <jagveer> ;)
[19:23] <jagveer> and what are the purpose of this chat?
[19:23] <jagveer> :D
[19:23] <nacc> nitish: i really need to see the output of the update command, so if you can try saving to a file `apt-get update > file`
[19:23] <nacc> jagveer: see the /topic
[19:23] <stacy-> bekks.. please help
[19:23] <ioria> stacy-, the ssid is the name of your lan network that you set up in your router ... you should know it
[19:23] <nacc> jagveer: or migrate to php7 :)
[19:23] <jagveer> stacy, did you know your eth0?
[19:24] <stacy-> ioria.. i am trying to use my laptop to create an ssid for my network
[19:24] <nitish> nacc: right now updating is under process. waiting to complete
[19:24] <ioria> stacy-, you set it up in your router config
[19:24] <stacy-> ioria..but after the configuration the ssid didnt show..
[19:24] <jagveer> nacc : check your private chat
[19:25] <stacy-> ioria.. i am trying to use my laptop to broadcast the wifi to my other devices
[19:25] <ioria> stacy-,  oh, i see
[19:25] <stacy-> ioria.. but for some reason the ssid isnt showing
[19:25] <stacy-> ioria..is there a step i missed?
[19:27] <ioria> stacy-, you mean an hotspot ?
[19:27] <ioria> stacy-,  https://help.ubuntu.com/16.04/ubuntu-help/net-wireless-adhoc.html
[19:30] <stacy-> ioria.. i wish ubuntu can be made more suer friendly.. the help.ubuntu site after following the sets does not show the hotspot icon
[19:34] <ioria> stacy-,  unity or kde ?
[19:34] <stacy-> please guide me and find the hotspot icon
[19:34] <stacy-> i am using the default ubuntu
[19:34] <stacy-> ioria
[19:35] <stacy-> i think its unity
[19:36] <ioria> stacy-,  once i used this http://www.howtogeek.com/116409/how-to-turn-your-ubuntu-laptop-into-a-wireless-access-point/
[19:36] <MonkeyDust_> stacy-  is there a bar on the right?
[19:36] <MonkeyDust_> stacy-  is there a bar on the left*
[19:36] <stacy-> i am using ubuntu 15
[19:36] <ioria> stacy-,  you need to be connected with eth0
[19:36] <stacy-> desktop version
[19:37] <bekks> stacy-: Which Ubuntu 15? 15.04 or 15.10?
[19:37] <stacy-> ioria.. i have the network cable directly connected to my laptop
[19:37] <ioria> ok
[19:37] <stacy-> bekks 15.`0
[19:37] <stacy-> 15.10
[19:38] <stacy-> ioria.. i cant find the hotspot button
[19:38] <Ben64> maybe your card doesn't support it
[19:39] <stacy-> ben64 but it worked before
[19:39] <Codfection> Guys I cant change my calendar language
[19:39] <Codfection> The application Language support has closed unexpectedly
[19:39] <Codfection> Any idea how to solve this?
[19:39] <stacy-> bekks..the hotspot button is turned on but its greyed out
[19:40] <bekks> stacy-: Does your card support adhoc mode?
[19:40] <stacy-> bekks.. yes it does
[19:41] <stacy-> bekks.. i have hotspot turned on but its not showing up in the other devices
[19:41] <dP93> #babel.it
[19:41] <Ben64> you said you couldn't find the button
[19:41] <bekks> stacy-: You already said that a couple of times.
[19:41] <stacy-> is this a bug within the 15.10 ubuntu?
[19:42] <Ben64> no
[19:42] <stacy-> ben64.. which step am i missing?
[19:42] <Ben64> who knows, you keep changing your story
[19:43] <stacy-> ben64.. i have a laptop ubuntu 15.10
[19:43] <Ben64> you should just buy an access point
[19:43] <glass> <--- is looking for help with figuring out how i can use bash to scan the entire tree of my Downloads folder and search for ".pdf" move those to a different folder and delete the remaining files after that move?
[19:43] <stacy-> ben64.. it must be the way i am configuering this
[19:44] <stacy-> ben64..it worked 2 months ago.. but now it doesnt
[19:44] <ioria> stacy-,  your wifi connection, apart from hotspot,   is ok ?
[19:45] <stacy-> ioria.. my laptop has a network cable
[19:45] <stacy-> ioria.. do i need the BSSID configuered?
[19:46] <nacc> glass: `find Downloads -type f -name '*.pdf' -exec mv {} <destination>/. \;` then `rm -r Downloads/* ?
[19:46] <nacc> glass: don't just go and run that
[19:46] <nacc> glass: but that's roughly what you'd need, i'd read the find manpage and google for examples, it's a pretty powerful command
[19:46] <Ben64> yeah, i wouldn't make a script that auto deletes things
[19:46] <ioria> stacy-,  i asked you if , disconnecting the cable, you can  connect to the network
[19:46] <Codfection> Any idea how to solve this?
[19:46] <nacc> Ben64: :)
[19:46] <Codfection> The application Language support has closed unexpectedly
[19:47] <Codfection> cant change my calendar language :(
[19:47] <stacy-> ioriia.. if i connect using wifi with laptop.. yes i can connect
[19:48] <Codfection> Any idea how to solve this?
[19:48] <Codfection> The application Language support has closed unexpectedly
[19:48] <Codfection> please help
[19:48] <Ben64> Codfection: don't repeat that fast
[19:48] <nacc> !patience | Codfection
[19:50] <Sabel> Hi there! just wondering if there was anyone available to help me out with my wireless driver issue.
[19:51] <Ben64> Sabel: ask your question to find out
[19:51] <Sabel> Oh, My apologies.
[19:51] <stacy-> iconia..my wireless section looks different from the site you provided.. http://www.howtogeek.com/116409/how-to-turn-your-ubuntu-laptop-into-a-wireless-access-point/
[19:52] <Codfection> guys which theme to use
[19:52] <Codfection> is it because of the macbuntu theme I am using?
[19:53] <stacy-> iconia ..i only have wirless hotspot (switch off to connect to a wirelss netowrk.. network name: .. i have none of the confitueration at the botton in the picture http://www.howtogeek.com/116409/how-to-turn-your-ubuntu-laptop-into-a-wireless-access-point/
[19:53] <Sabel> I'm having issues trying to get my wireless card to work. I run lspci in the terminal and it me "Network controller: Qualcomm Atheros Device 0042 (rev a2)" for a wireless device. I've checked the "Additional drivers" section of the system settings and unfortunatly don't have one there ready for me to activate and I'm not really sure where to go nex
[19:53] <Sabel> t on linux.
[19:54] <TJ-> Sabel: try using "lspci -nnk" and report the [vendor:product] id and any kernel module in use
[19:55] <duffo> hi, i just upgraded 14.04 to 16.04 and now i get "/dev/sda1: clean, 121563/920272 files, 701079/3680256 blocks". does anyone know whats wrong?
[19:55] <zicus> ciao
[19:55] <zicus> !list
[19:55] <duffo> when trying to boot
[19:55] <bekks> duffo: nothing is wrong on that line.
[19:56] <stacy-> is it only possible to do this using umtui ?
[19:56] <duffo> bekks, its get stuck on it
[19:56] <stacy-> bekks.. please help
[19:56] <Sabel> "Network controller [0280]: Qualcomm Atheros Device [168c:0042] (rev 30)
[19:56] <Sabel>  Subsystem: Lite-On Communications Inc Device [11ad:1806]
[19:56] <Sabel>  Kernel driver in use: ath10k_pci
[19:56] <Sabel>  Kernel modules: ath10k_pci" is this what you're looking for?
[19:56] <bekks> stacy-: I never setup an adhox network graphically.
[19:56] <bekks> stacy-: I'm sorry, but I'm afraid I cant help you.
[19:57] <stacy-> bekks.. i am trying to do a WPA
[19:57] <bekks> duffo: And you are aware of the fact that a direct upgrade from 14.04 to 16.04 isnt supported yet?
[19:57] <stacy-> is there somebody in here that knows how to make this work?
[19:57] <duffo> bekks: I am now..
[19:58] <stacy-> this is so hard.. just getting the hotspot working on ubuntu takes the whole day
[19:58] <stacy-> why cant this be made more simple and easliy configuered?
[19:59] <stacy-> the documentation shown http://www.howtogeek.com/116409/how-to-turn-your-ubuntu-laptop-into-a-wireless-access-point/ is different from my ubuntu 15.10
[20:01] <zicus> ciao
[20:02] <zicus> !list
[20:02] <genii> !it | zicus
[20:02] <dax> i wouldn't bother for !list'ers, genii
[20:03] <lorddoskias1> hello
[20:03] <reisio> stacy-: maybe something here: http://askubuntu.com/questions/323335/how-to-setup-a-wi-fi-hotspot-with-an-ubuntu-laptop-access-point-mode
[20:03] <lorddoskias1> how can i get turbostat to show the % of time my cpu spends in various c-states?
[20:03] <reisio> lorddoskias1: hi
[20:03] <lorddoskias1> because currently it only shows some mxz readings
[20:04] <aLLamox> Good morning by mistake my source.list have been missed
[20:04] <aLLamox> I would like to restore it to default
[20:04] <dstarh> We've got a build system, using ruby/capistrano that bootstraps servers for us.  It's responsible for running apt-get install on a bunch of packages. We're updating to add a new package, supplied by a different repo ppa:webupd8team/java
[20:04] <zincrokx> how to write a script if i want to access gmail from custom launcher or by clicking on icon? Just thought
[20:04] <bartje> hi all, got a weird problem here after upgrade to 16.04 : I can log into gnome classic, but regular gnome shell returns to login screen :-| .
[20:04] <aLLamox> any trustable default source list
[20:05] <dstarh> we'd rather not do a full apt-get update so I've got the script just updating that repo
[20:05] <Sabel> I'm having issues trying to get my wireless card to work. I run lspci in the terminal and it me "Network controller: Qualcomm Atheros Device 0042 (rev a2)" for a wireless device. I've checked the "Additional drivers" section of the system settings and unfortunatly don't have one there ready for me to activate. I also ran "lspci -nnk" and got "Netwo
[20:05] <Sabel> rk controller [0280]: Qualcomm Atheros Device [168c:0042] (rev 30)
[20:05] <Sabel>  Subsystem: Lite-On Communications Inc Device [11ad:1806]
[20:05] <Sabel>  Kernel driver in use: ath10k_pci
[20:05] <Sabel>  Kernel modules: ath10k_pci" and i'm not really sure where to go from here..
[20:05] <aLLamox> !sourcelist
[20:05] <nacc> aLLamox: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RecommendedSources
[20:05] <dstarh> but it's got a dependency on java-common, how do I go about finding repo that contains java common and just update that repo
[20:05] <nacc> aLLamox: might be out of date :/
[20:05] <reisio> zincrokx: 'firefox http://gmail.com/' is one executable string you could use
[20:05] <aLLamox> nacc Thank u
[20:06] <nacc> dstarh: that's not how it works, nor is that what i think you want to do
[20:06] <aLLamox> bbut nacc Im in command line
[20:06] <nacc> dstarh: you'd be in dependency hell if you only piecewise updated yours ystem
[20:06] <stacy-> the BSSID is only for this format? 01;05:03?
[20:06] <aLLamox> i dont have GUI
[20:06] <zincrokx> okay reisio
[20:06] <aLLamox> can any one just cat /etc/apt/source.list
[20:06] <aLLamox> and pastebin me
[20:06] <aLLamox> can u nacc
[20:06] <sebsebseb> h
[20:06] <stacy-> zinkcokx.. please help
[20:07] <aLLamox> and when I try https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Repositories I got internal server error
[20:07] <nacc> aLLamox: hrm, me too :/
[20:07] <dstarh> nacc thats what I figured.  should I just freeze all of the other installs after the initial install that way we can safely run update?
[20:07] <nitish> nacc: Unable to complete the update. Last lines of the output is Some index files failed to download. They have been ignored, or old ones used instead.
[20:07] <sebsebseb> stacy-: what do you want help with, maybe I can help
[20:07] <aLLamox> nacc can u cat /etc/apt/source.list
[20:08] <TJ-> Sabel: so the ath10k_pci driver is active on that device. does "ip link show" report the network device?
[20:08] <stacy-> sebsebseb... i am trying to make my ubuntu laptop into a hotspot
[20:08] <sebsebseb> stacy-: wireless hot spot/
[20:08] <sebsebseb> ?
[20:08] <stacy-> sebsebseb.. yes
[20:08] <nitish> nacc: I've the full output in a text file. How can I pastebinit?
[20:08] <stacy-> sebsebseb.. i did it once befoer ...but it doesnt work now
[20:08] <Sabel> Tj- sorry i'm not sure how to direct message. also i'm pretty new to terminal based stuff, would i just type "ip link show" into the teriminal?
[20:09] <TJ-> zincrokx: in a script use "xdg-open http://host.domain/path/" to use the system's default browser to open the link
[20:09] <nacc> nitish: copy it to the computer you're on now and c&p to pastebin?
[20:09] <TJ-> Sabel: correct :)
[20:09] <nitish> nacc: ok
[20:09] <sebsebseb> stacy-: nah can't really help with that
[20:09] <nacc> dstarh: sorry, not parsing that ... you install a system, the *first*  thing you should do after install is `apt-get update`
[20:09] <Sabel> Tj- This was the output : 1: lo: <LOOPBACK,UP,LOWER_UP> mtu 65536 qdisc noqueue state UNKNOWN mode DEFAULT group default qlen 1
[20:09] <Sabel>     link/loopback 00:00:00:00:00:00 brd 00:00:00:00:00:00
[20:09] <Sabel> 2: enp2s0: <BROADCAST,MULTICAST,UP,LOWER_UP> mtu 1500 qdisc pfifo_fast state UP mode DEFAULT group default qlen 1000
[20:09] <Sabel>     link/ether 2c:60:0c:85:40:29 brd ff:ff:ff:ff:ff:ff
[20:09] <nacc> !paste | Sabel
[20:09] <stacy-> sebsebseb..is it possible to turn a laptop into a hotspot using ubuntu?
[20:10] <wad> Suggestions on a replacement for gnome-terminal? (It no longer works for me, as I require the ability to set titles of tabs.)
[20:10] <TJ-> Sabel: for wifi devices the name should start with "wl" , for wired device it'll start "en" ... virtual devices will start with a "v", bridges will have a "br" in their name
[20:10] <nitish> nacc: I am unable to understand that how to paste the text in pastebin.
[20:10] <nacc> nitish: do you know how to copy and paste in whatever environment you're in now? open the file and c&p it at pastebin.com?
[20:11] <stacy-> nitish.. please help me get my laptop turned into a hotspot
[20:11] <nacc> stacy-: stop asking everyone in the channel
[20:11] <dstarh> nacc the issue is a bunch of systems have been bootstrapped but now we're adding some additional stuff.  The way the script currently is written it does apt-get update once, and then on each time we deploy, runs apt-get install list-of-pacakges, it lets us add new packages to be installed without updating the rest of the packages but doesn't help if you need to add something in a new repo
[20:11] <Sabel> Tj- This was the output http://paste.ubuntu.com/16467927/
[20:11] <nacc> dstarh: that's horribly broken
[20:11] <stacy-> nacc.. i have followed the steps but things still doesnt work
[20:12] <nacc> dstarh: if your cached package list is out of date, it will not be able to install certain pacakges, as they will no longer exist in the repositories
[20:12] <bekks> stacy-: Which steps in particular?
[20:12] <stacy-> bekks .. the steps in this site is different from my ubuntu15.10 pacakges,
[20:12] <bekks> stacy-: Tell us every single step.
[20:13] <nitish> nacc: here it is http://paste.ubuntu.com/16467942/
[20:13] <bekks> stacy-: And please dont refer to weird 3rd party sites.
[20:13] <stacy-> http://www.howtogeek.com/116409/how-to-turn-your-ubuntu-laptop-into-a-wireless-access-point/
[20:13] <nitish> nacc: output of update: http://paste.ubuntu.com/16467942/
[20:13] <stacy-> bekks.. http://www.howtogeek.com/116409/how-to-turn-your-ubuntu-laptop-into-a-wireless-access-point/
[20:13] <White_Cat> Hello
[20:13] <TJ-> Sabel: which Ubuntu release is that on?
[20:14] <bekks> stacy-: so whats the exact problem at which exact step? "dont work" is much too generic.
[20:14] <stacy-> bekks.. this does not work too https://help.ubuntu.com/16.04/ubuntu-help/net-wireless-adhoc.htl
[20:14] <Sabel> Tj- how would i check? I believe i installed the newest LTS i saw.
[20:14] <bekks> stacy-: "does not work" is an invalid description.
[20:14] <stacy-> bekks.. i am having problems creating a hotspot using my laptop
[20:14] <bekks> stacy-: you told that almost everyone inthis channel now.
[20:15] <bekks> stacy-: Please start telling us which problem you have at which steps - esactly.
[20:15] <White_Cat> Good evening from Greece
[20:15] <bekks> *exactly.
[20:15] <stacy-> bekks.. the BSSID section
[20:15] <bekks> stacy-: Where? Which step?
[20:15] <nacc> nitish: hrm, odd that it's failing to update everything ... are you able to install any packages now?
[20:15] <TJ-> Sabel: "lsb_release -a" and you should see something like 16.04
[20:15] <Codfection> 16.04 is full of bugs
[20:16] <nitish> nacc: no.
[20:16] <Codfection> language support is closing unexpectedly
[20:16] <Sabel> TJ- yep 16.04
[20:17] <TJ-> Sabel: right, so it is the latest, so should have best support. Let's check for errors. can you do "pastebinit <( grep ath10k /var/log/kern.log )" so we can look for errors in the kernel log
[20:17] <stacy-> bekks   here are the steps ...https://help.ubuntu.com/16.04/ubuntu-help/net-wireless-adhoc.html
[20:17] <bekks> stacy-: And which step is causing which trouble for you?
[20:18] <stacy-> bekks..i cant create a BSSID the save button is greyed out
[20:19] <bekks> stacy-: Why do you need to enter a BSSID at all?
[20:19] <nitish> I am unable to download any application in ubuntu 16.04, neither I can update if completly.
[20:19] <stacy-> bekks.. then what do i need to do?...the wireless isnt showing up in my device
[20:19] <bekks> nitish: whats the output of "sudo apt update"?
[20:19] <bekks> stacy-: because it isnt yet created.
[20:20] <nitish> bekks: output of update is file:///media/nitish/TOSHIBA%20EXT/OS/linux/ubuntu-14.04.2-desktop-amd64.iso
[20:20] <bekks> nitish: Nonsense. :)
[20:20] <nitish> bekks: output of update is http://paste.ubuntu.com/16467942/
[20:20] <bekks> Ah :)
[20:20] <Sabel> TJ- apparently pastebin isnt installed for me (not sure if it was supposed to be by default) but here anyway :) http://paste.ubuntu.com/16468030/ lots of red, doesnt look good.
[20:21] <nacc> dstarh: do you understand what i mean?
[20:21] <bekks> nitish: I'd remove the non-working sources, first. :) You have quite a lot of them.
[20:21] <dstarh> nacc sorry got pulled away
[20:21] <nitish> bekks: how?
[20:21] <bekks> nitish: Using a text editor, or the settings menu.
[20:22] <dstarh> yes I understand what you mean, it's worked because as of now we had a single package list, it got installed once and it was fine.  Now that I need to add additional packages we're seeing the shortcomings
[20:22] <nitish> bekks: Rahne de beta, tumse na ho payega.
[20:22] <bekks> nitish: You need to talk english in here, for having a chance that people will understand you ;)
[20:22] <nacc> dstarh: yeah, and you're also missing all (i'm guessing) security updates during the lifetime of your image :)
[20:22] <nacc> dstarh: if you aren't runing `apt update` regularly, that is
[20:22] <nitish> bekks: translate that in google translater.
[20:23] <bekks> nitish: Why would I?
[20:23] <TJ-> Sabel: OK, as I thought. Easy to fix.
[20:23] <nacc> bekks: looking at nitish's sources, though, they're all from archive.ubuntu.com ?
[20:23] <nitish> I am unable to upadte or download any application. And nobody can fix it.
[20:23] <dstarh> nacc also a good point
[20:23] <bekks> nacc: And half of his sources arent reachable.
[20:23] <nitish> This is completly useless.
[20:23] <TJ-> Sabel: first you need to install a tool to fetch the latest firmwares. "sudo apt install git"
[20:23] <nitish> no use of this ubuntu support channel.
[20:24] <nitish> Is there any admin of this support channel.
[20:24] <nitish> ?J
[20:24] <nitish> ?
[20:24] <Sabel> TJ- Finished, what's next? Also thank you for taking your time to help me :)
[20:25] <ulkesh> I have added my Google account to the Unity online accounts in my system settings.  My understanding is that Evolution can make use of the already-authenticated accounts in the online accounts.  However, when I launch Evolution, it's requesting that I add an account.  How can I get Evolution to use the Online Accounts?
[20:25] <TJ-> Sabel: "mkdir -p /tmp/firmware && cd $_"  ... will end up with the current directory being the new /tmp/firmware/
[20:25] <ulkesh> (I am using Ubuntu 16.04)
[20:25] <TJ-> Sabel: then "git clone git://git.kernel.org/pub/scm/linux/kernel/git/firmware/linux-firmware.git"
[20:26] <TJ-> Sabel: that will fetch *all* the latest Linux firmware files, from which we'll extract the ath10k files you need
[20:26] <nacc> nitish: why do you need an admin?
[20:26] <Sabel> TJ- sorry the  "mkdir -p /tmp/firmware && cd $_" ... will end up with the current directory being the new /tmp/firmware/  bit is lost on me.. Pretty new to teriminal stuff. I get making a new directory..i think?
[20:27] <Umeaboy> sebsebseb: You available or busy? I have a quick question for you.
[20:27] <TJ-> Sabel: you execute the commands I provide inside the "..." marks exactly as I've put them, and they'll do the operations I comment about in the surrounding text... think of it as learning on the job :)
[20:27] <zerowolf> Hi
[20:28] <nitish> nitish: I think, there is a big bug. I am unable to update ubuntu.
[20:28] <Sabel> TJ- Just want to make sure i'm following your directions properly. Thank you! the knowledge is valuable !
[20:28] <Umeaboy> What's equivalent to gcc-gfortran in Ubuntu? I can't find that package name with sudo apt-cache search gcc-gfortran
[20:28] <TJ-> Sabel: if you type "pwd" at this point you should see /tmp/firmware
[20:29] <sebsebseb> Umeaboy: available I guess
[20:29] <TJ-> !info gfortran-5 | Umeaboy  is that it?
[20:30] <Umeaboy> sebsebseb: OK. PM then....
[20:30] <TJ-> Sabel: ('pwd' means present working directory)
[20:30] <coin3d> anybody trying to run docker on 16.04?
[20:30] <Sabel> TJ- Yep correct, So i just made a directory and used git to download all the current firmware into that new directory?
[20:30] <TJ-> Sabel: correct. has git finished?
[20:30] <SchrodingersScat> !ask | coin3d easier if you ask your real question
[20:30] <Sabel> TJ- yes it has
[20:31] <Codfection> 16.04 is full of bugs
[20:31] <thanasis> hi guys
[20:31] <Codfection> why cant I get my language support change calendar language? Anyone?
[20:31] <thanasis> i need some help with ubuntu
[20:31] <Codfection> language support is closing unexpectedly
[20:31] <thanasis> anyone help me?
[20:31] <bekks> thanasis: You need to specify your issue first :)
[20:32] <thanasis> i want to make bootable usb with windows for one friend of me and i dont know how
[20:32] <Codfection> Google it !!!!
[20:32] <Codfection> thanasis,
[20:32] <TJ-> Sabel: right, then we can copy the files: "sudo cp -va linux-firmware/ath10k/QCA9377 /lib/firmware/ath10k/"
[20:32] <bekks> Codfection: Stop it please.
[20:32] <bekks> !usb | thanasis
[20:32] <thanasis> im using ubuntu
[20:33] <Codfection> bekks, bro any idea whats causing language support to crash
[20:33] <Codfection> repeatedly
[20:33] <Sabel> TJ- Done.
[20:33] <TJ-> Sabel: then check you see files with "ls -latr /lib/firmware/ath10k/QCA9377/"
[20:33] <nitish> I am still unable to download anything or update my ubuntu 16.04 lts. Now I am going to downgrade(clean install) it to ubuntu 14.04. Sad :(
[20:33] <TJ-> Sabel: you should see a directory hw1.0/
[20:33] <bekks> Codfection: How am I supposed to know - did you check your logs already?
[20:34] <Codfection> whenever I try to change calender language. it crashes !
[20:34] <TJ-> Sabel: now lets unload the kernel module and reload it so it can find the firmware it craves: "sudo modprobe -r ath10k_pci && sudo modprobe ath10k_pci"
[20:34] <ulkesh> nevermind, installing gnome-control-center on Ubuntu 16.04 and using that online accounts allowed evolution to see/use it immediately
[20:34] <Sabel> TJ- among a couple of others yes.
[20:34] <thanasis> ubuntu after upgrade says failed to start session
[20:34] <bekks> thanasis: After upgrading from what to what?
[20:34] <TJ-> Sabel: at this point if all went well the wifi interface should be there. "ip link show"
[20:35] <thanasis> i dont know i just use sudo apt-get upgrade command
[20:35] <Sabel> Tj- yep it seems to be working properly.
[20:35] <TJ-> Sabel: you have wifi ?
[20:35] <TJ-> Sabel: try connecting with Network Manager's aapplet
[20:35] <bekks> thanasis: Using which Ubuntu version?
[20:35] <squinty> thanasis, or check out pendrivelinux.com for apps and instructions.  unetbootin is another one.  etcher is another at http://www.etcher.io/
[20:35] <thanasis> ubuntu mate 16.04 lts
[20:36] <thanasis> how to install winusb for ubuntu?
[20:37] <Codfection> guys how to downgrade from 16.04 to 14.04?
[20:37] <nacc> Codfection: downgrades aren't supported, you'd have to reinstall, aiui
[20:37] <Sabel> Tj- Yep, connected via wifi now :)
[20:37] <TJ-> Sabel: you're all done then
[20:37] <bekks> Codfection: By reinstalling 14.04
[20:37] <Codfection> nacc, I have taken 2 days to install all the applications. and configure them. How to bring them to 14.04
[20:37] <xangua> Codfection: backup and reinstall
[20:38] <Sabel> Tj- Wonderful! thank you SO much! do you have time to answer two more questions ? one SUPER quick one possibly more involved?
[20:38] <Codfection> xangua, any good backup way?
[20:38] <TJ-> Sabel: fire away :)
[20:38] <Codfection> xangua, to bring all the apps and settings to new ubuntu?
[20:38] <Sabel> Tj- well is there an easy way in teriminal to update all things like that? apt update or somthing like that..?
[20:38] <bekks> !backup | Codfection
[20:38] <TJ-> Sabel: yes. "sudo apt update && sudo apt full-upgrade"
[20:39] <Umeaboy> TJ-: Don't know if that is enough. I want to make sure that all my deps are installed to build Cyanogenmod in Ubuntu 16.04.
[20:39] <Sabel> TJ- and what do those update exactly..?
[20:39] <TJ-> Sabel: the firmware was a special case; due to atheros not getting the firmware binaries into the linux-firmware package early enough to be included in 16.04
[20:40] <TJ-> Sabel: they bring in bug-fixes and  security-updates
[20:40] <Codfection> bekks duplicating the current system apps and settings to another version can work fine?
[20:40] <ZeZu> ere
[20:41] <bekks> Codfection: May, may not. Downgrading settings can be tricky.
[20:41] <Sabel> -TJ ah alright so we added them manually. Cool. Second question. I've tried to install both chrome and steam through firefox and both of them were opened through "install manager" i believe its called and warned me they possibly wouldn't be free. I clicked install in that window and it brought a little icon into my system tray with a "?" in it that
[20:41] <Sabel>  just sats "waiting to install" forever.
[20:41] <Codfection> bekks, so I should clean install another system and re install every thing???? it will take alot of time
[20:41] <Codfection> especially to configure them :(
[20:41] <bekks> Codfection: Yeah, thats the caveat of a downgrade.
[20:42] <Codfection> bekks, if ubuntu new version comes out. do you recommend upgrade or clean install?
[20:42] <bekks> Codfection: Thats why you have a backup, before upgrading to a new release. You did a bacup before, did you?
[20:42] <Codfection> because clean install will again have to install everything :(
[20:42] <bekks> Codfection: We are talking about downgrading currently.
[20:42] <TJ-> Sabel: That I'm not sure about, but I suspect in the case of steam its their terrible packaging, which I've had the misfortune to try to help others with! I stay well away from that now. The icon may belong to the "Gnome Software" center which again, seems to be rather buggy and hit-and-miss and I don't use :)
[20:42] <Codfection> how about upgrading?
[20:42] <Codfection> later when I need to
[20:43] <bekks> Codfection: NOW you need one..., since you want to downgrade.
[20:43] <bekks> Codfection: So did you create a backup before upgrading?
[20:43] <Codfection> DuplicityBackup right?
[20:43] <Codfection> no
[20:43] <Codfection> didnt
[20:43] <Codfection> first time
[20:43] <TJ-> Codfection: it might be faster to pin down the cause of the bugs you're seeing :)
[20:43] <Sabel> TJ- oh, alright that's fine i googled how to isntall steam through the terminal and that worked fine anyway. i assume i can do the same with chrome.
[20:43] <Codfection> TJ the only bug I am having is I cant change the calender language
[20:43] <Codfection> from language support
[20:43] <TJ-> Sabel: any package in the archives can be installed simply with "sudo apt install <package-name>"
[20:43] <wad> So I'm considering switching from "gnome-terminal" to "terminator". In gnome-terminal, I set the active tab color by editing this file: "~/.config/gtk-3.0/gtk.css" (as per http://askubuntu.com/questions/40332/how-to-make-selected-tab-in-terminal-more-prominent). Works great! But that didn't apply to terminator. Is this the same sort of thing I need to do for terminator? How can I tell how to edit this file for that app?
[20:44] <Codfection> language support keeps crashing once I select English !
[20:44] <Sabel> TJ- oh..i guess one last question sorry haha, Is there any security risk of removing the Password input on system startup other than someone picking up my laptop and being able to get right in?
[20:44] <Codfection> TJ
[20:44] <TJ-> Codfection: have you checked for clues in the log files? user log $HOME/.xsession-errors and system log /var/log/syslog
[20:45] <Codfection> to check in user or system log?
[20:45] <TJ-> Sabel: you mean setting auto-login ?
[20:45] <bekks> Codfection: Both.
[20:45] <OerHeks> https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/gnome-calendar/+bug/1563553
[20:45] <TJ-> Codfection: you an use "less <filename>" to view and navigate the text logs
[20:45] <TJ-> !cookie | OerHeks
[20:46] <Sabel> TJ- yeah, a good portion of the reason i dual booted linux is because its lightyears faster then windows on startup and most of the reason i use this laptop is quick web browsing or school work all easily done on linux but typing my password in every time i boot partially defeats the purpose.
[20:46] <OerHeks> known issue, translations are not all available/correct
[20:46] <Codfection> OerHeks, I cant even change to english
[20:46] <Codfection> it crashes
[20:47] <TJ-> Sabel: well, if someone has physical control of your PC they can boot it in recovery mode and get root and get to everything so you're not really loosing anything with auto-login
[20:47] <Codfection> and why there is gnome calender while I am using ubuntu unity
[20:47] <TJ-> Sabel: aside from cheeky classmates who might misuse it to post things as you to online forums!
[20:48] <OerHeks> Codfection, stop trolling: <Codfection> whenever I try to change calender language. it crashes !
[20:48] <OerHeks> we can read back, you know
[20:48] <TJ-> Codfection: gnome is the software that underpins Unity
[20:48] <Sabel> TJ- haha ! Where would i go about changing that?
[20:48] <mcphail> I've found a bug in the way the dash parses .desktop files under the $HOME/.local/share/applications directory. Against what package should I file it?
[20:48] <Codfection> OerHeks, I am not trolling. I can show u screenshot !
[20:48] <Codfection> Thanks TJ
[20:48] <TJ-> Sabel: changing it to enable auto-login?
[20:49] <Sabel> Tj- correct
[20:49] <TJ-> Sabel: see http://askubuntu.com/questions/51086/how-do-i-enable-auto-login-in-lightdm
[20:49] <Codfection> OerHeks, the link you gave.. it says Fix released. how to get that fix?
[20:49] <StatelessCat> stacy-: ><
[20:50] <StatelessCat> stacy-: ^^ Thank you for the HL.
[20:50] <Sabel> Tj- Doesn't seem to let me click the little switch
[20:51] <TJ-> Sabel: do you need to 'unlock' top-right first?
[20:51] <TJ-> Sabel: is there a padlock icon ?
[20:52] <Sabel> Tj- I swear im blind.. and i also swear i had only one question left and keep coming up with more...I installed chromium browser and can open it via terminal but how would i go about making a desktop icon?
[20:52] <TJ-> Codfection: that bug report shows the fix was in gnome-calendar (3.19.92-0ubuntu3) ... which you should have since that was released 30th March
[20:53] <TJ-> Sabel: if you installed it from the repository it'll be in the menus already; search in the dash by typing "chromium"
[20:53] <TJ-> Sabel: if however you mean "Google Chrome" the proprietary version, I've never installed that so not sure if it is the same procedure
[20:54] <squinty> Sabel,  if using unity -> dash -> type chromium -> drag and drop icon to laucher
[20:55] <TJ-> Sabel: once an application is running and has an icon in the launcher, right-click that icon and choose "pin to launcher" or whatever the term is
[20:55] <Please> hello
[20:55] <TJ-> Sabel: ahh, "Lock to Launcher"
[20:55] <squinty> if icon is dragged and dropped , lock is automatic
[20:56] <Sabel> TJ- oh perfect thank you. that worked. Is there an easy way to fix my installation problems? where it just gets stuck in "waiting to install" mode? is there a different program to handle installs..?
[20:56] <Guest65716> is anybody here?
[20:56] <TJ-> squinty: easier to start it and pin, especially if the touchpad performs poorly :)
[20:56] <merced> nobodys here
[20:56] <Guest65716> :)
[20:56] <TJ-> Sabel: that is from the "software center" GUI when you've chosen a package to install?
[20:57] <squinty> TJ-, depends on the user needs then, far more convienient the way I described for my purposes
[20:57] <Guest65716> I have some ubuntu help question can anyone help me answer then please?
[20:57] <Sabel> TJ- yes is there maybe an update for software center?
[20:57] <dax> Guest65716: best to ask your actual question :)
[20:58] <Guest65716> ok thanks
[20:58] <TJ-> Sabel: I suspect there will be several; it has some major problems. However, not sure about your current issue, it's unclear if it is the software center or something else it relies on causing that.
[20:58] <Guest65716> my question is regarding ubuntu 16.04
[20:59] <Sabel> Tj- Ah, how would i go about knowing exactly what the package is called for the apps i wish to install then? furthermore how would i go about uninstalling them..?
[20:59] <nacc> Guest65716: just ask the question.
[20:59] <nacc> !ask | Guest65716
[20:59] <TJ-> Sabel: I'm a command-line lover, I find it faster and mor accurate. See if you agree. To search for a package where you know a part of its name "apt-cache search -n <fragment>" (fragment is a regular-expression)
[20:59] <squinty> !manual
[21:00] <TJ-> Sabel: to read about a specific package: "apt-cache show <package-name>"
[21:00] <TJ-> Sabel: to check which versions are available for a specific package: "apt-cache policy <package-name>"
[21:00] <TJ-> Sabel: to check which packages are installed: "apt --installed list"
[21:01] <adamg> ubuntu and debian releases are not really meaningfully correlated, right? IOW, it's not as if 16.04 is based on 8.4 (and 15.10 would be some earlier 8.X, and so on), it's just ubuntu is mostly debian upstream + bunch of things that it chooses to upgrade "ahead of schedule"?
[21:01] <nacc> adamg: roughly speaking each release is based off the current unstable at the time, with some wiggle room
[21:01] <TJ-> Sabel: to see what packages are to be upgraded: "apt --upgradeable list"
[21:01] <Guest19989> hello
[21:02] <nacc> adamg: it's more package-by-package generally, although, for instance, right now, many pacakges (those that can be) are autosyncing from debian in yakkety
[21:02] <Guest65716> I would consider myself fairly noob to linux in general (though I have used it many times in the past) I am trying to install packages such as numpy using 'pip install numpy' it installs but when I try the 'import numpy' command it give this error, ImportError: No module named numpy
[21:03] <TJ-> !info python3-numpy | Guest65716 you can install the packages from the archive in most cases
[21:03] <Sabel> TJ- thanks! il probably go about using that method as the software center seems very buggy...How would i uninstall a package?
[21:03] <merced> http://www.scipy.org/install.html see ubuntu&debian
[21:04] <Guest65716> PLEASE HELP i have been try to figure out this error for the past few day I know it is probably a simple fix but I am simply too new at knit to know what to do
[21:04] <Guest19989> our country is blocked from oracle.com i need to remove java8 installer because i get error like this how can i solve problem ?
[21:04] <Guest19989> download failed
[21:04] <Guest19989> Oracle JDK 8 is NOT installed.
[21:04] <Guest19989> dpkg: error processing package oracle-java8-installer (--configure):
[21:04] <Guest19989>  subprocess installed post-installation script returned error exit status 1
[21:04] <Guest19989> Errors were encountered while processing:
[21:04] <TJ-> Sabel: "apt install <package1> [ <package2> <package3> ...]
[21:04] <merced> poor oracle, entire countries hate them
[21:04] <jinxi> Sysinfo for 'linux-85up': Running inside KDE Plasma 5.6.3 on openSUSE Tumbleweed powered by Linux 4.5.3-1-default, CPU: Intel(R) Core(TM) i5-4670 CPU @ 3.40GHz at 3694-3773/3800 MHz, RAM: 13513/15453 MB, Storage: 32/236 GB, 232 procs, 98.2h up
[21:04] <nacc> TJ-: Sabel: `apt remove`
[21:05] <TJ-> Guest19989: try "sudo apt --purge remove oracle-java8-intaller"
[21:05] <Sabel> TJ- to be clear you would type "apt remove <package x>" ?
[21:05] <nacc> Sabel: `man apt` may help clarify some of the uses
[21:05] <Sabel> Nacc Thank you!
[21:05] <TJ-> Sabel: no, you'll need root privileges so "sudo apt remove <package>"
[21:06] <TJ-> Sabel: "man apt" "man apt-get" "man apt-cache" etc... "man" is always your friend
[21:06] <Sabel> TJ- does man stand for manage?
[21:07] <dax> Sabel: manual
[21:07] <dax> as in instruction book
[21:07] <Sabel> ohhh that makes sense.
[21:07] <Guest19989> TJ-, E: Unable to locate package oracle-java8-intaller
[21:07] <nacc> Guest65716: 'installer' at the end, probably
[21:07] <TJ-> Sabel: skipping to the end to see Examples is often the quick way to figure it out. Within 'man' pages press "G" to goto end, "gg" to goto start, and type "/" followed by a search string and Enter to search forwards. use "?" and a search term to search backwards. press "n" for next search match
[21:07] <Guest19989> TJ-, sudo apt --purge remove oracle-java8-intaller
[21:07] <Guest19989> TJ-, E: Unable to locate package oracle-java8-intaller
[21:08] <TJ-> Guest19989: ooops, type, it is installer not intaller :D
[21:08] <nacc> err, Guest19989 --^ (installer not intaller) :)
[21:08] <Guest19989> thanks
[21:09] <Sabel> You guys are seriously helpfull..
[21:09] <Sabel> Thank you!
[21:09] <bekks> Guest19989: And which countzry is it that is blocled by Oracle?
[21:09] <Guest65716> I asked my question can someone help me?
[21:09] <Guest19989> bekks, Iran
[21:09] <OerHeks> bekks, iran .. but it was a typo
[21:09] <nacc> Guest65716: you were already given an answer above
[21:10] <merced> lol is it because of stuxnet?
[21:10] <bekks> OerHeks: Thought so, the ban list of Oracle is pretty small nowadays.
[21:10] <Guest65716> ? didn't catch it please repost (noob mistake)
[21:10] <merced> "oracles fault!"
[21:10] <merced> "kknojava4u"
[21:10] <OerHeks> nacc, he has troubles with pip,
[21:10] <nacc> !info python3-numpy | Guest65716 you can install the packages from the archive in most cases
[21:10] <nacc> Guest65716: that was originally from TJ- :)
[21:11] <nacc> Guest65716: my initial guess is that pip by default doesn't put stuff in the system python path, so you'd need to adjust your PYTHONPATH accordingly to use a locally installed library -- but  not sure
[21:13] <Guest65716> ok I looked through all of TJ's post none answered my main question
[21:13] <Guest65716> here is my main question
[21:14] <Guest65716>  I would consider myself fairly noob to linux in general (though I have used it many times in the past) I am trying to install packages such as numpy using 'pip install numpy' it installs but when I try the 'import numpy' command it give this error, ImportError: No module named numpy
[21:14] <merced> Guest65716: http://www.scipy.org/install.html
[21:14] <merced> sudo apt-get install python-numpy python-scipy python-matplotlib ipython ipython-notebook python-pandas python-sympy python-nose
[21:15] <Guest65716> hmm I did this many many time uninstall and reinstall did I miss something?
[21:16] <merced> are you using the distribution's python?
[21:20] <sabel> Put the teaching to use and found an IRC client and installed it through teriminal :)
[21:20] <reisio> sabel: teachtastic
[21:21] <TJ-> sabel: weechat is a great terminal client, but like all such things, you need good key-bind memory :)
[21:21] <Bomber4Chats> Anybody want a good laugh? I ran unmount /usr/lib while trying to fix some problem when I was trying to install opencv. How do I fix?
[21:22] <TJ-> Bomber4Chats: you have /usr/lib on a separate file-system?
[21:22] <Bomber4Chats> No, I don't think so.
[21:22] <sabel> Tj- i got "konversation" was just the first one to pop up on google. but i did search for the package name using the bit's you taught me and installed it :)
[21:22] <reisio> sabel: you using KDE?
[21:22] <TJ-> Bomber4Chats: then nothing would unmount
[21:23] <Bomber4Chats> Well, my libraries are now screwed
[21:23] <Bomber4Chats> Getting "cannot open shared object file"
[21:23] <merced> ..have you rebooted?
[21:23] <TJ-> Bomber4Chats: firstly, the command is "umount" not "unmount", and secondly you'd need to do "sudo umount ..."
[21:23] <Bomber4Chats> So that's what I did.
[21:23] <reisio> we can focus on 'cannot open shared object file' instead
[21:23] <OerHeks> good laugh .. i knew it
[21:23] <tgm4883> Bomber4Chats: reboot
[21:23] <reisio> what gives you that error
[21:23] <RoadRunner> on the subject on diff tools, any votes for Kdiff3 vs Meld?
[21:24] <Bomber4Chats> Doing that now.
[21:24] <OerHeks> RoadRunner, do a poll on askubuntu?
[21:24] <sabel> reisio Nah, whats KDE?
[21:24] <cruncher> hi, i have a question: speaks anything against installing & using xubuntu?
[21:25] <Bomber4Chats> reisio it started when I decided to foolishly accept any tip from a forum saying that umount /usr/lib fixes problems
[21:25] <Bomber4Chats> No more umounts for me.
[21:25] <reisio> Bomber4Chats: perfectly straightforward command
[21:26] <reisio> no more reading and following random forum advice without explanations might serve you better
[21:26] <reisio> cruncher: hrmm?
[21:26] <Bomber4Chats> Yep
[21:26] <sabel> TJ- one last question for now then im probably done for a bit haha, is there an easy terminal command to see my current diskspace? i have a few partitions one windows and one linux.
[21:26] <TJ-> sabel: "df -h"
[21:26] <reisio> sabel: a desktop environment that Konversation is particularly suited for, but not strictly tied to
[21:26] <cruncher> reisio, what is hrmm?
[21:26] <TJ-> sabel: "df" shows mounted file-systems only, though
[21:26] <Bomber4Chats> If you won't mind, if everything will be back to normal after the reset, I'd love to figure out why my cmake build is failing (for opencv)
[21:26] <reisio> cruncher: don't quite get your question
[21:27] <reisio> Bomber4Chats: come back & bring it up, then
[21:27] <cruncher> i mean, should i install better ubuntu, then install xfce, or can i install directly xubuntu?
[21:27] <reisio> cruncher: either one
[21:27] <RoadRunner> OerHeks: there is actually a way to do that or are you joking?
[21:27] <reisio> cruncher: if you haven't downloaded either, and know ahead of time you want Xfce, then downloading Xubuntu seems the simplest route
[21:28] <cruncher> reisio, i just didnt want to install xubuntu, and maybe in a year it isnt supported anymore
[21:28] <cruncher> i just want ubuntu+xfce that will hold for long time :)
[21:28] <cruncher> so i guess 16.04 lts is the best option?
[21:29] <tgm4883> cruncher: both would be supported for the same length of time
[21:30] <OerHeks> RoadRunner, you can ask/poll there AFAIK, this channel is not suited for such actions
[21:30] <cruncher> tgm4883, aha, didnt know that, thanks :)
[21:30] <cruncher> thank you too reisio
[21:30] <Bomber4Chats2> http://pastebin.com/CR4WKLWs
[21:30] <Bomber4Chats2> Getting these errors when trying to run make -j7
[21:31] <jinxi> I want to sell all my linux books
[21:31] <teward> OerHeks: Polls are discouraged on Ask Ubuntu
[21:31] <teward> OerHeks: that's an ubuntuforums thing
[21:31] <teward> RoadRunner: ^
[21:31] <tgm4883> ls
[21:32] <reisio> cruncher: Xubuntu is essentially nothing more than Ubuntu with Xfce preinstalled & preconfigured in a particular way
[21:32] <Bomber4Chats2> I'm following this tutorial: http://www.xinzhang.me/install-opencv-with-javascala-support/
[21:32] <Bomber4Chats2> well, I actually switched in the middle to the latest instructions on the openCV website
[21:33] <cruncher> reisio, cool, then i think my choice is still a good one, as its for an older notebook
[21:33] <reisio> cruncher: Xfce is a fine choice for any type of system :)
[21:33] <reisio> but it is lighter than GNOME & KDE
[21:33] <reisio> yes indeed
[21:33] <cruncher> reisio, i know :D i use only xfce, but on debian ;-)
[21:33] <cruncher> (dont hit me guys)
[21:34] <Sebastien> why would this not work: seb@freenode:~/pisg$ sudo ln -s /home/seb/ /var/www/html/
[21:34] <reisio> 's'a more sane choice than Ubuntu, really
[21:34] <cruncher> but the notebook is for my brother, and as it should be as simple+stable as possibl, i chose xubuntu
[21:34] <Sebastien> then i try to run something in /seb/ to /html/ it says permission denied
[21:34] <Sebastien> unless i run it with sudo
[21:34] <Sebastien> but i don't wanna
[21:34] <zicus> !list
[21:34] <reisio> Sebastien: you'd probably have to chown the dir for that user
[21:34] <reisio> Sebastien: or otherwise grant permission
[21:35] <Sebastien> reisio, this makes sense? : sudo chmod ugo+x /var/www/html/
[21:35] <RoadRunner> OerHeks: got it; further regarding Meld, I am running 14.04 Trusty and the latest ver of Meld for it in usc is 1.8.4-1 but the latest ver of Meld (on their site) is 3.16.0.  Is there a more recent Meld ver for 14.04 out there and if so, where do I get it (PPA's with later ver's seem to be pointing to later Ubuntu's)??
[21:35] <johnny___> can anyone help me get wicd running on my machine?
[21:36] <tgm4883> Sebastien: that wouldn't let you run anything in that directory because it doesn't make anything in there executable
[21:36] <Sebastien> nvm got it
[21:36] <Sebastien> sudo chown -R seb:www-data /var/www/html
[21:36] <Sebastien> this worked
[21:37] <Bomber4Chats2> http://pastebin.com/CR4WKLWs
[21:37] <reisio> Sebastien: yes chown as user would be the more ordinary approach, at least for casual local stuff
[21:37] <tgm4883> also way safer than o+x
[21:38] <johnny___> I keep getting an error that says "Could not connect to wicd's D-Bus interface"
[21:38] <johnny___> But I can't find anything in the wicd logs
[21:41] <nacc> RoadRunner: unofficially, no, there is not a more recnet meld for 14.04. You can, as you've done, search teh PPAs, but then ymmv and you're using a ppa version, which is onlysupported by the ppa owner
[21:43] <zicus> http://jumanji.trueshell-host.net/
[21:44] <lpaalp1> ubuntu is a bitch
[21:45] <amundsen> hi
[21:45] <lpaalp1> use kubuntu instead
[21:45] <dax> lpaalp1: support questions only here, please
[21:45] <amundsen> who is developing compiz-fusion now? official website seems to be outdated
[21:47] <tgm4883> amundsen: it's just compiz now
[21:51] <sabel> question time! Any time i shut down or reboot my pc my glitches out REAL hard now..part of the screen goes black and colors show up and i have t hold  the power button to move any further. Any ideas?
[21:52] <TJ-> sabel: you mean you have to hold the power-button down for about 5 seconds to force the PC off?
[21:52] <RoadRunner> nacc: I am ok with that (and may be my search through PPA's wasn't thorough enough) but my problem was even in PPA's I could find a (significantly more) recent ver of Meld for Trusty...
[21:52] <sabel> TJ- yep, if i type reboot or shutdown in the terminal or use the top right power option that happens and i'm forceed to hold the power button down until the pc shuts down
[21:53] <TJ-> sabel: it's a bug in the PC's firmware.
[21:53] <zicus> ciao
[21:53] <sabel> TJ- how would i fix that?
[21:53] <joaqin11> speak spanish?
[21:53] <zicus> ho bisogno di um aiuto
[21:54] <sabel> TJ- or is there no fixing it?
[21:55] <nacc> RoadRunner: hrm, you seem to be right; you might have to build from source if you really need the newer version, unfortunately
[21:55] <TJ-> sabel: ACPI (Advanced Configuration and Power Interface) is responsible for such things. Within ACPI is the Differentiated System Description Table (DSDT) which contains a virtual machine bytecode that is executed by the system
[21:55] <TJ-> sabel: Many, if not most, manufacturers tailor that ACPI DSDT code to recognise and provide full functionality only to Windows
[21:56] <sabel> TJ- oh..is there any harm in just holding the power button?
[21:56] <TJ-> sabel: Linux usally gets the lowest possible (default fallback) features, which can include devices not working at all
[21:56] <TJ-> sabel: the good news is Linux can pretend to be Windows
[21:56] <sabel> TJ- sneaky sneaky
[21:57] <TJ-> sabel: the DSDT code will recognise various versions of Windows so your first step is to identify the versions it recognises. Use this: "sudo strings /sys/firmware/acpi/tables/DSDT | grep -i windows" and show us (in a pastebin) the result
[21:57] <compdoc> sabel, how are you entering the shutdown command?
[21:57] <bprompt> sabel:     hmm what hmm ubuntu version anyway? 14.04?
[21:58] <sabel> TJ- just says windows 2009, 2012, 2013. didnt seem to need a pastebin for that.
[21:59] <TJ-> sabel: right, so the 'best' versions is "Windows 2013" yes? (the capital W is important)
[22:00] <johnny___> can anyone help me? When I try to run wicd I get a I keep getting a "Could not connect to wicd's D-Bus interface" error
[22:01] <sabel> TJ- they actually all have capitals but yeah the newest is 2013
[22:02] <TJ-> sabel: so you can add the kernel command-line parameter to tell it to pretend to be "Windows 2013" by doing: "sudo sed -i 's/^\(GRUB_CMDLINE_LINUX=".*\)"$/\1 acpi_osi=\\"Windows 2013\\""/' /etc/default/grub  "
[22:02] <administrador> Does i-nex works on Ubuntu 14.04 64bit? I can't make it work, I get this error: http://pastebin.com/26QjzxLP
[22:02] <TJ-> sabel: after which the entry will look something like GRUB_CMDLINE_LINUX="acpi_osi=\"Windows 2013\"" if you do "cat /etc/default/grub"
[22:03] <sabel> TJ- yep that worked, Should i reboot and give it a shot?
[22:03] <TJ-> sabel: if that is correct, update grub's boot menu with "sudo update-grub" and next time the PC boots, with luck, the full ACPI functionality will be there and power off might work properly (and other things too!)
[22:03] <sabel> Alrighty wish me luck!
[22:08] <django_> Hey all I'm trying to boot into a Linux distribution in a CD but I have grub2 how can boot into cd room I don't see cd rom in bios
[22:08] <django_> sebsebseb: maybe you around
[22:09] <jagveer> e
[22:09] <jagveer> hello ;D
[22:10] <sebsebseb> django_: yes I happen to be
[22:10] <django_> Yayyyy lol
[22:10] <sebsebseb> django_: you have about an hour max with me :d
[22:10] <django_> So you know my system , I'm trying to boot through a CD
[22:10] <sebsebseb> he h
[22:11] <sebsebseb> django_: I thought you had re installed like I said?
[22:11] <sebsebseb> django_: importnaty as well did you do that pont Grub to the WIndwos EFI option?
[22:11] <django_> Actually I didn't
[22:12] <sebsebseb> django_: that you should have done really
[22:12] <django_> I only reinstalled I never repointrf
[22:12] <sebsebseb> django_: but has it put any Grub on otherwise?
[22:12] <django_> Yeah grhb2 displays
[22:12] <sebsebseb> django_: and  comes up first?
[22:12] <django_> Yeah
[22:13] <sebsebseb> django_:  Windows and Ubuntu both boot up now?  with the Grub 2 coming up first?
[22:13] <django_> Yeah lol
[22:13] <sebsebseb> django_: what was that about CD?
[22:14] <django_> So I have this book for learning hacking and he has a Linux environment In a CD that comes with the book
[22:16] <django_> https://usercontent.irccloud-cdn.com/file/L9Daz5AD/image.JPG
[22:17] <sebsebseb> django_: ok
[22:18] <django_> How do I do the hooking up thing
[22:18] <django_> That I didn't do yesterday
[22:19] <sebsebseb> django_: the point to windows efi thing, well might not ned to do that,  if it works with Grub 2 up first anyway booting up WIndows and Ubuntu
[22:19] <django_> :/
[22:19] <sebsebseb> django_: if you do need to do that though, it's another re install
[22:20] <django_> also the old ubuntu i deleted alo works
[22:20] <django_> i didnt delete after all lol
[22:20] <sebsebseb> django_: trying to boot up from a CD is something else
[22:20] <sebsebseb> django_: or you did  delete it it's just
[22:20] <django_> gonna try these https://support.toshiba.com/support/viewContentDetail?soid=403623
[22:20] <sebsebseb> django_: there's a entry in the tiny bit of GRub that's left on there otherwise
[22:20] <django_> sebsebseb: i booted into the old ubuntu and itts all here
[22:22] <B0g4r7_> So I find that now using ubuntu 16.04, its ssh client has problems connecting to some hosts.  They end up being unable to agree on a hostkey type or on a key exchange algorithm.
[22:22] <B0g4r7_> I'm guessing that some of those things were deemed insecure, and are now disabled by default in 16.04.
[22:22] <sebsebseb> django_: with your data?
[22:23] <django_> Yeah
[22:23] <sebsebseb> django_: I guess you didn't delete tehn
[22:23] <django_> https://usercontent.irccloud-cdn.com/file/BCOpeqUt/1463437403.JPG
[22:23] <sebsebseb> django_: but whatever as long as things boot up and work that's ok :d
[22:23] <django_> Hmmm
[22:23] <django_> I would like to know the soln to the issue :/
[22:25] <sebsebseb> django_: I don't know,  things boot up things seem to work, so that's fine then I guess :)
[22:25] <django_> :/
[22:25] <sebsebseb> django_: what issue?
[22:25] <B0g4r7_> Wow, running badblocks on a 4tb hard drive takes a very long time.  I'm at 17h16m elapsed and it's 81% done with the write cycle.  Then it's got to read and compare which may take as long again.
[22:25] <TJ-> !info openssh-client-ssh1 | B0g4r7_ correct, there's a new package for legacy
[22:25] <sebsebseb> django_: you either got wo Ubuntu installs for som reason now,  but that means Grub got fixed I guess re insatlled :D
[22:26] <sebsebseb> django_: it can still detect old Grub things though if still on there or enough of that
[22:26] <sebsebseb> django_: two above
[22:26] <B0g4r7_> TJ-, thanks.
[22:27] <sebsebseb> django_:  that old install  probably is diffenret or what you think is old some where
[22:28] <django_> I booted into it lol
[22:28] <Solarbaby> I could use some help.  I've installed Ubuntu 16.04 LTS and I need to have a script load when 1 exact usb drive is plugged in.  All docs I've read for the past 2 hours failed to load any scripts.
[22:29] <TJ-> Solarbaby: so you mean script *run* ?
[22:29] <Solarbaby> yes TJ
[22:30] <TJ-> Solarbaby: have you tried using udev rules to fire on the UUID of the device file-system, or the device's serial number?
[22:30] <Solarbaby> the scripts themself all should be okay.. I'ved tested then and I've also put them in /usr/local/bin
[22:31] <Solarbaby> TJ-: ACTION=="add", SUBSYSTEMS=="usb", ENV{ID_SERIAL}=="0000000A004B", RUN+="/bin/sh -c 'echo blah > /var/log/test'"
[22:31] <Solarbaby> I also have another udev rule loading up a script
[22:31] <Solarbaby> neither of these respond though
[22:32] <TJ-> Solarbaby: "SUBSYSTEM==" not "SUBSYSTEMS==" ? typo, or real error?
[22:33] <Solarbaby> TJ-: KERNEL=="sd*1",ACTION=="add",ENV{ID_FS_UUID}=="7e59ec41-9be5-4beb-a36a-2c6b1140021f",RUN="/usr/bin/touch /tmp/chdrive.txt"
[22:33] <Solarbaby> that is the other
[22:33] <Solarbaby> TJ-: I'm not aware of any typos
[22:34] <boxmein> hey
[22:34] <boxmein> does ubuntu copy over the vpn certs to some private store thing?
[22:34] <TJ-> Solarbaby: oh, yeah, it does allow both now
[22:34] <boxmein> so if I move ca.crt/box.crt/box.key, does everything explode
[22:35] <Solarbaby> TJ-: okay so plural or none is fine eh?
[22:35] <Solarbaby> I've even reloaded udev
[22:35] <Solarbaby> rebooted too
[22:36] <jak2000> how to use QUOTA on home dirs? 40gb for user1 and 60gb for user2? how to do?
[22:36] <Solarbaby> those files are in /etc/udev/rules.d
[22:36] <Solarbaby> I also read somewhere that it could be in conf.d so I made that directory and stuck them in there too
[22:36] <TJ-> Solarbaby: on 16.04? yes. The rules have changed a bit over releases, the one that always catches me out is the move to ATTR{,S} instead of ENV{...}
[22:37] <TJ-> Solarbaby: that's the correct location. Have you used "udevadm monitor" and "udevadm trigger" to watch, and simulate, the events?
[22:37] <piercedwater> can anyone tell me how to save a gnome session on Ubuntu 14.04?
[22:37] <piercedwater> across reboot*
[22:38] <Solarbaby> TJ-: no I should do that.  I will do it now
[22:43] <roko> I just installed ubuntu in place of linux mint in a dual booted setting with windows 8 .On rebooting the grub menu does not show windows? Any ideas what I can do?
[22:44] <gsivori> hi everyone
[22:44] <gsivori> i need help :<
[22:44] <unix4linux> when I try to install nvidia-361, I continue to get the following error: http://pastebin.com/aRzpAQJq I am choosing gdm3 when prompted which display manager I want to use. Should I be choosing lightdm?
[22:45] <hutch> 'fedora
[22:45] <hutch> sorry about that. I'm testing freenode in Polari
[22:45] <gsivori> is it possible to migrate a linux partition and swap to a windows disk? both physical disks are in my notebook, but the linux one is not working properly
[22:46] <bekks> gsivori: No.
[22:46] <scythefwd> evenin folks
[22:47] <momofuji> Hi all. Question: are those newer Intel HD graphic cards supported for 2d and 3D in 16.04??
[22:47] <scythefwd> how big is the install size of ubuntu server 32 bit?
[22:47] <momofuji> All I see is talk about nvidia and ati
[22:47] <Umeaboy> momofuji: Depends on which one.
[22:47] <minimec> roko: First I would start ubuntu and do a 'sudo update-grub' in a terminal. If you are lucky your windows 8 will be on the list after a reboot.
[22:47] <gsivori> bekks: any workaround then?
[22:47] <Umeaboy> Do you have a Hybrid graphics card?
[22:48] <Umeaboy> Part nVidia part Intel?
[22:48] <scythefwd> momo, intel has drivers in .deb i believe...
[22:48] <dax> momofuji: anything that isn't Poulsbo (GMA 500, 600, 3600, 3650) should be fine
[22:48] <dax> up to and including Skylake (current-gen)
[22:48] <roko> @minimec Thanks will try that
[22:48] <bekks> gsivori: you'd need to resize partitions and then you might be able to copy contents to the other disk.
[22:49] <momofuji> So, go to Intel website for drivers?!
[22:49] <dax> momofuji: no, they're built-in
[22:49] <Solarbaby> TJ-: maybe I need a super General Rule
[22:49] <dax> Intel has drivers. I wouldn't bother, and they're not supported in #ubuntu.
[22:49] <Solarbaby> TJ-: for testing purposes
[22:49] <momofuji> Oh ok. So they would show as open-source drivers?
[22:49] <dax> momofuji: they're automatically installed, you shouldn't have to do anything
[22:50] <momofuji> Well, if you wanna use 3D acceleration then you always gotta do something lol...
[22:50] <dax> nope.
[22:50] <dax> works fine out of the box on Intel and stuff supported by the radeon FOSS driver. no idea about nvidia.
[22:51] <dax> source: have intel and radeon hardwares
[22:51] <momofuji> Ohh. Fancy. Yeah my old laptops gc is ati and gonna have to upgrade pc now
[22:51] <scythefwd> intels oss drivers are good
[22:51] <bleki> I need a help. After recovering data with foremost, I ended up with many zip files from which I need to find those who are Open Office odt files. How to do it?
[22:52] <gsivori> bekks: the problem is that it won't let me have two primary partitions, and if i create one ext4 for the system. it won't let me create a 5th one for the swap
[22:52] <momofuji> I'm guessing my ati HD 5000 won't work?
[22:52] <gsivori> bekks: windows is currently using 3(boot, windows and data)
[22:52] <bekks> gsivori: Windows is capable of 4 primary partitions.
[22:52] <momofuji> It's a laptop card
[22:52] <bekks> gsivori: So your only chance is using an extended partition, which is fine for linux.
[22:52] <dax> momofuji: write LiveUSB, stick in computer, try it out
[22:53] <momofuji> I did and it didn't show any frglx drivers
[22:53] <dax> i said radeon FOSS driver
[22:53] <dax> i also said it works out of the box
[22:54] <dax> 16.04 doesn't have fglrx, use radeon or (for GCN 1.2 cards, i.e. very new ones) amdgpu
[22:55] <scythefwd> gsivori.. see if grep can read zip files?
[22:55] <momofuji> Kinda sad that my beloved Linux forces me to buy a new pc
[22:56] <Jaxel> hey guys
[22:56] <scythefwd> bleki- can grep handle zips?
[22:56] <momofuji> But nvidia will work with 16.04?
[22:56] <scythefwd> why would it do that momo?
[22:57] <bleki> scythefwd: probably yes, what I found on internet suggest yes
[22:58] <scythefwd> theres your answer..
[22:58] <bleki> so i should grem "looking phrase" *?
[22:58] <bleki> mean grep
[22:59] <momofuji> Cuz usually nvidia seems to be the winner when it comes to Linux gaming?
[23:01] <Jaxel> anyone knows how to close channels open in IRSSI?
[23:01] <pilne> is hibernation safe in ubuntu yet?
[23:01] <unix4linux> when I try to install nvidia-361, I continue to get the following error: http://pastebin.com/aRzpAQJq I am choosing gdm3 when prompted which display manager I want to use. Should I be choosing lightdm?
[23:03] <minimec> Jaxel: /wc -> window close
[23:04] <minimec> Jaxel: you can also /wc 3 --> close window number 3 ...
[23:04] <Jaxel> Thanks mate, lovely
[23:15] <burritosan> hi
[23:15] <Jaxel> ohaai
[23:15] <burritosan> Jaxel: where it off topic?
[23:16] <Bashing-om> burritosan: #ubuntu-offtopic .
[23:16] <burritosan> thanks Bashing-om ya weeble
[23:17] <Jaxel> burritosan: wut
[23:17] <burritosan> Jaxel: f off
[23:17] <Bashing-om> burritosan: Glad to help .
[23:17] <Majora320> Hello, world!
[23:17] <Jaxel> burritosan: gtfo
[23:22] <burritosan> Jaxel: woops wrong chat room
[23:26] <hk55> oii
[23:26] <hk55> alguem ai
[23:26] <Jaxel> ohaii
[23:27] <hk55> pra conversar
[23:27] <Jaxel> i feel offended
[23:27] <hk55> not
[23:27] <thomasross> Hi, what PPA can I add to get gstreamer 1.0-0 on precise/12.04 LTS?
[23:28] <thomasross> gstreamer-developers/ppa is 404ing now
[23:33] <burritosan> zigggggy: can I get advice
[23:34] <minimec> thomasross: probably a sign to upgrade to 14.04. I upgraded my last machine from 12.04 to 14.04 like three months ago... So
[23:35] <thomasross> minimec: cant... travis is still on 12.04
[23:40] <johntittor2000> I run Ubuntu gnome 16.04 on my laptop and I don't know how to make the computer suspend when I close the lid
[23:40] <johntittor2000> where can I configure that?
[23:41] <asdf-> can someone point me to what is considered best practice for SSD caching? I'm finding different guides on ubuntu.com and they are all 1+ years old
[23:41] <minimec> johntittor2000: First we would need the exact model of that laptop...
[23:41] <johntittor2000> it's an acer Aspire E1-432-2829
[23:42] <Hoffman> heya
[23:43] <bprompt> johntittor2000:     install -> gnome-tweak-tool <- then run it, and check under Power, click on the [ON] button
[23:43] <johntittor2000> ohh sorry, yes yes
[23:43] <B0g4r7_> asdf-, I don't know about best practice.  The options I see out there are bcache and lvmcache.  I'm using lvmcache and it works OK for me.  I never tried bcache.
[23:44] <johntittor2000> I forgot to check under tweak
[23:44] <johntittor2000> cause the ubuntu 14.04 had the option in settings
[23:44] <bprompt> johntittor2000:    well, it's a pulldown list, anyhow, pick Suspend
[23:44] <johntittor2000> thanks
[23:44] <johntittor2000> cheers
[23:44] <Hoffman> my /etc/modprobe.d/iwlwifi.conf contains (/sbin/lsmod | grep -o -e ^iwlmvm -e ^iwldvm -e ^iwlwifi | xargs /sbin/rmmod) \ && /sbin/modprobe -r mac80211
[23:44] <Hoffman> why would it do this
[23:44] <mcphail> asdf-: I use bcache, and would be happy to give it the thumbs-up
[23:44] <Hoffman> it seems like it's not using the iwlwifi modules at all
[23:44] <Hoffman> and is instead using the mac80211 module
[23:44] <B0g4r7_> The only real snag I hit is that /boot cannot live on the cached LV.  I had to break it out into a separate LV.
[23:45] <asdf-> mcphail, thank you
[23:45] <asdf-> mcphail, have you given dm-cache a shot?
[23:45] <mcphail> asdf-: no. Only bcache
[23:45] <asdf-> mcphail, thanks... i'll give that a shot
[23:46] <B0g4r7_> I'm in the process of building a file server on which I plan to also use lvmcache.
[23:46] <mcphail> asdf-: beware, though - https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/ubiquity/+bug/1515068
[23:46] <asdf-> B0g4r7_, how did you go about picking lvmcache?
[23:47] <asdf-> mcphail, can i setup bcache while i have the SSD installed with everything already?
[23:47] <B0g4r7_> asdf-, there's no nice option in the installer or anything.  I pretty much followed this guide: http://scyu.logdown.com/posts/519001-ubuntu-lvmcache-setup
[23:48] <mcphail> asdf-: no. You need to wipe the SSD. You can convert the HDD backing, if all your data is on that already
[23:49] <B0g4r7_> lvmcache (which I guess is the same thing as dm-cache) is the same way.  You can convert an existing lv to become cached.
[23:49] <administrador> Does i-nex works on Ubuntu 14.04 64bit? I can't make it work, I get this error: http://pastebin.com/26QjzxLP
[23:49] <effectnet> ohhhhh im gonna put ubuntu on a fresh ssd i think, 64g so kinda small.  i wonder what partitions i put on there
[23:49] <B0g4r7_> And, if you wish, split the cache device back off it, making the lv once again uncached.
[23:50] <asdf-> B0g4r7_, thanks