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SwitchesMan I'm getting to hate G+.. to many Arch fanbois lol02:24
daftykinsXD02:45
daftykinsit's the new gentoo for Linux ricers!02:45
SwitchesMore like Gentoo for n00bs :p02:48
SwitchesNa tbh I just hate that they all seem to post in G+ Ubuntu channel as soon as they see a small bug "oh switch to Arch"..02:49
SwitchesAs if Arch is the "cure all" for Linux problems..02:50
SwitchesMore coffee...02:51
daftykins:)02:51
SwitchesRofl well thats a good laugh for the morning http://www.linuxtoday.com/security/selinux-vs-systemd-whats-safer-for-linux-servers.html06:17
MooDoomorning all06:47
SwitchesMorning06:47
brobostigonmorning boys and girls.07:32
SwitchesHeya07:32
foobarryany recommendations for a motion detecting wifi camera to monitor activity of the back of a house while builders are in?08:12
foobarry(asking for a friend)08:12
diploCan't recommend any foobarry, but for a cheap solution could use a webcam and that software that has gone blank since I started typing08:20
diploAh is it motion08:21
TwistedLucidityAny webcam + ZoneAlarm08:27
diploah that was the other one08:34
foobarryfound a bunch on amazon08:37
foobarryalthough distubringly high number of reviewers have received discounts in exchange for complimentary reviews08:37
JamesTaitGood morning all!  Happy Tuesday, and happy World Telecommunications Day! 😃  📡 🛰09:07
SuperMattI thought that was a bee, rather than a satellite09:09
TwistedLucidityfoobarry: If it's a plug-and-play IP camera where you have to go to the company's service to use it (or similar); I wouldn't trust the damned thing.09:13
foobarrythere are some that integrate with synology NAS etc09:14
foobarryand stream to your tablet09:14
SuperMattIf I was to set up a camera system, I would certainly do it in my own house and have it upload images to my server (so if someone steals the cameras and upload server, I still have the info)09:14
nucc1does syslog make any attempts to preserve message order?09:22
diddledanmorning10:50
SuperMattg'day10:52
diddledangot an interview in a couple of minutes10:52
SuperMattgood luck10:56
SuperMattI'm sure you'll do well10:56
diddledanfingers crossed10:58
diddledanand done11:31
SwitchesSure you ace'd it mate11:35
SuperMattwhat was it for?11:36
SuperMattI assume it was a phone interview?11:36
Myrttiterribly convinient that on the day I want orange soda, the milkman comes with a celebratory sample bottle of Orangina because they're launching it as one of their available products. I approve, 5/7 would recommend11:36
diddledanskype :-)11:38
diddledanit was for a PHP backend dev role11:38
SuperMattI hope you get a face to face11:39
SuperMatt(and subsequently the job)11:39
diddledanthanks :-D11:41
MooDoo:)12:37
davmor2Morning all12:44
MooDoohowdy davmor212:55
=== phablet is now known as popeyM10
diddledanhttps://twitter.com/mjg59/status/73261628192539033616:59
daftykinsbrave :P17:00
diddledanooh, googacle - google might have caught someone from oracle on a contradiction17:01
zmoylan-piit's definitely duck season!! :-P17:02
=== alan_g is now known as alan_g|EOD
diddledanhttps://twitter.com/sarahjeong/status/73262126843697561717:18
diddledangotta get the important things in court right17:19
diddledanooh, I finally found out what the new feature on the pizero is17:22
davmor2diddledan: pfff mhall119 did his from a nexus4 in converged mode over a projector on unity8 with mir can't blag me with your wayland bragging ;)17:22
diddledanhttp://www.theregister.co.uk/2016/05/17/raspberry_pi_zero_gains_a_camera_connector/17:22
diddledandavmor2: nice17:22
diddledandavmor2: is there video?17:23
diddledanI’d like to watch it if there is17:23
davmor2diddledan: there is17:23
davmor2diddledan: I'll try and find the link after I think it was Euro conference iirc17:24
sebsebsebhi17:52
sebsebsebhi17:52
daftykins\o18:00
* diddledan uses powershell for something and hates himself at how sublime it was18:11
daftykinso018:11
diddledanI feel dirty18:13
* zmoylan-pi notes diddledan down as stage 1 linux user dabbling in powershell... suprised at how easy it is initally.18:13
diddledanzmoylan-pi: what’s stage2?18:14
* zmoylan-pi waits till diddledan reaches stage 5 lying in fetal position weeping at time wasted...18:14
zmoylan-pistage 2 is using it for more and more stuff18:14
davmor2diddledan: use bash on windows instead ;)18:17
diddledanhaha: https://twitter.com/xor/status/73263648095106252818:19
zmoylan-pifavourite ms bug of the day... https://support.microsoft.com/en-us/kb/305371118:19
diddledanlmao18:20
daftykinsoops18:21
daftykinsi always call a user "User" when there isn't someone specific using the machine, too ;)18:21
daftykinsbut ah well that's 8.1 :)18:21
zmoylan-pihot desking? then you'll a really beefy desktop... :-D18:22
zmoylan-piset up my first chromebook today, didn't hate... well apart from the keyboard, lack of options, lack of storage... :-P18:23
daftykinsnah just when it's an older spare system, or shared domestic PC18:23
daftykinshah18:23
daftykinswas it a nasty 1366x768 screen res type with 2GB RAM?18:24
zmoylan-pisounds about right18:24
diddledaneww18:24
zmoylan-pislap linux on it and it'd be a lot better18:24
diddledanbig pixies ftl18:24
diddledansmall goats ftl, too18:25
diddledanI need a huge goat18:25
zmoylan-pi2nd channel discussing goats that i've been in today...18:25
diddledanram18:25
davmor2diddledan: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hk1c_rh2mc818:26
diddledandanke18:26
zmoylan-pistill months to go till puck fair... https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Puck_Fair18:26
daftykinszmoylan-pi: not with the terrible specs :P18:32
diddledanzmoylan-pi: puck that!1!18:33
zmoylan-pii still have a single netbook running on 1gb of ram... it's grand for light use18:33
diddledanI need many18:34
zmoylan-pimore is better but sometimes simplicity minimalism can be non distracting :-)18:34
diddledanmy pc with 16giganuts refused to open a vm because there weren’t enough nuts18:35
* zmoylan-pi loans diddledan a big stick to give it a damn good trashing18:35
daftykinswith what DE?18:38
daftykinsnetbooks sucked on release, you can't do any modern web browsing with something like that18:38
zmoylan-piyou can... if patient... :-)18:39
daftykinshell to the no18:39
zmoylan-pii used the 1gb system till last year as my main system18:39
zmoylan-pijust too slow now for everyday use but grand for out and about and light use. especially with 14 hour battery life18:40
zmoylan-pigive me a console, python and vim to steer them by... :-)18:41
daftykinsi've only ever seen Linux trash systems battery, but i'd seen user after user in #ubuntu come in with what had to be kernel regressions for the graphics running so badly since 12.0418:42
diddledannicht gewinkelwaggen bitte18:43
diddledanoops18:43
diddledanwrong root18:43
diddledanroom18:43
daftykinsWas ist gewinkelwaggen?18:45
diddledanwaggen mit deine winkel18:45
diddledanbehave now, popey is here18:45
daftykinsach, ich verstehe Sie18:45
daftykinshey i always behave!18:46
zmoylan-pigort, klatu barada niktu18:46
SuperEngineerSeriously considering buying a OnePlus One as replacement for current [*very*] old phone.  I fancy cyanogenmod rather than google everywhere [but have never tried cyanogenmod].18:46
SuperEngineerI hunted around the web for issues [I use EE do so don't care about the band 20 issue].  Any warnings to share?  Any best way to purchase from & receive in UK?  Any advice gratefully appreciated.18:47
daftykinsoneplus one is quite old now i would've thought18:47
daftykinsi bought a one and a two and sold them immediately :D18:47
SuperEngineerdaftykins: oh, that doesn't sound good :(  Why?18:48
daftykinsoh i only sold them for profit18:49
SuperEngineerlol18:49
daftykinsi had those invites they did18:49
SuperEngineerIdn't the invite bit over now?18:49
daftykinsyes18:49
SuperEngineer*Isn't18:50
SuperEngineercool18:50
daftykinsbut yeah that messy split of theirs between cyanogenmod and themselves, can you even get an up to date build of android via CM on them anymore o018:50
SuperEngineergetting worried noe18:50
diddledanoh yeah, I’d forgotten they forked18:50
daftykinshttp://download.cyanogenmod.org/?device=bacon18:51
daftykinsi found the things huge XD18:51
diddledangotta love bacon18:52
SuperEngineer[just checked Andriod version on old phone... 2.3.6!!!] I've had this phone too long methinks ;-)18:54
diddledan:-o18:55
diddledanissat gingerbread?18:55
SuperEngineermethinks yes18:55
diddledanwhich handset is it?18:55
diddledanprobably one of the oldest available18:55
zmoylan-pii still have my first android phone here atm.  shipped with donut i think :-)18:55
diddledanstill operational*18:56
diddledanI had an HTC Magic way back when android was new18:56
SuperEngineerthe cheapy Samsung GT-S5830118:56
SuperEngineerdiddledan: ^18:56
zmoylan-pihtc hero here with the annoying 'chin'18:56
DJonesdiddledan: I've still got one of them floating round in a drawer18:56
diddledanone of these - the first “smart” phone I ever owned: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/HTC_Magic18:57
DJonesdiddledan: For its day,it was good, now, it'd be like comparing a 286 with an i718:58
diddledanyeah I loved it18:58
zmoylan-pii miss the symbian phones we had before 'smart' phones.  did what i wanted and had decent battery lives and software18:59
* zmoylan-pi waits till someone makes a decent rasp pi phone :-)18:59
* DJones hands zmoylan-pi a razor, he'll need it waiting unless he wants to look like gandalf19:00
zmoylan-pimore a v from order of the stick magic wielder...19:01
sebsebsebhi19:02
* SuperEngineer still has 3 old Nokia dumb phones ... ! is still in use!] really ought to recycly those 1 day19:02
sebsebsebSuperEngineer: old Nokia phones you use for what?19:03
* zmoylan-pi pats my nokia asha 302 fondly19:03
zmoylan-pihammers, chisels... :-)19:03
daftykinsSuperEngineer: i've a 64GB one of these on my desk doing nothing i could sell for super cheap - http://www.gsmarena.com/htc_one_x+-4976.php19:03
SuperEngineerthe 1 still in use is supplied by firm [if they remeber even doing that] but is still in daily use19:03
daftykinscertainly not new mind you19:03
* brobostigon hugs his n800 and n900/19:04
SuperEngineerthat's the same firm who think I'm going to be using thweir top end Samsung tablet as a phone!19:04
* SuperEngineer imagines walking around holding a 919:05
zmoylan-piand your entire 200 item shopping list written on your other hand... :-)19:06
SuperEngineer(7 screen to ear... shouting "Hello... Can you hear me - I'm in library"]  ;-)19:06
zmoylan-pii had to explain that joke in another channel to the 'children' there :-)19:07
SuperEngineer:D19:07
zmoylan-pired fox to grey squirrel, red fox to grey squirrel... :-)19:07
diddledanzmoylan-pi: nokia 302: Found19:08
diddledanthen of course Nokia 404: Not Found19:09
zmoylan-pihttp://www.gsmarena.com/nokia_asha_302-4546.php19:09
diddledanand Nokia 500: FAIL-WHALE19:10
SuperEngineerActually had the experiance once of being a passenger in car, using one the "early" mobile phones19:10
SuperEngineer...complete with power pack & main control hanging in casre on shoulder..19:10
zmoylan-picompany i worked for in late 80s had a 'mobile' phone.  weighed a kilo about size and shape of vhs cassette19:10
diddledanSuperEngineer: you mean one of these? https://www.thewhizcells.com/wp-content/uploads/2016/04/4_lethal-weapon.jpg19:10
SuperEngineer...19:11
daftykinsDanny Golver19:11
zmoylan-pibattery life new measured in minutes19:11
diddledanGlover*19:11
daftykinsah man, peoples tendancy to typo the shortest things in images they share blows my mind19:11
SuperEngineerlooks frightenly familiar19:11
daftykinssorry Govler :)19:11
daftykinsSuperEngineer: don't fancy the HTC then? :)19:12
sebsebsebWOO party TIME!19:12
sebsebsebI can watch my 15.10 upgrade the termian out put19:12
sebsebsebupgrade to 16.04, oh yeah MAN how AWESOME19:12
sebsebsebgeek out/!19:12
SuperEngineerdaftykins: [would have been easier to write conversation on a sheet of cardboard & hold it to windscreen19:12
daftykins:D19:13
diddledantermian19:13
diddledan?19:13
SuperEngineernot yet investigated the HTC daftykins19:13
daftykinsi really wish that guy would cut the spam19:13
SuperEngineerwell - user list says troll gone now19:15
zmoylan-pii do have one system on 16.04 xubuntu and it's quite nippy19:15
SuperEngineer[as an aside... I wondered why oven timer started beeping just now - answer: when one concentratrartes on both oven and IRC one might actually find one set timer to 30 seconds rather than 30 minutes! DOH!]19:18
SuperEngineer*concentrates19:18
daftykins:D19:19
zmoylan-piweird i set my timer i use for cooking for 25 hours rather than 25 minutes earlier19:19
diddledanawesome misspeelign19:20
daftykinsguaranteed cremation19:20
daftykinsif only shauno were still here to tell us the correct variant of murphy's law19:20
zmoylan-pinah, my nose backup detected it pre burning :-)19:20
* SuperEngineer sings "weeee - I'm not the only one, I'm not the only one, I'm not the only one"19:21
diddledanI ruined a pizza the other day19:21
diddledanput the oven on the wrong temperature19:21
daftykinszmoylan-pi: impressive!19:21
daftykinsdiddledan: that's a true crime19:21
SuperEngineeryeah, but you kept the fire brigade from getting bored, didn't you?19:21
SuperEngineer[I wonder what their code is for "another pizza nistiming call boys"]19:22
zmoylan-picode carbon frisbee19:25
daftykinscode dentist o'clock ;)19:25
daftykins*crunch*19:25
* zmoylan-pi pulls off nubit wearable for daily charging...19:34
DJonesIs that one of those HM Prison's tags? :)19:37
zmoylan-pii hope so as it has no idea were i am... :-P19:38
DJonesAh, managed by G4S then19:38
zmoylan-pii have written software for g4s... yes... :-)19:38
zmoylan-piwell... g4s ireland19:39

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