[02:24] Man I'm getting to hate G+.. to many Arch fanbois lol [02:45] XD [02:45] it's the new gentoo for Linux ricers! [02:48] More like Gentoo for n00bs :p [02:49] Na tbh I just hate that they all seem to post in G+ Ubuntu channel as soon as they see a small bug "oh switch to Arch".. [02:50] As if Arch is the "cure all" for Linux problems.. [02:51] More coffee... [02:51] :) [06:17] Rofl well thats a good laugh for the morning http://www.linuxtoday.com/security/selinux-vs-systemd-whats-safer-for-linux-servers.html [06:47] morning all [06:47] Morning [07:32] morning boys and girls. [07:32] Heya [08:12] any recommendations for a motion detecting wifi camera to monitor activity of the back of a house while builders are in? [08:12] (asking for a friend) [08:20] Can't recommend any foobarry, but for a cheap solution could use a webcam and that software that has gone blank since I started typing [08:21] Ah is it motion [08:27] Any webcam + ZoneAlarm [08:34] ah that was the other one [08:37] found a bunch on amazon [08:37] although distubringly high number of reviewers have received discounts in exchange for complimentary reviews [09:07] Good morning all! Happy Tuesday, and happy World Telecommunications Day! 😃 📡 🛰 [09:09] I thought that was a bee, rather than a satellite [09:13] foobarry: If it's a plug-and-play IP camera where you have to go to the company's service to use it (or similar); I wouldn't trust the damned thing. [09:14] there are some that integrate with synology NAS etc [09:14] and stream to your tablet [09:14] If I was to set up a camera system, I would certainly do it in my own house and have it upload images to my server (so if someone steals the cameras and upload server, I still have the info) [09:22] does syslog make any attempts to preserve message order? [10:50] morning [10:52] g'day [10:52] got an interview in a couple of minutes [10:56] good luck [10:56] I'm sure you'll do well [10:58] fingers crossed [11:31] and done [11:35] Sure you ace'd it mate [11:36] what was it for? [11:36] I assume it was a phone interview? [11:36] terribly convinient that on the day I want orange soda, the milkman comes with a celebratory sample bottle of Orangina because they're launching it as one of their available products. I approve, 5/7 would recommend [11:38] skype :-) [11:38] it was for a PHP backend dev role [11:39] I hope you get a face to face [11:39] (and subsequently the job) [11:41] thanks :-D [12:37] :) [12:44] Morning all [12:55] howdy davmor2 === phablet is now known as popeyM10 [16:59] https://twitter.com/mjg59/status/732616281925390336 [17:00] brave :P [17:01] ooh, googacle - google might have caught someone from oracle on a contradiction [17:02] it's definitely duck season!! :-P === alan_g is now known as alan_g|EOD [17:18] https://twitter.com/sarahjeong/status/732621268436975617 [17:19] gotta get the important things in court right [17:22] ooh, I finally found out what the new feature on the pizero is [17:22] diddledan: pfff mhall119 did his from a nexus4 in converged mode over a projector on unity8 with mir can't blag me with your wayland bragging ;) [17:22] http://www.theregister.co.uk/2016/05/17/raspberry_pi_zero_gains_a_camera_connector/ [17:22] davmor2: nice [17:23] davmor2: is there video? [17:23] I’d like to watch it if there is [17:23] diddledan: there is [17:24] diddledan: I'll try and find the link after I think it was Euro conference iirc [17:52] hi [17:52] hi [18:00] \o [18:11] * diddledan uses powershell for something and hates himself at how sublime it was [18:11] o0 [18:13] I feel dirty [18:13] * zmoylan-pi notes diddledan down as stage 1 linux user dabbling in powershell... suprised at how easy it is initally. [18:14] zmoylan-pi: what’s stage2? [18:14] * zmoylan-pi waits till diddledan reaches stage 5 lying in fetal position weeping at time wasted... [18:14] stage 2 is using it for more and more stuff [18:17] diddledan: use bash on windows instead ;) [18:19] haha: https://twitter.com/xor/status/732636480951062528 [18:19] favourite ms bug of the day... https://support.microsoft.com/en-us/kb/3053711 [18:20] lmao [18:21] oops [18:21] i always call a user "User" when there isn't someone specific using the machine, too ;) [18:21] but ah well that's 8.1 :) [18:22] hot desking? then you'll a really beefy desktop... :-D [18:23] set up my first chromebook today, didn't hate... well apart from the keyboard, lack of options, lack of storage... :-P [18:23] nah just when it's an older spare system, or shared domestic PC [18:23] hah [18:24] was it a nasty 1366x768 screen res type with 2GB RAM? [18:24] sounds about right [18:24] eww [18:24] slap linux on it and it'd be a lot better [18:24] big pixies ftl [18:25] small goats ftl, too [18:25] I need a huge goat [18:25] 2nd channel discussing goats that i've been in today... [18:25] ram [18:26] diddledan: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hk1c_rh2mc8 [18:26] danke [18:26] still months to go till puck fair... https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Puck_Fair [18:32] zmoylan-pi: not with the terrible specs :P [18:33] zmoylan-pi: puck that!1! [18:33] i still have a single netbook running on 1gb of ram... it's grand for light use [18:34] I need many [18:34] more is better but sometimes simplicity minimalism can be non distracting :-) [18:35] my pc with 16giganuts refused to open a vm because there weren’t enough nuts [18:35] * zmoylan-pi loans diddledan a big stick to give it a damn good trashing [18:38] with what DE? [18:38] netbooks sucked on release, you can't do any modern web browsing with something like that [18:39] you can... if patient... :-) [18:39] hell to the no [18:39] i used the 1gb system till last year as my main system [18:40] just too slow now for everyday use but grand for out and about and light use. especially with 14 hour battery life [18:41] give me a console, python and vim to steer them by... :-) [18:42] i've only ever seen Linux trash systems battery, but i'd seen user after user in #ubuntu come in with what had to be kernel regressions for the graphics running so badly since 12.04 [18:43] nicht gewinkelwaggen bitte [18:43] oops [18:43] wrong root [18:43] room [18:45] Was ist gewinkelwaggen? [18:45] waggen mit deine winkel [18:45] behave now, popey is here [18:45] ach, ich verstehe Sie [18:46] hey i always behave! [18:46] gort, klatu barada niktu [18:46] Seriously considering buying a OnePlus One as replacement for current [*very*] old phone. I fancy cyanogenmod rather than google everywhere [but have never tried cyanogenmod]. [18:47] I hunted around the web for issues [I use EE do so don't care about the band 20 issue]. Any warnings to share? Any best way to purchase from & receive in UK? Any advice gratefully appreciated. [18:47] oneplus one is quite old now i would've thought [18:47] i bought a one and a two and sold them immediately :D [18:48] daftykins: oh, that doesn't sound good :( Why? [18:49] oh i only sold them for profit [18:49] lol [18:49] i had those invites they did [18:49] Idn't the invite bit over now? [18:49] yes [18:50] *Isn't [18:50] cool [18:50] but yeah that messy split of theirs between cyanogenmod and themselves, can you even get an up to date build of android via CM on them anymore o0 [18:50] getting worried noe [18:50] oh yeah, I’d forgotten they forked [18:51] http://download.cyanogenmod.org/?device=bacon [18:51] i found the things huge XD [18:52] gotta love bacon [18:54] [just checked Andriod version on old phone... 2.3.6!!!] I've had this phone too long methinks ;-) [18:55] :-o [18:55] issat gingerbread? [18:55] methinks yes [18:55] which handset is it? [18:55] probably one of the oldest available [18:55] i still have my first android phone here atm. shipped with donut i think :-) [18:56] still operational* [18:56] I had an HTC Magic way back when android was new [18:56] the cheapy Samsung GT-S58301 [18:56] diddledan: ^ [18:56] htc hero here with the annoying 'chin' [18:56] diddledan: I've still got one of them floating round in a drawer [18:57] one of these - the first “smart” phone I ever owned: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/HTC_Magic [18:58] diddledan: For its day,it was good, now, it'd be like comparing a 286 with an i7 [18:58] yeah I loved it [18:59] i miss the symbian phones we had before 'smart' phones. did what i wanted and had decent battery lives and software [18:59] * zmoylan-pi waits till someone makes a decent rasp pi phone :-) [19:00] * DJones hands zmoylan-pi a razor, he'll need it waiting unless he wants to look like gandalf [19:01] more a v from order of the stick magic wielder... [19:02] hi [19:02] * SuperEngineer still has 3 old Nokia dumb phones ... ! is still in use!] really ought to recycly those 1 day [19:03] SuperEngineer: old Nokia phones you use for what? [19:03] * zmoylan-pi pats my nokia asha 302 fondly [19:03] hammers, chisels... :-) [19:03] SuperEngineer: i've a 64GB one of these on my desk doing nothing i could sell for super cheap - http://www.gsmarena.com/htc_one_x+-4976.php [19:03] the 1 still in use is supplied by firm [if they remeber even doing that] but is still in daily use [19:03] certainly not new mind you [19:04] * brobostigon hugs his n800 and n900/ [19:04] that's the same firm who think I'm going to be using thweir top end Samsung tablet as a phone! [19:05] * SuperEngineer imagines walking around holding a 9 [19:06] and your entire 200 item shopping list written on your other hand... :-) [19:06] (7 screen to ear... shouting "Hello... Can you hear me - I'm in library"] ;-) [19:07] i had to explain that joke in another channel to the 'children' there :-) [19:07] :D [19:07] red fox to grey squirrel, red fox to grey squirrel... :-) [19:08] zmoylan-pi: nokia 302: Found [19:09] then of course Nokia 404: Not Found [19:09] http://www.gsmarena.com/nokia_asha_302-4546.php [19:10] and Nokia 500: FAIL-WHALE [19:10] Actually had the experiance once of being a passenger in car, using one the "early" mobile phones [19:10] ...complete with power pack & main control hanging in casre on shoulder.. [19:10] company i worked for in late 80s had a 'mobile' phone. weighed a kilo about size and shape of vhs cassette [19:10] SuperEngineer: you mean one of these? https://www.thewhizcells.com/wp-content/uploads/2016/04/4_lethal-weapon.jpg [19:11] ... [19:11] Danny Golver [19:11] battery life new measured in minutes [19:11] Glover* [19:11] ah man, peoples tendancy to typo the shortest things in images they share blows my mind [19:11] looks frightenly familiar [19:11] sorry Govler :) [19:12] SuperEngineer: don't fancy the HTC then? :) [19:12] WOO party TIME! [19:12] I can watch my 15.10 upgrade the termian out put [19:12] upgrade to 16.04, oh yeah MAN how AWESOME [19:12] geek out/! [19:12] daftykins: [would have been easier to write conversation on a sheet of cardboard & hold it to windscreen [19:13] :D [19:13] termian [19:13] ? [19:13] not yet investigated the HTC daftykins [19:13] i really wish that guy would cut the spam [19:15] well - user list says troll gone now [19:15] i do have one system on 16.04 xubuntu and it's quite nippy [19:18] [as an aside... I wondered why oven timer started beeping just now - answer: when one concentratrartes on both oven and IRC one might actually find one set timer to 30 seconds rather than 30 minutes! DOH!] [19:18] *concentrates [19:19] :D [19:19] weird i set my timer i use for cooking for 25 hours rather than 25 minutes earlier [19:20] awesome misspeelign [19:20] guaranteed cremation [19:20] if only shauno were still here to tell us the correct variant of murphy's law [19:20] nah, my nose backup detected it pre burning :-) [19:21] * SuperEngineer sings "weeee - I'm not the only one, I'm not the only one, I'm not the only one" [19:21] I ruined a pizza the other day [19:21] put the oven on the wrong temperature [19:21] zmoylan-pi: impressive! [19:21] diddledan: that's a true crime [19:21] yeah, but you kept the fire brigade from getting bored, didn't you? [19:22] [I wonder what their code is for "another pizza nistiming call boys"] [19:25] code carbon frisbee [19:25] code dentist o'clock ;) [19:25] *crunch* [19:34] * zmoylan-pi pulls off nubit wearable for daily charging... [19:37] Is that one of those HM Prison's tags? :) [19:38] i hope so as it has no idea were i am... :-P [19:38] Ah, managed by G4S then [19:38] i have written software for g4s... yes... :-) [19:39] well... g4s ireland