| n-iCe | hi | 04:47 |
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| akis | I faced some issues during 16.04 installation. Anyone has already installed 16.04? | 04:51 |
| elky | explain the issues and someone will answer if they can | 04:53 |
| n-iCe | hi | 04:54 |
| n-iCe | akis: a lot of people | 04:54 |
| akis | n-iCe: hi. The 'unsafe-swap-space' bug since 12.04 is still here. i try to override it following this http://askubuntu.com/questions/393418/unsafe-swap-space-detected but i cannot open any terminal to give the command sudo swapoff -all. There is a GUI option to open a LXterminal but there is no prompt line to enter the command. Any help? | 04:58 |
| n-iCe | ok | 04:59 |
| n-iCe | change tty | 04:59 |
| n-iCe | and use the console | 04:59 |
| akis | n-iCe: how can i do that? | 05:06 |
| akis | n-iCe: do you mean change desktop? | 05:07 |
| akis | n-iCe: i tried this http://unix.stackexchange.com/questions/167386/how-to-switch-between-tty-and-xorg-session but doesnt accepti alt+ctrl+F1 , F2 etc | 05:08 |
| akis | n-iCe: i tried this http://unix.stackexchange.com/questions/167386/how-to-switch-between-tty-and-xorg-session but doesnt accepti alt+ctrl+F1 , F2 etc | 05:11 |
| n-iCe | 's back | 05:27 |
| akis | n-iCe: i tried this http://unix.stackexchange.com/questions/167386/how-to-switch-between-tty-and-xorg-session but doesnt accepti alt+ctrl+F1 , F2 etc | 05:30 |
| n-iCe | it should | 05:32 |
| n-iCe | I think mine does. | 05:32 |
| n-iCe | Any way, why are you gettnig that error? | 05:33 |
| n-iCe | Did not read, power went off. | 05:33 |
| akis | first the 16.04 cannot be tried without installation. Hungs. So i tried the installation option. But if i choose the fully disk encryption i am getting the 'unsafe-swap-space' message (old bug). And i cannot override it following user's instructions. | 05:38 |
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| n-iCe | hi | 16:17 |
| mohsen_1 | Hi | 16:58 |
| mohsen_1 | Does lubuntu have a composite manager by default | 16:58 |
| mohsen_1 | ? | 16:58 |
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| krytarik | mohsen_1: Nope. | 17:03 |
| mohsen_1 | And the pause in video play back is because of that? | 17:03 |
| mohsen_1 | I have a fresh install of lubuntu. | 17:04 |
| krytarik | mohsen_1: No, it's actually the other way around - using a compositing manager *increases* the chance of something like that. | 17:06 |
| mohsen_1 | But I the exact problem on another distro(that didn't have a composite manager by default), and the problem disappeared when I installed a composite manager. | 17:07 |
| krytarik | Well, you can try of course. | 17:08 |
| n-iCe | https://events.google.com/io2016/ | 17:31 |
| krytarik | n-iCe: Why pasting this here? | 17:35 |
| n-iCe | so you to watch | 17:36 |
| syntax_ | Hi. I was wondering if someone would be able to help me with a problem that I have encountered trying to install wine which, after googling, I have not been able to resolve. | 18:12 |
| syntax_ | I've followed the install instructions on the Wine website but got this output: https://pastee.org/whqs4 after running: "sudo apt-get install --install-recommends winehq-devel" | 18:13 |
| syntax_ | Wine webpage for reference: https://wiki.winehq.org/Ubuntu | 18:14 |
| Nitrigaur | I have installed Lubuntu 16.04 and it feels much slower than it's predecessor 15.10 on the same system: Mac 2.1 @2.2GHz Core 2 Duo, using 4GB of RAM. Any idea what might cause this? | 18:28 |
| wxl | Nitrigaur: nothing stands out. how did you measure the difference? | 18:29 |
| n-iCe | o.O | 18:29 |
| Nitrigaur | wxl, well, I mainly use Firefox on it, starting that one up (the same version!) on both 15.10 took almost 1.5 times as long on 16.04, while it felt snappy on 15.10. I can't see any major memory leaks or detect increased swap usage though. | 18:31 |
| wxl | Nitrigaur: could be a change in firefox, perhaps. | 18:32 |
| wxl | oh wait you said same version | 18:32 |
| wxl | do you have any problems with any other apps? | 18:33 |
| Nitrigaur | wxl, yes indeed, I did. | 18:33 |
| wxl | Nitrigaur: such as? all of them? | 18:33 |
| Nitrigaur | wxl, lightweight apps like Gnumeric and Abiword also felt much slower and the right mouse button emulation using two fingers on the touchpad hardly works at all. | 18:35 |
| wxl | Nitrigaur: i'm asking for a measurable difference, not necessarily feeling | 18:35 |
| Nitrigaur | wxl, yes, that is a problem, as I have "upgraded" my old 15.10 install to 16.04, so I can't compare them side-by-side anymore. | 18:36 |
| wxl | Nitrigaur: then it will certainly be difficult to make any sort of comparison. i certainly have noticed anything similar. the kernel is a different version. perhaps some kernel driver has changed? you might want to check your syslog/dmesg/Xorg logs for anything telling | 18:37 |
| wxl | s/have/haven\'t/ | 18:38 |
| Nitrigaur | wxl, Thanks for the correction there but I understood it from the rest of your statement | 18:38 |
| wxl | Nitrigaur: i'm thinking given that you have an intel mac, driver changes are most likely the case. we have a relatively small number of mac users and i'd say an even smaller proportion of them are intel users. that being said, that may be why i have not heard of a similar problem. | 18:39 |
| wxl | Nitrigaur: i've never tried to run an old kernel on a supported install, but that might be something to try first. | 18:40 |
| Nitrigaur | That could be it. A regression in a hardware driver, perhaps tied to the harddisk control. I'll browse the dmesg for any errors/ warnings. | 18:41 |
| wxl | Nitrigaur: if you need help diagnosing, feel free to stop on by. also with it not necessarily being a lubuntu-specific issue, #ubuntu may be able to help, too | 18:42 |
| wxl | Nitrigaur: you also might try the #ubuntu-kernel channel but afaik that's mostly for development rather than support | 18:43 |
| wxl | still i'm sure there are friendly folks there :) | 18:43 |
| Nitrigaur | wxl, thank you for all the useful hints. I am well known on the #ubuntu channel and I had quite few friendly chats there. | 18:44 |
| Nitrigaur | quite >a< few friendly chats ... | 18:44 |
| wxl | i gathered that, too XD | 18:44 |
| Nitrigaur | One very postive thing about the new version would be the IME support, straight after upgrading I could type Japanese in my favourite input predictor Anthy :-) | 18:48 |
| wxl | ah yes, anthy is good :) | 18:48 |
| Nitrigaur | There are a few kanji missing from the set available to me while on MacOSX, but generally it's impressive. | 18:49 |
| wxl | being a native english speaker, i'm a little unaware of the processes involved in fixing it, but feel free to file a bug | 18:50 |
| Nitrigaur | wxl, my native language is Dutch, but I'm learning Japanese. That's why I run into these things. | 18:51 |
| circ-user-i2ztY | hi there, I'm having troubles starting or stopping or restarting smbd service | 19:15 |
| circ-user-i2ztY | it's says unknown instance and my shares aren't showing | 19:15 |
| circ-user-i2ztY | help is much appreciated :( | 19:16 |
| circ-user-i2ztY | google doesn't serve any solutions atm | 19:16 |
| wxl | circ-user-i2ztY: if it's a registered service, it should be listed among 'service --status-all' | 19:17 |
| wxl | circ-user-i2ztY: my guess is it would be listed as samba | 19:17 |
| circ-user-i2ztY | [ + ] smbd | 19:17 |
| circ-user-i2ztY | and samba | 19:17 |
| circ-user-i2ztY | it was working fine before i did my updates and rebooted | 19:18 |
| wxl | well if smbd fails, try samba :) | 19:18 |
| wxl | actually looking at this a little deeper, samba should start both smbd and nmbd | 19:18 |
| wxl | so yeah use samba | 19:18 |
| circ-user-i2ztY | i just did | 19:19 |
| circ-user-i2ztY | and it says "stop: Unknown instance:" | 19:20 |
| circ-user-i2ztY | when i try to restart it | 19:20 |
| wxl | circ-user-i2ztY: so why don't you 'start' it? | 19:20 |
| circ-user-i2ztY | root@boxcenter:~# service samba status nmbd start/running smbd stop/waiting | 19:21 |
| wxl | stop both of them then start samba | 19:21 |
| circ-user-i2ztY | root@boxcenter:~# service smbd stop stop: Unknown instance: | 19:22 |
| wxl | well yeah it's already stopped as you have shown | 19:22 |
| wxl | " | 19:23 |
| wxl | unknown instance" means "i can't find the process id" | 19:23 |
| wxl | and if it's stopped (not running), it doesn't have a process id | 19:23 |
| circ-user-i2ztY | I can't understand why it would fail to start again after a reboot | 19:23 |
| circ-user-i2ztY | when all i did was apt-get update / upgrade | 19:24 |
| wxl | you'd need to check the logs for that | 19:24 |
| circ-user-i2ztY | what log should i check? /var/log/samba/smbd.log doesn't show much | 19:25 |
| wxl | i'd probably start with syslog or dmesg | 19:25 |
| wxl | before i did that, though, i'd make sure that: | 19:25 |
| wxl | 1. i can start it manually | 19:25 |
| wxl | 2. it fails upon subsequent reboots | 19:25 |
| circ-user-i2ztY | i can't start it manually :(µ | 19:26 |
| wxl | so you should be doing this: | 19:27 |
| circ-user-i2ztY | May 18 21:20:48 boxcenter kernel: [ 2772.805517] init: smbd respawning too fast, stopped | 19:27 |
| wxl | sudo service samba stop | 19:27 |
| wxl | sudo service smbd stop | 19:27 |
| wxl | sudo service nmbd stop | 19:27 |
| wxl | sudo service samba start | 19:27 |
| wxl | if that fails, then follow the first three steps and then: | 19:27 |
| wxl | sudo service smbd start | 19:27 |
| wxl | sudo service nmbd start | 19:27 |
| wxl | and see if that doesn't work | 19:27 |
| circ-user-i2ztY | http://www.linuxquestions.org/questions/showthread.php?p=5533166#post5533166 i found someone with the same prob | 19:33 |
| circ-user-i2ztY | haven't found a solution yet though | 19:33 |
| wxl | did you do the above? | 19:33 |
| circ-user-i2ztY | i did | 19:33 |
| circ-user-i2ztY | but it doesn't stop | 19:33 |
| circ-user-i2ztY | keeps saying unkown instance | 19:33 |
| wxl | it will say unknown instance every single time you say stop | 19:34 |
| circ-user-i2ztY | and it says it starts, but when i look at the processes, it doesn't show | 19:34 |
| circ-user-i2ztY | it didn't before the update though | 19:34 |
| wxl | what do you mean look at the process? | 19:34 |
| circ-user-i2ztY | well | 19:34 |
| circ-user-i2ztY | i've commented out the security line in my smb.conf and how it's working again :) | 19:35 |
| circ-user-i2ztY | like they said on the forum | 19:35 |
| wxl | at the end of those sets of commands you should be able to do sudo service {smbd,nmbd} status and it should tell you a pid | 19:35 |
| wxl | well there ya go | 19:35 |
| circ-user-i2ztY | thanks for the help man | 19:36 |
| wxl | yep, fwiw :/ :) | 19:36 |
| circ-user-i2ztY | (l)ubuntu always provides for random surprises when you upgrade stuff :p | 19:36 |
| wxl | everyone provides random surprises | 19:37 |
| wxl | even freebsd | 19:37 |
| wxl | package maintainers have to rely on certain assumptions and criteria, some of which don't apply to every situation | 19:37 |
| circ-user-i2ztY | ah, don't have experience with bsd | 19:41 |
| circ-user-i2ztY | i only know a little linux | 19:41 |
| circ-user-i2ztY | very basic | 19:41 |
| circ-user-i2ztY | just enough to set up what i need , network shares and such | 19:41 |
| wxl | bsd is pretty rock solid for servers. it's the core of a lot of embedded devices as well | 19:42 |
| wxl | it tends to be stable to a fault | 19:42 |
| wxl | but still there are surprises | 19:42 |
| circ-user-i2ztY | might give freebsd a try when i rebuilt or change my setup at home | 20:37 |
| wxl | it's a whole different ball of wax. it is CERTAINLY not very user friendly. i would not recommend it for a desktop. | 20:37 |
| circ-user-i2ztY | i wouldn't use it for a desktop | 20:37 |
| circ-user-i2ztY | but more like a bit of powerful machine to run different server's under vm's | 20:38 |
| circ-user-i2ztY | i usually use debian , but getting the latest kodi to work under debian is a bit of a pain | 20:39 |
| circ-user-i2ztY | my server is also my mediacenter , for now | 20:40 |
| wxl | yeah well usually freebsd is terrible when it comes to the latest and greatest | 20:40 |
| circ-user-i2ztY | till i have some more money to blow i suppose :) | 20:40 |
| wxl | it's also, in general, terrible for support for newer hardware | 20:40 |
| wxl | like i said, stable to a fault | 20:40 |
| circ-user-i2ztY | probably runs good enough in a virtual machine | 20:40 |
| circ-user-i2ztY | was thinking of going for proxmox with all kind of vm servers | 20:41 |
| wxl | probably, as long as you aren't trying to maximize graphics too much on newer hardware | 20:41 |
| wxl | like i'm not sure what 3D acceleration is like | 20:41 |
| circ-user-i2ztY | meh, i still use windows for my desktop ;) | 20:42 |
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