[04:47] <n-iCe> hi
[04:51] <akis> I faced some issues during 16.04 installation. Anyone has already installed 16.04?
[04:53] <elky> explain the issues and someone will answer if they can
[04:54] <n-iCe> hi
[04:54] <n-iCe> akis: a lot of people
[04:58] <akis> n-iCe: hi. The 'unsafe-swap-space' bug since 12.04 is still here. i try to override it following this http://askubuntu.com/questions/393418/unsafe-swap-space-detected but i cannot open any terminal to give the command sudo swapoff -all. There is a GUI option to open a LXterminal but there is no prompt line to enter the command. Any help?
[04:59] <n-iCe> ok
[04:59] <n-iCe> change tty
[04:59] <n-iCe> and use the console
[05:06] <akis> n-iCe: how can i do that?
[05:07] <akis> n-iCe: do you mean change desktop?
[05:08] <akis> n-iCe: i tried this http://unix.stackexchange.com/questions/167386/how-to-switch-between-tty-and-xorg-session but doesnt accepti alt+ctrl+F1 , F2 etc
[05:11] <akis> n-iCe: i tried this http://unix.stackexchange.com/questions/167386/how-to-switch-between-tty-and-xorg-session but doesnt accepti alt+ctrl+F1 , F2 etc
[05:27] <n-iCe> 's back
[05:30] <akis> n-iCe: i tried this http://unix.stackexchange.com/questions/167386/how-to-switch-between-tty-and-xorg-session but doesnt accepti alt+ctrl+F1 , F2 etc
[05:32] <n-iCe> it should
[05:32] <n-iCe> I think mine does.
[05:33] <n-iCe> Any way, why are you gettnig that error?
[05:33] <n-iCe> Did not read, power went off.
[05:38] <akis> first the 16.04 cannot be tried without installation. Hungs. So i tried the installation option. But if i choose the fully disk encryption i am getting the 'unsafe-swap-space' message (old bug). And i cannot override it following user's instructions.
[16:17] <n-iCe> hi
[16:58] <mohsen_1> Hi
[16:58] <mohsen_1> Does lubuntu have a  composite manager by default
[16:58] <mohsen_1> ?
[17:03] <krytarik> mohsen_1: Nope.
[17:03] <mohsen_1> And the pause in video play back is because of that?
[17:04] <mohsen_1> I have a fresh install of lubuntu.
[17:06] <krytarik> mohsen_1: No, it's actually the other way around - using a compositing manager *increases* the chance of something like that.
[17:07] <mohsen_1> But I the exact problem on another distro(that didn't have a composite manager by default), and the problem disappeared when I installed a composite manager.
[17:08] <krytarik> Well, you can try of course.
[17:31] <n-iCe> https://events.google.com/io2016/
[17:35] <krytarik> n-iCe: Why pasting this here?
[17:36] <n-iCe> so you to watch
[18:12] <syntax_> Hi. I was wondering if someone would be able to help me with a problem that I have encountered trying to install wine which, after googling, I have not been able to resolve.
[18:13] <syntax_> I've followed the install instructions on the Wine website but got this output: https://pastee.org/whqs4 after running: "sudo apt-get install --install-recommends winehq-devel"
[18:14] <syntax_> Wine webpage for reference: https://wiki.winehq.org/Ubuntu
[18:28] <Nitrigaur> I have installed Lubuntu 16.04 and it feels much slower than it's predecessor 15.10 on the same system: Mac 2.1 @2.2GHz Core 2 Duo, using 4GB of RAM. Any idea what might cause this?
[18:29] <wxl> Nitrigaur: nothing stands out. how did you measure the difference?
[18:29] <n-iCe> o.O
[18:31] <Nitrigaur> wxl, well,  I mainly use Firefox on it, starting that one up (the same version!) on both 15.10 took almost 1.5 times as long on 16.04, while it felt snappy on 15.10. I can't see any major memory leaks or detect increased swap usage though.
[18:32] <wxl> Nitrigaur: could be a change in firefox, perhaps.
[18:32] <wxl> oh wait you said same version
[18:33] <wxl> do you have any problems with any other apps?
[18:33] <Nitrigaur> wxl, yes indeed, I did.
[18:33] <wxl> Nitrigaur: such as? all of them?
[18:35] <Nitrigaur> wxl, lightweight apps like Gnumeric and Abiword also felt much slower and the right mouse button emulation using two fingers on the touchpad hardly works at all.
[18:35] <wxl> Nitrigaur: i'm asking for a measurable difference, not necessarily feeling
[18:36] <Nitrigaur> wxl, yes, that is a problem, as I have "upgraded" my old 15.10 install to 16.04, so I can't compare them side-by-side anymore.
[18:37] <wxl> Nitrigaur: then it will certainly be difficult to make any sort of comparison. i certainly have noticed anything similar. the kernel is a different version. perhaps some kernel driver has changed? you might want to check your syslog/dmesg/Xorg logs for anything telling
[18:38] <wxl> s/have/haven\'t/
[18:38] <Nitrigaur> wxl, Thanks for the correction there but I understood it from the rest of your statement
[18:39] <wxl> Nitrigaur: i'm thinking given that you have an intel mac, driver changes are most likely the case. we have a relatively small number of mac users and i'd say an even smaller proportion of them are intel users. that being said, that may be why i have not heard of a similar problem.
[18:40] <wxl> Nitrigaur: i've never tried to run an old kernel on a supported install, but that might be something to try first.
[18:41] <Nitrigaur> That could be it. A regression in a hardware driver, perhaps tied to the harddisk control. I'll browse the dmesg  for any errors/ warnings.
[18:42] <wxl> Nitrigaur: if you need help diagnosing, feel free to stop on by. also with it not necessarily being a lubuntu-specific issue, #ubuntu may be able to help, too
[18:43] <wxl> Nitrigaur: you also might try the #ubuntu-kernel channel but afaik that's mostly for development rather than support
[18:43] <wxl> still i'm sure there are friendly folks there :)
[18:44] <Nitrigaur> wxl, thank you for all the useful hints. I am well known on the #ubuntu channel and I had quite few friendly chats there.
[18:44] <Nitrigaur> quite >a< few friendly chats ...
[18:44] <wxl> i gathered that, too XD
[18:48] <Nitrigaur> One very postive thing about the new version would be the IME support, straight after upgrading I could type Japanese in my favourite input predictor Anthy :-)
[18:48] <wxl> ah yes, anthy is good :)
[18:49] <Nitrigaur> There are a few kanji missing from the set available to me while on MacOSX, but generally it's impressive.
[18:50] <wxl> being a native english speaker, i'm a little unaware of the processes involved in fixing it, but feel free to file a bug
[18:51] <Nitrigaur> wxl, my native language is Dutch, but I'm learning Japanese. That's why I run into these things.
[19:15] <circ-user-i2ztY> hi there, I'm having troubles starting or stopping or restarting smbd service
[19:15] <circ-user-i2ztY> it's says unknown instance and my shares aren't showing
[19:16] <circ-user-i2ztY> help is much appreciated :(
[19:16] <circ-user-i2ztY> google doesn't serve any solutions atm
[19:17] <wxl> circ-user-i2ztY: if it's a registered service, it should be listed among 'service --status-all'
[19:17] <wxl> circ-user-i2ztY: my guess is it would be listed as samba
[19:17] <circ-user-i2ztY> [ + ]  smbd
[19:17] <circ-user-i2ztY> and samba
[19:18] <circ-user-i2ztY> it was working fine before i did my updates and rebooted
[19:18] <wxl> well if smbd fails, try samba :)
[19:18] <wxl> actually looking at this a little deeper, samba should start both smbd and nmbd
[19:18] <wxl> so yeah use samba
[19:19] <circ-user-i2ztY> i just did
[19:20] <circ-user-i2ztY> and it says "stop: Unknown instance:"
[19:20] <circ-user-i2ztY> when i try to restart it
[19:20] <wxl> circ-user-i2ztY: so why don't you 'start' it?
[19:21] <circ-user-i2ztY> root@boxcenter:~# service samba status nmbd start/running smbd stop/waiting
[19:21] <wxl> stop both of them then start samba
[19:22] <circ-user-i2ztY> root@boxcenter:~# service smbd stop stop: Unknown instance:
[19:22] <wxl> well yeah it's already stopped as you have shown
[19:23] <wxl> "
[19:23] <wxl> unknown instance" means "i can't find the process id"
[19:23] <wxl> and if it's stopped (not running), it doesn't have a process id
[19:23] <circ-user-i2ztY> I can't understand why it would fail to start again after a reboot
[19:24] <circ-user-i2ztY> when all i did was apt-get update / upgrade
[19:24] <wxl> you'd need to check the logs for that
[19:25] <circ-user-i2ztY> what log should i check? /var/log/samba/smbd.log doesn't show much
[19:25] <wxl> i'd probably start with syslog or dmesg
[19:25] <wxl> before i did that, though, i'd make sure that:
[19:25] <wxl>  1. i can start it manually
[19:25] <wxl>  2. it fails upon subsequent reboots
[19:26] <circ-user-i2ztY> i can't start it manually :(µ
[19:27] <wxl> so you should be doing this:
[19:27] <circ-user-i2ztY> May 18 21:20:48 boxcenter kernel: [ 2772.805517] init: smbd respawning too fast, stopped
[19:27] <wxl> sudo service samba stop
[19:27] <wxl> sudo service smbd stop
[19:27] <wxl> sudo service nmbd stop
[19:27] <wxl> sudo service samba start
[19:27] <wxl> if that fails, then follow the first three steps and then:
[19:27] <wxl> sudo service smbd start
[19:27] <wxl> sudo service nmbd start
[19:27] <wxl> and see if that doesn't work
[19:33] <circ-user-i2ztY> http://www.linuxquestions.org/questions/showthread.php?p=5533166#post5533166 i found someone with the same prob
[19:33] <circ-user-i2ztY> haven't found a solution yet though
[19:33] <wxl> did you do the above?
[19:33] <circ-user-i2ztY> i did
[19:33] <circ-user-i2ztY> but it doesn't stop
[19:33] <circ-user-i2ztY> keeps saying unkown instance
[19:34] <wxl> it will say unknown instance every single time you say stop
[19:34] <circ-user-i2ztY> and it says it starts, but when i look at the processes, it doesn't show
[19:34] <circ-user-i2ztY> it didn't before the update though
[19:34] <wxl> what do you mean look at the process?
[19:34] <circ-user-i2ztY> well
[19:35] <circ-user-i2ztY> i've commented out the security line in my smb.conf and how it's working again :)
[19:35] <circ-user-i2ztY> like they said on the forum
[19:35] <wxl> at the end of those sets of commands you should be able to do sudo service {smbd,nmbd} status and it should tell you a pid
[19:35] <wxl> well there ya go
[19:36] <circ-user-i2ztY> thanks for the help man
[19:36] <wxl> yep, fwiw :/ :)
[19:36] <circ-user-i2ztY> (l)ubuntu always provides for random surprises when you upgrade stuff :p
[19:37] <wxl> everyone provides random surprises
[19:37] <wxl> even freebsd
[19:37] <wxl> package maintainers have to rely on certain assumptions and criteria, some of which don't apply to every situation
[19:41] <circ-user-i2ztY> ah, don't have experience with bsd
[19:41] <circ-user-i2ztY> i only know a little linux
[19:41] <circ-user-i2ztY> very basic
[19:41] <circ-user-i2ztY> just enough to set up what i need , network shares and such
[19:42] <wxl> bsd is pretty rock solid for servers. it's the core of a lot of embedded devices as well
[19:42] <wxl> it tends to be stable to a fault
[19:42] <wxl> but still there are surprises
[20:37] <circ-user-i2ztY> might give freebsd a try when i rebuilt or change my setup at home
[20:37] <wxl> it's a whole different ball of wax. it is CERTAINLY not very user friendly. i would not recommend it for a desktop.
[20:37] <circ-user-i2ztY> i wouldn't use it for a desktop
[20:38] <circ-user-i2ztY> but more like a bit of powerful machine to run different server's under vm's
[20:39] <circ-user-i2ztY> i usually use debian , but getting the latest kodi to work under debian is a bit of a pain
[20:40] <circ-user-i2ztY> my  server is also my mediacenter , for now
[20:40] <wxl> yeah well usually freebsd is terrible when it comes to the latest and greatest
[20:40] <circ-user-i2ztY> till i have some more money to blow i suppose :)
[20:40] <wxl> it's also, in general, terrible for support for newer hardware
[20:40] <wxl> like i said, stable to a fault
[20:40] <circ-user-i2ztY> probably runs good enough in a virtual machine
[20:41] <circ-user-i2ztY> was thinking of going for proxmox with all kind of vm servers
[20:41] <wxl> probably, as long as you aren't trying to maximize graphics too much on newer hardware
[20:41] <wxl> like i'm not sure what 3D acceleration is like
[20:42] <circ-user-i2ztY> meh, i still use windows for my desktop ;)