[00:08] fifty-sevenC, however....... it might not be the indicator applet but the volume control program the indicator applet points to [00:08] which is that? i cant see it now [00:08] it only happens to that one [00:08] skype diodon etc runs flawless in the indicator applet [00:38] Skype doesnt run after you exit it right? [03:47] hello is anyone available , I have a problem with ubuntu mate 16.04 detecting my monitor dpi wrong , I have super tiny fonts , I have searched and the help i have found is for other distros , any advice other than changing the font sizes manually which looks ugly ? [03:50] i found this , but i dont see options in with the fonts to change the dpi https://wiki.ubuntu.com/X/Troubleshooting/HugeFonts#Problem:__Looks_ugly_without_96_dpi [03:50] also thats just for ubuntu [04:21] i did that command as it said in the link to see what X thinks my dpi should be and i got xdpyinfo | egrep 'dimensions|resolution' [04:21] dimensions: 1920x1080 pixels (508x286 millimeters) [04:21] resolution: 96x96 dots per inch [04:55] ?? === huhlig_ is now known as huhlig [07:55] if i install python-pip and install a package via pip, then will "apt-get upgrade update that package in future? [07:57] No [07:58] oh okay [08:04] join #madrid [08:04] hello [08:18] hey === rw is now known as Guest11400 [11:47] Hi :) [11:48] hi [12:03] Can I ask for some information? [12:04] hi matteo__ [12:04] ask away [12:08] I'm running for the first time Ubuntu Mate in a VM Machine trying to understand how is it. Until now I'm loving it. I've changed window manager to compiz, I like the animation but everything runs very slow and laggy. It depends only on VM? [12:09] Compiz requires 3d acceleration [12:09] Which means you need it in your host, your virtual machine must support it, it has to be enabled and guest additions/tools have to be installed in the guest. [12:10] What is your host OS? [12:10] And do you have 3d acceleration in it? [12:10] Maybe I forgot 3d acceleration [12:11] My host OS is Debian, and I've installed the guest addictions [12:11] What VM product are you using? [12:11] Virtualbox? [12:11] Yes [12:12] Shutdown the VM. Change the settings -> video -> enable 3d checkbox [12:12] turn the VM back on [12:12] You have to enable it on a per VM basis. It is not on by default I believe [12:13] So if you make another you have to turn it back on again. [12:13] Also there's Compton as a WM option [12:13] Less flashy than Compiz [12:13] But still does the useful stuff, such as Vsync for tear-free video playback [12:13] ouroumov_, any 3d will be laggy if 3d support is not enabled. [12:14] 57c, I get it, just mentioning it because he's trying out Ubuntu MATE. :) [12:14] Thank you :) [12:14] I need to get around to filing a bug report for that mate-indicator-applet crash [12:14] Anyways [12:15] I should install VB on my laptop. [12:16] Docker seems to be a very popular and suitable replacement though [12:16] cgroup ++ [12:17] ouroumov_, I have an interview tomorrow for a Linux Help Desk position. :) I can't wait. [12:18] You're gonna ace it :o [12:18] 57c: what company? [12:19] Not sure, it is a direct hire through Robert Half. [12:20] But I was able to narrow it down considerably. "new" US startup section of a swedish company in a specific city not known for tech making open source network monitoring products. [14:41] hello [14:44] how is everyone today? [14:50] Pretty good [14:50] My unemployement is at an end. lol [15:04] Just curious. Does anyone know how to donate to the project as a business to claim taxes? Is Mate Team an NGO? [15:07] Hmm [15:10] On Patreon it says that the company needs to be a not-for-profit, but I can't find this information on MATE website. [15:10] I'm looking for some email info [15:10] Thanks:) [15:13] Do you have twitter? [15:13] No [15:13] Facebook? [15:15] Yes [15:15] https://www.facebook.com/UbuntuMATEedition/ [15:17] Ok, that was kind of obvious:) I don't use social media much. You think they will reply on facebook? [15:17] I think so [15:17] Alright! Thanks:) [15:28] he could have also waited for a while for flexiondotorg to respond. [15:29] Must have been the end of their workday. [15:29] I hate XML. [15:29] XML is fun! [15:29] Ha ha [15:29] Death to XML. [15:30] All hail Json. [15:30] Invalid XML character detected [16:48] hrmf ... i should have installed linux on all my fam business computers except one program there wont run under linux .. axiafrakt ... just sent them a semi-grumpy email and asked when they will get a solution for linux :/ [16:49] its to print out labels and send packages .. this one lousy program [16:49] Does it work through Wine? [16:49] no... .net app .. [16:49] several have tried [16:49] .net should work with mono then [16:49] mono? [16:49] well ive googled treads about it.. it doesnt work [16:50] .net for Linux [16:50] hmmm [16:50] TheMarius: ah, we have a problem with our parcel courier service like that [16:50] TheMarius: their website requires a java applet to print labels [16:51] it doesn't work in anything newer than IE7 [16:51] well ... still lousy they dont make it avaliable for linux .. it would simplify running these machines alot since compaly is full of computer n00bs installing toolbars and crap by accident [16:51] TheMarius: apparently you can lock all that stuff down in Windows [16:51] i have to aid them all the time with irrelevant stuff [16:51] Java applet requires IE? Waaaah? Java a[[;et using ActiveX? What kind of abomination? [16:51] linux would simplify it for me [16:52] fifty-sevenC: [16:52] have it on 2 irrelevant computers my dad use, he likes it [16:52] and i made sure they just use open source software in win [16:52] and it works fine [16:53] so its just about changing platform [16:53] fifty-sevenC: firefox no longer supports the website and chromium works with the website but doesn't do java any more [16:53] You can whitelist the java applet for the website [16:53] im honestly getting sick of nagdows [16:54] Huh, appears the chrome devs might have gotten rid of the enterprise workaround for the java applet [16:55] That is hardcore. Wow [16:55] please update flash and yes we'll install crapafee antivirus with it without asking you, welcome to ask toolbar, your computer needs to be upgraded, offer: free 1 year subscription to office 365 .... idk how much of this junk i have to sort out on windows .. i spend hours each week with this [16:55] Google is getting rid of flash soon too [16:57] this is why id like linux ... except for a bug here i bet is related to my weird hardware (the business computers are all laptop of common brands) its hazzle free [16:58] the business computers are all sluggish now with weird problems [17:02] libreoffice is whats used mostly + axia freight + replying on emails + printing [17:03] and axia is the key to get this changed over.. so im hoping they listen [17:03] would ease things alot for several businesses in this country [17:03] reg. migrating to linux [17:03] small windows programs like this is whats stopping it [17:04] bet im not the only one [17:06] hi [17:07] mono-4.0-service .. is that the package for mono btw? [17:08] or mono-complete ? [17:09] mono-complete is everything [17:09] do i need it? [17:09] You need to figure out which .net version the program runs on [17:09] hi kiik [17:09] Hi kiik [17:09] axia use net 4.0 [17:10] It should be supported in mono then [17:10] http://www.mono-project.com/docs/about-mono/compatibility/ === lars_ is now known as Guest54239 [17:13] I hate mono too [17:13] Looks like mono-complete is what you will need [17:14] Almost as much as XML [17:16] mono-runtime ... mono-complete ... ? [17:16] mono complete [17:16] k [17:16] not sure if the labelprinters are supported either [17:16] Enjoy your 170+ new root-certificates [17:16] lol [17:17] Don't hate mono. Hate .net with its 50 billion versions that have to be supported [17:17] Does it makes you install a boatload of root certs too? [17:17] http://www.hsprinter.com/Uploads/55a0c5a2209bf.jpg <-- need to know if this works too .. have then connected together with a regular printer [17:18] software will have to know which goes where [17:18] and this aint connected to it [17:18] I have sound issues on a clean install of 16.04, any ideas? More details here: https://gist.github.com/lhz/51e6e5da6cd1922e9129e250839785ee [17:18] If it connects via USB you could probably find a driver for it somewhere or maybe the .net app will interface it directly and it not need one. [17:19] think i'll wait and betatest this on my dads dedicated bank linux laptop [17:20] lhz, I'm not familiar with coax sound. [17:20] lhz, I think it is using the wrong driver. Can you check? [17:21] The gigabyte page says it uses Realtek but your gist says Intel [17:22] fifty-sevenC: strange that it works except for the occasional dropout? [17:23] lhz: does it work when you're not using optical out? [17:23] well thanks guys [17:23] *switching to surface pro and win* :/ [17:24] Sorry TheMarius. Hopefully your vendors will catch up and stop holding you to windows one day. [17:25] gordonjcp: don't think I have any other kind of cable to check here at the moment, but will try. [17:26] lhz, cat /proc/asound/card0/codec#0 | grep Codec [17:26] run that [17:26] What does it spit out? [17:28] fifty-sevenC: https://gist.github.com/anonymous/fe3711ba3792968cc15be81767bd031e [17:29] TheMarius, can't you reserve one lousy machine for the label-printing task? [17:29] And have UM on the others? [17:31] Ok, your card0 is your HDMI? Weird. [17:31] fifty-sevenC: coax is just spdif with rca connector btw [17:31] lhz, cat /proc/asound/cards [17:33] fifty-sevenC: added as comment to https://gist.github.com/lhz/51e6e5da6cd1922e9129e250839785ee [17:34] Ok, you're plugging into the PCH? [17:34] if that is the s/pdif then yes [17:35] lhz, cat /proc/asound/card0/codec#1 | grep Codec [17:35] Woops I did that wrong [17:35] lhz, cat /proc/asound/card1/codec#0 | grep Codec [17:36] cat /proc/asound/card1/codec#2 | grep Codec => Codec: Realtek ALC892 [17:36] Looks like you have the correct codecs. [17:38] When not playing any sound, I hear a slight pop in my speakers every time the pulseaudio process is being supervised [17:40] kill rkit [17:41] rtkit [17:42] fifty-sevenC: tried that, but it just respawns and resumes doing its supervising [17:42] sudo service rtkit-daemon stop [17:43] that's what I did. it stopped, but was started again automatically after a few seconds [17:43] Hmm. [17:44] i can try renaming the executable :) [17:44] well it seems rtkit is changing the process priority of your pupleaudio processes and causing pops when it does. ? [17:45] Don't rename it. [17:45] I don't know if anything other than pulseaudio uses it [17:47] renaming the exe and then stopping the rtkit daemon caused my chrome to segfault when I went to youtube to play a video [17:48] Yeah if it needed audio [17:48] rtkit is an on demand service [17:49] guess I need to find some way to stop it from changing priority of pulseaudio all the time then [17:50] Well, thing is it is supposed to change the priority of pulseaudio [17:51] But if you're saying everytime it does you get a pop then there is a problem [17:52] https://wiki.archlinux.org/index.php/PulseAudio/Troubleshooting#Glitches.2C_skips_or_crackling [17:52] Try those [17:56] fifty-sevenC: will have a look, thanks. [17:57] lhz, it has instructions to turn off the rtkit and on [18:09] fifty-sevenC: tried all of those now, but no change. [18:09] battery charge estimates are hilarious sometimes [18:10] hmm [18:13] so with rtkill disabled it still popped? [18:16] fifty-sevenC: didn't try that bit since there is no pulse-rt group existing [18:18] fifty-sevenC: for now I think I will try connecting my monitor audio output to my receiver and see how that goes. just need to find the right cable. [18:18] ok [18:26] Could it be a bad connection or wire? [18:27] doubtful, it works without a hitch in Windows 10 on the same computer [18:28] strange that it worked fine in beta but this started to happen immediately after I updated to release [18:28] wired ethernet? [18:28] or wired something else? [18:28] spdif [18:40] can't get any sound through the monitor either. think I'll try to install 15.10 just to confirm it works there. [18:40] through hdmi? [18:40] spdif [18:41] the monitor is connected through mini displayport [18:41] no sound at all now? [18:42] nope, I suspect a hdmi connection to the monitor is needed for sound, even though it does say hdmi/displayport in the sound hw settings dropdown./ [18:43] i'd prefer to get spdif to work though so I can keep it digital all the way to the receiver. [18:43] will check if spdif works without glitches in 15.10 like it did in 16.04-beta. [18:44] ok [18:54] yup, just booted 15.10 from usb and no sound issues [18:54] hmmm [18:55] cat /proc/asound/cards [18:56] looks identical (just different irq number) [18:59] Check the codecs? [18:59] dumping to file now and copying off to a different pc so I can compare with 16.04 [19:00] take your pulse audio config file too [19:07] too late, but can do some more diffing later [19:08] here's the codec diff: https://gist.github.com/lhz/06d808c34a96b590c52cf051f139a7fb [19:13] and the pa config diff? [19:13] /etc/pulse/default.pa only? [19:14] Yes [19:18] no difference, except for the tsched=0 that I tried to add in 16.04 but that didn't make a difference [19:18] hmm [19:19] well, the codec amp values are the only different things [19:19] check alsamixer ? [19:21] Digital category was also different [19:22] and some GenLevel added in 16.04 [19:22] I can't find the difference between Enabled and Enabled GenLevel [19:25] also try right click the volume and selecting sound preferences [19:25] Try different profiles [19:27] .z.z.z.z [19:27] there are only two for digital audio (with and without analog input), and they both have the issue. [19:27] :/ [19:27] I don't know what to do then [19:28] Wimpy is live on https://www.twitch.tv/linuxgamecast . [19:30] actually [19:30] Lets check something [19:30] RobLoach, thanks [19:31] well nevermind, no old version available in the repo [19:36] ok, I will stick to 15.10 for now on this pc. thanks for your help anyway, much appreciated. [19:37] Sorry [19:50] Hi ouroumov_ [19:50] Net trouble? [19:59] owrap [19:59] !ping [19:59] pong! [20:00] That can't be [20:00] ??? === ubuntu-mate is now known as leminsc8 [20:02] hello iam rely new on ubuntu mane [20:02] So OK, I just lost my internet connexion [20:02] Hi leminsc8 [20:03] Hi leminsc8 [20:05] i need help: [20:05] Rhythmbox fordert die Installation von Erweiterungen, um Dateien des folgenden Typs zu erstellen: ID3 tag muxer [20:06] hi tifty [20:07] I don't know German and the google translate seems a bit off. [20:07] http://imgur.com/zjpz3iX [20:07] lol [20:07] Great [20:07] The ISP who manages my wifi has the portal in HSTS [20:08] And, those dumbasses have an invalid cert [20:08] all captive portals will have an invalid cert [20:08] You can't pretend to be another domain and the cert be valid [20:08] But they're not supposed to be HSTS, or did I miss something? [20:09] i wanna add mp3 my musicdatabase from "Rhythmbox" the answer is i need "ID3 tag muxer" but i cant downloading with autoupade [20:09] It works in IE and 'it's secure' so companies impliment it without thinking [20:09] I can't believe this [20:09] Please tell me I don't need a machine with IE so I can get the access back [20:09] I'm gonna murder someone [20:10] Installing Google Chrome now, maybe there will be an option to disregard HSTS, firefox won't let me do it [20:10] leminsc8, sudo apt-get install gstreamer1.0-plugins-ugly [20:12] You will need to run that in a terminal [20:12] sry my english ar sad. you mean i need gstramer1.0? [20:12] ouroumov_, chrome won't let you do it [20:12] th plugin [20:12] shit [20:12] leminsc8, press ctrl+alt+t [20:13] leminsc8, in the terminal type sudo apt-get install gstreamer1.0-plugins-ugly [20:13] And I can't use Lynx because portal needs freaking Javascript [20:13] Ugh [20:13] Well try Chrome anyways [20:13] you might get a "Do it anyways" prompt [20:13] I'll try, but it takes a while to download over my phone [20:13] Ouch data fees [20:14] I'm in France so I don't have to worry about that [20:14] I have Google Fi, so I pay $10 per GB but I get refunded everything I don't use. [20:14] So on an average month it is cheaper than ATT or TMobile [20:14] Worse they can do is cap my bandwidth but It's slow anyway [20:14] done :-) [20:15] okay i will test it [20:15] Well damn, I'm sure I've missed all of Winpy's live by now [20:16] Wimpy's * [20:16] Hey ouroumov_ [20:16] http://superuser.com/questions/826232/how-to-bypass-the-secure-connection-failed-warning-in-firefox-33 [20:17] ubuntu-mate@ubuntu-mate:~$ sudo apt-get install gstreamer1.0-plugins-ugly [20:17] Paketlisten werden gelesen... Fertig [20:17] Abhängigkeitsbaum wird aufgebaut. [20:17] Statusinformationen werden eingelesen.... Fertig [20:17] The following additional packages will be installed: [20:17] gstreamer1.0-plugins-ugly-amr libmpg123-0 libopencore-amrnb0 [20:17] libopencore-amrwb0 libsidplay1v5 [20:17] Vorgeschlagene Pakete: [20:17] sidplay-base [20:17] Die folgenden NEUEN Pakete werden installiert: [20:17] gstreamer1.0-plugins-ugly gstreamer1.0-plugins-ugly-amr libmpg123-0 [20:17] libopencore-amrnb0 libopencore-amrwb0 libsidplay1v5 [20:17] 0 aktualisiert, 6 neu installiert, 0 zu entfernen und 103 nicht aktualisiert. [20:17] Es müssen 574 kB an Archiven heruntergeladen werden. [20:17] Nach dieser Operation werden 1.954 kB Plattenplatz zusätzlich benutzt. [20:17] Möchten Sie fortfahren? [J/n] j [20:17] Holen:1 http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu xenial/universe amd64 libopencore-amrnb0 amd64 0.1.3-2.1 [92,0 kB] [20:17] Holen:2 http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu xenial/universe amd64 libopencore-amrwb0 amd64 0.1.3-2.1 [45,8 kB] [20:17] leminsc8, use pastebin [20:18] Holen:3 http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu xenial/universe amd64 gstreamer1.0-plugins-ugly-amr amd64 1.8.0-1ubuntu1 [33,7 kB] [20:18] Holen:4 http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu xenial/universe amd64 libmpg123-0 amd64 1.22.4-1 [124 kB] [20:18] Holen:5 http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu xenial/universe amd64 libsidplay1v5 amd64 1.36.59-8 [63,6 kB] [20:18] Holen:6 http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu xenial/universe amd64 gstreamer1.0-plugins-ugly amd64 1.8.0-1ubuntu1 [215 kB] [20:18] Es wurden 574 kB in 0 s geholt (629 kB/s). [20:18] Vormals nicht ausgewähltes Paket libopencore-amrnb0:amd64 wird gewählt. [20:18] (Lese Datenbank ... 191211 Dateien und Verzeichnisse sind derzeit installiert.) [20:18] Vorbereitung zum Entpacken von .../libopencore-amrnb0_0.1.3-2.1_amd64.deb ... [20:18] Entpacken von libopencore-amrnb0:amd64 (0.1.3-2.1) ... [20:18] Vormals nicht ausgewähltes Paket libopencore-amrwb0:amd64 wird gewählt. [20:18] Vorbereitung zum Entpacken von .../libopencore-amrwb0_0.1.3-2.1_amd64.deb ... [20:18] Entpacken von libopencore-amrwb0:amd64 (0.1.3-2.1) ... [20:18] Vormals nicht ausgewähltes Paket gstreamer1.0-plugins-ugly-amr:amd64 wird gewählt. [20:18] Vorbereitung zum Entpacken von .../gstreamer1.0-plugins-ugly-amr_1.8.0-1ubuntu1_amd64.deb ... [20:18] Entpacken von gstreamer1.0-plugins-ugly-amr:amd64 (1.8.0-1ubuntu1) ... [20:18] Vormals nicht ausgewähltes Paket libmpg123-0:amd64 wird gewählt. [20:18] Funnily enough if I get that job I'm interviewing for tomorrow I'll have to learn Swedish and German. lol [20:18] Vorbereitung zum Entpacken von .../libmpg123-0_1.22.4-1_amd64.deb ... [20:18] Entpacken von libmpg123-0:amd64 (1.22.4-1) ... [20:18] Vormals nicht ausgewähltes Paket libsidplay1v5 wird gewählt. [20:18] Vorbereitung zum Entpacken von .../libsidplay1v5_1.36.59-8_amd64.deb ... [20:18] Entpacken von libsidplay1v5 (1.36.59-8) ... [20:18] Vormals nicht ausgewähltes Paket gstreamer1.0-plugins-ugly:amd64 wird gewählt. [20:18] Vorbereitung zum Entpacken von .../gstreamer1.0-plugins-ugly_1.8.0-1ubuntu1_amd64.deb ... [20:18] flood [20:18] Entpacken von gstreamer1.0-plugins-ugly:amd64 (1.8.0-1ubuntu1) ... [20:18] Trigger für libc-bin (2.23-0ubuntu3) werden verarbeitet ... [20:18] libopencore-amrnb0:amd64 (0.1.3-2.1) wird eingerichtet ... [20:18] libopencore-amrwb0:amd64 (0.1.3-2.1) wird eingerichtet ... [20:19] gstreamer1.0-plugins-ugly-amr:amd64 (1.8.0-1ubuntu1) wird eingerichtet ... [20:19] libmpg123-0:amd64 (1.22.4-1) wird eingerichtet ... [20:19] libsidplay1v5 (1.36.59-8) wird eingerichtet ... [20:19] gstreamer1.0-plugins-ugly:amd64 (1.8.0-1ubuntu1) wird eingerichtet ... [20:19] Trigger für libc-bin (2.23-0ubuntu3) werden verarbeitet ... [20:19] sry dudes... [20:19] this are only the code. [20:19] yes sry [20:19] :-) [20:19] okay fity but it's done? must i reboot system? or restart software? [20:19] How come ubottu did not quiet&ban him? [20:19] *fifty [20:19] Restart program [20:21] done <3 okay i see i must learn work with terminal ;-) [20:21] Ok so that wasn't the problem [20:22] Really? [20:23] what was all that? [20:23] thanks - see you [20:23] Appears he posted the german version of apt-get install into chat [20:23] leminsc8, you're welcome [20:23] :-) [20:24] i will test mate to upgrade form windows. dodayi start fromusb [20:24] windows10 lol [20:25] I hope you like it [20:27] i love it [20:27] but i must learn.. [20:27] ok... [20:28] I understand now. [20:28] What was it? [20:29] Well, form action="https://wireless.wifirst.net:8090/goform/HtmlLoginRequest" [20:29] The Port. [20:30] Blocked by firewall. [20:30] Ha [20:31] I guess that's one problem with Linux. When something hits the firewall there's no popup saying "That application wants to access the internet. Allow / Deny" [20:31] Could make one [20:32] It'd be cool, I'm not sure the amount of work involved though. [20:35] Actually it looks pretty trivial looking at it [20:35] tazercraft [20:35] The worst part is the iptables logs are stuffed in with kernel logs [20:36] fifty-sevenC, how do you link a packet with an application? [20:36] Just make a python script check the log file one a second. If something was blocked generate one of those indicator notifications saying it was blocked [20:37] fifty-sevenC, I guess that could be useful enough to detect something was blocked [20:37] And indeed, that would be easy to code [20:37] ouroumov, yeah just check for blocked outbound packets [20:38] But i'd be cooler if the application responsible for the traffic could be identified [20:38] I don't see a way immediately to tie the packet to the application [20:38] But I am sure there is a way somehow [20:38] But that would be more work. The 90% is just identifying and telling the user it was blocked [20:38] What was blocked could come later [20:39] For TCP streams that can be done using lsof, not on a per-packed basis but on a per-connection basis I think [20:39] MVP = base needed to be functional and used [20:39] ouroumov, if a packet was blocked would lsof be able to detect that? [20:39]