[00:31] <ziz15> can i install ubuntu touch on a device other than the official supported using the guide on ubuntu site?will it be somehow "safe"?thanks
[02:46] <ahoneybun> mm I hope tablets get some love in OTA12
[02:53] <ATDT911> I'd just like to have ubuntu on my pixel c
[06:47] <kaisoz> hi there
[10:33] <Mirv> mardy_: hi! I did largely automated fix for bug #1583079 including MP for ubuntu-system-settings-online-accounts https://code.launchpad.net/~timo-jyrinki/ubuntu-system-settings-online-accounts/stop_depending_on_transitional_packages
[10:33] <Mirv> (I noticed you had already assigned it to yourself)
[10:34] <Mirv> that bug is incomplete regarding affected packages, I only started with reverse dependencies with UITK. but it should be a good start.
[10:34] <mardy_> Mirv: ah, gret, then please go on :-D
[10:58] <RainyTues> http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/LG-Nexus-4-E960-16GB-Black-with-UBUNTU-installed-/131813780607
[11:19] <hight_def1> hi, does anyone know what is the support email for ubuntu store? i can't find it
[11:20] <hight_def1> there is a link to report a bug, but i don't want to report a bug, i need to ask some questions about private packages and payment
[11:31] <Jarlath> @bfiller I'm looking for info on this bug: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu-ux/+bug/1377996
[11:33] <Jarlath> I think a re-flash would relieve me of the issue but I'd rather stay with it if it will help QA/dev. Is it likely to be investigated in OTA-12 or 13?
[12:44] <Jarlath> @bfiller  ping!
[12:45] <bfiller> Jarlath: pong
[12:46] <Jarlath> @bfiller I'm looking for info on this bug: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu-ux/+bug/1377996
[12:46] <Jarlath> I think a re-flash would relieve me of the issue but I'd rather stay with it if it will help QA/dev. Is it likely to be investigated in OTA-12 or 13?
[12:47] <bfiller> Jarlath: looking
[12:47] <Jarlath> Although I realise now it was Pat McGowan I was speaking with and not yourself - apologies!
[12:48] <bfiller> Jarlath: so it looks like you provided the appropriate logs and I'll change the status as it's no longer incomplete. Will target it for ota-12. Sorry you are having this problem, I have not been seeing it
[12:49] <bfiller> Jarlath: are you tenleftfingers?
[12:50] <Jarlath> Correct, I'm tenleftfingers. And thank you.
[13:10] <bfiller> pmcgowan: Jarlath was asking about https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu-ux/+bug/1377996, was marked incomplete but I moved to new as he provided logs. Are we seeing this on any devices? https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu-ux/+bug/1377996
[13:11] <pmcgowan> looking
[13:16] <pmcgowan> bfiller, as I noted I have not seen other complaints, but the reporter is quite reliable
[13:16] <pmcgowan> worth a look but may not be able to repro
[13:17] <bfiller> Jarlath: which device are you seeing this on?
[13:17] <Jarlath> bfiller: E4.5 with OTA 11
[13:19] <pmcgowan> Jarlath, any specific steps to trigger it?
[13:19] <Jarlath> pmcgowan: It's 100% reproducible every time without fail.
[13:20] <pmcgowan> Jarlath, and you have only done updates, no side loading or anything? really sounds like your config is busted somehow
[13:20] <Jarlath> No side loading of any kind
[13:20] <Jarlath> I've kept it 'above board' for reporting purposes.
[13:20] <pmcgowan> indeed
[13:20] <pmcgowan> this is the only report of it I have seen
[13:21] <pmcgowan> hence I suspect somethig is busted on your device
[13:21] <Jarlath> So if it's from normal usage. Well, I'm happy to reflash if it's just me.
[13:21] <pmcgowan> but it would be good to find, although its terrbile for you
[13:22] <pmcgowan> Jarlath, let us look at the logs and come up with some ideas before flashing
[13:22] <pmcgowan> sory for the delay
[13:22] <Jarlath> pmcgowan: no problem, will do. Many thanks.
[13:30] <pmcgowan> Jarlath, when you say the tone dial icon what do you mean?
[13:32] <Jarlath> pmcgowan: looking
[13:33] <Jarlath> pmcgowan: I think I mean the icon that reveals the dial pad. It's not responsive. But no icon is so not sure why I zoned in on that particular one. I could make a demo video easily actually, that illustrates it 100%.
[13:34] <pmcgowan> Jarlath, you mean the one in the header area
[13:35] <pmcgowan> in the indicator bar showing active call?
[13:36] <pmcgowan> demo video would be good
[13:48] <Jarlath> pmcgowan: I'm talking about the ten-dot grid that appears when you make a call after the numbers go away. It lets you restore the dial pad rather than the current display for mute speaker etc. Video in progress :)
[13:49] <pmcgowan> ack
[14:19] <Jarlath> bfiller: pmcgowan: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kuxbRzV3jhc&feature=youtu.be
[14:28] <pmcgowan> Jarlath, very odd, thanks
[14:29] <Jarlath> pmcgowan: I did enable developer mode once ... but that's it AFAIK.
[14:29] <pmcgowan> yeah no reason that should happen
[14:33] <saavento> Is OTA11 out already?
[14:39] <Jarlath> saavento: it's in QA. Not released yet, nor expected until end of this month/beginning of next.
[14:39] <Jarlath> AFAIK
[14:40] <saavento> jarlath: Oks thx.
[16:33] <hasan> hi, how to access to ubuntu files on my xubuntu desktop!? means internal storage of phone
[16:33] <hasan> aquaris e4.5
[16:34] <lotuspsychje> plug your device in with usb?
[16:34] <hasan> yes, but “mount failed mtp device“
[16:35] <lotuspsychje> hasan: did you swipe your screen lock on your phone?
[16:35] <dobey> what version of xubuntu?
[16:35] <hasan> yes, Active Screen is running on ubuntu phone
[16:35] <lotuspsychje> weird
[16:35] <hasan> 14.04 LTD
[16:35] <hasan> LTS
[16:43] <pmcgowan> ah hes gone
[16:47] <hasan> I install mtp tool and just access to default folders in my ubuntu phone on xubuntu, how to access to share folder in desktop!?
[16:50] <dobey> pmcgowan: ^^ he's back :)
[16:51] <dobey> hasan: it should just work afaik, but i'm not sure how well the xubuntu file manager supports mtp
[16:51] <dobey> i thought it used gvfs and should just work, but maybe xubuntu is missing something. not sure
[16:53] <pmcgowan> hasan, I think its missing the device id perhaps
[16:57] <pmcgowan> check if its listed in /lib/udev/rules.d/69-libmtp.rules
[17:03] <hasan> still can't access to device!!
[17:12] <pmcgowan> hasan this is what I have
[17:12] <pmcgowan> # bq Krillin (MTP)
[17:12] <pmcgowan> ATTR{idVendor}=="2a47", ATTR{idProduct}=="2008", SYMLINK+="libmtp-%k", MODE="660", GROUP="audio", ENV{ID_MTP_DEVICE}="1", ENV{ID_MEDIA_PLAYER}="1"
[17:12] <pmcgowan> # bq Krillin (MTP+ADB)
[17:12] <pmcgowan> ATTR{idVendor}=="2a47", ATTR{idProduct}=="0c02", SYMLINK+="libmtp-%k", MODE="660", GROUP="audio", ENV{ID_MTP_DEVICE}="1", ENV{ID_MEDIA_PLAYER}="1"
[17:12] <pmcgowan> oh heck hes gone again
[17:41] <ogra_> hasan, did you notice that people are talking to you here ? you seem to drop off all the time
[17:43] <hasan> i'm so sorry i have some issue with chatter app in my phone
[17:43] <pmcgowan> last try
[17:44] <pmcgowan> hasan, http://pastebin.ubuntu.com/16497678/
[17:44] <pmcgowan> that needs to be in  /lib/udev/rules.d/69-libmtp.rules
[17:45] <hasan> thank you
[17:45] <hasan> i will check it
[17:45] <hasan> Chatter in aquaris is the best IRC but some time crashed
[17:47] <dobey> hasan: chatter is an app like any other. when it is not in the foreground it is stopped, and loses any network connections
[17:49] <hasan> no it is foreground but sometime when I want to type crashed
[17:49] <dobey> oh
[17:50] <hasan> my screen is active for try mtp...
[17:50] <hasan> I found 2 items in the libmtp rules file
[17:51] <hasan> bq devices
[18:04] <hasan> nope! does not work... gmtp and file manager show error during running
[21:03] <nhaines> Could anyone pastebin a custom ~/.local/share/libertine/ContainersConfig.json from a flo or frieza for me?
[21:05] <bregma> nhaines, what have you done?
[21:05] <nhaines> bregma: forgot to remove the symlink before updating.  :)
[21:06] <bregma> you could just copy the Puritine one and manually add stanzas for your custom containers
[21:07] <nhaines> bregma: I don't have a Puritine one.
[21:07] <nhaines> Although if someone does, I'll take that as well.
[21:10] <bregma> nhaines, do you need the Puritine entry or will any ContainersConfig.json do?
[21:10] <nhaines> bregma: any will do.
[21:14] <bregma> nhaines, here's mine from a test machine (no Puritine) if it's any help -- lxc on a flo or frieza is not supported but the rest might help http://paste.ubuntu.com/16500566/
[21:14] <nhaines> Thanks!  Not that I wasn't looking forward to digging through the frieza filesystem image but... I wasn't, lol.
[21:30] <nhaines> Hmm, nevermind.  It looks like the system update wiped ~/.config/libertine-container as well.
[21:31] <nhaines> I mean .cache
[21:31] <nhaines> So I guess I won't be using my tablet today after all.
[21:53] <bregma> nhaines, system updates shouldn't be wiping your data, that's scary
[21:53] <bregma> the containers are in ~/.cache/libertine-container
[21:54] <bregma> and their home directories are bindmounted from ~/.local/share/libertine-container/user-data/
[21:55] <nhaines> bregma: yes, but the error message is:
[21:55] <nhaines> phablet@ubuntu-phablet:~$ libertine-container-manager install-package -i puritine -p light-themes
[21:55] <nhaines> ERROR: ld.so: object 'libfakeroot-sysv.so' from LD_PRELOAD cannot be preloaded (cannot open shared object file): ignored.
[21:55] <nhaines> /usr/sbin/chroot: failed to get attributes of ‘/home/phablet/.cache/libertine-container/puritine/rootfs’: No such file or directory
[21:56] <bregma> nhaines, is there nothing under /home/phablet/.cache/libertine-container ?
[21:56] <nhaines> No.
[21:58] <bregma> huh.
[21:58] <Acou_Bass> i thought on the tablet the containers were under / not ~/
[21:59] <nhaines> Considering it took two hours to build the container and another hour to actually install four apps, I'm not very happy.
[22:00] <bregma> Acou_Bass, nope...  the Puritine container is because a click can not install into a user directory, but user-created containers are purely user data and can not go in /
[22:00] <Acou_Bass> ahhh right
[22:00] <bregma> nhaines, what kind of update did you do?  This has me worried....
[22:02] <nhaines> bregma: just a regular system update through System Settings.
[22:02] <bregma> I've done that plenty and not lost my containers, I wonder what's up
[22:03]  * bregma goes and updates a test phone just in case
[22:06] <nhaines> I'm happy to grab any logs or whatever before I wipe this tablet.
[22:10] <bregma> hmm, my test phone is pretty messed up -- don't remount your / partition read-write, kids
[22:10] <nhaines> I try to avoid it.  :)
[22:11] <bregma> my daily-use phone still has containers on it but I can't upgrade until OTA-11
[22:12] <bregma> nhaines, I don't think there's any logs to collect or anything, I'll have some people test through upgrades tomorrow to see if they can reproduce
[22:13] <nhaines> bregma: thanks.
[22:13] <nhaines> Now if I can just find a way to get the "Day" scope, I'll really be happy.  :)
[23:16] <Funmungus> Hello ogra_ are you listening?  I had some comments for my experience with the libertine-container-manager
[23:38] <muka> From my testing, it looks that browser does not load images, css and scripts over ssl when self-signed certificate is created.
[23:50] <nhaines> Hmm, I wonder if phablet-shell is confined.