[03:42] Morning everyone. [04:49] guten morgen meine herren peeps [04:55] oh my, early fly [05:02] rather misty here this morning, visibilty under 100 metres im sure [05:02] too cold to go pace it off [05:03] maybe even 50 metres [05:15] wb inetpro_ SubOracle [05:19] Môre oom [05:19] Raai waarmee is ek besig [05:19] hi mazal [05:19] se my man , raai is werk [05:19] Ondersoek Win 10 privacy settings [05:19] eish [05:19] Moet my 1 laptop by die werk upgrade [05:19] Geen keuse nie [05:19] sjoe [05:20] het jy ooit gedoen wat ek gese het lank terug [05:20] wag ek soek of ek dit nog het [05:20] http://scottiestech.info/2015/09/05/another-privacy-fix-this-time-for-windows-7-8-and-10/ [05:21] Wat gedoen ? [05:21] ^^ [05:21] Oh nee , het mos nog nie Win 10 gebruik nie [05:21] Gaan nou vir die eerste keer [05:21] lees wat se daai ou [05:21] Ek het 'n goeie berig gekry http://www.techradar.com/news/software/operating-systems/the-windows-10-privacy-settings-you-need-to-change-right-now-1301257 [05:22] Redelike volledige berig vir dit [05:22] sjoe [05:22] 11 bladsye lank lol [05:27] Môre mazal Kilos, almal [05:28] hi paddatrapper i have all the info on that browser [05:28] https://github.com/conformal/xombrero/wiki [05:30] Cool. I like the vim keybindings [05:32] i am going to try memorise what keys to use for what i need and use it [05:32] Though it doesn't look like it can sync my settings, history, etc across devices [05:33] when you not stufying and bored play with it [05:33] studying [05:33] even my eyes are getting cold [05:33] May give it a try, even if only to find bugs, etc and contribute to it. Been looking for a solid C language project to get my hands dirty with [05:34] It's raining here, but berg wind, so not too cold [05:34] nice [05:34] cold here, and misty, pro will be wet when he gets to work on the motor bike [05:38] Not too much so. Very light drizzle [05:39] Isn't one of the xombrero devs on here occasionally? [05:39] mornings [05:42] paddatrapper he is DalekSec [05:42] but very busy most of the time and many hours behind us [05:42] hi Cryterion [05:51] hi nlsthzn hows things there? [05:51] send heat man [05:51] will do :p [05:51] and all well thanks... and there? [05:51] ok ty [05:57] * Cryterion packages some excess heat [05:57] sjoe, send sendd [05:57] freezing here [06:02] hi anton_may urbanslug [06:03] koud inetpro_ ? [06:03] dooi die stert [06:06] the > 30 degC nights have started here >.< [06:06] swop [06:07] ill rather sweat the shiver [06:07] can't strip to more than your skin [06:07] or less than your skin I mean Lo [06:07] you fogot how to make the ° sign [06:07] :p [06:07] I should be on the beach fishing right now, sun's out, nice 25degC, no wind :) [06:07] copy mine and save it [06:07] hehe [06:08] you cant wear lotsa clothes on your nose and eyes [06:09] i have a knitted kinda beanie thing to help with head and ears [06:11] mornings [06:12] good mornings [06:13] nat? [06:13] oh my... === inetpro_ is now known as inetpro [06:13] nee droog [06:13] biking in this mist sucks [06:16] gorillas in the mist? [06:16] lol [06:26] Kilos: Only issue I have with xombrero is that it is GTK based, so so many dependencies to install! [06:27] i didnt even worry, just installed [06:28] most of them are tiny dependancies iirc [06:28] installing was fast [06:28] the big thing is the security control you have [06:30] How did you install? Can't find it in the archives [06:30] from the ppa [06:30] And no install docs on in the wiki [06:30] lemme see if i saved the link [06:31] Found it I think: https://launchpad.net/~unit193/+archive/ubuntu/xombrero [06:31] yes [06:35] Got it working :) [06:35] yay [06:42] you have to study paddatrapper [06:42] Sitting in a lecture at the moment and we're going over stuff, so I'm good for the moment [06:43] I use for the moment way too much... [06:44] concentrate on lectures [07:00] Kilos-: And the next lecture has only about a third of the class here... The joys of the final week [07:01] ok [07:03] other peeps are too clever [07:05] I'd say! Some of the stuff here goes right over my head [07:06] concentrate [07:06] here being this channel [07:07] lol [07:07] dont concentrate here man , concentrate on the lecture [07:08] I'll be back in a bit [07:28] I'm hungry [07:28] Maaz make a plan [07:28] mazal: Huh? [07:56] Hi Kilos- I see youve grown a tail again...lmga [07:58] I just logged in again last night to check on the command you wrote [08:23] hi Langjan === Kilos- is now known as Kilos [08:24] Hi there Kilos, been chasing sheep or just losing your tail? [08:24] sheep [08:24] what tail? [08:24] ok, you ok otherwise? [08:24] yes ty and you? [08:25] also thks, no tail [08:25] was very cold this mornin [08:25] eish! mild here [08:25] frost? [08:25] no just thick mist [08:26] whats news with susans pc [08:26] we had mist on Monday after the rain, seldom happens here [08:26] solid here this morning, couldnt see 50 metres about ahead [08:27] I have not been to run those commands but there seems to be another complication [08:27] between 50 and 100, was too cold to go measure [08:27] ai! what now [08:27] not on Ubuntu [08:28] her husband runs on win xp [08:28] since I installed the cable he cannot send e-mails [08:28] says access denied [08:28] he can receive but not send [08:29] smtp authentication required [08:29] through your router? [08:29] yes [08:29] must be settings in router then [08:29] susan can send and receive [08:29] anton_may will help with that [08:30] hi anton_may [08:30] convert the old man to u buntu as well [08:30] Lo Langjan, what is the email client/ [08:30] tried but hes more stubborn than me [08:30] lol [08:30] ai! [08:30] anton_may, its vodamail [08:31] ok, but how do you read the mail, via an email program or web? [08:31] oh sorry, outlook [08:31] Ok, need to dust the cobweb of my brain with Outlook [08:32] lmga [08:32] these young peeps talk about cobwebs already, what have we got [08:32] heavy duty shade cloth [08:32] pampoenpitte [08:33] lol [08:33] eish I dont use Outlook anymore for the last 5 years [08:33] ek ook [08:33] To turn this setting on: [08:33] From the Tools menu, choose "Accounts." [08:33] Select click the Network Solutions' Mail account (e.g. mail.example.com) and click "Properties." [08:33] Select the "Servers" tab. [08:33] Check the box next to "My Server Requires Authentication." [08:34] Click "OK." [08:35] tell the old man that will cost him a large melktert [08:35] only ubuntu help is free [08:35] souttert [08:35] many thks will give it a go anton_may [08:35] of dit ja [08:35] geen probleem [08:35] waar is jy anton_may ? [08:35] Guatenf [08:35] Guateng [08:35] souttert kan my vroutjie maak, waar is jou afleweringsadres? [08:36] waar in gauteng [08:36] haha [08:36] ? [08:36] Werk JHB, bly in PTA [08:36] waar in Pta? [08:36] nee man die ou toppie moet dit maak [08:36] gautrein? [08:36] PTA Noord [08:36] Ja ek ry die trein somtyds [08:36] soos vandag [08:37] ok kan iets reel my skoonsen se besigheid is daar [08:37] seun [08:37] PTA Noord? [08:38] Ja Rachel de Beer str, groot nuwe JMC vertoonlokaal en dienssentrum [08:38] Rainbow Motors [08:38] Oohhhh okay [08:38] Ja ek bly in Dorandia [08:38] ty for the help anton_may [08:38] ek sal eers moet kyk of jou oplossing werk...lmga! [08:38] just the mention of xp started my head thumping [08:39] lol np [08:39] Ja just go to the sttings [08:39] let me go try and see what happpens [08:42] testing testing [08:42] hi tahaan [08:43] Greetings [08:44] welcome to ubuntu-za [08:44] lo tahaan [08:44] Thank you kindly [08:44] elo anton_may [08:45] if you need help just state your problem [08:45] if you dont need help hang around and help us [08:46] kilos: sounds good. === thatgraemeguy_ is now known as thatgraemeguy [08:46] I just did a channel search on ubuntu and thought why not join. [08:46] hi thatgraemeguy or wb [08:46] yes we need some serious help here [08:46] haha this is the za help channel [08:47] where are you tahaan [08:47] Cape Town [08:47] we have many guys there [08:47] https://ubuntu-za.org check our site [08:53] Hey tahaan [08:53] Hello paddatrapper [08:53] I'm also from CT. Where about are you? [08:54] Durbanville. [08:54] Nice. The far side of town from me (Muizenberg) [08:57] Morning [08:57] hi theblazehen [08:58] you catching up? [08:58] Still waiting for backup to copy. Rsync.net isn't that fast :/ [08:58] Then gonna restore backup and hope it works [08:58] Kilos: Talking of XP - I have to laugh at everyone running windows around me knowing they will all have to run (at least in a VM) Ubunut next year if they continue with CS [08:59] Then also going my proper work [08:59] lol [08:59] wow theblazehen thats a long time [08:59] what size was it [08:59] Yeah. So far copied 38 GB since last night only [09:00] thats a large backup [09:00] What speed are you getting? Doesn't sound too bad [09:01] Lots of images on the sites. Not 100% sure, rsync only shows file by file basis. Lots of small files [09:08] Hi anton_may and Kilos the mails are running, many thks - it was also not set to connect via LAN which I corrected [09:08] Kilos, Susan's machin also seems to be restarting fine now, baie dankie [09:09] \0/ [09:09] woohoo [09:10] nou skuld ek 'n souttert [09:11] nee wat dit is regtig nie nodig nie [09:12] baie dankie waardeer jou hulp [09:13] hmm... [09:13] souttert Kilos ? [09:13] yay Langjan [09:13] na im ok [09:14] any visa news? [09:14] sigh, dont even ask [09:14] u moving? [09:14] jammer... [09:14] visiting his folks in Melbourne [09:14] im sure they have someone puttin me at the bottom of the pile everyday [09:15] or trying to... [09:15] ah ok, the percs of beingh married to an Ita [09:15] and i find no contact info for the vaccu peeps [09:15] eish, they say 30 days [09:16] visa peeps waiting for vaccu only [09:16] im a security risk for them [09:16] grrrr [09:17] really? So what they are scared you are going to run away with theri sheep? [09:17] im glad everything is working Langjan [09:17] lol [09:17] Yes many thks Kilos [09:17] i have no idea what they are scared of [09:17] kde [09:17] haha [09:18] ja sometimes I'm also scarfed of kde [09:18] ai! kde rocks [09:18] see Kilos not only me... [09:18] no need to fix things all the time [09:18] julle bangbroeke [09:18] thinking of rocking arch a bit [09:19] but then I will never be contacting you [09:19] haha you will [09:19] you have too many peeps on unity to have a restful life [09:20] today im gonna plow some kweek out [09:20] no wonder theres nokde probls, only you using it [09:20] if i get the energy [09:20] haha nono [09:20] oh one more? [09:20] fly and pro and paddatrapper [09:21] actually three, wow [09:21] and mazal but het likes breaking things [09:21] hahaha [09:21] some people can break an anvil [09:21] and even unity [09:21] lol yes [09:22] I'm yet to have it break badly on me. Crashes ocasionally, but never really affects my work [09:22] what crashes [09:22] 14.04 kde doesnt crash [09:23] neither does Jacob Zuma [09:23] moenie krap waar dit nie jik nie [09:23] just keeps going [09:23] haha [09:25] OK Kilos and anton_may I am leaving, chat later and thks again [09:25] ty for the visit sir [09:25] have a good day [09:25] you too thks [09:27] ciao [09:32] Kilos: It does crash occasionally, but recovers just fine and I can never really reproduce it [09:49] Linux linux-l2sv 4.5.4-1-default #1 SMP PREEMPT Wed May 11 15:23:21 UTC 2016 (db90c25) x86_64 x86_64 x86_64 GNU/Linux [09:49] fresh and toasty [09:50] this freenode irc server's addy is irc.freenode.net yes ? [09:50] mazal: irc.. Is a pool of servers [09:50] Check the messages the server sent for specific address [09:51] But when you first set it up [09:51] The client [09:58] could be irc.ubuntu.com [09:58] all depends on what you used :p [09:59] * nlsthzn suspects his is set up for irc.opensuse.org or something like that [10:05] hmm [10:06] Set it up long ago on a Winbloze pc and can't remember what server I used [10:06] On ubuntu it's always setup up already [10:25] chat.freenode.net [10:25] mazal yjays what i use [10:26] This one also connected to that this morning [10:27] you can connect to any freenode server and have access to all channels [11:09] hi [11:09] 0/ melodie [11:09] hi anton_may [11:10] hi melodie [11:10] hello Kilos ! [11:10] hehe [11:10] you well girl? [11:11] I have a very important message for the African GNU/Linux users, all countries interested, and I need you to bring it further in all your circles and networks. It's about a free software that is unique, and endangered as rare species [11:11] one that can be used in cyber cafés : the server and the client [11:11] and therefore useful for all places where the time is counted while the clients browse the internet! [11:11] ok? [11:12] ready to look? :) [11:12] ok spread the word here and in the afica channel please [11:12] yes, of course [11:14] the point is, it's been developped for linux, windows, is the only free software meant for this purpose and needs to be taken care of, adopted forked, and tested in the latest Ubuntu lts available, trusty and xenial [11:14] now the links: [11:14] mkahawa.sourceforge.net [11:15] and here are the latest discussions, see my post below [11:15] https://sourceforge.net/p/mkahawa/discussion/955736/thread/981abb29/ [11:18] Kilos so I count on you to send a mail about it and ask people to grab it and help make it work on the latest versions of Ubuntu : can you do that? [11:19] ill spread it yes [11:31] Kilos: how do you do secure nickserv login on hexchat? [11:32] oh my [11:32] what irc server do you join? [11:32] must be where you chose server [11:32] chat.freenode.net port 7070 [11:33] and tick the ssl block [11:36] chat.freenode.net/7070 ? [11:36] can I leave the irc.freenode.net/8001 under it? [11:43] yes i spose so [11:43] i always just delete what i dont use [11:44] i have actually left it before, and used when the server went down i switched and was online again [11:49] alright I added yours as the first one [11:49] I can only do nickserv verification by using the /msg option [11:49] login method being /NICKSERV [11:51] what happens if you restart hexchat [11:51] i'm scared to [11:52] no man why [11:52] Mine always authenticate with /msg method [11:52] Didn't even know there is another method [11:52] mine authenticate automatically when opening app [11:53] Mine happens automatic also. But it's set in the nickserv options [11:53] oh [11:53] There's a part "nickserv" password [11:53] i havent had to go that route yet [11:53] Just add it there and it does automatic [11:53] yes you must have your freenode number in there [11:54] 2 places for password [11:54] i think [11:54] forget hexchats setup [11:54] xchat had 2 places [11:54] wait, which part are you guys talking about? I previously did what you said, but only the /NICKSERV option worked for me [11:54] konversatiion just the one place [11:54] yes [11:55] konversation has one only [11:55] kulelu88, I'm not on xchat so can't tell you where , I am on Konversation [11:55] do you guys have your nickname specified? I said, use global info. maybe thats the issue [11:55] In the identity setting yes [11:55] dont tick anything else on the setup part [11:56] You set your main nick plus 2 alternates and nickserv password , well that's on this one anyway [11:56] just enter your nick and alternatives and passwords [11:57] let me look at hexchat, installed it last night [11:58] *sigh* Now dukto suddenly doesn't want to work [11:58] heh, I use dukto. how can I assist there? [11:58] one place for password [11:59] send me a screenshot of your settings Kilos . first remove your password [11:59] login method sasl [11:59] username and password [11:59] kulelu88, keeps freezing up , this 16.04 is driving me nuts with all the struggles [11:59] Gonna try update dukto itself and see [11:59] oh fekk, 16.04 comes with systemd, which is probably the cause [12:00] check your firewall and allow the dukto port [12:00] ill have to go off here to get hexchat working on ssl [12:00] * theblazehen is falling asleep here :( [12:01] theblazehen: how do you build your LXC containers by themselves? [12:02] kulelu88: Check out https://docs.saltstack.com/en/latest/topics/tutorials/lxc.html#initializing-a-new-container-as-a-salt-minion [12:03] so you run Salt on your host? theblazehen [12:03] Was the plan, yeah [12:04] * theblazehen still hasn't rebuilt it [12:04] Speaking of which [12:04] mazal: Coffee on [12:04] i can even change port to 7070 on hexchat [12:04] Maaz: * [12:04] theblazehen: Sorry... [12:04] it looks like you're building for remote containers. is that what you're doing? theblazehen [12:04] did it work? Kilos [12:05] i cant change the port from 6697 to 7070 [12:05] kulelu88: Yeah, I want remote, with remote = pc in my room. Want to have remote access, spin up container on laptop and run on desktop at home basically [12:05] use konversation it easier [12:05] But not 100% sure how exactly everything will work yet [12:05] Will let you know when everything's sorted kulelu88 [12:06] maybe I should just write my own python-automator/automater [12:07] Salt is in python btw [12:07] And check out ansible [12:07] IIRC python too [12:08] dukto repo doesn't work so can't update it :( [12:08] ah kulelu88 [12:08] aren't they too bloated? theblazehen [12:08] chat.freenode.net:7070 [12:09] not: chat.freenode.net/7070 ? Kilos [12:10] when i use the / it reverts to /6697 [12:10] kulelu88: You can also use salt-ssh if you don't want a minion [12:11] there [12:11] Connecting to chat.freenode.net (185.30.166.37:7070) [12:11] so which are you using? Kilos [12:11] lemme do a screenshot [12:12] chat.freenode.net:7070 [12:13] seems to change it to /7070 by itself [12:17] http://pasteboard.co/10UXSXjw.png [12:17] ys but you need to use :7070 to make it work [12:18] I see it now. you also used global info [12:18] I'll test it out later [12:18] yes [12:25] Wow ok the day is over already [12:25] Have a nice afternoon everyone [12:46] chesedo: you around? [14:11] Maaz: COffe on please. 5 cusp [14:11] theblazehen: *blink* [14:11] Maaz: coffee on [14:11] * Maaz flips the salt-timer [14:15] Maaz: coffee please [14:15] superfly: Done [14:15] Coffee's ready for theblazehen and superfly! [14:16] hey superfly. How's things going? [14:16] ty Maaz [14:27] 5 irl coffees, still faaling asleep. What do? [14:33] theblazehen: meh. Car died on the way to work this morning [14:34] Had to be towed home. Now sitting at home trying to work while the children scream blue murder and attempt to dismantle the house [14:46] superfly: Damn, that sucks :( [14:46] Any idea what's wrong with car? [14:47] oh my superfly [14:47] it just died or spluttered first or what [15:04] theblazehen: not really. Will check a few things later this evening [15:05] superfly hi, sorry to hear that. I suggest : put the children at work! make them busy! [15:05] melodie: they're still small [15:06] they can run and shout then not too small to do a small job [15:06] ie: fold clothe, store them... [15:06] or else [15:07] such as creating decorations with folded papers (origami) [15:07] let them be creative! [15:07] (not noisy ^^) [15:20] melodie so you need someone to compile that package? is that what you want me to help with? [15:20] Kilos nope! [15:21] ok explain what i must ask for or advertise please [15:21] I want you to advertise this application on your mailing lists, in order to find developers who will take on the project, and make it live [15:21] im slow again today [15:21] because it's always half dying and it's a real pity [15:21] ah ok [15:23] it is also a known fact that sourceforge has been acting evil with some Free software projects and that it's a place where it's not good to have FLOSS projects now. So when some decide to form a community around it, there are better places (such as gitlab, a real free libre open source project) and bitbucket [15:23] Kilos while advertising you might also want to point to the screenshots and sources and so one [15:24] so on [15:24] the last compiling I did 3 years ago was working fine in Bento Precise [15:24] all here, if someone wants to unpack them into a Bento Precise: phillw.net/isos/bento-ubuntu-remix/misc/BentoVillageProject/Mkahawa/ [15:25] it's very easy. As root, it just needs to be unpacked under / [15:31] ok ill add that link too [15:31] why did you stop working on it [15:32] going to be hard to find devs with time, everyone all over the world seems to be snowed under [15:33] and making aa living comes first [16:13] melodie check your mail [16:13] is that right? [16:15] not quite [16:15] give me time and I'll send a text (later tonight) ok? [16:15] can you fix it and mail back to me please [16:15] ok [16:56] bbl [17:00] supper time [17:05] see you some time later! [17:32] melodie clearly doesn't have children [17:33] she has a son thats in his teens i think [18:01] Ugh. Since I upgraded to firefox aurora the other day it keeps bugging me about a security update [18:39] sjoe 101m upgrade [18:43] Just had one also , and finally fixed the network manager aplet [18:43] yay [18:45] night all. sleep tight [18:45] Nag oom , lekker slaap [18:45] dankie seun, jy ook