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meetingologyMeeting started Thu May 19 15:01:06 2016 UTC.  The chair is slangasek. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.ubuntu.com/meetingology.15:01
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slangasek[TOPIC] Lightning round15:01
=== meetingology changed the topic of #ubuntu-meeting to: Lightning round
slangasek$ echo $(shuf -e barry doko bdmurray slangasek caribou infinity sil2100 robru cyphermox pitti tdaitx xnox chiluk)15:01
slangasekbarry caribou pitti sil2100 bdmurray robru infinity tdaitx doko cyphermox xnox slangasek chiluk15:01
barryoh great15:02
sil2100barry: winner!15:02
slangasek:)15:02
* barry scrolls through his gtimelog15:02
barrypyflakes 1.2.2-3, 1.2.3-115:02
barryupgrade desktop to yakkety15:02
barrystarted a libpeas resync w/debian (ppa: barry/libpeasresync)15:03
barrypython-flake8 2.5.4-3 (debian bug #824195)15:03
ubottuDebian bug 824195 in src:python-flake8 "python-flake8: FTBFS: Tries to download older version of pyflakes" [Serious,Fixed] http://bugs.debian.org/82419515:03
barrylooked again at LP: #1512792 - still can't repro15:03
ubottuLaunchpad bug 1512792 in python-pip (Ubuntu) "Pip crashes with cryptography/cffi/openssl error" [Medium,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/151279215:03
barryvarious and sundry pycon planning stuff15:03
barryvarious and sundry ubuntu-image work15:03
barryreviewed some branches for robru15:03
barrypyparsing 2.1.4+dfsg1-115:04
barry--done--15:04
caribou Bugfix :15:04
caribou - multipath coredump:15:04
caribou   LP: #1532789 - uploaded for SRU15:04
caribou   - Waiting for customer confirmation15:04
ubottuLaunchpad bug 1532789 in multipath-tools (Ubuntu Trusty) "Trusty multipath-tools suffering seg faults" [High,Fix committed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/153278915:04
caribou - Apache 2.4.18(xenial) backport (LP: #1335068)15:04
caribou   Uploaded to backport15:04
ubottuLaunchpad bug 1335068 in trusty-backports "Please backport apache2 2.4.10-1ubuntu1 (main) from Utopic" [Undecided,Fix released] https://launchpad.net/bugs/133506815:04
caribou Development work:15:04
caribou - makedumpfile development15:04
caribou   Various contribution from HPE15:04
caribou   further fix for s390 enablement15:04
caribou   Work on new DEP8 tests15:04
caribou - vsftpd DEP8 regression15:04
caribou   Argueing with upstream Debian to avoid delta15:04
caribou - Various sponsoring : bash-completion, multipath-tools15:05
caribou ☑ Done15:05
pittionly a 4-day week15:05
pitti16.10 planning:15:05
pitti - Discuss/research/draft convergence-y-replace-upstart blueprint; I have an initial working prototype now, needs more refinement/testing/packaging15:05
pitti - https://blueprints.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+spec/foundations-y-local-resolver: stil waiting for slangasek to review and accept for yakkety15:05
pitti - Network YAML config drafting with rharper; will have a meeting next week to discuss the remaining design issues and implementation plan15:05
pittiautopkgtest:15:05
pitti - quite some infrastructure maintenance due to some cloud issues, tests causing tmpfail loops, and s390x reorg15:05
pitti - britney: Produce update_output_notest.txt with a dry run ignoring test results, for easier lib transition untangling15:05
pitti - dpkg: Record test dependencies in Sources index, for implementing reverse test dependency triggering (#1491145); second patch version sent to Debian for review15:05
pitti - Test new arm64 kernels on the armhf lxd boxes in scalingstack (#1531768)15:05
pittidistro:15:05
pitti - apport: Fix UnicodeDecodeError in ubiquity hook (#1446537)15:05
pitti - Investigate apport regression on amd64, libnih/gcc problem (#1580601)15:05
pitti - pollinate: Fix dependency loops during boot (#1576333)15:05
pitti - upower: Fix behaviour when connecting to daemon fails (#1546641)15:05
pitti - Review Marco's upower kbd brightness patch (https://bugs.freedesktop.org/show_bug.cgi?id=95457)15:05
ubottuFreedesktop bug 95457 in general "KbdBacklight.GetBrightness always returns the cached value for keyboards with hardwired controls" [Normal,New]15:05
pitti - lots of SRU processing15:05
pitti - patch pilot shift15:06
pitti(end)15:06
sil2100- Landing team work, silo coordination, preparing landing e-mails15:06
sil2100- RTM status meetings15:06
sil2100- More work on OTA-11, preparing re-spins, pushing on fixes, snapshot copies etc.15:06
sil2100- Adding ubuntu-pd support to commitlogs, enabling frieza commitlogs15:06
sil2100- Discussing the future of the SDK seeds with the SDK team15:06
sil2100- Looking into the batch package copy from overlay to yakkety before trio landings15:06
sil2100- Xenial touch transition15:06
sil2100  * Improving the automated arm64-availability scripts15:06
sil2100  * Enabling arm64 in packaging for the touch meta package, backporting to xenial15:06
sil2100  * Discussing the arm64 oxide and ciborium situation15:06
sil2100- Landing team tools improvements, some ideas on a specific snapshot re-spin tool15:06
sil2100(done)15:06
bdmurraysubmitted RT to have missing assets investigated15:07
bdmurrayfound out the assets system changed on me15:07
bdmurraysubmitted a different RT to stop using assets.u.c altogether15:07
bdmurrayfixed bug with errors charm and allow_bug_filing option on precise15:07
bdmurrayconfirmed failed-queue retracers no long run into "ERROR: ExecutablePath" does not exist issues15:07
bdmurraywrote cassandra driver code to find crash reports about architectures we don't retrace15:07
bdmurraysubmitted RT to get some arm64 cores to test retracing15:07
bdmurrayreported Errors / Diasy bug LP: #1582295 (too many R's)15:07
bdmurrayworked with webops to migrate ET to PS4.5 swift15:07
bdmurraydealt with the mess (retracers hanging, large queues) that became15:07
bdmurrayreported apport bug LP: #1581682 re duplicate signature for package install failures15:07
ubottuLaunchpad bug 1582295 in Errors "package versions table shows multiple packages from release pocket" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/158229515:07
ubottuLaunchpad bug 1581682 in apport (Ubuntu Xenial) "Duplicate signature for Package problems missing info" [Medium,Fix committed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/158168215:07
bdmurrayworked on improvements to duplicate signature in the ubuntu hook15:07
bdmurraycommited fixes for apport bugs (LP: #1548421, LP: #1581682)15:07
bdmurrayresearch into and upload fix to Trusty for apport bug (LP: #1339663)15:07
bdmurrayinvestigation into LP: #156620115:07
bdmurrayresearch into apport bug (LP: #1446537)15:07
bdmurrayreview of apport package hooks that use attach_root_command_output (LP: #1446537)15:07
ubottuLaunchpad bug 1548421 in apport (Ubuntu Xenial) "python stacktrace during 'apport-bug'" [High,Fix committed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/154842115:07
ubottuLaunchpad bug 1339663 in apport (Ubuntu Trusty) "ubuntu-bug fails with "whoopsie-upload-all: error: unrecognized arguments" when /var/lib/apport/autoreport exists" [High,Fix committed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/133966315:07
ubottuLaunchpad bug 1566201 in apturl (Ubuntu) "/usr/bin/apturl-gtk:AttributeError:/usr/bin/apturl-gtk@47:main:enableChannel:doEnableChannel" [High,Triaged] https://launchpad.net/bugs/156620115:07
ubottuLaunchpad bug 1446537 in apport (Ubuntu Xenial) "apport hook fails in add_info with TypeError: 'str' does not support the buffer interface" [Undecided,In progress] https://launchpad.net/bugs/144653715:07
bdmurraySRU verification of trusty bug (LP: #989819)15:07
ubottuLaunchpad bug 989819 in Daisy "Make duplicate signature more specific for DBusException and OSError" [High,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/98981915:07
bdmurraypushed apport change to tag bugs apport-hook-error15:07
bdmurray✔ done15:07
robrulp:bileto15:07
robru- work on parallelizing builds continues15:07
robrulp:canonical-mojo-specs15:07
robru- fixes for passing token from bileto to jenkins15:07
robru(done)15:07
infinity- Meetings and start work on 'ubuntu-image' with zyga and barry15:07
infinity- Bug triage, AA, SRU, etc work for 16.04.115:07
infinity- Work with Andy on AA training, added him to snakefruit15:07
infinity- Existential crisis regarding impending surgery, drafted a hasty will to leave my free time to pitti and my sarcasm to doko15:07
infinity(done)15:08
tdaitx= JCK 815:08
tdaitx  * Debugging JFrame tests to get them working; JFrames are still still showing up yellow with no content15:08
tdaitx= Other15:08
tdaitx  * OpenJDK 6/7/8 bugs:15:08
tdaitx    - Triage, reproducing (or not), testing fixes, reporting issues upstream (913434, 1582229, 1581835, 1564780, 1580996)15:08
tdaitx(done)15:08
doko- short week (two bank holidays)15:08
doko- yakkety merges15:08
doko- GCC cross build fixes15:08
doko(done)15:08
cyphermox- sponsored bridge-utils for chiluk15:09
cyphermox- secure boot integration15:09
cyphermox - finished fixing up SB/shim on yakkety for third-party drivers15:09
cyphermox - dkms + grub uploads to use update-secureboot-policy.15:09
cyphermox- setup local maas environment15:09
cyphermox- testing IPv6 PXE boot with grub.15:09
cyphermox- grub patches for timers (EFI) on Hyper-V (bug LP: #1519836)15:09
cyphermox- preparing grub, shim-signed, dkms SRUs15:09
ubottuLaunchpad bug 1519836 in grub2-signed (Ubuntu Xenial) "MaaS fails to boot Hyper-V Generation 2 virtual machines" [High,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/151983615:09
pittiinfinity: you mean your *entire* 5 minutes of free time per week? /me is overwhelmed15:09
chilukthought it was cifs-utils.15:09
cyphermox- monday May 23 is Victoria/Patriots day15:09
cyphermox(done)15:09
xnoxs390-dasd/dasd -> preseed support in yakkety, unapproved for xenial bug #157294115:09
xnoxnetcfg -> unapproved sru for netcfg/vlan_id bug #1567687, and turning off dhcp preseed bug [s390x] bug #157260715:09
xnoxupstart -> review/merge & upload fixes for testsuite and desktop environment propagation, unapproved sru15:09
xnoxhelping to enable touch packages on arm64 in yakkety15:09
xnoxmeetings about ongoing s390x "support"15:09
xnoxmeetings about images for L1CC15:09
xnoxprep for Debconf15:09
xnoxoff next week15:09
xnox..15:10
ubottubug 1572941 in Ubuntu on IBM z Systems "s390-dasd module does not perform with preseed file" [Critical,In progress] https://launchpad.net/bugs/157294115:10
ubottubug 1567687 in netcfg (Ubuntu Xenial) "add vlan support" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/156768715:10
ubottubug 1572607 in netcfg (Ubuntu Xenial) "netcfg/disable_autoconfig=true still prompts for "Auto-configure networking?"" [High,Triaged] https://launchpad.net/bugs/157260715:10
cyphermoxchiluk: do you also need cifs sponsored?15:10
infinitypitti: I suspect I'll have a lot more free time if I'm dead.  You can have it all!15:10
chilukcyphermox: I'm pretty sure you sponsored cifs-utils not bridge-utils.15:10
* pitti is scared15:10
cyphermoxchiluk: oh, right, I'm mixing things up15:10
chilukno prob.15:10
cyphermoxchiluk: sponsored cifs-utils for you, bridge-utils for rhaper.15:11
chilukdon't worry cyphermox I will need more sponsorship15:11
chilukpesky customers always getting in the way.15:11
chilukslangasek: ??15:12
slangasekchiluk: !!15:13
chilukyour turn.15:13
slangasek * attended the snappy sprint in Vancouver last week! good sprint, brought back some urgent work items for the team which I've been discussing with a few of you (ubuntu-image)15:13
slangasek * working on documenting SRU exceptions for various Canonical projects that have upstream QA (juju, snapd)15:13
slangasek * brought a cold with me from the previous sprint through customs into Vancouver and back, so less productive than expected at the beginning of the week; but mostly cleared up now15:13
slangasek * discussions around z Series systems15:13
slangasek * uploaded a fix for a regression in the lsb SRU to trusty (LP: #1582813)15:13
ubottuLaunchpad bug 1582813 in lsb (Ubuntu Trusty) "service --status-all always reports upstart managed daemons as running" [High,Fix committed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/158281315:13
slangasek * various discussions with the team about priorities for the new cycle15:13
slangasek * learning a bit more about how packaging of golang software works15:13
slangasek * will be off this morning aside from this meeting15:13
slangasek(done)15:13
infinity15:13 < slangasek>  * learning a bit more about how packaging of golang software works15:14
infinityMy condolences.15:14
chiluk* LP #1576747 - Will test15:14
chiluk* LP #1581236 - Haswell does not reach greater than pc3.15:14
chiluk* LP #1579917 - Skylake with nvme does not reach greater than pc215:14
chiluk* LP #1581141 - cifs-utils15:14
chiluk* LP #1581595 - partman-auto-lvm15:14
chiluk* Will continue merging when my day job responsibilities allow.15:14
chiluk* Got network performance issue in STS Lab ironed out *100 mb link on router.15:14
chiluk- done -15:14
ubottuLaunchpad bug 1576747 in network-manager (Ubuntu) "Network manager unable to control wifi after suspend in 16.04" [High,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/157674715:14
ubottuLaunchpad bug 1581236 in linux (Ubuntu) "Power state does not drop lower than pc03 for package (Haswell i7-4500U) " [Medium,Incomplete] https://launchpad.net/bugs/158123615:14
ubottuLaunchpad bug 1579917 in linux (Ubuntu) "Skylake processor never reaches low power states on X1 Carbon gen 4 with NVMe drive" [Medium,Triaged] https://launchpad.net/bugs/157991715:14
ubottuLaunchpad bug 1581141 in cifs-utils (Ubuntu) "Merge from debian cifs-utils_6.5-2" [Low,Fix released] https://launchpad.net/bugs/158114115:14
ubottuLaunchpad bug 1581595 in partman-auto-lvm (Ubuntu) "Merge from debian partman-auto-lvm 59" [Low,In progress] https://launchpad.net/bugs/158159515:14
slangasekinfinity: I have a package with a "transitional" binary package, which if I drop it from debian/control, causes the package to FTBFS ;)15:14
chilukfyi cyphermox 1581595 is awaiting sponsorship15:14
cyphermoxyeah you got my curiosity when I saw a d-i component15:15
chilukyeah.. I'm kind of just picking things at random when they pique my interests.15:15
infinityslangasek: And not just because it goes from multi-binary to single-binary and installs to a different location?15:15
chilukif anyone has suggestions on which packages to work on first let me know.15:15
chilukI reserve the right to ignore your suggestions though.15:16
slangasekinfinity: proooobably not15:16
cyphermoxchiluk: just fyi, I personally don't mind since you seem to know what you're doing from what I've seen, but I was once told it was polite to ask the TIL owner before doing merges :)15:16
slangaseks/polite/efficient/15:16
cyphermoxthat too15:16
infinityslangasek: I keep meaning to file a debhelper bug begging to fix that for compat 10, and just always install to debian/tmp.15:16
slangasekinfinity: yes plz15:17
cyphermox+115:17
chilukwhat's the best way to look that up the TIL owner?15:17
slangasekchiluk: merges.u.c15:17
cyphermoxmom doesn't lie, usually15:17
slangasekchiluk: or "latest entry in the changelog"15:17
chilukyeah I didn't think that made them the owner.15:17
slangasekit's owner-by-default15:18
chilukbut just most probably the owner15:18
caribouinfinity: got bitten by that with mstflint on Xenial & uploaded a binary package w/o the binaries :-/15:18
slangasekok; any other questions re: status?15:19
cyphermoxslangasek: chiluk: since we do get the changelog in merges.u.c anyway, would it be worth it to try to bring up stats for who is the most likely owner via number of changelog entries?15:19
cyphermoxnot that that's in any way a priority ;)15:19
slangasekcyphermox: I think the current approach of TIL is fine15:20
slangasekif you touched it most recently, you are more likely to have time to work on the merge than someone who touched it 5 times 3 years ago15:21
cyphermoxtrue15:21
infinitydoko and I had a discussion at the CDO sprint wherein we opined that perhaps no-change uploads should retain the previous uploader's name in the changelog (so it would just look like a sponsored upload).15:21
slangasekand if you don't have time to work on the merge, someone can take the merge from you as appropriate15:21
cyphermoxI got no questions15:21
infinitySo TIL is more appropriately the "last meaningful upload".15:21
slangasekinfinity: well, it's not uncommon for me to do a no-change upload, find that I'm now TIL, and do a force-sync that otherwise wouldn't get done for a cycle15:22
slangasekbut perhaps my experience is not representative15:22
pittiyeah, same here15:23
pittii. e. one earns a lot of merges when doing lib transitions, but at least that cleans up some long-overdue merges15:23
infinitypitti: When you forced dpkg through, did you do anything about the (real) devscripts test regression?15:23
infinitypitti: If not, I'll file the Debian bug and get that fixed.15:24
bdmurrayCould we not count no-change uploads somehow?15:24
pittiinfinity: no, not yet; I just kept it as a tab (just like the nfs-utils regression), but didn't get to devscripts yet15:24
pittiinfinity: and devscripts was already broken by an earlier dpkg, so that's why I did'nt consider it a blocker for 1.18.715:25
pitti(or earlier whatever)15:25
infinitypitti: It was?  It looked like it was passing before dpkg.15:26
slangasekbdmurray: could; I just don't think it's worth the effort.  If anyone in particular is bothered by being TIL on too many packages, they can always offer them up15:26
slangasek[TOPIC] AOB15:26
=== meetingology changed the topic of #ubuntu-meeting to: AOB
pittiinfinity: http://autopkgtest.ubuntu.com/packages/d/devscripts/yakkety/amd64/15:26
bdmurrayslangasek: offer them up where?15:26
slangasekbdmurray: here, ubuntu-devel, wherever :)15:27
dokobdmurray, what do you mean by "not count"?15:27
slangasekanything else, today?15:27
barryany travis experts among us?15:27
cyphermoxthere is always some victim^Wenthusiastic new developer who might want to take care of package XYZ15:27
slangasekI went to elementary school with a travis15:28
infinityI know a Travis who's a total jerk.15:28
pittislangasek, bdmurray: I think the best place to "offer" them is the comment column in MoM15:28
barryonly if he turned into a stand-up comedian named travis c.i.15:28
slangasekpitti: good point15:28
pittisimple to use, and right where you'd expect them15:28
pittiand a lot of merges have such a comment already15:28
slangasekbarry: heh15:28
chiluki know 3 Travis's  one of which sends sexts to groupme volleyball groups by accident.15:28
infinity...15:29
infinitychiluk: You win.15:29
infinitychiluk: Or lose...15:29
chilukinfinity: bad flashbacks.15:29
* barry is glad he asked15:29
slangasek:)15:30
slangasekalright, anything else?15:30
cyphermoxchiluk: fyi isc-dhcp might be manageable. not easy, but fun15:30
chilukalrighty... I'm trying to do quassel right now, but it's not the cleanest of package.. as I have a personal interest in quassel working well.15:30
cyphermoxchiluk: thanks for that15:31
cyphermoxslangasek: nothing here.15:31
chiluknothing else slangasek15:31
bdmurrayOh, I could use some help with bug 1566201.15:31
ubottubug 1566201 in apturl (Ubuntu) "/usr/bin/apturl-gtk:AttributeError:/usr/bin/apturl-gtk@47:main:enableChannel:doEnableChannel" [High,Triaged] https://launchpad.net/bugs/156620115:31
sil2100All good here, just waiting for you to have a few free cycles to give me some advice on the batch copy stuff15:32
bdmurrayIt happens an awful lot in Xenial.15:32
slangasekchecked quickly that adobe-flashplugin is published to xenial partner (it is)15:33
cyphermoxbdmurray: that reminds me of something I touched last cycle15:34
* cyphermox greps15:34
slangasekbdmurray: just ran the command from the commandline and it didn't crash immediately15:34
slangasekgreat, cyphermox will take it :)15:34
bdmurrayI've fixed a couple of tracebacks in that bug but I'm somewhat stuck on the last one.15:34
slangasek#endmeeting15:35
=== meetingology changed the topic of #ubuntu-meeting to: Ubuntu Meeting Grounds: Please leave swords by the door | Calendar/Scheduled meetings: http://fridge.ubuntu.com/calendars | Logs: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MeetingLogs | Meetingology documentation: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/meetingology
meetingologyMeeting ended Thu May 19 15:35:03 2016 UTC.15:35
meetingologyMinutes:        http://ubottu.com/meetingology/logs/ubuntu-meeting/2016/ubuntu-meeting.2016-05-19-15.01.moin.txt15:35
barrythanks!15:35
slangasekok, thanks folks!15:35
pittithanks everyone!15:35
caribouthanks all !15:35
howefieldhi, is the Ubuntu Governance meeting on ?17:11
howefield howefield | hi, is the Ubuntu Governance meeting on ?  howefield | hi, is the Ubuntu Governance meeting on ?17:34
howefieldoops, sorry.. mistype17:34
Kilosi thought you were just stuttering17:35
howefieldcopy/paste fail :)17:37
Kiloslol17:38

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