[07:53] <nhaines> Hmm, it looks like *all* my libertine-container-manager stuff disappeared on powerdown.  The container, all the configs... everything.
[07:53] <nhaines> So now I'm even more upset.  :)
[08:53] <brunch875> Oof, rythmbox doesn't seem to detect any music on the utouch
[08:53] <brunch875> E4.5, to be more precise
[09:47] <aovchinnikov> hi. guys, release notes for Trusty Tahr on Ubuntu wiki say that Ubuntu Core is supported, but the link to image leads nowhere. is this behaviour correct? also where can I find the image now? (the link worked fine a few weeks ago)
[09:50] <aovchinnikov> oops, looks like a wrong channel, sorry!
[14:34] <mivoligo__> alecu, hi, are you the right person to ask about in app payments?
[14:35] <alecu> hi mivoligo__: yes!
[14:38] <mivoligo__> alecu, great! I'd like to add a feature to my app which would be unlocked after a user buys it. Now, if a user has the app installed on more than one device, how it is handled. Will the app on the other device "know" that he bought the feature on his first device?
[14:40] <alecu> mivoligo__: yes, when the app starts on the second device, it can check with the Ubuntu Store if any item has been purchased by the user
[14:40] <alecu> mivoligo__: the user must have logged with the same Ubuntu One account, of course.
[14:42] <alecu> mivoligo__: we are currently in closed beta, so in-app-purchase is not open to all 3rd party devels, but if you are interested in trying it in your app I can add you.
[14:42] <mivoligo__> alecu, that sounds good. Are there any docs/guides about imlementing IAP?
[14:42] <alecu> mivoligo__: please mail me your launchpad username at alecu@canonical.com
[14:43] <mivoligo__> alecu, sure, will do
[14:43] <alecu> mivoligo__: yes, there was a session on the previous Ubuntu Online Summit, and there's a doc with more details. I'll send you the links.
[14:58] <mivoligo__> alecu, email sent :)
[14:58] <alecu> thanks
[15:50] <mivoligo__> question about keyboard navigation: I noticed buttons or header actions are highlighted when using keyboard navigation. How can I make sure custom buttons are also highlighted the same way as standard components?
[15:54] <mivoligo__> for example I have a custom "ClickyButton" based on  AbstractButton component. Although it gets focus when navigating with keyboard, it does not get the highlight, so I can't see if the focus is on it.
[16:19] <dobey> mivoligo__: #ubuntu-app-devel might be a better place for that
[16:29] <mcphail> tedg: https://bugs.launchpad.net/canonical-developer-experience/+bug/1521292/comments/2 - Seriously?? We don't even have an ETA for snappy. It is becoming hard to remain motivated to bring anything new to the platform
[16:29] <tedg> mcphail: Yes, seriously. It doesn't make sense to build a new mechanism, better to spend that effort bringing snappy up to speed.
[16:30] <mcphail> tedg: that leads to the important question of "when"?
[16:30] <tedg> mcphail: And the answer is "as fast as I can get it done" :-)
[16:31] <mcphail> tedg: U has been available commercially for > 1 year and we still don't have any way to access an sd card. It isn't a great developer or user experience, tbh
[16:31] <tedg> mcphail: We need to be on xenial/systemd first, that's the first step.
[16:31] <tedg> mcphail: That'll be the storage framework, which is being worked on. Not sure of timelines though.
[16:31] <tedg> mcphail: That's different that content interfaces though.
[16:32] <mcphail> tedg: OK. I appreciate you're working hard on this. But I'd have preferred that bug was kept open until it _is_ fixed (with snappy or whatever)
[16:33] <pmcgowan> mcphail, I can reopen it in the spirit of not forgetting the need
[16:33] <mcphail> pmcgowan: :)
[16:33] <mcphail> pmcgowan: keep the flame alive!
[16:33] <pmcgowan> indeed
[16:33] <mcphail> Much appreciated
[16:38] <popey> pmcgowan: do you know if we have a bug tracking random phone reboots? I am at a conf and have witnessed another phone user have their phone randomly restart all the time
[16:38] <popey> mx4
[16:43] <mcphail> tedg: pmcgowan: Thanks both. Sorry for being so grumpy
[16:46] <pmcgowan> mcphail, not a problem, so much to do though
[16:46] <pmcgowan> popey, thats not on the radar
[16:49] <popey> pmcgowan: okay, I'll get him to file a bug
[16:54] <pmcgowan> popey, none of us dog fooders seeing that
[16:55] <popey> hmm
[16:57] <ahayzen> popey, i've had some random reboots on my mako :-) but that is usually when using the camera
[17:03] <popey> ahayzen: hmm, we should capture those bugs
[17:03] <ahayzen> popey, difficult to capture as it is a hard reset just happens instantly...i've reported that one before
[17:04] <ahayzen> bug 1455087
[17:04] <popey> i think the user I was watching was using camera too
[17:05] <pmcgowan> popey, https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/1551811
[17:06] <ahayzen> mine wasn't on first time... it is just after a bit of use, but i suspect it is something in the android side or something...but mine is on mako so maybe different :-)
[17:09] <popey> yeah. not sure it's the same, will try and grab some data from his phone.
[17:09] <popey> It's painful to see happen though. Just sat there and suddenly the screen goes blank and you get the Meizu reboot logo
[22:20] <jarlath> Having issues running phablet-shell on the E4.5. Can anyone make sense of this output? http://paste.ubuntu.com/16514316/