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diddledanoh boy: https://twitter.com/SwiftOnSecurity/status/73309495744823705600:41
diddledanI like how they use the first three adapters even though they clearly had a ps2 port available next to the PSU00:43
daftykins;)01:05
daftykinsit didn't seem to be an exercise in functionality01:05
knightwiseMorningn peeps06:43
daftykinsg'morn \o06:43
daftykinsanother plane lost :|06:43
daftykinshttps://www.flightradar24.com/data/flights/ms804/#9c0b76606:43
diploMorning all06:49
daftykins\o06:51
SwitchesMorning07:33
daftykins\o07:34
SwitchesHeya daftykins, hows you?07:41
brobostigonmorning boys and girls.07:43
daftykinsheyoooo o/07:43
Switcheshey brobostigon07:43
daftykinsall good here thanks Switches! pottering about today :) and thee?07:43
SwitchesYeah not bad mate, just doing my usual, reading and drinking coffee :)07:44
brobostigonmorning daftykins and Switches07:45
daftykinssame here! although my coffee seems to have evaporated07:45
Switches:o time for a refill then bud07:46
daftykins>:)07:46
foobarrywow dell completly disabled one finger scrolling on  their drivers for windows08:09
daftykinso008:10
daftykinslike the edge scroll zones?08:10
daftykinsmaybe some generic drivers'd work if it is lacking in the settings, but it's all about two finger!08:10
foobarrytwo finger suck08:11
foobarryespecially their implementation08:11
foobarryit keeps bouncing back up the screen again08:11
daftykinsthat's pretty common now, mmm08:11
daftykinstouchpad on my XPS13 is amazing under windows 10 :D08:11
daftykinsfinally they catch up to Apple standard (i'm sad to admit)08:12
foobarryoh wow08:12
foobarrythere's a hidden utility08:12
daftykins:O08:12
foobarryinstead of delltouchpad.exe (the default tray icon)08:12
foobarrythere exists a delltpad.exe with the one finger stuff08:13
foobarryone a need to know basis!08:13
daftykinsto do Windows right, you need a nice clean install without this crap08:13
daftykinssmells like a factory install to me :)08:13
foobarryi did that i think08:14
foobarrybut installed some dell drivers to make all the ! go away08:15
daftykinshrmm08:16
daftykinsmust be contaminated! :>08:16
davmor2Morning mortals08:19
SuperMattmorning oh immortal god of the underworld, davmor208:29
SuperMattwe offer un to you this sacrifice of foobarry08:29
* daftykins helps prepare the sacrifice08:30
davmor2SuperMatt: hahahaha08:30
foobarry..................)o)08:31
SuperMattYOU SHALL NOT FLEE THE WRATH OF THE GREAT ONE08:31
davmor2foobarry: see how they pick on you08:31
foobarryplease believe me oh great tux, i have not used windows as my main desktop for 15 years08:32
davmor2so the youtube scope on the phone list a new star trek tv series hmmmmmmmmm08:32
foobarryi notice some sour grapes on behalf of omgubntun that they didn't get a review copy of the m10 tablet08:32
daftykinsindeedy! CBS trying again08:32
foobarrykeep carping on about bad reviews constantly08:33
daftykinsthe best i could manage was an eyebrow raise in the style of Spock08:33
davmor2daftykins: hahaha08:33
SuperMattfoobarry: my guess is that they weren't sent a copy because the OEM were relying on a favourable review from them no matter what08:34
SuperMattJoey clearly saw through that08:34
foobarryhowever clearly sour graps08:34
foobarryno need to search out bad reviews08:34
foobarryand keep mentining it08:34
foobarryclearly won't be considered next time08:34
SuperMattto be honest, it looks like a dreadful device, so it should be panned08:35
davmor2SuperMatt: more the fact that they were limited number of devices, and as an insider he already has two devices that are his not just on loan08:36
foobarryawww no bash on win10 for me08:36
daftykinsy'gotta be running the latest insider preview08:36
foobarrymeh08:36
davmor2foobarry: don't you need the developer version or something08:36
daftykinsthat too08:37
foobarrywhat daftykins said08:37
foobarryi have build 1058608:37
daftykinsgood ol' stock08:37
foobarryi only wanted windows for 2 apps08:38
foobarryand 1 is n/a :(08:38
davmor2so this is the song stuck in my head this morning https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dvgZkm1xWPE08:38
foobarryis it the frankfurter song?08:38
daftykinsapps? o008:38
davmor2foobarry: no08:38
daftykinsnot available in my country08:38
daftykinsWAT.08:38
davmor2daftykins: vmware vsphere client and Ubuntu on windows08:39
foobarryor whats that song with the fat kid rama aaaa duma eee eee08:39
foobarryhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=L9mojl_MBDg08:40
foobarrythats the one08:40
daftykinsnooooo :P08:40
daftykinsi just read vsphere for Windows is getting canned, it's all going HTML5 only08:41
davmor2foobarry: ^ what he said also I noticed they said there was a browser version08:41
foobarryneed it until web client is up to scratch08:41
foobarrythe workflow on the web client is unbelievably sucky08:42
daftykinsi remember playing with vmware server 1.x -> 2.0 and cringing at the web admin08:42
foobarryeverything hidden under related items08:42
foobarryalso keyboard shortcuts are the way to go in the client08:42
daftykinsmmm that would be a pain to go without08:43
JamesTaitGood morning all! Happy Thursday, and happy Devil’s Food Cake Day! 😃  🎂08:44
daftykinsooh my that sounds like a good day08:44
JamesTaitYes, I definitely approve.08:44
davmor2JamesTait: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fh9OzTL0iQc08:50
foobarrynuma numa guy made an updated version. it was terrible09:52
SuperMattIt wasn't great to begin with10:00
daftykinswow, in my head i thought you guys were talking about Non Uniform Memory Architecture10:09
SuperMattif only10:10
SuperMattinstead we were discussing the scrapping of the bottom of the popular culture barrel10:11
daftykinsseeing that large chap sing certainly makes my memory non-uniform10:11
Myrttireminder: change your LinkedIn passwords10:56
zmoylan-piwon't matter, linked in will still find you... :-P10:56
daftykinsseems so! anyone that had an account in 2012 anyway10:56
Myrttihttps://motherboard.vice.com/read/another-day-another-hack-117-million-linkedin-emails-and-password10:57
TwistedLucidityMyrtti: Change you password 3 years ago10:58
Myrttistill doesn't hurt to change it again...10:58
knightwiseafternoon peepz10:59
SuperMattnot yet10:59
SuperMattsomeone's a little premature10:59
* knightwise is not in your timezone ! 10:59
SuperMattnow!11:00
knightwiseStickler !11:00
zmoylan-pimaybe they're east of greenwich and calculating local time on sundial?11:00
knightwiseMe has a sundail wristwatch11:01
knightwiseI call it the "whatever-i-want-it-to-be-o'clock"11:01
zmoylan-pii always liked the personal sundials from animated around the world in 80 days11:01
foobarryMyrtti: is there a list we can check of linkedin?11:03
knightwise?  list ,11:03
foobarryleaked usernames11:03
daftykinslike searchable data he means11:04
foobarryyeah11:04
daftykinsso you can find out if you got nobbled11:04
TwistedLucidityProbably safest to assume "Yes" and change it11:04
* TwistedLucidity hates LinkedIn11:04
* knightwise lives by it 11:04
Myrttifoobarry: I always just assume mine got leaked and change it anyway instead of possibly leaking more information11:04
foobarryemails and encrypted passwords leaked11:05
foobarryAs this data set also originates from the 2012 hack, these passwords are encrypted in the same way – with “no salt” – meaning they are more easily cracked11:05
TwistedLucidityknightwise: Too much spam from them, all I ever got was annoyance from recruiters; so I stripped all the data I could. Can't see the value in it.11:05
foobarryso if i changed it after the 2012 hack i'm ok i guess11:05
knightwisei'm a freelance consultant so .. its like the red light district for me11:06
TwistedLucidityAhhh....that would be different.11:07
daftykinstook me a while to get that comparison XD11:07
knightwisedaftykins: :) your innocence is charming11:08
TwistedLucidityWhat I never understood about recruiters is why they ignore your preferences "Permi job, Central belt Scotlan"...can get repeated call with "Would you like a 3 month contract in London?" err...no11:08
daftykinsknightwise: nah i was just thinking "does knightwise mean as a customer or..."11:08
zmoylan-pithe commute would be interesting...11:08
knightwisedaftykins: i'm a freelance consultant11:08
daftykinsja but the red light bit11:09
daftykinsit's ok, all understood now :)11:09
knightwisehttps://www.linkedin.com/in/hendriksjo11:09
TwistedLucidityzmoylan-pi: No one could pay me enough to go back to London. Horrible place.11:09
zmoylan-pithe fun the excitement and that's just finding a place to live that you can afford...11:10
TwistedLucidityBarcelona? Yeah, that I would do in a heartbeat. But no hablo Espanol (or Catalan)11:10
TwistedLuciditySorry, missed the ñ there11:11
daftykins:)11:11
daftykinsi'm popping down again through Malaga for a brief work trip11:11
daftykinsgotta set up a fancy WiMAX internet connection down there, very novel territory11:12
knightwisedaftykins: that is cool11:13
TwistedLuciditydaftykins: Fancy a trip North? Internet up there is shocking.11:14
daftykinshehe, ah this is only as a consumer really. is BT's investment really low up where you are, or are you outside their net?11:14
TwistedLucidityOutside I think, it's Telefonica-Movistar11:15
daftykinscould be pretty cool to be such a provider, although wireless tech is probably a bit scary to work with regularly11:15
daftykinsoh North Spain you meant?11:15
TwistedLucidityAye11:15
daftykinsmy mistake, was thinking England/Scotland11:15
TwistedLucidityThat's a different problem.11:16
* TwistedLucidity glowers at VirginMedia11:16
daftykinsamusingly my clients apparently lucky to have a wired landline, but they've had the ADSL service in there be down for weeks at a time O_O everything else in the area is this funky WiMAX from masts up on the hills11:16
TwistedLucidityYeah, that's pretty much my experience as well. Pay for 20Mb, get 1Mb if yer lucky.11:17
daftykinsutilities seem a bit third world in general really in Spain to me :S11:17
daftykinsi remember reading about the limited power consumption that Lester Haines fella from theregister.co.uk had in a place down there, and sure enough my client had the same situation - they couldn't run the AC at the same time as a hairdryer in their apartment before the current refurb :D11:18
TwistedLucidityI can see the fibre getting laid but there appears to be (skirting close to stereotype here) a certain lack of work ethic11:18
TwistedLucidityIn all things11:18
TwistedLucidityI paid for urgent shipping of an item - it took a month to get from Spain to the UK.11:19
daftykins:/11:20
TwistedLucidityWhat is well set-up though it health care. Probably from all the conniptions people have trying to get a contractor to do their job!11:20
daftykinsgood to know! looked like there could be some good downhill mountain biking down there11:22
TwistedLucidityThe ambulance drivers are all rally-cross competitors I think. They'll hit the forest trails and simply not slow down.11:22
daftykinshahaha11:24
daftykinscome to think of it, i did say on my last trip that the southern spain look reminded me of colin mcrae rally gaming11:25
knightwisehttp://quidsup.net/tutorials/?p=retrogame anyone tried this yet ?11:33
TwistedLucidityknightwise: I've used RetroPi, which is another Emulation Station based thing11:35
knightwiseTwistedLucidity: i tried that on the pi11:36
knightwisebut now i would like to play some classics on the xps11:36
zmoylan-pidefine classics, pong, 8bit, 16bit, nintendo?11:37
knightwisenintendo11:37
knightwisesome galaga and super mario11:37
TwistedLucidityI seem to remember reading that the Kodi-devs were looking at adding better support for emulators etc11:37
knightwisewhen I can play super mario on the xps with a gamepad i'm happy :)11:39
* zmoylan-pi was just looking for some old program for my psion and found my zx spectrum emulator for it... :-)11:42
daftykinsit's a-me, maaaaario11:42
knightwiseI just love that stuff11:44
knightwiseI have a bunch of roms i found for my retropi project11:44
knightwiseOutrun ,11:45
knightwisegreen berret11:45
knightwiseshinobi :)11:45
knightwise(c64 classics)11:45
zmoylan-pii keep tau ceti, jet pac, bomb jack around11:46
knightwisehttps://archive.org/details/internetarcade11:55
foobarryi got a peter rabbit 50p coin12:07
foobarryapparently quite rare12:07
zmoylan-pirare rabbit.... mmmmm12:07
Myrttifoobarry: so do I!12:12
Myrttipaid £55 for it tho12:13
foobarryi was usinght eself service and noticed it.12:13
foobarryoh you got the colour one?12:13
Myrttiyeah12:13
foobarrythey are worth load now12:13
Myrttitempted by the others but I think we'll pass12:13
foobarryvalue will drop12:13
TwistedLucidityI have an old G-Shock is is now (apparently) eye-wateringly expensive12:13
TwistedLucidityScared to wear the blasted thing!12:14
bigcalmGood morning peeps :)12:14
foobarryMyrtti:£250+ ?12:14
Myrtti£15 more like12:15
Myrttijudging from eBay12:15
foobarryi got the non colour one and wanted to keep it so had to put a £10 note in the machine to pay the last 10p of my breakfast12:15
foobarryMyrtti: i see a lot of colour ones going for 250-350£12:16
foobarrythe non colour is more like £212:16
Myrttioh no, yes, 25012:16
foobarrycompleted sales too12:16
foobarrygonna reconsider?12:16
Myrttiwhat, selling it?12:16
foobarryyeah12:17
daftykinsthat's quite the chunk of change12:17
Myrttioh no. It's a present for a baby not born yet12:17
foobarryaww12:17
daftykinsvalue in things that don't serve a purpose mystifies me12:17
foobarryi.e "collectors edition" anything12:18
Myrttidaftykins: yeah we did spend a good amount of time considering would it be a good idea to buy it or not, but it's quite small in comparison to Toby jugs or Royal Doulton stuff12:18
Myrttiit's just nice to give something that's got a bit of value and a stamp of their birth year12:19
MyrttiI've got the Queen's Diamond Jubilee stamp on my engagement ring just for the sentimental value of having it12:19
foobarrymy wife loves BPotter12:19
daftykinsBarry Potter? :)12:20
foobarryand my kids watch it all the time (the older bbc animated series with niamh cusack)12:20
daftykins"Greek state-run TV is confirming that debris from the missing EgyptAir plane has been found 230 nautical miles west of the Mediterranean island of Crete"13:25
daftykinserk13:25
zmoylan-pihorrible but at least this time they found the plane...13:28
daftykinsindeed13:28
zmoylan-piand eventually most likely will find what caused it to come down13:28
diploAnyone used https://taiga.io ?13:51
SuperMattdaftykins: it's not been confirmed to be debris from the plane14:32
SuperMattbut it's the best bet right now14:32
daftykinsyeah, i'm on one of those live update feeds so it changes constantly14:33
SuperMattI'm following the guardian, because they're very good at relaying up to date information, but keeping it within the context of what is actually known14:34
daftykinsthat's where i pasted it from as it goes, perhaps the summaries are better than the live14:35
TwistedLucidityAm I wrong in thinking there's spate a spate of Airbuses have unplanned ground interfaces of late?14:36
TwistedLucidity"been a spate"14:36
diddledanunplanned ground interface. I like that description.14:37
SuperMattI don't think there is a particular manufacturer to blame14:37
daftykinseven if there were, it'd be more a point at the airline than the plane i'd think14:39
zmoylan-pior the sub contractor who repaired it14:40
SuperMattThe chance of it being terrorism is relatively high though. It's a Egyption flight, travelling from France, two things which have been targetted by (isis|isil|daesh) a lot recently14:41
zmoylan-pithe altitude rules out a missile as it takes a bit to get missile up there so would be spotted more than likely14:42
SuperMattsure, unlikely a missile14:43
SuperMattso it could be something in the hold, or a human intervention14:44
zmoylan-pifar more likely14:44
SuperMattthough I would have thought CDG would have better security than the Egyptian airports14:45
TwistedLucidityLots on people potential sympathetic towards terrorists flight-side. They revoked access for 60 in the previous security review14:51
SuperMattyeah, I was thinking that could be a possibility14:51
SuperMattI don't imagine baggage handlers are well paid, and it wouldn't take much for one to be able to stow something on a plane14:51
TwistedLucidityThis is why we need more education and to stop supporting despots14:52
SuperMattJC4PM!14:52
TwistedLucidityJulius Ceaser 4 Prime Minister?14:53
bashrcSuperMatt: how many planes crash due to aliens, and how many from other causes. The probability is that aliens were not involved.14:55
SuperMattI'm only talking terrorism at the moment because that's the direction experts appear to be looking right now14:56
bashrcs/aliens/terrorists14:56
foobarryhttp://www.relativelyinteresting.com/heres-what-the-bigfoot-patterson-gimlin-film-looks-like-when-its-stabilized/14:57
SuperMattI know what you're saying. I'm a little sceptical about it being terrorists, but the chance is still higher than it would have been for any other flight, just due to the Paris/Egypt connection - it's a big coincidence if not terrorism14:58
Seeker`I think it's probably better to wait until there are some facts, rather than going "it's probably terrorism"15:17
SuperMattagain, not what I said. I said the chance is *relatively higher* than normal due to some of the circumstances15:18
diddledanoracle are out of time17:24
diddledando they have a buzzer to tell them when to put their pens down?17:25
diddledanthat's it till Monday when they'll do the closing arguments17:43
SwitchesYep, Oracle are just sitting rubbing their hands now lol17:47
brmbrmcardo it18:43
brmbrmcaroh, unintended speech18:43
phablethi, can anyone help i cant install any apps on my bq m10 as my ubuntu one login keeps failing with network error18:45
MooDooevening all20:11
MooDoo:)20:11
zmoylan-pio/20:12
popeyhello20:14
bittin_hi20:14
* zmoylan-pi is currently trying to remember were i stashed my surplus wireless keyboards... tripping over them 3 months ago, now i need them and no where to be found20:15

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