[00:41] oh boy: https://twitter.com/SwiftOnSecurity/status/733094957448237056 [00:43] I like how they use the first three adapters even though they clearly had a ps2 port available next to the PSU [01:05] ;) [01:05] it didn't seem to be an exercise in functionality [06:43] Morningn peeps [06:43] g'morn \o [06:43] another plane lost :| [06:43] https://www.flightradar24.com/data/flights/ms804/#9c0b766 [06:49] Morning all [06:51] \o [07:33] Morning [07:34] \o [07:41] Heya daftykins, hows you? [07:43] morning boys and girls. [07:43] heyoooo o/ [07:43] hey brobostigon [07:43] all good here thanks Switches! pottering about today :) and thee? [07:44] Yeah not bad mate, just doing my usual, reading and drinking coffee :) [07:45] morning daftykins and Switches [07:45] same here! although my coffee seems to have evaporated [07:46] :o time for a refill then bud [07:46] >:) [08:09] wow dell completly disabled one finger scrolling on their drivers for windows [08:10] o0 [08:10] like the edge scroll zones? [08:10] maybe some generic drivers'd work if it is lacking in the settings, but it's all about two finger! [08:11] two finger suck [08:11] especially their implementation [08:11] it keeps bouncing back up the screen again [08:11] that's pretty common now, mmm [08:11] touchpad on my XPS13 is amazing under windows 10 :D [08:12] finally they catch up to Apple standard (i'm sad to admit) [08:12] oh wow [08:12] there's a hidden utility [08:12] :O [08:12] instead of delltouchpad.exe (the default tray icon) [08:13] there exists a delltpad.exe with the one finger stuff [08:13] one a need to know basis! [08:13] to do Windows right, you need a nice clean install without this crap [08:13] smells like a factory install to me :) [08:14] i did that i think [08:15] but installed some dell drivers to make all the ! go away [08:16] hrmm [08:16] must be contaminated! :> [08:19] Morning mortals [08:29] morning oh immortal god of the underworld, davmor2 [08:29] we offer un to you this sacrifice of foobarry [08:30] * daftykins helps prepare the sacrifice [08:30] SuperMatt: hahahaha [08:31] ..................)o) [08:31] YOU SHALL NOT FLEE THE WRATH OF THE GREAT ONE [08:31] foobarry: see how they pick on you [08:32] please believe me oh great tux, i have not used windows as my main desktop for 15 years [08:32] so the youtube scope on the phone list a new star trek tv series hmmmmmmmmm [08:32] i notice some sour grapes on behalf of omgubntun that they didn't get a review copy of the m10 tablet [08:32] indeedy! CBS trying again [08:33] keep carping on about bad reviews constantly [08:33] the best i could manage was an eyebrow raise in the style of Spock [08:33] daftykins: hahaha [08:34] foobarry: my guess is that they weren't sent a copy because the OEM were relying on a favourable review from them no matter what [08:34] Joey clearly saw through that [08:34] however clearly sour graps [08:34] no need to search out bad reviews [08:34] and keep mentining it [08:34] clearly won't be considered next time [08:35] to be honest, it looks like a dreadful device, so it should be panned [08:36] SuperMatt: more the fact that they were limited number of devices, and as an insider he already has two devices that are his not just on loan [08:36] awww no bash on win10 for me [08:36] y'gotta be running the latest insider preview [08:36] meh [08:36] foobarry: don't you need the developer version or something [08:37] that too [08:37] what daftykins said [08:37] i have build 10586 [08:37] good ol' stock [08:38] i only wanted windows for 2 apps [08:38] and 1 is n/a :( [08:38] so this is the song stuck in my head this morning https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dvgZkm1xWPE [08:38] is it the frankfurter song? [08:38] apps? o0 [08:38] foobarry: no [08:38] not available in my country [08:38] WAT. [08:39] daftykins: vmware vsphere client and Ubuntu on windows [08:39] or whats that song with the fat kid rama aaaa duma eee eee [08:40] https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=L9mojl_MBDg [08:40] thats the one [08:40] nooooo :P [08:41] i just read vsphere for Windows is getting canned, it's all going HTML5 only [08:41] foobarry: ^ what he said also I noticed they said there was a browser version [08:41] need it until web client is up to scratch [08:42] the workflow on the web client is unbelievably sucky [08:42] i remember playing with vmware server 1.x -> 2.0 and cringing at the web admin [08:42] everything hidden under related items [08:42] also keyboard shortcuts are the way to go in the client [08:43] mmm that would be a pain to go without [08:44] Good morning all! Happy Thursday, and happy Devil’s Food Cake Day! 😃 🎂 [08:44] ooh my that sounds like a good day [08:44] Yes, I definitely approve. [08:50] JamesTait: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fh9OzTL0iQc [09:52] numa numa guy made an updated version. it was terrible [10:00] It wasn't great to begin with [10:09] wow, in my head i thought you guys were talking about Non Uniform Memory Architecture [10:10] if only [10:11] instead we were discussing the scrapping of the bottom of the popular culture barrel [10:11] seeing that large chap sing certainly makes my memory non-uniform [10:56] reminder: change your LinkedIn passwords [10:56] won't matter, linked in will still find you... :-P [10:56] seems so! anyone that had an account in 2012 anyway [10:57] https://motherboard.vice.com/read/another-day-another-hack-117-million-linkedin-emails-and-password [10:58] Myrtti: Change you password 3 years ago [10:58] still doesn't hurt to change it again... [10:59] afternoon peepz [10:59] not yet [10:59] someone's a little premature [10:59] * knightwise is not in your timezone ! [11:00] now! [11:00] Stickler ! [11:00] maybe they're east of greenwich and calculating local time on sundial? [11:01] Me has a sundail wristwatch [11:01] I call it the "whatever-i-want-it-to-be-o'clock" [11:01] i always liked the personal sundials from animated around the world in 80 days [11:03] Myrtti: is there a list we can check of linkedin? [11:03] ? list , [11:03] leaked usernames [11:04] like searchable data he means [11:04] yeah [11:04] so you can find out if you got nobbled [11:04] Probably safest to assume "Yes" and change it [11:04] * TwistedLucidity hates LinkedIn [11:04] * knightwise lives by it [11:04] foobarry: I always just assume mine got leaked and change it anyway instead of possibly leaking more information [11:05] emails and encrypted passwords leaked [11:05] As this data set also originates from the 2012 hack, these passwords are encrypted in the same way – with “no salt” – meaning they are more easily cracked [11:05] knightwise: Too much spam from them, all I ever got was annoyance from recruiters; so I stripped all the data I could. Can't see the value in it. [11:05] so if i changed it after the 2012 hack i'm ok i guess [11:06] i'm a freelance consultant so .. its like the red light district for me [11:07] Ahhh....that would be different. [11:07] took me a while to get that comparison XD [11:08] daftykins: :) your innocence is charming [11:08] What I never understood about recruiters is why they ignore your preferences "Permi job, Central belt Scotlan"...can get repeated call with "Would you like a 3 month contract in London?" err...no [11:08] knightwise: nah i was just thinking "does knightwise mean as a customer or..." [11:08] the commute would be interesting... [11:08] daftykins: i'm a freelance consultant [11:09] ja but the red light bit [11:09] it's ok, all understood now :) [11:09] https://www.linkedin.com/in/hendriksjo [11:09] zmoylan-pi: No one could pay me enough to go back to London. Horrible place. [11:10] the fun the excitement and that's just finding a place to live that you can afford... [11:10] Barcelona? Yeah, that I would do in a heartbeat. But no hablo Espanol (or Catalan) [11:11] Sorry, missed the ñ there [11:11] :) [11:11] i'm popping down again through Malaga for a brief work trip [11:12] gotta set up a fancy WiMAX internet connection down there, very novel territory [11:13] daftykins: that is cool [11:14] daftykins: Fancy a trip North? Internet up there is shocking. [11:14] hehe, ah this is only as a consumer really. is BT's investment really low up where you are, or are you outside their net? [11:15] Outside I think, it's Telefonica-Movistar [11:15] could be pretty cool to be such a provider, although wireless tech is probably a bit scary to work with regularly [11:15] oh North Spain you meant? [11:15] Aye [11:15] my mistake, was thinking England/Scotland [11:16] That's a different problem. [11:16] * TwistedLucidity glowers at VirginMedia [11:16] amusingly my clients apparently lucky to have a wired landline, but they've had the ADSL service in there be down for weeks at a time O_O everything else in the area is this funky WiMAX from masts up on the hills [11:17] Yeah, that's pretty much my experience as well. Pay for 20Mb, get 1Mb if yer lucky. [11:17] utilities seem a bit third world in general really in Spain to me :S [11:18] i remember reading about the limited power consumption that Lester Haines fella from theregister.co.uk had in a place down there, and sure enough my client had the same situation - they couldn't run the AC at the same time as a hairdryer in their apartment before the current refurb :D [11:18] I can see the fibre getting laid but there appears to be (skirting close to stereotype here) a certain lack of work ethic [11:18] In all things [11:19] I paid for urgent shipping of an item - it took a month to get from Spain to the UK. [11:20] :/ [11:20] What is well set-up though it health care. Probably from all the conniptions people have trying to get a contractor to do their job! [11:22] good to know! looked like there could be some good downhill mountain biking down there [11:22] The ambulance drivers are all rally-cross competitors I think. They'll hit the forest trails and simply not slow down. [11:24] hahaha [11:25] come to think of it, i did say on my last trip that the southern spain look reminded me of colin mcrae rally gaming [11:33] http://quidsup.net/tutorials/?p=retrogame anyone tried this yet ? [11:35] knightwise: I've used RetroPi, which is another Emulation Station based thing [11:36] TwistedLucidity: i tried that on the pi [11:36] but now i would like to play some classics on the xps [11:37] define classics, pong, 8bit, 16bit, nintendo? [11:37] nintendo [11:37] some galaga and super mario [11:37] I seem to remember reading that the Kodi-devs were looking at adding better support for emulators etc [11:39] when I can play super mario on the xps with a gamepad i'm happy :) [11:42] * zmoylan-pi was just looking for some old program for my psion and found my zx spectrum emulator for it... :-) [11:42] it's a-me, maaaaario [11:44] I just love that stuff [11:44] I have a bunch of roms i found for my retropi project [11:45] Outrun , [11:45] green berret [11:45] shinobi :) [11:45] (c64 classics) [11:46] i keep tau ceti, jet pac, bomb jack around [11:55] https://archive.org/details/internetarcade [12:07] i got a peter rabbit 50p coin [12:07] apparently quite rare [12:07] rare rabbit.... mmmmm [12:12] foobarry: so do I! [12:13] paid £55 for it tho [12:13] i was usinght eself service and noticed it. [12:13] oh you got the colour one? [12:13] yeah [12:13] they are worth load now [12:13] tempted by the others but I think we'll pass [12:13] value will drop [12:13] I have an old G-Shock is is now (apparently) eye-wateringly expensive [12:14] Scared to wear the blasted thing! [12:14] Good morning peeps :) [12:14] Myrtti:£250+ ? [12:15] £15 more like [12:15] judging from eBay [12:15] i got the non colour one and wanted to keep it so had to put a £10 note in the machine to pay the last 10p of my breakfast [12:16] Myrtti: i see a lot of colour ones going for 250-350£ [12:16] the non colour is more like £2 [12:16] oh no, yes, 250 [12:16] completed sales too [12:16] gonna reconsider? [12:16] what, selling it? [12:17] yeah [12:17] that's quite the chunk of change [12:17] oh no. It's a present for a baby not born yet [12:17] aww [12:17] value in things that don't serve a purpose mystifies me [12:18] i.e "collectors edition" anything [12:18] daftykins: yeah we did spend a good amount of time considering would it be a good idea to buy it or not, but it's quite small in comparison to Toby jugs or Royal Doulton stuff [12:19] it's just nice to give something that's got a bit of value and a stamp of their birth year [12:19] I've got the Queen's Diamond Jubilee stamp on my engagement ring just for the sentimental value of having it [12:19] my wife loves BPotter [12:20] Barry Potter? :) [12:20] and my kids watch it all the time (the older bbc animated series with niamh cusack) [13:25] "Greek state-run TV is confirming that debris from the missing EgyptAir plane has been found 230 nautical miles west of the Mediterranean island of Crete" [13:25] erk [13:28] horrible but at least this time they found the plane... [13:28] indeed [13:28] and eventually most likely will find what caused it to come down [13:51] Anyone used https://taiga.io ? [14:32] daftykins: it's not been confirmed to be debris from the plane [14:32] but it's the best bet right now [14:33] yeah, i'm on one of those live update feeds so it changes constantly [14:34] I'm following the guardian, because they're very good at relaying up to date information, but keeping it within the context of what is actually known [14:35] that's where i pasted it from as it goes, perhaps the summaries are better than the live [14:36] Am I wrong in thinking there's spate a spate of Airbuses have unplanned ground interfaces of late? [14:36] "been a spate" [14:37] unplanned ground interface. I like that description. [14:37] I don't think there is a particular manufacturer to blame [14:39] even if there were, it'd be more a point at the airline than the plane i'd think [14:40] or the sub contractor who repaired it [14:41] The chance of it being terrorism is relatively high though. It's a Egyption flight, travelling from France, two things which have been targetted by (isis|isil|daesh) a lot recently [14:42] the altitude rules out a missile as it takes a bit to get missile up there so would be spotted more than likely [14:43] sure, unlikely a missile [14:44] so it could be something in the hold, or a human intervention [14:44] far more likely [14:45] though I would have thought CDG would have better security than the Egyptian airports [14:51] Lots on people potential sympathetic towards terrorists flight-side. They revoked access for 60 in the previous security review [14:51] yeah, I was thinking that could be a possibility [14:51] I don't imagine baggage handlers are well paid, and it wouldn't take much for one to be able to stow something on a plane [14:52] This is why we need more education and to stop supporting despots [14:52] JC4PM! [14:53] Julius Ceaser 4 Prime Minister? [14:55] SuperMatt: how many planes crash due to aliens, and how many from other causes. The probability is that aliens were not involved. [14:56] I'm only talking terrorism at the moment because that's the direction experts appear to be looking right now [14:56] s/aliens/terrorists [14:57] http://www.relativelyinteresting.com/heres-what-the-bigfoot-patterson-gimlin-film-looks-like-when-its-stabilized/ [14:58] I know what you're saying. I'm a little sceptical about it being terrorists, but the chance is still higher than it would have been for any other flight, just due to the Paris/Egypt connection - it's a big coincidence if not terrorism [15:17] I think it's probably better to wait until there are some facts, rather than going "it's probably terrorism" [15:18] again, not what I said. I said the chance is *relatively higher* than normal due to some of the circumstances [17:24] oracle are out of time [17:25] do they have a buzzer to tell them when to put their pens down? [17:43] that's it till Monday when they'll do the closing arguments [17:47] Yep, Oracle are just sitting rubbing their hands now lol [18:43] do it [18:43] oh, unintended speech [18:45] hi, can anyone help i cant install any apps on my bq m10 as my ubuntu one login keeps failing with network error [20:11] evening all [20:11] :) [20:12] o/ [20:14] hello [20:14] hi [20:15] * zmoylan-pi is currently trying to remember were i stashed my surplus wireless keyboards... tripping over them 3 months ago, now i need them and no where to be found