[00:00] <docmur> Meh, I'd rather kill it every X minutes and if people need to login again, they need to login again, it's not a big deal, it takes 20 seconds to login, and that way if they change the client connect from, it won't matter.
[00:00] <mrrtrump> nop
[00:01] <mrrtrump> hmmm
[00:01] <bekks> docmur: Fix your client's ssh clients.
[00:01] <docmur> We're obviously going to disagree, so it doesn't matter
[00:01] <mrrtrump> weird it stays for min the sets iself back
[00:01] <mrrtrump> fuuunky
[00:02] <bekks> docmur: Indeed. It doesnt matter. Open ssh sessions are nothing tobe worried about.
[00:02] <docmur> I would disagree, but it doesn't matter :), no worries!
[00:03] <cpyarger>  banana
[00:05] <nacc> mrrtrump: setting date to the wrong value relative to the system's timezone and ntp is fixing it?
[00:07] <thon> this is the only log I've been able to produce nacc: http://pastebin.com/eazczJgr
[00:07] <thon> fwiw
[00:08] <nacc> thon: did you add those debugging statements? i was saying adjust that function that is erroring out and add printfs or whatever
[00:08] <nacc> to see what it is trying to do and what is failing/why
[00:09] <thon> not yet. I was contacting the dev
[00:12] <Maynard> SO in software center I installed cpufreq but it doesn't show in the panel???
[00:12] <nicomachus> Maynard: you have to start it first.
[00:13] <Maynard> Total noob to ubuntu.... how do I start it?
[00:13] <nicomachus> from a terminal, type in "cpufreq", hit enter.
[00:14] <Maynard> command not found
[00:15] <Maynard> not showing as installed in software center either but when I go to all it has a green check mark
[00:16] <Ben64> Maynard: what exactly did you install and what do you expect it to do
[00:18] <Maynard> cpu freq.... it manages cpu Mhz.... for some reason in Ubuntu my processor is runnin 1400 not 1900
[00:18] <Maynard> it's underclocking my CPU
[00:18] <Ben64> "cpu freq" isn't a package
[00:19] <Ben64> and it's likely that the processor scales up when needed
[00:19] <Maynard> It is supposed to be a simple icon in panel click dropdown and change seettings
[00:20] <Ben64> you still haven't said what you installed
[00:20] <nacc> Maynard: as in the exact pacakge name; whatever of ubuntu as well?
[00:20] <Maynard> xfce4-cpufreq-plugin
[00:21] <nacc> Maynard: i believe you have to add that to your panel once it's installed?
[00:21] <nacc> Maynard: also, i don't believe that does *any* control
[00:21] <nacc> Maynard: it's purely informational about what your current cpu frequency is
[00:22] <Maynard> ROger...you're right.  I want something to adjust CPU clock etc.
[00:24] <nacc> Maynard: are you sure you're not just seeing the effects of a cpu governor? meaning that when your cpu is not busy, it's clocking down? if you peg the cpu, do you see the cpu mhz change?
[00:24] <Ben64> Maynard: you should really check to see if it scales up under load, there is no point in having the cpu at 100% during idle
[00:24] <nacc> Ben64 has you covered :)
[00:25] <Maynard> No I get that. It is a quad core with 16G and running like in was stock
[00:25] <Maynard> Thanks Ben64
[00:25] <Ben64> well you should check
[00:26] <Maynard> check how?
[00:27] <Ben64> run something that maxes out the cpu, check frequency
[00:28] <OerHeks> that provisioning happens in the kernel, the only use for those tools is to trottle back
[00:28] <Maynard> I forgot....what is the easy way to check that.... the command I mean.
[00:28] <scripteiro> Hello
[00:29] <kolaris> quit
[00:30] <OerHeks> Maynard, good start about renice & priority http://askubuntu.com/questions/656771/process-niceness-vs-priority
[00:35] <Roldan> I have a wing problem when decompress a .rar file, sends me an error saying "RAR encryption support unavailable"
[00:36] <xangua> Roldan: did you install rar, unrar or 7zip-full?
[00:36] <Roldan> xangua : i thought that Ubuntu come with XD
[00:37] <Roldan> Where i cand obtein it, in thesoftware center?
[00:37] <Roldan> xangua: Where i cand obtein it, in thesoftware center?
[00:38] <xangua> Roldan: yes
[00:39] <Maynard> OerHeks_ noob still trying to get a happy stable Studio 14.04 system here.  I read that page and it's all greek to me I need simple like a kid.
[00:39] <Roldan> xangua: Thanks!
[00:39] <futurama140> Hey, I have an issue here: currently everytime i want to play warcraft 1 in dosbox, i have to open dosbox, mount the folder and navigate to the folder and initialize the game all by command line. Is there a way i can script all that or create a shortcut to the game .exe that knows to open the game with dosbox or what?
[00:40] <xangua> Roldan: if you wanna skip time just install ubuntu-restricted-extras to add rar support, video and audio codecs, flash, fonts, etc.
[00:41] <debidi> futurama140: looks like there's a [autoexec] section at the endo of dosbox config file
[00:42] <futurama140> debidi: what does that mean in practice? i'm clueless
[00:43] <Roldan> xangua: i install "Ark" to descompress the file, but send methis "Ark was not able to open APSCC2014 (64bits) by urbina.rar. Failed to load a suitable plugin.  Make sure any executables needed to handle the archive type are installed."
[00:44] <xangua> Roldan: I never said you to install this "ark" did I?
[00:44] <xangua> Either install unrar or 7zip-full
[00:45] <debidi> futurama140: in a terminal issue the following: "gnome-text-editor ~/.dosbox/dosbox*.conf" <omit the quotes
[00:45] <Roldan> xangua: no, so how can i install ubuntu-restricted-extras?
[00:46] <xangua> Roldan: sudo apt-get install ubuntu-restricted-extras
[00:49] <futurama140> debidi: thank you
[00:50] <Roldan> xangua: and when its done just select "extract here"?
[00:51] <xangua> Roldan: try
[00:52] <Roldan> xangua: it works, thanks!!!!!!
[01:06] <ux2> Hdllo
[01:27] <obrazu> hi all
[01:30] <ROldan> Gparted dont let me make a partition
[01:32] <LambdaComplex> that's very unfortunate
[01:32] <LambdaComplex> does it give you an error message?
[01:32] <obrazu> on ubuntu server, what are the differences between the default "ubuntu" user and one I create using adduser besides sudoers
[01:33] <ROldan> i cant resize the HDD
[01:33] <LambdaComplex> ROldan: is it mounted?
[01:33] <Bashing-om> ROldan: 4 primary partition limit ? As there can only be a max of 4 in the legacy partitioning scheme ( one of which can  be a container to hold 128 additional logical partitions ) .
[01:34] <ROldan> LambdaComplex: How mounted?, its my central HDD
[01:34] <LambdaComplex> ROldan: are you trying to resize your / partition?
[01:35] <ROldan> LambdaComplex: yes
[01:35] <ROldan> LambdaComplex: i need to desmount it?
[01:36] <LambdaComplex> ROldan: well obviously you can't unmount your / partition
[01:36] <LambdaComplex> i'm not sure if gparted has any way of resizing a mounted partition
[01:36] <LambdaComplex> if you used a live cd/usb, you could do it from there
[01:36] <ROldan> LambdaComplex: jaja im new with this, Thaks!
[01:37]  * LambdaComplex doesn't even know if the ubuntu live cds have gparted installed
[01:37]  * LambdaComplex hopes someone who knows more about this will jump in
[01:37] <nicomachus> LambdaComplex: they do
[01:37] <LambdaComplex> figured. just wanted to be sure
[01:37] <ROldan> LambdaComplex: So what i need to do the partition?
[01:38] <LambdaComplex> ROldan: well, if you boot to a live cd, nothing. it should just let you resize it. but it won't let you resize it right now because it's in use
[01:39] <obrazu> on ubuntu server, what are the differences between the default "ubuntu" user and one I create using adduser besides sudoers
[01:39] <ROldan> LambdaComplex: entering with my USB and to try to start I can make the partition???
[01:42] <ROldan> LambdaComplex: entering with my USB (where I install ISO) and to try to start I can make the partition?
[01:42] <Ben64> obrazu: that's it
[01:42] <LambdaComplex> obrazu: i have no clue but i doubt there's many things you can change between two users. biggest difference is probably the groups they're in
[01:43] <LambdaComplex> ROldan: boot it in live mode so you get a desktop
[01:43] <LambdaComplex> ROldan: then run gparted
[01:43] <WARDEN> I am having an issue, please note my ISP does not block any ports. I am running ver 16.04. I have the servers ip setup as the only ip in the DMZ zone on the router. I have my domain (one of them, afnet.us) pointed to the correct IP address, and i have even gone so far as to disable the firewall on the server as well. however ever time i try to SSH in connection closes saying connection refused,
[01:43] <WARDEN> any advice?
[01:43] <obrazu> Ben64: one thing for example when I'm logged into ubuntu and I do a sudo command, it doesn't re-prompt for the password, my new user does
[01:43] <ROldan> LambdaComplex: live mode?
[01:43] <Ben64> obrazu: newly created users can't use sudo by default
[01:44] <obrazu> Ben64: I've added my new user to the sudoers list, but it still prompts for my password and then successfully executes the command
[01:44] <Ben64> WARDEN: ssh in from where
[01:44] <WARDEN> I can however successfully SSH in on my LAN
[01:45] <WARDEN> Ben64: externally
[01:45] <Ben64> obrazu: you shouldn't add user to the sudoers file, add them to sudo group
[01:45] <LambdaComplex> ROldan: sounds right
[01:45] <Ben64> WARDEN: because i'm seeing port 22 open on that domain
[01:45] <Ben64> WARDEN: so it sounds like you're hitting the wrong ip
[01:45] <WARDEN> hmm
[01:45] <LambdaComplex> WARDEN: Have you checked the sshd_config file?
[01:46] <obrazu> ben64: after the newuser was created i ran the following command "sudo adduser NewUser sudo
[01:46] <LambdaComplex> Perhaps it's disabled for that user from an external ip?
[01:46] <samuel_> alguem e BR aqui
[01:46] <WARDEN> try ip 97.80.85.239
[01:46] <LambdaComplex> Perhaps password authentication is disabled?
[01:46] <Ben64> WARDEN: yep works
[01:46] <WARDEN> hmmm well ill be
[01:46] <samuel_> @list
[01:46] <samuel_> #list
[01:46] <LambdaComplex> WARDEN: yep, 22 is up on that
[01:46] <Ben64> samuel_: no
[01:47] <WARDEN> Ben64 may i pm you for a moment?
[01:47] <Ben64> ok
[01:47] <LambdaComplex> WARDEN: although i should point out that leaving sshd on port 22 is a tad risky
[01:47] <SchrodingersScat> WARDEN: could it be because you're from inside the lan?
[01:47] <samuel_> se tive algum brasileiro ou brasileira pm
[01:47] <SchrodingersScat> !br | samuel_
[01:48] <wolftune> hey guys - after uninstalling zsh, I can't login. I tried to re-enable bash from root with chsh -s /bin/bash user but I get the error chsh: cannot lock /etc/passwd; try again later.... Anyone have any suggestions please?
[01:49] <LambdaComplex> wolftune: does something have the passwd or shadow file open?
[01:49] <LambdaComplex> wolftune: if no, are there lock files existent? such as /etc/passwd.lock or /etc/shadow.lock
[01:50] <wolftune> LambdaComplex: Im only in recovery mode as root but ill check
[01:50] <ROldan> LambdaComplex: how can i do that?
[01:51] <LambdaComplex> ROldan: do what, exactly?
[01:52] <ROldan> LambdaComplex: boot it in live mode
[01:52] <wolftune> LambdaComplex: I see shadow and shadow-, as well passwd and passwd- but no lock
[01:52] <ROldan> LambdaComplex: do u speak spanish?
[01:53] <obrazu> On Ubuntu Server, I'm trying to create an identical user to the default "ubuntu" (not prompting for a password upon sudo, and all the same permissions)
[01:53] <LambdaComplex> ROldan: poorly
[01:53] <LambdaComplex> ROldan: pretty sure this channel has an "english only" rule, regardless
[01:53] <Ben64> obrazu: the default ubuntu does prompt for a password
[01:54] <ROldan> LambdaComplex: how can i boot in live mode?
[01:54] <LambdaComplex> wolftune: are there _any_ files that end in .lock in /etc/ ?
[01:54] <ROldan> LambdaComplex: exist an spanish chanel?
[01:54] <obrazu> Ben64: it only prompts for the password upon initial login to the system, once connected it never re-prompts for a password when i run sudo commands
[01:54] <LambdaComplex> !es | ROldan
[01:54] <Ben64> obrazu: that is not standard behavior
[01:54] <_surferdude> hi, has anyone been able to successfully build/install drivers for a Realtek R8168 NIC on 16.04 LTS?
[01:55] <wolftune> LambdaComplex: there .pwd.lock
[01:55] <Ben64> _surferdude: don't need to build or install, they're in the kernel
[01:55] <obrazu> Ben64: It's a fresh install of Ubuntu Server 16.04 on a Raspi2
[01:56] <wolftune> LambdaComplex: and theres mtab.fuselock
[01:56] <Ben64> obrazu: then you might want to check #ubuntu-arm or #raspberrypi or something
[01:56] <obrazu> Ben64: will do
[01:58] <_surferdude> ben64: i wish it was that easy. I see my NIC in the network connections menu but it doesn't show link
[01:58] <_surferdude> in 15.04 I had to download the realtek drivers and build them from source
[01:59] <Ben64> _surferdude: what module is loaded for it? (lsmod)
[01:59] <_surferdude> r8169
[01:59] <_surferdude> lspci says i have an r8168
[01:59] <WARDEN> SchrodingersScat: Upon speaking with Ben64 i believe this to be the issue.
[02:00] <LambdaComplex> wolftune: Hm, I think it may be that .pwd.lock file
[02:00] <SchrodingersScat> WARDEN: what do I win?
[02:00] <Ben64> _surferdude: can you do "sudo modprobe r8168"
[02:00] <SchrodingersScat> WARDEN: j/k, glad you figured it out
[02:01] <WARDEN> SchrodingersScat: lol idk million dollars???
[02:01] <_surferdude> says r8168 not found in /lib/modules/4.4.0-21-generic
[02:01] <WARDEN> SchrodingersScat: eh make it a billion wth right?
[02:02] <ipatrol> wut?
[02:02] <Ben64> _surferdude: then time to install the package "r8168-dkms" and get that module compiled
[02:03] <wolftune> LambdaComplex: thanks, but it says it's read-only, is there a thing I need to do to get to root without mounting as ro ?
[02:03] <ROldan> LambdaComplex: theres no one
[02:03] <ROldan> LambdaComplex: how can i boot in live mode?, for made the partition
[02:04] <LambdaComplex> wolftune: oh, yeah. recovery mode. it probably is ro right now actually
[02:04] <LambdaComplex> wolftune: check by running ''mount''
[02:04] <LambdaComplex> (''mount | grep ext4'' will probably do it if it's ext4)
[02:05] <LambdaComplex> if it is then you need to remount it as rw
[02:05] <LambdaComplex> ROldan: what are the options when you boot to the ubuntu usb?
[02:06] <wolftune> LambdaComplex: yeah it says (rw,errors=remount-ro)
[02:06] <wolftune> LambdaComplex: so how do I get it to rw?
[02:07] <Bashing-om> ROldan: The term 'live' is when you boot up the install medium that contains a desk top om the "try ubuntu" mode .
[02:07] <LambdaComplex> wolftune: ...it says rw
[02:07] <wolftune> LambdaComplex: I was trying to mv the lock file to a temporary new name, should I try rm ? Is it safe to remove the .lock ?
[02:10] <ROldan> LambdaComplex: Try or install
[02:10] <wolftune> LambdaComplex: it seems because of the errors part it might be mounted as ro ?
[02:10] <wolftune> or no?
[02:11] <LambdaComplex> wolftune: what was the error that mv was giving you?
[02:11] <LambdaComplex> wolftune: and it's safe if you're sure nothing is actually accessing the passwd/shadow files
[02:11] <LambdaComplex> ROldan: try
[02:11] <wolftune> LambdaComplex: it said "Read-only file system" and nothing else is running at all besides this recovery session
[02:11] <ROldan> LambdaComplex: but in try mode i can use gparted?
[02:12] <auzty> i got these case, "user1 need to write to specific folder that owned by user2" but when i using group , the file that writed by user1 have the user1 permission, so user2 cannot delete it, "
[02:13] <LambdaComplex> wolftune: ...Why are you in recovery mode, anyways?
[02:13] <LambdaComplex> ROldan: yes
[02:13] <wolftune> LambdaComplex: I didn't otherwise know how to get to *any* shell because my user has zsh as shell but it's been removed
[02:13] <LambdaComplex> wolftune: what about root?
[02:13] <wolftune> will try again
[02:14] <ROldan> LambdaComplex: ok im gonna try, thanks!
[02:14] <LambdaComplex> oh, wait, ubuntu disables root by default. gg
[02:14] <LambdaComplex> wolftune: but if you enabled the root account and its shell is bash........
[02:15] <Ben64> wolftune: you can remount it rw
[02:15] <wolftune> LambdaComplex: how would I enable root if the only way to get logged into any shell is recovery mode?
[02:15] <wolftune> Ben64: okay, I can do that in recovery mode?
[02:16] <Ben64> yep
[02:16] <wolftune> Ben64: or do you know another way to get to root other than recovery?
[02:16] <Ben64> also yep
[02:16] <wolftune> Ben64: oh okay, how?
[02:16] <Ben64> but since you're in recovery now, just use that
[02:16] <wolftune> Ben64: I already left recovery, but I can go back
[02:16] <Ben64> its the easiest
[02:17] <wolftune> recovery is easiest?
[02:17] <Anastasia19> No
[02:17] <LambdaComplex> auzty: does setting g+w on the file fix this?
[02:17] <Ben64> yeah it's not called recovery for nothing
[02:17] <wolftune> Ben64: okay how do I mount as rw ?
[02:18] <Ben64> mount -o remount,rw /dev/null /
[02:19] <auzty> yes LambdaComplex , but when the user2 create directory / file, the owner become user2:user2 , and user1 didn't have any right to delete it
[02:20] <LambdaComplex> auzty: try setting g+w on the directory
[02:20] <LambdaComplex> i think that'll change the default permissions of files created in it
[02:21] <LambdaComplex> or maybe i'm wrong
[02:22] <wolftune> LambdaComplex: I'm back!! Thanks SO much! Ben64 thanks
[02:23] <dax> ubottu: nickspam | jq-
[02:23] <LambdaComplex> auzty: oh, here we go. ''setfacl -d -m g::rw /path/to/directory/''
[02:23] <LambdaComplex> auzty: that'll make any file created in the directory have g+rw by default
[02:24] <LambdaComplex> might also wanna look into the use of the sgid bit
[02:24] <auzty> wow, thanks LambdaComplex :) that i mean, thanks a lot :)
[02:25] <e-vent> Anyone know why the coretemp module would be missing on an Intel Atom based ubuntu system?
[02:25] <e-vent> Lm-sensors is a bit useless without it
[02:26] <juanmapalad> !ping
[02:26] <nicomachus> lol
[02:26] <LambdaComplex> auzty: yeah, it could be worth looking into setfacl and getfacl. facl is "file access control list," which is basically a way around the shortcomings of the standard unix permissions
[02:27] <nicomachus> e-vent: what's the ubuntu version and kernel version?
[02:27] <e-vent> Uname -a = 4.4.0-22-generic #40-Ubuntu SMP Thu May 12 22:03:46 UTC 2016 x86_64 x86_64 x86_64 GNU/Linux
[02:27] <juanmapalad> i am about to start exploring ubuntu. any advice on materials for beginner? currently donwloaded ubuntu for desktop
[02:27] <e-vent> Should be in 16.04
[02:27] <LambdaComplex> auzty: since of course when you decide that every single user has to fall into one of only three categories....it's kinda restricting at times
[02:28] <e-vent> Yup, it is 16.04, the CPU is a  Intel(R) Atom(TM) CPU D2550
[02:28] <LambdaComplex> juanmapalad: 1. is this your first linux distro? 2. i should probably say something along the lines of "this is a support channel and therefore this discussion is more appropriate for #ubuntu-discuss"
[02:28] <nicomachus> LambdaComplex++
[02:28] <nicomachus> also:
[02:29] <nicomachus> !manual | juanmapalad
[02:29] <juanmapalad> LambdaComplex, yes
[02:29] <e-vent> nicomachus, I have a feeling that it missing might be indicative of no support for the CPU. Which is amusing given the wifi card has a working temp sensor showing.
[02:30] <e-vent> Bit odd though.
[02:30] <sgronblo> ducasse: Btw, the compute stick worked perfectly for HD videos as long as they were in the right format (h264)
[02:31] <LambdaComplex> juanmapalad: yeah, join #ubuntu-discuss and ask there
[02:31] <nicomachus> e-vent: I wanna say it's probably a kernel bug. has it worked before?
[02:31] <e-vent> Not to my knowledge.
[02:31] <e-vent> Elsewhere the web seems to be indicating a lack of support for a lot of Atom based stuff
[02:31] <LambdaComplex> e-vent: just to make sure, the cpu _does_ actually have a built-in sensor, right?
[02:31] <e-vent> but those are dated 8 years ago in some cases.
[02:32] <e-vent> LambdaComplex, I don't believe there has been any CPU made in the last decade without one.
[02:32] <e-vent> Of any type, in any hardware from any manufacturer.
[02:33] <LambdaComplex> no idea! just a thought
[02:33] <e-vent> Pretty much all modern ones have thermal throttling built in, even my old crappy semprons had a thermal cutout!
[02:33] <e-vent> :)
[02:34] <nicomachus> e-vent: the only thing I'm finding is 6-7 year old bug reports from Jaunty.
[02:34] <e-vent>  modprobe coretemp
[02:34] <e-vent>  = modprobe: FATAL: Module coretemp not found in directory /lib/modules/4.4.0-22-generic
[02:34] <e-vent> It's also missing in the previous kernel
[02:37] <nicomachus> e-vent: well, check in /lib/modules/4.4.0-22-generic/kernel/drivers/hwmon/ and see if "coretemp.ko" is there.
[02:37] <e-vent> There is no hwmon directory.
[02:37] <e-vent> Told you it was odd.
[02:38] <nicomachus> uhhh. what
[02:38] <nicomachus> apt-get update && apt-get upgrade && apt-get dist-upgrade
[02:39] <mr2> :)
[02:40] <e-vent> Nearly finished install the dist upgrade stuff
[02:41] <piercedwater> which version are you upgrading from?
[02:42] <piercedwater> I'm on 14.04 and I'm thinking of going to 16.04
[02:42] <nicomachus> 16.04, 4.4.0-22
[02:42] <e-vent> Last LTS release
[02:42] <piercedwater> oh
[02:42] <nicomachus> piercedwater: wait until July 21st.
[02:42] <e-vent> 14.04 to 16.04, so far so good.
[02:42] <piercedwater> why nicomachus
[02:42] <nicomachus> piercedwater: because that's when the upgrade path for 14.04 -> 16.04 is released.
[02:42] <piercedwater> oh ok
[02:42] <piercedwater> ty
[02:43] <nicomachus> !LTSupgrade
[02:43] <piercedwater> nice
[02:45] <WARDEN> So, can connect/login via ssh to my server running 16.04, via domain/ip externally, however internally cannot get error of "Network error: Connection refused" server LAN ip is in DMZ zone, all firewalls disabled
[02:45] <WARDEN> any ideas?
[02:45] <SchrodingersScat> thought you figured out it was because you're inside the lan :P
[02:46] <WARDEN> SchrodingersScat: But the billion dollar question is how do i get it so i can connect to external ip/domain from inside the lan?
[02:46] <WARDEN> i have no problem sshing from internal lan ip to internal lan ip
[02:46] <WARDEN> we ruled a few things out, but still have this one issue
[02:46] <SchrodingersScat> so why no do that? or change your /etc/hosts to point to the one inside the lan?
[02:47] <WARDEN> SchrodingersScat: Also for clairification, i am on a win10 system at the moment
[02:47] <WARDEN> even though for the record im not fond of windows
[02:48] <SchrodingersScat> I'm sure even windows has a hosts somewhere.
[02:48] <WARDEN> do you think there may be a setting amiss somewhere?
[02:49] <WARDEN> on the windows system that is
[02:49] <SchrodingersScat> WARDEN: I was trying to navigate around the problem, if that's not what you want then I'll let you be.
[02:49] <WARDEN> i was just curious on your thoughts, i am in fact looking for windows equiv of hosts file
[02:50] <jorhell> hey whatcha
[02:53] <Sebastien> so, im trying to find a way to make subdomains on my vps, so for example freenode.net/paste would be reached with paste.freenode.net
[02:53] <Sebastien> running latest ubuntu
[02:54] <WARDEN> Windows host file equiv is at C:\Windows\System32\Drivers\etc\
[02:55] <Sebastien> O_o
[02:59] <e-vent> Yeah so that "update" just uninstalled my DHCP server
[02:59] <e-vent> wtf
[03:00] <e-vent> It also appears to have disabled the keyboards too
[03:00] <e-vent> Upon generating the new boot init it cut me off
[03:01] <e-vent> zfs module
[03:01] <e-vent> I expect it to now cut me off again
[03:02] <e-vent> Any idea why a kernel regen for zfs would crash the machine?
[03:04] <e-vent> jesus christ what the hell did this update do to isc-dhcp-server
[03:07] <leonoel> hi guys during install I click on the auto login, but my user is not auto login at startup, any ideas on how to fix this please?
[03:10] <WARDEN> Will be back in a little bit
[03:10] <Sebastien> WARDEN-temp-away, no need to use /nick for away, use /away
[03:11] <somsip> !away (actually)
[03:11] <somsip> !away| (actually)
[03:11] <somsip> Sebastien: sorry - that says what you said. I thought it was different :)
[03:12] <Sebastien> https://freenode.club/irc-behavior.html
[03:12] <Sebastien> this is even better ^ :)
[03:13] <WARDEN-temp-away> i also did that because i forgot what email i used with WARDEN nickserv registration and cant ret password
[03:13] <WARDEN-temp-away> tty in a bit
[03:13] <e-vent> nicomachus, now I have unbuggered my DHCP server
[03:13] <e-vent> still no hwmon
[03:15] <slima> Hi, I have a problem. I need bind9 with dlz-mysql, so I get source via apt, in debian/rules I'm added option, but when I do dpkg-buildpackage it's fail because of 'mysql.h: No such file' mysql.h is in /usr/include/mysql/ How can I add CPPFLAGS to dpkg-buildpackage?
[03:17] <e-vent> brb
[03:17] <e-vent> need to check a reboot wont nuke my gateway
[03:18] <walrider> hii
[03:18] <walrider> :)
[03:19] <walrider> wc wc aLL
[03:20] <walrider> ce manoj da
[03:20] <Mac3lite> -=Help=- I am trying to triple boot my MacBook Pro with Ubuntu, Windows 10 and OS X 10.10 - I booted to USB Linux to install using rEFInd as my boot manager...going through the Ubuntu Install I hit a BootLoader install failed..
[03:20] <walrider> wc klow
[03:21] <lasindi> Hi all, does anyone here use mpi4py on Ubuntu (or potentially another Linux distro)? For me, running "from mpi4py import MPI" crashes python with a bunch of errors: https://bpaste.net/show/82a93eaa6835 From what I can tell it's something to do with the mpi4py install but would like to know if someone has a way to use Ubuntu's package of it.
[03:21] <Mac3lite> Is a BootLoader the same as Bootmanager? Because I already have rEFInd alread installed and working, so can I continue Linux install without BootLoader?
[03:21] <walrider> i think boot manager is to manage edit those boot loader
[03:21] <walrider> nigga
[03:23] <Mac3lite> I'm going to try completing install without BootLoader and see if I can launch Linux from the bootmanager
[03:24] <debidi> xManger, xSupervisor, xHypervisor all this abstraction just makn everything needlessly convoluted
[03:24] <Mac3lite> Is there a better chat room for setting up MacBook Pro' with Linux?
[03:25] <walrider> dnt know
[03:25] <walrider> maybe its there
[03:30] <Mac3lite> Well Ubuntu installed successfully - but rEFInd isn't recognizing that Linux is installed...maybe I have to reconfigure it somehow
[03:32] <Bashing-om> !mac | Mac3lite Maybe help here ?
[03:35] <Mac3lite> I'll check that in a second - I just tried REinstalling rEFInd via OSX to see if it picks up the Linux Partition this time...which I think it just did
[03:36] <Mac3lite> yes it did!
[03:36] <Mac3lite> now to see if Ubuntu will fully boot! fingers crossed....so far so good
[03:37] <relyks> er
[03:38] <Mac3lite> hmm it's just at a (initramfs)_ now... Gave up waiting for root device.
[03:48] <unicornjedi> hey folks. Can someone help me choose which services to disable on BUM. My boot-up time is supah slow
[03:48] <nkowdley> Hey guys, anyone know why the terminal colors look different between ubuntu and linux mint?  My bashrc has become violently pink since changing
[03:49] <abortedbaby> hi darrenwu
[03:50] <unicornjedi> nkowdley, oooh pink is da color of love. Your terminal is trying to say something.
[03:50] <unicornjedi> nkowdley, mess with the profile setting located in the header menu
[03:50] <Bashing-om> unicornjedi: http://www.dedoimedo.com/computers/systemd-blame.html Isolate booting isaues .
[03:51] <unicornjedi> Bashing-om, ooh... I guess this issue is gonna take some time to resolve... :| Well time to readddd
[03:52] <donofrio> where would I find the netinstall for 16.04?
[03:52] <darrenwu> abortedbaby, hi
[03:52] <nkowdley> unicornjedi: perfect!  Thanks!
[03:52] <abortedbaby> darrenwu: they can't keep a baby down
[03:52] <Bashing-om> unicornjedi: That is systemd tutorial .
[03:52] <unicornjedi> donofrio, use the key words on google: 'Ubuntu Alternate Install'
[03:53] <donofrio> alt is 700+ mb I need the cdrom not dvd
[03:53] <unicornjedi> nkowdley, Oh you're welcome buddy!
[03:53] <unicornjedi> donofrio, one sec
[03:54] <Bashing-om> donofrio: http://cdimage.ubuntu.com/netboot/xenial/ ; https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Installation/MinimalCD .
[03:54] <obrazu> I want to setup a static IP on my Server 16.04, unlike all the tutorials i've found so far my /etc/network/interfaces file has an extra section ...interfaces may have been defined in interfaces.d/*.cfg I tried to edit the .d/*.cfg file in but it didn't take
[03:54] <unicornjedi> donofrio, download mini.iso
[03:55] <donofrio> k
[03:55] <donofrio> tnx
[03:58] <unicornjedi> Bashing-om, good gawd, I was reading the page and I did systemd-analyze plot > /tmp/plot.svg and I opened up the image and itss huuuuuuuuuge
[03:59] <unicornjedi> 32535 x 7290 pixels.. Lord have mercy
[04:00] <unicornjedi> Bashing-om, start-up finished in 11.605s*kernel) + 5min 12.948s (userspace) = 5min 24.554s
[04:01] <Bashing-om>  unicornjedi A lot of info .
[04:06] <rhorse> does Unity support moving a window to the next workplace by dragging it to the edge?
[04:07] <obrazu> How to set static IP in Server 16.04 involving /etc/network/interfaces.d/50-cloud-init.cfg
[04:08] <lotuspsychje> rhorse: you can drag windows to another workspace yes
[04:08] <rhorse> lotuspsychje: on my screen, dragging it to the edge just maximizes it in some way...
[04:09] <obrazu> rhorse: maybe upper left corner?
[04:09] <lotuspsychje> rhorse: oh, you need to use your workspaces icon first, then drag the window to the next
[04:09] <lotuspsychje> rhorse: works when you see all 4 workspaces
[04:10] <rhorse> lotuspsychje: pretty cool. I was hoping it could do the fluxbox thing...
[04:10] <lotuspsychje> rhorse: perhaps with ccsm?
[04:11] <rhorse> lotuspsychje: ok. Do you know the shortcut key for the workspace icon..?
[04:11] <lotuspsychje> rhorse: not out of head sorry, i use the icon itself on the launcher
[04:12] <lotuspsychje> !shortcuts | rhorse
[04:13] <rhorse> lotuspsychje: Thank you
[04:20] <Tednash> hello gents
[04:21] <lotuspsychje> Tednash: welcome, what can we do for you?
[04:22] <Tednash> i just installed ubuntu on a raspberry pi 3. i'm trying to get quake 3 to run on it, following this set of instructions: https://www.raspberrypi.org/forums/viewtopic.php?f=78&t=18853
[04:22] <nisqually> I just came in to watch, and learn
[04:22] <lotuspsychje> !arm | Tednash
[04:22] <Tednash> k
[04:23] <lotuspsychje> nisqually: good idea, there is also #ubuntu-offtopic and #ubuntu-discuss if you like
[04:23] <nisqually> Can it get interesting.
[04:23] <lotuspsychje> yes
[04:23] <nisqually> Ty
[04:26] <nisqually> Just a quick question...   Is Ubuntu working in the Arm arena?
[04:26] <somsip> !arm | nisqually
[04:26] <obrazu> nisqually: i'm running server 16.04 on a raspi2
[04:26] <nisqually> Cool
[04:27] <lotuspsychje> nisqually: alot is being worked on, see also #snappy perhaps
[04:27] <[Saint]> The ARM Arena. Two SoCs go in, only one comes out.
[04:27] <nisqually> I am writing some of this down.  before my head forgets.
[04:28] <obrazu> Weird issue, I set a static IP in /etc/network/interfaces and that ip works, but ifconfig still shows my dhcp address, and it also still works. how do i fix this?  (server 16.04)
[04:29] <gde33> funny, I forget how I enabled middle click scroll in firefox but it gets stuck scrolling
[04:30] <[Saint]> DHCP reservation tables made me super lazy on the static ip client side front.
[04:32] <nisqually> join #ubuntu
[04:32] <obrazu> [Saint], this seems to be a new issue/layout with 16.04
[04:32] <nicomachus> nisqually: you're already here, friend.
[04:33] <[Saint]> obrazu: dunno - I do all my static adressing with DHCP reservation tables since years ago
[04:33] <[Saint]> just sharing an anecdote, sorry.
[04:33] <nisqually> k..
[04:34] <nisqually> join #ubuntu-offtopic
[04:34]  * [Saint] hands nisqually some /'s
[04:35] <syntax_> Hi. I was wondering if anyone could help me out with a problem I have been having with installing wine1.7? I keep getting a particular error message which, after googling, I have not been able to resolve. I am using Ubuntu 13.04. After running "sudo apt-get install wine1.7" I get this output: http://paste.ubuntu.com/16503755/
[04:36] <lotuspsychje> syntax_: its recommended to use package versions, specific for your ubuntu version
[04:36] <lotuspsychje> !latest | syntax_
[04:36] <Bashing-om> !raring | syntax_
[04:36] <gde33> I've found the about:config for autoscroll but if I disable that middle click loads urls from clip board in the current tab
[04:37] <syntax_> lotuspsychje: I've been able to install wine1.4 and wine1.6 but not wine1.7. My problem is that the program that I want to run apparently only works on 1.7
[04:37] <syntax_> lotuspsychje: thanks for your help. Is your advice to update my version of ubuntu before trying to install wine1.7?
[04:39] <gde33> ah middlemouse.contentLoadURL, ok.. nmv
[04:40] <Joaquin-V> does xeyes serve an actual... purpose?
[04:40] <lotuspsychje> syntax_: no, using the wine version for your ubuntu version
[04:40] <Joaquin-V> all I've seen it useful for is to do this: https://a.pste.pw/NZR.png
[04:40] <lotuspsychje> syntax_: if your program doesnt work on current wine, please file a new bug
[04:41] <[Saint]> syntax_: though you probably should be wanting to get off eol ubuntu anyway
[04:41] <lotuspsychje> Joaquin-V: eyes follow your mouse
[04:42] <syntax_> lotuspsychje: ok. thanks. Is it possible - while not recommended - to use a version of wine that is not for 13.04?
[04:42] <Joaquin-V> lotuspsychje: yes, but does it actually have any applications in which it'd be useful?
[04:42] <lotuspsychje> syntax_: first do what [Saint] advised
[04:42] <Joaquin-V> so far it's only been the butt of every Linux joke
[04:42] <Joaquin-V> from what I've seen
[04:43] <lotuspsychje> Joaquin-V: does the manpage show you anything usefull?
[04:43] <Joaquin-V> "Xeyes watches what you do and reports to the Boss."
[04:43] <[Saint]> bm nnnnnnnnnnbndfcv
[04:43] <[Saint]> bah - sorry. kitten.
[04:43] <syntax_> lotuspsychje: thanks for your help. Have a good night! :)
[04:43] <Joaquin-V> come on, even the manpage is jokes
[04:44] <lotuspsychje> Joaquin-V: some linux packages are meant to laugh...like cowsay
[04:44] <Joaquin-V> lotuspsychje: oh
[04:44] <lotuspsychje> Joaquin-V: depends your idea of 'usefull'
[04:44] <Joaquin-V> just wondering if there's any way in which one would say "oh, I could use xeyes"
[04:44] <lotuspsychje> Joaquin-V: perhaps someone found this real usefull, who knows :p
[04:45] <[Saint]> I like 'sl'
[04:45] <michael_p> hi
[04:46] <michael_p> took me serveral versions on ubuntu to get steam working i have it working under 14.04
[04:48] <mac3lite> Anyone ever have Firefox just not work in Ubuntu? Launch it and it just shows a black page completely?\
[04:49] <michael_p> i use chrome
[05:08] <Archeus_> hey ppl
[05:10] <Archeus_> can someone tell me how to follow the 7th step of http://www.newerth.com/smf/index.php/topic,17598.0.html ?
[05:10] <Archeus_> i have Intel Corporation Haswell-ULT Integrated Graphics Controller
[05:11] <macopython> Can anyone tell me the location of history command ?. I don't get anything in "which  history"
[05:11] <Wulf> macopython: it's a bash builtin
[05:11] <macopython> Wulf: Ohk. Got it
[05:11] <macopython> So it means I can't modify it. right ?
[05:12] <Wulf> macopython: what are you trying to do and why?
[05:13] <Archeus_> can someone tell me how to follow the 7th step of http://www.newerth.com/smf/index.php/topic,17598.0.html ?
[05:13] <Wulf> Archeus_: no
[05:13] <Archeus_> i have Intel Corporation Haswell-ULT Integrated Graphics Controller
[05:13] <Archeus_> <-- __Nautilus__ has quit (Ping timeout: 260 seconds) atm
[05:13] <Wulf> Archeus_: find a guide for your graphics card
[05:13] <Wulf> Archeus_: and check if you can actually use it for 3d
[05:14] <Archeus_> ah
[05:14] <Archeus_> i dont know anything about my graphic card
[05:14] <macopython> Wulf: Basically I want to create my own history command
[05:14] <macopython> Which can log timestamp too
[05:15] <macopython> I was looking for bash hooks too but didn't find much in that area
[05:15] <Archeus_> should i use this https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DCrkDJjhw_k ?
[05:16] <Wulf> macopython: why?
[05:16] <Wulf> macopython: is "script" what you're looking for?
[05:17] <macopython> Wulf: yes. I want to view it on browser on some other system and sort it etc
[05:17] <macopython> Wulf: Not exactly a "script"
[05:20] <somsip> macopython: watch the real history file, and create a new entry in your history file with a timestamp when something is add. Libnotify IIRC
[05:21] <somsip> *added, and inotifywait not libnotify
[05:21] <Wulf> somsip: ~/.history is only written when I exit my shell
[05:21] <Wulf> +bash_
[05:22] <somsip> Wulf: so it is. Oh well
[05:22] <somsip> macopython: man history - loads of stuff in there and some of it might be useful
[05:23] <macopython> somsip: Thanks
[05:23] <macopython> Wulf: I'll surely look into libnotify
[05:24] <Tommy2> helllo, how do you get a program to run automatically at startup (it is not in the repo, just from a tar.xz)
[05:24] <Tommy2> i read, that you need to edit "/etc/rc.local"
[05:26] <Tommy2> e.g.  the way i run the FOO program now is:  cd ~/bin/FOO  && sudo ./FOO
[05:28] <plytro> Tommy2: https://unix.stackexchange.com/questions/202698/how-can-i-run-a-program-as-a-root-user-when-my-ubuntu-15-04-machine-starts-up
[05:29] <plytro> assuming you are a 15.xx or greater
[05:30] <Nene1> hello all
[05:31] <Tommy2> plytro, thanks! do i have to move FOO to this folder? /usr/local/bin/ ?
[05:31] <Ben64> Tommy2: what is foo
[05:31] <Nene1> i updated the kernel on my ubuntu machine, and i didnt reboot the machine. so my machine is still pointing to old kernel... but i want latest kernel version which i applied...
[05:32] <Ben64> Nene1: reboot.
[05:32] <Nene1> how to get it before reboot
[05:32] <Nene1> Ben64: before rebooot****
[05:32] <Tommy2> ben, FOO is just program that i downloaded from a tar.xz
[05:32] <Ben64> Nene1: you need to reboot, that's how it works, you can't boot off a kernel when you're already booted from another kernel
[05:32] <Ben64> Tommy2: right, but what is it
[05:32] <Tommy2> oh, a VPN
[05:33] <Ben64> openvpn or something wouldn't work?
[05:33] <Ben64> kind of weird having to run something as sudo each boot
[05:36] <[Saint]> workaround for not bothering to grab the right group access?
[05:36] <Tommy2> openvpn doesnt work with it.  yeh, i think i read your not supposed to run VPN with sudo, but it needs that to work
[05:36] <Nene1> i can go into ment.lst file and see the available versions.. but i want a single command to get it
[05:37] <Nene1> Ben64 ^^
[05:37] <Ben64> Nene1: what?
[05:39] <plytro> Nene1: if you want to be running the new kernel, you must reboot
[05:39] <somsip> Tommy2: openvpn here with no sudo
[05:39] <plytro> thats it
[05:40] <plytro> openvpn doesn't work for me without sudo
[05:40] <plytro> I just use network manager
[05:40] <plytro> the routes never get established properly if I don't sudo openvpn configfile
[05:40] <Nene1> plytro: yeah i agree... but i just want the kernel version i will get after reboot
[05:40] <plytro> you cant have it
[05:40] <plytro> you can't load it
[05:40] <plytro> it doesn't work that way
[05:41] <plytro> you want to know what it will be?
[05:41] <plytro> or you want to be running it?
[05:41] <plytro> because you can't run it without a reboot
[05:42] <somsip> plytro: Nene1: I'm wrong. I am using sudo...
[05:42] <Guest97273> test
[05:43] <somsip> !test | gustav___
[05:43] <Nene1> plytro: i want to know what version it will be
[05:43] <tak_fate> test
[05:43] <plytro> didn't you watch your install?
[05:44] <Nene1> plytro: i can do that... but i want to take that version with one command and use in my scripy
[05:44] <Nene1> script***
[05:45] <Ben64> Nene1: for what purpose
[05:45] <Nene1> Ben64: to check the pkgs related to that kernel
[05:45] <Ben64> that doesn't make sense
[05:46] <ROldan> HOw i can join to the chanel of spanis support?
[05:46] <Ben64> ROldan: /join #ubuntu-es
[05:49] <plytro> Nene1: check them how?
[05:51] <zjk> Hi, can someone please help understand the aptitude output? I also posted my question here [ http://askubuntu.com/questions/774513/what-does-the-aptitude-why-and-why-not-mean ]
[05:52] <ROldan> HOw can i fix an error in installation of photoshop cc with playonlinux, tells me Error 16
[05:52] <hateball> !wine | ROldan
[05:53] <Ben64> zjk: you should be on 14.04.4
[05:53] <ROldan> ubottu: But not is the same that i run the aplicarion with "Playonlinux"?
[05:54] <Triffid_Hunter> ROldan: pol is a frontend for wine
[05:55] <zjk> @Ben64 Thanks I'll try update
[05:55] <ROldan> Triffid_Hunter: so is the same if i use Wine or POL to install it?
[05:56] <flamsky> Hello everyone
[05:57] <Triffid_Hunter> ROldan: dunno, never tried.. I don't use POL, but afaik it creates a specific wine setup tailored for each app
[05:57] <plytro> Nene1: ls -rt /boot/vmlinuz*|tail -1|grep -Po '\d+'
[05:58] <plytro> there is your most recent kernel version
[05:58] <plytro> not in a great way to use for sure
[05:58] <plytro> but there it is
[05:59] <ROldan> Triffid_Hunter: im gonna try only with wine
[06:00] <PinealGlandOptic> hi everyone! what is the easiest way to open PDF, select several specific pages and export them to another PDF?
[06:01] <Nene1> plytro: thank you.. thats working but kernel version is divided into 4 lines
[06:02] <plytro> you didn't say you wanted it in one line :P
[06:02] <plytro> I really don't understand your use case though
[06:02] <plytro> what is your script doing with other packages?
[06:03] <sailendra> hello there
[06:03] <sailendra> i am having strange problem my swap space is not utilized it shows 0% used even when system ram is 45% utilized
[06:03] <hateball> !info pdftk | PinealGlandOptic
[06:04] <plytro> sailendra: thats a good thing
[06:04] <Ben64> Nene1: it would help a lot more if you explained what exactly you're doing
[06:04] <Female_19> Hello
[06:04] <PinealGlandOptic> ubottu: thanks, going to install it!
[06:04] <Nene1> plytro: Ben64 : i am just checking  linux-image-extra-{kernel} version is installed or not before reboot
[06:05] <plytro> do you not trust apt?
[06:05] <Female_19> I want to install Ubuntu on my mobile phone. Lenovo K3 Note ... How to do?
[06:05] <sailendra> plytro:  sorry for asking stupid question but in what case does it suppose to use my swap
[06:05] <plytro> when you run out of real ram
[06:05] <plytro> !swap
[06:06] <Female_19> khusur phusur
[06:06] <plytro> sailendra: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SwapFaq#Why_is_my_swap_not_being_used.3F
[06:06] <plytro> specifically that
[06:07] <Nene1> plytro: i do... but i want to make sure
[06:07] <plytro> so you dont
[06:08] <plytro> I mean has this burned you or something?
[06:09] <plytro> have you gone through multiple upgrades of kernels where the extra package wasn't installed?
[06:10] <Ben64> here's a silly way to check "dpkg -l | grep linux-image-extra | tail -n1 && dpkg -l | grep linux-image-[3-4] | tail -n1"
[06:10] <sailendra> plytro: thank you it works now i tried to exceed my real ram and swap is used. thank you so much
[06:11] <Stiward> I have a problem to install photoshop cc using wine, someone can help me?
[06:11] <Ben64> Stiward: #winehq
[06:11] <Stiward> Ben64: ?
[06:11] <Ben64> that's where to get help with wine
[06:12] <plytro> 2 people in 20 minutes with the same photoshop cc in wine problem
[06:13] <Ben64> same person
[06:13] <plytro> join/parts hidden
[06:13] <plytro> missed that
[06:17] <zjk> Hi, I'm tring to upgrade from 14.04.2 to 14.04.4.  All I can find about how to achieve this is http://stackoverflow.com/questions/35431143/how-to-update-from-ubuntu-14-04-3-to-14-04-4
[06:17] <plytro> Nene1: diff <(dpkg -l | grep linux-image-extra | tail -n1 |sed -e 's/[a-z].*[a-z]   //g' -e 's/amd.*//g' -e 's/\s*//g') <(dpkg -l | grep linux-image-[3-4] | tail -n1|sed -e 's/[a-z].*[a-z]   //g' -e 's/amd.*//g' -e 's/\s*//g')
[06:17] <zjk> But it seems the stackoverflow question does not have a proper answer
[06:18] <plytro> if $? == 0 then they are both installed
[06:18] <plytro> otherwise no
[06:18] <Stiward> Ben64: anyone helpme there
[06:18] <plytro> Stiward: wine != ubuntu
[06:18] <plytro> go to the wine channel for questions about wine
[06:18] <Ben64> zjk: sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get dist-upgrade
[06:20] <plytro> granted my sed is not the most efficient
[06:20] <plytro> but if you don't know too much about regex, they are simple to parse
[06:20] <Tommy2> Ben64,  HOw do you enable "dist-upgrade" for when you click the "software updater" icon?
[06:21] <Ben64> Tommy2: idk, i like terminal
[06:21] <plytro> !dist-upgrade
[06:21] <Tommy2> in Linux Mint it is just a checkbox,  how do you do it in ubuntu?
[06:21] <Ben64> Tommy2: i think it's on by default
[06:22] <user>  hi all. i faced this issue https://forums.gentoo.org/viewtopic-t-1006838-start-0.html on my freshly 16.04 Xubuntu installation. My system has already (by default) the symbolic link mentioned on this thread (http://pasteboard.co/11gfPQvc.png). Any idea to override this issue?
[06:22] <ubuntu-mate> hello
[06:22] <Tommy2> Ben64,  no it's not, i just tried it right now, and "sudo apt-get dist-upgrade"  gives me more updates, (while the Icon, gives me none)
[06:22] <Bernard63> Good morning. Yersterday I ran into a boot ptob after mounting a network drive and backing up my system on an external drive.
[06:23] <ubuntu-mate> how do i install updates
[06:23] <brushdemon> sudo apt full-upgrade is a good alternative :)
[06:23] <Bernard63> I am online with LIVE/CD. Need some help.
[06:23] <plytro> Tommy2: IconsPage/info.png Dist-upgrade is the default upgrade method used by Synaptic. To change the upgrade method, choose Preferences from the Settings menu, then click on the General tab and adjust the System upgrade entry.
[06:24] <Ben64> Tommy2: just checked mine, and it includes everything
[06:24] <Bernard63> Boot messages Trying to boot with network connection Wait for another 60 sec. But no booting at all.
[06:24] <ubuntu-mate> im using a usb boot will everything be in place if i exit
[06:26] <Bernard63> Doesn|t look like a bad backup. Because the backup files seem all to be in place on the external harddrive.
[06:26] <plytro> Bernard63: same here
[06:27] <plytro> er
[06:27] <plytro> Ben64: same here
[06:27] <Tommy2> plytro, thanks, my Synaptic says "smart upgrade"  not "dist-upgrade",  but it does include more updates, than the "software-updater" icon.  So how do you get the Software-Updater to do "smart upgrade" or "dist upgrade"?? Ben64
[06:27] <Bernard63> plytro: Bad weather
[06:27] <plytro> Tommy2: what does update-manager say?
[06:27] <Ben64> Tommy2: 'update-manager' does dist-upgrade by default
[06:28] <Tommy2> i am on Xubuntu 16.04
[06:28] <plytro> me too
[06:28] <plytro> I don't even have synaptic
[06:28] <plytro> if you hit alt-f2
[06:28] <plytro> and type update-manager
[06:28] <Tommy2> 'update-manager' runs the same thing as the "software updater" icon.   and it says everything is already up-to-date
[06:29] <plytro> and dist-upgrade from the cli give you more packages?
[06:29] <Tommy2> hmmm, there is a message in the Terminal, i can paste it
[06:30] <Tommy2> plytro, yes, dist-upgrade from the cli give you more packages--- that is my exact question. why?
[06:30] <Ben64> put the output from dist-upgrade into http://paste.ubuntu.com
[06:30] <Bernard63> I mean it is a damn shit problem. I cannot boot my szstem anymore. Can anybodz give me a hand.
[06:31] <plytro> Tommy2: https://i.imgur.com/F6eyNLg.png
[06:32] <Tommy2> https://zerobin.net/?ad4e02db09f21d74#mSmSKNTbmx3Yr7D71lUvZ8FrsQrH/XPXviTC8ZtJ+lo=
[06:32] <plytro> Tommy2: https://i.imgur.com/CTMAheP.png
[06:32] <plytro> same download size
[06:32] <Tommy2> that's what my Terminal says, pastebin
[06:32] <plytro> what does dist-upgrade show in terminal vs the update-manager tool in the gui?
[06:33] <Tommy2> plytro,  https://zerobin.net/?ad4e02db09f21d74#mSmSKNTbmx3Yr7D71lUvZ8FrsQrH/XPXviTC8ZtJ+lo=
[06:33] <Tommy2> plytro,  they both say "already up to date"
[06:33] <plytro> your paste doesn't show a running of dist-upgrade
[06:33] <Tommy2> plytro, ok, one second
[06:37] <Tommy2> https://zerobin.net/?2732470686498e75#WaanzU+MzAf6ozKVpxb+f8xCURhXfb2RZuC9DfqNdAQ=
[06:37] <UbuntuDude> how to make Ubuntu sound notification when the battery charge reaches a specific level?
[06:38] <plytro> Tommy2: so  update manager isn't showing that   accountsservice libaccountsservice0
[06:38] <plytro> need to be upgraded?
[06:38] <Ben64> Tommy2: thats not a dist-upgrade thing
[06:38] <plytro> all those other ones are flagged for removal
[06:38] <Nene1> plytro: Ben64 : thank you for your help
[06:38] <plytro> not upgrades
[06:39] <Tommy2> plytro, Exactly  "accountsservice libaccountsservice0"
[06:39] <plytro> get a screenshot of update-manager
[06:39] <plytro> the gui
[06:39] <Nene1> finally i am using this command ---> "ls -rt  vmlinuz* | tail -1 | grep -P '\d+'| cut -d '-' -f2-"
[06:40] <kalenpw> UbuntuDude: You can write a script similair to the one linked here but with a sound instead of a notification and when volume reaches a higher level http://unix.stackexchange.com/questions/60778/how-can-i-get-an-alert-when-my-battery-is-about-to-die-in-linux-mint
[06:40] <Tommy2> plytro, it says "The software on this computer is up to date."  - do you need a screenshot of that?
[06:40] <Tommy2> the gui
[06:41] <plytro> Nene1: with mine you can just do it with one command
[06:41] <plytro> almost no script needed
[06:41] <Nene1> yeah
[06:41] <ubuntu-mate_> hello
[06:42] <Ben64> idk, my command is the best
[06:42] <ubuntu-mate_> can someone help me
[06:42] <kalenpw> How can I make it so I don't see join/ quit messages in irssi? I used the following: /ignore #xkcd-signal MODES JOINS PARTS QUITS and still get notifications
[06:42] <Ben64> ubuntu-mate_: not until you ask a question
[06:43] <plytro> if [ $(my big command) ]; then reboot; fi
[06:43] <ubuntu-mate_> My question is I am installing ubuntu mate from a usb and currently have windows. In the installation process, it is telling me to either upgrade my old ubuntu or erase disk
[06:43] <somsip> kalenpw: you've only turned them off for #xkcd-signal channel. Replace that with the cannel you want to ignore them for
[06:43] <ubuntu-mate_> i dont want to lose windows
[06:44] <kalenpw> How can I make it so I don't see join/ quit messages in irssi? I used the following: /ignore #ubuntu MODES JOINS PARTS QUITS and still get notifications
[06:44] <Ben64> ubuntu-mate_: what do you want
[06:44] <ubuntu-mate_> how should i go about this ?
[06:44] <kalenpw> oops didn't mean to repost sorry bout that thanks! didn't even realize that new to irc and just copied the command
[06:44] <ubuntu-mate_> i want to leave windows untouched but replace thi new ubuntu with my old one
[06:44] <Ben64> ubuntu-mate_: you should be able to choose "something else"
[06:44] <ubuntu-mate_> ok where do i go from there
[06:45] <Tommy2> plytro, is it okay to autoremove those "flagged for removal packages" even if i run programs from TAR.XZ?
[06:45] <Ben64> format the partition(s) you want to replace with ubuntu, and set the mountpoint(s) for them
[06:45] <ubuntu-mate_> or should i press the button that says to erase ubuntu 14.04 and reinstall
[06:45] <ubuntu-mate_> will that reinstall mate?
[06:45] <Ben64> yes
[06:46] <ubuntu-mate_> so it will install mate instead of the old ubuntu correct?
[06:46] <Ben64> if you have ubuntu mate dvd/usb in....yes
[06:46] <de-facto> ubuntu-mate_ in "something else" you can choose your old ubuntu disk (which will be overwritten, as root "/", check format on this). Also if you have a separate swap or home you can choose to use it in "Something else.." for your new installation
[06:46] <Tommy2> ubuntu-mate_,  the easy solution is to get a second HDD/SSD for ubuntu, or even just a flash drive
[06:47] <ubuntu-mate_> ok thank you very much guys
[06:47] <Tommy2> ubuntu-mate_,  i have never "dual booted"  HDD's are cheap nowadays
[06:47] <de-facto> ubuntu-mate_ i meant "old ubuntu partition" on your disk. all those are partitions on your disk
[06:48] <Tommy2> ubuntu-mate_, .. and then eventually you won't need Windows anymore, anyway  :)
[06:48] <ubuntu-mate_> thanks tommy
[06:49] <Archeus_> how to resolve this Dependency is not satisfiable: libgtk-3-0 (>= 3.16.2)
[06:50] <Tommy2> plytro, any ideas on my dist-upgrade problem?
[06:51] <Ben64> Tommy2: the updates you see on command line aren't important, so they aren't immediately shown by update-manager by default
[06:51] <Archeus_> how to resolve Dependency is not satisfiable: libgtk-3-0 (>= 3.16.2) ?
[06:52] <Tommy2> Ben64, i know, so how do i get the update-manager to do the "unimportant" upgrades?
[06:52] <gde33> My desktop icons have arranged themselves above my monitor. Is there some way to move them?
[06:52] <Ben64> Tommy2: did you look in the settings
[06:53] <Tommy2> Ben64, the synaptic settings only affect -> synaptic
[06:53] <Ben64> i didn't say synaptic
[06:54] <Tommy2> the "software & updates" settings, i'm there now.  i dont see a "dist upgrade' or "smart upgrade" option.  (like you do in Linux Mint)
[06:54] <Ben64> what do you see
[06:54] <Tommy2> Ben64,  all the repo choices
[06:55] <gde33> is there a way to move desktop icons with the keyboard?
[06:56] <de-facto> gde33 i dont think so, you can maybe move the selection  though, which DE are you using?
[06:57] <ubuntu-mate_> does ubuntu mate 16.04 automatically come with FireJail?
[06:58] <Guest4> how is ubuntu 14.04 vs. 16.04
[06:58] <gde33> de-facto: I selected the ones outside the screen with the arrow keys, added a visible one with ctrl click then dragged them into the view port :)
[06:58] <McLight> Any opinions on the two distros
[06:58] <McLight> or versions I should say
[07:01] <YankDownUnder> McLight, If you truly think about "release date" and all that follows a "release", the 16.04 release, in about say six months time, will be solid as a rock...and I state this out of pure reality, nothing more. Therefore, it would depend on what you wish to use your installation for...
[07:01] <McLight> Yeah that's what I was thinking
[07:01] <McLight> I'll wait
[07:02] <YankDownUnder> It's been like that from the beginning, and it's like that now - so nothing changes, hmm?
[07:02] <YankDownUnder> McLight, Is it a "critical" installation, bro?
[07:02] <McLight> no
[07:03] <McLight> just a alternative to winblowz
[07:03] <YankDownUnder> McLight, Right...so if it's not critical, then you can experiment...but you know where I'm going with that...
[07:03] <McLight> yeah when I first installed 14.04 right after release transmission wouldn't work
[07:04] <McLight> I've matured I don't need bleeding edge
[07:04] <de-facto> gde33 clever :)
[07:04] <YankDownUnder> McLight, In comparison to MS Windows, I shall tell you this: In the past several weeks, "Die Hard" Windows users that are clients of mine literally, after seeing a machine being booted off a USB - and seeing a laptop that I have - running Ubu - just switched right then and there...and several more are coming aboard...
[07:04] <McLight> you might not like this....
[07:04] <McLight> but my fav is OS X
[07:05] <McLight> built on freebsd
[07:05] <YankDownUnder> McLight, 16.04 ain't really "bleeding edge" - for that, use Fedora...however, 16.04 is solid enough right now...and very usable...
[07:06] <YankDownUnder> McLight, The machine next to me is OSX...just upgraded to 10.11.5 as of this arvo...but that's for a different channel...
[07:06] <Ace0> hi
[07:06] <YankDownUnder> McLight, The folks that I migrated have been ecstatic about the change, the speed...and using vbox for their "Outlook" running seamlessly, well, it's a "shoo in"
[07:06] <Ace0> 0110101010101000101001001010101101010101010001010010010101011010101010100010100100101010110101010101000101001001010101101010101010001010010010101011010101010100010100100101010110101010101000101001001010101101010101010001010010010101011010101010100010100100101010110101010101000101001001010101101010101010001010010010101011010101010100010100100101010110101010101000101001001010101101010101010001010010010101
[07:08] <McLight> YankDownUnder which version of Ubuntu do you use xfce, unity, mate, cinnamon you get the idea
[07:08] <Ace0> 011010101010100010100100101010110101010101000101001001010101101010101010001010010010101011010101010100010100100101010110101010101000101001001010101101010101010001010010010101011010101010100010100100101010110101010101000101001001010101101010101010001010010010101011010101010100010100100101010110101010101000101001001010101101010101010001010010010101011010101010100010100100101010110101010101000101001001010101020101010101010101010101010001010110101010101000101001001
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[07:08] <Ben64> Ace0: stop.
[07:08] <Ace0> 010010010101011010101010100010100100101010110101010101000101001001010101101010101010001010010010101011010101010100010100100101010110101010101000101001001010101101010101010001010010010101011010101010100010100100101010110101010101000101001001010101101010101010001010010010101011010101010100010100100101010110101010101000101001001010101020101010101010101010101010001010110101010101000101001001010101101010101010001010010010101011010101010100010100100101010110101010101
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[07:09] <YankDownUnder> Right...that was NOT interesting...
[07:10] <McLight> YankDownUnder which version of Ubuntu do you use xfce, unity, mate, cinnamon you get the idea
[07:12] <YankDownUnder> McLight, Tell ya, bro, I used to LOVE Gnome 1.4.6...way back when...and that being the case, my FAVE is "Mate" - however, I don't really care about much of anything other than usage and speed...so, XFCE is my choice for when I'm doing "virtualisation" related stuff...or other support related stuff...because it's just fast, nothing gets in my way, and it's, well, fast...otherwise, I stick to Mate...sometimes Cinnamon...but mostly
[07:12] <YankDownUnder> Mate.
[07:12] <radicate> I'm trying to apt-get install some package and it complains about not being able to install a package I tried to install a few days ago?
[07:13] <radicate> How do I get out of this mess? ;o
[07:14] <YankDownUnder> radicate, If you explain with a bit more detail, that might help...
[07:14] <Mathisen> radicate, easyer for someone to help you if you paste the output...
[07:14] <Mathisen> radicate, in a pastebin ofc not in chan
[07:16] <radicate> http://pastebin.com/7fLXV3SJ
[07:19] <YankDownUnder> radicate, Have you tried to "sudo apt-get remove build-essentials" => and then re-install it?
[07:19] <somsip> radicate: do you want libssh2-php?
[07:20] <radicate> YankDownUnder: Nope, but why would it matter? it doesn't even seem to try installing it, only complains about a package I've given up on due to failure installing
[07:20] <somsip> radicate: there is a script trying to access a command that does not exists. IME, delete the post install script at /var/lib/dpkg/info/libssh2-php.postinst and remove it again. It may leave artifacts elsewhere though
[07:21] <YankDownUnder> radicate, I'm merely trying to offer a logical resolution. It would be a safe ideology to remove a package, then re-install a package to see if the error persists. Quite simple logic, nothing to do with abstract thinking.
[07:21] <somsip> radicate: or edit that file to delete the call to php5enmod, then it might clean up everything else too
[07:27] <zjk> After sudo apt-get dist-upgrade /etc/issue still shows me 14.04.2
[07:27] <zjk> Should I be expecting to see 14.04.4?
[07:28] <Ben64> zjk: yes. what kernel are you running? (uname -a)
[07:28] <zjk> Linux TP 3.16.0-71-generic #92~14.04.1-Ubuntu SMP Thu May 12 23:31:46 UTC 2016 x86_64 x86_64 x86_64 GNU/Linux
[07:28] <k1l_> zjk: did you run "sudo apt update" before?
[07:29] <zjk> Not so sure. I think I do have done that
[07:29] <Ben64> oh, you're on the 14.10 kernel
[07:29] <k1l_> then run "sudo apt update && sudo aot full-upgrade" to make sure :)
[07:31] <zjk> E: Invalid operation full-upgrade
[07:31] <Ben64> apt, not apt-get
[07:31] <k1l_> just "apt" not "apt-get" :)
[07:31] <zjk> Oh I see...
[07:32] <zjk> 0 upgraded, 0 newly installed, 0 to remove and 0 not upgraded.
[07:32] <zjk> I have this feeling that my system is a mess already
[07:33] <Cursed_God> zjk: run : sudo do-release-upgrade
[07:33] <Ben64> no
[07:33] <k1l_> Cursed_God: no. that is bad advice.
[07:34] <zjk> My main goal is to install libdbus-1-3:i386
[07:34] <zjk> So I can use teamviewer
[07:34] <Cursed_God> k1l_: why?
[07:35] <k1l_> zjk: can you run this and show the url "grep ^ /etc/apt/sources.list /etc/apt/sources.list.d/* | nc termbin.com 9999"
[07:35] <YankDownUnder> Official upgrade path: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/XenialXerus/ReleaseNotes
[07:35] <zjk> http://termbin.com/f9dy
[07:35] <k1l_> Cursed_God: the do-release-upgrade command is used to change the ubuntu release version from 14.04 to 14.10 or from 14.04 to 16.04.
[07:36] <zjk> Wow I thought I deleted ia32-libs-raring.list
[07:36] <k1l_> /etc/apt/sources.list.d/ia32-libs-raring.list:deb http://old-releases.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/ raring main restricted universe multiverse
[07:37] <k1l_> i would remove this at first
[07:37] <zjk> `nc termbin.com` really cool
[07:39] <zjk> done that
[07:40] <Nolt> hi
[07:40] <k1l_> zjk: what is the issue with libdbus-1-3 now?
[07:42] <zjk> k1l_: http://termbin.com/cn7e
[07:42] <zjk> I also asked this question here [ http://askubuntu.com/questions/774513/what-does-the-aptitude-why-and-why-not-mean ]
[07:42] <k1l_> zjk: why  force the 32bit version?
[07:43] <zjk> I wanted to use teamviewer. it required the 32-bit version
[07:44] <zjk> http://termbin.com/um3k
[07:44] <YankDownUnder> zjk, Don't suppose using the Chrome remote desktop (free)(64bit) works for ya, hmm?
[07:45] <zjk> YankDownUnder: didn't know about it I'll try that
[07:45] <k1l_> zjk: are you sure its a package for ubuntu? it lists "yum" in that output
[07:46] <YankDownUnder> zjk, Yeah bro...it's kinda free...kinda easy to use...kinda works with any/every platform...and free...did I mention it was free? Oh yeah, it's free.
[07:46] <zjk> k1l_: the part above the yum was supposed to show apt-get, somehow it is broken
[07:47] <k1l_> zjk: teamviewer gives out .deb packages
[07:47] <k1l_> zjk: http://www.teamviewer.com/de/download/linux/
[07:47] <zjk> I tried. same issue. libc6:i386 required
[07:49] <k1l_> zjk: "sudo apt-get purge teamviewer; sudo apt-get purge teamviewer:i386; sudo dpkg --add-architecture i386; sudo apt-get update; sudo apt-get install libasound2:i386 libfontconfig1:i386 libfreetype6:i386 libjpeg62:i386 libpng12-0:i386 libsm6:i386 libxrandr2:i386 libxrender1:i386 libxtst6:i386 libxinerama1:i386; wget --continue 'http://download.teamviewer.com/download/teamviewer_i386.deb'; sudo dpkg -i teamviewer_i386.deb; sudo apt-get install -f "
[07:49] <de-facto> zjk btw if you just need to broadcast your sceeen you also can use something like https://meet.jit.si  with chromium-browser and that tiny js extension it automatically installs for sharing your screen (but no remote control). it also provides group video/text/editing and such
[07:49] <nocturn> Hi, I have an issue with Libreoffice impress on Ubuntu 16.04, it does not happen on the same version of libreoffice on 14.04.
[07:49] <k1l_> teamviewer is one of the typical prop. programs that need your system to become a mess. its even not native program, its running in wine.
[07:49] <Cursed_God> i installed unity to 16.04 gnome but its missing from unity greeter https://gist.github.com/c8be5f4d90ce1916ec80a02bb7c7f602 ; https://gist.github.com/anonymous/c0194d9b8618b141d78a75736384404f
[07:50] <nocturn> when copying, inserting or saving slides, the soffice.bin process takes a lot of CPU, making impress unusable
[07:50] <YankDownUnder> ...hence the usage of something nice and free like Chrome Remote Desktop...
[07:50] <zjk> de-facto
[07:50] <zjk> de-facto
[07:50] <zjk> de-facto: thanks I'll keep a note
[07:50] <YankDownUnder> (it's free)
[07:51] <mrbeans> who am i?pwd
[07:52] <dota> a
[07:52] <de-facto> zjk its all open source you even could run that on your own server (its based on java video selective forwarding unit, xmpp server and several extensions to that). client side is pure JS/WebRTC with that tiny extension for screen sharing https://github.com/jitsi/jitsi-meet
[07:52] <dota> ^^
[07:52] <zjk> k1l_: http://termbin.com/loqa
[07:53] <zjk> still the libc6:i386 issue
[07:53] <k1l_> zjk: "sudo apt install libc6:i386"   see why its blocked
[07:53] <zjk> libc6:i386 : Depends: libgcc1:i386 but it is not going to be installed
[07:54] <zjk> if I do "sudo apt-get install libgcc1:i386" it outputs a lot info
[07:54] <de-facto> hmm is that system already multiarch or woudl he need to enable i386 in dpkg maybe?
[07:54] <k1l_> zjk: show that
[07:55] <zjk> http://termbin.com/dq9p
[07:55] <Dumle29> So if I'm having issues with dropbox?
[07:55] <Dumle29> I can't get it to start
[07:56] <zjk> cat /var/lib/dpkg/arch
[07:56] <k1l_> zjk: welcome to the non-multiarch mess
[07:57] <zjk> amd64 and i386 both there
[07:57] <zjk> So is it holeless?
[07:57] <zjk> hopeless?
[07:57] <k1l_> zjk: this is wrong. it wants to remove the whole system.
[07:58] <zjk> The reason I want to use teamviewer is that I want to debug webrtc
[07:58] <k1l_> zjk: i dont know where that bad depencies come from. maybe from using that old raring repo
[07:59] <de-facto> zjk what does "dpkg  --print-foreign-architectures" print you out?
[07:59] <zjk> i386
[08:00] <de-facto> hmm ok
[08:02] <zjk> I'm giving up. I really appreciate all your help
[08:03] <de-facto> zjk maybe you are interessted in something like https://www.browserling.com
[08:04] <zjk> amazing. It's free
[08:04] <de-facto> time limited though if free
[08:04] <dota> Anyone met such a problem? When I open 2 PDFs with Document Viewer, I can't choose the right window by clicking the launcher button of Document Viewer
[08:05] <azizLIGHT> how do i tell if my middle click on the mouse is working or not
[08:05] <azizLIGHT> trying to middle click things in firefox and nothings happening
[08:05] <azizLIGHT> i can scroll up/down but not middle click
[08:05] <azizLIGHT> any ideas
[08:06] <lyze> azizLIGHT, Enter "xev" into a terminal window
[08:06] <lyze> azizLIGHT, This opens a new small window where you can test keyboard / mouse features. just press the middle mouse button on to that window and see if the console outputs something that it was pressed
[08:06] <YankDownUnder> azizLIGHT, Have you enabled "autoscrolling" in Firefox? If not, you may want to do that...then restart Firefox and try this all over again...
[08:07] <azizLIGHT> lyze: im not seeing any buttonpress or buttonrelease event for the middle mouse button, but i can see them for the left/right clicks
[08:07] <azizLIGHT> YankDownUnder: yeah i checked that setting, i always had it enabled
[08:08] <lyze> azizLIGHT, then your button doesn't work
[08:08] <azizLIGHT> so my middle mouse really is not working, physically, hardware wise...?
[08:08] <azizLIGHT> oh no
[08:08] <de-facto> zjk also in the past i liked to use VNC via HTML5 like https://kanaka.github.io/noVNC/ and X11VNC/TigerVNC/RealVNC or such, also if the target is linux i can recommend somthing like http://wiki.x2go.org/doku.php
[08:09] <azizLIGHT> ok its working after i turned the mouse on/off
[08:09] <azizLIGHT> weird
[08:10] <YankDownUnder> azizLIGHT, Try this: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=2092090
[08:12] <zjk> de-facto: I'll try that.  It's not just failing to install teamviewer make me come here. It's my ignorance about how the package system works annoys me. It still seems a mystery to me why libc6:i386 failed to install
[08:13] <de-facto> zjk or even windows remote desktop/VNC or such if you use windows on the target and use remmina to connect to that from linux client. i guess you also might be able to tunnel that over ssh or vpn or such
[08:15] <zjk> de-facto: Yearh I do use windows at the other end
[08:16] <zoe__> Hi! How can I create a shortcut to create new file in Nautilus please ?
[08:16] <de-facto> zjk is it in the same network behind a NAT or does the connection go over the internet?
[08:17] <zoe__> Is "touch filename.txt" a good command to do that ?
[08:17] <zoe__> (in the shortcuts creator)
[08:18] <YankDownUnder> zoe__, Could do
[08:18] <de-facto> zoe__ you can create some in ~/Templates and then right click in nautilus to use those templates
[08:18] <zjk> de-facto: different NAT. one at my office, one at my home. I didn't apply for a company VPN. Since my office has faster internet, I'll trying to use that at home
[08:21] <de-facto> zjk hmm but then the limiting factor still is your home internet i guess, if you get vpn from your company you might be able to just use windows remote desktop protocol from your home linux client (dial in via vpn, then you are behind the company NAT and should be able to connect with remmina or rdesktop i guess)
[08:22] <Cursed_God> hi i installed unity to 16.04 gnome but its missing from unity greeter https://gist.github.com/c8be5f4d90ce1916ec80a02bb7c7f602 ; https://gist.github.com/anonymous/c0194d9b8618b141d78a75736384404f
[08:23] <tables> how do i change hostname in my terminal?
[08:23] <tables> user@host
[08:23] <tables> how can i even put a fake one on there?
[08:23] <SwedeMike> tables: http://askubuntu.com/questions/9540/how-do-i-change-the-computer-name
[08:24] <zjk> de-facto: My home Internet do okay within China. But I use a proxy in google cloud which is faster connected in my office
[08:24] <de-facto> tables ~/.bashrc the variable for your prompt is PS1
[08:25] <de-facto> but that does not change your hostname systemwide
[08:25] <sjmulder> hi all. I’ve seen the packaging guide but left wondering what I am to do if I want to have a straightforward command line tool included in the ubuntu apt repository
[08:26] <sjmulder> do I have to build packages myself for LTS and current flavours of Ubuntu and/or Debian or are there maintainers with a bit more experience who take up such small packages?
[08:26] <de-facto> tables after you changed that you need to source it like ". ~/.bashrc"
[08:29] <de-facto> sjmulder can you be more specific about what you want to achieve? there are ppa's with many packages provided by third party packagers, if you find a "debian" dir for your package you can build it yourself with "dpkg-buildpackage -us -uc" and install that with dpkg or gdebi
[08:29] <mcphail> sjmulder: You, or someone else, will need to become a package maintainer, get it onto Debian, and continue to maintain the package in the long term. It is a big commitment
[08:30] <mcphail> sjmulder: If you don't want to take on that level of responsibility, have a look to see if snappy meetes your needs
[08:31] <rilleh> I'm having issues with iTerm2 shell integration and Ubuntu, anyone here that have got it to work?
[08:31] <rilleh> It works on my Mac
[08:32] <sjmulder> de-facto: I have a simple but useful program which is finished & tagged 1.0.0 on GitHub. I want other people to be able to install it easily in Ubuntu
[08:32] <rilleh> Nevermind, I found the problem
[08:32] <rilleh> tmux :(
[08:33] <sjmulder> de-facto: ideally if there is a team of people who do such things I’d be happy to have them maintain the packaging, otherwise I have no issue tacking it up myself
[08:33] <sjmulder> mcphail: thanks for the explanation and tip there, I’ll have a look at snappy
[08:34] <asdffff> irc channel for history?
[08:34] <de-facto> you can setup a ppa or even your own hosted repo (on your server somewhere). maybe #ubuntu-devel and #ubuntu-packaging can help you with that? not sure
[08:34] <de-facto> sjmulder ^^
[08:36] <sjmulder> de-facto: that's one option, but Debian/Ubuntu packaging looks like an art in itself. I’ll hang around on that channel for a bit
[08:36] <de-facto> sjmulder there is also https://build.opensuse.org/ if you want to support more distros (thats not debian specific), but i guess you have to do it on your own or find someone who maintains it for you
[08:37] <sjmulder> oh that is awesome! I was hoping such a thing existed
[08:38] <de-facto> sjmulder but it doesnt provide the standard debian packaging i think (not entirely sure) and might use something different to "debian" dir, hence maybe not provide .debs in such high quality than debian/ubuntu specific ways
[08:39] <sjmulder> de-facto: I see. but just knowing it’ll build and run cleanly on all these distros is great
[08:39] <barabasi> hi guys, anyone own a chromebook? I'm running ubuntu trusty and I'm kinda stuck on a step of installing rstudio
[08:40] <de-facto> sjmulder maybe it uses something like https://cmake.org/Wiki/CMake:Packaging_With_CPack  but that almost might tend to offtopic i fear
[08:42] <mcphail> sjmulder: to be honest, if you provide repo access and release tarballs using a sensible build system (automake/cmake/whatever), someone is likely to package it if it is useful enough
[08:43] <sobersabre> hi. I'm trying to connect a maching to ad using: https://help.ubuntu.com/lts/serverguide/sssd-ad.html
[08:43] <sobersabre> I think everything worked ok, except that it doesn't work :)
[08:43] <sobersabre> I have smbd, nmbd up, I have sssd up, and ntpd is up.
[08:43] <sjmulder> mcphail: it’s this: https://github.com/sjmulder/json-yaml useful for a very specific audience. I use it for getting readable output from web API's w/ curl myself
[08:43] <sobersabre> But getent passwd user doesn't work.
[08:43] <sjmulder> I don't think it's really interesting enough that someone will pick it up on their own
[08:43] <sobersabre> I might have installed something that I shouldn't and it clashes. can somebody help ?
[08:46] <sjmulder> sobersabre: how did you install it?
[08:50] <de-facto> sjmulder if you want a full development build system you also might be interessted in using something like jenkins/tuleap or such
[08:50] <Qwertie> Should this be marked as confirmed because I found a driver that fixes the problem? https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/linux/+bug/1550905
[08:51] <sjmulder> de-facto: yeah. I was planning to set up something like that with maybe some Docker images/VMs/that Debian tool for various distros that I can use for future projects too
[08:51] <sobersabre> sjmulder: what do you mean by "it" ?
[08:51] <mcphail> sjmulder: looks useful. It would, probably, benefit from a simple automake conversion with some pkg-config checks for your dependent libraries. The debian packaging process can use that automatically
[08:52] <researcher123> after recent updates on ubuntu 14.04 my pc fails to recogniseModem. Wht should I do? PLEASE HELP ME
[08:52] <sjmulder> sobersabre: the thing you installed. was it a package, an installer?
[08:53] <researcher123> it was updated by automatic update
[08:53] <sobersabre> sjmulder: I used only packages, initially I've installed an ldap client, after it worked, I went to google, and then read the aforementioned official howto and followed it to the letter.
[08:54] <sobersabre> I've not ran: net ads join -k -d7 and collected the output, I see some errors I haven't seen before.
[08:54] <sobersabre> sjmulder: ^^^^
[08:54] <sobersabre> sjmulder: e.g.: pdb_create_builtin_alias: Could not get a gid out of winbind
[08:54] <researcher123> how to uninstall recent automatic updates?
[08:55] <somsip> researcher123: look in /var/log/apt/history.log and remove them.
[08:55] <YankDownUnder> sobersabre, I'm merely observing this conversation...what is the aim...you're connecting a workstation to an AD server, yes? Just wondering, bro.
[08:55] <researcher123> thanks somsip , I will try
[08:55] <sobersabre> researcher123: you would need to install previous version. you can extract that by analyzing the file somsip suggested... but there's no convenience "uninstall previous update" button.
[08:56] <sobersabre> researcher123: you can have a procedure of snapshotting/backing up the system before an update. then you just roll back.
[08:56] <researcher123> sobersabre: how do I install previous version?
[08:57] <somsip> researcher123: now that's the difficulty...
[08:57] <researcher123> sobersabre: is it to be installed by bootable pen drive previously created?
[08:57] <sobersabre> researcher123: depends on the pacakge. some packages you can reinstall: http://askubuntu.com/questions/138284/how-to-downgrade-a-package-via-apt-get
[08:57] <de-facto> researcher123 the previous versions might be still sitting in /var/cache/apt/archives/  but if you want future updates id recommend find out what went wrong with your updated versions
[08:57] <researcher123> sobersabre: ok.thanks
[08:57] <sobersabre> researcher123: but for some packages it's not so easy, e.g. if you upgraded the kernel package and removed previous one...
[08:58] <sobersabre> and if you have some proprietary drivers lying around...
[08:58] <sobersabre> YankDownUnder: you are correct.
[08:58] <de-facto> researcher123 you also easily can choose different package versions and pin versions in GUI with synaptic btw
[08:58] <researcher123> de-facto: thanks
[08:58] <sobersabre> researcher123: de-facto: "easily" is a relative term
[08:59] <researcher123> hmm
[08:59] <de-facto> yeah ofc whats not ? :P
[08:59] <sobersabre> if it is easy to you to dig docs for every step you make, and you're unfamiliar, and you have unbound amount of time for this game, you're ok.
[08:59] <researcher123> limited time and not much familiarwith docs
[09:00] <sobersabre> researcher123: try stack-exchange and stuff....
[09:00] <researcher123> whats that
[09:00] <sobersabre> but validate the dates are recent to your version.
[09:00] <sobersabre> researcher123: if you don't know what's stackexchange, you're in deep shite...
[09:00] <slima> Hello, I have problem with startup apps in sequence, I have bind9 and mysql; bind9 require mysql to start. So I added in /etc/init.d/bind9 # Should-Start:      $network $syslog $mysql next I did update-rc.d bind9 defaults
[09:00] <slima> but after reboot, bind9 wont start
[09:00] <researcher123> i can't connect to internet
[09:01] <sobersabre> sjmulder: so ... I was kinda hoping you're familiar with the matter of the subject....
[09:01] <researcher123> i will try reinstall
[09:01] <researcher123> hat i can do correctly
[09:01] <sjmulder> sobersabre: I’m afraid not - it sounded like you installed the wrong package and maybe needed only apt-get remove or such but it's a fair bit more complicated than that, ha
[09:02] <de-facto> researcher123 dont forget backup though (even if you dont plan reinstall ;)
[09:02] <researcher123> hmmm
[09:02] <researcher123> i have my backup
[09:02] <researcher123> thanks for the care
[09:08] <mkings> whois chu
[09:08] <Cursed_God> hi i installed unity to 16.04 gnome but its missing from unity greeter https://gist.github.com/c8be5f4d90ce1916ec80a02bb7c7f602 ; https://gist.github.com/anonymous/c0194d9b8618b141d78a75736384404f
[09:09] <ubuntu-mate_> hello duded i have a question. iam new on linux system. i have bootubuntu mate from usbstick. i want use mate onlz from usbdriv must be i installed on it or when i onlz run ubuntu mate from usbdrive save all file and settings
[09:09] <ubuntu-mate_> greey from germanz
[09:10] <auronandace|work> !usb | ubuntu-mate_
[09:10] <bazhang> ubuntu-mate_, is the usb persistent or not
[09:12] <de-facto> ubuntu-mate_ how did you install ubuntu mate on your usb thumb drive?
[09:12] <ubuntu-mate_> i have installed the ubuntumate.iso on usb drive and i have *only run from usb drive / i want to install on usbdrive for all datas and new programs
[09:13] <bazhang> ubuntu-mate_, so it's live, not persistent
[09:13] <bazhang> !usb | ubuntu-mate_
[09:14] <ubuntu-mate_> ok also i must run iso from antoher usb drive to install it on this one right
[09:14] <auronandace|work> ubuntu-mate_: or a livecd yes
[09:15] <de-facto> ubuntu-mate_ you also can run it entirely within RAM i think
[09:15] <ubuntu-mate_> hmpf... okay right i think i isntaled on cd thanks see u
[09:15] <ubuntu-mate_> better tahn win10
[09:15] <ubuntu-mate_> greez leminsc8
[09:17] <weihhh> hello
[09:17] <de-facto> its the "toram" parameter added in grub to the kernel cmdline, but he left already, oh well
[09:18] <ccopland> exit
[09:18] <ccopland> quit
[09:18] <ccopland> quit
[09:26] <RavinduL> Hi! How do I enable the default mouse & touchpad driver on Ubuntu 15.10? I uninstalled the Synaptics driver (which I installed) because it didn't scroll properly with `sudo apt-get purge synaptik*`
[09:26] <RavinduL> Now my touchpad doesn't work
[09:26] <RavinduL> How would I re-enable the default driver that's pre-installed in Ubuntu>
[09:26] <RavinduL> `xinput list` shows my touchpad
[09:27] <Xano> I have a Lenovo Bluetooth Keyboard (model KT-1255) on Ubuntu 15.10. It worked until yesterday. I assumed it stopped working because the batteries are empty, so I charged it. However, I can no longer find it when scanning for Bluetooth devices in Ubuntu. Many other devices appear, and the keyboard's light indicate it is searching for a connection. I'd he grateful for some tips on how to debug this, as I do not know where to start.
[09:28] <Xano> I did run all updates this week, so maybe that introduced new incompatibilities.
[09:32] <de-facto> RavinduL maybe with something like "sudo apt install xserver-xorg-input-synaptics", but that depends on what you deinstalled i guess
[09:35] <RavinduL> de-facto, What I uninstalled was the synaptics touchpad driver from http://http.us.debian.org/debian/pool/main/s/synaptiks/kde-config-touchpad_0.8.1-2_all.deb
[09:40] <nohitall> I am having an issue with eth0 and a bridge, I configured bridge ports eth0, but after network restart eth0 still has the IP and routing table has double entries for eth0 and br0, I tried ifdown/ifup eth0 but no changes, anybody got an idea? ubuntu 15.04
[09:47] <Fleuv> Hi there, I'm trying to hook up a "samsung syncmaster 225mw" via HDMI and it does connect but it just works horrible. For example I cant click on spot I want to click; the displacement is not in sync with it's real coordinates. The display size is somewhat bigger than the screen size. These errors have been popping up when poking around in the display setting: "could not set the configuration for CRTC 700", "GDBus.Error:org.gtk.GDBus.Unmap
[09:47] <Fleuv> pedGError.Quark._gsd_2drr_2derror_2dquark.Code2: could not set the configuration for CRTC 700"
[09:54] <anonymous_> sup people :P
[09:56] <anonymous_> anybody here that can help me...
[09:56] <Ben64> not until you ask a question
[09:56] <Fleuv> same for me :D
[09:56] <anonymous_> lol
[09:56] <akis>  hi all. i faced this issue https://forums.gentoo.org/viewtopic-t-1006838-start-0.html on my freshly 16.04 installation. My system has already (by default) the symbolic link mentioned on this thread (http://pasteboard.co/11gfPQvc.png). I have to mention that thunar-archive-plugin can extract files but it cannot make new archives.Any idea to override this issue?
[09:57] <anonymous_> why cant i move the windows on ubuntu if i plugin a mouse but whn i unpplug it it works fine again
[09:57] <alkisg> akis, if you're having an issue with xfce, why not ask in #xubuntu?
[09:58] <anonymous_> ?
[09:58] <anonymous_> xubuntu?
[09:58] <akis> alkisg: i asked in #xubuntu too. are you Greek?
[09:58] <alkisg> Yup :)
[09:58] <anonymous_> what ya guys talking about
[09:59] <akis> alkisg: I am too. Are you writing from Greece too?
[09:59] <alkisg> Yup
[09:59] <alkisg> There's also #ubuntu-gr if you want to chat in Greek
[10:00] <anonymous_> just help me somebody
[10:00] <anonymous_> why cant i move the windows on ubuntu if i plugin a mouse but whn i unpplug it it works fine again
[10:00] <anonymous_> please
[10:00] <anonymous_> somebody its pissing me off i cant play steam games without a ,mouse
[10:00] <uwe> greetings, I'm reciving a warning of google that my browser (chromium) is outdated and that i should upgrade to stay secure, but apt-get install chromium-browsers says: The following extra packages will be installed: chromium-browse > then quits gracefully !!!
[10:00] <akis> alkisg: Me too. Athens. Do you have any idea on this issue? Its the 1st time i face it. there was no problem with previous distros. And as fas i see everything seem ok on the system.
[10:01] <Ben64> anonymous_: your question doesn't make a lot of sense
[10:01] <alkisg> akis, I'm not using xfce
[10:01] <anonymous_> Ben10 if i plug in a mouse all windows freeze and i cant move maximize or minimize them but when i unplug it and use the build in mouse pad every thing works fine you got it now? ):
[10:01] <uwe> sorry for the typos, its all chromium-browser ... and its not installing AND failing to tell me why ... :/
[10:02] <akis> alkisg: ok, no probl, i went to #ubuntu-gr too to ask about it. Καλημέρα.
[10:02] <alkisg> Καλημέρα :)
[10:03] <Ben64> anonymous_: is the mouse good
[10:03] <RavinduL> Hi! I installed the Synaptics touchpad driver according to the question at http://askubuntu.com/questions/453876/how-to-install-synaptiks-on-touchpad-on-ubuntu-14-04 How would I enable natural (reverse) scrolling for it?
[10:03] <anonymous_> yes it works on windows
[10:03] <anonymous_> its a gaming mouse
[10:03] <anonymous_> no software needed
[10:03] <anonymous_> ben64
[10:04] <Ben64> maybe try a different one
[10:05] <Glenn> How can I setup multiple WLAN
[10:07] <anonymous_> ok ty
[10:07] <zetheroo> I have a 250G SSD in my laptop running 16.04, and then I see this:
[10:07] <zetheroo> -rw-rw-r-- 1 root utmp 518G Apr 27 16:40 /var/log/lastlog
[10:07] <zetheroo> How is this possible? :D
[10:07] <Habbie> zetheroo, du -hs /var/log/lastlog
[10:08] <zetheroo> that gives: 44K	/var/log/lastlog
[10:08] <Habbie> that's the actual size it uses
[10:08] <zetheroo> makes more sense ...
[10:08] <delf_> ahoi! i need help setting up gpg: i'm trying to add a keyserver in kleopatra, but if i click "apply" or "ok", the dialog closes but the keyserver-entry is not saved...any ideas?
[10:08] <zetheroo> but why the crazy output with ll -h ?
[10:08] <Habbie> do you have a user with a very high userid?
[10:08] <Habbie> zetheroo,
[10:09] <alkisg> zetheroo: it's called "sparse file", google it for definition
[10:09] <zetheroo> hmm .... how do I see my uid again?
[10:09] <Habbie> indeed
[10:09] <Habbie> zetheroo, 'id'
[10:09] <Habbie> some explanation here https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=192560
[10:09] <zetheroo> uid=1902118133
[10:09] <zetheroo> :)
[10:09] <Habbie> that's high
[10:09] <Habbie> so what happens is that to store last login information for you
[10:09] <zetheroo> I guess because I am logging into AD
[10:10] <Habbie> the lastlog file needs to grow to accomodate all UIDs between zero and yours
[10:10] <Habbie> luckily the kernel will 'fake up' these gigabytes of zeroes
[10:10] <Glenn> How to find the ssid by command line
[10:10] <Habbie> with what, indeed, is called a sparse file
[10:10] <zetheroo> Habbie: huh ok
[10:11] <zetheroo> Habbie: thanks for the clarification ;
[10:11] <platter> After a failed/hanging ubuntu upgrade to 14.04 (not by me), I've booted from a recovery USB medium and I try to mount (readonly) the harddrive and it will not work, shows plenty errors in dmesg, like status: { DRDY ERR } http://paste.ubuntu.com/16505199/ . Is there hope for the drive? I've read somewhere that could be caused by a faulty cable?
[10:11] <Habbie> zetheroo, no problem
[10:13] <Glenn> How to setup multiple WLAN
[10:18] <Glenn> Hi
[10:19] <Glenn> HOW to detect if a Ethernet cable is connected
[10:19] <Habbie> Glenn, ethtool eth0
[10:19] <mcphail> platter: can be caused by a faulty cable or a loose motherboard power connection. I've also got a faulty motherboard which spawns those errors
[10:19] <mcphail> platter: best to check the drive in another machine with a different cable
[10:20] <platter> Good idea. I've previously switched the sata port around, but it did not make a difference. Btw. I've managed to mount the drive no with the 'noload' option
[10:27] <platter> mount the drive now*
[10:29] <brym> morning all. i understand i cannot dd my existing drive while it's in use. but can i qemu-img it while it's in use?
[10:30] <rena_> Hi, I have Ubuntu 15.10 installed (not dual boot!). anyone had problems upgrading it without reinstalling everything? had a similar problem before and I was just wondering...
[10:31] <brym> rena_: i had 14.04.1 installed, and upgraded to 16.04 on release day. i've encountered several issues as a result of not waiting for the official upgrade release.
[10:32] <garcia> garcia
[10:32] <k1l_> brym: still that NAS? please ask that NAS support or the support from the OS that NAS runs.
[10:32] <brym> rena_: i'm now looking to virtualize my existing desktop and reinstall 14.04.1. small steps though, as this itself is proving troublesome.
[10:33] <k1l_> rena_: the upgrades get automated testings. 15.10 to1 6.04 should work. but be aware that there are issues for amd video card users.
[10:33] <brym> k1l_: the nas is only where i want to save the image. i appreciate i've gotten all the support i can from here regarding that.
[10:34] <k1l_> brym: then boot a ubuntu usb stick and dd the hdd then.
[10:36] <brym> k1l_: i will. i just wondered if it were possible to do it with qemu-img create, that's all. i know i can convert using qemu-img after dd'ing. and loading a .raw shouldn't be a problem either. just a curiosity :)
[10:39] <leeyaa> hi
[10:40] <leeyaa> after upgrading Ubuntu 14.04 LTS to 16.04 I can no longer start apache2. I found that from this Apache VH https://ghostbin.com/paste/r9uma the line PerlRequire       startup.pl breaks Apache
[10:40] <leeyaa> any idea how to debug it?
[10:40] <leeyaa> im getting segmentation faults
[10:41] <leeyaa> works fine on 14.04 LTS
[10:41] <lotuspsychje> !ltsupgrade | leeyaa
[10:41] <leeyaa> !ltsupgrade
[10:41] <lotuspsychje> leeyaa: not recommended yet to upgrade from 14.04 yet
[10:41] <leeyaa> lotuspsychje: i know. i am updating a dev server
[10:42] <leeyaa> lotuspsychje: so you are saying to wait? i was hoping i can debug it
[10:42] <RandomUser1234> I have a bad laptop that only has 512 MB of DDR2 ram, can it run ubuntu 16.04?
[10:42] <leeyaa> RandomUser1234: yes it can
[10:42] <lotuspsychje> RandomUser1234: lubuntu or xubuntu sure
[10:42] <leeyaa> just make sure you use some lightweight desktop env
[10:43] <RandomUser1234> So should I install lubuntu?
[10:43] <RandomUser1234> I have regular ubuntu 16.04 on the usb
[10:43] <lotuspsychje> leeyaa: perhaps reinstall apache?
[10:43] <lotuspsychje> RandomUser1234: 512ram is bit low for unity
[10:43] <leeyaa> lotuspsychje: by reinstalling you mean apt-get install or completely ?
[10:43] <RandomUser1234> lotuspsychje: so lubuntu should be good?
[10:44] <lotuspsychje> leeyaa: could try reinstall apache only perhaps
[10:44] <lotuspsychje> RandomUser1234: its your choice really mate, some love lubuntu, some xubuntu
[10:44] <lotuspsychje> RandomUser1234: checkout lubuntu and xubuntu website perhaps?
[10:44] <leeyaa> lotuspsychje: nope still segfaulting
[10:45] <RandomUser1234> lotuspsychje: this is only for my grandma who needs internet to browse and skype to call family.
[10:45] <RandomUser1234> lotuspsychje: as her windows xp is virus filled
[10:45] <lotuspsychje> RandomUser1234: lubuntu is the lightest in normal cases
[10:45] <lotuspsychje> RandomUser1234: but i had 1 machine perform better on xubuntu
[10:45] <RandomUser1234> so xubuntu is lighter?
[10:46] <RandomUser1234> this laptop has DDR2 512 MB ram
[10:46] <lotuspsychje> RandomUser1234: lubuntu is the lightest normally
[10:46] <k1l_> !lubuntu | RandomUser1234
[10:47] <k1l_> RandomUser1234: with 512mb ram Lubuntu is your only chance
[10:47] <lotuspsychje> leeyaa: try a 16.04 liveusb and test apache there perhaps?
[10:48] <RandomUser1234> There's multiple alternate downloads for lubuntu
[10:48] <RandomUser1234> can i get a recommendation?
[10:48] <Habbie> RandomUser1234, url?
[10:48] <leeyaa> lotuspsychje: nah ill just propose our devs to wait
[10:49] <leeyaa> or debug their crap
[10:49] <k1l_> leeyaa: from 14.04 to 16.04 versions changed. make sure your setup still works with all the new version of apache, php, etc
[10:50] <leeyaa> k1l_: I used to upgrade from 12.04 to 14.04 without issues. any new major changes with this release ?
[10:50] <leeyaa> i dont see major changes in httpd
[10:50] <k1l_> leeyaa: that depends on the stuff in use.
[10:50] <leeyaa> but maybe mod_perl is different
[10:50] <leeyaa> k1l_: its a perl app
[10:50] <k1l_> leeyaa: like there were major changes in php and mysql
[10:51] <leeyaa> not part of this node, only httpd and mod_perl
[10:51] <leoknudsen> Hi @everyone, is there anyone that might know how to use the --with-gettext flag while installing php gettext on a 14.04 machine?
[10:51] <k1l_> then look at the errors you get and what exact issue it is. i am just guessing from your "it doesnt work" information
[10:52] <leeyaa> k1l_: it is a segmentation fault [ 1792.958926] /usr/sbin/apach[3479]: segfault at 5 ip 00007f8e5c043cfe sp 00007ffdb4abcf00 error 4 in Pid.so[7f8e5c043000+1000] and this is the strace output https://ghostbin.com/paste/4p7x7
[10:52] <leeyaa> so nothing useful in logs except the segfault error in syslog
[10:53] <RandomUser1234> which alternate lubuntu should I get?
[10:53] <RandomUser1234> for a laptop that has 512 MB of ram
[10:53] <k1l_> RandomUser1234: what about lubuntu desktop 64bit.iso?
[10:53] <RandomUser1234> the laptop isn't quad core
[10:53] <savig> hii guys
[10:54] <k1l_> doesnt matter. as long as your cpu is 64bit go with 64bit OS
[10:54] <savig> installed windows 10 and ubuntu 16.04 in my lap and can't access my partitioned drives in ubuntu. need to ntfsfix every time when using ubuntu
[10:54] <leeyaa> k1l_: he has 512mb memory, not a good idea to get 64 bit
[10:54] <savig> any solution??
[10:54] <RandomUser1234> k1l_: how can i tell if the cpu is 64bit? It's an Intel Celeron processor 530
[10:54] <k1l_> leeyaa: 32bit/64bit is not about amount of ram.
[10:54] <leeyaa> k1l_: 64 bit tends to use a bit more memory
[10:55] <SwedeMike> RandomUser1234: http://ark.intel.com/products/33100/Intel-Celeron-Processor-530-1M-Cache-1_73-GHz-533-MHz-FSB-Socket-P   "Intel 64 YES".
[10:55] <k1l_> RandomUser1234: that is capable of 64bit
[10:55] <leeyaa> k1l_: at one of our offices we got 30% memory usage increase by just switching to 64 bit Ubuntu
[10:56] <k1l_> leeyaa: and 32bit is dying. like chrome dropped 32bit builds. other distributions are following. so if you want a modern desktop, go for 64bit
[10:56] <de-facto> savig does windows use an ssd cache or such?
[10:56] <lotuspsychje> leeyaa: and cpu takes over heavy work also
[10:56] <RandomUser1234> i hope this 512 DDR2 MB laptop can handle 64bit
[10:56] <lotuspsychje> RandomUser1234: it will
[10:56] <savig> nopes ,
[10:56] <leeyaa> k1l_: thats not a valid argument in his use case. anyway :)
[10:56] <k1l_> RandomUser1234: it can when the cpu can. so go for it
[10:57] <RandomUser1234> https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Lubuntu/Alternate_ISO
[10:57] <RavinduL> Hi! How do I remove a package `musique` that shows up in list.txt after I run `apt list > list.txt` as "musique/wily 1.1-2.1build1 amd64"?
[10:57] <RandomUser1234> not sure what to download for 512 MB ram
[10:57] <SwedeMike> RandomUser1234: if you have any possibility to upgrade ram on that laptop, it'll be worthwhile for your usage. See if you can find some used memory somewhere, or something.
[10:57] <savig> Iam used lubuntu 15.10 earlier with no such problems
[10:57] <RavinduL> I tried `sudo apt-get remove musique`, with no success
[10:57] <de-facto> savig so what are you doing exactly, what does not work, and how do you expect it to work?
[10:57] <k1l_> RandomUser1234: use the "desktop 64bit iso"
[10:58] <lotuspsychje> RandomUser1234: http://cdimage.ubuntu.com/lubuntu/releases/16.04/release/lubuntu-16.04-desktop-amd64.iso
[10:58] <lotuspsychje> RandomUser1234: or the 14.04 if you like
[10:58] <RandomUser1234> lotuspsychje: But the desktop versions is saying you need 700 MB or more
[10:59] <lotuspsychje> RandomUser1234: make a liveusb out ot the iso
[10:59] <k1l_> RandomUser1234: space on the cd/dvd. or what is the issue?
[10:59] <RandomUser1234> Desktop (Graphical Installer)These versions are suitable for PC's with over 700 MB of RAM. Do not try to install 64 bit on a 32 bit machine. Installing 32 bit onto 64 bit is safe. These images require either DVD or USB for the image.
[10:59] <RandomUser1234> https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Lubuntu/GetLubuntu
[10:59] <savig> just enter the partitioned drives normally without the error message
[11:00] <RandomUser1234> Alternate is a non-graphical installer image used for computers with less than 4.3GB hard disk space and below 700MB RAM. Use the alternate versions for non-standard setups
[11:00] <savig> in ubuntu
[11:00] <lotuspsychje> RandomUser1234: you dont need the alternate install
[11:00] <RandomUser1234> I believe I do as I couldn't run a live version of regular ubuntu
[11:01] <de-facto> savig sorry cant help you if i dont understand what you are doing there
[11:01] <k1l_> RandomUser1234: the thing is: the desktop iso is a live system. on <700mb ram systems that is very slow. so they suggest to use the alternate install cd because that is a visual reduced installer like the old windows ones.
[11:01] <RandomUser1234> k1l_: so i'll try the alternate
[11:02] <k1l_> RandomUser1234: they both install the same system in the end. the live-system just needs more ram becuase it needs to load the live system into the ram. which the alternate installer doesnt.
[11:02] <savig> actually I done nothing.....installed ubuntu 16.04 and windows 10 in my lap.........the problem is can't mout the partitioned drives in ubuntu , show problem like windows is in hibernate or somthing.....
[11:03] <boxmein> savig: windows never shuts down fully anymore
[11:03] <RavinduL> savig, Disable fast startup within windows to fix that
[11:03] <boxmein> savig: shutdown is called "hybrid shutdown" and means that services/etc get hibernated while rest gets shutdown
[11:03] <boxmein> savig: there should be what RavinduL said, an option to turn that off and still enable full shutdowns in windows
[11:04] <de-facto> savig ah ok so you want to access your windows 10 partition from ubuntu? you need to "really shut down" windows for that, normally it goes into hilbernation mode (which does not write everything to disk)
[11:04] <boxmein> savig: thing is, in hibernation, the partition becomes waaaaaaay fragile
[11:04] <RavinduL> savig, http://acer-in.custhelp.com/app/answers/detail/a_id/37059/~/windows-10%3A-enable-or-disable-fast-startup
[11:04] <boxmein> savig: stuff like hiberfiles, memory locations etc have to stay the same for a successful boot
[11:04] <TomyWork> my kubuntu 14.04 machine is much slower than usual after a DNS outage. i have t on of tabs and consoles open, is there anything i can try short of a reboot
[11:04] <savig> Ohk
[11:04] <k1l_> savig: boot to windows. then remove the "fast reboot" option on that partitions. so they get clean shutdown and are mountable by other OSs
[11:04] <boxmein> savig: well there's like one hiberfile but point remains
[11:06] <savig> but where should be that fast reboot option in windows 10
[11:06] <radicate> So by accident I ran the command 'stop'
[11:07] <radicate> And ended up not being to log back again as it apparently corrupts the Xauthority?
[11:07] <beepbeep_> I want to automate adding something to a users crontab, so I can't use crontab -e. How would I do this?
[11:07] <k1l_> savig: something like this: http://www.windows10update.com/2015/05/windows-10-tutorials-66-how-to-enable-or-disable-fast-startup/
[11:07] <de-facto> savig i dont know how to "really shut down windows", i just know per default it does hilbernation and fast reboot, but maybe you also can ask in #windows for that
[11:08] <savig> wow thanks for the link  kill_
[11:09] <savig> thanks guys , for the help
[11:09] <savig> I think It should fix the issue
[11:25] <isene> After upgrade to 16.04, my authdeamond got kicked out of the building and I now need to run "/usr/sbin/authdaemond start" upon laptop restart. How do I make sure it runs automatically?
[11:25] <isene> Where do I put what?
[11:27] <Guest92238> Hi All, I'm trying to install eclipse che on 14.04. What is the ubuntu equivalent command for "bin/che.sh run --remote:<ip>"
[11:28] <Ben64> Guest92238: "bin/che.sh run --remote:<ip>"
[11:28] <Ben64> Guest92238: although i have no idea what "eclipse che" is or why you're running a random sh file
[11:29] <BluesKaj> Hey folks
[11:30] <Guest92238> Ben64: what is the remote ip here?
[11:31] <Ben64> Guest92238: ?
[11:33] <brunch875> Guest92238: It shouldn't differ from other distributions. As in "the ubuntu equivalent" should be "exactly the same"
[11:33] <brunch875> unless your manual specifies otherwise
[11:33] <tonio> #meta-it
[11:35] <Guest92238> brunch875: so here is the context. I has intalled the eclipse che on AWS ec2 ubuntu 14.04 instance. But I'm not able to access the eclipse che through the browser
[11:35] <OerHeks> Open source workspace server and cloud IDE. http://eclipse.org/che .. so you run it in docker?
[11:36] <OerHeks> .. che in docker on top of 14.04 on aws ?
[11:37] <Guest92238> OerHeks: yes, in docker
[11:37] <Guest92238> OerHeks: I had follwed this guide: https://eclipse-che.readme.io/docs/configuration-che-on-ec2
[11:39] <OerHeks> why not docker direct ? https://docs.docker.com/engine/installation/cloud/cloud-ex-aws/
[11:41] <NetworkingPro> Hey everyone.
[11:45] <Guest92238> OerHeks: it only talks about docker but not the eclipse che
[11:45] <wuu> NetworkingPro: hi
[11:46] <NetworkingPro> how are ya wuu ?
[11:48] <wuu> NetworkingPro: productive morning but running low on coffee -> emegency is at hand
[11:49] <NetworkingPro> wuu:  I can understand that. I'm debating on coffee. I can't just drink it black, so I have to add sugary things to it.
[11:50]  * NetworkingPro is also trying to figure out why my android wear device wont show up in the UP app.
[11:52] <Dulcin> Hi, I was on a fully updated Ubuntu 15.10 and ran do-release-upgrade this morning. Later it was on a locked screen and I was unable to log in, now the locked screen is frozen... when I check the processes I dont see any heavy processor usage... is it safe to reboot?
[11:52] <Dulcin> or should I wait or do something else?
[11:53] <wuu> NetworkingPro: nah everybody should drink it as they like - can't realy say this is the only way - my coffee version is dependent on multiple states ;)
[11:53] <Dulcin> My mouse still works in the lockscreen, but pressing the cancel button doesnt seem to do anything and the password field is disabled
[11:53] <mcphail> Dulcin: you're the 2nd person I've seen report that in here. Can you file a bug, please?
[11:53] <wuu> NetworkingPro: what UP app ?
[11:54] <Dulcin> Ok, what did the previous person do to fix it?
[11:54] <wuu> Dulcin: can you still switch to the virtual shells ?
[11:54] <mcphail> Dulcin: if you log into a virtual terminal and run "ps aux | grep update" and "ps aux | grep dpkg" it will show whether anything else is still running from the updater
[11:54] <Dulcin> wuu: I can
[11:54] <Dulcin> Ok ill do that
[11:54] <wuu> :)
[11:55] <mcphail> Dulcin: I had to do a similar thing as Compiz crashed during the update. I wonder if the same thing happens when the screen locks?
[11:55] <Dulcin> There's 3 processes with system-crash-notification
[11:55] <MrZone_> What does the "do-release-upgrade" command do?
[11:55] <wuu> Dulcin: mcphail is faster than me <- I'll fetch some coffee
[11:56] <mcphail> Dulcin: they'll be awaiting confirmation in the GUI which you will never be able to give them. Just kill htem
[11:56] <NetworkingPro> Im not so hot at awk, would someone mind helping me out?     Im doing this command:  ps -eo pid,cmd,etime | grep vlc
[11:56] <NetworkingPro> which returns 57354 /usr/bin/vlc -I dummy -vvv     15:35:00
[11:56] <NetworkingPro> I want to use awk to single out just the pid
[11:56] <lelapin> Hellooooo
[11:57] <beliali> hello good people. im trying to run a binary, but am getting errors. checking strace i can see that its a permission issue (open("/filename.so.7", O_RDONLY|O_CLOEXEC) = -1 EACCES (Permission denied)). The permissions look fine, ownership too. The weird part is that if i reboot the machine the issue goes away. I tried running ldconfig to no avail. A
[11:57] <beliali> ny help would be appreciated.
[11:57] <Habbie> beliali, literally "/filename.so.7" ?
[11:57] <beliali> :) no
[11:57] <lelapin> If any good adviser on Linux software and tweaks is available I could use some advice. Thx. :)
[11:57] <Habbie> lelapin, just ask your question in here
[11:58] <survietamine> hello, is there a recommend way to build deb packages? Xenial provides dovecot 2.2.22 and I'd like to have 2.2.24 which is available on http://xi.dovecot.fi/debian/dists/ but it will be replaced by latest nightly.
[11:58] <Dulcin> Ok I tried 'reboot' but it says 'Operation inhibited by 'UpdateManager' PID 2685 "xenial", user root), reason is "updating system". Guess I'll wait a bit longer
[11:58] <survietamine> So, what would be a "good strategy"? Can I get the xi sources packages and try to imitate it?
[11:59] <beliali> The actual filename is a symlink to the actual lib file. The symlinks and everything is fine. The point here being that if i reboot the machine there's no more permission problem. Thats why im stumped.. If more information is needed - tell me :)
[11:59] <Habbie> beliali, the real name, you showing that all the perms are okay, would be a good start
[11:59] <Ben64> survietamine: good strategy is to use the packages from the ubuntu repository
[11:59] <mcphail> Dulcin: yep. Just check there are no processes asking for user input which will be blocking the update
[12:00] <mcphail> survietamine: hacking around with hand-rolled .debs is a good way to break your system entirely
[12:00] <beliali> Habbie
[12:00] <beliali> └── #ls -la /usr/local/ze-clamav/lib/libclamav.so.7
[12:00] <beliali> lrwxrwxrwx 1 root root 18 May 19 08:03 /usr/local/ze-clamav/lib/libclamav.so.7 -> libclamav.so.7.1.1
[12:00] <beliali> -rwxr-xr-x 1 root root 18759045 May 19 08:03 /usr/local/ze-clamav/lib/libclamav.so.7.1.1
[12:00] <survietamine> Ben64: but 2.2.22 shipped with Xenial is somehow broken
[12:00] <beliali> open("/usr/local/ze-clamav/lib/libclamav.so.7", O_RDONLY|O_CLOEXEC) = -1 EACCES (Permission denied)
[12:00] <Habbie> beliali, please use a pastebin and show permissions for all path components
[12:00] <beliali> yeah that makes more sense lol
[12:01] <lelapin> Thx Habbie . I have to translate - on the fly- in french an audio interview, and I wondered if there was an easier way than Ctrl-tabbing between Audacious and [any] wordprocessor or text editor so I can synchronize the sound I need to ear and the focus that should stay on the wordprocessor.
[12:01] <Ben64> survietamine: then post a bug report about it
[12:01] <EriC^^> beliali: check the dirs leading up to that file
[12:01] <Dulcin> mcphail: is there an easy way to check for those?
[12:02] <beliali> EriC yeah i did that. And once again - if i reboot the server the issue goes away just like that without any more changes
[12:02] <lelapin> I've seen that Audacious has many plugins, but I found none that could give a direct play/pause (at least) command without leaving WP's focus.
[12:02] <survietamine> Ben64: so, the maintainer of that package doesn't check dovecot announcements on dovecot's mailing sites?
[12:03] <Habbie> beliali, anything in dmesg before reboot?
[12:03] <survietamine> Ben64: because on previous LTS I'm using, it's somehow never got upgrades
[12:03] <beliali> Habbie, EriC http://p.defau.lt/?VaXSmmT3EDls45zLIB73ag
[12:03] <Ben64> survietamine: not sure what you're saying
[12:04] <Habbie> beliali, and the path components?
[12:04] <mcphail> Dulcin: see https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/ubuntu-release-upgrader/+bug/1573952 for an example of what happened to me
[12:04] <survietamine> Ben64: when new stable releases of dovecot are available, the author publishs new features and bug fixes
[12:04] <beliali> Habbie how do i show them ?
[12:04] <Habbie> beliali, ls -ald /usr /usr/local /usr/local/ze-clamav etc.
[12:04] <beliali> right
[12:04] <Ben64> survietamine: in ubuntu, versions of packages stay the same, to keep everything working together properly. bugs still do get fixed and backported or whatever
[12:04] <Habbie> beliali, are you in fact root when you do this?
[12:05] <beliali> Habbie http://p.defau.lt/?dr3eZfdWEiZo16QYEzBjlg
[12:06] <beliali> And yes, im root
[12:06] <Habbie> ok, anything in dmesg? or other logs?
[12:06] <Habbie> i'm thinking apparmor maybe
[12:07] <lelapin> Habbie, well, that doesn't seem to inspire anybody. ;)
[12:07] <Habbie> lelapin, it happens
[12:07] <Habbie> lelapin, audacity doesn't respect the media keys on your keyboard?
[12:07] <beliali> dont know what apparmor is. Habbie, should i be looking for smth specific in dmesg ?
[12:08] <Habbie> beliali, anything involving 'deny' or whatever around the time you try to run freshclam
[12:09] <crocodilehunter> hello. I want to help document ZFS more. can anybody point me in the righ5 direction?
[12:10] <lelapin> Habbie, No. I have an old Logitech kbd with MM keys actually, but only the special sound volume ones are active. All the extra function keys are not. (and if they were, would they go directly to Audacity if the focus is elsewhere ?).
[12:10] <beliali> nothing in dmesg, syslog or kern.log when getting the permission denied :/ Gonna do a reboot and check the logfile
[12:14] <Dulcin> ill be back
[12:17] <beliali> Nothing that stands out in dmesg when rebooting either. There's obviously a bunch of stuff which i have no idea what means but nothing obvious..
[12:19] <Goeland86> hi all, I've run into a curious issue since I upgraded from 15.10 to 16.04 - my phone won't appear in Nautilus anymore. I've double checked the udev libmtp rules (and hwdb file) to add my device back into it, rebooted, and still nothing in Nautilus. mtp-detect sees my phone, so what am I missing?
[12:21] <bratner> Hi! After upgrade to 16.04 from 15.10, media volume-up/down keys stopped working on a wireless keyboard. Media keys work fine on the wired one.  Anyone has an idea how to debug this?
[12:27] <Cablegunmaster_> question I am using a bashrc script to change my terminal title using set-title now im using it in a bash script but it only works after a "enter" has been inputted
[12:27] <Cablegunmaster_> how can I simulate a "enter" in bash? :)
[12:27] <beliali> Habbie you mentioned AppArmor. Anything i can check with that to see whats up ?
[12:27] <Habbie> beliali, i haven't worked with apparmor myself, i suggest googling a bit
[12:29] <CLoPa> Hi, I'm struggling to remove the popcorntime completely, which I had installed through wine. I'd tried remove it using the wine itself, but it doesn't remove the icons. Have anyone an idea how to remove the icons it?
[12:30] <Goeland86> nvm found my problem - I was missing a line in /etc/fuse.conf
[12:30] <mcphail> CLoPa: look for .desktop files under ~/.local/share/applications/wine/ and remove the popcorn time one
[12:31] <CLoPa> Nice! Thanks!
[12:31] <vinit> hello
[12:31] <momomo> how do you run the update software to check for any updates?
[12:31] <momomo> i have the automatic disabled
[12:31] <momomo> sudo apt-get update is not working
[12:32] <lyze> momomo, what's the error message you receive?
[12:32] <vinit> i have upgraded ubunut 15.10 to 16.10 there are lots of error showing with red minus sign on my desktop
[12:32] <vinit> 16.04
[12:32] <momomo> lyze, i am not sure i get an error .. but i get this for update: http://hastebin.com/asuvuruwen.pas
[12:32] <momomo> at the end
[12:32] <momomo> so fucking retarded that it stops working becasue some repo stops working
[12:34] <vinit> momomo uninstall your update manager then reinstall it your error will be solved
[12:34] <momomo> vinit, command?
[12:37] <momomo> fuck this... nothing ever works in crapubuntu
[12:37] <k1l_> momomo: please tone down the language.
[12:38] <momomo> cause -> action
[12:38] <k1l_> the cause is you useing 3rd party repos that dont work
[12:38] <momomo> k1l_, they used to work
[12:38] <momomo> and now they down
[12:38] <momomo> dont
[12:39] <k1l_> and the ppa you use there doesnt even support 15.10
[12:39] <momomo> and i have to be a f**** brain surgeon and waste an hour fixing
[12:39] <momomo> it
[12:39] <MrZone> >find new repo that works
[12:39] <MrZone> >use it
[12:39] <MrZone> profit?
[12:39] <mcphail> momomo: then, perhaps, the sensible thing would be for you to avoid using PPAs in the future. They all come with a warning
[12:40] <k1l_> momomo: remove that videolan repo and the wrong ppa then. easy as that.
[12:40] <MrZone> bulding from source is what? "make ." and then "make install"?
[12:40] <momomo> mcphail, maybe in the future, ubuntu will learn to **** handle such scenarios .. because people do need to use ppas because not everything is in the default repos
[12:40] <MrZone> momomo: If the repo is down then what is the problem that you are faceing? Just remove it?
[12:41] <momomo> and why have a software updater and a separate software center ... why not just have one place for all .. where you can view your updates as well
[12:41] <k1l_> MrZone: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/CheckInstall
[12:41] <momomo> MrZone, i am not sure what the problem is
[12:41] <MrZone> k1l_: The more you know
[12:42] <MrZone> momomo: If you cannot reach or use the repo then you are going to need to remove it and find another one
[12:42] <k1l_> MrZone: checkinstall will make it to a package (only for your system). so you could remove that more easily
[12:42] <MrZone> k1l_: Yeah i gathered that. How does it decide on what to name the package?
[12:43] <k1l_> MrZone: good question :) maybe from the make scripts?
[12:44] <momomo> still no update dialog .. despite no errors
[12:44] <momomo> i am on xfce
[12:44] <momomo> but it should still work
[12:44] <imr> hi, I uninstalled Zsh, because I was going back to BASH. but now *any* terminal emulator won't bring up a command line. halp?
[12:45] <k1l_> MrZone: it will ask for that sort.
[12:45] <frudo> hi
[12:45] <frudo> i have maked image from root disk to another disk ..
[12:46] <MrZone> k1l_: coolbeans
[12:46] <frudo> another disk attached with new machine its not opening
[12:49] <aep> how do i debug "Job failed to start"? where are the logs for that?
[12:49] <aep> in upstart
[12:51] <n0had0> hi is anybody else having problems with updating thunderbird?
[12:52] <n0had0> its hanging on 80% for the last 10 minutes now
[12:52] <k1l_> what problems?
[12:52] <n0had0> ive changed the mirror a few times
[12:53] <n0had0> if i use the updater i get an error to check my internet connection
[12:53] <n0had0> so i resorted to trying through terminal
[12:59] <user807> I've been googling a bit but only seem to find old search results. Is there a good way to get a Dash to also act directly as a calculator in 16.04?
[13:03] <noonehere_> I'm using 15.10 and I have msgs whenever I update whether I want to upgrade to 16.04... how is the upgrade these days?
[13:03] <noonehere_> I'm using kernel 4.2 so I guess it will be upgraded to 4.4?
[13:04] <OerHeks> download the iso, put it on usb, for safety, then hit the upgrade button
[13:05] <OerHeks> if you didn't have a backup of your data, it wasn't important
[13:05] <n0had0> so, about that problem with thunderbird update
[13:07] <tubbln> does anyone have wifislax installed on ubuntu?
[13:11] <soverc> Is anyone using 16.04 server in a production capicity ? 14.04 is flawless for us. Since we use no openstack on the servers and I can upgrade python and Nginx myself why would I use 16.04 yet ?
[13:12] <Habbie> because it delays mandatory upgrades by 3 years
[13:12] <Habbie> because today it's python and nginx but later you might find yourself missing newer versions of more things
[13:14] <pc_> gfro
[13:14] <dadidado> hi
[13:14] <pc_> habla
[13:15] <dadidado> when I tried the <alt> menu a long time ago, the menus presented expended to system ones when the keyword was not found in the current window
[13:15] <soverc> Habbie, understand about the support. Hesitant since it is new(ish) - Having said this issue outloud I will just stand up a few 16.04s and test against for 6months to a year and then just upgrade all.
[13:15] <Habbie> soverc, if everything works today it does make sense to give 16.04 a month or 6 indeed
[13:15] <Habbie> soverc, i don't like .0 versions either ;)
[13:15] <dadidado> for exemple, beeing in firefox and pressing <alt> then typing VPN would present networkmanager's VPN menu
[13:16] <dadidado> is there any way to have that back ?
[13:16] <dadidado> I searched for hud options and appmenu options, but didn't find anything
[13:17] <soverc> Habbie, I have 4 other 14.04s, going to keep the new one the same.....thanks for lisiting to me TYPE outloud
[13:17] <Habbie> soverc, :)
[13:18] <dadidado> does someone know the exact name of the <alt> menu ? appmenu/globalmenu/hud ?
[13:23] <Glenn> Hi
[13:25] <tartas> hello does anybody here speak greek
[13:25] <Ace> hi
[13:25] <Ace> again
[13:26] <tartas> Ace; you speak greek?
[13:26] <Ace> sorry why?
[13:26] <DJones> !gr | tartas
[13:26] <Ace> nope
[13:26] <tartas> DJones; what's that
[13:26] <tartas> i didn't get anything
[13:27] <DJones> tartas: I thought there was a factoid to give info on the greek language channel, obviously not
[13:28] <tartas> actually there's #ubuntu-gr
[13:28] <DJones> tartas: I think the greek language channel is #ubuntu-gr
[13:28] <DJones> Thats what I was looking for
[13:29] <akis> hi all. I am wondering if a command  at erminal without sudo can make any change at system files?
[13:29] <noonehere_> OerHeks,  how do you put it on usb?  Do you know?
[13:29] <platter> I'm currently running 'sudo fsck.ext4 -fyvc /dev/...' on the drive, which failed during dist-upgrade (and it found 41/0/0 errors). Should I have used -C0? Or is that just a progress bar?
[13:29] <noonehere_> Also, I installed Ubuntu Gnome...should I choose that?
[13:29] <DJones> !bot
[13:30] <lyze> !gr
[13:32] <soverc> anyone everu used http://www.howopensource.com/2014/09/simple-linux-backup-to-dropbox/ or anything like it. I dont care to populate and connect to dropbox, only to push backups to
[13:32] <platter> ah sorry, found the manual now for fsck.ext4, -C0 is just the progress bar. I misunderstood what's written here https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FilesystemTroubleshooting
[13:34] <de-facto> akis it depends on how your system is configures. normally system files are owned by root and normally users not in root group woudl only have read access (644). but that  depends on the permissions, e.g. if some files are 777 or such everyone could write to them. you can see details by "stat /path/to/file"
[13:35] <n0had0> can anybody download this or is it just me?
[13:35] <n0had0> http://au.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/pool/main/t/thunderbird/thunderbird_38.8.0+build1-0ubuntu0.14.04.1_amd64.deb
[13:36] <akis> de-facto: i gave this command: ln -s /usr/share/applications/{org.gnome.FileRoller.desktop,file-roller.desktop} which i read somewhere. What kind (if any) of change could made on my system and how can i check it? after i gave the command the syste returned no error.
[13:37] <platter> Is there a good way to recover from a failed dist-upgrade to 14.04 (was hanging at a dpkg setup step, as far as I was told, does not boot linux now) while I currently have the drive in a different, running 14.04 system?
[13:40] <Powerless> does anyone know how to make the scanner from the brother dcp8065dn work?
[13:40] <de-facto> akis it expands those (the {...} ) then gives several arguments to the program "ln" which makes symbolic links with the "-s" option. normally it woudl do that in the current directory as the user you currently are. but as it expands it will link ln -s <source> <destination> see "man ln". in short if you were not root or used sudo, and normal user does not have write access in /usr/share/applications/ you shoudl be fine
[13:40] <Powerless> ubuntu 16.04 LTS
[13:42] <skinux> How do I get the bottom-panel of 16.04 without actually installing 16.04?
[13:42] <skinux> Is it possible?
[13:43] <akis> de-facto: i was not root but only simple user and no sudo was at the begining of this command just to be sure that no change will effect my system. i was wondering because the system returned no error after i gave the command (wihout sudo)
[13:45] <_russo> platter: your best bet is to make a clean install media for 14.04 and do a new installation over your current one leaving all your documents intact...
[13:46] <noonehere_> did anyone reply to me? sorry
[13:46] <platter> thanks _russo, that's what I "feared".
[13:48] <platter> n0had0: seems fine, curl -I gives status 200 and Content-Length: 33023888
[13:54] <Dulcin> What would happen if I reboot my PC during do-release-upgrade? (since my gui is frozen and I dont think its still doing anything even though the process is still there)
[13:55] <Dulcin> It's been like this for a couple of hours now
[13:56] <n0had0> trying to update thunderbird
[13:57] <n0had0> on the main server i get Connection failed [IP: 91.189.91.26 80]
[13:57] <n0had0> and on au server i get hash mismatch
[13:57] <pryorda> Hey Guys,
[13:58] <pryorda> Where is the file manager preferences?
[13:58] <n0had0> im tried  sudo rm -rf /var/lib/apt/lists/*
[13:58] <pryorda> I dont have a drop down thingy like this link shows
[13:58] <n0had0> the update
[13:58] <pryorda> https://help.ubuntu.com/16.04/ubuntu-help/nautilus-views.html
[13:58] <n0had0> im on 14.04 lts
[13:59] <n0had0> *14.04.4
[13:59] <pryorda> nvm figured it up
[13:59] <pryorda> n0had0: that wasnt for you
[13:59] <pryorda> what issue are you having?
[14:01] <n0had0> i am trying to update thunderbird. on the main server i get Connection failed [IP: 91.189.91.26 80] with any au server i get hash sum mismatch. ive tried several things and searching ubuntu has led me to believe this is normally an issue occuring with old unsupported ppas however im on 14.04.4 LTS
[14:02] <n0had0> all the ppas are trusty
[14:02] <pryorda> gist your error
[14:02] <n0had0> save for one google one which i deleted in hopes it would work
[14:08] <platter> n0had0: I would first try a third mirror
[14:08] <blacknred0> is there a way that I could attach the results of grep and do echo?
[14:08] <n0had0> platter ive used a few different au mirrors
[14:08] <EriC^^> echo to where black
[14:08] <EriC^^> blacknred0:
[14:09] <Glenn> How to setup multiple WLAN
[14:10] <Nimonas> hi
[14:11] <blacknred0> EriC^^ so I am going grep -c 'something special' file.txt, and I get a number (let's say 5)  now, I would like to do echo "this is the result" 5
[14:11] <aethelrick> blacknred0, grep "echos" it's results to the screen you can redirect these to a file or to another program using >, >> or | e.g. grep "something" somewhere > results.txt
[14:12] <EriC^^> blacknred0: result=$(grep -c ... file) , then echo $result later
[14:13] <blacknred0> thanks EriC^^
[14:13] <EriC^^> blacknred0: no problem
[14:14] <blacknred0> aethelrick: i'm trying to avoid storing it on a a file :) , but I'll keep that in mind for future ref
[14:14] <davesidious> Hey folks - has anyone else had problems with lightdm not starting automatically after upgrading to 16.04 (with nvidia proprietary drivers)?
[14:16] <n0had0> so two more software sources
[14:16] <n0had0> the second one hanging on 79% a UK mirror
[14:17] <n0had0> trying one in spain cause fuck it why not right
[14:17] <k1l_> n0had0: is the download hanging?
[14:18] <n0had0> that one did
[14:18] <k1l_> n0had0: do you use some sort of proxy or vpn?
[14:18] <n0had0> usually it completes to 100% then i get an error to check my net connection
[14:18] <n0had0> nope no proxy or vpn, the farthest i went was changed the dns on my router to google dns
[14:19] <n0had0> it has since been changed back to my isp and still the same problem
[14:19] <n0had0> spanish mirror giving me hashsum mismatch
[14:19] <k1l_> your disk isnt full?
[14:20] <k1l_> i wonder why it hsould always stop at 80% on that package.
[14:20] <aep> is there a way to not execute post install scripts?
[14:20] <n0had0> 50gb+ free
[14:20] <n0had0> well ive triple checked software sources
[14:21] <n0had0> afaik internet is working fine
[14:21] <k1l_> the update should come from the security servers anyway.
[14:22] <n0had0> yes this is what is making this abit important
[14:22] <n0had0> im thinking of just removing thunderbird completely
[14:22] <k1l_> can you please show the exact output from your terminal in paste.ubuntu.com ?
[14:24] <mcphail> n0had0: MTU set incorrectly?
[14:24] <n0had0> automatic
[14:25] <n0had0> k1l_ http://paste.ubuntu.com/16507039/
[14:25] <de-facto> akis you can see the shell expansion (which depends on the files currently present) by "echo ls -s /usr/share/applications/{org.gnome.FileRoller.desktop,file-roller.desktop}" just echoing back what it would run with such a command
[14:26] <k1l_> n0had0: did you run "sudo apt update" first?
[14:26] <n0had0> of course
[14:27] <n0had0> i was switching between software sources
[14:27] <akis> de-facto: the system answered: ls -s /usr/share/applications/org.gnome.FileRoller.desktop /usr/share/applications/file-roller.desktop
[14:27] <n0had0> so naturally updating as i went along
[14:27] <Trym> Need help configuring ufw firewall
[14:28] <k1l_> n0had0: it didnt even load that file now. it just checked the hash of the old downloaded onbe
[14:28] <k1l_> *one
[14:29] <n0had0> ok hold on
[14:29] <de-facto> akis yeah seems fine then i guess, those files exist on my unmodified system too (regular files). i guess what was meant by that command is place a link to those from your current directory as it would when running "ln -s /path/to/file" which woudl create a symlink called "file" in your current dir pointing to /path/to/file
[14:30]  * riqdiiz Part
[14:30] <thinky> hi there
[14:30] <thinky> why does ubuntu dims the screen while i am watching online movie, or youtube videos or listening music?
[14:31] <de-facto> akis actually what probably was meant in your guide was "ln -s /usr/share/applications/file-roller.desktop" and "ln -s /usr/share/applications/org.gnome.FileRoller.desktop" placing links in your current directory "pwd" to those files
[14:31] <platter> How can I install (L)ubuntu 14.04 from a 13.xx USB boot medium? I'd like to keep the USB as is, it's a backup/fallback.
[14:32] <akis> de-facto: so it is concluded that no change was made and no symlink was made with this command?
[14:32] <Trym> Firewall ufw config help?
[14:32] <somsip> Trym: specify the problem and someone might know
[14:33] <Trym> Hi somsip . Want to deny all in and out. And open for some ip out from my server
[14:34] <nuex> i have a thinkpad x240 with ubuntu 14.04 and every time my laptop suspends audio stops working for my headphones (only) and it makes me sad
[14:34] <k1l_> thinky: because your flashplayer doesnt block the dimming like real video players do
[14:34] <nuex> i've looked everywhere on the internet fiddling with different audio things and nothing works
[14:34] <nuex> has anyone else experienced this?
[14:34] <de-facto> akis jup i guess so since "stat /usr/share/applications" shows 0755/drwxr-xr-x  which and owned my root GID, you can try "touch /usr/share/applications/file" as a normal user which woudl deny your write access to that location
[14:35] <akis> de-facto: touch: cannot touch '/usr/share/applications/file': Permission denied
[14:35] <de-facto> exactly
[14:35] <n0had0> k1l_  ive used autoclean and clean to try and remove the package
[14:36] <thinky> k1l_: but it happens while i am running video with VLC player too
[14:36] <ecojustice> knuex a keyword search term that generally helps with unrecognized audio devices is: "an asound.conf file"
[14:36] <akis> de-facto: so this is solved as i guess. one more...now...if echo doesn't return anything what does it mean?
[14:36] <eein> hello. how can one correct dependency errors when a package has the wrong version listed as a dependency. in my case ruby 1 is being used when ruby 2 should
[14:37] <ecojustice> not a solution, just an idea. standby so some ubuntu devs can help
[14:37] <BluesKaj> thinky, your power settings, dim screen default times etc
[14:37] <thinky> BluesKaj: it is good to dim the screen but i dont want it while i am watching or listening something
[14:37] <aethelrick> thinky, have a look in settings->brightness & lock... is the "dim" option set?
[14:38] <de-facto> akis echo returns what you give it as argument so "echo" just returns a newline but "   echo 'some cool string'    " returns you  that string with a newline
[14:38] <thinky> yes it is on aethelrick
[14:38] <aethelrick> thinky, try turning it off and see if this helps
[14:38] <thinky> it is something ubuntu doesnt recognize while i am watching or listening that i am using the system
[14:39] <n0had0> k1l_ http://paste.ubuntu.com/16507200/
[14:39] <thinky> aethelrick: i dont want to disable screen dim option just it shouldnt dim while i am watching
[14:39] <BluesKaj> thinky, it will if there's no input device activity , mouse or KB
[14:40] <thinky> mouse and keyboard is working without problem
[14:40] <aethelrick> thinky, ubuntu does not know you're sat there if you're not doing anything with the mouse/keyboard. If your app does not tell ubuntu to refrain from dimming then you must (or poke a key every now and again)
[14:40] <k1l_> n0had0: your network got an issue with big files.
[14:40] <thinky> i already poke a key when it happens aethelrick but it is annoying..
[14:40] <n0had0> how can i be sure of this
[14:40] <k1l_> where bis is 30mb :/
[14:40] <k1l_> *big
[14:41] <n0had0> would downloading a larger file make a difference
[14:41] <de-facto> akis bash is very powerfull and can save you a lot of time, if you like you can read more about it on tutorials like those listed here http://wiki.bash-hackers.org/scripting/tutoriallist   also there is always #bash on freenode :)
[14:41] <somsip> thinky: it's not a mobile phone that can detect when you're looking at it. Give it input, or change the settings
[14:41] <n0had0> i just downloaded raspian
[14:41] <akis> de-facto: more specifically...after i gave the command we discussed already, i gave this command to in my /home/user/.local/share/applications/ : ln -s org.gnome.FileRoller.desktop file-roller.desktop but i didnt see any change or symlink, so i gave: ln -s org.gnome.FileRoller.desktop,file-roller.desktop and again no change. Then i gave as advise me : echo ln -s org.gnome.FileRoller.desktop,file-roller.desktop and no answer was given. what happe
[14:41] <akis> ned?
[14:41] <BluesKaj> thinky, then change the dim screen timing
[14:41] <somsip> n0had0: not supported here
[14:41] <k1l_> n0had0: try to load it here for your matching architecture: http://packages.ubuntu.com/trusty/thunderbird
[14:41] <nickanon> Hello.. I am currently on ubuntu 15.04. I have separate root and home partition. I have downloaded 16.04. Can I install 16.04 only erasing root partition or I have to create a new partition table again?
[14:42] <thinky> somsip: how can i give it input?
[14:42] <thinky> by poking a button?
[14:42] <somsip> thinky: key or mouse, as you've been told
[14:42] <de-facto> akis you need full source paths for those
[14:42] <thinky> windows recognizes it
[14:42] <thinky> but ubuntu doesnt
[14:42] <somsip> thinky: no, it doesn't as you've been told
[14:42] <thinky> it s not about mobile
[14:43] <BluesKaj> nickanon, yes , but make sure you use manual partitoning (something else) and set the mountpoint for /home without formatting it
[14:43] <k1l_> n0had0: after that use "sudo dpkg-i packagename" to install that
[14:43] <thinky> windows recognizes pc is under use while i am watching
[14:43] <lyze> nickanon, why don't you just upgrade?
[14:43] <akis> de-facto: i was inside /home/user/.local/share/applications after cd
[14:43] <somsip> thinky: this isn't windows. It doesn't do that. As you've been told
[14:43] <n0had0> it wont even download....
[14:44] <thinky> ubuntu should fix this problem..
[14:44] <somsip> !bug | thinky
[14:44] <de-facto> akis so you "cd  /home/user/.local/share/applications/" then "ln -s /usr/share/applications/file-roller.desktop" and "ln -s /usr/share/applications/org.gnome.FileRoller.desktop" then you can see those with "ls -l {org.gnome.FileRoller.desktop,file-roller.desktop}" (note the last is LS)
[14:44] <n0had0> but i just started downloading a 1gig file to see if its actually my net
[14:45] <mikeymop> hey guys
[14:45] <k1l_> n0had0: could be an dns or routing issue.
[14:45] <n0had0> 500mb downloaded so far
[14:45] <n0had0> 2 min left
[14:45] <n0had0> would it be a problem with the website do you think?
[14:46] <n0had0> can you download that file?
[14:46] <aethelrick> thinky, if I were you I would simply untick the box to dim the screen OR you could write a shell script to inhibit the screen saver when certain programs were running (like VLC etc)
[14:47] <k1l_> n0had0: had no issues with http://security.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/pool/main/t/thunderbird/thunderbird_38.8.0+build1-0ubuntu0.14.04.1_amd64.deb
[14:47] <thinky> aethelrick: like caffein?
[14:48] <k1l_> thinky: it is working on ubuntu for real media players. like vlc or totem and such. its just that rubbish flash players in browser that is not working.
[14:48] <thinky> never mind
[14:48] <akis> de-facto: both files are there. i know that, but no symlink was created (actually now i dont want to create any symlink), just wondering want changes (if any) was done.
[14:48] <thinky> thanks for your advices
[14:48] <k1l_> thinky: and that is not a bug, its a feature. since you dont want to allow flash to have any access to your system since its a security issue
[14:49] <HackerII> ^
[14:49] <aethelrick> thinky, yes, just like caffiene
[14:49] <thinky> but k1l_ nowadays online streaming websites using html5 instead of flash
[14:49] <k1l_> thinky: not all.
[14:49] <thinky> yep not all
[14:50] <thinky> i just checked current website i was trying to watch lol
[14:50] <thinky> it is flash !
[14:50] <thebishop> hi all.  i'm reading that bumblebee is no longer the best solution for Optimus/Prime on Ubuntu.  is that true?  do i need to logout/login to use nvidia now?
[14:51] <de-facto> akis if you invoke ln like "ln -s /path/to/source" it creates a symlink under the same name in current directory (source), if you invoke it with one more argument you can create under different name like "ln -s /path/to/source /path/to/symlink"
[14:51] <k1l_> thebishop: ubuntu uses the official nvidia driver: nvidia-prime since some time
[14:54] <thebishop> k1l_: two things about that.  #1: it's limited by whatever version is packaged for apt install.  #2: nvidia-prime can't do hybrid graphics properly.  you can't selectively launch an app on the gpu.  you have to logout and log back into an nvidia desktop session
[14:54] <BluesKaj> thinky, even youtube still uses flash with some videos despite their highly advertized switch to HTML5
[14:56] <k1l_> thebishop: afaik nvidia-prime can launch apps differently. but i cant test that since i dont have that hardware.
[14:56] <k1l_> thebishop: and ubuntu ships nvdia-prime matching the nvidia drivers in the repos.
[14:57] <thebishop> k1l_: hmm, maybe it's been improved. i'll give it a shot. ok so it's still limited by the repos which are often a few releases behind nvidia
[14:57] <k1l_> thebishop: you can still ask nvidia for support for their website drivers.
[14:58] <thebishop> :)
[14:59] <de-facto> thebishop you can try to use some of https://launchpad.net/~graphics-drivers/+archive/ubuntu/ppa?field.series_filter=xenial   but those might be unstable and unsupported, so using those might not be the best idea
[15:00] <akis> de-facto: one more think, and thanks in advance for your time today. because i had some issues with thunar-archive-plugin i recently did sudo apt-get purge thunar-archive-plugin and then i create some custom actions to enable archive facilities through Thunar. My question is if sudo apt-get purge thunar-archive-plugin was deleted ay file that it has to do with this plug in or there is any chance for any left back?
[15:00] <n0had0> k1l_ what was that command to install the .deb
[15:00] <thebishop> de-facto: looks promising, thanks
[15:01] <k1l_> n0had0: sudo dpkg -i /path/to/packaname.deb
[15:01] <de-facto> thebishop again, you might be on your own using those though
[15:01] <n0had0> cheers
[15:01] <thebishop> de-facto: i always am ;)
[15:01] <n0had0> so i have a question
[15:01] <n0had0> i could not download an update
[15:02] <n0had0> until i tried through a vpn
[15:02] <n0had0> wtf is happening
[15:03] <de-facto> akis "sudo apt-get purge <package name>" or "sudo apt-get remove --purge <package name>" will remove that package plus its configuration see "man apt-get"
[15:04] <n0had0> anyone?
[15:05] <akis> de-facto: the same i know, but i just wanted a confirmation that no package's relevant files are still in the system
[15:05] <Glenn>  How to setup multiple WLAN
[15:05] <k1l_> either your routing is broken, or your dns is broken, or your firewall is making issues, n0had0
[15:06] <de-facto> akis if that command succeeded, then yes the config for that package is gone
[15:06] <n0had0> k1l_ what i dont get is it was only an issue with that one security file
[15:07] <n0had0> literally nothing else
[15:07] <n0had0> so im curious how you come to that conclusion
[15:07] <k1l_> n0had0: the rest was not from the security servers
[15:08] <akis> de-facto: ok, nice to read this. thank you for all your kind advices. is there any command to see the last changes on the system?
[15:09] <platter> n0had0 is it possible the file was wrongly cached by your isp?
[15:09] <de-facto> akis "cat /var/log/apt/history.log"
[15:10] <n0had0> wouldnt even know how to find out
[15:10] <n0had0> so ill go with yes
[15:10] <n0had0> 'probably'
[15:12] <de-facto> akis its very nice that you learn the terminal cli ways, those are very usefull even if you dont have a GUI, but there are also very good gui tools for doing that like "synaptic" for managing packages and many more things, and "gdebi" for installing <package>.deb if you happen to have downloaded a package. but always be carefull if you add things not in the default repos, you trust the builders of such packages with root access to your system
[15:13] <akis> de-facto: your advices are very useful indeed. how much time takes to the system to answer the command "cat /var/log/apt/history.log?
[15:13] <somsip> akis: depends how long it is
[15:14] <Archeus_> how to update graphic drivers ?
[15:14] <Glenn> How to configure multiples lan
[15:16] <Archeus_> how to update graphic drivers ?
[15:16] <de-facto> akis instantly
[15:16] <k1l_> Archeus_: what drivers and why?
[15:16] <rofltech> Archeus_: same way you update the rest of your software usually if on proprietary you can also grab them from nvidia/ati too.
[15:16] <Archeus_> inter graphic drivers
[15:17] <Archeus_> intel
[15:17] <k1l_> Archeus_: they are inside the linux kernel. so you dont need to do stuff.
[15:17] <Archeus_> wht ?
[15:17] <Archeus_> i dont understand
[15:17] <Pici> Archeus_: why do you think you need to update your drivers?
[15:17] <Archeus_> i need to play a game
[15:17] <k1l_> Archeus_: intel includes the drivers into the linux kernel. so you dont need to load stuff yourself.
[15:18] <Archeus_> http://www.newerth.com/smf/index.php/topic,17598.msg193858.html#msg193858
[15:18] <Archeus_> 7th step
[15:18] <Glenn> Did some now something about wireless networking
[15:19] <de-facto> Glenn i guess you can use many WLAN at once (never did that) but i also guess the system woudl use the last one you setup then
[15:19] <k1l_> Archeus_: what is the output of "uname -a"?
[15:19] <Archeus_> wht a sex
[15:19] <Archeus_> sec
[15:19] <Archeus_> sry
[15:20] <Archeus_> http://paste.ubuntu.com/16507858/
[15:20] <Glenn> de-facto:  I have at home two network suss
[15:20] <k1l_> Archeus_: and do you have any issues? with that game?
[15:20] <nacc> those steps seem out of date? I don't think you need to install anything from Intel for their graphics cards
[15:20] <Archeus_> in the game
[15:20] <Archeus_> i cant see stuff
[15:20] <k1l_> Archeus_: what is the output of "lsb_release -d"?
[15:21] <Archeus_> w8
[15:21] <Archeus_> Description:	Ubuntu 14.04.4 LTS
[15:21] <Archeus_> this is the outcome
[15:21] <k1l_> Archeus_: you are using the 15.04 backports kernel. you could use the latest enablement stack kernel and xorg
[15:22] <k1l_> !hwe | Archeus_
[15:22] <de-facto> Glenn afaik LAN takes priority over WLAN but you might be able to use multiple WLAN at once if your card supports it http://askubuntu.com/questions/488588/how-do-i-connect-to-multiple-wifi-networks
[15:22] <user_> 123
[15:22] <de-facto> Glenn but again i never did that, so i dont really know
[15:22] <Archeus_> ah how to do tht stuff ?
[15:22] <nacc> k1l_: isn't that the latest (14.04.4)? 14.04.5 will come out post 16.04.1, iirc
[15:22] <k1l_> Archeus_: read the wiki page, ir explains it
[15:22] <nacc> k1l_: 14.04.4 is the wily lts
[15:23] <nacc> wily lts enablement stack
[15:23] <k1l_> nacc: that numbers dont have anything to do with the kernel stack used.
[15:23] <Glenn> Ho now to connect the wlan to one off the two said
[15:23] <k1l_> nacc: its just the new isos have the kernel. but a 14.04.1 iso installed will become a 14.04.4 with the updates. but will have the old kernel stack.
[15:24] <nacc> k1l_: really? that seems ... confusing and terrible. BUt i see their uname output now and will shutup :)
[15:24] <k1l_> this is a bit confusing and i dont know how to solve that
[15:24] <de-facto> Glenn i guess just using settings > network (the network manager) on those?
[15:24] <nacc> k1l_: yeah, lsb_release is saying you are current with the repository, not that you have that particular stack installed; interesting
[15:24] <k1l_> because most LTS users/admins will grab the pitchforks if you upgrade their kernel stack with regular updates :X
[15:25] <nacc> yep, absolutely
[15:25] <nacc> no, it makes sense, but then triage is a pain :)
[15:25] <Archeus_> so i should follow those steps ?
[15:25] <Archeus_> i mean this command ?
[15:25] <Archeus_>  sudo apt-get install --install-recommends linux-generic-lts-wily xserver-xorg-core-lts-wily xserver-xorg-lts-wily xserver-xorg-video-all-lts-wily xserver-xorg-input-all-lts-wily libwayland-egl1-mesa-lts-wily
[15:25] <Danielh90> Want web server do you guys recommend I use on Ubuntu?
[15:26] <Pici> Danielh90: Unless you need to do something special, apache works just fine.
[15:26] <nacc> Danielh90: the primary alternative is probably nginx
[15:26] <Danielh90> nacc, is nginx simple to use?
[15:27] <k1l_> Archeus_: since i guess you run the 64bit desktop use the "multiarch" line
[15:27] <Archeus_> ohk k
[15:27] <Pici> Danielh90: I find Apache's documentation to be much better than nginx's.
[15:27] <Glenn> Some network specialist here
[15:27] <Danielh90> Pici, Ok
[15:28] <k1l_> Archeus_: i guess you have enabled 32bit arch for wine and stuff?
[15:28] <Archeus_> hmm
[15:28] <Archeus_> idk ?
[15:28] <nacc> Danielh90: i think there is *more* apache documentation than there is for nginx. For basic setups, it's probably easiest to use apache. nginx has some more advanced features and performance, ostensibly.
[15:29] <Danielh90> nacc, oh ok. I know you can setup a rtmp server with nignx. I may just start with Apache's web server and if I need to niginx learn it.
[15:29] <nacc> Danielh90: that seems reasonable :)
[15:30] <Danielh90> nacc, and Pici  Thank you for your help.
[15:30] <nacc> Danielh90: apache is a good technology to understand, and probably makes the migration to nginx easier
[15:31] <Archeus_> btw k1l how to check for tht ?
[15:35] <Canopus> Good afternoon. I upgraded Ubuntu MATE in my raspberry pi 2 to the 16.04 version. Apparently, everything went ok but when the lightdm-kde-greeter screen appears, I note that my keyboard and mouse don't work.
[15:35] <odroid> hi
[15:36] <kyle__> Is anyone else experiencing 16.04 freezing on battery low, but suspending fine when closing the lid?
[15:39] <freerider> hi
[15:40] <freerider> currently running ubuntu-gnome 16.04
[15:40] <freerider> and I get Failed to connect to Mir: Failed to connect to server socket: No such file or directory
[15:40] <freerider> Unable to init server: Could not connect: Connection refused
[15:40] <vcntbydsgn> how do you theme qt apps in gnome?
[15:40] <freerider>  Error: cannot open display: :1
[15:41] <vcntbydsgn> i mean make qt apps also use the gtk themes (Arc)
[15:41] <freerider> this error happen when I try to start a gui from the terminal with docker
[15:41] <OerHeks> isn't mir supposed to run from login/ubuntu?
[15:41] <freerider> Has someone here got the problem?
[15:42] <OerHeks> mir/unity8
[15:42] <Glenn> How have configured two said
[15:43] <freerider> the thing is I'm running ubuntu-gnome and Mir should not be installed at all
[15:43] <freerider> even on vanilla ubuntu I think
[15:43] <OerHeks> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Unity8Desktop
[15:44] <OerHeks> that ishow you get the preview
[15:44] <OerHeks> c/is how
[15:45] <OerHeks> !mir
[15:45] <OerHeks> !unity8
[15:49] <Canopus> I have ssh access to the RPi2 and network connection, so maybe I can fix the keyboard and mouse issues from the command line
[15:49] <Canopus> I tried removing and reinstalling xserver-xorg-input-all, but it's still the same
[15:50] <Canopus> my keyboard and mouse are detected (I can see that from the dmesg output). It's just that they don't work
[15:51] <jonny5000> hello, i have 14.04 installed on a lenovo yoga 13. touchscreen has worked flawlessly for a year and now all of a sudden, for no apparent reason its not working at all.  can anyone help?
[15:53] <damien__> Hi all. I don't what is the exact english term for "trousseau de connexion" (login passwords wallet ?) but I'm trying to add an account to Empathy, and it wants me to unlock this wallet. Problem is that it asks me a password and I don't what one it's asking (not my user password...). Any idea ?
[15:53] <damien__> "I don't KNOW** what is the exact name"
[15:54] <davidmichaelkarr> I'm again looking for help with my odd mic input problem on 15.10 and 16.04, but not 14.04. From these VMs, I run VMWare Horizon View to connect to a Win7 HVD and try to use my USB headset for input and output.  The mic input works on 14.04, but not 15.10 and 16.04.
[15:56] <damien__> Must I create a new wallet ?
[15:57] <damien__> I try to create a new passwords wallet, but the windows is stuck after entering wallet name and clicking "Valid"
[16:01] <damien__> with 2000 people, this channel looks like it's dead o.O Mint channel has 300 people and help is given every second :(
[16:03] <bazhang> damien__, are you on mint
[16:04] <nacc> !patience | damien__
[16:04] <damien__> no I'm on Ubuntu 16.04 but I sometimes help people on Mint
[16:04] <genii> damien__: When there are no support questions being asked, that is a good thing. It means no one is having a problem at the moment.
[16:04] <rcw2> damien__, have you gotten your system up to date with apt-get update & upgrade
[16:04] <nacc> damien__: it's almost certainly your wallet's password, right?
[16:04] <bazhang> damien__, well keep in mind people will answer if they are able
[16:05] <damien__> I'm used with IRC channels, don't worry. I'm just surprised to see so less activity here.
[16:05] <rcw2> damien__, this isn't always "live real-time chat" .... a lot of times it starts out as something between a situation where you post on a forum and live realtime chat
[16:05] <brunch875> join #bash
[16:05] <damien__> nacc, I never entered a wallet password, what is the procedure to give one ?
[16:05] <brunch875> whoops forgot the slash
[16:05] <jonny5000> hello, i have 14.04 installed on a lenovo yoga 13. touchscreen has worked flawlessly for a year and now all of a sudden, for no apparent reason its not working at all.  can anyone help?
[16:06] <nacc> damien__: /me assumed you had to create a password when you created the wallet, but honestly don't know
[16:06] <akis> hi again. this command : sudo find  -mtime -1 what searches exactly? i mean how old files?
[16:07] <damien__> Wallet is asking a password, I enter mine, it says "bad password"
[16:07] <nacc> damien__: http://askubuntu.com/questions/9905/how-to-prevent-empathy-from-asking-keyring-password-on-every-start
[16:07] <nacc> damien__: in the answer there, there's a suggestion for changing a wallet's password, i think
[16:07] <Cursed_God> damien__: try to use pass that you use for login
[16:07] <damien__> nacc, it's not a problem at startup, problem is that I can't create an Empathy Google account without to give the unknown password
[16:07] <damien__> Cursed_God, that's the first and only password I tried
[16:08] <nacc> damien__: i think it's still applicable, could you read what i suggested and try?
[16:08] <damien__> Maybe the problem is related with autologin ?
[16:08] <galgamach> hello... I did something with unity tweak tool which I can' remember and now my side bar and everything actually is gone. All I see i the desktop background picture. Any way to fix this?
[16:08] <damien__> ok nacc I look
[16:08] <nacc> damien__: do you use autologin?
[16:08] <damien__> nacc, yes
[16:08] <nacc> damien__: that's explicitly mentioned on that page
[16:09] <nacc> damien__: and gives the appropriate workarounds
[16:10] <damien__> nacc, does the security issue with empty wallet password is only for people having a physical access to my computer ?
[16:12] <damien__> Actually I can't empty the password cause it asks for a previous password I never gave. Will try to remove autologin, reboot and see...
[16:13] <nacc> damien__: i thnk there's a response and answer for how to change the password if you don't know the current password
[16:13] <nacc> damien__: but yeah, testing w/o autologin would be a good first check
[16:14] <damien__> reboot...
[16:14] <Canopus> Anyone could help me with my keyboard and and mouse issues?
[16:16] <galgamach> anyone?
[16:16] <Canopus> it's annoying to see the login screen and have to reinstall the whole system just because I can't type my user and password
[16:16] <jonny5000> am i being ignored?
[16:16] <nacc> !patience | jonny5000
[16:17] <nacc> jonny5000: 'all of a sudden' issues are rarely that, ime. Did you recently do any updates or reboots?
[16:17] <jonny5000> nacc, no i did not.
[16:17] <jonny5000> i made no changes at all
[16:17] <jonny5000> nacc, thank you for your attention
[16:17] <nacc> jonny5000: so you've not installed any of the security updates etc for 14.04?
[16:18] <jonny5000> nacc, when i look at the devices in xinput, the touchscreen doesnt show up.  i am not sure if it used to though
[16:18] <de-facto> Canopus maybe take a look in /var/log/Xorg.0.log ? errors are filtered by "cat /var/log/Xorg.0.log | grep EE"
[16:18] <jonny5000> nacc, the last update i did was probably weeks ago
[16:18] <jonny5000> this issue just arose today when i powered up
[16:19] <nacc> jonny5000: `apt-get update; apt-get upgrade`, does it indicate anything is available to udpate?
[16:19] <nacc> jonny5000: you just said you hadn't rebooted anytime recently
[16:19] <jonny5000> nacc, issue first surfaced after waking from suspend
[16:19] <realtime> I just got a fresh host with 16.04 LTS. I want to turn on ufw. 'ufw enable' says it might block em off ssh. if I first do a 'ufw allow ssh' and then 'ufw enable', will it work and I'll keep connected, or the rules will be reset or something, losing my access on 22 and blocking me out of the server?
[16:20] <jonny5000> nacc, i have rebooted since, thinking maybe that would help
[16:20] <jonny5000> nacc, updater is now updating a raft of things but it is hooribly slow (i am on an airplane)
[16:20] <nacc> jonny5000: i would see if that fixes things
[16:21] <nacc> jonny5000: generally, it's not a good idea to go weeks at a time without updating
[16:21] <nacc> jonny5000: you stop getting support when you do that, since you're out of date :)
[16:21] <nacc> jonny5000: are you using any of the hwe stacks?
[16:21] <Canopus> de-facto, thanks. I get 3 errors but none of them seems to be related with my usb devices
[16:21] <jonny5000> nacc, thank you.  i will be more diligent what is a hwe stack
[16:21] <Canopus> * seem
[16:21] <nacc> !hwe | jonny5000
[16:22] <nacc> jonny5000: `uname -a` and `lsb_release -a` will tell us (pastebin the output)
[16:24] <Guest53141> OK, so for the story, I had to create a new wallet. The existing one (installed by default) was still asking an unknown password even after deleting ~/.local/share/keyrings/login.keyring. It seems there is a little ergonomics problem, or it's not enough explained by GUI. Maybe I should report this somewhere ?
[16:24] <OerHeks> don't update the airplane..
[16:24] <dadidado> when I tried the <alt> menu a long time ago, the menus presented expended to system ones when the keyword was not found in the current window
[16:24] <de-facto> Canopus do your input devices show up in that file (like being registered correctly and all)?
[16:24] <dadidado> is there any way to have that back ?
[16:24] <dadidado> I searched for hud options and appmenu options, but didn't find anything
[16:25] <dadidado> and does someone know the exact name of the <alt> menu ? appmenu/globalmenu/hud ?
[16:26] <arunkumar413> Hi All, I'm tyring to install eclipse che on ubuntu 14.04 server by following this guide: https://eclipse-che.readme.io/docs/configuration-che-on-ec2. In the last command what should be the IP address? Is it the IP of the machine where the eclipse che is running or the ip address form where the che is accessed?
[16:27] <jonny5000> nacc, tthanks. http://pastebin.com/z6FwpLKv
[16:28] <screen22> hello?
[16:28] <screen22> plz help
[16:29] <screen22> I did something with my mouse maybe...
[16:29] <lyze> !ask | screen22
[16:29] <screen22> and now the screen is moving with the mouse movement
[16:29] <lyze> which distro?
[16:30] <lyze> ubuntu, xubuntu, kubuntu ... and which desktop environment: unity, xfce, ...
[16:30] <lyze> screen22,  ↑
[16:30] <screen22> xubuntu
[16:30] <screen22> the default DW
[16:30] <screen22> DE*
[16:30] <lyze> press alt mwheel up or down
[16:30] <jonny5000> nacc, did you see my paste?
[16:30] <nacc> jonny5000: on the phone, one sec
[16:31] <screen22> lyze, thats not working?
[16:31] <lyze> screen22, any other mod. key (ctrl, shift or so)? Xfce has a default zoom feature
[16:32] <screen22> the mouse wheel is a bit weird, sometimes when I'm on my browser when trying to scroll up or down, instead, I end up zooming in or out on the page
[16:32] <screen22> and then having to do CTRL+ - or + depending on what I did
[16:32] <lyze> Ok then use ctrl + mwheel c;
[16:32] <screen22> oh shoot, sorry... when you said alt + wheel I tried shift+wheel
[16:32] <screen22> but yeah alt+wheel worked
[16:32] <screen22> thanks
[16:33] <lyze> Ah nice
[16:33] <screen22> do you have any suggestions as to why that zooming out/in thing is happening on web pages? is it that the mouse is old or???
[16:33] <screen22> and when I try to replicate what happened it doesn't work
[16:34] <screen22> lyze, ^
[16:34] <lyze> No, not really, sorry … perhaps the ctrl key gets sometimes pressed acidentally? or is stick?
[16:34] <screen22> hmmm
[16:34] <screen22> yeah that could be or has to be it
[16:35] <screen22> because this laptop's ctrl key isn't that great I have to let go of it and press it again.... can't keep holding it and pressing other keys for a long time
[16:36] <jmadero> hi all - how can I run fsck if my system won't boot up?
[16:36] <jmadero> I believe I'm hitting this bug https://bugs.launchpad.net/linuxmint/+bug/1339249
[16:36] <jmadero> but can't figure out how to run fsck if I can't actually get to a terminal
[16:38] <jon_> nacc, i think i got bumped from xchat.  this is the guy with the touchscreen issue
[16:39] <realtime> I just got a fresh host with 16.04 LTS. I want to turn on ufw. 'ufw enable' says it might block me off ssh. if I first do a 'ufw allow ssh' and then 'ufw enable', will it work and I'll keep connected, or the rules will be reset or something, losing my access on 22 and blocking me out of the server?
[16:40] <OerHeks> !fsck | jmadero but maybe mint has other features, ask their channel?
[16:40] <jesus_> ola
[16:40] <jmadero> OerHeks: I'm actually not running mint but it is indeed that bug, just verified that
[16:40] <jesus_> alguien  por aqui
[16:40] <lotuspsychje> !es | jesus_
[16:41] <OerHeks> jmadero, oh, i read "encrypted block devices" ,... not sure filecheck handles that..
[16:41] <lotuspsychje> realtime: perhaps the #netfilter guys can help?
[16:42] <jmadero> OerHeks: looks like it's a combination of two problems - one is that system time was set way in the future, the other is soemthing about mounting the ntfs drive
[16:42]  * jmadero thinks that a Windows update did something funny
[16:44] <realtime> lotuspsychje, thanks, I'll try there as well
[16:44] <lotuspsychje> !ufw | realtime
[16:45] <jmadero> is there a way to edit fstab if I can't boot into my system? Since root is disabled, I can't access it by grub's recovery mode
[16:47] <RandomUser2345> how do i get lubuntu to change keyboard layout?
[16:47] <RandomUser2345> can't seem to figure it out
[16:47] <RandomUser2345> i want to be able to type polish characters
[16:48] <jmadero> RandomUser2345: did you install the language?
[16:48] <RandomUser2345> jmadero: I installed it now
[16:49] <jmadero> RandomUser2345: http://askubuntu.com/questions/512987/how-to-change-input-language
[16:49] <RandomUser2345> jmadero: It's lubuntu, not ubuntu
[16:50] <jmadero> sorry then I have no idea
[16:50] <jmadero> try their chat
[16:51] <streetwitch> I can't get the internal microphone to work on my HP stream 11.  The sound card us realtech
[16:51] <de-facto> RandomUser2345 https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Lubuntu/Documentation/LanguageSupport
[16:52] <de-facto> streetwitch try alsamixer from terminal
[16:53] <streetwitch> Right now I'm reinstalling Ubuntu studio.  It is almost done
[16:54] <de-facto> no idea about that, uses another sound daemon?
[16:54] <jmadero> looks like a W10 update borks Grub/fstab.....go figure
[16:54] <streetwitch> Sound daemon?
[16:55] <de-facto> like pulseaudio with alsa backend or such? i heard studio uses jack or something else?
[16:56] <streetwitch> Ooh I thought this was ubuntustudio
[16:57] <arunkumar413> I'm supposed to run four commands listed here: http://pastebin.com/TvcXeu1T The first command opens a vi editor. How should I run the remaining commands
[16:57] <cryptomonk> how can you make a reverse ssh tunnel exposed to the outside world?
[16:59] <nacc> jon_: ok, one sec
[16:59] <nacc> k1l_: based upon http://pastebin.com/z6FwpLKv, jon_ is also on the vivid lts stack?
[17:00] <nacc> jon_: if so, i'd recommend moving to the wily hwe stack and see if it just fixes things
[17:01] <de-facto> arunkumar413 vi is a command line file editor you can also use nano for gedit for that, then put those export lines in that, save it and source it
[17:02] <arunkumar413> de-facto: I should run these on the server. There is not gui editor
[17:02] <de-facto> then use either vi or nano
[17:03] <de-facto> arunkumar413 nano might be easier to start with, use arrow keys to go to end of file, type the export lines, hit Ctrl + O to writen hit Ctrl + X to save
[17:08] <Canopus> oh, seems that de-facto left the channel... here was my Xorg.0.log: http://pastebin.com/Rg5P2zqt he was asking for
[17:12] <Canopus> my keyboard and mouse are detected by they don't work in my graphical login
[17:14] <Canopus> any suggestion?
[17:15] <jmadero> Canopus: how about giving more info about your setup
[17:15] <jmadero> laptop/desktop/model/etc..
[17:16] <Canopus> it's a raspberry pi 2. it had ubuntu 15.10. when I upgraded to ubuntu 16.04, happened this
[17:16] <jmadero> Canopus: running Ubuntu? or some spinoff?
[17:16] <Canopus> RPi 2 Model B+
[17:16] <Canopus> to be more  precise
[17:17] <jmadero> model of keyboard and mouse - also are you running Ubuntu itself or something like raspbian?
[17:17] <Canopus> I installed it last year from the official site of Raspberry Pi, an image of Ubuntu MATE designed for the RPi
[17:17] <jmadero> Canopus: probably get better assistance in the RPi chat
[17:18] <Canopus> both the mouse and the keyboard are Kolke
[17:19] <Canopus> I'll ask there..
[17:22] <Canopus> it's a pitty because I had several daemons running..
[17:22] <Canopus> and they're still running correctly
[17:22] <jonny5000> nacc, i am back
[17:22] <jonny5000> nacc, are you there
[17:22] <Canopus> now I can use it only through ssh
[17:22] <nacc> jonny5000: yeah
[17:23] <jmadero> Canopus: yes, the RPi is a unique beast
[17:23] <jmadero> I tend to say don't upgrade it unless you have a strong compelling reason to
[17:23] <Canopus> yeah, I shouldn't have upgraded..
[17:23] <jmadero> Canopus: and always have a backup image available.....
[17:24] <jmadero> I try to image mine once a month
[17:24] <Canopus> although everything seems fine
[17:24] <Canopus> it's just that I can't use the keyboard and the mouse
[17:24] <jmadero> Canopus: yeah since it's not true Ubuntu (it's some spinoff build just for RPi) it's hard to get help here
[17:24] <jmadero> I've never thought of running Ubuntu on my Pi - I run a much more slim build
[17:25] <Canopus> jmadero, I used one of these images: https://ubuntu-mate.org/blog/ubuntu-mate-for-raspberry-pi-3/
[17:25] <jmadero> Canopus: yeah I'm saying you should have your own backup image
[17:25] <jmadero> especially prior to an upgrade
[17:25] <Canopus> how can I create a backup image?
[17:25] <jmadero> dd command
[17:26] <Canopus> Yep
[17:27] <Canopus> I have ssh, ftp, web, znc servers... everything continue working after the upgrade.
[17:27] <Canopus> my only problem is with the mouse and the keyboard
[17:27] <jmadero> yes we all understand that
[17:29] <jonny5000> nacc, keep getting cut off... back now
[17:30] <nacc> jonny5000: so i thik you've got the vivid hwe lts kernel installed. Would be good to try with the wily stack (see that wiki page)
[17:32] <jonny5000> nacc, thx.  but what can explain the touchscreen disappearing from xinput.
[17:32] <nacc> jonny5000: alternatively, run `apt-get update; apt-get upgrade` and make sure you are current.
[17:32] <jonny5000> nacc, just unrecognized or accounted for in the xinput list.  and now that i look closely, the other numbers are off by one, so touchscreen was there before, then all of a sudden not
[17:33] <nacc> jonny5000: i don't know off the top of my head, but you said you suspend and resumed, i think the yogas have some issues in that space (particularly with the input devices). And if you rebooted, mabye you're in a different kernel now?
[17:34] <TJ-> jonny5000: sounds and smells like an ACPI issue if suspend is the trigger
[17:35] <jonny5000> nacc, its funny, you know.  i have experienced the touchpad not coming on after reboot, but the funny thing is that the workaround i identified is to suspend and then resume when that happens, then presto, toujchpad is there!  so it actually does better in that regard waking up than booting up
[17:36] <jonny5000> nacc, meaning, I reliably get all the inputs working when waking from sleep as opposed to boot up.  even if the boot up didnt get them all right.
[17:36] <jonny5000> TJ-, i dont think suspend was the trigger necessarily
[17:37] <nacc> jonny5000: but getting different results from suspsend and cold boot implies probably ACPI or other low-level issues
[17:37] <jonny5000> nacc, TJ- ahh.  now i understand that i dont understand!
[17:37] <jonny5000> what does someone do when there is a low level ACPI issue?
[17:38] <nacc> jonny5000: does your device get detected by the kernel anymore (`dmesg | grep -i elan`, iirc
[17:38] <neyderdroid> hello there
[17:38] <nacc> jonny5000: check for BIOS updates, sometimes if it's actively being worked on upstream (e.g., skylake support), newer versions may have better support (which is another reason to try the latest hwe stack, potentially)
[17:40] <TJ-> jonny5000: The *most* common cause is a firmware bug done deliberately by the manufacturer. They write the ACPI DSDT code to only enable all features when the host OS is Windows. We have a workaround that sometimes works which is to have the Linux kernel tell the DSDT it is actually Windows.
[17:41] <neyderdroid> ping jose
[17:41] <TJ-> jonny5000: for example, on the PC I'm using now, an Asus T300CHI, if that isn't done the ACPI DSDT does *not* enable power for the touchscreen interface
[17:41] <jonny5000> nacc, TJ- how can i do either of those... trick the bios or use a different hwe
[17:41] <TJ-> jonny5000: you want to give it a go now?
[17:42] <jonny5000> TJ-, sure
[17:42] <nacc> jonny5000: the link i pasted before shows how to use the hwe stacks, you can also try the bios trick
[17:42] <TJ-> jonny5000: "pastebinit <( sudo strings /sys/firmware/acpi/tables/DSDT | grep -i windows )"
[17:42] <nacc> jonny5000: my thinking right now is that your system just "happened" to work before ...
[17:42] <jonny5000> TJ-, if it doesnt involve extensive downloads... i am on an airplane with limited bandwidth and power
[17:43] <TJ-> jonny5000: no downloads, simply editing the kernel command line that GRUB uses
[17:43] <egsome> I'm thinking in creating a simple application which hooks into Apport to trach program crashes and retrieve possible solutions from AskUbuntu and other websites. What do You think about that ?
[17:43] <nacc> TJ-: that's basically extracting the valid windows OSI fields?
[17:43] <egsome> *track
[17:43] <TJ-> jonny5000: only need the pastebin to see which Windows strings the DSDT recognises
[17:43] <TJ-> nacc: yup
[17:44] <nacc> egsome: i think it's a great idea if it can be done :)
[17:44] <nacc> egsome: within reason for "other websites"
[17:44] <nacc> egsome: although then you get into the questions of "where is data about my computer going?"
[17:44] <egsome> nacc, I can do it, but would like to know how people think about it before proceeding.
[17:44] <nacc> egsome: this isn't really the right place for that -- maybe #ubuntu-devel ?
[17:44] <egsome> nacc, It will be opensource application, anybody can see the code or build it.
[17:44] <TJ-> egsome: that's what launchpad does though, it collates identical apport crash reports into the same bug
[17:45] <nacc> egsome: that, generally, isn't the issue
[17:45] <nacc> egsome: but you'll see once you work on it :)
[17:45] <jonny5000> TJ-, http://pastebin.com/7xeSC5G3
[17:45] <egsome> TJ-, My idea is about getting possible solutions from AskUbuntu and other websites, instead of just reporting the bug.
[17:46] <egsome> nacc, Maybe :), And thanks for #ubuntu-devel, just posted the same there.
[17:46] <TJ-> egsome: so, have your application use the Launchpad API to hunt down the reports and bugs, and then correlate them to AskUbuntu and other places? I'd love to see that kind of functionality
[17:47] <rahul_kummi> the man pages in my system have gone weird some time now
[17:47] <TJ-> jonny5000: so it looks as if the latest would be "Windows 2012" - generally the DSDT code enables the most functionalty for the latest version it supports
[17:47] <nacc> rahul_kummi: be more specific?
[17:47] <rahul_kummi> like thwy just mention the description to the options but not the options
[17:48] <egsome> TJ-, That wouldn't be extending for Apport then, it would be a parallel website ?
[17:48] <TJ-> jonny5000: "sudo sed -i 's/^|(GRUB_CMDLINE_LINUX=".*\)"/\1 acpi_osi=! acpi_osi=\\"Windows 2012\\" "/' /etc/default/grub "
[17:48] <nacc> rahul_kummi: can you pastebin an example?
[17:48] <rahul_kummi> yeah i am posting a screenshot
[17:48] <TJ-> egsome: or a local tool that queries a remotely located database (doesn't have to have a 'web' site although that's a nice addition)
[17:49] <TJ-> jonny5000: hold on! typo!
[17:49] <jonny5000> too late!
[17:49] <TJ-> jonny5000: "sudo sed -i 's/^\(GRUB_CMDLINE_LINUX=".*\)"/\1 acpi_osi=! acpi_osi=\\"Windows 2012\\" "/' /etc/default/grub "
[17:49] <rahul_kummi> nacc:http://imgur.com/1f97FU2
[17:50] <jonny5000> nacc, done
[17:50] <TJ-> jonny5000: oh, it probably failed. do "grep GRUB_CMDLINE_LINUX= /etc/default/grub" and it should still be empty
[17:50] <nbusrone> how do I disable screensaver for certain application running at background ? like chrome browser watching youtube ?
[17:51] <jonny5000> TJ-, It returned this: GRUB_CMDLINE_LINUX=" acpi_osi=! acpi_osi=\"Windows 2012\" "
[17:51] <nbusrone> how do I limit my network bandwidth ?
[17:51] <glass> should be under system settings and then maybe privacy and or display
[17:51] <OerHeks> rahul_kummi, , it is your theme, highlighted words are not printed
[17:51] <glass> and what are you wanting to limit the total download or total upload?
[17:51] <jonny5000> TJ-, now what
[17:52] <TJ-> jonny5000: oh, you must have typed the command correctly despite my typo!! Anyhow, that is correct so now do "sudo update-grub" to write the setting to GRUB's config file
[17:52] <nacc> OerHeks: thanks
[17:52] <rahul_kummi> oh okay,than you OerHeks
[17:52] <OerHeks> rahul_kummi, file a bug against it, not sure what terminal/theme that is
[17:52] <jonny5000> TJ-, done
[17:52] <jonny5000> next?
[17:53] <rahul_kummi> sure
[17:53] <TJ-> jonny5000: next time the PC reboots it'll add that to the kernel command-line. After booting if you do "cat /proc/cmdline" you'll see it. If you check 'dmesg' output you should also see a line similar to "ACPI: Added _OSI(Windows 2012)"
[17:53] <rahul_kummi> OerHeks,
[17:53] <TJ-> jonny5000: then you test and find out if the hardware behaves any better with that set
[17:53] <egsome> TJ-, Then what is the difference between this idea and the one I told at the beginning ? I mean if it is just a local tool that queries a website, it is the same !
[17:54] <jonny5000> TJ-, rebooting now
[17:55] <TJ-> egsome: querying a remote database doesn't require a web-site, so its fast to test and develop for. A local tool that integrates with apport and the launchpad API to find bugs *and* related articles with possible workarounds/fixes would be a first step to proving it, *then* build a web-site around it (developing a useful web-site will likely take longer than getting the backend tooling working well)
[17:57] <jonny5000> TJ-, no change
[17:57] <TJ-> egsome: the thing is with good bug-support tooling the articles it links to need to be high quality and relevant, which imples some curating too. Without that, too many poor or irrelevant results and people would stop using it.
[17:57] <TJ-> jonny5000: have you confirmed the ACPI OSI_ value is set ?
[17:58] <jonny5000> TJ-, any hope that this just resolves when i do the updates that i have been neglecting for the last 2-3x i was reminded?
[17:58] <Caleb--> hi. ever since i upgraded to 16.04, i've been having lots of sudden system reboots. sometimes it reboots, i login, and it reboots immediately.  i have no idea how to debug as i don't see anything in the system logs
[17:58] <TJ-> jonny5000: "dmges | grep _OSI"
[17:58] <TJ-> jonny5000: possibly, as was said earlier, moving to the latest HWE kernel may help, which is Wily or Xenial now I think
[17:59] <TJ-> jonny5000: "dmesg | grep _OSI"  (grrr, typos!)
[17:59] <nacc> TJ-: wily (xenial's will be available with 16.04.1 i thnk)
[17:59] <TJ-> Caleb--: waht kind of reboots? immediately to the firmware POST messages, or freeze requiring manual reboot?
[17:59] <jonny5000> TJ-, yes it said added windows 2012
[18:00] <TJ-> jonny5000: OK, so that hasn't cured it then.
[18:00] <jonny5000> TJ-,  will updpating to the newest hwe kernal occur in the course of this regular managed update or do i need to do something special?
[18:00] <nacc> jonny5000: need to follow that wiki page to enable it
[18:01] <Caleb--> crap, it rebooted again
[18:01] <jonny5000> TJ-, ok thank you.
[18:01] <jonny5000> signing off now
[18:02] <TJ-> !info inux-generic-lts-xenial trusty
[18:02] <TJ-> !info linux-generic-lts-xenial trusty
[18:03] <nacc> TJ-: hrm, intersting, the wiki page says aug 2016, i think
[18:04] <rahul_kummi> guys can someome suggest any good resources for bash scripting for newbies like me
[18:04] <TJ-> nacc: maybe its in the archives but not being actively promoted yet
[18:04] <nacc> TJ-: yeah, possibly true
[18:04] <TJ-> rahul_kummi: the Advanced BASH pages are great
[18:04] <TJ-> rahul_kummi: http://tldp.org/LDP/abs/html/
[18:05] <glass> rahul_Kummi: just go to #bash
[18:05] <MIJ> TJ-: hi tj
[18:06] <glass> FAQ: http://mywiki.wooledge.org/BashFAQ | Guide: http://mywiki.wooledge.org/BashGuide | Ref: http://gnu.org/s/bash/manual | http://wiki.bash-hackers.org/ | http://mywiki.wooledge.org/Quotes | Check your script: http://www.shellcheck.net/ | Mailing list: https://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/help-bash | Devel: http://xrl.us/bmodjy
[18:06] <rahul_kummi> thanks TJ and glass
[18:06] <MIJ> TJ-: /ejlp
[18:06] <MIJ> oops
[18:08] <MIJ> TJ-:  i wanted to know if its better to use CFQ scheduler on my Ubuntu desktop system?
[18:10] <TJ-> MIJ: didn't we have this conversation a few days ago, and I recommended the -lowlatency kernels?
[18:11] <MIJ> TJ-:  yes i am using low latency kernel, but wanted to know the diff between low latency and generic plus which scheduler is used in both and i also wanted to try CFQ sched on generic
[18:13] <OerHeks> https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UbuntuStudio/RealTimeKernel
[18:13] <johntittor2000> does anybody know how to create app folders on the gnome overview?
[18:13] <johntittor2000> I tried with gnome-software, but it just doesn't work... no idea why
[18:13] <TJ-> MIJ: lowlatency implements preemptive multitasking whereas generic is essentially cooperative multitasking (that's a very gross simplification but should help understand the differences)
[18:15] <angel1604lts> hello TJ-
[18:15] <TJ-> seems to be my night!
[18:16] <Joaquin-V> is there a way to get thunar to mount my MTP devices
[18:16] <Jakey3> whats the way to encrypt a single file on ubuntu
[18:16] <Jakey3> with a secure encryption
[18:16] <xangua> Joaquin-V: what ubuntu release?
[18:16] <Jakey3> through terminal
[18:17] <nacc> Jakey3: gpg?
[18:17] <TJ-> angel1604lts: is the Bluetooth device still showing and usable?
[18:17] <ich_dien> Hello ll
[18:18] <OerHeks> Jakey3, right mouse: compress > see options with password and encrypth method
[18:18] <ich_dien> I attempted to install claws-mail but can't seem to open/find it
[18:19] <ich_dien> I DL'd tar, installed dependencies, ran ./config with no error, then successfully makefiled
[18:19] <TJ-> ich_dien: generally "dpkg -L <package-name>" will show where all the files are
[18:19] <ich_dien> but I can't run it, says its not installed
[18:19] <TJ-> ich_dien: aaah, not an Ubuntu package.
[18:19] <OerHeks> !info claws-mail
[18:20] <ich_dien> TJ-, what does that mean??
[18:20] <ich_dien> TJ-, is in repo
[18:20] <Jakey3> nacc, OerHeks thanks
[18:20] <TJ-> ich_dien: if you're building from source then you're the only one that knows how you configured its build system. Did you use "sudo make install" ? did it perhaps install under /usr/local/ ?
[18:20] <nacc> ich_dien: why can't you use the one from ubuntu?
[18:20] <EriC^^> Jakey3: gpg -c /path/to/file will encrypt it with a symmetric cypher so you can decrypt it later
[18:21] <Joaquin-V> xangua: xenial minimal
[18:21] <OerHeks> latest is 3.13, so we are up2date
[18:21] <ich_dien> nacc, you mean why didn't i use software center?
[18:21] <Jakey3> EriC^^, thanks
[18:21] <OerHeks> http://www.claws-mail.org/releases.php
[18:21] <nacc> ich_dien: yeah
[18:21] <ich_dien> nacc, because I wanted the latest version
[18:21] <EriC^^> Jakey3: no problem
[18:21] <nacc> ich_dien: presuming you had a good reason, what TJ- said :)
[18:22] <OerHeks> your reason is oke, only your download should match our package :-D
[18:22] <ich_dien> I'm new to this so used info from https://www.maketecheasier.com/install-software-from-a-tarball-in-linux/
[18:22] <Jakey3> nacc, EriC^^, OerHeks; I saw this to http://askubuntu.com/questions/160253/encrypting-decrypting-a-single-file-in-ubuntu-12-04-lts/160334
[18:22] <ich_dien> TJ-, I don't know I just followed instructions
[18:22] <ich_dien> TJ-, Do you have to run m
[18:23] <ich_dien> TJ-, Do you have to run "make install" after running make??
[18:23] <nacc> uh, yes
[18:23] <TJ-> ich_dien: if you don't know these things I'd suggest building your own software is not something you should be doing, there's a reason Ubuntu devs package and build over 50,000 packages
[18:23] <EriC^^> Jakey3: i think gpg -c is better cause openssl might not be installed on all systems, plus gpg -c uses aes-128
[18:24] <OerHeks> !build
[18:24] <Jakey3> EriC^^, is there a way to make it aes 256 with gpg
[18:24] <camroncade> morning, I'm currently booting into google-chrome (in kiosk mode) instead of the default (gnome-session) using a custom xsession, and I'm wondering if any of you have ideas of how I could trigger it to boot into a different session...
[18:24] <EriC^^> yeah probably
[18:24] <EriC^^> Jakey3: des3 is 56-bit
[18:25] <ich_dien> TJ-, Well thats contradictory to much of the advice found online that explicitly say to DL tar's when appropriate
[18:25] <Jakey3> thanks for the info
[18:25] <ich_dien> in this case I just wanted the latest version
[18:25] <GnomeKris> Anyone know why The Witcher 2, when played through steam, only loads the tutorial. It closes out if I try to go to story mode and skip the tutorial. It closes if I try to play through the tut and then go to story.
[18:25] <TJ-> ich_dien: but *why* ? is the version in the repo missing some must-have feature?
[18:26] <GnomeKris> Oh, i'm on Ubuntu Gnome 14.04 btw
[18:26] <xangua> Which you were told it's already in ubuntu repository  ich_dien
[18:26] <OerHeks> "advice found online that explicitly say to DL tar's when appropriate" is not our policy
[18:26] <Soul_Sample> GnomeKris: ouch, I've just installed it the other day but haven't tried it yet. I hope it's not a common issue :/
[18:26] <ich_dien> TJ-, much of what is in repo seems out of date. To a noob this is confusing
[18:27] <OerHeks> ich_dien, not true for clawsmail :-)
[18:27] <xangua> Joaquin-V: you mean xubuntu minimal? Don't know what might be missing... Mtp working fine in a regular xubuntu install here
[18:27] <nacc> !latest | ich_dien
[18:27] <ich_dien> OerHeks, yes it is
[18:27] <Joaquin-V> xangua: no, I mean minimal ubuntu
[18:27] <GnomeKris> Soul_Sample, apparently, the game has a few different issues with running on 14.04, but nothing I've found in googling has been related to my issue
[18:27] <Joaquin-V> as in the minimal 40MB ISO that only installs the core system
[18:27] <ich_dien> ubottu, Then why didn't someone just say so
[18:28] <nacc> ich_dien: "someone" did, by only giving you the option to install one version in `apt`
[18:28] <nacc> ich_dien: if you go and do something (*anything) as root -- you are choosing to alter your system, sometimes within the confines of support, sometimes explicity going outside those confines
[18:28] <OerHeks> ich_dien, no, see this http://www.claws-mail.org/releases.php = 3.13
[18:28] <OerHeks> !info claws-mail
[18:28] <nacc> arguably some case even as your current user
[18:28] <OerHeks> hopla
[18:29] <nacc> ich_dien: are you on trusty? (14.04)
[18:29] <Soul_Sample> GnomeKris: how can I reproduce it? just skip the tutorial?
[18:29] <nacc> ich_dien: 16.04 has the latest version (3.13.2); 14.04 does not but it's also an older release
[18:29] <camroncade> does anyone here have experience with xsession and has a moment to chat about a unique challenge?
[18:30] <GnomeKris> It does it weather I skip the tut, or play through. Same thing happens either way. Plus, it doesn't save anything, so I can't load a save file.
[18:30] <ich_dien> nacc, the version in my repo is 3.9.3
[18:30] <Soul_Sample> GnomeKris: I'll go and try now
[18:30] <nacc> ich_dien: are you on 14.04 (lsb_release -a)
[18:30] <ich_dien> nacc, the new version is 3.13.x
[18:31] <OerHeks> ich_dien, if wou want the latest, why not the latest LTS?
[18:31] <nacc> ich_dien: if yes, that is the version supported on your system ...
[18:31] <RandomUser1234> My usb is only set to READ ONLY, and I tried formatting it and repartitioning it. And even umounting and then dosfsck. Neither worked.
[18:31] <ich_dien> nacc, look I'm just telling you what I see in software center
[18:31] <Soul_Sample> GnomeKris: oops, I deleted the game :S
[18:32] <Soul_Sample> GnomeKris: I was sure it was installed
[18:32] <nacc> ich_dien: and i'm telling you why?
[18:32] <ich_dien> nacc, I am on the latest LTS
[18:32] <nacc> ich_dien: you installed an OS from 2014 (regardless of when you installed it), why would you think it had the latest versions of software on it? beyond the lts enablement stacks, that's not really something that happens. You need to change versions of the OS to get newer versions of the software, generally
[18:32] <ich_dien> 14.04
[18:32] <nacc> ich_dien: that's not the latest LTS
[18:32] <TJ-> ich_dien: latest LTS is 16.04
[18:33] <ich_dien> nacc, then I have other problems because it says my system is up to date
[18:33] <TJ-> ich_dien: that's why we're confused why you were building the same version as is in the archive
[18:33] <ich_dien> TJ-, makes way more sense
[18:33] <nacc> !ltsupgrade | ich_dien
[18:34] <ich_dien> TJ-, How do I get rid of the stuff I just extracted and made?
[18:34] <nacc> ich_dien: you are "up to date" with 14.04 itself
[18:34] <ich_dien> nacc, yes. Checked before I did anything today
[18:35] <nacc> ich_dien: right, but that doesn't mean you are on the latest LTS?
[18:35] <ich_dien> nacc, Yes I think we are all aware of this now
[18:35] <TJ-> ich_dien: delete the files I would think
[18:35] <ich_dien> TJ-, How? clean-ly"
[18:35] <FourLaps> Hey guys I'm  having some issues, is this the right place to ask for help?
[18:36] <nacc> ich_dien: did you `make install` ever?
[18:36] <genii> Usually with make uninstall or make dist-clean
[18:37] <ich_dien> nacc, I tar -zxvk, then ./config then I make and it said successful in terminal
[18:37] <TJ-> ich_dien: generally, when using the source, its done in its own sub-directory, so deleting that will get rid of it. If you previously used the sources's 'install' mechanism then you'd need to 'uinstall' the same way first
[18:37] <nacc> ich_dien: if all you did was `make`, then just delete the source
[18:37] <squinty> FourLaps,  if the problems are ubuntu related then yes
[18:37] <nacc> ich_dien: or keep it, it's just source and has no real impact to your system
[18:37] <FourLaps> Is anyone else having issues with Control+Alt+f1-6 on 16.04? it seems my terminals arent there anymore
[18:37] <ich_dien> nacc, meaning the the stuff in ~/Downloads??
[18:38] <fermulator> anyone know what the channel is for landscape (canonical) related items is?
[18:38] <ich_dien> nacc, Or do I make install now??
[18:39] <nacc> !alis | fermulator
[18:39] <ich_dien> nacc, If I do do I have to make again?
[18:39] <nacc> ich_dien: do you want to install from source or not?
[18:39] <ich_dien> nacc, I just want the latest version installed, anyway that is best!
[18:40] <RandomUser1234> My usb is only set to READ ONLY, and I tried formatting it and repartitioning it. And even umounting and then dosfsck. Neither worked.
[18:40] <OerHeks> #ubuntu-solutions iirc fermulator
[18:40] <ich_dien> nacc, It's not my goal to break anything, I just want to use claws
[18:40] <TJ-> RandomUser1234: have you tried writing zeros to the entire device?
[18:40] <nacc> ich_dien: did you answer before (sorry if i missed it) why you want the latest version?
[18:41] <RandomUser1234> TJ-: I'll try that instead of quick
[18:41] <ich_dien> nacc, yes but I am only on 14.04 so can't get latest from repo
[18:41] <nacc> ich_dien: that's not a reason?
[18:41] <RandomUser1234> TJ-: That's going to take too long though
[18:41] <nacc> ich_dien: why do you want the latest?
[18:41] <ich_dien> nacc, did most of legwork on tar stuff, so do I just "make install"?
[18:41] <TJ-> ich_dien: unfortunately although the project advertises it has a PPA, it doesn't look like anyone updated it since 2014
[18:42] <ich_dien> nacc, for security, stability, etc.
[18:42] <nacc> ich_dien: that's what a distribution provides ...
[18:42] <TJ-> RandomUser1234: you want it fixed ? writing zeros tells the device firmware it can remap bad blocks
[18:42] <nacc> ich_dien: going *outside* the distribution is more likely to break things, in that you have no way of getting automatic security updates to your version anymore
[18:43] <fermulator> OerHeks thanks, it directed me to #ubuntu-server for general inquiries. Got it.
[18:43] <ich_dien> nacc, but you just said no one is updating that old ppa anyway
[18:43] <ducasse> ich_dien: installing from source puts the responsibility on *you* to keep it patched/upgraded.
[18:43] <nacc> ich_dien: i didn't mention any ppa
[18:44] <nacc> ich_dien: and a ppa is not the archives
[18:44] <ich_dien> nacc, sorry that was TJ
[18:44] <ich_dien> nacc, what do you mean archives?
[18:44] <nacc> ich_dien: if you are on 14.04 and don't have a feature-driven reason to upgrade a piece of software, i'd recommend to just use the version in 14.04
[18:45] <nacc> ich_dien: e.g., archive.ubuntu.com, the official Ubuntu archives. I believe TJ- mentioned the PPA in that perhaps a claws developer or nice person was providing side-builds of the latest versions in a PPA (!ppa for details), but that would not be from Ubuntu and not supported officially (except by, perhaps, the PPA owner)
[18:45] <JFlash> hi, I have installed mariaDB on 15.04 and I'm trying to run it
[18:45] <nacc> JFlash: 15.04 is eol
[18:45] <nacc> JFlash: highly recommend you upgrade
[18:45] <JFlash> I get this error:  unknown service mysqld
[18:46] <metroins> Is there an easy way to switch the unity scrollbars to regular scrollbars?
[18:46] <ich_dien> nacc, but from 3.9.x to 3.13.x is a HUGE jump!!
[18:46] <JFlash> someone in mariadb asked me to paste an error log and this is what I found:
[18:46] <TJ-> nacc: ich_dien correct, on the claws-mail download page they prominently list their PPA as 'latest' and don't mention that its in the Ubuntu archive itself
[18:46] <JFlash> http://pastie.org/10844159
[18:46] <egsome> JFlash, Which command did You execute ?
[18:47] <ich_dien> nacc, so you are saying ANYTHING outside of software center is no good/unsafe??
[18:47] <xangua> metroins: that depends what you mean by unity scrollbars, since 16.04 unity uses gnome scrollbars again
[18:47] <nacc> ich_dien: "HUGE" for various definitions, sure. What's your point there?
[18:47] <JFlash> egsome, I tried a couple
[18:48] <JFlash> start service and just start
[18:48] <JFlash> sorry the error is unknown job
[18:48] <ich_dien> TJ-, If you download from SC does the program have an update feature or something like it?
[18:48] <nacc> ich_dien: I'm saying anything outside of the software center (really the ubuntu archives is what we mean) is not supported by Ubuntu. So you have to support yourself if you go down that path
[18:48] <JFlash> not unkwnown service
[18:48] <TJ-> ich_dien: you're a pain! I've got to git clone it now and try it out since it looks really good and I really don't want to miss out on the last 3 months commits!
[18:48] <nacc> heh
[18:48] <FourLaps> Hey so I'm having issues with my virtual terminals (The control + alt + F1 ones) does anyone know where I can start to troubleshoot this issue
[18:49] <metroins> xangua: I am on 14.04
[18:49] <TJ-> FourLaps: what issues?
[18:49] <Jakey3> what happens if you use gpg to encrypt a message
[18:50] <FourLaps> I cant access them with the keyboard shortcut TJ-
[18:50] <Jakey3> but your key expires before you open it?
[18:50] <TJ-> Jakey3: you forget the passphrase and kick yourself?
[18:50] <Jakey3> i would kick myself
[18:50] <ich_dien> nacc, Okay that sounds less discouraging
[18:50] <Soul_Sample> can anyone check out this video and let me know if it happens to them as well?
[18:50] <Soul_Sample> https://youtu.be/sijzTOnO2Dk
[18:50] <Jakey3> does the experiation of the key stop you from unecrypting the file
[18:51] <Jakey3> ?
[18:51] <ich_dien> TJ-, Okay fair enough
[18:51] <TJ-> FourLaps: from the GUI? that is strange. You're holding down Ctrl+Alt+F1 at the same time *and* you've checked your keyboard doesn't have some alternate operations enabled for the Fx keys?
[18:51] <xangua> metroins: installing dconf editor and disable them, or just uninstall the unity scrollbars packages should work
[18:52] <FourLaps> TJ- Yup. I made sure that the function keys acted as they should and that all of my keys work. I even tried another keyboard...
[18:52] <nacc> ich_dien: but the questions you were asking before, about whether you need to run `make install`, imply strongly that you should really not go down that route
[18:53] <TJ-> Jakey3: no, expired keys can still be used
[18:53] <nacc> ich_dien: because that's a fairly basic question wrt. building from source
[18:53] <JFlash> anyone can help?
[18:53] <FourLaps> Soul_Sample I dont use either Inkscape or unity so I'm afraid I'll be of no help
[18:53] <Jakey3> TJ-, what the pint of the expiration then
[18:53] <TJ-> FourLaps: that sounds rather like you've remapped the Ctrl or Alt keys to do something else
[18:53] <Soul_Sample> FourLaps: no problem, thanks for checking
[18:53] <Jakey3> *point
[18:53] <nacc> JFlash: you sort of ignored my response of 15.04 is eol
[18:53] <FourLaps> TJ- Control + W or Alt+Tab work as expected
[18:53] <nacc> !eol | JFlash
[18:54] <TJ-> Jakey3: so if the passphrase for unlocking the key is forgotten, the key will expire and can be replaced with another that has the same User ID, email address(es), etc.
[18:54] <ich_dien> nacc, What is that supposed to mean? How am I supposed to learn if I'm not trying things out??
[18:54] <JFlash> nacc, sorry if it seems I ignored. I know it's eol, thanks for the advice but I will not be able to upgrade right now
[18:55] <nacc> JFlash: right, but that means not supported any longer (and not here)
[18:55] <JFlash> nacc, it would take me some time as I'm a novice
[18:55] <nacc> JFlash: and means you are exposed to security vulnerabilities potentially
[18:55] <TJ-> FourLaps: in which case if you're testing with regular keyboards I can't think of anything else obvious. Are these regular Latin character QWERTY style?
[18:56] <FourLaps> TJ- Yeah, nothing strange
[18:56] <JFlash> nacc, I understand your concern, althou this is not a production machine. I will look for help some place else then. Sorry to disturb :(
[18:56] <FourLaps> TJ- Control + Alt + T works as expected too
[18:56] <TJ-> FourLaps: then its the function keys themselves
[18:57] <TJ-> FourLaps: I have an external USB logitech keyboard, and to have 'regular' key-codes from the Fx keys I have to press an "F-lock" button
[18:57] <FourLaps> TJ- F1 brings up the help menu like it should though
[18:57] <TJ-> FourLaps: I'm wondering if you've got something similar going on
[18:57] <FourLaps> TJ- Yeah I understand that and I know my keyboard isnt set up that way
[18:57] <nacc> ich_dien: that's a fair point. I would say you're learning quite a bit already about how Ubuntu works (and reasons to or not to update software outside of a distribution). Generally to install a software from source, you would d/l the source (or git clone or whatver). ./configure (or ./autogen.sh, depending), make, make install (the latter as root). BUt the whole point of building from source is knowing what
[18:57] <TJ-> FourLaps: in which case... are you sure you've got more than one tty enabled :D
[18:57] <nacc> you are building and how. So you'd probably pass flags to configure to use a prefix of /usr/local rather than /usr, and since you're doing `make install` as root, that assumes you know exactly what you are doing
[18:57] <FourLaps> TJ- Where can I go to do that?
[18:58] <nacc> ich_dien: the point of a distribution is someone else went through the trouble of doing all that for you :)
[18:59] <TJ-> FourLaps: you'd have to have reconfigured the system *very* particularly to disable the ttys so I very much doubt its that
[18:59] <nacc> ich_dien: my concern is let's say the claws source doesn't have an 'uninstall' target in the Makefile. And you go to install claws-mail from Ubuntu because the version upstream for whatever reason isn't what you want. It's possible that pacakge installation will fail, because of your local changes (I have no idea if this is the case for claws, but it might be generally possible)
[18:59] <FourLaps> TJ- Right? But I dont know where I would even to go to check if thats the issue
[19:00] <TJ-> FourLaps: believe me it won't be... even if I wanted to do that it'd take me 5 minutes to check I was doing it correctly :)
[19:00] <ich_dien> nacc, I think I understand what you mean.
[19:00] <FourLaps> TJ- But I honestly have no idea what else it would be
[19:00] <FourLaps> TJ- do you have a link to any documentation or something I could read?
[19:00] <TJ-> FourLaps: try using evtest to see if the keys are working
[19:01] <ich_dien> nacc, And yes ever since installing OS I have learned so much my head is spinning!
[19:01] <TJ-> FourLaps: "sudo apt install evtest; sudo evtest" select the keyboard device and press those problem key combos, see what it spits out. Ctrl+C to interrupt (exit).
[19:02] <ich_dien> Everyday is a new adventure:)
[19:02] <FourLaps> TJ- Evtest returns no devices available
[19:02] <TJ-> right round baby, right round, like a record baby, right round round round
[19:02] <TJ-> FourLaps: then the system is "broked"
[19:02] <FourLaps> TJ- Niiice. Sounds like my life
[19:02] <fermulator> FourLaps, perhaps the number of virtual consoles has been reduced somehow on your system? http://askubuntu.com/questions/27967/how-can-i-reduce-the-number-of-ttys/27975#27975
[19:03] <nacc> ich_dien: i think the most important rule is if you are doing anything as root (sudo or explicitly swtiched to the root user), you really want to be sure you know what you are doing, how to undo what you did, etc
[19:03] <TJ-> fermulator: I asked that but anyone doing it would recall they had!
[19:03] <AaronMT_> !hedgy
[19:04] <fermulator> TJ probably, but it's easily something to be forgotten if it were years ago, or maybe someone else with access to the system did it, or maybe some script did it...
[19:04] <TJ-> FourLaps: this is what you should expect to see with "sudo evtest" http://paste.ubuntu.com/16512695/
[19:04] <TJ-> fermulator: I'm inclined to think the system has been broken, if evtest isn't reporting any input devices
[19:04] <FourLaps> TJ- Fermulator I wish this was an old install, I've had this install for two weeks
[19:05]  * TJ- awards FourLaps the "I killed my system fastest" cup
[19:05] <fermulator> TJ-: definitely good to double check the evtest output to confirm keyboard mappings are correct (perhaps I mis-understood FourLaps though - I thought that CTRL+ALT+F1 works, but F2...F6 does not?)
[19:05] <FourLaps> TJ- The day I got my first computer when I was 13 I tried to install ubuntu and broke the bootloader that day
[19:05] <TJ-> FourLaps: at this stage I'd take an educated guess that reading the package manager's logs will reveal you've uninstalled some vital packages
[19:06] <TJ-> fermulator: none of the tty shortcuts works, but Ctrl+ and Alt+ other keys work fine, and F1 brings up help
[19:06] <FourLaps> TJ- I got evtest to work I forgot to run it as sudo. My keyboard is gucci
[19:06] <ich_dien> nacc, So just to be clear since nothing actually installed (no make install)
[19:07] <TJ-> FourLaps: aha! I did wonder but thought you'd be insulted if I asked :D
[19:07] <ich_dien> nacc, If I just get rid of the tar in ~/Downloads and the extracted files will be sufficient?
[19:07] <nacc> ich_dien: right, basically extracting a tarball and building it is just like creatinga  directory and putting stuff in it
[19:07] <FourLaps> TJ- Somestimes I make mistakes
[19:07] <FourLaps> albiet its rare ;)
[19:07] <nacc> ich_dien: there's nothing particularly special about source code in that regard
[19:07] <TJ-> FourLaps: we all do, and it can be embarrassing
[19:08] <nacc> ich_dien: so your management of that directory would be like any other directory in your homedir, do with it as you see fit :)
[19:08] <nacc> ich_dien: even after, were you to do so, a `make install`, you can delete the source, because it's put the stuff (installed!) in the right places in the system directories (or prefix as specified to configure)
[19:08] <TJ-> FourLaps: I once spent 3 hours trying to figure out how and when I'd uninstalled some key tools only to realise I was into a chroot of a different release, where I'd previously been debugging :s
[19:09] <FourLaps> TJ- Lmfao nice
[19:09] <FourLaps> TJ- the directory /etc/default/console-setup doesnt exist on my system
[19:09] <TJ-> FourLaps: so, does evtest report events for the Ctrl+Alt+Fx combos?
[19:09] <nacc> TJ-: i hate when that happens ...
[19:10] <TJ-> FourLaps: that'd be a file, not a dir
[19:10]  * squinty went through similar the other day with ssh session
[19:10]  * TJ- is so glad others suffer the same way... makes me feel a little better :)
[19:10] <TJ-> squinty: that's a scary one as well, doing something on a remote you think you're doing locally
[19:11] <TJ-> squinty: I have 6 monitors just for that, so I have 1 monitor = 1 remote system
[19:11] <FourLaps> TJ- I'm silly. It shows that tty1-6 are active. Also it responded when I hit the keys, am I looking for a specific output?
[19:11] <squinty> TJ-, did make my little old hear go pitty-pat when I realize the situation :-)
[19:11] <TJ-> FourLaps: well, first just confirming the keys aren't 'dead' when you use that particular combination
[19:12] <TJ-> squinty: I had a hot flush just reading your comment about it
[19:12] <squinty> lol!!
[19:13] <TJ-> FourLaps: if the 3-key combo is showing up then it points to something else having remapped them. Have you installed any packages recently that might want to take over key combos?
[19:13] <ioria> !info console-setup-mini
[19:13] <TJ-> FourLaps: like games maybe?
[19:13] <FourLaps> TJ- I just plugged in a third keyboard and the shortcut brought me to a black screen so everything is fucked
[19:14] <FourLaps> TJ- I went ahead and attempted to enter my username and password and on signing in I could hear the music I was playing
[19:15] <TJ-> FourLaps: I just tried to do the Ctrl+Alt+F1 in evtest... and it switched to the tty! That wsa funny
[19:15] <FourLaps> TJ- So The CLI is working but I see nothing
[19:15] <ioria> FourLaps, do you have console-setup package installed ?
[19:16] <TJ-> FourLaps: this is what it looked like: http://paste.ubuntu.com/16512902/
[19:16] <FourLaps> iotia Yeah just checked apt
[19:17] <xubuntu> ijhojkl
[19:17] <camroncade> does anyone know any reasons I would have problems trying to curl a URL in a bash script that is run from an x-session
[19:17] <FourLaps> TJ- I was able to get the shortcut to work but now the TTY doesnt display anything
[19:17] <xubuntu> I'm an asshole
[19:17] <TJ-> FourLaps: oh! didn't realise you'd solved it
[19:17] <FourLaps> TJ- Kind of?
[19:17] <TJ-> FourLaps: blank display is likely a GPU driver issue, to do with modesetting
[19:17] <FourLaps> TJ- It worked on the third keyboard
[19:18] <FourLaps> TJ- Oh yeah I have to boot with nomodeset otherwise its a black screen
[19:18] <TJ-> FourLaps: makes me wonder if one of the 1st 2 keyboards has got its toggle flags in a mess. I've often seen with multiple keyboards things like the Caps Lock and so on getting inverted in their meaning between the keyboards
[19:19] <FourLaps> TJ- I have no idea I just feel like everything is fucked and ubuntu hates me at this point
[19:20] <TJ-> FourLaps: yesterday I had several fun minutes trying to drop CAPS LOCK in the GUI because it got inverted... was fine at the ttys ... having to press Shift to get lower-case to log-in at the greeter, etc, as a right pain
[19:21] <FourLaps> TJ- Honest question where could I get a good computer with ubuntu pre-installed? System76?
[19:21] <TJ-> FourLaps: so i'd first wonder if you get this issue when only 1 keyboard is connected. Does it happen immediately after boot, or only after you've been working for some time in a user session
[19:21] <FourLaps> TJ- I honestly think that the built in keyboard is just dying on my computer
[19:21] <TJ-> FourLaps: also, try using the Guest session (or a new user account) and see if it occurs there. If not, it points to some user configuration issue
[19:22] <ioria> FourLaps, there is also sudo dpkg-reconfigure keyboard-configuration
[19:25] <Guest72834> hi guys - my install of ubuntu (from usb) failed during partitioning of one of my disks (an SSD disk).  From the live session, i tried to run "sudo fdisk /dev/sd
[19:25] <xangua> UbuntuPre-installed - Community Help Wiki (https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UbuntuPre-installed) FourLaps
[19:25] <FourLaps> ioria I am going to try that thank you
[19:26] <ioria> FourLaps, ok
[19:27] <Guest72834> hi guys - my install of ubuntu (from usb) failed during partitioning of one of my disks (an SSD disk).  From the live session, i tried to run "sudo fdisk /dev/sdb" but it returns " fdisk: cannot open /dev/sdb: Input/output error". What can I do?
[19:31] <GnomeKris> can gnome 3 run in ubuntu 14.04?
[19:32] <arooni> is there a way to run a script after my laptop comes back from resume ?
[19:32] <arooni> and if so; how
[19:32] <nacc> arooni: http://askubuntu.com/questions/92218/how-to-execute-a-command-after-resume-from-suspend
[19:33] <arooni> thank you nacc
[19:37] <Quatroking> any way to export/import a list of packages installed so i can install the same loadout on a different machine
[19:37] <ducasse> Quatroking: apt-clone
[19:37] <ioria> also aptoncd
[19:38] <Quatroking> thanks
[19:38] <xangua> ! Nounity | GnomeKris
[19:38] <xangua> GnomeKris: so just install gnome shell
[19:40] <arooni> how can i get a process id on the port that is using port 24800?
[19:40] <arooni> sorry process that is using port 24800
[19:40] <arooni> and specifically i want to kill only that process
[19:41] <arooni> so i really dont need to know the exact process id
[19:41] <ioria> try sudo lsof -i :24800
[19:45] <camroncade> any ideas how I can get ubuntu to connect to a known wifi network before login...I
[19:45] <arooni> nice thats what i needed;  and i can just run kill $(lsof -t -i:24800) and it seems to work
[19:45] <camroncade> I can't call a curl get request from an xsession script because it doesn't have an internet connection
[19:46] <k1l_> camroncade: once the wifi is connected and checked "available for all users" in settings it will connect when the lightdm starts.
[19:48] <arooni> if i want to start a daemon/program from /etc/pm/sleep.d/ must i do something like... sh /path/to/program &
[19:51] <themightyabby> is there a reason why remote desktop would not work if I turned on the remote desktop settings on the computer? - Do I need to restart the computer?
[19:52] <GnomeKris> Why does https://extensions.gnome.org say they can't detect a running copy of Gnome? I'm running gnome-shell 3.10.4
[19:53] <tgm4883> themightyabby: Windows? did you enable non network authentication?
[19:54] <themightyabby> where do I enable non network authentication?
[19:55] <genii> GnomeKris: 'If you are using GNOME 3.4 or newer and installation still doesn't work, check to make sure that the "GNOME Shell Integration" plugin is installed and enabled in your browser preferences. Some browsers have a feature, click-to-play, which make it so the plugin cannot start without user intervention. Make sure that either http://extensions.gnome.org is whitelisted for the click-to-play feature, or click-to-play is turned off entirely' https:
[19:55] <genii> //extensions.gnome.org/about/#no-detection
[19:55] <tgm4883> themightyabby: I forget the exact name, but it's a checkbox you need to uncheck when enabling RDP
[19:55] <tgm4883> I had to do that previously, but admittedly it's been awhile
[19:56] <gambl0re> i just installed mysql-workbench, how do i open it now?
[19:56] <themightyabby> hmm, doesn't seem to work but thanks anyway
[19:57] <tgm4883> themightyabby: firewall maybe?
[19:58] <ioria> themightyabby, if using vino check   ps -A | grep vino   to be sure is running
[19:58] <themightyabby> probably?
[19:58] <themightyabby> let me check the vino check
[19:59] <gambl0re> anyone here?
[19:59] <themightyabby> it's running
[19:59] <themightyabby> hi gambl0re
[19:59] <gambl0re> hi
[19:59] <themightyabby> what is vino? is that the desktop sharing?
[19:59] <gambl0re> i just installed mysql-workbench using apt-get. its finished insatlling but how do i run the program
[19:59] <ioria> themightyabby,  it's the default vnc .... sudo ufw status ?
[20:00] <themightyabby> allow, 22, 5900
[20:00] <themightyabby> what's the rdp port?
[20:00] <GnomeKris> genii. I'm all set now. Thanks for the point in the right direction
[20:00] <themightyabby> 5900 is vnc I know that much
[20:00] <themightyabby> (22 is ssh)
[20:00] <ioria> themightyabby,  so it's enabled... try to temporary disable it
[20:01] <themightyabby> okay
[20:01] <LJHSLDJHSDLJH> I'm trying to install Brackets IDE but it keeps breaking because of missing libgcrypt11, which I've installed manually then fixed apt-get like this:
[20:02] <MonkeyDust> themightyabby  type   less /etc/services
[20:02] <themightyabby> ioria: sadly it did not work (with the ufw disabled)
[20:02] <LJHSLDJHSDLJH> sudo apt-get install libgcrypt11-dev
[20:02] <LJHSLDJHSDLJH> sudo apt-get -f install
[20:02] <LJHSLDJHSDLJH> sudo dpkg -i --force-depends Brackets.1.6.Extract.64-bit.deb
[20:02] <ioria> themightyabby,  what client on windows ?
[20:02] <LJHSLDJHSDLJH> the result I still don't get Bracket running
[20:02] <themightyabby> ioria: Remote Desktop connection
[20:02] <ioria> please
[20:03] <themightyabby> oh that's the software that I'm using - windows RDP client (the one with windows 7)
[20:03] <ioria> themightyabby,  i think you need another client , like tightvnc
[20:03] <genii> GnomeKris: Glad it got sorted :)
[20:04] <tgm4883> Oh, you're going that direction
[20:05] <themightyabby> hmmmm - I think that is what the other people wanted to use (I'm troubleshooting it)
[20:06] <themightyabby> right on, thanks!
[20:06] <xubuntu42d> how do i install flash player? i cant find it in the software installer. tried getting it from adobe but it opens in that software installer and pops up with error cant get app_to_file (xubuntu 16.04 x64)
[20:07] <xangua> xubuntu42d: what browser
[20:07] <MonkeyDust> xubuntu42d  try flashpligin-installer
[20:07] <MonkeyDust> xubuntu42d  try flashplugin-installer
[20:07] <xubuntu42d> MonkeyDust:  i tried sudo apt-get install flashplugin-installer
[20:08] <xubuntu42d> it says its installed
[20:08] <xubuntu42d> firefox
[20:08] <xangua> xubuntu42d: restart the browser
[20:08] <xubuntu42d> firefox says i dont have flash
[20:08] <xubuntu42d> i have. i have also restarted the computer
[20:08] <xubuntu42d> also im going to need java
[20:09] <OerHeks> install restricted extras, java flash and such webplugins
[20:09] <xubuntu42d> restricted extras is installed
[20:10] <xubuntu42d> dont know what the package is that i need to install java
[20:10] <camroncade> did 16.04 change the way you specify which xsession to load? Mine doesn't seem to be loading my custom xsession
[20:10] <OerHeks> openjdk
[20:11] <camroncade> I'm editing the 50-ubuntu.conf file in /use/share/lightdm/lightdm.conf.d
[20:11] <xubuntu42d> try tab completing openjdk and theres tons of them
[20:11] <xubuntu42d> which do i need for web browsing
[20:12] <xangua> The plugin one
[20:13] <xubuntu42d> why is this so hard
[20:14] <xubuntu42d> which one is the "plugin" one?  (i knew how to do with in ubuntu software center but xubuntu 16.04 uses something else)
[20:14] <xangua> Things To Do After Installing Ubuntu 16.04 LTS (Xenial Xerus) ~ Web Upd8: Ubuntu / Linux blog (http://www.webupd8.org/2016/04/things-to-do-after-installing-ubuntu-1604-lts-xenial-xerus.html?m=1) xubuntu42d
[20:15] <xubuntu42d> im comming from 12.04.  16.04 is very different  and harder to use  >_<
[20:15] <hfsjou> hey. could someone check for me if this usb modem can be used for internet access on linux. it lacks the special applications to be "installed" on linux, but its driver and mac address all get recognized by linux mint. http://web.modacom.co.kr/en/product/product_view.php?seq_id=531
[20:16] <MonkeyDust> xubuntu42d  do you mean Unity is harder to use? you can easily install and switch to something else
[20:16] <Ben64> hfsjou: it says linux under supported os, so ... probably
[20:16] <xubuntu42d> im on xubuntu.   if you havent used it lately, its not the same as you remember
[20:17] <hfsjou> thank you so much. then the hard part is - how do i make it work? where do i even start?
[20:17] <xangua> xubuntu42d: xfce it's pretty much the same I used almost ten years ago
[20:17] <Ben64> hfsjou: plug it in
[20:18] <hfsjou> i did. it gets listed under 'network connections', but as an 'ethernet' thing, while it should be a wimax thing
[20:18] <Ben64> doesn't matter what the name is
[20:22] <TJ-> hfsjou: many USB broadband devices do that; they present a USB CDC Ethernet connection and have an embedded web-server and possibly dhcp server so you can configure them via a web interface
[20:24] <hfsjou> ok. [thank you for being a live human being.] - then, how do i configure it to work? - I kind of think that this post is about my issue, but my technical abilities are too limited to be able to follow the guidelines: http://askubuntu.com/questions/71814/how-to-re-compile-nm0-9-with-enabled-wimax - is this idea something i should pursue?
[20:24] <camroncade> what is the xsession manager in Ubuntu 16.04?
[20:24] <camroncade> is it not lightdm?
[20:24] <thomasfuston> Hello i have a problem my wlan chip on laptop is not working, its a fresh ubuntu 16.04 install, i got a BCM43124 broadcom any advice?
[20:27] <hfsjou> "via a web interface" - i do not follow. i get the ethernet connection 'window' - and then what?
[20:29] <enigmatic>  /part
[20:29] <Jakey3> if you encrypt a files and folders x number of years ago, you will frequently neeed to go back to them to rencrypt them with stronger encryption as time goes on
[20:29] <Jakey3> ?
[20:30] <Jakey3> and the decrytions are broken
[20:30] <arooni> any idea why this script in /etc/pm/sleep.d/ with full execute privs is not restarting my synergyclient as expected (it's my first shell script ;P) : https://gist.github.com/arooni/c7ba3556d3a7e123fd65d310a0041094
[20:30] <Ben64> Jakey3: no
[20:31] <Jakey3> Ben64, can you explain why not
[20:31] <Ben64> because good encryption doesn't get broken
[20:31] <mistawright> hi guys i am running ubuntu 14.04 on a server and need to downgrade php to 5.3 i was able to do this fine before but i am having issues with this current server. how can i go about this?
[20:32] <Jakey3> Ben64, the are encryptions that are known to be vulnerable now but at the time was secure
[20:32] <Jakey3> so if i had used them at the time to encrypt some files
[20:32] <Jakey3> now they would be vunerable
[20:32] <Ben64> like what
[20:32] <mistawright> http://pastebin.com/n3FRjScQ not sure if someone knows how to get around this issue
[20:34] <nacc> mistawright: why do you need to be on 5.3 on 14.04?
[20:34] <Jakey3> Ben64, DES
[20:34] <nacc> mistawright: wsa there ever a 5.3 version in 14.04? the GA version was 5.5
[20:34] <nacc> mistawright: so did you install 5.3 from a PPA?
[20:34] <mistawright> nacc, i need to install it for some old trax code
[20:35] <mistawright> nacc, i tried adding sources for it but had issues
[20:35] <Ben64> Jakey3: ok, and aes has been out for 20 years now
[20:35] <nacc> mistawright: let's start from scratch, so i undrestand
[20:35] <nacc> mistawright: you had trusty installed with php5 (which is 5.5...), right?
[20:35] <Ben64> yes 5.5
[20:35] <nacc> mistawright: and you are now trying to downgrade to some 5.3 version (it appears to be the version in precise?). How are you doing that?
[20:36] <Ben64> yeah no wonder it's breaking
[20:36] <Jakey3> Ben64, what I mean is hypothetically when aes 128 can be broken quickly all files encoded with this ecrytion will need to be updated for example
[20:36] <TJ-> mistawright: create a chroot containing the older release
[20:36] <Ben64> Jakey3: sure in your imaginary world
[20:36] <nacc> mistawright: if you really need 5.3, run precise in a container, chroot or vm
[20:37] <Jakey3> Ben64, you never know with quantum computers
[20:37] <nacc> lol
[20:37] <nacc> Jakey3: computing fundamentally changes if quantum computers become "regular", one would think
[20:37] <Jakey3> youll need quantum encryption
[20:37] <MonkeyDust> q-bits
[20:38] <nacc> arooni: does it work when invoked manually?
[20:38] <arooni> nacc yeah i copied that to a separate bash script and it runs fine
[20:38] <nacc> arooni: sh and bash arent' necessarily the same thing
[20:38] <arooni> i mean sh script
[20:39] <arooni> i used the same #
[20:39] <arooni> i wonder if ubuntu doesnt keep an internet connection immediately upon resume
[20:39] <arooni> so that would be a reason why it would fail
[20:39] <maszlo> I seem to have a weird issue with grub.  There are two ssd in my notebook, sda sdb.  win10 and ubuntu & grub are installed on sda.  sdb i have android installed.  The issue is that when i cold boot, and select the option for RemixOS (android) it says disk hd1,1 not found . but if i hit any key and exit am shown grub again and it boots
[20:39] <nacc> arooni: well, it's not possible to have internet "immediately" upon resume, you need the network device to be back,etc
[20:41] <Jakey3> im not clear how to easily encrypt files and folders on my computer with aes 256
[20:41] <nacc> arooni: i think if you depend on networking, you're supposed to put scripts in /etc/network/if-up.d ?
[20:41] <nacc> arooni: not positive
[20:41] <Jakey3> for symmetric and asymmetric
[20:41] <Jakey3> emphasis on easily
[20:41] <Jakey3> terminal is fine
[20:41] <arooni> it's really not a huge issue; i can run the command when i start work; i just like to automate stuff whenever possible
[20:42] <ayore> salut
[20:43] <MonkeyDust> !fr
[20:44] <mistawright> nacchow do i reinstall a config file of an application and overwrite the existing?
[20:44] <nacc> mistawright: possibly `dpkg-reconfigure <pkgname>` or `apt-get install --reinstall <pkgname>` depends on the context, though?
[20:47] <TJ-> Jakey3: read "man gpg2" and see "--cipher-algo". E.g. "gpg2 --cipher-algo AES256 -c file"
[20:48] <Jakey3> TJ-, thanks
[20:49] <TJ-> Jakey3: "gpg2 --version" will list the supported 'cypher' names
[20:50] <Jakey3> thanks
[20:50] <Jakey3> why isnt it easier to encrypt files on ubuntu with different methods?
[20:51] <tgm4883> Jakey3: what do you mean? Didn't TJ- just give you a command?
[20:51] <Jakey3> scratch my last comment
[20:55] <aparaatti> hi, I have added app categories to gnome and manually added desktop-files in them, but now the root level show still some icons that are also in categories/folders how to remove them from "root"?
[20:57] <Jakey3> whats the point of anti virus if malware can be put into the firmware?
[20:58] <k1l_> Jakey3: better ask that in the offtopic channel
[20:58] <Jakey3> ok
[21:12] <imdestroy> hello
[21:15] <bsamorim> hello
[21:15] <MonkeyDust> hello
[21:16] <rembo> hello everyone, how can i modify user group so file/folders created by apache can be accesible for ftp and apache user?
[21:20] <TJ-> rembo: use facls; see "man setfacl"
[21:22] <_damien_> I would like to report a bug (16.04). The windows shortcuts, like Super+W (expose windows) randomly changes to Super+Z. I use a AZERTY keyboard and I suppose sometimes the shortcut use QWERTY instead of AZERTY (maybe at X boot). Must I use ubuntu-bug ? And what components must I choose ?
[21:24] <squinty> !bugs
[21:27] <_damien_> I have read this page, and have tested ubuntu-bug, but dunno what component to choose. I tried Xorg but I end with an auto-generated report and a "send" button
[21:27] <genii> _damien_: Probably the package to file the bug against is keyboard-configuration . If it turns out to be the wrong package, the people reading that bug will re-file it
[21:28] <k1l_> _damien_: it will open in a browser afterwards where you can file more details
[21:28] <MonkeyDust> _damien_  also, the bug already may have be known on launchpad
[21:28] <_damien_> ha ok k1l_, I was afraid to send a pile of unusable data without to be able to add my own text
[21:29] <_damien_> MonkeyDust, I searched about shortcuts and didn't find it actually
[21:30] <_damien_> there is 1148 results :(
[21:30] <isene> After upgrade to 16.04, my authdeamond got kicked out of the building and I now need to run "/usr/sbin/authdaemond start" upon laptop restart. How do I make sure it runs automatically?
[21:30] <isene> Where do I put what?
[21:30] <isene> Or what do I debug?
[21:31] <_damien_> genii, I'll go with keyboard-configuration
[21:40] <_damien_> when you report bug with ubuntu-bug, do you need to add the points 1 to 5 (lsb_release -rd, etc...) ?
[21:41] <tgm4883> _damien_: the points?
[21:41] <_damien_> tgm4883, http://dpaste.com/3YXCHC5
[21:42] <tgm4883> _damien_: yea you need to add that
[21:42] <_damien_> 1 to 4 sorry
[21:42] <_damien_> ok
[21:43] <jessee-> hey does the default (evince) document viewer on xubuntu run code, just in case a pdf file has some code?
[21:49] <MonkeyDust> jessee-  you mean like javascript or css for html, layout etc?
[21:49] <jessee-> MonkeyDust, yep
[21:53] <MonkeyDust> jessee-  there's scribus https://wiki.scribus.net/canvas/Your_first_PDF_form_with_Scribus
[21:54] <jessee-> MonkeyDust, so Evince doesn't run any js or whatever? Thats all I wanted to know :)
[22:20] <lucas-arg> guys under ubuntu 16.04 cant apt update ive tryed with main repos and other ones too... dont know whats going on
[22:21] <k1l_> lucas-arg: run "sudo apt update" and put the output into paste.ubuntu.com and show the url here
[22:23] <lucas-arg> k1l_, weird now i did it
[22:26] <spiritualgamer> what do I do if I forget my zimagez password?
[22:26] <henry__> Hello. I need to reduce a PDF. Which application I can.
[22:26] <henry__> ?
[22:29] <zeryx> hey guys, if my apt-get update command is hanging (aka stopped while getting the package lists), how could I fix this?
[22:29] <zeryx> I've checked my lists file and everything seems to be ok
[22:29] <jessee-> how do I open .docx file abiword says "error importing" file and evince pdf viewer isn't displaying a pdf properly I'm not sure hwy
[22:29] <jessee-> why
[22:30] <bekks> Because abiword isnt capable of opening .docx files, and .docx files arent pdf files.
[22:31] <bekks> You may try libreoffice.
[22:32] <palindrome_> Hey, I am looking for something similar to speccy for windows to monitor my hardware such as temperatures etc. What is a good tool for this?
[22:34] <zeryx> palindrome_: not sure about a widget, but nvidia-smi works for nvidia gpus
[22:34] <_damien_> palindrome_, apt show lm-sensors
[22:34] <_damien_> palindrome_, "Lm-sensors is a hardware health monitoring package for Linux. It allows you
[22:34] <_damien_>  to access information from temperature, voltage, and fan speed sensors."
[22:34] <zeryx> https://gist.github.com/zeryx/6e63a1bdc7200048dafa694b00f95fcc
[22:34] <palindrome_> zeryx, I currently have and AMD would nvidia tools work for it?
[22:34] <zeryx> no
[22:35] <zeryx> there's AMD tools as well, it's just been a whlie since I've used linux with AMD
[22:35] <zeryx> anyone have an idea why apt-get isn't successfully updating? I thought I cleaned out my sources.list but it still keeps failing
[22:35] <jessee-> ok cool I understand about the .docx file bekks ... but what about this pdf it only shows the images on it and not the text, could that be how the pdf came? Can/Should i try another pdf viewer?
[22:36] <bekks> jessee-: I'd use Okular.
[22:36] <_damien_> palindrome_, https://www.linux.com/learn/discovering-and-monitoring-hardware-linux
[22:38] <jessee-> for the pdf? bekks
[22:38] <bekks> jessee-: Yes.
[22:38] <palindrome_> dada, hmm thanks for the information
[22:39] <jessee-> holy SHOOT
[22:39] <jessee-> is it supposed to install all these 106 packages just for okular
[22:40] <bekks> jessee-: Those are dependencies. Yes.
[22:41] <sleepy__> how can I stream photos from one computer to another? like, for example, drag and drop into chrome using cast, and display them in another chrome browser?
[22:41] <soee_> any idea how to fix this: ** (appstreamcli:10695): WARNING **: Exception: Unable to get write lock on /var/cache/app-info/xapian/default: already locked ?
[22:41] <sleepy__> use sudo
[22:41] <soee_> with what command ?
[22:41] <bekks> soee_: already locked means there is some process using it.
[22:42] <sleepy__> sudo whatever you were doing
[22:44] <precise> Hey guys, I booted up my computer and ran apt update/upgrade (like I always do). Today apt update is hanging, currently at "Fetched 94.5 kB in ***". I looked at /var/log/apt/history.log and /var/log/dpkg.log and neither of them have anything dated today. Any ideas?
[22:45] <bekks> precise: No updates installed, no log entries.
[22:45] <precise> So are there any logs in relation to the progress of apt update?
[22:46] <bekks> precise: The update process is working fine - there were no updates to be installed.
[22:46] <precise> Problem is the program is not exiting with any status...?
[22:46] <bekks> So wait until it exits.
[22:46] <precise> It just hangs without a prompt...
[22:46] <precise> bekks, issue being it has been 30 minutes now
[22:47] <k1l_> precise: wait more than 2 minutes.
[22:47] <precise> 30 > 2?
[22:47] <k1l_> hmm
[22:47] <k1l_> maybe change the mirrors
[22:50] <lucas-arg> sorry me again, after i tried to do sudo apt-get update it downloads all but command does not end, it says downloaded 33.7 mb and gets still there
[22:50] <lucas-arg> after 5 minutes
[22:50] <precise> Same problem here lucas-arg!
[22:50] <precise> What version you running?
[22:50] <lucas-arg> precise, whats going on?
[22:50] <lucas-arg> 16.04
[22:51] <precise> sudo apt update hangs at  "Fetched so 'n so at ***", doesn't exit
[22:51] <precise> I'm on 16.04
[22:52] <lucas-arg> i really dont know whats wrong
[22:52] <precise> lucas-arg: Have you tried 'sudo apt update'? instead of apt-get
[22:52] <lucas-arg> precise, both and they all do the same
[22:52] <lucas-arg> precise, even in synaptic
[22:53] <nkowdley> Hey guys, is anyone on 16.04 and had apt-get update hang?
[22:53] <precise> You make 3 nkowdley
[22:53] <lucas-arg> nkowdley, yes all apparently
[22:53] <nkowdley> the appstream cli refresh bug?
[22:54] <nkowdley> If there a fix available?
[22:54] <nkowdley> Is*
[22:55] <Guest1689>  is apt broken for anyone else tonight ?
[22:55] <Guest1689> on 2 machines (kubuntu 16.04) apt-get update is not completing - since this evevnig
[22:55] <precise> Yes, Guest1689, all of us
[22:55] <Guest1689> ah good
[22:55] <Guest1689> its not a local issue...
[22:56] <precise> I just ran, it on my 14.04 machine and it worked fine, this seems to be isolated to 16.04, What version Guest1689?
[22:56] <Guest1689> 16.04 - in the UK in case its a mirror issue
[22:56] <precise> Nope, US here
[22:56] <CodFection> guys my apk-update is stuck
[22:56] <CodFection> any idea?
[22:57] <lucas-arg> Guest1689, nope im from argentina and its happening to me too
[22:57] <lucas-arg> even changing mirrors
[22:57] <precise> CodFection, it is happening to everyone
[22:57] <CodFection> precise, ok thanks
[22:57] <CodFection> ubuntu lol
[22:57] <nkowdley> Alright cool, glad to see this not just a me issue :)
[22:58] <CodFection> any one in US having the same issue?
[22:58] <nkowdley> Yup
[22:58] <bst11> I want to download some youtube videos youtube-dl is way too slow with my connection anyone has a better alternative?
[22:58] <CodFection> ok cool. lets wait for a fix then
[22:58] <CodFection> bst11, visit alternative.to
[22:59] <bst11> okay
[22:59] <lucas-arg> i enabled proposed to see if anything changes
[22:59] <nkowdley> Can someone run htop/top while running apt and see if appstreamcli refresh is at 100%
[22:59] <velus> hello i have installed scribus on the computer but i cant seem to find it to start it? how would i start it
[23:00] <precise> It is nkowdley if %cPU == refresh
[23:00] <CodFection> velus, thats the ubuntu issue.. u need to restart or log out everytime to see the item u installed.
[23:00] <nkowdley> precise: cool thanks
[23:00] <marus-> is that a good idea to rename my NICs in 16.04 to old names?
[23:00] <lucas-arg> you can do sudo killall appstreamcli
[23:00] <lucas-arg> and sudo apt-get update
[23:00] <precise> lucas-arg: fix?
[23:00] <lucas-arg> then just ctrl+c
[23:01] <lucas-arg> or
[23:01] <lucas-arg> ctrl+x
[23:01] <lucas-arg> after that you can install or upgrade all packages
[23:01] <nkowdley> So just bypass appstreamcli?
[23:01] <lucas-arg> i see a new package in proposed appstreamcli
[23:01] <nkowdley> This? https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/appstream/+bug/1579712
[23:01] <lucas-arg> dont know if it will change anything
[23:01] <nkowdley> yup
[23:02] <nkowdley> just saw that
[23:02] <marus> is that a good idea to rename my NICs in 16.04 to old names?
[23:02] <lucas-arg> i dont know how they consider this a medium problem
[23:02] <nkowdley> How do you enable xenial-proposed?
[23:03] <lucas-arg> nkowdley, i installed synaptic, after that i can choose to enable it in one of the tabs
[23:03] <nkowdley> man package managers in 16.04 have been awful
[23:03] <brucewhealtonjr> Hello all, I was wondering if someone could tell me how to completely remove mysql and instead install mariadb on a new system running Ubuntu 16?
[23:03] <marus> is that a good idea to rename my NICs in 16.04 to old names?
[23:04] <genii> marus: Better to just leave the names as-is unless you have specific reason like scripts which refer to the old names like eth0 or such
[23:04] <nkowdley> I can't install anything through the gnome-software-center and now this
[23:04] <lucas-arg> i can confirm
[23:04] <lucas-arg> after updating system with proposed updates, apt and apt-get and synaptic works ok
[23:05] <nkowdley> 3 year old bug finally comes out of hiding
[23:05] <nkowdley> lol
[23:05] <brucewhealtonjr> I know there might be more than package and I think the use of purge is used
[23:05] <marus> genii: yes that's my purpose, scripts doesn't work...
[23:05] <Guest88148> quick question..i read online that its harmless but.. was still wondering what it is.. i keep seeing an error  saying  APCI PCC probe failed  on start up.. even if its harmless..i have to wonder what it meen's
[23:05] <marus> genii: and also i don't understand why this new kind of names
[23:06] <CodFection> Guest88148, u have ACPI problem
[23:06] <nkowdley> lucas-arg: where is the tab for enabling proposed?
[23:06] <genii> marus: Then what you can do is edit /etc/default/grub  and put in there: GRUB_CMDLINE_LINUX="biosdevname=-1 net.ifnames=0"  save the change, then: sudo update-grub
[23:07] <brucewhealtonjr> also, is there any problem having php 5.x and php 7.0 both installed on a system?
[23:07] <genii> marus: And it will revert to the previous generic names of eth0, eth1, wlan0, etc
[23:07] <precise> Hey guys I am refreshing the appstreamcli and this it the output: http://pastebin.com/Lhswp2cC
[23:07] <precise> It is hanging there
[23:08] <CodFection> nkowdley, is apt problem fixed yet?
[23:08] <genii> marus: The reason for the new naming is the same as UUID for hard drives. So the name of the ethernet devices is always unique
[23:08] <nkowdley> codfection: nope, but the bug has been fixed in xenial-proposed
[23:08] <precise> Can you guys see if you get the same results with your appstreamcli? (In relation to the apt hang issue)
[23:08] <nkowdley> supposedly
[23:09] <CodFection> nkowdley, automatically or you had to do some tweaking?
[23:09] <genii> I'm getting the appsteam issue on a Kubuntu 16.04 box here, but not on an Ubuntu Server 16.04 box
[23:09] <HappySomethingSo> Hi
[23:09] <genii> appstreamcli, rather
[23:10] <HappySomethingSo> I've got questions about the new ubuntu 16 and networks
[23:10] <nkowdley> CodFection: yeah, well downloading a newer version of appstreamcli should fix it
[23:10] <precise> This one? https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/appstream/0.9.4-1ubuntu1
[23:10] <nkowdley> but I am having trouble finding the name of xenial-proposed repo
[23:10] <CodFection> nkowdley, how to? :(
[23:11] <nkowdley> i think so
[23:11] <CodFection> nkowdley, isn't it supposedly fixed automatically. precise
[23:11] <HappySomethingSo> I used to edit /etc/network/interfaces in ubuntu 14 to set up a static ip and it worked. If I do that now, the system either ignores it or fails to raise network interfaces
[23:11] <HappySomethingSo> has something changed from 14 to 16 in regard to how a static ip is configured?
[23:12] <HappySomethingSo> thanks
[23:12] <CodFection> precise, any idea how to fix apt lag issue?
[23:13] <precise> I just downloaded this: https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/appstream/0.9.4-1ubuntu1
[23:13] <precise> Currently am reading through the readme and preparing to install
[23:13] <CodFection> where to save this? (I am running ubuntu 16.04)
[23:13] <genii> HappySomethingSo: What does: grep managed /etc/NetworkManager/NetworkManager.conf  say?
[23:14] <nkowdley> I just enabled proposed and am going to install this package, then switch back
[23:14] <precise> CodFection, Hold back on installing, I am still tinkering and I don't want to bork your system.
[23:14] <nkowdley> but either method should work
[23:14] <HappySomethingSo> genii: grep: /etc/NetworkManager/NetworkManager.conf: No such file or directory
[23:14] <precise> nkowdley, IYO, would that be easier than compiling?
[23:14] <nkowdley> yeah
[23:14] <nkowdley> precise: yeah, but you have to remember to switch back
[23:15] <genii> Hm
[23:15] <CodFection> precise, alright mate.
[23:15] <HappySomethingSo> genii: I had no idea how to fix the raise network interfaces problem, so I'm running off a clean image
[23:15] <precise> For future reference: enable proposed repository directions: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Testing/EnableProposed
[23:15] <CodFection> please guys let me know if anyone manage to fix this issue
[23:16] <OerHeks> apt lag issue, choose faster mirror?
[23:16] <HappySomethingSo> genii: My network/interfaces file reads like this http://pastebin.com/ULn6LZt8
[23:17] <precise> OerHeks, See this bug: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/appstream/+bug/1579712
[23:17] <HappySomethingSo> genii: the source interface part I don't recognize from ubuntu 14 and I think it may have something to do with that
[23:17] <brucewhealtonjr> Is there any package that helps with two monitors and laying out windows on the desktop like using the right half of one monitor and the left side top half of a monitor (1/4 size of the display)?
[23:17] <HappySomethingSo> genii: but if I edit the file in  /etc/network/interfaces.d/ it overwrites it on boot. If I delete it, it fails to raise network interfaces
[23:18] <precise> nkowdley, There are some 300MB of packages in proposed fyi
[23:18] <nkowdley> yeah, i was just trying to install appstream
[23:18] <nkowdley> not everything
[23:18] <precise> just with an apt install?
[23:18] <OerHeks> precise, wait for the xenial update, i wouldn go to proposed if i can avoid that
[23:18] <nkowdley> yup
[23:19] <precise> OekHeks, How can you patch an update bug with an update?
[23:19] <nkowdley> precise: not sure if its going to work, since I'm doing some hacky stuff here
[23:20] <genii> HappySomethingSo: So put whatever static entry you would normally have in the /etc/network/interfaces file into a file like /etc/network/interfaces.d/static.cfg
[23:21] <marus> genii: your solution doesn't help
[23:22] <genii> marus: It is the recommended solution which the Launchpad bug mentioned there refers to
[23:22] <bst11> hi I'm following the following description to install wordpress in lamp   https://www.howtoforge.com/tutorial/how-to-install-wordpress-on-ubuntu-16.04-lamp/
[23:22] <HappySomethingSo> genii: but there's already a file there, it's called 50-cloud-init.cfg
[23:22] <HappySomethingSo>  and has this in it: http://pastebin.com/XSthDVUh
[23:22] <bst11> Im facing an error at loading the default url
[23:23] <HappySomethingSo> genii: does this matter?
[23:23] <reisio> bst11: this is a great opportunity to choose something less insecure, and less generally awful
[23:23] <marus> genii:http://www.itzgeek.com/how-tos/mini-howtos/change-default-network-name-ens33-to-old-eth0-on-ubuntu-16-04.html
[23:24] <bst11> reisio: what do i do then?
[23:24] <reisio> bst11: there are many less awful CMSes you could use
[23:24] <reisio> and less awful bases than PHP
[23:24] <genii> marus: Sorry, wrong user
[23:24] <reisio> bst11: what's the error you're getting?
[23:25] <Pinkamena_D> tried to upgrade 14.04 to 16.04, installer said there were errors but It restarted anyway. Still starts up ok but I cant seem to run apt-get update: it stopt at downloading us.archive.com/ubuntu with "appstreamcli" process taking 100% cpu forever. Any suggestion to fix? it does not behave normally after a restart.
[23:25] <CodFection> precise, any solution yet?
[23:25] <bekks> Pinkamena_D: Updating from 14.04 to 16.04 isnt supported yet, it will be supported once 16.04.1 is released.
[23:25] <genii> HappySomethingSo: : It is the recommended solution which the Launchpad bug mentioned there refers to. So the file which is currently in there is how your changes in /etc/network/interfaces is being overwritten
[23:25] <marus> genii: GRUB_CMDLINE_LINUX="net.ifnames=0 biosdevname=0" not -1
[23:25] <bst11> reisio: when i load this http://192.168.1.100/wordpress i get unable to connect
[23:25] <precise> CodFection, rolling on nkowdley direction and installing appstream from proposed, any progress nkowdley?
[23:26] <genii> marus: biosdevname=-1, not biosdevname=0
[23:26] <Pinkamena_D> well, I just went to the software updater and it said that 16.04 was available, so I clicked the button. Not trying to do anything shifty...
[23:26] <genii> thats a minus sign, and then a 1
[23:26] <HappySomethingSo> genii: ok, I'll try it now
[23:27] <marus> genii: i've tryed it but doesn't help, on the link they make =0
[23:27] <reisio> bst11: what makes you think 192.168.1.100 is the IP?
[23:28] <genii> marus: Remember that you need to do after that: sudo update-grub  ...and that a reboot is needed before the change takes effect
[23:28] <precise> OerHeks, any reason that you know of that appstream is taking so long to install? nkowdley?
[23:28] <Pinkamena_D> bekks: is there any way to fix this problem at this time?
[23:29] <genii> marus: Also, it is -1 and not 0 for the biosdevname value.
[23:29] <bst11> my ip doesnt work as much either
[23:29] <bekks> Pinkamena_D: I dont think so, since you are runninh an unsupported configuration right now.
[23:29] <bekks> *running
[23:30] <reisio> bst11: is it supposed to be a server on the machine you're currently using?
[23:30] <HappySomethingSo> genii: it dodn't work, and now if I run ifconfig I get random letters instead of eth0
[23:30] <marus> genii:i've rebootet several times, only eth0 is changed, but not the wlan0
[23:30] <Pinkamena_D> bekks: There should be a more explicit warning on the upgrade, especially for a gui tool. How about a downgrade?
[23:30] <HappySomethingSo> genii: http://pastebin.com/bR2mdi4s
[23:31] <OerHeks> precise, appstream is optional. if you encounter issues, de-install untill the update arrives?
[23:31] <bst11> reisio: yeah i installed lamp tring to follow up with wordpress
[23:31] <Pinkamena_D> Do you know what appstreamcli actually does?
[23:31] <bekks> Pinkamena_D: Downgrades arent supported. And you selected to upgrade to a development release, did you?
[23:31] <reisio> bst11: you can just use 'localhost' (http://localhost/) then
[23:31] <reisio> bst11: you probably don't have apache or whatever web server you've installed actually running yet
[23:32] <Pinkamena_D> my actions were going to the software update tool (through dash) and checking for updates.
[23:32] <bst11> reisio localhost just being out the default apache page
[23:32] <Pinkamena_D> once it finished, it said that '16.04' was available, so I clicked the button to upgrade
[23:32] <Pinkamena_D> that is all
[23:32] <bst11> let me paste in some screenshots
[23:33] <reisio> bst11: that means Apache is running, then
[23:33] <reisio> bst11: try http://localhost/wordpress/ now, if you indeed have a 'wordpress' dir in there
[23:33] <Pinkamena_D> lsb_release shows just "ubuntu 16.04 LTS", is there another place to look for a subversion which may be 'development' ?
[23:33] <mistawright> hi guys i have to use ubuntu 14.04 and need to install php 5.3.10 and associated modules. what would be the best way to go about this as I have been trying for hours to get what i need installed
[23:33] <bst11> reisio: alright
[23:33] <bekks> Pinkamena_D: Subversion has nothing to do with it.
[23:33] <genii> HappySomethingSo: Yes, that is the new Constant Naming Scheme thing in place now, as I was just explaining earlier to marus
[23:34] <bst11> reisio: nothing just a clean white page
[23:34] <genii> HappySomethingSo: Network device names are now given a name which has part of their MAC in it so that the names remain the same
[23:34] <bst11> reisio: could it be that i did not install wordpress correctly?
[23:35] <OerHeks> !info php5 trusty
[23:35] <precise> OerHeks, wait, I thought appstream was part of the apt utility?
[23:35] <OerHeks> mistawright, why 5.3? nobody uses that anymore ..
[23:35] <reisio> bst11: it's more likely your PHP isn't installed/configured, or apache isn't configured to use it
[23:35] <reisio> bst11: try http://localhost/wordpress/index.php directly
[23:36] <genii> HappySomethingSo: If you do the steps I outlined to them just earlier, the naming will revert to the old eth0 kind
[23:36] <OerHeks> precise, i don't have it on 15.10
[23:36] <bst11> reisio: alright
[23:36] <HappySomethingSo> genii: I don't mind the new name, but the static ip didn't work
[23:36] <mistawright> OerHeks, I have an application that requires it and until devs cleanup this code my hand is forced
[23:37] <milena_> 123456
[23:37] <genii> HappySomethingSo: Please pastebin whatever is in the .cfg files in /etc/network/interfaces.d directory, please
[23:37] <HappySomethingSo> genii: I added static.cfg to /etc/network/interfaces.d/ and wrote what I normally write for static ips, but now it's blank
[23:37] <Pinkamena_D> bekks: ok, it looks like uninstalling the 'appstream' package with apt-get has fixed this issue. Do you know what this package does? I am not familiar with it.
[23:37] <precise> OerHeks, I uninstalled and all works now...
[23:37] <HappySomethingSo> genii: the system erased it on boot
[23:37] <OerHeks> it is part of an IDE, not sure which one
[23:37] <OerHeks> !ide
[23:37] <nkowdley> precise: you still here
[23:38] <HappySomethingSo> genii: apparently. It also reverts any changes made to the other file
[23:38] <precise> Yeah whats up?
[23:38] <genii> HappySomethingSo: What did you do with the other file that was already in there?
[23:38] <precise> nkowdley
[23:38] <nkowdley> precise: so real hacky solution
[23:38] <HappySomethingSo> genii: nothing, it's still there
[23:38] <precise> go on
[23:38] <nkowdley> precise: sudo mv /usr/bin/appstreamcli /usr/bin/appstreamcli.bak
[23:38] <bekks> !info check-all-the-things
[23:38] <nkowdley> lol
[23:38] <genii> HappySomethingSo: Please pastebin whatever is in it
[23:38] <nkowdley> precise: it works
[23:38] <bst11> reisio: was not found on server
[23:38] <bekks> Pinkamena_D: Thats where it is from ^.
[23:38] <genii> work, afk 5-7 minutes
[23:39] <nkowdley> precise: lol not a great fix though
[23:39] <precise> lol, I actually uninstalled appstream all together :P
[23:39] <nkowdley> lol
[23:39] <bst11> sending the image
[23:39] <nkowdley> that works too
[23:39] <nkowdley> Alright guys, gotta go bbl
[23:39] <reisio> bst11: then you probably don't have the 'wordpress' directory where you think it is
[23:39] <precise> see ya
[23:39] <bst11> I think the php was probably not well installed
[23:40] <bst11> reisio: will a reinstallation of php7 fix it?
[23:40] <reisio> bst11: it would still load index.php if it found it, it just wouldn't parse it as PHP
[23:40] <reisio> if it wasn't found, it isn't where you think it is
[23:40] <mistawright> any ideas on how to install php 5.3.10 on ubuntu?
[23:41] <bst11> reisio: alright how about i give it all a try again
[23:41] <reisio> mistawright: 1) suspend sanity (x2) 2) install it 3) done
[23:41] <bst11> reasons why i just love xampp
[23:41] <jnagro> anyone having issues with packagecloud.io hosted apt repos hanging their apt update?
[23:41] <reisio> bst11: xampp won't help you with not knowing where your files are
[23:41] <jnagro> in my case, Slack client installed one
[23:41] <jnagro> https://packagecloud.io/slacktechnologies/slack/debian just hangs forever
[23:42] <CodFection> is apt update still lagging?
[23:42] <mistawright> reisio, tried and failed using apt
[23:42] <bst11> reisio: it has a graphical way of just installing the whole thing without much trouble
[23:42] <HappySomethingSo> genii: sorry for the wait, pastebin is really slow now
[23:42] <mistawright> reisio, couldnt install php-dev without pulling in php 5.5.9
[23:42] <reisio> mistawright: it's very unlikely you need php5 or php5.3 particularly over php5.5
[23:43] <bst11> reisio: any alternative for all this?
[23:43] <reisio> bst11: AFAIK your only problem is that you don't know where your files are; you should figure out how to know where your files are, that is important
[23:43] <mistawright> reisio, unable to install dbx with php 5.5.9 and our application isnt fully compatible
[23:44] <bst11> reisio: alright thanks
[23:44] <reisio> mistawright: time to fix your application
[23:44] <reisio> mistawright: what're you going to do when php5 is even more discontinued, security compromised, and full of buggy holes than it is now?
[23:44] <bekks> mistawright: How are you trying to install dbx?
[23:44] <genii> marus: What is it calling the wifi interface now instead of wlan0 ?
[23:44] <CodFection> guys my apt-get update is still stuck and cant get it fixed. please help
[23:45] <mistawright> bekks, pecl/pear which fails due to phpize being missing
[23:45] <OerHeks> CodFection, choose faster mirror?
[23:45] <CodFection> OerHeks, how ?
[23:46] <bekks> mistawright: sudo apt-get install php5-dev
[23:46] <OerHeks> softwarecenter > sources
[23:46] <Bashing-om> !info appstreamcli
[23:46] <mistawright> bekks, i did which tries to pull in php 5.5.9 though
[23:46] <bekks> !info check-all-the-things | Bashing-om thats the package containing appstream
[23:46] <WoodyPC> Does anyone know anything about a program called mono-complete?
[23:46] <bekks> mistawright: Which is intended.
[23:47] <genii> Bashing-om: It's in the appstream package
[23:47] <bekks> mistawright: After installing php 5.5.9 properly, from the repos, you will be able to install dbx.
[23:47] <Bashing-om> bekks: genii Thanks .. a similar issue on the forum too .
[23:47] <WoodyPC> I have looked it up, but most of it is code or source code.
[23:48] <HappySomethingSo> genii: pastebin doesn't load at all
[23:48] <HappySomethingSo> genii: http://pasted.co/45a1f639
[23:49] <OerHeks> https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/xenial/amd64/mono-complete
[23:49] <CodFection> OerHeks, so change it to US server?
[23:49] <OerHeks> CodFection, the mirror selector has an option to look for the fastest mirror
[23:49] <OerHeks> us/main is fine
[23:50] <jessee-> any other pdf reader besides okular that is as good as adobe reader
[23:50] <genii> HappySomethingSo: So in this case, I would either: rename that file to something that doesn't end in .cfg and re-make the static.cfg file... or: just edit it to make the static change there instead of a different file
[23:50] <CodFection> chose US and still stuck
[23:50] <CodFection> OerHeks,
[23:50] <HappySomethingSo> genii: it reverts any changes made to the file
[23:50] <OerHeks> CodFection, then it is your network/isp
[23:50] <CodFection> OerHeks, but my internet is working fine..
[23:51] <CodFection> OerHeks, thats why I can chat now right..
[23:51] <genii> HappySomethingSo: Sounds like something on your hosting provider's end then, where they give you dhcp by default and you probably have to request a change from them to static
[23:52] <HappySomethingSo> genii: the server is mine
[23:52] <genii> HappySomethingSo: Weird. I haven't seen this before.
[23:52] <HappySomethingSo> genii: and I managed to change it to static on ubuntu 14
[23:52] <Quatroking> could I just have a moment and bring your attention to the fact that UEFI is a worthless piece of shit
[23:52] <Quatroking> thank you
[23:53] <CodFection> OerHeks, but my internet is working fine..  how to fix now??
[23:53] <genii> HappySomethingSo: I think you may get someone more knowledgeable on the subject in #ubuntu-server
[23:53] <Quatroking> spent an hour trying to boot off USB and get ubuntu to install properly only to finally have it work after installing off DVD
[23:53] <HappySomethingSo> genii: thanks, I'll try there
[23:53] <TJ-> HappySomethingSo: there's nothing in the ifupdown tooling that'll wipe out a local admin's installed files
[23:54] <genii> TJ-: Have you seen something like before?
[23:54] <genii> *like this
[23:54] <OerHeks> CodFection, no clue, you say internet is fine but apt lags
[23:54] <TJ-> genii: never, not caused by tooling. Caused by bad file systems / journalling, yes
[23:55] <TJ-> genii: sounds more like a non-persistent container to me
[23:56] <TJ-> genii: might be worth putting an inotifywatch on the directory, see when/if the file is accessed/written
[23:56] <CodFection> Hi TJ
[23:56] <CodFection> I trust u
[23:56] <CodFection> can u please help me solve one issue
[23:57] <CodFection> whenever I run apt-get update it stucks
[23:57] <TJ-> I was just off to bed!
[23:57] <CodFection> or even using software update
[23:57] <Bashing-om> Pinkamena_D: bekks :: The Cog on the forum has a work-a-round : http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=2325168 that worked for him .
[23:57] <TJ-> CodFection: how does it stick? times out trying to fetch files?
[23:57] <CodFection> no
[23:57] <CodFection> after fetched
[23:57] <CodFection> it stucks
[23:58] <OerHeks> CodFection, show us the output of update
[23:58] <HappySomethingSo> \join #ubuntu-server
[23:58] <genii> Hm
[23:59] <michagogo> Hi, can anyone help me with an LXC question? I'm trying to get started with a container and can't seem to figure out how to make this work. I created it with sudo lxc-create -t ubuntu. I'm able to lxc-start it, and lxc-attach to it, but I can't, for example, ssh into it. I assume there's some kind of networking setup I need to do, but I can't find anything
[23:59] <michagogo> that clearly explains how to make it work -- how to give the host network access to the container and/or how to give the container access to the Internet.