[00:13] <james__> Hello is anyone in tonight?
[07:53] <drox> Salve ragazzi io non uso ubuntu studio, ma solo ubuntu e penso che riuscite ad aiutarmi... io ho una motu 8pre la ho collegata al pc tramite firewire ma il sistema non la vede
[07:54] <drox> ci ero riuscito anni fa ma adesso non trovo più la guida, qualcuno sa aiutarmi?
[16:58] <streetwitch> I can't get the internal mic on my HP stream 11 to work.  I have a realtech sound card.
[17:05] <OvenWerks> streetwitch: need more info... in pulse (desktop)? Jack?
[17:06] <streetwitch> Just tell me what I should do to get the info
[17:06] <OvenWerks> What are you trying to do? Which application are you using?
[17:07] <streetwitch> Afaik all of them.  Is there a good one we can test now?
[17:08] <OvenWerks> Start by naming one application you are unable to find the mic with.
[17:08] <streetwitch> Audacity
[17:09] <OvenWerks> Ok I have started audacity... with the edit menu and preferences you shouold get a dialog
[17:09] <OvenWerks> The top of the left side shows "devices"
[17:10] <OvenWerks> on the right there is "host" and a drop down beside that.
[17:10] <streetwitch> Yes
[17:10] <OvenWerks> it has the choice of alsa oss and jack, which is it set to.
[17:10] <streetwitch> ALSA
[17:10] <OvenWerks> good.
[17:11] <OvenWerks> so you are using Pulseaudio then.
[17:11] <OvenWerks> you can cacel that, and pause audacity (||) and hit record so you have the input meter working.
[17:12] <streetwitch> K
[17:12] <OvenWerks> Then (assuming you are running ubuntustudio or xubuntu) on the top bar there is a little speaker and clicking on that has  settings.
[17:13] <OvenWerks> (well Sound settings actually)
[17:13] <streetwitch> Where is it exactly?
[17:13] <OvenWerks> That will start an application that says volume control.
[17:13] <OvenWerks> on my machine right next to the clock.
[17:14] <OvenWerks> you can run it from a terminal by typing pavucontrol too
[17:14] <streetwitch> Oh that!
[17:15] <streetwitch> So now what?
[17:15] <OvenWerks> select the recording tab.
[17:15] <OvenWerks> you should see audacity
[17:15] <streetwitch> Yes
[17:16] <OvenWerks> there should be a drop down on the right side of the screen with the input. click on that. do you see your mic?
[17:16] <streetwitch> ALSA plug-in [audacity]
[17:16] <OvenWerks> Right.
[17:17] <OvenWerks> on the same line there is a box with the input device
[17:17] <OvenWerks> If you click on that it should give a list of available inputs
[17:17] <streetwitch> Just: Built in audio analog stereo
[17:18] <streetwitch> No mic
[17:18] <OvenWerks> click the configuration tab
[17:18] <OvenWerks> What do you have?
[17:19] <streetwitch> A drop down box
[17:19] <OvenWerks> Is there anything in the drop box that looks like it includes the mic?
[17:19] <streetwitch> Yes, several.
[17:20] <OvenWerks> select one of those that has both input and output (I would choose a stereo one)
[17:21] <OvenWerks> Then go back to the recording tab and try again.
[17:21] <streetwitch> No mic
[17:23] <OvenWerks> Yuck.
[17:23] <streetwitch> It does change what is in the recording drop dowb
[17:23] <streetwitch> Down
[17:23] <OvenWerks> :)
[17:24] <OvenWerks> as you choose each one is there one with audio on it (meter show activity)
[17:24] <streetwitch> Where is the meter?
[17:24] <OvenWerks> in audacity
[17:25] <OvenWerks> top right horizontal there will be a L and R with a picture of a mic beside
[17:25] <streetwitch> It isn't moving
[17:26] <OvenWerks> I wonder if there is a switch in alsa to turn the mic on or switch between mic and aux in.
[17:28] <OvenWerks> Do you happen to have something plugged into the AUX plug?
[17:28] <streetwitch> No
[17:29] <streetwitch> This is a fresh install
[17:30] <streetwitch> The speakers work
[17:30] <streetwitch> Just no internal mic
[17:31] <streetwitch> Hey wait!!
[17:32] <streetwitch> The microphone started working!
[17:32] <streetwitch> But just when I pick the laptop up and move it arounf
[17:32] <streetwitch> Around
[17:33] <OvenWerks> :(
[17:33] <OvenWerks> That sounds wiring related.
[17:33] <streetwitch> No
[17:34] <streetwitch> It works fine in windowd
[17:34] <OvenWerks> Thats good then
[17:35] <streetwitch> It seems to go either all the way up
[17:35] <streetwitch> Or all the way down
[17:36] <streetwitch> Ideas?
[17:36] <OvenWerks> Maybe alsamixer can help.
[17:36] <OvenWerks> this is old: https://ubuntu.wordpress.com/2005/12/05/fixing-the-errant-microphone/
[17:39] <OvenWerks> This is a bit nicer: http://www.linuxplanet.com/linuxplanet/tutorials/7134/1
[17:39] <OvenWerks> pulse maybe only hooked up to mic boost and not level.
[17:40] <OvenWerks> (or mute)
[17:45] <OvenWerks> we are getting to where I just don't know what is next.
[17:46] <streetwitch> I tried the document
[17:47] <streetwitch> Not sure if I did it right
[17:48] <OvenWerks> to me it sounds like pulse does not properly set the mic up.
[17:48] <OvenWerks> Normally with internal audio pulse is quite good about figuring things out.
[17:49] <streetwitch> Can you try something else?
[17:50] <OvenWerks> :) in my case none of my devices show in pulse... I have specific needs.
[17:50] <streetwitch> How do I load pulse?
[17:51] <OvenWerks> it is already loaded.
[17:52] <streetwitch> I have turned everything to the max in alsa
[17:52] <streetwitch> But am not sure about anything else
[17:53] <OvenWerks> you might try asking the guys in #pulseaudio.
[17:54] <streetwitch> How do I know if I have muted something in alsa?
[17:54] <OvenWerks> if there is a bug in PA they would like to know or they may be able to help you otherwise as they are more familiar with internal HDA audio than I am
[17:54] <OvenWerks> you would see MM at the bottom
[17:55]  * OvenWerks has to go wife is calling.
[18:31] <antto> guys.. i have a cheap "HP" usb mouse, iirc it actually uses logitech chips inside.. what kind of black magic is needed to make it move linearly (that means disabling acceleration completely) and yet be able to adjust the speed (because it moves too slow then) ?
[18:32] <antto> or is it a problem with the actual mouse, like.. it's a very cheap one, is it maybe not sensitive enough?
[18:33] <antto> i used some hacks to make it move faster (xinput or xset or something similar) but with that i only managed to make it twice faster, but it basically moves by two pixels.. which means that's the smallest amount i can actually move the cursor
[18:33] <antto> there must be a way
[18:34] <antto> am i the only one who wants linear mouse response x_x
[19:03] <sakrecoer> antto: not sure i understand what "linear" means in this context...
[19:04] <antto> it means, if i move the mouse two centimeters to the left, it should move the cursor "X" pixels to the left, always, no matter if i moved it uber slow or very fast
[19:04] <sakrecoer> well, that is how it acts on my computer...
[19:05] <antto> i recently installed a bunch of ubuntu variants on a bunch of computers, and a debian.. they all had the mouse acceleration enabled by default
[19:06] <sakrecoer> yes, tried with a ruler and then with 2 objects blocking the mouse, and it moves the same distance regardless of the speed
[19:06] <antto> can you post a screenshot of your mouse settings?
[19:06] <sakrecoer> sure
[19:07] <antto> or just check if the acceleration is set to 2px
[19:07] <sakrecoer> http://www.pasteall.org/pic/103337 haven't touch it since install tho...
[19:08] <antto> yes, that's the default settings
[19:08] <antto> you have acceleration, my friend
[19:09] <sakrecoer> yes, but... oddly enough, it makes no difference how fast i move it..
[19:09] <sakrecoer> i put the mouse between 2 blocking object, and it goes same length fast as slow
[19:10] <sakrecoer> nah, maybe a slight little difference... hard to tell..
[19:10] <sakrecoer> with acceleration set to 0, there is defenitly no diff
[19:11] <antto> yes, set to 0 it becomes linear
[19:11] <antto> but then you have absolutely no way to change the speed
[19:12] <antto> and, my question is wether that's because my mouse is too cheap and doesn't have fine resolution, or what
[19:13] <antto> on windows XP i can adjust the speed, and acceleration is disabled, but it's not a fair comparison since i'm using a different mouse there (PS/2, and my ubuntu computer doesn't have a PS/2 port at all, so i can't test it)
[19:13] <sakrecoer> my mouse is also very cheap, so.. it could be. "sensitivity" doesn't seem to do anything to it... so be... weird non the less
[19:14] <antto> i could plug the USB mouse on the winXP and see how it is tho
[19:14] <sakrecoer> try it :)
[19:14] <antto> ehm, the "Sensitivity" slider on the mouse settings in ubuntu is related to the acceleration
[19:14] <sakrecoer> would be interesting to see what happens
[19:15] <antto> when acceleration is fully OFF (to make the mouse linear) then the sensitivity doesn't have any effect
[19:15] <antto> set your mouse acceleration to 2.0 again, but change the sensitivity to 1px
[19:16] <antto> then you will be able to feel the effect easier, and then turn the acceleration even higher for mega pain ;]
[19:17] <sakrecoer> hmm... acceleration 2.0 and sensitivty 1.0px seems to be the closest to what i imagine you are looking for...
[19:17] <antto> nope
[19:18] <antto> i plugged that mouse into the winXP machine now.. huh, both mice move the cursor
[19:19] <sakrecoer> actulay, acc 1.0 and sens 1px must be linear as i percieve it... but i don't think i'm really feeling what you are after...
[19:19] <sakrecoer> having it like that, it really makes no difference in length if i go slow or fast between the 2 objects blocking my mouse
[19:20] <antto> okay.. the USB mouse definately moves slower than my PS/2 mouse
[19:20] <antto> so it's a hardware issue
[19:20] <antto> x_x
[19:20] <antto> gotta find a more decent mouse then
[19:21] <sakrecoer> :) i guess i'm the wrong person to check with, sorry... i tend to get used to any mouse quite quickly. that why i always buy them second hand super cheap
[19:21] <sakrecoer> well.. "always".... last time was several years ago...
[19:22] <sakrecoer> for detailed work, i use pen tablet.
[19:23] <sakrecoer> anyways, happy you found what your issue was, sorry i couldn't help you better...
[19:23] <antto> i got two computers, and the mouse difference is severe, it annoys me
[19:23] <antto> and i don't have much desk space to move the mouse 20cm to reach the other end of the screen
[19:23] <antto> blah
[21:49] <kryptonradon> I'm installing 16.04 so I dropped in to show my gratitude
[21:58] <studio-user668> My 16.04 install seems to be hung on "Retrieving file 56 of 56".  Any known problems?
[21:59] <kryptonradon> so does mine
[21:59] <kryptonradon> at least we can comiserate
[22:00] <kryptonradon> I installed it in a vm without problem, maybe the server went down?
[22:00] <kryptonradon> the install window leaves a trail on the screen too
[22:00] <studio-user668> DOn't know what a vm is, but I'm installing from a DVD image.
[22:00] <kryptonradon> not that that's a problem
[22:01] <kryptonradon> virtual machine
[22:01] <kryptonradon> you installing in a virtual machine?
[22:02] <studio-user668> Actually running this chat from the installation screen, but no further progress on installation
[22:02] <kryptonradon> mine is stuck there too
[22:03] <studio-user668> I only did the install when my 14.04 version seemed to be broken and would not install
[22:03] <studio-user668> It all happen  a couple of days ago during a normal software update
[22:04] <kryptonradon> my 14.04 was having some problems
[22:04] <kryptonradon> and all the apps are getting ancient
[22:05] <kryptonradon> I upgrade every time a new lts version comes out, eaier than making the old one current
[22:05] <studio-user668> I'm thinking hardware failure? or cyber attack?  bug in the update/new version?  How to know?
[22:05] <kryptonradon> I don't know
[22:06] <kryptonradon> can't contact the server seems most likely to me
[22:06] <kryptonradon> I'll look at my router
[22:08] <studio-user668> There is a button in the screen says "Skip" but I don't know if that skips slideshow or file download.  Afraid to push it
[22:08] <kryptonradon> hmmm I seen to have forgotten the password and it's on the machine being installed
[22:09] <kryptonradon> you can always start over
[22:09] <kryptonradon> I was thinking about doing that too
[22:10] <kryptonradon> I clicked Skip
[22:10] <kryptonradon> it's still stuck
[22:11] <kryptonradon> reset and try again
[22:12] <studio-user668> Me too.  Can't wait forever with not progress shown.
[22:13] <kryptonradon> yeah
[22:14] <kryptonradon> I installed from this iso image before so that's not the problem
[22:14] <kryptonradon> and I diffed the dvd with the iso so it's ok
[22:15] <kryptonradon> it's booted to the X desktop
[22:16] <kryptonradon> oh it's the try without installing option
[22:17] <kryptonradon> I'm trying it without download updates during install
[22:55] <kryptonradon> my install has stuck twice on "Retrieving file 56 of 56"
[23:09] <studio-user415> how to use this:
[23:09] <studio-user415> ?
[23:11] <OvenWerks> ask a question and then wait from minutes to hours, for someone to answer if they can.