[00:02] <YankDownUnder> There does exist that possibility...but ya know, I like being impatient...as we all do...
[00:21] <fifty-sevenC> Well, if it takes to long kill it and try later
[00:23] <mate|65150> how to autorun a program
[00:24] <fifty-sevenC> Autorun as in?
[00:25] <mate|65150> new to this... autorun a program from python?
[00:25] <mate|65150> at boot
[00:25] <fifty-sevenC> What program?
[00:26] <mate|65150> just one that I write. I know I can do it on raspbian rpi2. havent tried any other gui or os on it and making sure that I can do that with this gui
[00:27] <fifty-sevenC> Ok so it is a desktop application
[00:27] <fifty-sevenC> ?
[00:28] <fifty-sevenC> System -> Preferences -> Personal -> Startup applications
[00:28] <mate|65150> well, yes it is a python script so on raspbian i have to configure it like /blah/blah/python myfile.py, then it will autorun at boot
[00:30] <fifty-sevenC> You can add a script to /etc/init.d/
[00:30] <mate|65150> Ok, thanks for your help!
[00:31] <fifty-sevenC> after you add the daemon script you need to update-rc.d
[01:00] <HetroErectus> Odroid-C2 > raspberry pi
[01:01] <HetroErectus> im getting that one.. 2gb ram, able to play 4k video
[01:01] <HetroErectus> $40
[01:01] <HetroErectus> lacks wifi and bluetooth but who cares.. all i have to do is plug in one of both bought on ebay for $1 each
[01:01] <HetroErectus> theres 4 usb ports on it
[01:02] <HetroErectus> not able to run win but will run ubuntu just fine, which is perfect ! <3
[01:02] <HetroErectus> its going to be my camper computer glued to the back of a TV
[01:03] <HetroErectus> aka the hacker shack
[01:04] <HetroErectus> hacker on wheelz
[01:05] <HetroErectus> mostly for streaming netflix and spotify though
[01:09] <HetroErectus> $40 for a computer doing that is pretty damn amazing
[01:15] <nomic> i like the pi3s
[01:15] <nomic> in that they have replaced my pcs
[01:16] <nomic> http://www.jeffgeerling.com/blog/2016/review-odroid-c2-compared-raspberry-pi-3-and-orange-pi-plus
[01:21] <HetroErectus> you run pi3 now?
[01:32] <nomic> yes
[01:45] <fifty-sevenC> The big thing pi has going for it is the support it has and how cheap it is
[01:47] <HetroErectus> nice
[01:48] <HetroErectus> just watched a vid of pi running kodi
[01:48] <HetroErectus> flawlessly!
[01:48] <HetroErectus> 1080p .. even software decoding
[01:49] <HetroErectus> 1080p is my default format.. a while yet to i upgrade to 4k
[01:50] <HetroErectus> however.. how well does it do say streaming netflix while running hexchat?
[01:51] <HetroErectus> you need chrome under linux for netflix
[01:51] <HetroErectus> doesnt to with some tiny light weight firefox hack
[01:51] <HetroErectus> doesnt do
[01:51] <fifty-sevenC> You have to have flash
[01:52] <HetroErectus> flash? reason it will only play in chrome is DMR
[01:52] <HetroErectus> chrome is propietary so it ships with it
[01:52] <HetroErectus> flash is out.. its DMR thats the issue
[01:52] <HetroErectus> i can live just fine without flash
[01:53] <prime_> Hey anyone know how to set it so that bluetooth does not turn on on start up on a laptop (not thinkpad) with mate?
[01:54] <HetroErectus> chromium wont play netflix since its open source.. neither will firefox.. etc
[01:55] <HetroErectus> allmost so i wish it would run chrome os
[01:55] <HetroErectus> will it? hmmm...
[01:55] <HetroErectus> ...yes it will!!!!
[02:06] <fifty-sevenC> prime
[02:06] <fifty-sevenC> hkjhkjghjkgf so annoying
[02:16] <HetroErectus> chromium-widevine is the package for playing it in chromium ... avaliable only on arch
[02:17] <HetroErectus> then netflix would run in open source browsers
[02:18] <fifty-sevenC> hmm
[02:19] <fifty-sevenC> If there was a way to make netflix not use html5 on a browser it detects capable it would fallback to flash and work fine in chromium
[02:20] <HetroErectus> thats not whats stopping netflix from playing, fifty.. its DRM
[02:20] <HetroErectus> digital rights management
[02:21] <HetroErectus> it just wont run on open source things
[02:22] <HetroErectus> firefox has flash but it still wont run netflix cause its tied to this spec package
[02:23] <fifty-sevenC> firefox will use the default html5 as well
[02:23] <HetroErectus> should be of high pri for the ubuntu developers to get this working
[02:23] <fifty-sevenC> the widevine drm scheme is for html5
[02:23] <HetroErectus> its irrelevant if its html5 or flash
[02:23] <fifty-sevenC> I don't think so
[02:23] <HetroErectus> i do
[02:24] <fifty-sevenC> Widevine is specific to html5
[02:26] <fifty-sevenC> Wait does netflix use silverlight or flash?
[02:26] <fifty-sevenC> If it is silverlight I don't know anything about it'
[02:26] <Nullifi3d> it used to use silverlight
[02:26] <Nullifi3d> not sure about now
[02:26] <fifty-sevenC> Ok
[02:26] <HetroErectus> now its html5
[02:26] <HetroErectus> but yes it used to be silverlight
[02:27] <fifty-sevenC> Ok so no flash fallback so it wouldn't work in chrome unless it is html5 widevine
[02:27] <HetroErectus> nods
[03:36] <emily_> test test
[08:12] <rafgas> Hello all, a little bit of panic! My mate install won't boot into gui!
[08:12] <rafgas> All I have is a cli in front of me
[08:26] <mhran> any one from support >
[08:26] <mhran> ?
[08:27] <mhran> I am running Ubuntu mate on raspberry pi 2
[08:28] <olegb> ubottu: question
[08:30] <rafgas> It says on my screen "no ACPI video bus found" before throwing me to "emergency mode" please help
[09:47] <potbelly> Not sure if this might be ubuntu-mate, but followed the instructions for irssi-ssl found here:
[09:47] <potbelly> http://www.andrews-corner.org/ubuntu/irssi.html
[09:48] <potbelly> and didn't see the SASL messages in connection dialogue
[11:41] <srir4m> hello
[11:44] <Akuli> Hi srir4m
[11:45] <srir4m> how u doin mate
[11:46] <ouroumov> hi srir4m
[11:49] <srir4m> hello!!! ouroumov
[11:49] <srir4m> damn u guys are super nice
[11:50] <ouroumov> If we don't say hi people tend to leave.
[11:50] <srir4m> lol
[11:51] <ouroumov> You're a new Ubuntu MATE user srir4m ?
[11:51] <srir4m> sooo u guys using ubuntu mate as a daily driver?
[11:51] <srir4m> yes....i was using lm 17.3 before this
 sooo u guys using ubuntu mate as a daily driver? -> yes
[11:52] <ouroumov> Since 16.04 Beta 2 ^^
[11:52] <srir4m> nice....
[11:52] <ouroumov> Before that I was using gnome-session-fallback ontop vanilla ubuntu
[11:52] <srir4m> is gnome 3 nice?
[11:53] <srir4m> or is it buggy?
[11:53] <ouroumov> I wouldn't know.
[11:53] <ouroumov> I only glanced at it and I found it was not for me :o
[11:54] <ouroumov> Not enough options ~ u_u
[11:54] <Akuli> I started with mint, but walked away when i realized how buggy the code for all the mint applications is, i can't believe my mint system worked as well as it did with such poor programming.
[11:55] <srir4m> really?
[11:55] <srir4m> i didnt encounter much bugs either
[11:55] <srir4m> how is mate??
[11:55] <srir4m> ubuntu
[11:55] <ouroumov> I was looking at the code for netcat the other day. It's fun to read. ^^
[11:55] <srir4m> is it stable now?
[11:55] <srir4m> cause ive heard users complain
[11:56] <ouroumov> srir4m, people have different experiences with it
[11:56] <ouroumov> There's a bunch of bugs.
[11:56] <srir4m> 16.04.1 might fix it
[11:56] <ouroumov> I hope most of them will get fixed when 14.04.1 will be released this summer
[11:56] <ouroumov> yup
[11:56] <ouroumov> 16*
[11:57] <srir4m> ill probably switch again
[11:57] <srir4m> maybe arch next time or antergos
[11:57] <srir4m> idk for now
[11:57] <srir4m> but soo far i do like this..
[11:58] <srir4m> i like the dark theme....lookin nice
[11:59] <ouroumov> I'm using Dark MATE + Icons and Window Borders from Ambiant MATE.
[12:00] <srir4m> whats the window manager are u using?
[12:00] <ouroumov> Marco + Compton
[12:00] <ouroumov> Compiz is buggy
[12:00] <srir4m> i was jus typin that
[12:00] <srir4m> nice
[12:00] <srir4m> does compton get rid of the vsync problem?
[12:00] <ouroumov> Yes
[12:01] <ouroumov> ^^
[12:01] <srir4m> good
[12:01] <srir4m> also......ubuntu mate's grub aint nice imo
[12:01] <srir4m> any way to replace that?
[12:02] <Akuli> srir4m, sudo apt-get remove ubuntu-mate-grub-theme
[12:02] <Akuli> i might remember the package name wrong, type first 10 characters or so and hit tab twice
[12:03] <ouroumov> You can also fallback to console mode using the GRUB_CONSOLE line in /etc/default/grub iirc
[12:03] <srir4m> ill try that
[12:03] <ouroumov> GRUB_TERMINAL *
[12:03] <srir4m> but now right now.....cause im updating s/w...soo terminal wont work
[12:05] <srir4m> u guys have ever tried debian?
[12:11] <Akuli> srir4m, i run devuan on my laptop, it's a fork of debian without systemd
[12:11] <Akuli> crazy fast
[12:12] <srir4m> nice...
[12:12] <srir4m> i was abt to try debian myself....but then i saw a joe collins video on youtube....and he was recommending this distro....sooo...i just went ahead and downloaded this instead
[12:13] <srir4m> what panel layout are u guys using?
[12:16] <Akuli> srir4m, none of the default ones, just start right-clicking them and do whatever you want
[12:16] <srir4m> lol
[12:16] <Akuli> srir4m, well, debian and ubuntu mate are basically opposites of each other :D debian is a traditional distro, ubuntu-mate is trying to be as modern as possible
[12:17] <srir4m> u guys have tried different DE's ??
[12:17] <srir4m> in this distro?
[12:17] <ouroumov> Yes
[12:17] <ouroumov> Oh
[12:17] <ouroumov> No
[12:17] <srir4m> in general?
[12:17] <ouroumov> Xubuntu, Lubuntu
[12:17] <srir4m> lxde or lxqt?
[12:17] <srir4m> idk....what lubuntu uses these days
[12:17] <srir4m> still lxde?
[12:17] <ouroumov> Don't remember :o
[12:17] <srir4m> xfce is nice tho
[12:17] <ouroumov> I like XFCE better
[12:18] <ouroumov> And I like how I can compile XFCE on the school's workstations
[12:18] <srir4m> yeah
[12:18] <srir4m> can i install gnome on this?
[12:18] <Akuli> whyyyyyyy??
[12:18] <srir4m> i want to try gnome 3.20
[12:18] <Akuli> i'm sure you can... but i don't know why you would do that
[12:19] <srir4m> i just want to try....
[12:19] <srir4m> many people like gnome
[12:19] <srir4m> and i wanna know why
[12:19] <Akuli> umm not any more
[12:19] <srir4m> soo what....kde?
[12:20] <srir4m> oh im sorry "plasma"
[12:20] <Akuli> gnome 2 was popular because it was the only really good desktop, but many people think gnome 3 is ugly and not user-friendly
[12:20] <Akuli> mate is a fork of gnome 2, for people who want to keep using something much like gnome 2
[12:20] <gordonjcp> srir4m: you can install anything that's packaged for Ubuntu on it
[12:21] <srir4m> i think they made mate look lot sexier now
[12:21] <srir4m> it looks gorgeous
[12:24] <ouroumov> There's a screenshot category on the forum if you wanna see the extent of possible customizations srir4m
[12:24] <Akuli> srir4m, no, that's ubuntu mate with all their fancy default settings.
[12:25] <srir4m> nice
[12:30] <srir4m> ummm how do i bring back update window
[12:31] <srir4m> it was updating...and i must have done something....now it closed
[12:33] <Akuli> don't use the gui to update if you have issues
[12:34] <Akuli> sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get upgrade
[12:34] <srir4m> no no...i know but it was already running
[12:34] <gordonjcp> srir4m: won't make any different
[12:34] <gordonjcp> *difference
[12:34] <gordonjcp> just run the update like Akuli says
[12:35] <gordonjcp> it'll either work fine or give one of a selection of errors
[12:36] <Akuli> like "dpkg is being locked by another process", i.e. its already running
[12:36] <srir4m> yeah its not
[12:37] <srir4m> i should also do dist-upgrade right?
[12:41] <luigi_> hi
[12:42] <Akuli> srir4m, i don't know, i've never used it
[12:42] <luigi_> im need lebnet6-1.3-dev
[12:42] <luigi_> and not found souces
[12:42] <Akuli> luigi_, what is that and why do you need it?
[12:43] <luigi_> is but use enttercap for linux
[12:43] <luigi_> need a libriries
[12:45] <luigi_> I found the repository
[12:46] <luigi_> cuando es  el momento de instalarlo, me dice que tiene dependecias, y los paquetes estan rotos
[12:47] <gordonjcp> okay
[12:47] <gordonjcp> but ettercap *is* available?
[12:48] <luigi_> yes
[12:50] <luigi_> http://installion.co.uk/ubuntu/vivid/universe/l/libnet6-1.3-0/install/index.html
[12:51] <luigi_> is a page, how install libnet
[12:57] <srir4m> sorry there
[12:58] <srir4m> i accidentally closed this window
[14:52] <Canopus> Good morning
[14:52] <Canopus> I'm using:
[14:52] <Canopus> Linux rpi2 4.1.19-v7+ #858 SMP Tue Mar 15 15:56:00 GMT 2016 armv7l armv7l armv7l GNU/Linux
[14:53] <Canopus> When I try to install this driver: https://github.com/chunkeey/rtl8192su (that worked for my wifi usb adapter in a previous version of ubuntu mate), I get this error:
[14:53] <Canopus> make[1]: *** /lib/modules/4.1.19-v7+/build: No such file or directory.  Stop.
[14:54] <Canopus> Looking at this thread: https://www.raspberrypi.org/forums/viewtopic.php?f=45&t=103989&start=25
[14:54] <Canopus> I seems that a possible solution is:
[14:54] <Canopus> sudo ln -s /home/pi/src/linux /lib/modules/4.1.13+/build
[14:55] <Canopus> where /home/pi/src/linux is my path to the linux source code
[14:55] <Canopus> my problem is that I'm not suere where my linux source code is
[14:55] <Canopus> * sure
[15:07] <ubuntu-mate> test
[15:52] <Canopus> I installed it. How can I open the network manager tray ?
[16:13] <Canopus> I got it working :)
[17:13] <mate|77930> Hello
[17:14] <mate|77930> is anyone around to maybe help me out with a touch screen on a lap top?
[17:17] <nomic> doesn't it work mate|77930
[17:17] <nomic> never have used touch pad
[17:17] <nomic> screen
[17:18] <nomic> you may get a sooner reply by posting a message a message on forums mate|77930
[17:18] <nomic> https://ubuntu-mate.community/
[17:19] <nomic> have you researched your hardware in relation to mate
[17:19] <ouroumov> hi mate|77930
[17:20] <ouroumov> mate|77930, have you installed the driver & firmware packages yet?
[17:20] <ouroumov> (in Welcome -> Getting Started)
[17:27] <mate|77930> nomic, never have used it before. it works but I dont know how to calibrate it.. it registers about an inch off of where I touch
[17:27] <mate|77930> ouroumov I have done that. just cannot figure calibration.. it work but not properly
[17:28] <nomic> must be calibrator
[17:28] <nomic> that works
[17:29] <mate|77930> how do I find calibrator?
[17:30] <mate|77930> sorry I'm a newbie trying to figure this out. no problems on my desktop and this is my only issue right now
[17:49] <mate|77930> wb ouroumov
[17:50] <ouroumov__> I think you're gonna have a hard time solving this problem mate|77930
[17:50] <ouroumov__> driver support in Linux for things like that... I'm not optimistic :/
[17:51] <mate|77930> well it works, but there has to be a way to calibrate sensitivity like calibrating a mouse or other peripheral
[17:52] <ouroumov__> If there is, I've no idea where. Have you looked in the mouse options? (Technically the screen is a pointing device, I guess)
[17:53] <ouroumov__> mate|77930, maybe I spoke too soon. Check this out: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Touchscreen
[17:55] <mate|77930> give me a few moments going to work through the directions.. much appreciated
[20:10] <jsowden> problem signing up to the forum
[20:15] <jsowden> let's try something different.  How do I set my own coloe, etc. para,eters in the editor vs. selecting one of someone elses?
[20:18] <nomic> the editor?
[20:18] <nomic> what color
[20:20] <jsowden> I installed um last night and it comes with an editor.  I can select themes, but not my own colors.  Color? blue background, white characters
[20:20] <nomic> you installed what?
[20:21] <jsowden> um = ubuntu mate (I am a lazy typist)
[20:23] <nomic> i think you can download more themes
[20:24] <jsowden> is there a theme editor?
[20:30] <jsowden> I/m back-hit the wrong button.  Re: theme editor, although i think that is a long way arround to solve the problem.
[20:32] <jsowden> maybe its back to mousepad
[20:33] <jsowden> 2nd Q: I changed the font on a LO SS to freesans 10.  All the drop down menus went blank in LO.  Never had this in xubuntu (10ish years)
[20:37] <El_Capitano> ola
[20:46] <jsowden> I just got the forum to work.  I'll try there,  au revoir
[20:46] <nomic> cool