[15:24] <Laris> hello
[15:30] <Kilos> hi  Laris
[15:30] <Laris> you speak urdu?
[15:30] <Kilos> no sorry only english
[15:31] <Laris> then why are you here
[15:31] <Kilos> because im trying to revive LoCo irc links
[15:31] <Laris> get lost please
[15:32] <Kilos> sorry
[15:32] <Laris> don't come in channels where you don't belong
[15:32] <Kilos> you arent a very friendly person are you
[15:33] <Kilos> this is the pakistan ubuntu channel not so?
[15:33] <Laris> i have pakistani blood after all
[15:33] <Laris> violence and murder is what I am
[15:33] <Kilos> i am from the ubuntu membership board
[15:34] <Laris> i am from ISIS
[15:34] <Kilos> so what
[15:34] <Laris> don't tell me your address if you like your life
[15:35] <Kilos> should i be shaking with fear
[15:35] <Laris> you don't need to shake
[15:35] <Laris> you'll only explode
[15:35] <Kilos> thank you
[15:35] <Laris> with us
[15:35] <Kilos> hahaha
[15:36] <Laris> but in seriousness, Kilos, where are you from
[15:36] <Kilos> from the membership board
[15:36] <Kilos> its a world wide move to revive weak locos
[15:37] <Laris> what do you think of pakistan
[15:38] <Kilos> i dont know much about pakistan except your loco isnt very active here
[15:38] <Laris> let me tell you some history
[15:38] <Laris> are you interested
[15:38] <Kilos> ok
[15:38] <Kilos> yes
[15:39] <Laris> do you know what happened in 1947
[15:39] <Kilos> nope
[15:39] <Laris> there is this country called india
[15:39] <Kilos> yes
[15:39] <Laris> and since 900 BC, there were two majorities
[15:39] <Laris> muslims and nonmuslims
[15:39] <Laris> they lived like brothers
[15:39] <Kilos> yes
[15:39] <Laris> until the british invaded india in 1800's
[15:39] <Laris> soon after they began to fight eachother
[15:39] <Kilos> ok
[15:40] <Laris> and in fighting eachother, they demanded that the british should fuck off and let them fight
[15:40] <Laris> the muslims said "We want our own land where we can live in peace, we don't want to be on the same bed as the British and the fucking Hindus."
[15:40] <Laris> so in 1947, india was divided
[15:40] <Laris> pakistan was formed out of this
[15:40] <Laris> are you with me so far, kilos
[15:41] <Laris> oh sorry i meant to say
[15:41] <Laris> 900* not 900 BC
[15:41] <Kilos> yes im here
[15:41] <Laris> do you know how pakistan became what it became, kilos
[15:42] <Kilos> no
[15:42] <Kilos> tell me
[15:42] <Laris> from 1947 upto 74, it was a lovely country
[15:42] <Laris> a peaceful one
[15:42] <Laris> there arose many intellectual movements, on poetry and science
[15:42] <Laris> abdus salam, the nobel-prize winning physicist, and faiz, who was nominated countless times for the nobel prize in literature
[15:42] <Laris> but soon, Kilos
[15:43] <Laris> it ended
[15:43] <Laris> in the midst of cold war
[15:43] <Laris> when the russians had their asses in afghanistan
[15:43] <Laris> afghanis soon began to flee in millions to pakistan
[15:43] <Laris> the president allowed them
[15:43] <Laris> this I think was the greatest mistake ever committed in the entire history of this country
[15:44] <Laris> they established themselves as the Taliban, and began bombing everywhere
[15:44] <Kilos> ok
[15:44] <Kilos> yes
[15:44] <Laris> Kilos; now we're a bombed country
[15:44] <Laris> Kilos; we went from being the next France to the next Iraq
[15:45] <Laris> now its a horrible country, Kilos
[15:45] <Kilos> thats a shame
[15:45] <Laris> don't come here if you value your family
[15:45] <Laris> i think soon, Kilos, germany will end up like pakistan
[15:45] <Laris> they're making the same mistake
[15:46] <Laris> in fact, Kilos
[15:46] <Laris> it was a female who allowed those afghanis to flee to pakistan in millions
[15:46] <Laris> named benazir bhutto, she was the leader at the time
[15:46] <Laris> it was a female too, angela merkel, who is allowing these syrians
[15:47] <Laris> will history repeat itself, Kilos
[15:47] <Laris> in your opinion
[15:47] <Kilos> most liely
[15:47] <Kilos> likely
[15:47] <Laris> do you honestly think so
[15:47] <Kilos> there isnt much we on the ground can do to change the paths of the political elite
[15:48] <Laris> islam is incompatible with the idea of making progress alone
[15:48] <Laris> unless you're a Sufi Muslim
[15:48] <Kilos> i try stay out of political discussions because that causes unnecessary strife
[15:49] <Laris> Kilos; where are you from, im curious
[15:49] <Kilos> i have made friends all over the world trying to promote ubuntu
[15:49] <Kilos> i am from south africa
[15:49] <Laris> very nice
[15:50] <Laris> am i your first pakistani friend
[15:50] <Kilos> yes
[15:50] <Laris> how lovely
[15:50] <Kilos> i have already some in bangladesh as well
[15:50] <Kilos> do you use ubuntu?
[15:51] <Laris> yes
[15:51] <Kilos> great
[15:51] <Laris> do you
[15:51] <Kilos> thats my job, to promote ubuntu and help LoCos grow
[15:51] <Laris> by the way im curious have you ever been tested for any mental illness
[15:52] <Kilos> i am using kubuntu 14.04 and ubuntu 12.04
[15:52] <Kilos> i have been tested for everything
[15:52] <Laris> do you know laura
[15:52] <Kilos> laura who?
[15:52] <Laris> your colleague at LoCos
[15:53] <Laris> laura czajkowski
[15:53] <Kilos> oh we have greeted each other a few times but everyone is so busy, there isnt time for chit chats
[15:54] <Laris> can you hit me up with her
[15:54] <Kilos> you can find her on #ubuntu-locoteams
[15:54] <Laris> are you serious
[15:54] <Kilos> she is afk at the moment
[15:54] <Laris> i can go there for free?
[15:54] <Kilos> yes
[15:54] <Laris> and chat with her, also for free?!
[15:55] <Laris> thank you very much kilos
[15:55] <Laris> is she taken or what
[15:55] <Kilos> you cant chat there that channel is for loco issues mainly
[15:55] <Laris> dont worry ill make up an issue
[15:55] <Kilos> just dont start any trouble please
[15:56] <Laris> i will not i promise
[15:56] <Kilos> i am trying to keep everyone on ubuntu on friendly terms
[15:56] <Laris> whats her username by the way
[15:56] <Laris> oh its czajkowski
[15:57] <Laris> in your opinion, kilos, do i have any chance with her
[15:57] <Kilos> czajkowski
[15:58] <Kilos> i have no idea , she is very involved in ubuntu work
[15:58] <Laris> is she beautiful in your opinion
[15:58] <Kilos> i dont know
[15:58] <Kilos> hehe
[15:59] <Kilos> i think she got married last month or so
[15:59] <Kilos> i dont remember every bodies business
[16:00] <Kilos> more importantly is what are you doing to grow and promote ubuntu
[16:01] <Laris> have you ever met the founder of ubuntu, Kilos
[16:01] <Kilos> i know pk has a facebook following but i dont use facebook
[16:01] <Kilos> no but i have emailed him
[16:02] <Kilos> he was born here in za
[16:04] <Kilos> mark is much younger than i am
[16:04] <Laris> how old is he
[16:05] <Kilos> i suppose younger than my son even
[16:05] <Kilos> you can google mark shuttleworth
[16:05] <Laris> wow
[17:36] <belkinsa> o/ all
[17:36] <Kilos> hi belkinsa
[17:36] <belkinsa> Has this person left?
[17:36] <Kilos> yes
[17:36] <belkinsa> What it was over?
[17:36] <Kilos> he became friendly afterwards
[17:37] <belkinsa> Huh, maybe he just didn't know you.
[17:37] <Kilos> me being in this channel and not speaking urdu
[17:37] <Kilos> hehe
[17:37] <Kilos> politics seems to be an issue with many peeps in that region
[17:38] <belkinsa> Ah, I see.
[17:38] <belkinsa> Why did you pop in this channel?
[17:38] <Kilos> anyway first contact is goos
[17:39] <Kilos> because i wanted to help pavel get permission to translate for them
[17:39] <Kilos> then just stayed here to see if i could help fix this group as well
[17:39] <belkinsa> Ah.  Which loco is this one?
[17:40] <Kilos> i dont care about politics
[17:40] <Kilos> i care about spreading ubuntu community
[17:40] <belkinsa> I know.
[17:40] <Kilos> pakistan
[17:41] <belkinsa> That's what I figured that this is the Pakistan LoCo, but how does Pavel fit in?
[17:41] <Kilos> he wanted to translate for them
[17:41] <Kilos> he speaks the language
[17:42] <belkinsa> Oh really?  He speak urdu?
[17:42] <Kilos> i think so yes
[17:42] <Kilos> he is trying to help where he can to grow his karma
[17:42] <Kilos> doing well i think
[17:43] <Kilos> i have no karma anymore
[17:43] <Kilos> hehe
[17:43] <belkinsa> Yeah, but he also needs grow his relationship with the ones he works with.
[17:43] <Kilos> he is
[17:43] <belkinsa> Duh.  You are watching him more closely than I am.
[17:44] <Kilos> he has brought three or 4 new guys to -bd channel as well
[17:44] <Kilos> lol
[17:44] <Kilos> his lp page is growing
[17:45] <belkinsa> Nice.