[04:09] <anton_may> mornings
[05:27]  * Kilos waves
[06:06] <anton_may> 0/
[06:12] <Kilos> hi urbanslug 
[07:20] <anton_may> quiet for a friday
[07:21] <Kilos> hi anton_may Xethron inetpro dlPhreak tahaan thatgraemeguy theblazehen TinuvaMac mazal and other
[07:21] <Kilos> s
[07:23] <anton_may> 0/ Kilos
[07:32] <Kilos> hi nlsthzn 
[07:32]  * nlsthzn didn't seem to get a ping there :/
[07:32] <nlsthzn> oh hai
[07:33] <nlsthzn> how are you uncle Kilos?
[07:33] <nlsthzn> all well I hope
[07:33] <Kilos> ok ty nlsthzn and you?
[07:34] <nlsthzn> fine thanks
[07:34] <Kilos> yeah just winter again sigh
[07:34] <nlsthzn> it happens about once a year doesn't it :p
[07:35] <Cryterion> Mornings
[07:35] <Kilos> yeah strangley enough rather regular
[07:35] <Kilos> hi Cryterion 
[07:39] <inetpro> goeiemirrag oom Kilos
[07:39] <inetpro> oh and ohi to everyone else
[07:39] <Kilos> hi there inetpro 
[07:41] <Kilos> who wants to go win this for me http://mybroadband.co.za/vb/showthread.php/818182-Win-a-GIGABYTE-gaming-laptop-worth-R21-000
[07:41] <Kilos> or for himself
[08:17] <inetpro> uh oh!!
[08:17] <inetpro> Apt-get update hangs in 16.04 http://askubuntu.com/questions/774985/apt-get-update-hangs-in-16-04
[08:17] <Kilos> what
[08:17] <Kilos> ai!
[08:18] <inetpro> appstreamcli process never terminates
[08:18] <inetpro> Bug #1583862
[08:18] <inetpro> had this thing last night at home and thought it was just me 
[08:19] <inetpro> now here at work as well
[08:19] <Kilos> why you not using apt update
[08:20] <Kilos> wb tahaan 
[08:20]  * tahaan bows
[08:22] <inetpro> Kilos: that is irrelevant 
[08:22] <inetpro> hi tahaan
[08:23] <tahaan> Does anyone know where I can quickly "paste" a screenshot, something like pastebin?
[08:23] <inetpro> happens on Kubuntu 16.04 desktop but not on server 
[08:23] <Kilos> http://pasteboard.co
[08:24] <Kilos> tahaan in the topic bar of your client are links to bins
[08:24] <Kilos> inetpro my point was that maybe apt doesnt
[08:25] <tahaan> Ahh, picpaste!  Great
[08:25] <Kilos> also try the software centre reload
[08:25] <Kilos> see if its a prob in all the upgrade facilities
[08:26] <tahaan> Does anybody here use Kubuntu?  Is Ubuntu-za flavour specific (to Unity Ubuntu?)
[08:26] <Kilos> yes a few of us
[08:27] <inetpro> Appstreamcli is COOKING my laptop? What is it? UBUNTU 16.04 http://askubuntu.com/questions/774986/appstreamcli-is-cooking-my-laptop-what-is-it-ubuntu-16-04
[08:27] <Kilos> its just the gui thats different 
[08:28] <Kilos> tahaan we have users of all buntu flavours and other linux distros as well
[08:28] <Kilos> namely arch
[08:28] <Kilos> and some redhat certified peeps as well
[08:29]  * inetpro wondering whether we even need AppStream
[08:30] <Kilos> at least there is a fix already inetpro 
[08:30] <inetpro> I wouldn't call that a fix
[08:30] <inetpro> that's just a workaround
[08:30] <Kilos> ya that
[08:31] <Kilos> did you report the bug as well so its prioriy can raise
[08:33] <inetpro> https://www.freedesktop.org/software/appstream/docs/chap-AppStream-About.html
[08:33] <inetpro> Kilos: 05/20 10:18:35 <inetpro> Bug #1583862
[08:33] <Kilos> good lad
[08:33] <inetpro> I didn't report it
[08:34] <Kilos> then just add man, say its killing you as well
[08:35] <tahaan> I'm having a lot of instability with using the new Kubuntu
[08:35] <Kilos> i use 14.04 tahaan 
[08:35] <tahaan> All essentially related to multi-screen and in particular changing back and forward between single and multi-screen modes.
[08:36] <Kilos> mazal also has probs with 16.04 and inetpro this morning
[08:36] <tahaan> Kilos : I have a dual-boot... 
[08:36] <tahaan> 14.04 is my fall-back
[08:36] <Kilos> have you asked on #ubuntu ? im sure they are having many screams for help there
[08:37] <tahaan> #ubuntu no.  They are NOT flavour-agnostic.
[08:37] <tahaan> kubuntu yes.  The response I got:  Multi-screen is not stable yet.
[08:37] <Kilos> ah
[08:38] <Kilos> have you joined us on LP and mailing list yet?
[08:39] <inetpro> kubuntu 16.04 has been relatively stable for me lately, having said that I do not use multi-screen
[08:39] <tahaan> LP = what? (I assume the answer is no)
[08:39] <Kilos> launchpad
[08:39] <Kilos> https://ubuntu-za.org
[08:39] <Kilos> go there and choose get involved
[08:39] <inetpro> had a few problems during the beta phase but all in all worth it for me
[08:50] <Langjan> G'morning guys, hi Kilos 
[08:50] <Langjan> and dolls (are there any?)
[08:50] <Kilos> hi Langjan 
[08:51] <Kilos> none today
[08:51] <Langjan> Alles wel by jou Kilos 
[08:51] <Kilos> what broke
[08:51] <Langjan> lmga!
[08:51] <Kilos> yes ty and there?
[08:51] <Kilos> hehe
[08:51] <Langjan> also fine thks
[08:51] <Langjan> I have another Ubuntu convert
[08:51] <Kilos> yay
[08:51] <Langjan> but...
[08:51] <Kilos> well done
[08:51] <Langjan> thks
[08:51] <Kilos> uh oh
[08:52] <Langjan> haha
[08:52] <Kilos> but what?
[08:52] <Kilos> hahaha
[08:52] <Kilos> spit it out man
[08:53] <Kilos> dont prolong the agony
[08:53] <Langjan> when I run the cd (12.04) on his oldish machine (I upgraded him to 2 GB ram) - just a sec plse
[08:53] <Kilos> ok
[08:54] <Langjan> sorry phone call
[08:54] <Kilos> np
[08:54] <tahaan> My problems seems to all be related to multi-screen mode.  As long as I stick to only the built-in screen I'm fine.  https://imgur.com/gallery/s7YvTBJ
[08:55] <Langjan> it runs fine on win xp but when I boot it on cd, it runs for a few minutes then cuts out, the fan keeps running but the machine is dead
[08:55] <Langjan> maybe overheat cutout?
[08:55] <Kilos> hmm... its busy thinking
[08:56] <Langjan> restart on win xp and all is fine
[08:56] <Kilos> i had a prob one where xp had done something in mbr that wouldnt allow linux in
[08:56] <Kilos> something in bios also to set it think
[08:56] <Langjan> well it boots on Ubuntu, opens everything but just for a few minutes
[08:57] <Kilos> yes it only when you try install
[08:57] <Kilos> hmm...
[08:57] <Langjan> no, running on "try"
[08:57] <Kilos> oh
[08:58] <Kilos> do you want to install alongside or wipe windows
[08:58] <tahaan> Avoid MBR by trying a live CD?
[08:59] <Langjan> Want to run on "try" first and then install alongside for now 
[08:59] <Kilos> ya the try option is live
[08:59] <Kilos> what size drive Langjan 
[09:00] <Kilos> this is gonna be one of those sukkel installs again
[09:00] <Langjan> something else I noticed, the first time it booted on cd it connected to Internet, the next time it could not connect
[09:00] <Kilos> sjoe
[09:00] <Langjan> oh I think you hit the nail, its a very small, full drive 
[09:02] <Langjan> seems its partitioned and just about all used up 
[09:02] <Kilos> put that other 80g in and try
[09:03] <Langjan> ok thks you put me on the track, I think
[09:03] <Langjan> The 80g in by Susan but I still have the 160g
[09:04] <Kilos> add the 80g and disconnect the old drive
[09:04] <Kilos> ok
[09:04] <Kilos> any other drive
[09:04] <Kilos> full drives sukkel
[09:04] <Langjan> makes sense
[09:05] <Kilos> especially if they have ms on and never run chkdsk
[09:05] <Langjan> did not think booting and running on cd will be affected by fullnes of drive
[09:05] <Kilos> and you battle more when trying to do things with unity
[09:05] <Kilos> hehe
[09:05] <Langjan> lmga
[09:05] <Langjan> boring...
[09:05] <Langjan> haha
[09:06] <Kilos> 12.04 network manager was a pain
[09:06] <Langjan> Jy's soos die spreekwordelike kraan wat drup in die Bybel met jou kde
[09:06] <Kilos> lol
[09:07] <Kilos> well
[09:07] <Langjan> I will rather use the usb 
[09:07] <Langjan> to boot from
[09:07] <Kilos> sooner or later after lots of hammering, things tend to break through the fog
[09:07] <Kilos> usb is fine
[09:07] <Langjan> tre ram kept butting the dam
[09:08] <Langjan> the 
[09:08] <Kilos> lol
[09:08] <Langjan> you have high hopes...
[09:08] <Kilos> i normally win in the long run
[09:08] <Langjan> no ways, then I have to teach all my converts a new system
[09:09] <Langjan> hey learn hard
[09:09] <Kilos> then i hear, "why didnt i do this long ago"
[09:09] <Langjan> they are old peeps, learn hard
[09:09] <Kilos> change drives man
[09:09] <Langjan> me also as you know
[09:10] <Kilos> lemme make coffee and look for painpills
[09:10] <Kilos> hehe
[09:11] <Langjan> eish, pain pills bad news, sorry to hear!
[09:11] <Langjan> Will chat later, gotta go thks Kilos 
[09:12] <Kilos> ai!
[09:31] <inetpro> Can You Top This? 15 Practical Linux Top Command Examples http://www.thegeekstuff.com/2010/01/15-practical-unix-linux-top-command-examples/
[09:34] <inetpro> use top to figure out what is eating your CPU, memory or disk with dynamic real-time view of a running system
[11:57]  * mazal peeks in
[12:04] <theblazehen> Hi mazal 
[12:04] <theblazehen> How are you?
[12:04] <theblazehen> Wow. 11s latency here to the uk
[12:05]  * anton_may WA
[12:14] <mazal> Hi theblazehen , okish and you ?
[12:14] <mazal> Just struggling with another new Kubuntu issue
[12:34] <mazal> l8r all
[16:05] <inetpro> good mornings
[16:05] <Kilos> morning inetpro 
[16:05] <mazal> Evening inetpro
[16:06] <inetpro> mazal: what's wrong?
[16:06] <Kilos> lol
[16:06] <mazal> hey ?
[16:06] <inetpro> 05/20 14:14:27 <mazal> Just struggling with another new Kubuntu issue
[16:06] <Kilos> he forgot
[16:06] <mazal> Oh , I can't copy folder to memory stick suddenly
[16:06] <Kilos> permissions?
[16:06] <mazal> Dolphin gives error " folder and expected a file "
[16:07] <Kilos> oh my
[16:07] <mazal> Kilos, nope , it's to fat 32
[16:07] <inetpro> what filesystem?
[16:07] <mazal> I had to install another app just to copy a folder
[16:07] <inetpro> oh fat32
[16:07] <mazal> From EXT4 in my home to fat32 stick
[16:08] <mazal> Copied from double commander and worked fine there. So it's a dolphin issue
[16:08] <inetpro> double commander?
[16:09] <mazal> Which had to come in the last two days as I still copied on Wednesday without issue
[16:10] <mazal> inetpro, is just a kind of midnight commander clone
[16:10] <inetpro> why?
[16:10] <mazal> Is the first app I could think of to try and copy
[16:11] <mazal> Cos Dolphin can't copy
[16:11] <inetpro> did you try via cli?
[16:11] <mazal> nope
[16:11] <inetpro> ai!
[16:11] <mazal> It's 2016 not 1986 :P
[16:11] <Kilos> ai!
[16:12] <Kilos> sudo cp
[16:12] <mazal> I suspect that cli will work though
[16:12] <Kilos> cli more powerful
[16:12] <inetpro> why sudo Kilos?
[16:12] <inetpro> just man cp
[16:12] <Kilos> to force any evils away
[16:13] <Kilos> i forgot its not into home stuffs
[16:13] <Kilos> or root stuffs
[16:13] <Kilos> i think sudo has embedded itself in my noggin
[16:13] <mazal> Kilos, yeah my sticks always fat32 so no permissions involved
[16:14] <inetpro> don't look at every problem like it is a nail
[16:14] <mazal> Like a nail ?
[16:14] <Kilos> try the cp command
[16:15] <inetpro> because it looks like all you have is a hammer
[16:15] <mazal> Kilos, cp will work , it's a dolphin issue
[16:15] <Kilos> then try reinstall dolphin
[16:15] <Kilos> maybe its missing a fix update
[16:15] <Kilos> use aptitude
[16:15] <inetpro> or because it looks like you seem to think that all you have is a hammer
[16:15] <Kilos> lol
[16:16] <mazal> Wierd error though , never seen it before
[16:16] <mazal> inetpro, why ? I simply changed to another app and that worked
[16:17] <inetpro> without much evidence I really couldn't tell
[16:17] <inetpro> certainly doesn't make sense at all
[16:18] <mazal> Will make a print screen for you on Monday
[16:18] <inetpro> and I really can't imagine it being a dolphin issue
[16:19] <inetpro> and a reinstall would be yet another hammer/nail scenario
[16:19] <mazal> Well if dolphin fails and another apps succeeds ?
[16:19] <inetpro> I bet there will be a logical reason for it
[16:20] <mazal> Lemme check if this pc does the same then I can make printscreen
[16:20] <mazal> Gotta just wait for iso to finish
[16:22] <mazal> Shees cleaning cache take forever on these iso's hey Kilos
[16:22] <mazal> Yay finished. Gonna test that copy now
[16:25] <mazal> On this pc works fine , so it's specific to my pc at office
[16:37] <mazal> Hi kulelu88 , I got that dukto update working btw
[16:37] <kulelu88> nice mazal 
[16:38] <mazal> Looks like Suse took over that project though
[16:38] <mazal> Dukto's sourforge page haven't had a new file since Feb 2015
[16:39] <kulelu88> it's very useful software to share files across a network
[16:40] <mazal> Yeah me and my collegue loves that app
[16:40]  * mazal goes to check on data left
[16:42] <mazal> Wow I'm 12gig behind where I should be
[16:42] <mazal> And by behind I mean extra left
[16:43] <mazal> Hi deegee
[16:43] <Kilos> ha the real deegee is here
[16:43] <Kilos> hi davey
[16:43] <Kilos> inetpro what happened your two handlangers
[16:44] <kulelu88> what internet you use and how fast? mazal 
[16:45] <mazal> kulelu88, Telkom mobile and it's horrible. Most evenings it's unusable
[16:46] <mazal> The whole of last night I couldn't even open email
[16:46] <kulelu88> internet in SA is generally on the shit to extremely shit scale
[16:46] <mazal> Tonight is a bit better , average around 300k
[16:47] <mazal> Kilos, see that's what happen when you don't buy new games , you suddenly have data left lol
[16:47] <Kilos> lol
[16:48] <mazal> Still saying nooooo to all the releases. Haning in strong
[16:48] <mazal> hanging*
[16:48]  * mazal puts in an iso download
[16:50] <mazal> Ag now that wasn't smart. How am I supposed to mc now with a download running
[16:53] <mazal> Kilos, I learned something lekker the last 2 days
[16:53] <mazal> Setting up a mc server :) Now I have new toy , but no space for it
[17:00] <Kilos> lol
[17:24] <FusionSparc> Evening
[17:29] <Kilos> hi FusionSparc 
[17:30] <FusionSparc> You doing well, Kilos?
[17:30] <Kilos> yes ty and you?
[17:30] <FusionSparc> I am now, it's weekend.. :)
[17:30] <Kilos> haha
[17:32] <Kilos> im proud of you mazal 
[17:32] <Kilos> well done
[17:59] <Kilos> hi nlsthzn 
[18:00] <Kilos> we 9°c tonight and 20°c tomorrow
[18:00] <Kilos> brrr
[18:39] <FusionSparc> Anyone in the channel to give some insight on mounting samba shares again..
[18:44] <Kilos> kulelu88 did you get the message about sasl
[18:45] <Kilos> paddatrapper dis naweek, hoekom do still. jy skaam oor iets?
[18:45] <Kilos> ohi superfly 
[18:45] <FusionSparc> I'm off, pleasent week everyone.
[18:45] <Kilos> you too FusionSparc 
[18:45] <superfly> Good evening.
[18:45] <Kilos> you didnt wait for help man
[18:46] <kulelu88> yes I did
[18:46] <Kilos> and it works now?
[18:46] <kulelu88> I guess I'll use what works for now
[18:46] <Kilos> mine does
[18:46] <Kilos> just change it man
[18:46] <Kilos> hehe
[18:47] <FusionSparc> Looks like eveyones a bit pre-occupied, will have a go at it again tomorrow,,
[18:47] <kulelu88> FusionSparc: try #samba
[18:47] <Kilos> tomorrow is saterday
[18:47] <Kilos> shopping day
[18:47] <FusionSparc> lol...no one responding asw ell..
[18:47] <FusionSparc> probably..
[18:47] <Kilos> superfly is your car fixed
[18:48] <Kilos> they just need waking up FusionSparc 
[18:48] <superfly> No, it broke on Wednesday again. I took a look this evening and found one of the spark plug connectors had bust
[18:48] <FusionSparc> hehe..probably...
[18:48] <Kilos> bust how
[18:49] <superfly> A friend has lent us one of their cars for the weekend, so we can get around, thank the Lord, but I need to get my chorrie fixes ASAP.
[18:49] <Kilos> those things are strong
[18:49] <Kilos> eish my fly
[18:49] <superfly> Kilos: yes, but mine is aeons old
[18:52] <kulelu88> what car is it? superfly 
[18:53] <superfly> kulelu88: '93 VW Jetta 3
[18:53] <kulelu88> olllllddd school
[18:54] <Kilos> best cars on the road
[18:54] <Kilos> mine was a jetta 2
[18:54] <Kilos> now its most likely spares on 10 other cars
[18:55] <kulelu88> which format makes more sense to you guys...
[18:55] <kulelu88> format1: x [start-date]:[end-date] due:[due-date] +Project (Priority) Do something here @filter
[18:55] <kulelu88> or format2: +Project [start-date]:[end-date] due:[due-date] (Priority) Do something here @filter
[18:56] <Kilos> 2 imo but wait for exoert opinion
[18:56] <Kilos> expert
[18:57] <kulelu88> i'm thinking going with project first makes sense
[18:57] <kulelu88> so things can be viewed per project
[18:57] <superfly> I agree, second. You'll want to visually filter by project
[18:57] <kulelu88> I can drop the x cause I have end dates as well
[18:58] <kulelu88> jury is out for having a due-date
[18:58] <kulelu88> perhaps end-date == due-date
[18:59] <kulelu88> Maybe:  +Project [start-date]:[due/end-date] (Priority) Do something here @filter
[18:59] <kulelu88> That format looks beautiful and readable
[18:59] <Kilos> lol
[19:00] <Kilos> looks like words in brackets to me
[19:02] <kulelu88> this is the end-product Kilos 
[19:03] <Kilos> oh so its done already
[19:03] <kulelu88> +todoapp 18-5-2016:19-5-2016 (A) Launch version 0.01 of todoapp @github
[19:03] <kulelu88> Can an oom like you understand that format also? Kilos 
[19:04] <Kilos> of course
[19:04] <Kilos> not
[19:04] <Kilos> im only a greeter bot
[19:04] <Kilos> and go threatened by isis today
[19:05] <Kilos> hehe
[19:07] <Kilos> s/go/got
[19:07] <kulelu88> isis where?
[19:07] <Kilos> pakistan
[19:07] <Kilos> didnt even know they were there as well
[19:08] <Kilos> one tried to chase me off their channel
[19:08] <Kilos> he shoulda known ek skrik nie vir koue pap nie
[19:09] <kulelu88> what were you doing in a pakistan channel? 
[19:09] <nlsthzn> sup all :)
[19:09] <Kilos> waking up their loco
[19:09] <Kilos> hi nlsthzn 
[19:09] <nlsthzn> 23:00 and 32degC outside >.<
[19:09] <Kilos> all ubuntu channels are my domain
[19:10] <Kilos> swop nlsthzn 
[19:10] <kulelu88> where you at? nls
[19:10] <kulelu88> nlsthzn: 
[19:10] <nlsthzn> UAE
[19:10] <Kilos> ahab land
[19:10] <nlsthzn> if I could swop I would :p
[19:10] <kulelu88> wow, that's warm. can chill on the stoep
[19:10] <nlsthzn> and summer hasn't really started yet >.<
[19:22] <Kilos> you should be used to it by now nlsthzn 
[19:22] <Kilos> young peeps adapt easier
[19:23] <nlsthzn> I don't think one adapts to the extremes as much as live with it cause you don't have a choice :p
[19:34] <Kilos> night all. sleep tight