[04:09] mornings [05:27] * Kilos waves [06:06] 0/ [06:12] hi urbanslug [07:20] quiet for a friday [07:21] hi anton_may Xethron inetpro dlPhreak tahaan thatgraemeguy theblazehen TinuvaMac mazal and other [07:21] s [07:23] 0/ Kilos [07:32] hi nlsthzn [07:32] * nlsthzn didn't seem to get a ping there :/ [07:32] oh hai [07:33] how are you uncle Kilos? [07:33] all well I hope [07:33] ok ty nlsthzn and you? [07:34] fine thanks [07:34] yeah just winter again sigh [07:34] it happens about once a year doesn't it :p [07:35] Mornings [07:35] yeah strangley enough rather regular [07:35] hi Cryterion [07:39] goeiemirrag oom Kilos [07:39] oh and ohi to everyone else [07:39] hi there inetpro [07:41] who wants to go win this for me http://mybroadband.co.za/vb/showthread.php/818182-Win-a-GIGABYTE-gaming-laptop-worth-R21-000 [07:41] or for himself [08:17] uh oh!! [08:17] Apt-get update hangs in 16.04 http://askubuntu.com/questions/774985/apt-get-update-hangs-in-16-04 [08:17] what [08:17] ai! [08:18] appstreamcli process never terminates [08:18] Bug #1583862 [08:18] had this thing last night at home and thought it was just me [08:19] now here at work as well [08:19] why you not using apt update [08:20] wb tahaan [08:20] * tahaan bows [08:22] Kilos: that is irrelevant [08:22] hi tahaan [08:23] Does anyone know where I can quickly "paste" a screenshot, something like pastebin? [08:23] happens on Kubuntu 16.04 desktop but not on server [08:23] http://pasteboard.co [08:24] tahaan in the topic bar of your client are links to bins [08:24] inetpro my point was that maybe apt doesnt [08:25] Ahh, picpaste! Great [08:25] also try the software centre reload [08:25] see if its a prob in all the upgrade facilities [08:26] Does anybody here use Kubuntu? Is Ubuntu-za flavour specific (to Unity Ubuntu?) [08:26] yes a few of us [08:27] Appstreamcli is COOKING my laptop? What is it? UBUNTU 16.04 http://askubuntu.com/questions/774986/appstreamcli-is-cooking-my-laptop-what-is-it-ubuntu-16-04 [08:27] its just the gui thats different [08:28] tahaan we have users of all buntu flavours and other linux distros as well [08:28] namely arch [08:28] and some redhat certified peeps as well [08:29] * inetpro wondering whether we even need AppStream [08:30] at least there is a fix already inetpro [08:30] I wouldn't call that a fix [08:30] that's just a workaround [08:30] ya that [08:31] did you report the bug as well so its prioriy can raise [08:33] https://www.freedesktop.org/software/appstream/docs/chap-AppStream-About.html [08:33] Kilos: 05/20 10:18:35 Bug #1583862 [08:33] good lad [08:33] I didn't report it [08:34] then just add man, say its killing you as well [08:35] I'm having a lot of instability with using the new Kubuntu [08:35] i use 14.04 tahaan [08:35] All essentially related to multi-screen and in particular changing back and forward between single and multi-screen modes. [08:36] mazal also has probs with 16.04 and inetpro this morning [08:36] Kilos : I have a dual-boot... [08:36] 14.04 is my fall-back [08:36] have you asked on #ubuntu ? im sure they are having many screams for help there [08:37] #ubuntu no. They are NOT flavour-agnostic. [08:37] kubuntu yes. The response I got: Multi-screen is not stable yet. [08:37] ah [08:38] have you joined us on LP and mailing list yet? [08:39] kubuntu 16.04 has been relatively stable for me lately, having said that I do not use multi-screen [08:39] LP = what? (I assume the answer is no) [08:39] launchpad [08:39] https://ubuntu-za.org [08:39] go there and choose get involved [08:39] had a few problems during the beta phase but all in all worth it for me [08:50] G'morning guys, hi Kilos [08:50] and dolls (are there any?) [08:50] hi Langjan [08:51] none today [08:51] Alles wel by jou Kilos [08:51] what broke [08:51] lmga! [08:51] yes ty and there? [08:51] hehe [08:51] also fine thks [08:51] I have another Ubuntu convert [08:51] yay [08:51] but... [08:51] well done [08:51] thks [08:51] uh oh [08:52] haha [08:52] but what? [08:52] hahaha [08:52] spit it out man [08:53] dont prolong the agony [08:53] when I run the cd (12.04) on his oldish machine (I upgraded him to 2 GB ram) - just a sec plse [08:53] ok [08:54] sorry phone call [08:54] np [08:54] My problems seems to all be related to multi-screen mode. As long as I stick to only the built-in screen I'm fine. https://imgur.com/gallery/s7YvTBJ [08:55] it runs fine on win xp but when I boot it on cd, it runs for a few minutes then cuts out, the fan keeps running but the machine is dead [08:55] maybe overheat cutout? [08:55] hmm... its busy thinking [08:56] restart on win xp and all is fine [08:56] i had a prob one where xp had done something in mbr that wouldnt allow linux in [08:56] something in bios also to set it think [08:56] well it boots on Ubuntu, opens everything but just for a few minutes [08:57] yes it only when you try install [08:57] hmm... [08:57] no, running on "try" [08:57] oh [08:58] do you want to install alongside or wipe windows [08:58] Avoid MBR by trying a live CD? [08:59] Want to run on "try" first and then install alongside for now [08:59] ya the try option is live [08:59] what size drive Langjan [09:00] this is gonna be one of those sukkel installs again [09:00] something else I noticed, the first time it booted on cd it connected to Internet, the next time it could not connect [09:00] sjoe [09:00] oh I think you hit the nail, its a very small, full drive [09:02] seems its partitioned and just about all used up [09:02] put that other 80g in and try [09:03] ok thks you put me on the track, I think [09:03] The 80g in by Susan but I still have the 160g [09:04] add the 80g and disconnect the old drive [09:04] ok [09:04] any other drive [09:04] full drives sukkel [09:04] makes sense [09:05] especially if they have ms on and never run chkdsk [09:05] did not think booting and running on cd will be affected by fullnes of drive [09:05] and you battle more when trying to do things with unity [09:05] hehe [09:05] lmga [09:05] boring... [09:05] haha [09:06] 12.04 network manager was a pain [09:06] Jy's soos die spreekwordelike kraan wat drup in die Bybel met jou kde [09:06] lol [09:07] well [09:07] I will rather use the usb [09:07] to boot from [09:07] sooner or later after lots of hammering, things tend to break through the fog [09:07] usb is fine [09:07] tre ram kept butting the dam [09:08] the [09:08] lol [09:08] you have high hopes... [09:08] i normally win in the long run [09:08] no ways, then I have to teach all my converts a new system [09:09] hey learn hard [09:09] then i hear, "why didnt i do this long ago" [09:09] they are old peeps, learn hard [09:09] change drives man [09:09] me also as you know [09:10] lemme make coffee and look for painpills [09:10] hehe [09:11] eish, pain pills bad news, sorry to hear! [09:11] Will chat later, gotta go thks Kilos [09:12] ai! [09:31] Can You Top This? 15 Practical Linux Top Command Examples http://www.thegeekstuff.com/2010/01/15-practical-unix-linux-top-command-examples/ [09:34] use top to figure out what is eating your CPU, memory or disk with dynamic real-time view of a running system [11:57] * mazal peeks in [12:04] Hi mazal [12:04] How are you? [12:04] Wow. 11s latency here to the uk [12:05] * anton_may WA [12:14] Hi theblazehen , okish and you ? [12:14] Just struggling with another new Kubuntu issue [12:34] l8r all [16:05] good mornings [16:05] morning inetpro [16:05] Evening inetpro [16:06] mazal: what's wrong? [16:06] lol [16:06] hey ? [16:06] 05/20 14:14:27 Just struggling with another new Kubuntu issue [16:06] he forgot [16:06] Oh , I can't copy folder to memory stick suddenly [16:06] permissions? [16:06] Dolphin gives error " folder and expected a file " [16:07] oh my [16:07] Kilos, nope , it's to fat 32 [16:07] what filesystem? [16:07] I had to install another app just to copy a folder [16:07] oh fat32 [16:07] From EXT4 in my home to fat32 stick [16:08] Copied from double commander and worked fine there. So it's a dolphin issue [16:08] double commander? [16:09] Which had to come in the last two days as I still copied on Wednesday without issue [16:10] inetpro, is just a kind of midnight commander clone [16:10] why? [16:10] Is the first app I could think of to try and copy [16:11] Cos Dolphin can't copy [16:11] did you try via cli? [16:11] nope [16:11] ai! [16:11] It's 2016 not 1986 :P [16:11] ai! [16:12] sudo cp [16:12] I suspect that cli will work though [16:12] cli more powerful [16:12] why sudo Kilos? [16:12] just man cp [16:12] to force any evils away [16:13] i forgot its not into home stuffs [16:13] or root stuffs [16:13] i think sudo has embedded itself in my noggin [16:13] Kilos, yeah my sticks always fat32 so no permissions involved [16:14] don't look at every problem like it is a nail [16:14] Like a nail ? [16:14] try the cp command [16:15] because it looks like all you have is a hammer [16:15] Kilos, cp will work , it's a dolphin issue [16:15] then try reinstall dolphin [16:15] maybe its missing a fix update [16:15] use aptitude [16:15] or because it looks like you seem to think that all you have is a hammer [16:15] lol [16:16] Wierd error though , never seen it before [16:16] inetpro, why ? I simply changed to another app and that worked [16:17] without much evidence I really couldn't tell [16:17] certainly doesn't make sense at all [16:18] Will make a print screen for you on Monday [16:18] and I really can't imagine it being a dolphin issue [16:19] and a reinstall would be yet another hammer/nail scenario [16:19] Well if dolphin fails and another apps succeeds ? [16:19] I bet there will be a logical reason for it [16:20] Lemme check if this pc does the same then I can make printscreen [16:20] Gotta just wait for iso to finish [16:22] Shees cleaning cache take forever on these iso's hey Kilos [16:22] Yay finished. Gonna test that copy now [16:25] On this pc works fine , so it's specific to my pc at office [16:37] Hi kulelu88 , I got that dukto update working btw [16:37] nice mazal [16:38] Looks like Suse took over that project though [16:38] Dukto's sourforge page haven't had a new file since Feb 2015 [16:39] it's very useful software to share files across a network [16:40] Yeah me and my collegue loves that app [16:40] * mazal goes to check on data left [16:42] Wow I'm 12gig behind where I should be [16:42] And by behind I mean extra left [16:43] Hi deegee [16:43] ha the real deegee is here [16:43] hi davey [16:43] inetpro what happened your two handlangers [16:44] what internet you use and how fast? mazal [16:45] kulelu88, Telkom mobile and it's horrible. Most evenings it's unusable [16:46] The whole of last night I couldn't even open email [16:46] internet in SA is generally on the shit to extremely shit scale [16:46] Tonight is a bit better , average around 300k [16:47] Kilos, see that's what happen when you don't buy new games , you suddenly have data left lol [16:47] lol [16:48] Still saying nooooo to all the releases. Haning in strong [16:48] hanging* [16:48] * mazal puts in an iso download [16:50] Ag now that wasn't smart. How am I supposed to mc now with a download running [16:53] Kilos, I learned something lekker the last 2 days [16:53] Setting up a mc server :) Now I have new toy , but no space for it [17:00] lol [17:24] Evening [17:29] hi FusionSparc [17:30] You doing well, Kilos? [17:30] yes ty and you? [17:30] I am now, it's weekend.. :) [17:30] haha [17:32] im proud of you mazal [17:32] well done [17:59] hi nlsthzn [18:00] we 9°c tonight and 20°c tomorrow [18:00] brrr [18:39] Anyone in the channel to give some insight on mounting samba shares again.. [18:44] kulelu88 did you get the message about sasl [18:45] paddatrapper dis naweek, hoekom do still. jy skaam oor iets? [18:45] ohi superfly [18:45] I'm off, pleasent week everyone. [18:45] you too FusionSparc [18:45] Good evening. [18:45] you didnt wait for help man [18:46] yes I did [18:46] and it works now? [18:46] I guess I'll use what works for now [18:46] mine does [18:46] just change it man [18:46] hehe [18:47] Looks like eveyones a bit pre-occupied, will have a go at it again tomorrow,, [18:47] FusionSparc: try #samba [18:47] tomorrow is saterday [18:47] shopping day [18:47] lol...no one responding asw ell.. [18:47] probably.. [18:47] superfly is your car fixed [18:48] they just need waking up FusionSparc [18:48] No, it broke on Wednesday again. I took a look this evening and found one of the spark plug connectors had bust [18:48] hehe..probably... [18:48] bust how [18:49] A friend has lent us one of their cars for the weekend, so we can get around, thank the Lord, but I need to get my chorrie fixes ASAP. [18:49] those things are strong [18:49] eish my fly [18:49] Kilos: yes, but mine is aeons old [18:52] what car is it? superfly [18:53] kulelu88: '93 VW Jetta 3 [18:53] olllllddd school [18:54] best cars on the road [18:54] mine was a jetta 2 [18:54] now its most likely spares on 10 other cars [18:55] which format makes more sense to you guys... [18:55] format1: x [start-date]:[end-date] due:[due-date] +Project (Priority) Do something here @filter [18:55] or format2: +Project [start-date]:[end-date] due:[due-date] (Priority) Do something here @filter [18:56] 2 imo but wait for exoert opinion [18:56] expert [18:57] i'm thinking going with project first makes sense [18:57] so things can be viewed per project [18:57] I agree, second. You'll want to visually filter by project [18:57] I can drop the x cause I have end dates as well [18:58] jury is out for having a due-date [18:58] perhaps end-date == due-date [18:59] Maybe: +Project [start-date]:[due/end-date] (Priority) Do something here @filter [18:59] That format looks beautiful and readable [18:59] lol [19:00] looks like words in brackets to me [19:02] this is the end-product Kilos [19:03] oh so its done already [19:03] +todoapp 18-5-2016:19-5-2016 (A) Launch version 0.01 of todoapp @github [19:03] Can an oom like you understand that format also? Kilos [19:04] of course [19:04] not [19:04] im only a greeter bot [19:04] and go threatened by isis today [19:05] hehe [19:07] s/go/got [19:07] isis where? [19:07] pakistan [19:07] didnt even know they were there as well [19:08] one tried to chase me off their channel [19:08] he shoulda known ek skrik nie vir koue pap nie [19:09] what were you doing in a pakistan channel? [19:09] sup all :) [19:09] waking up their loco [19:09] hi nlsthzn [19:09] 23:00 and 32degC outside >.< [19:09] all ubuntu channels are my domain [19:10] swop nlsthzn [19:10] where you at? nls [19:10] nlsthzn: [19:10] UAE [19:10] ahab land [19:10] if I could swop I would :p [19:10] wow, that's warm. can chill on the stoep [19:10] and summer hasn't really started yet >.< [19:22] you should be used to it by now nlsthzn [19:22] young peeps adapt easier [19:23] I don't think one adapts to the extremes as much as live with it cause you don't have a choice :p [19:34] night all. sleep tight