geniiHappySomethingSo: I have to leave soon but am interested in how this issue ends. If you are on tomorrow, please give an update00:00
TJ-michagogo: did you configure lxc-usernet ?00:00
HappySomethingSogenii: ok, thank yo for your help00:00
michagogoTJ-: I'm running privileged for now00:01
michagogoI was under the impression that's not needed00:01
michagogo(created with the ubuntu template as root, not download, and sudoing lxc-start)00:01
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TJ-michagogo: OK, you've set the veth and bridge in the config?00:02
michagogoEr, maybe not? Which config, the container's?00:02
michagogoI thought the default on Ubuntu just works... There does seem to be a veth device00:03
TJ-michagogo: see https://help.ubuntu.com/lts/serverguide/lxc.html#lxc-network00:03
michagogoI think I tried reading that. I don't know that I understand it fully...00:04
michagogoRight now, I don't want it to be accessible from the outside -- I want to be able, as a start, to SSH from the host into the container00:05
JubilantWhy does fresh install never set my prefix and root correctly :/00:06
Jubilantdat grub rescue life I always forget which partition to use and it takes forever to find it again00:06
melodoronI just upgraded to Xenial, and apt-get update is broken00:11
melodoronIt gets to "Fetched 187 kB in 5s (31.2 kB/s)" and then never finishes00:11
melodoronIs there a way to debug this?00:11
DarthShader2melodoron - apparently apt is broken right now (for me as well).00:13
DarthShader2relevant logs: "<CodFection> whenever I run apt-get update it stucks"00:14
DarthShader2"<HappySomethingSo> \join #ubuntu-server"00:14
hrkljusappstreamcli 100% CPU usage right?00:14
michagogoHm. Why does the container know who I am?00:17
michagogoI ran sudoedit, it put me in vi00:17
squintymelodoron, hmmm....must be a new buglet. it was working fine yesterday.....00:17
michagogoNow, when I exit, it says "E138: Can't write viminfo file /home/micha/.viminfo!"00:17
squintymichagogo,  gksudo gedit <filename>00:18
* [Saint] wonders how other people, if at all, work around the whole "encrypted home and key based ssh authentication with password disabled" thing00:18
michagogosquinty: Huh? *inside* an LXC?00:18
TJ-michagogo: the sudo shell environment00:18
[Saint]I'm using a fairly simply script in my unencrypted ~ in .sshrc00:19
michagogoTJ-: right now I'm in `sudo lxc-attach`00:19
[Saint]is there a better way to manage automatically decrypting home with ssh key based login?00:19
TJ-[Saint]: easily :)00:19
squintymichagogo, didn't realize you were using lxc00:19
michagogosquinty: Yeah, I'm trying to figure out sshing into a fresh lxc...00:19
[Saint]TJ-: let me guess "don't use encrypted ~"? ;)00:20
TJ-[Saint]: /etc/ssh/sshd_config has "AuthorizedKeysFile      /etc/ssh/authorized_keys.d/%u" ... and you create the directory and then put the file at /etc/ssh/authorized_keys.d/$USER00:21
[Saint]TJ-: I think you're misunderstanding the problem.00:21
[Saint]If I wasn't doing that I wouldn't even be able to initiate the connection.00:21
[Saint]What I aim to do is decrypt ~ automatically.00:22
[Saint]which for some inexplicable reason doesn't happen for ssh key based login with password disabled.00:22
TJ-[Saint]: that's how it's done. As long as the authorized_keys is *outside* the $HOME then when the user does key-based log-in the pam_ecryptfs  module will unlock and mount the $USERs ecryptfs00:23
TJ-[Saint]: all my systems have been configured that way for many years, without any problems00:23
michagogoWhen I look at the container with lxc-info/lxc-ls, I see it appears to have 2 IP addresses, and
michagogoWhen I lxc-attach to the container, both of those addresses seem to point to the container00:24
[Saint]TJ-: on my servers it doesn't actually decrypt and this needs to be handled by the user - I suspect you're using *buntu Desktop, yes?00:24
michagogoOn the host, .1 points to the host, and .196 says "no route to host".00:24
TJ-[Saint]: server00:25
TJ-[Saint]: decryption and mounting is done by pam_ecryptfs once the user has authenticated00:25
TJ-[Saint]: have you altered the PAM config?00:25
TJ-[Saint]: amongst other entries the important one is "/etc/pam.d/common-auth:auth     optional        pam_ecryptfs.so unwrap"00:26
michagogoAnyone got any ideas?00:26
naccmichagogo: what version of host?00:33
[Saint]TJ-: Appears to be https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/ecryptfs-utils/+bug/36401500:33
ubottuLaunchpad bug 364015 in ecryptfs-utils (Ubuntu) "Support a wrapped-passphrase.ssh, wrapped with an ssh private key" [Wishlist,Won't fix]00:33
[Saint]marked as WONTFIX00:33
michagogonacc: trusty00:33
naccmichagogo: also, #lxcontainers may be a better place to ask00:33
naccmichagogo: on xenial, with a random container, i don't see that with `lxc list`00:33
michagogonacc: In the past (and now) I've tried a bunch of times, that channel seems mostly inactive00:34
naccmichagogo: are you using lxd?00:34
michagogoWhat's lxd?00:34
naccmichagogo: ah not available in trusty anyways00:35
naccmichagogo: well, it's like a container hypervisor. But basically lets you do `lxc launch ubuntu:xenial` and it spits out a container name running xenial00:35
naccand you can then just do `lxc exec <container> bash` and you're in00:36
naccno need for sudo, etc00:36
naccthe images are maintained on linuxcontainers.org, iirc, and cached locally00:36
naccmichagogo: might be a reason to setup a xenial environment on its own, if you're really interested in containers00:36
michagogoWell, not sure that's an option...00:36
michagogoAt this point I'm trying to figure out if there's a way to get https://github.com/devrandom/gitian-builder/blob/master/README.md to work with LXC in what seems to me to be the "correct" way00:37
naccmichagogo: there's also #lxc-dev, but you might get mocked for asking for support in a dev channel (but then again you coudl say no response in the support channel)00:37
michagogoThat is, treating the container like a VM -- starting, stopping, SSHing in, etc00:37
naccmichagogo: right, lxd is a backend for lxc, basically00:38
naccso if lxd is running, you use lxc as client side interction still00:38
naccbut in any case00:38
michagogo(right now, the LXC support there basically hacks together a rootfs that can sort of pass for an LXC, but breaks fairly often, and seems to be broken on xenial)00:38
[Saint]So, instead of my convoluted workaround with sshrc, would doing something like this in the unencrypted user's .bash_login be "better"?00:39
naccmichagogo: sounds like a support question for this project, no?00:39
naccmichagogo: that projects home page can't be reached by me, i'll assume something buggy.00:40
michagogonacc: well, there isn't really much support. It's pretty small. My idea was to see if I can figure out how to take the flow used for KVM builders and adapt that for "LXC-as-a-VM"00:40
michagogoSo at this point I'm just trying to figure out how LXC works00:40
nacci think it's a bad idea to even think of LXC as a VM :)00:40
michagogonacc: I don't mean as a VM00:40
michagogoI mean, working with it like you would with a VM00:40
michagogoi.e. creating it with the proper tools, starting and stopping it, and connecting into it, rather than debootstrapping into a file and tricking lxc-execute into running scripts in that environment00:41
michagogoBut I can't seem to get as far as being able to create a container, start it, and SSH into it...00:42
naccmichagogo: i unfortunately don't have a trusty environment around right now00:42
michagogoAnyway, it's 3:42 AM here. I think I'm going to call it a night, probably just throw away what I've tried at this point and maybe try again from scratch in my clean Trusty Sandbox VM at some point in the future00:43
naccmichagogo: what have you tried to do, sorry?00:43
michagogonacc: I lxc-created a container00:43
michagogoI lxc-started it00:43
michagogoAnd I can;t figure out what I need to do in order to be able to ssh into it from the host00:44
naccmichagogo: did you try: https://linuxcontainers.org/lxc/getting-started/00:44
michagogonacc: yeah, I saw that00:44
naccmichagogo: that's where i'd start, in particular the bridge setup00:45
michagogoI created a privileged container with the ubuntu template (not download)00:45
naccmichagogo: a container shouldn't have two IPs generally, and it definitely shouldn't have one be a gateway IP00:45
naccat least, i'd find that surprising00:45
michagogonacc: the only thing I see on that page regarding bridge setup is the file that lets a user account create veth devices00:46
naccmichagogo: if you want to try to get it working again later, ping me and i will spin up a trusty VM00:46
naccmichagogo: from a general ease-of-use thing, though, i'd really recommend trying lxd00:47
[Saint]TJ-: I have to ask - but, you're not just saying "it works" after having already unwrapped the encrypted home at some point with a local login, are you? I honestly can't see any way for this flow of ssh+encrypted home+key based auth+password login disabled to work with an encrypted home and every bug I can dig up on the topic basically writes it off as wontfix.00:47
naccmichagogo: what "packages" is gitian-builder referring to?00:47
edgardoanayaHow Can I Make Music Play in My Laptop?00:48
edgardoanayaHow Can I Make Music Play in My Laptop?00:48
edgardoanayaIm New To Linux00:49
naccedgardoanaya: do you mean the software to use for music in Ubuntu? or do you mean you don't get any soudn?00:49
[Saint]why didn't "in" deserve a capital letter? and why are you typing in camel case?00:49
bazhang!players | edgardoanaya00:49
ubottuedgardoanaya: Audio (Ogg, MP3...) players: Audacious, Banshee, Listen, Quod Libet, Rhythmbox, Exaile, XMMS2 (GTK/Gnome based) and Amarok, JuK (Qt/KDE based).  Video players: Totem, Xine, MPlayer, VLC, Kaffeine - See also !codecs00:49
edgardoanayaRight No Sound00:49
nacc!sound | edgardoanaya00:49
ubottuedgardoanaya: If you're having problems with sound, click the Volume applet, then Sound Preferences, and check your Volume, Hardware, Input, and Output settings.  If that fails, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Sound - https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SoundTroubleshooting - http://alsa.opensrc.org/DmixPlugin - For playing audio files,  see !players and !mp3.00:49
bazhang!info ubuntu-restricted-extras | edgardoanaya00:50
ubottuedgardoanaya: ubuntu-restricted-extras (source: ubuntu-restricted-extras): Commonly used media codecs and fonts for Ubuntu. In component multiverse, is optional. Version 65 (xenial), package size 3 kB, installed size 14 kB00:50
bazhanginstall that edgardoanaya00:50
bazhangsee the sound troubleshooting above edgardoanaya and the players link as well00:50
edgardoanayaWell I tried all The Simple Solutions But None Worked!!!!00:51
michagogonacc: Gitian is used to build Bitcoin Core, among other things00:52
michagogoI'm pretty sure The Tor Project also uses it for their builds00:52
[Saint]edgardoanaya: can you please type properly, without every word having a capital letter? It is driving my text-to-speech nuts.00:52
naccmichagogo: i see; well, i can help you probably get lxc working, like i said, just give me some notice to get a vm spun up00:53
bazhangedgardoanaya, did you install the restricted extras as above00:53
bazhangedgardoanaya, which players have you tried00:53
michagogoOkay, I'm not sure when I'll get around to it... I don't often have free time for things like this00:54
edgardoanayaok So How Can I Listen to My Sound?00:54
michagogoIf I remember, I'll try pinging you when I'm going to try again00:54
naccmichagogo: sounds good00:54
zumba_addict_other than squid, which forwarding proxy would you recommend?00:56
bazhangedgardoanaya, I have asked you several questions, please respond with more info instead of just repeating00:57
JanCanybody else having trouble with apt-get update: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/appstream/+bug/1583845 ?00:59
ubottuLaunchpad bug 1579712 in appstream (Ubuntu Xenial) "duplicate for #1583845 Refresh hangs due to strdup on non-NULL terminated string" [Medium,Fix committed]00:59
edgardoanayaI want to thank All Here On this Channel For UR Support01:01
hid|ninjai wanted to record from my laptop sound card with this command01:06
hid|ninjaffmpeg -f pulse -i alsa_output.pci-0000_00_1b.0.analog-stereo.monitor output.wav01:06
hid|ninjait alays worked with ubuntu 14.04, but not with 16.0401:07
hid|ninjai found the audio source name with `pactl list sources`01:07
hid|ninjapls help01:07
DlabzHi, guys. Update of a remote server from 15.04 to 15.10 got interupted (ctrl+c). What's my best course of action? thanks.01:08
precisehid|ninja, does it ouput an error, exit code, etc? We need more information...01:09
hid|ninjaprecise: no error, the wav file sounds like it was recorded from my intern microphone01:10
preciseso just to clarify: internal mic =/= sound card in your scenario?01:11
hid|ninjafor me, internal mic is the one next to the laptop webcam01:12
preciseOk, got ya.01:13
hid|ninjaso i took the sound card output: alsa_output.pci-0000_00_1b.0.analog-stereo.monitor01:14
preciseOn the ffmpeg man page, checkout line 1283, specifically:01:18
precise               ffmpeg -f alsa -ac 1 -i hw:1 -f video4linux2 -i /dev/video0 /tmp/out.mpg01:18
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preciseperhaps force the alsa format with the -f flag instead of the pulse format? Forgive me, I don't have much experience with FFMPEG.01:22
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forgot_my_namedo chinese eat butter?01:24
hid|ninjaprecise: i have this error: [alsa @ 0xedb4a0] cannot open audio device hw:1 (No such file or directory)01:25
preciseBecause hw:1 was just an example...01:26
preciseSomething like this:01:26
hid|ninjait's like hee https://trac.ffmpeg.org/wiki/Capture/ALSA#Selectingtheinputcard, but i really dont get01:26
forgot_my_namehid|ninja, youre trying audio capture?01:27
hid|ninjayes forgot_my_name01:27
preciseCan you pastebin the output of arecord -l? hid|ninja01:27
forgot_my_namehid|ninja, errr. as far as I know, ALSA is good for playback, while pulse is for recording01:28
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preciseforgot_my_name: you are probably right, I know next to nothing about Audio Engineering, etc. I'm just a linux guy who happened to be in the room :P01:29
k00l3th4nIs anybody else having problems updating today?01:30
hid|ninjahere is the paste: http://pastebin.com/0TSZN9f501:30
precisek00l3th4n, yeah. It is an error with appstream, it is currently in the proposed repository and will be pushed out to xenial at a later date, in order to get around this issue, uninstall appstream "sudo apt remove appstream", reinstall when the update is pushed out.01:31
Bashing-omk00l3th4n: xenial ? this  https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/appstream/+bug/1583845 ?01:32
ubottuLaunchpad bug 1579712 in appstream (Ubuntu Xenial) "duplicate for #1583845 Refresh hangs due to strdup on non-NULL terminated string" [Medium,Fix committed]01:32
bumblehead`$ sudo apt-get update` hangs on my machine. would someone advise me to help resolve it?01:32
precisehid|ninja, you said you have a soundcard and a built in microphone?01:32
Eagles13Has anyone here got an experience with mdadm?01:32
precisebumblehead:  https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/appstream/+bug/158384501:32
k00l3th4nprecise: Thanks so much. I thought my machine was going down. lol01:32
Eagles13I'm having a very similar issue to over here: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1223457 with my /dev/md0 disappearing after rebooting.01:33
preciseNo problem, we were all having the issue earlier :P01:33
hid|ninjayes precise01:33
hid|ninjanothing else is plugged01:33
preciseShouldn't there be more than one device if you have multiple recording devices?01:33
bumbleheadprecise: thanks this looks like the same issue I am having01:34
bumbleheadworkaround is to remove the appstream package01:34
k00l3th4nI figured it had something to do with that package being it was eating half my CPU and stalling.01:34
rafaelolá. Boa noite01:34
precisebumblehead, yeah it is a 3 year old bug that for some reason just reared /its ugly face today.01:34
forgot_my_namehid|ninja, so youre trying to capture analog to digital01:34
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Guest30905Speak portuguese?01:35
ubottuPor favor, use #ubuntu-br para ajuda em português. Para entrar no canal por favor faça "/join #ubuntu-br" sem as aspas. Para a comunidade local portuguêsa, use #ubuntu-pt. Obrigada.01:35
preciseThanks ubottu01:35
bumbleheadprecise: is it safe to `$ sudo apt-get remove appstream`?01:35
precisebumblehead: yes, it is not required by aptitude01:36
preciseI am typing this from a machine that has no appstream01:36
OerHeksbumblehead, that is safe, as appstream is optional01:36
k00l3th4nWorked like magic on my rig.01:36
hid|ninjaprecise: i have all listed here: http://pastebin.com/QD972sKx01:36
hid|ninjaforgot_my_name: analog to digital? idk01:37
bumbleheadprecise: thank you01:37
bumbleheadDerHeks: thank you01:37
precisenp bumblehead01:37
hid|ninjajust trying to record the all sounds coming from the sound card01:37
bumbleheadrebooting to be sure everything is good...01:37
forgot_my_namehid|ninja, ok01:37
precisehid|ninja: try this: ffmpeg -f pulse -i hw:0  output.wav01:38
forgot_my_namei think that will do....01:39
bumbleheadeverything is good now I was able to update01:39
bumbleheadthanks for the help :)01:39
forgot_my_nameim corssing my fingers01:39
preciseAre the broken yet?01:39
OerHekshave fun bumblehead01:39
bumbleheadjust one more question --when will unity 8 be finished01:40
hid|ninjaprecise: it says: hw:0: No such process01:40
forgot_my_namethatshould be a dev not a process01:41
hid|ninjayes, process01:42
forgot_my_namei think hw:0 is the odd...  - there should be another way to express that01:43
preciseforgot_my_name: https://trac.ffmpeg.org/wiki/Capture/ALSA#Selectingtheinputcard01:43
preciseninja posted that earlier...01:43
preciseffmpeg -f alsa -i hw:0 output.wav01:44
hid|ninjadid you see the pactl command?01:44
hid|ninjait says: Source #0 State: SUSPENDED01:45
somsip!who | hid|ninja01:45
ubottuhid|ninja: As you can see, this is a large channel. If you're speaking to someone in particular, please put their nickname in what you say (use !tab), or else messages get lost and it becomes confusing :)01:45
hid|ninjaprecise: and forgot_my_name01:45
hid|ninjamy bad01:45
precisehid|ninja: check the pactl man page under the suspend-source option.01:46
preciseIt takes args SOURCE and a 1 or 001:46
preciseSomething like:01:47
precisepactl suspend-source [YOUR MIC] 001:47
preciseYOU MIC can be defined (according to the man page) by its symbolic name or numeric index, which you can find in your pactl pastebin01:48
lucas-arggot another problem with 16.04 or some reason my top menu bar fonts look thinner than normal fonts01:48
hid|ninjayou mean in "Name"?01:48
preciseSomething like this:01:49
precisepactl suspend-source alsa_output.pci-0000_00_1b.0.analog-stereo.monitor 001:49
hid|ninjaah ok01:49
preciseThat 'should' resume that source.01:49
preciseRun the pactl list again to verify01:50
hid|ninjahmmmm, it says: Failure: Invalid argument01:51
Blakes5Hello, I've got a Samsung 64GB SD card. I wrote an image file to it using Disk Image Writer, IIRC, but now the SD card only reports as 7.4GB. Gparted only reports it as 7.4GB. I've used other various utilities in Windows and they only report it as 7.4GB. How do I reclaim the rest of the space?01:56
destinydrivenI just tried to run software updater and it just hangs . .  . upwards of 30 minutes01:56
preciseSorry, hid|ninja, I'm out of ideas. Hopefully you can figure it out, maybe drop by tommorrow when more people are on (midday)?01:57
Blakes5destinydriven, try apt-get update instead.01:57
destinydrivenBlakes5, tried that  . . it hangs there too01:57
precisedestinydriven: There is a bug in appstream01:57
hid|ninjayes thanks precise01:57
hid|ninjai'll come later :>01:57
precisenp hid|ninja01:57
destinydrivenprecise, oh that's a bug?01:57
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forgot_my_nameBlakes5, I heard that there are some rogue cards around01:58
precisedestinydriven: Ithttps://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/appstream/0.9.4-1ubuntu101:58
Blakes5forgot_my_name, this is a known working card. It was reporting 64GB before I imaged it.01:58
preciseThe patch is currently in the propsed repo, to be pushed out soon01:58
destinydrivenso no workaround?01:59
preciseWork around is to uninstall appstream01:59
precisesudo apt remove appstream01:59
destinydrivenapt-get update isn't working for me01:59
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precisethen reinstall appstream when they send out the fix01:59
destinydrivenpretending I know why I need appstream . .. .01:59
destinydrivenok cool01:59
preciseappstream is optional, so really you don't even need it02:00
destinydrivenok great02:00
destinydrivenlet me reboot and do that02:00
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destinydrivenprecise, that sorted it out, thanks02:02
precisenop destinydriven02:02
destinydrivenok so . . .  ubuntu center == apstream? cuz that just disappeared on me02:04
Blakes5I think I remember now, I used DD to write an image to the SD card. Any idea how to recover the missing space?02:04
Huliohi , how to unzip in ubuntu via command for   somezip_1of2.zip  and somezip_2of2.zip ?02:05
Hulioi have 2 zip file02:05
reisioHulio: unzip -l foo02:05
reisiounzip foo.zip02:05
reisiounzip -d newdir foo.zip02:05
Huliothe first file ?02:05
reisioHulio: if it's split into volumes, the first should suffice02:05
forgot_my_nameblake5: heheheheheh..... DD may be a bitch if you dont treat her with attention02:05
reisiorarely it is the last instead of the first02:05
reisioand some archive formats are smart enough to know regardless which volume you point at02:06
Huliolet me try02:06
reisioHulio: although if it's a ZIP, it might just be two entirely separate archives02:06
Blakes5forgot_my_name, well, it worked. I think it just didn't worry about the rest of the space.02:06
reisioas ZIP is a popular format among the ignorant :D02:06
precisedestinydriven: yeah, not permanent though, just reinstall appstream when they push the patch out.02:06
Blakes5forgot_my_name, if I had a 64GB image of something I guess I could use DD to write it to the SD card but I don't know where I would get something like that or how to create it.02:06
destinydrivenprecise, ok I see02:07
forgot_my_nameblake5 and you want to get the space back in a "non destructive" way?02:07
Blakes5forgot_my_name, oh, I don't care what's on the card. I'm trying to repurpose it02:07
forgot_my_nameBlakes5, what about gparted?02:08
Blakes5I actually have another 64GB card in my phone that is partitioned for 64GB. I guess I could clone that with DD.02:08
Blakes5forgot_my_name, gparted only sees 7.4gb02:08
DatzHi, I'm having trouble network troubles with my install of 16.04. I can't install packages, and I can't ping outside servers. I'm currently logged in remotely though. I think there is some sort of DNS trouble. Any ideas?02:08
El_ChapoIs anyone else having trouble installing Ubuntu 16.04 due to appstream issues?02:09
forgot_my_nameBlakes5, weird02:09
Hulioreisio, man, unzip -l file.zip is only listing02:10
Hulioi need to extra brother02:10
preciseEl_Chapo, yes. Appstream is not required and you can uninstall as a work around if you'd like.02:10
El_ChapoDatz, I think you might be having the same issue as me. It's not DNS it's something to do with appstreamcli02:10
forgot_my_namedamn...gotta go02:11
Datzhumm, I see02:11
preciseThe patch is in the proposed repository, and planned to be rolled out into stable eventually.02:11
DatzThis is what I'm getting trying to install a package : http://hastebin.com/iwozasesig.vhdl02:11
reisioHulio: it's important to do -l first to make sure it won't dump contents all over your cwd02:11
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Hulioreisio, nevermind, i was able to double click the file02:12
Hulioand drag outside the folder :)02:12
Hulioi use GUI02:12
preciseDatz: I can ping the mirrors, it is probably on your end.02:12
preciseCan you traceroute to 'us.archive.ubuntu.com'?02:12
Datzprecise: yes, I can't even ping google.com02:12
Datzbut I can ping IP addresses02:13
preciseDatz: That is most likely DNS.02:13
Ali1my apt is not working02:13
Ali1its stuck02:13
Ali1any ideas?02:13
preciseAli1: Known bug, to be patched shortly.02:14
preciseAli1: https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/appstream/0.9.4-1ubuntu102:14
preciseUninstalling appstream is a workaround, but you will lose your software center02:14
preciseDatz, can you pastbin the output of:02:14
precisecat /etc/resolv.conf02:15
Bashing-omAli1: See: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=2325168&page=2 . There are other work-a-rounds .02:15
preciseBashing-om: Isn't that the same workaround?02:16
Ali1Bashing-om, so should I wait for them to fix ?02:16
Datzprecise: Getting help in -server let you know if I get it working. Thanks.02:17
Bashing-omprecise: Yes and no " sudo pkill appstreamcli " in another terminal .02:17
preciseNP Datz02:18
Ali1precise, should I wait02:18
precisePatience Ali102:18
Bashing-omAli1: Depends on the need , You can bet the fix will be in place rather quickly .02:18
preciseBashing-om, doesn't that just end the process?02:18
Blakes5well DD is working on the SD card....we'll see.....02:19
El_ChapoWhat's quick? Hours, Day ,Week?02:19
preciseEl_Chapo, for a patch?02:19
Bashing-omprecise: Yes ,, the " sudo apt remove appstream " seems to be the more popular .02:20
Ali1Bashing-om, actually I am trying install fresh ubuntu02:20
Ali1and its stuck here02:21
preciseBashing-om: I'm not saying your wrong, but everytime someone comes in here, I say "sudo apt remove appstream" I just want to be sure I am giving the proper advice that's all.02:21
preciseAli1: Are you installing ubuntu currently or is this just recently installed?02:21
Ali1currently installing02:22
Ali1removed ubuntu due to apt update stuck problem02:22
Ali1but turns out its stuck in installing fresh aswel02:22
Bashing-omprecise: You do good . If there were a problem .. many here watch and will be quick to correct .. Ya gotta love this channel .02:22
preciseAli1: You re-installed because you couldn't apt update/upgrade?02:23
preciseBashing-om: Oh good :)02:23
Ali1yea precise02:23
Ali1now how to make it install02:23
Ali1Its stuck02:23
Ali1in retrieving file step02:23
preciseRestart install without an internet connection, uninstall appstream on first boot.02:24
Ali1but dont u think updates are essential during installation?02:24
Bashing-omAli1: see The Cogs' solution : http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=2325168&page=2 .02:25
Ali1or I can get the same updates after installation?02:25
preciseAli1: Yes, but by reinstalling while the appstream bug is active, your install will hang permanently02:25
preciseYou can get updates after install02:25
Ali1precise, it will be same as I could with internet connection right?02:25
Ali1or I will miss out something?02:25
DouglasKWhere do I find the HowTo to let one's KUbuntu install listen for incoming remoteX connections from localhost? Ideally I'd like to listen only on localhost as it's always from an SSH tunnel (eg: ssh -x <host>, then xeyes) (xposted to #kubuntu, but it's quiet in there currently)02:26
preciseAli1: You can connect to the internet after install and run apt update/upgrade to get what you missed out.02:26
Ali1oh ok02:26
Ali1so nothing is missed then right02:26
preciseBashing-om: He is actually in the middle of installing ubuntu.02:26
Ali1thanks :)02:26
Ali1coz I dont wanna re install again after the bug is fixed02:26
Ali1to get what I missed out during installation due to internet connection02:27
preciseBashing-om: The appstream bug causes the apt update to hang, even during first install.02:27
preciseAli1: You generally don't have to reinstall Ubuntu too much, just make sure to research the problem and drop by here.02:28
preciseAli1: It takes quite a bit to bork the OS02:28
Bashing-omprecise: Yes .. on a fresh install is where that bug 1st reard it's head . " So then I tried to install without downloading updates as it went. The install worked, but a post-install apt-get update hung, again with appstreamcli stuck at 100% CPU." .02:28
ubottubug 1 in Ubuntu Malaysia LoCo Team "Microsoft has a majority market share" [Critical,In progress] https://launchpad.net/bugs/102:28
preciseWell, I got to work, I'll see you all later...02:30
Ali1precise, so02:30
Ali1after installation02:30
Bashing-omprecise: Take care .. come back in good shape .02:30
Ali1I need to run apt-get remove ?02:31
DouglasK Or, failing that, how do I setup kubuntu to listen for X11 connections?  I can futz with iptables after.02:32
JMichaelXanyone else experiencing problems with the proprietary Nvidia drivers in 16.04?02:34
JMichaelXall desktop effects (in Kubuntu) have ceased working for me02:35
d3ad7rackhi all02:36
DouglasKDoes anyone here do remoteX with 16.04?02:38
d3ad7racknot sure what the heck happened to my machine since it's been powered down, but for some reason it's not updating now.... I run sudo apt-get update and it seems to pull down the updates, but then it prints out the last line saying it fetched 'x' bytes in 'x' seconds and seems like it freezes02:38
d3ad7rackusing 16.0402:38
OerHeksd3ad7rack, you suffer this bug, lots of heat now: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/appstream/+bug/157971202:39
ubottuLaunchpad bug 1579712 in appstream (Ubuntu Xenial) "Refresh hangs due to strdup on non-NULL terminated string" [High,Fix committed]02:39
d3ad7rackahhh, ty OerHeks, glad to see I'm not the only one :(02:39
Datzprecise: ended up adding a nameserver (google) to resolve.conf02:39
OerHeksremove that appstream and you can update again ( it is optional, not critical)02:39
Datzprecise: it could be a local network problem for me too apparently.02:40
DatzFYI, but thanks for your help/interest.02:40
d3ad7rackOerHeks: gotcha, ty very much :)02:40
d3ad7rackubottu: ty :)02:40
Huliowhat is 'sudo alien ?02:40
OerHeksd3ad7rack, please read the whole post, there is a fix in it by dl & install the patched\02:41
OerHeksbut i would remove it all.02:41
goddardi can't update it hangs at "Fetched 281 kB in 1s (163 kB/s)   "02:41
goddardthat is with sudo apt update02:41
DouglasKHulio,Alien is a tool to translate between RPM and DEB, iirc.02:41
squintyHulio,  apt show alien02:41
OerHeksgoddard, see my answer to d3ad7rack02:41
goddardOerHeks: i think i missed it02:42
OerHeksoh, you just joined02:42
ubottuLaunchpad bug 1579712 in appstream (Ubuntu Xenial) "Refresh hangs due to strdup on non-NULL terminated string" [High,Fix committed]02:42
rohani did an apt-get update and "appstreamcli" is pegging my cpu to close-100%02:43
rohanknown issue? any fixes?02:43
El_Chapotry now02:43
El_ChapoI think they just fixed it02:43
rohannope, still the same02:44
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squintyrohan, https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/appstream/+bug/157971202:44
ubottuLaunchpad bug 1579712 in appstream (Ubuntu Xenial) "Refresh hangs due to strdup on non-NULL terminated string" [High,Fix committed]02:44
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OerHeksEl_Chapo, don't think, as it won't be fixed by itself.02:44
rohansquinty: catching up on it02:44
rohanso installing the new appstream package should fix this issue?02:45
OerHeksthat is one solution, rohan02:45
squintyrohan, yes02:45
rohanOerHeks: what's the other one? :)02:46
rohani was about to follow https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/appstream/+bug/1579712/comments/2402:46
ubottuLaunchpad bug 1579712 in appstream (Ubuntu Xenial) "Refresh hangs due to strdup on non-NULL terminated string" [High,Fix committed]02:46
squintyrohan,  or you can temp remove appstream (it will also take out the software center but can be reinstalled after fix comes through)02:46
OerHeksremoval of appstream.02:46
rohanah ok02:47
rohanguess i'll just dogfood the -proposed package then :)02:47
squintyrohan, fwiw, I elected to remove earlier today...apt started working again02:47
squintygoddard,  sudo apt remove appstream02:48
El_ChapoOerHeks, oops I was looking at the other ticket02:48
rohanpretty nasty thing to happen to an LTS :(02:48
rohanbut following instructions in c24 fixed the issue02:49
ptrzhas anyone else come here complaining about apt-get update hanging with 100% CPU on the development release?02:49
ptrzthe process in question is appstreamcli02:49
ubottuLaunchpad bug 1579712 in appstream (Ubuntu Xenial) "Refresh hangs due to strdup on non-NULL terminated string" [High,Fix committed]02:49
d3ad7rackOerHeks: ty again, very very much, can't say how much I appreciate it02:49
OerHeksptrz, lots of heat on this bug https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/appstream/+bug/157971202:49
El_Chapois they a functional test suite etc for Ubuntu? Maybe it needs one?02:49
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El_Chapoor acceptance test I mean02:50
squintyEl_Chapo,  probably better asked in #ubuntu-discuss02:51
HulioI think linux is more complicated then windows02:51
Huliopeople who know linux are more likely geek02:51
ptrzEl_Chapo: it's hard to test drivers without actually having the device02:52
squintyHulio, #ubuntu-offtopic02:52
ptrzand driver code is an increasingly large proportion of Linux02:52
serezokay boss02:52
El_Chapoprtz, virtual environments? It would catch certain errors like the installer not working.02:53
ptrzEl_Chapo: you can't easily virtualize a physical device02:54
HulioCan ubuntu be infected with virus?02:54
ptrzand you often almost formally can't, because no one knows precisely how the device works02:54
Hulioif i browse web (example porno) will i get infected with virus?02:55
ptrz(i.e. no reliable or complete documentation available, or well-known and widespread hardware bugs)02:55
HulioI know windows system easily get virus02:55
Hulioplease advise02:55
ptrzHulio: this is probably not the place to ask02:55
Huliowhere can i ask?02:55
steven__Hulio: Short answer, yes.02:56
El_Chapoptrz, I mean more simple acceptance testing for releases, so scripts that will automatically install the release candidate and verify the nothing hangs during install. To catch errors that may not be device specific.02:58
Bashing-om!virus | Hulio02:59
ubottuHulio: Antivirus is something you don't need on !Linux, except where files are then passed to Windows computers (perhaps using Samba). See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Antivirus02:59
Huliohow to tell my full path of JDK ?03:01
Hulioin the example  ...someone have version 7 like this :  /usr/lib/jvm/java-7-oracle03:01
Huliobut i have installed version 8, so how to find the full path?03:02
somsipHulio: java -version (or ll/usr/lib/jvm for the path)03:03
Hulioany of u know the username and password for oracle XE ?03:12
HulioI install the oracle express in ubunu 16.04  ...but i have no clue what is the username03:12
reisioHulio: never wasted time with oracle myself, but it's typical for the default user to be 'root' and the password to be unset03:13
Ali1reisio, how did u fix apt lag bug03:15
Hulioreisio, actually SYSTEM03:15
Ali1I cant figure out03:15
Bashing-omAli1: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/appstream/+bug/1579712 ? see #30 .03:19
ubottuLaunchpad bug 1579712 in appstream (Ubuntu Xenial) "Refresh hangs due to strdup on non-NULL terminated string" [High,Fix committed]03:19
Ali1LTS version has bugs like that..03:24
Huliohi, i have this file in a folder  how to make a link     on desktop so i can double click it03:31
Huliosqldeveloper.sh    <---- i need to run this03:31
Huliocurrent i do it in terminal with   'sudo ./sqldeveloper.sh03:31
Huliois there a way to make a file shortcut so i can just double click it?03:31
x3mboyWhy you need to run SQL Developer as root?03:32
Huliobecause without put sudo it wont start03:33
x3mboyA .sh file if has x permission for user can be launched with double click, but i think you want to do is a .desktop file03:33
Hulioshow me man03:33
Huliothis is what i want to do :   sqldeveloper.sh03:33
x3mboyI think you should use beesu, not sudo (because is a graphical tool)03:34
SQLx3mboy: what did you need me to do?03:34
Huliocurrently in /opt/sqldeveloper/sqldeveloper.sh03:34
Huliocurrently the only way to run it by doing this in terminal:   'sudo /opt/sqldeveloper/sqldeveloper.sh'03:35
Hulioi want to do something on desktop shortcut , all i have to do is double click03:35
x3mboyHulio, https://wiki.archlinux.org/index.php/Desktop_entries03:35
Huliojust like window shurtcut03:35
Huliocan't anyone just give me the answer?03:35
x3mboyHulio, https://wiki.archlinux.org/index.php/Desktop_entries03:36
Huliostill i dont understand what to do in the link03:36
DouglasKThere.  removed the nolisten from /etc/X11/xinit/xsessionrc, created a ufw rule to allow connections to remotex on lo, but to block them on all other interfaces.03:36
vortex_i just freshly installed ubuntu 16.04 and im trying to update it with apt-get update but it is just hanging03:37
vortex_Hit:1 http://us.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu xenial InRelease03:37
vortex_Get:2 http://us.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu xenial-updates InRelease [94.5 kB]03:37
vortex_Get:3 http://us.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu xenial-backports InRelease [92.2 kB]03:37
vortex_Get:4 http://security.ubuntu.com/ubuntu xenial-security InRelease [94.5 kB]03:37
vortex_Fetched 281 kB in 1s (254 kB/s)03:37
Bashing-omvortex_: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/appstream/+bug/1579712 ,03:38
x3mboyYou are probably the faster reader i ever see03:38
ubottuLaunchpad bug 1579712 in appstream (Ubuntu Xenial) "Refresh hangs due to strdup on non-NULL terminated string" [High,Fix committed]03:38
Encxapsulationis linux really obsolete?03:47
codfectionguys I have apt bug03:49
codfectionanyone got?03:49
energizerI just installed a Unity Dash scope called recoll. I don't think it's the dash is using it though. When I install a new dash scope, do I need to do something to enable it?03:57
Mauved_Speak spanish?04:01
Mauved_And are you from?04:01
Bashing-om!es | Mauved_04:01
ubottuMauved_: En la mayoría de los canales de Ubuntu, se habla sólo en inglés. Si busca ayuda en español entre al canal #ubuntu-es; escriba " /join #ubuntu-es " (sin comillas) y presione intro.04:01
ausjkewhat's wrong with appstream tonight?04:34
ausjkeI had to kill -9 it and apt-remove-it?04:34
ausjkeotherwise cpu is 100% and no way to run apt, can't believe this04:34
Bashing-omauditlog_: Yep ! https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/appstream/+bug/1579712 .04:34
ubottuLaunchpad bug 1579712 in appstream (Ubuntu Xenial) "Refresh hangs indefinitely, appstreamcli using 100% CPU" [High,Fix committed]04:34
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callaw_86hi everyone04:44
callaw_86i'm new here...04:46
callaw_86how it works?04:46
Ben64ask an ubuntu support question, wait for an answer04:46
somsipcallaw_86: you ask support question, people might help you. You want to chat, tye "/j #ubuntu-offtopic"04:46
sakrecoerhi! am i the only one experiencing problems with apt getting stuck and eating processor? as in, is there an issue with the mirrors, or has my computer gone cuckoo out of the blue?04:48
Bashing-omsakrecoer: See: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/appstream/+bug/1579712 .04:49
ubottuLaunchpad bug 1579712 in appstream (Ubuntu Xenial) "Refresh hangs indefinitely, appstreamcli using 100% CPU" [High,Fix committed]04:49
sakrecoerthanks Bashing-om04:49
Bashing-omsakrecoer: :) You are not alone .04:50
sakrecoerincidently, i noticed this on most mirrors, maybe it is all in order, but it looks weird: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/appstream/+bug/157971204:50
ubottuLaunchpad bug 1579712 in appstream (Ubuntu Xenial) "Refresh hangs indefinitely, appstreamcli using 100% CPU" [High,Fix committed]04:50
sakrecoersorry wrong link04:50
Bashing-omsakrecoer: agreed, that is not right .04:52
Bashing-omsakrecoer: The list : https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+archivemirrors .04:54
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sakrecoerBashing-om: the same loop is in most mirrors i try04:58
sakrecoeri noticed it yesterday, it started arround 00:10 for me (been looking forward to the nm fix so heavy apt updating :D) i then ntocied this loop in my mirror and the "last Modified" date of that /ubuntu folder was 2016-05-19 23:5605:01
sakrecoeractauly, i haven't found one mirror that hasn't got the loop yet..05:03
YankDownUnder...now I understand why things have been a bit freaky...right oh...patience is a virtue...05:07
psykosonichi i was told this network can help me with my installation of ubuntu, im i right?05:21
psykosoniccan anyone help me?05:24
Ben64ask a question to find out05:24
psykosonicwell ive just tried installing ubuntu on my laptop and its been on the installing screen for about an hour not and it hasnt budged im not sure what to do05:26
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Ben64psykosonic: what installing screen05:27
psykosonicall it says is retrieving file 60 of 60, its to install ubuntu on my pc its done everything else05:28
psykosonici cant think what ive done wrong but this is the second time ive tried it and im still getting nothing05:30
hateballpsykosonic: Is this Ubuntu 16.04 you're trying to install?05:30
psykosonicyes it is ubuntu 16.0405:31
El_Chapopsykosonic, https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/appstream/+bug/158384505:32
ubottuLaunchpad bug 1579712 in appstream (Ubuntu Xenial) "duplicate for #1583845 Refresh hangs indefinitely, appstreamcli using 100% CPU" [High,Fix committed]05:32
El_Chapopsykosonic, You have to boot using the live cd first then use gparted to format the drive and run the install with ethernet unplugged05:33
El_ChapoUntil they fix the issue05:34
psykosonicwhats gparted is that the same as the universal usb installer? and ive kept my ethernet cable in could that be the problem?05:36
hateballpsykosonic: GParted is a program to manipulate your disks and partitions. You can run it once the live-media has booted05:38
hateballpsykosonic: And as El_Chapo said, you need to be offline during install05:38
hateballI'm not sure you have to manually partition things, the installer should handle it so long as you are offline05:38
psykosonicim running firefox on ubuntu now can i download this right now?05:38
psykosonicand the just start the installation again?05:39
hateballpsykosonic: Just try unplugging your ethernet connection and run the installer again05:39
psykosonicokay il try that first and then if it doesnt work il try GParted05:40
psykosonicthanks for the help05:41
jackcomwhat is VNC?05:41
lyzejackcom, a server/client thing to let people remotely control a pc05:43
jackcomoh it is almost same with netcat?05:44
jackcomlyze: ?05:44
lyzejackcom, no, not at all. Lets say you vnc onto a different guys computer then his computer sends you all the time a screen recording of his computer. then you see that and can controll the computer from him with normal keyboard/mouse inputs.05:45
lyzejackcom, https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Virtual_Network_Computing05:46
jackcomthanks lyze :)05:46
jackcomyou are very kind05:46
jackcomthen i can control other computer remotely? lyze ?05:47
jackcomoh great05:47
jackcomother computer instead of mine05:48
MaratusDoes anyone here know if there's a PPA for a cmake version newer than 3.0 on 15.04?05:48
jackcomvnc is same with remote remedy by special company?05:52
jackcomlyze: ?05:52
lyzeNever heard of that05:53
lotuspsychje!eol | Maratus05:56
ubottuMaratus: End-Of-Life is the time when security updates and support for an Ubuntu release stop, see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Releases for more information. Looking to upgrade from an EOL release? See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/EOLUpgrades05:56
dramaMaratus, just dl it https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/vivid/+package/cmake05:56
CanIHazMemeCats!help | CanIHazMemeCats05:56
ubottuCanIHazMemeCats, please see my private message05:56
nexiiI kind of have a noobish question for setting up an email server.  I bought a domain called foo.com and the hostname for the server is mail.  So would I enter mail.foo.com as the server name in my client application?05:59
MaratusHow did 15.04 reach eol so quickly? I thought it was a stable release?06:00
somsip!15.04 | Maratus06:01
ubottuMaratus: Ubuntu 15.04 (Vivid Vervet) was the 22nd release of Ubuntu. Support ended on February 4, 2016. See !eol, !eolupgrade and http://ubottu.com/y/vivid06:01
dramaMaratus, 14.04 was the LTS06:01
dramaMaratus, 16.04 is the new LTS now06:02
dramai think there is an upgrade path from 15.04 to 16.04 ?  I upgraded from 15.10 and it was painless06:02
MaratusI've got so many dependencies that would have to update, and I'm running a set of experimental drivers, I'm not sure if an upgrade would be worth the risk.06:04
dramaMaratus, i agree06:04
ubottuEnd-Of-Life is the time when security updates and support for an Ubuntu release stop, see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Releases for more information. Looking to upgrade from an EOL release? See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/EOLUpgrades06:05
lundmardid ubuntu just break apt update / appstreamcli ??06:06
dramai ran wheezy a long time after eol with no problems06:06
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Guest97344Will the r9 390 ever be supported on Ubuntu 16.04? I've tried Unity, Gnome, XFCE, Elementary and Kubuntu and have had not luck06:11
Guest97344Its an ASUS btw06:11
hateballGuest97344: Supported in what way? What issue are you having?06:11
MaratusGuest97344: Tell me about it. I've got a 390 and I've spent a full month trying to get OpenCL to work.06:12
hateballSupposedly there are more amdgpu improvements in kernel 4.6 and upwards, so you could try a mainline kernel06:13
MaratusI eventually just gave up and kept the unstable gallium3d drivers I used as a last resort.06:13
Guest97344Sorry for my brevity. . It will cause the OS to crash after about 20 minutes of use.  An in Unity it crashes if you open the launcher.  I've tried adding drivers via the dialogue and nothing has appeared.06:13
ubottuThe kernel team supply continuous mainline kernel builds which can be useful for tracking down issues or testing recent changes in the Linux kernel. More information is available at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Kernel/MainlineBuilds06:13
hateballGuest97344: fglrx is no longer supported, so there's no drivers to add06:13
Guest97344That makes sense hateball.  So I should compile a later kernel and try my luck?06:14
hateballGuest97344: Check the link above, no compiling needed06:14
Guest97344Ok thankyou very much06:14
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yosefhMy wifi has completely stopped working06:23
yosefhwhat do i do?06:24
hateballyosefh: What has changed since it was last working?06:24
yosefhKernel update i think06:24
yosefhbut it was several kernels ago06:24
yosefhand i have no idea which to use06:24
yosefhor how to fix it06:24
hateballyosefh: so you cannot see any networks at all, or you cant connect if you see them?06:26
yosefh[   12.199542] iwlwifi 0000:04:00.0: L1 Enabled - LTR Enabled06:26
yosefh[   17.197778] iwlwifi 0000:04:00.0: Failed to load firmware chunk!06:26
yosefh[   17.197806] iwlwifi 0000:04:00.0: Could not load the [0] uCode section06:26
yosefhdevice sort of loads i guess?06:27
yosefhbut no networks06:27
liuxuHello,today I installed ubuntu 14.04 on my laptop,it's Dell Inspiron 15 7559,i7 6700hq,display card gtx 960m,16G ram,128G ssd(100M /boot,/),1T hdd(16G swap,/home),and boot with legacy.When I start system,about 3 minutes,It's death,mouse can't move,everything is static...and I reboot the laptop,than display "The system is running is low-graphics mode"。。06:28
nexiiI kind of have a noobish question for setting up an email server.  I bought a domain called foo.com and the hostname for the server is mail.  So would I enter mail.foo.com as the server name in my client application?06:28
hateballyosefh: what chipset is it?06:29
hateballnexii: Sounds correct, yes06:30
yosefhhateball, http://pastebin.com/rCKTdNuY06:30
yosefhlots of info there06:30
hateballliuxu: 14.04 has quite old nvidia drivers, and you have a recent chipset. Either upgrade to 16.04, or use https://launchpad.net/~graphics-drivers/+archive/ubuntu/ppa to get to at least 36106:30
Seveasliuxu: for new installs, 16.04 is recommended. No guarantee that it will fix your problem, but at least you'll have two years worth of kernel improvements.06:31
yosefhhateball, iwlwifi-726006:31
hateballyosefh: Hmmm. I have the same chipset at home, and I've not had any issues. Sadly at work now so I can't look at my setup in detail06:32
yosefhhateball, anyway to reset it all?06:33
yosefhhateball, other than "just reinstall"06:33
Seveasyosefh: is the linux-firmware pacakge still installed?06:34
hateballyosefh: I don't quite know. afaik the intel firmware is in linux-firmware06:34
hateballyosefh: so you could try apt-get install --reinstall linux-firmware06:34
Seveashateball: it is06:34
yosefhSeveas, possibly not but I still have ethernet06:34
yosefhSeveas, also your name looks kind of familiar06:35
Seveasyosefh: try the command hateball gave06:35
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yosefhSeveas, Ive done kernel upgrades since then, wouildnt it have the same effect06:35
SeveasI've been in here for almost 12 years, so you might have seen me before :-)06:35
Seveasyosefh: possibly, but if some file got corrupt, and the firmware package isn't updated, an update won't help06:36
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Seveasa reinstall of that package is simple and safe06:36
yosefhSeveas, ok doing so now06:37
yosefhSeveas, done06:37
Seveastry rebooting to see if it now comes up properly.06:37
phucktankHi, I'm trying to pci-stub one of my USB controllers to passthrough to a VM. It works with my GPU but I can't get the USB controller to stub06:38
phucktankDoes anyone know what might be going on or an alternate method of passing through a usb controller?06:39
yosefhKeeps saying failed to run init ucode06:41
yosefhwhenever kernel starts06:41
akishi all. is there any problemtoday with ubuntu servers?06:41
Seveasyosefh: rats. That probably means an error communicating with the wifi chip then :(06:41
yosefhSeveas, did you see the logs i posted06:41
SeveasI did, but was hoping it was just broken firmware on disk, and not an error actually talking to the chip.06:42
Seveas'cause I have no idea how to debug that06:42
yosefhSeveas, thanks for trying06:44
akisIs there any problem today with ubuntu servers? plz help.06:44
Seveasakis: 'ubuntu servers' means absolutely nothing. What's the problem you have?06:45
Guest97344Probably something to do with the repositories taking ages to update06:45
SeveasGuest97344: that means a bit more, but very little. There are tons of mirrors, and most people also blame problems random 3rd party repos on "ubuntu servers" :)06:46
de-factoSomething always is blocking apt after i bootup in xenial, what can this be? i already killed aptd and deleted /var/lib/dpkg/lock but now it complains that /var/lib/apt/lists/lock is there06:47
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mhranhello all06:48
Seveasde-facto: sudo lsof | grep /var/lib/apt/lists/lock06:48
mhran I am using the raspberry pi 2 with Ubuntu mate06:48
Guest95798Hi howdy06:48
Guest95798I port forwarded my ssh port on my ubuntusetver on vb, and was wondering how i find out the external ip address i need to connect to it from a different network06:49
Guest95798how do06:50
hateballyosefh: havent accidentally disabled wifi with hardware switch either?06:50
yosefhhateball, so yeah it seems like something that might have happend based ont he logs but my hardware switch isnt physical. So I couldnt even if i wanted to06:51
Seveashateball: I don't think that would prevent host <-> chip communication, that tends to just disable the radio.06:51
headlesschildany updates on the apt bug for Xenial? https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/appstream/+bug/158384506:51
ubottuLaunchpad bug 1579712 in appstream (Ubuntu Xenial) "duplicate for #1583845 Refresh hangs indefinitely, appstreamcli using 100% CPU" [High,Fix committed]06:51
Seveasyosefh: 'nmcli radio' should show you whether the radios are on or off06:51
yosefhSeveas, jackpot (says Disabled)06:52
yosefhhow do i enable it06:52
yosefhWIFI-HW  WIFI      WWAN-HW  WWAN06:52
yosefhenabled  disabled  enabled  enabled06:52
yosefhsudo rfkill unblock wifi06:53
yosefhno results06:53
phucktankHi I am trying to passthrough a USB controller to a VM. I cannot get pci-stub to work. It works fine with my gpu but won't stub my USB. any ideas?06:53
AndrooI attempted to upgrade a 14.04LTS box to 16.04, and it failed in the initial stages, I don't think it upgraded anything, but now apt seems to be configured for xenial and there are 400+ updates available for the system.  How can I revert that?06:54
AxordThis appstreamcli issue is super embarrassing.06:54
yosefhsudo rfkill unblock all enables the bluetooth but not wireless06:54
yosefhIm out of time. Thanks for your help guys06:54
ducasseandatche: reinstall. the upgrade path from 14.04 to 16.04 is not ready yet.07:03
akisSeveas: i am trying with sudo apt-get update and cannot proceed. stops. i change server (from GR i choose main server), the system asked for ypdate, beginned udating cache and stopped. I am trying to update a fresh installation of 16.04 and the meanwhile i am writing from another notebook already 16.04 installed and cannot also finished with apt-get update. So that's why i am asking about servers. any idea?07:04
phucktankHi i need help passing through a USB controller to a virtual machine07:07
phucktankCan anyone help me that has experience with pci-stub?07:11
Serg_Penguinhi ! `apt-get update` stops w/o messages, `-o Debug::Acquire::https=true -o Debug::pkgDPkgPM=true` gives no help - last messages are '102k in 2sec'. How to debug any further ?07:11
Seveasakis: pastebin the logs please07:16
akisSeveas: http://paste.ubuntu.com/16517482/07:17
phucktankI can't get my usb controller to pci stub, it works fine with my gpu. Any ideas?07:17
Seveasphucktank: repeating your question every 10 minutes is quite annoying. If someone knows, they'll help.07:19
Seveasakis: you're saying it hangs at this point, after fetching? That means the servers are all fine, but your system has some strange issues processing what it downloaded.07:20
Seveasakis: which would be rather odd. The only explanation I can think of is having a full disk.07:20
akisSeveas: both systems? and  the new installation too? with a 1T hd? both laptops has the same problem with a fresh installation on them?  yesterday everything was ok.07:22
Seveasakis: that's why I said it would be rather odd. I'm probably wrong in my guess.07:22
Seveasmaybe someone else has a better idea07:23
phucktankWell I feel like an idiot. In case you'd like to know apparently I don't have to pcistub it like the GPU. It just passes through np07:28
survietaminehello, on a 16.04 server, I don't get why when I'm trying to install collectl package, apt tells me that it will install a bunch of packages (including apache). I don't see those packages with apt-cache depends collectl07:35
hateballsurvietamine: the packages that collectl depends on could however depend on apache07:36
akisSeveas: does this http://askubuntu.com/questions/774918/apt-get-is-stuck-at-fetched-xxkb-in-xxsec has to do with?07:37
survietaminehateball: I doubt, only 3 dependencies: pciutils, libtime-hires-perl, libio-compress-perl. None of those packages will depend on apache2 or gnu plot.07:37
somsip!info collectl07:39
ubottucollectl (source: collectl): Utility to collect Linux performance data. In component universe, is optional. Version 4.0.4-1 (xenial), package size 506 kB, installed size 2170 kB07:39
somsipsurvietamine: is it trying to install recommended packages by default? Try turning that off?07:40
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somsip!info collectl-utils | survietamine (this looks like it would install a lot)07:40
ubottusurvietamine (this looks like it would install a lot): Package collectl-utils does not exist in xenial07:40
somsip!info collectl-utils trusty | survietamine (this looks like it would install a lot)07:41
ubottusurvietamine (this looks like it would install a lot): collectl-utils (source: collectl-utils): Utilities to analyze and plot performance data from collectl. In component universe, is optional. Version 4.7.1-1 (trusty), package size 250 kB, installed size 1504 kB07:41
k1lcoldplot is recommended by collectl and pulls gnuplot and apache07:42
survietaminesee: http://asciinema.org/a/3g4tnv4mlmjj15q9s2fkhuzqd07:43
k1lsurvietamine: try with --no-install-recommends07:43
survietaminek1l: ok, I will try, but I'm trying to understand why I cannot see these dependencies for collectl07:44
survietaminesomsip: how can I check/disable auto install recommended packages?07:44
somsipsurvietamine: k1l has just told you07:45
survietamineah, sorry07:45
k1lsurvietamine: apt-cache depends collectl tells you that it suggests coldplot. which is the one with the heavy depencies07:45
survietaminek1l: ok, thanks, I'm a bit disappointed about the fact that my apt|apt-get install recommended packages by default. Is that new behaviour?07:46
k1lsurvietamine: if you want to turn that off in general: set APT::Get::Install-Recommends and APT::Get::Install-Suggests to false in /etc/apt/apt.conf07:46
tomkmemHi, hope not stupid question but what's the general idea around automatically connecting to one's 'preferred' network in wpa_supplicant? say i have a network with priority 100 specified but it's not currently available so i connect to one priority 20. then my preferred one is available. how can i make it automatically connect ? so i need to write something myself ?07:47
survietaminek1l: thanks a lot07:47
k1lsurvietamine: there is a reason for this behavior. there might now be missing some functions from the programs you install due to missing suggested packages07:47
akiswhy apt-get update hungs at Fetched on both my systems (32 bit & 64 bit) with fresh installation of 16.04?07:47
survietaminek1l: ok, I understand, but I have a lot of servers and each has a specific roles, I don't want all that packages like apache or so on every one of my servers07:48
survietaminek1l: my guess is that behaviour is more useful for desktop users07:49
k1lsurvietamine: not only for desktop users. but some users might install that collectr and than wonder why that output cant be plotted or shown on the server under ip:port or such.07:50
survietamineokay, I'm not that kind of users, so I'll disable that. Thanks again07:51
k1lyour systems, your decisions :)07:51
StianLHi! Can anyone help me in getting maven to work with java-6-oracle? $JAVA_HOME is set correctly, "java -v" and "javac -v" gives the right version, but "mvn -v" gives me "Unsupported major.minor version 51.0".07:52
akisthis http://software.moftalk.com/apt-get-update-hangs-in-16-04-MPtOh0qzV.html published 3 hours ago. what is going on???07:52
somsipsurvietamine: Referred to here I think. I know nothing except someone was discussing it earlier   https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/appstream/+bug/158384507:54
ubottuLaunchpad bug 1579712 in appstream (Ubuntu Xenial) "duplicate for #1583845 Refresh hangs indefinitely, appstreamcli using 100% CPU" [High,Fix committed]07:54
lotuspsychjeakis: try #ubuntu-mirrors perhaps for know issues07:55
survietaminesomsip: is that really for me?07:56
k1lakis: try this: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/appstream/+bug/1579712/comments/6007:56
ubottuLaunchpad bug 1579712 in appstream (Ubuntu Xenial) "Refresh hangs indefinitely, appstreamcli using 100% CPU" [High,Fix committed]07:56
somsipsurvietamine: the link you posted refers to appstreamcli running at 100% when apt-get stops. So yes. I think it is.07:56
somsipsurvietamine: ah - no. to akis :)07:56
survietamineI only pasted an URL for asciinema of my "problem" with dependencies :p07:57
akislotuspsychje: i am afraid is something new,  because i am facing today on 2 machines with fresh 16.04 instalation. no problem last days.07:57
lotuspsychjeakis: ok try what somsip & k1l advise07:57
somsipakis: and if you do want to try installing the patched package, this comes with lots of warnings https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Testing/EnableProposed07:58
Anastasia19I hv a 1GHz. Can I run Ubuntu07:58
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lotuspsychjeAnastasia19: yes07:59
lotuspsychje!flavors | Anastasia1907:59
ubottuAnastasia19: Recognized Ubuntu flavors build on Ubuntu and provide a different user experience out of the box. They are supported both in #ubuntu and in their flavor channel. The current list is: !Edubuntu, !Ubuntu-GNOME, !Kubuntu, Ubuntu !Kylin, !Lubuntu, !Mythbuntu, Ubuntu !Studio, !Xubuntu, and Ubuntu !MATE07:59
k1lAnastasia19: look at Lubuntu07:59
akissomsip: there is a recent (3 hours ago) complain here http://software.moftalk.com/apt-get-update-hangs-in-16-04-MPtOh0qzV.html08:00
somsipakis: yes. You posted that. I followed it and gave you more information and suggested action in a link08:00
k1lakis: did you even read what i said?08:01
somsipakis: as did k1l (acknowledging)08:02
akisk1l: sorry, i dont, could you please post it again08:02
k1lakis: and ubuntu doesnt track suspicious 3rd party forums. so that doesnt bring you anywhere do demand ubuntu looking at those websites08:02
k1l<k1l> akis: try this: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/appstream/+bug/1579712/comments/6008:02
ubottuLaunchpad bug 1579712 in appstream (Ubuntu Xenial) "Refresh hangs indefinitely, appstreamcli using 100% CPU" [High,Fix committed]08:03
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akisk1l: "Take note to not reload the package list when the software&updates asks you to, as it will hang." that's true I faced it already. But, how can go over "fetched" stopping? "Disabling the xenial-backports solves the issue"?08:05
k1lakis: open the systemsettings, uncheck backports, press close, when asked dont reload the packagelist. then run a "sudo apt update" in terminal08:06
christ_hi guys08:07
christ_i love ubuntu08:07
christ_i want to put ununtu everywhere08:08
akisk1l: ok, i will try it right now and i report. but, why yesterday i hadn't this issue. i installed 16.04 2 days ago only08:08
k1lakis: i dont know. you can read the whole bugreport if you are interessted08:09
christ_but i don t know if it is possible . i have a eepad tft 101 asus , i don t find a good tutorial to install ubuntu on this pad .08:09
christ_can i try like w a live usb stick ?08:10
christ_so many questions? guys give me a hands to guide me08:10
k1lchrist_: no. that is ARM hardware. you will need someone to make a specific iso for that exact tablet containing all the drivers etc.08:11
k1lchrist_: best is to look at the community from that tablet. xda-developers is a good spot.08:11
akisk1l: i unchecked. i gave again apt-get update and again stopped at fetched. do i have to reboot to take effect?08:12
christ_ok thanks08:12
k1lakis: i dont have that issue here. i can only tell you what several people on that bugreport said would work.08:13
akisk1l: would work with or without reboot?08:13
k1lakis: i dont know. try a reboot08:14
akisk1l: ok08:14
stratosI have a apt-get problem: When I do "sudo apt-get update" it hangs after "Fetched 281 kB in 10s (27,4 kB/s)". Top shows me that "appstreamcli refresh" is consuming 100% cpu. This is on Ubuntu 16.04 LTS.08:14
rafgasHelp! My ubuntu won't boot! All I have is a emergency mode08:14
k1lstratos: see if this helps: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/appstream/+bug/1579712/comments/6008:15
ubottuLaunchpad bug 1579712 in appstream (Ubuntu Xenial) "Refresh hangs indefinitely, appstreamcli using 100% CPU" [High,Fix committed]08:15
wuurafgas: more information pls08:16
rafgasI did an upgrade, rebooted and now it won't boot past Welcome to emergency mode",  and I'm logged in as root on cli08:17
rafgas@wuu I have ubuntu 16.04, fresh install with the mate desktop on a 3 year old computer. I'm not sure what info is relevant08:19
somsip!find pdf08:19
ubottuFound: evince, libqpdf-dev, libqpdf17, libreoffice-pdfimport, poppler-utils, qpdf, texlive-base, texlive-extra-utils, browser-plugin-freshplayer-libpdf, coq-doc-pdf (and 148 others) http://packages.ubuntu.com/search?keywords=pdf&searchon=names&suite=xenial&section=all08:19
hateballrafgas: cat /var/log/apt/history.log |nc termbin.com 999908:20
wuurafgas: hat a similar problem - just thinking how i solved it08:21
hateballrafgas: if you've had a kernel update, that might have some regression. you could try rebooting and picking an older in grub menu08:21
wuurafgas: have you tried booting the older kernel ?08:21
rafgashateball: no net connection :(08:22
rafgasWuu: how do I try that?08:22
hateballrafgas: reboot, hold/hammer left shift to get grub menu, pick an older kernel and press enter08:23
jairhello all08:23
jairare you guys having issues running apt-get update?08:23
tahaanDoes anyone know where I can quickly "paste" a screenshot, something like pastebin?08:23
jairin ubuntu?08:23
lotuspsychjetahaan: imgur.com08:23
Myrttitahaan: imgur08:23
rafgasWuu : no-go on older kernel :(08:24
wuurafgas: is there no older kernel or does it drop you at the welcome screen08:24
brunch875tahaan: if you want to do all from terminal you can do this: scrot -e 'curl -F "clbin=@$f" https://clbin.com'08:24
tahaanPerfect lotuspsechje and Myrtti08:24
wuujair define problems08:25
rafgasIt says "error uncleared pch fifo underrun on pch transcoder A"  don't know if that helps08:25
jairgetting stock and not completing the apt-get update08:25
wuujair 16.04?08:26
jairwuu: do we have a default ubuntu set of source.lst08:26
wuu(10:15:46) k1l: stratos: see if this helps: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/appstream/+bug/1579712/comments/6008:26
ubottuLaunchpad bug 1579712 in appstream (Ubuntu Xenial) "Refresh hangs indefinitely, appstreamcli using 100% CPU" [High,Fix committed]08:26
StianLFound the answer to my question above. I had to use a previous version of maven, because the newest version wouldn't use java6.08:27
rafgasI see here that it also says " no ACPI video bus found"08:27
wuurafgas: sorry no idea08:29
akisk1l: it worked! it read package list succesfully. thanks  lot.08:29
k1lakis: ok.08:29
rafgasHateball : older kernel didn't work08:31
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stratoshmm  Launchpad bug 1579712 is not for regular users.. for instance there are lock files left over, clean up that is assumed everybody is supposed to intutively?08:31
ubottuLaunchpad bug 1579712 in appstream (Ubuntu Xenial) "Refresh hangs indefinitely, appstreamcli using 100% CPU" [High,Fix committed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/157971208:31
|avalon|is there a way to roll-back update?08:31
|avalon|undo update08:32
de-factosomething is weird about my dpkg/apt in my box NOW, never had a problem before: both aptd and "gmain" (/usr/bin/python3.5) hold /var/lib/dpkg/lock for very long time. Well what causes this, and how do i prevent those from starting?08:32
hateballrafgas: what GPU do you have?08:33
mcphail|avalon|: no. Not automatically. Apt isn't designed for that08:33
|avalon|too bad, rafgas has no luck then08:33
rafgasI booted the *recovery mode* ran dpkg and now it seems to work, sorry, I should have tried that before coming here08:35
ducasse|avalon|: if you want to be able to rollback updates there's software that can do that if / is btrfs.08:35
de-factohah this is a child of gnome-software (gmain): should i just go ahead and serial kill those?08:35
de-factowhere is that started? i really dont want this08:35
rafgasI didn't even know what recovery mode did before now, that's pretty nice!08:35
de-factocan i savely uninstall all that gnome-software madness?08:36
thomasfustonIs it possible to turn off Unity appstarting shortcuts ? (super+number), i want to use (super+number) for switching virtual desktops08:36
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MikerhinosHi all, am I the only one with problems with apt-get update since today's update ? It just freezes while updating sources-list, tried from a different server and same problem.08:40
tjingboemyes - it is choking here too08:42
k1l see if this helps: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/appstream/+bug/1579712/comments/6008:42
ubottuLaunchpad bug 1579712 in appstream (Ubuntu Xenial) "Refresh hangs indefinitely, appstreamcli using 100% CPU" [High,Fix released]08:42
k1lMikerhinos: ^08:42
tjingboembut then it continues08:42
MikerhinosOk I disabled the backports, just have to reboot to close all running zombies in memory and try to update lol, brb08:44
de-factook i just removed /etc/xdg/autostart/gnome-software-service.desktop hmm maybe that nuked it (hopefully)08:45
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Guest62783when i am gpoing to update it is showing  " ask cannot be monitored or controlled08:46
Guest62783The connection to the daemon was lost. Most likely the background daemon crashed.08:46
Guest62783task cannot08:46
Guest62783what to do08:46
Guest62783It seems that the daemon died.08:47
Guest62783what to do08:47
MikerhinosOk seems that it will do the job until it's fixed :) thx all08:47
Guest62783Task cannot be monitored or controlled      ------ i am getting this massage08:47
Guest62783The connection to the daemon was lost. Most likely the background daemon crashed.08:48
Guest62783what to do about update08:48
MikerhinosIf you can't update, disable the backports in update list08:49
k1lGuest62783: what ubuntu, what program?08:49
Guest62783ubuntu 16.0408:49
Guest62783programme updater08:50
Guest62783package manager also not launching08:50
k1l see if this helps: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/appstream/+bug/1579712/comments/6008:51
ubottuLaunchpad bug 1579712 in appstream (Ubuntu Xenial) "Refresh hangs indefinitely, appstreamcli using 100% CPU" [High,Fix released]08:51
Guest62783may something be done in terminal08:56
Guest62783for that issuer?08:57
stratoshow do you disable backports when "software updater" is hanging?09:01
ducassestratos: edit sources.list manually.09:02
k1lstratos: open system settings :  software and updates.09:02
k1lstratos: and dont press "reload sources" when closing the systemsettings09:03
de-factowhy does update manager hang there, doing nothing, blocking dpkg lock, when a repo is empty? all files are there on their server, just they are empty (because no packages yet)09:03
stratosok tnx09:03
nbusronehow do I disable screensaver for certain application running at background ? like chrome browser watching youtube ?09:04
nbusronehow do I limit my network bandwidth ?09:04
hateballnbusrone: do you want to limit it by lowering the throughput?09:05
hateballnbusrone: iirc if you set it to fullscreen it should send that hint to the WM and disable screensaver09:06
nbusronehateball : For limiting , lowering the throughput of upload speed and download speed .09:08
de-factotc or wondershaper?09:08
mcphailk1l: do we need that appstream bug in the /topic? I've just been hit with it as well09:09
nbusronehateball : Any application would do it ? for ubuntu 14.04 since ADSL download drastically when upload reach the max.09:09
hateballnbusrone: try de-facto's suggestion. be aware they are not perfect09:09
WugHey, does anyone know of a way I can coerce an aufs filesystem to be mounted after the disks that comprise it? It's not coming up at boot (presumably because the disks it depends on aren't there yet)09:10
WugI've googled around a bit and it looks like there are nice solutions for arch linux but not ubuntu09:11
nbusronehateball :Screen saver like 10 min turn off monitor : Nope  , I tried with youtube at chrome with HTML5 it doesn't work.I tested with VM running windows Guest and Fullscreen still getting screen turn off.The only option I can do is to set the timer to "Never" and i need to setback once I quit09:11
mcphailWug: entries in /etc/fstab should be mounted in order09:11
Wugmcphail: All of the reading I've done indicates that this is not the case09:11
de-factonbusrone there is also trickle (apart from tc and wondershaper), actually there are quite a lot of approaches to this, though i cant speak of having experience with any of them09:12
hateballnbusrone: Hmmm, then I don't quite know. I do not use Unity myself09:12
Wugplus, if they were, it would be working09:12
Wug(aufs is listed after the others)09:12
mcphailWug: read "man fstab" - there in the 1st paragraph09:12
Wugyes it is09:13
WugThe order of records in  fstab  is  important  because  fsck(8), mount(8), and umount(8) sequentially iterate through fstab doing their thing, though at boot time mountall(8)09:13
Wug may process the file out-of-order when it believes it is safe to do so.09:13
mcphailWug: mine doesn't say that. Is that a 14.04 thing?09:14
Wugno idea. but I found a bug report about this behavior of mountall from 200909:14
Wugwhat version are you running? 16.04?09:14
nbusronede-facto : checking now tc and wondershaper thanks :)09:14
mcphailWug: yes. Mountall is an upstart thiong so 14.0409:15
mcphailWug: If you're on 14.04, I wonder if that is your problem?09:15
marusany one can help to get wlan0 name back, i've changed /etc/default/grub and reboot09:15
Wughas 16.04 transitioned away from upstart?09:15
mcphailWug: yes - systemd09:16
de-factonbusrone i think i tried once that trickle, it worked as far as i remember, but i dont remember any details actually09:16
Wugthe arch linux thing i read indicated that you can manually manage mount order (even at boot), and arch uses systemd09:17
WugI guess I'll just upgrade sometime, thanks09:17
mcphailWug: there must be a way to poke mountall to do its job properly09:17
nbusronede-facto : will report back after I tried,  find the GUI version too :)09:19
de-factonbusrone nice, try it and tell us how it worked for you :)09:20
davedavidsonHi guys, has anyone installed Rstudio Server on Ubuntu here?09:21
davedavidsonwait, did you install it?09:28
jonkyI'm guessing im not the first person to ask about appstream today. I've seen a couple workarounds.  is there a preferred workaround?09:29
k1l see if this helps: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/appstream/+bug/1579712/comments/6009:29
ubottuLaunchpad bug 1579712 in appstream (Ubuntu Xenial) "Refresh hangs indefinitely, appstreamcli using 100% CPU" [High,Fix released]09:29
jonkythanks.  is that a better method than this: http://askubuntu.com/questions/774986/appstreamcli-is-cooking-my-laptop-what-is-it-ubuntu-16-0409:30
arkusYo la room :)09:31
arkusJ'ai un étrange doute de conception....09:31
arkusSue une association (au sens merise du terme) entre deux tables, comprenant un attribut...09:31
somsip!fr | arkus09:31
ubottuarkus: Nous sommes desoles mais ce canal est en anglais uniquement. Si vous avez besoin d'aide ou voulez discuter en français, veuillez taper /join #ubuntu-fr ou /join #ubuntu-qc. Merci.09:31
arkusOups désolé ;)09:32
k1ljonky: well. yes. it will give you a working system until the fixed package is tested and then shipped09:32
jonkyk1l, thanks again09:32
brunch875uh... dpkg lock09:32
marusany one can help to get wlan0 name back, i've changed /etc/default/grub and reboot09:33
jonkybrunch875, if that's a question, scroll up and see k1l's suggestion to me09:33
brunch875WELP, can't open system settings09:35
brunch875it's the first time I experience something like this09:35
brunch875is /usr/bin/system-settings what launches it?09:36
ubottuFor lists of supported hardware on Ubuntu see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HardwareSupport - To help debugging and improving hardware detection, see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/DebuggingHardwareDetection09:37
brunch875brunch@dmichoke:~$ system-settings09:37
brunch875Could not initialize GLX09:37
brunch875Aborted (core dumped)09:37
k1lbrunch875: that is not the desktop system settings.09:37
brunch875ah no, that's the QML thing for ubuntu touch09:38
brunch875that didn't crash before though09:38
k1lbrunch875: what about you just click in the upper right and choose system settings?09:38
brunch875it happens nothing :D09:38
brunch875that's why I'm trying to launch from cli09:38
brunch875to see stderrr09:38
k1lbrunch875: unity-control-center09:39
brunch875sec, running out of battery09:41
brunch875brunch@dmichoke:~$ unity-control-center09:46
brunch875(unity-control-center:11812): GLib-CRITICAL **: g_strsplit: assertion 'string != NULL' failed09:46
brunch875Segmentation fault (core dumped)09:46
brunch875daayum! What should I do to report this as bug?09:46
saurabh_I'm using 14.04.4 (kernel 3.13_86) on a x86_64 bit laptop09:47
saurabh_My wifi card is ralink rt3290. I works great. But when I resume from suspend, It disables and complains about "The hardware switch being turned off"09:47
saurabh_When I try the hardware switch nothing happens. I have to reboot to get back my wifi.09:48
marusany one can help to get wlan0 name back, i've changed /etc/default/grub and reboot09:48
saurabh_so,I don't suspend that often09:48
saurabh_i tried everything from http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=221804309:48
saurabh_still problem persists09:49
Igor_Hi, I need to replace XP with Ubuntu on a very old pc with a 1GB of ram. It's working fine, but it is randomly freezing with a lines on the screen. Then, I need to restart whole PC. Can someone help me with that?09:50
saurabh_Igor_, did you upgrade your kernel?09:52
Igor_No, it's a fresh iso from the website. It's same with every other distribution09:52
saurabh_Igor_, oh, I guess your old pc has a damaged harddisk09:53
Igor_XP is working fine09:53
saurabh_oh then we can rule that out09:53
saurabh_are any graphics drivers buggy09:54
Igor_@saurabh How can i check that?09:57
yossarianukIs apt  still broken ?09:59
swebafter apt-get update freez on // Fetched 36.3 MB in 2min 11s (276 kB/s)09:59
swebow it's apt-get broken global problem ?10:00
yossarianuknoticed last night - on 2 deifferent machines (that were both fine earlier in the day)10:00
yossarianukany workaround ?10:00
yossarianukaccording to -> http://askubuntu.com/questions/774918/apt-get-is-stuck-at-fetched-xxkb-in-xxsec10:02
yossarianukYou have to manually fix it by downloading appstream packages ....10:02
yossarianukWhat about the people who do not know that ?10:02
yossarianuki.e - will it be fixed without intervention ?10:02
somsipyossarianuk: they come here and ask, or what for the release of the fix10:02
yossarianuki.e it will be fixed on the server end ?10:03
yossarianuk'most' users probably don't know about this room (many will be have used IRC)10:03
somsipyossarianuk: the ticket is marked as fix release or prepared. I'll get the link from earlier10:04
fugfaceyossarianuk: disabling xenial-backports and NOT reloading the package list works10:04
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ubottuLaunchpad bug 1579712 in appstream (Ubuntu Xenial) "Refresh hangs indefinitely, appstreamcli using 100% CPU" [High,Fix released]10:04
yossarianuksomsip: cheers10:04
somsipyossarianuk: np. It's a nasty one but it looks like it's been caught asap10:04
fifI need some help regarding developing in Java, but #Java is invite only, so I wanted to ask for help in #help which redirect to #freenode and I can't send messages in #freenode, so any help?10:04
somsip!register | fif10:05
ubottufif: Information about registering your nickname: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/InternetRelayChat/Registration - Type « /nick <nickname> » to select your nickname. Registration help available by typing /join #freenode10:05
fifIm not interesting in registering10:05
fifjust want to ask some programming related question10:06
yossarianukfif: well it sounds like that room requires you to register10:06
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yossarianuk#centos room also does10:06
yossarianukso either register or do not ask a question in that room.10:07
fifthat's my point, I want to be polite and ask my question in the appropriate room10:08
fifbut I don't want to register10:08
yossarianukfif: well if that room mandates you need to register you have no choice if you want to talk in that room10:10
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HanumaanI try to do update and upgrade in 14.04 get these errors: http://paste.ubuntu.com/16518507/ .. I mostly think because of the some 3rd party repos ..10:20
somsipfif: if you want to get into #Java you need to register. Simple as that10:21
k1lHanumaan: did you change python stuff on your system?10:22
yossarianukapt is presently broken which could not be helping10:24
Hanumaank1l, I have done some changes with python a month ago but after that I have done couple of updates and had no problems ..  seems like python problem .. how can you clear this problem?10:24
k1lyossarianuk:   see if this helps: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/appstream/+bug/1579712/comments/6010:25
ubottuLaunchpad bug 1579712 in appstream (Ubuntu Xenial) "Refresh hangs indefinitely, appstreamcli using 100% CPU" [High,Fix released]10:25
k1lHanumaan: a lot of system stuff is running on python. so changes might break them, like apt.10:25
yossarianukk1l: cheers - if I wait will the issue be resolved without intervention ?10:26
yossarianukI don't mind doing  a fix - I worry about 'the masses' though.10:27
k1lyossarianuk: i doubt you will get the updated package when updates dont work.10:27
brunch875uh oh, this happens to me too10:27
brunch875should I kill appstreamcli or will I break something?10:27
Hanumaank1l, oh .. thats a bit big thing .. is there way to repair?10:27
somsipk1l: you're an op? Any chance of a factoid for this?10:27
yossarianukwon't there be a load of people with broken systems with no idea how to fix it.10:27
somsipyossarianuk: we had this conversation already10:28
k1lyossarianuk: yes. but i wasnt triggered by that issue on my system. so it seems not everyone is10:28
yossarianukI just managed to do 4 udates - I cancelled 'apt-get update' - upgrade found 4 updates (none relating to apt/dpkg/appstream)10:30
k1lyossarianuk: seems like it needs some 3rd party repos to get triggered10:30
yossarianukbackports isn't 3rd party its enabled by default on 16.0410:30
yossarianukthe fact i maanged to get updates was this just due to the fcat I had them available before the bug ? rather than been found after the bug hit10:32
k1lyossarianuk: see the bug and the linked bugs to get the technical details if you are interested.10:33
TsakNorrishow to adjust services with ubuntu? Because long time ago it was services....then systemctl...so what is the latest?10:39
k1lTsakNorris: what ubuntu exactly?10:39
TsakNorrisk1l: well latest?10:41
k1lTsakNorris: "lsb_release -d" details matter10:41
trisshey all. The fans in my laptop are running really loud. Could anyone help me understand what's causing/fix the problem?10:48
trissMy laptop is whisper quiet under Windows10:48
trissI've tried several answers from askubuntu but to no avail.10:48
AbsurdTechI'm not sure if I think Ubuntu would cause it, but you could look at it from a physical perspective10:49
AbsurdTechDust for sure10:49
trissno. my laptop runs really quiet when i boot to windows.10:50
trissand it's pretty new and in a clean environment.10:50
AbsurdTechtriss: have you seen this thread yet? http://askubuntu.com/questions/516067/persistent-high-fan-speed-ubuntu-14-04/537538#53753810:51
trissthanks AbsurdTech, I did take a look... I'll double check all is set up ok.10:52
bratnerHi! i'm on 16.04, the gui updater got stuck so i killed it. Now i'm running after lockfiles. Is there a way to force all locks cleard and re-download all lists?10:56
stratosbratner: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/appstream/+bug/1579712/comments/6510:56
ubottuLaunchpad bug 1579712 in appstream (Ubuntu Xenial) "Refresh hangs indefinitely, appstreamcli using 100% CPU" [High,Fix released]10:57
Tommy2hey, how do you put /var/run & /var/lock into TMPFS?  https://wiki.archlinux.org/index.php/Tmpfs10:57
k1lyossarianuk:   see if this helps: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/appstream/+bug/1579712/comments/6010:57
Tommy2it will freeze, if you do it with /etc/fstab/10:57
k1lbratner: see if this helps: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/appstream/+bug/1579712/comments/6010:58
ubottuLaunchpad bug 1579712 in appstream (Ubuntu Xenial) "Refresh hangs indefinitely, appstreamcli using 100% CPU" [High,Fix released]10:58
Tommy2the arch wiki, alludes to using SYMLINK?10:58
AlexQHi. How can I make a process run after my _ALREADY_ running job finishes? I've got ffmpeg doing some heavy transcoding, but I'd like to run a few more files after this job finishes, without having to wait till it finishes to manually run a sequence.10:58
k1lAlexQ: command1 && command2&& command310:59
k1lthat will make them run when the first finished with no error10:59
AlexQIt's already running, like right now.10:59
trissAbsurdTech, it's made no difference I'm afraid....11:00
trisshow would I ascertain if the problem is with my graphics card or CPU fans?11:00
trissis there a tool that will tell me which of them is running loud?11:01
swebapt-get has an error ubuntu 16.04 !!! freez on apt-get update // Fetched 94.5 kB in 4s (21.4 kB/s)11:01
AlexQtriss: You can check temps with sensors11:01
k1lsweb: see if this helps: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/appstream/+bug/1579712/comments/6011:01
ubottuLaunchpad bug 1579712 in appstream (Ubuntu Xenial) "Refresh hangs indefinitely, appstreamcli using 100% CPU" [High,Fix released]11:01
AbsurdTechtriss: I've heard of this package called TLP before thats mainly used for power saving and such but can control fan speeds11:01
swebk1l: 503 0_o seems be entire ubuntu world have problem :D11:02
bratnerAlexQ, you can run grep on the process id in a loop with sleep , when the process id is not there break the loop and do whatever.11:02
trissthanks AlexQ, AbsurdTech i'll take a look.11:02
AlexQbratner: So no easier way probably?11:03
bratnerAlexQ, that is why bash scripting so useful. Pretty easy as well.11:04
AlexQbratner: No nicer way to check if a process of a PID is running than grepping ps ?11:06
trissAlexQ, running sensors-detect has highlighted that I might want to install coretemp module11:06
bratnerAlexQ,  stat /proc/$PID and see the return code ?11:07
trissis it usually safe to let it install this?11:07
trissyou don't know if its something already built in to the kernel do you?11:07
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AlexQI have no idea, triss. For instance, on my laptop sensors only return CPU temps, unfortunately.11:07
ubupeople, why is the internet community trashing ubuntu? everything i watch about ubuntu is negative, what is going on?11:07
k1lubu: better ask that in the offtopic channel :)11:08
k1l!ot | ubu11:08
ubottuubu: #ubuntu is the Ubuntu support channel, for all Ubuntu-related support questions. Please register with NickServ (see /msg ubottu !register) and use #ubuntu-offtopic for other topics (though our !guidelines apply there too). Thanks!11:08
trissok... I'll give it a try anyway. here goes......11:08
ubuthanks k1l11:08
Guest72802Sorry I didn't register the major Nick in time I am new to IRC.11:08
ubuk1l: cannot join  :-/11:09
th34lch3m1sthi, first reboot after 16.04 installation, what's this blue screen (Perform MOK management) with options (continue boot/change secure boot state/enroll key from disk/enroll hash from disk)?11:09
k1lubu: you need to register to freenode "/msg ubottu !register" will help you11:10
th34lch3m1stI should do something? I have selected "install third parts drivers"/turn off secure boot/secure boot password/etc etc at installation time. I'm supposed to disable secure boot in this screen, or what else?11:10
yossarianukk1|: cheers11:11
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gahanhow do I force cancelling of activity in landscape? 'Add hardware' is hanging on 'Add jujue machine...' for 24 hours now.11:13
trissok guys does this look normal to you chaps? I think this indicates that everything is running within safe ranges doesn't it? http://paste.ubuntu.com/16518995/11:15
bratnerAlexQ, here is a reference for you http://pastebin.com/9JfnGvRy11:16
YankDownUndertriss, all good11:16
AlexQthanks bratner, been doing my own in the meantime, but that seems nicer :)11:17
bratnerAlexQ, yeah, i have mislead you a bit. why the hell would you need to do a stat if you are in a script?11:18
AlexQbratner: Honestly, I don't even know what stat is, need to check11:19
bratnerAlexQ, stat is a command line utility (named after C function) that can tell you stuff about a file, like size and permissions, and whether it is a file/dir/socket...11:20
trissthanks YankDownUnder11:23
YankDownUndertries, Cheers mate.11:23
trissso I still wonder why my fan is running so loud....11:23
trisswhat should I check next?11:24
mcphailtriss: Dell laptop?11:24
trissno HP Envy...11:24
mcphailtriss: OK, sorry - no experience of that11:24
AlexQtriss: So that's only on Ubuntu then?11:25
AlexQtriss: The issue?11:25
AlexQbartner: So I can use that like that: "awaitend 1234; do stuff;" ?11:25
trissyes. Under Windows my machine is quite as a mouse.11:25
trissi think the battery life is a lot longer too.11:26
AlexQMaybe throttling doesn't work properly11:26
YankDownUndertries, http://askubuntu.com/questions/22108/how-to-control-fan-speed11:26
YankDownUndertriss, you should check, under Windows - what the temps are - and then configure Ubuntu to be exactly the same...configure your sensors to reflect the same temps...11:27
trissah thanks YankDownUnder - so I might have to set safe temperatures manually?11:27
AlexQtriss: But you managed to check the temps? I.e. if indeed everything is cold, but the fan is still going like crazy?11:27
EriC^^hi after suspending i get a password lock followed by another password lock(the standard one), 16.04 known bug/any fixes?11:28
trissAlexQ, yes that is the case11:28
YankDownUndertriss, Yes...copy the same info that you find under Winders...easy done.11:29
trissYankDownUnder, do you know where I'd find info under Windows?11:29
trissWindows 10 to be specific11:30
AfshaalHey all, is it safe to update libnl and network manager stuff yet?11:30
AfshaalAnyone know if that bug kill network manager has been fixed yet?11:30
AlexQEriC^^: Check what happens if you disable screen lock after screen off maybe?11:30
EriC^^what do you mean by screen off?11:30
EriC^^if i lock the screen normally with ctrl+alt+l it works right11:31
dryblowHi there, do someone has loops witch fetching while repository updates?11:31
EriC^^when i suspend i get another lightdm-locker type of screen for the password then the standard one11:31
OerHeksAfshaal, what bug exactly?11:31
YankDownUndertriss, Find yourself any number of "fan" or "temperature" related FREE software packages...you might want to look on "http://fileforum.betanews.com" -> heaps of free stuff there...easy enough...just spend a little time, research your shit, and you're all good...easy done11:31
AfshaalIf I perform an update to my libnl libraries now, is it going to kill my internet again?11:31
codfectionwhy I cant install openjdk version 6?11:32
AfshaalThere has been a bug with libnl since January or so and it somehow made it into the stable repositories a few weeks ago11:32
codfectionany help would be greatly appreciated11:32
trissok thanks YankDownUnder, one issue - sudo pwmconfig tells me: " /usr/sbin/pwmconfig: There are no pwm-capable sensor modules installed"11:32
trissDoes this mean fancontrol isn't likely to work with my system?11:32
AfshaalI had to remove and reinstall an older libnl package in order to make Network Manager and my whole internet support work again11:32
k1lcodfection: details matter: what ubuntu version is that exactly?11:32
AfshaalJust wonder if that bug has been dealt with yet11:33
codfection16.04 k1l11:33
YankDownUndertries, Have you installed "lm-sensors" - I shall assume? If not, do so...reboot...find the info from Windows...then config Ubuntu.11:33
halpmeplzis there any way to make the scrollbars in 16.04 thicker, they're so thin and require alot of precision to grab11:33
k1lcodfection: there is no openjdk-6-jdk in 16.0411:33
codfectionk1l, but I want it :(11:33
k1lcodfection: use 8 or 911:33
trissyes I installed lm-sensors and it added coretemp module11:33
codfectionk1l, so I need to install 14.04 just for that? any other workaround?11:34
codfectionI need 6 for testing purposed...11:34
trissso its that module that will control fan speed?11:34
YankDownUndertriss, "fancontrol" package11:35
ducassecodfection: install it in vm/container.11:35
trissok thanks I'll have a go11:35
k1lcodfection: no. dont use software that depends on that old unmaintained software11:35
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EriC^^AlexQ: pm-suspend works fine, actually doesn't ask for a password when turning back on, systemctl suspend asks for 2 passes11:35
codfectionducasse, vm takes resources especially while running emulator of android..11:35
codfectionk1l, is it possible to put some old mirror of 14.04 and install openjdk 6?11:36
k1lcodfection: no11:36
barakaanyone here installed R?11:37
stratos14.04 is openjdk 711:38
NightHwkDoes anyone know how to fix network problem. I was on ubuntu 15.10 and could access my share drive fine on anther computer but once I upgraded to 16.10 it won't take the network credientals11:38
codfectionstratos, the book I am reading says install openjdk11:38
codfectioncoz later ones doesnt work with some specific tools11:38
k1lcodfection: its deprecated11:38
lotuspsychjeNightHwk: #ubuntu+111:38
Tommy2hEllo  , how do you make a program stop asking for Password all the time?11:39
codfectionk1l, do you prefer openjdk or oracle java11:39
EriC^^Tommy2: which program?11:39
barakaR on a chromebook*11:39
Tommy2e.g. for Peerguardian   https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/PeerGuardian EriC^^11:39
k1lbaraka: chromebook is ARM. so you will need arm builds11:39
barakak1l so I did install ARM Rstudio server and it works fine, but the version is way off11:40
Tommy2EriC^^, on Windows  , it doesnt ask for password everytime you whitelist a site.  but it does for Linux,-- how do you turn that off>?11:40
k1lbaraka: talk to r studio about that11:40
barakak1l thing is the problem's with the version of R more than Rstudio itself11:41
vijaikumarbaraka: a simpler way to do it would be using anaconda python distribution11:41
barakaon a chromebook?11:41
EriC^^Tommy2: no idea11:41
BluesKajHey all11:41
k1lbaraka: what exactly is the issue now?11:41
lotuspsychjeTommy2: if something asks a password, there's a reason for it11:41
Tommy2lotuspsychje, EriC^^  the one method i've used before, (but doesnt seem to work with PeerG, is :  sudo usermod -a -G <PROGRAM> <USERNAME>11:42
Tommy2or GUI version:  "Settings > Users & Groups." (Put user into vlock group)11:43
stratos@codfection: you can install oracle jdk 6 from their tar.gz dist11:43
Tommy2so why isnt that working for PeerG,  (it worked for VLOCK, which is a screenlock program)11:44
codfectionstratos, would that go along with android studio?11:44
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stratos@codfection: it works with intellij in general - but i cant say with the android version of it11:45
codfectionstratos, thanks alot man11:45
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codfectionit would be same as apt get install openjdk right?11:45
trissYankDownUnder, - it looks to me like fancontrol uses pwmconfig to set fan speeds...11:45
stratos@codfection: there a post on installing oracle jdk on ubuntu here, but download jdk 6 instead of 8 https://sorenpoulsen.com/install-oracles-java-development-kit-on-ubuntu11:46
feixufirefox can't translate the javascript with document.write("<table>");11:46
feixuwhy ?11:46
trissbut I'm told there are no pwm-capable sensor modules installed....11:46
barakak1l I'm trying to install a version of r beyond 3.0.2 and it's not happening11:46
trissare we sure this is the way to fix things?11:46
k1l!details | baraka11:46
ubottubaraka: Please elaborate; your question or issue may not seem clear or detailed enough for people to help you. Please give more detailed information; for example, we might need errors, steps, relevant configuration files, Ubuntu version, and hardware information. Use a !pastebin to avoid flooding the channel.11:46
YankDownUndertries, Did you read the page I sent you? Here it is again... http://askubuntu.com/questions/22108/how-to-control-fan-speed11:47
codfectionthanks stratos11:47
codfectionit has more cocnfiguration.. if I install version 8 or 9 it does java home automatically11:48
codfectionusing apt get11:48
codfectionsuch as JAVA_HOME11:48
trissyes... I've run lm-sensors. pwmconfig fails to find any pwm capable sensors11:48
barakak1l here is the output of my command: https://bpaste.net/show/f70177a9d47711:48
OerHekscodfection, android studio with openjdk 6?? good luck trying that.11:48
barakabut when i run an apt-cache policy r-base that version shows11:49
codfectionOerHeks, which one should I use11:49
OerHekson 16.04?11:49
k1lbaraka: what ubuntu is it?11:49
trissI had a read of the man page for fancontrol.... it implies all the management happens through pwmconfig - which isn't available on my machine.11:49
OerHeksopenjdk 811:49
barakak1l Ubuntu 14.04 - through crouton, on a chromebook11:49
codfectionor oracle ?11:49
codfectionopenjdk or oracle ? OerHeks11:50
k1lbaraka: there is no r-base 3.2 in the repos for 14.0411:50
OerHekscodfection, we advise openjdk.11:50
k1lbaraka: so i guess you added a PPA? but ppas are not for ARM11:50
codfectionI will go for that11:50
codfectionthanks OerHeks11:50
barakak1l  I tried that but it didn't work11:50
YankDownUndertriss, Did you read the entire page and all the alternatives - and go through all the steps?11:50
k1lbaraka: please show the output of "apt-cache policy r-base"11:51
k1lbaraka: its very hard to get informations from you, btw11:51
barakak1l I'm sorry - just a moment11:51
trissyes... I haven't looked at Dell/ThinkPad specific stuff.11:52
trissand the genric answer talking about pwmconfig won't work on my system.11:53
barakak1l https://bpaste.net/show/2671dfd12ef611:54
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k1lbaraka: ok. so make sure your 3rd party repos work for ARM. which i bet they dont11:55
trissas pwmconfig reports: "/usr/sbin/pwmconfig: There are no pwm-capable sensor modules installed"11:55
barakak1l - I don't think so11:55
TJ-triss: I will tire folks out with this but I suspect the system has a manufacturer-installed firmware bug in its ACPI DSDT, which only activates all power functionality if it detects a Windows OS running11:57
TJ-triss: ACPI is *the* way the firmware informs the OS about all the platform-specific bits including thermal, device enablement, etc.11:57
trissthanks TJ-11:59
trissI just found info about a acpi_enforce_resources=lax flag for GRUB....11:59
trissDo you think that's worth a fiddle with? https://iandw.net/2014/10/12/fancontrol-under-ubuntu-14-04-resolving-usrsbinpwmconfig-there-are-no-pwm-capable-sensor-modules-installed/12:00
TJ-triss: it's probably a lot more involved than that, I can give you my 'standard' fix for these things if you want to try it12:00
YankDownUnderFrom what I have experienced in the past years (like since before linux was linux)...in most instances, folks kinda forget to check something - some little thing...or they get stuck into something without taking a breather and having a looksee around to see if there might be alternatives to a particular resolution...12:00
trissI'd love to have a look. The fans are really distracting12:00
TJ-triss: which Ubuntu release is that?12:01
trissYankDownUnder, 21 years linux experience here too.12:01
TJ-triss: OK, lets first discover which Windows versions the ACPI recognises: "pastebinit <( sudo strings /sys/firmware/acpi/tables/DSDT | grep -i windows )"12:01
TJ-triss: we're going to identify the 'latest' which usually causes the most ACPI functionality to be enabled12:02
codfectionhaving error while running android studio on 16.0412:02
YankDownUndertriss, so, that being said, how many times have you "overlooked" something that was actually the resolution to the issue, and spent hours and hours banging your head against the wall...hmm? :) All is good...time and patience...time and patience...those are the best tools...12:02
wander_is 16.04 already out?12:03
trissYankDownUnder, many many times. the solution isn't on that page for me12:03
stratos@codfection: did you install JDK or JRE?12:03
codfectionJDK 812:03
lotuspsychje!releasenotes | wander_12:03
ubottuwander_: Ubuntu 16.04 (Xenial Xerus) release notes can be found here: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/XenialXerus/ReleaseNotes12:03
codfectionby using apt-get install command12:03
stratos@codfection: so you chose "sudo apt-get install default-jdk"?12:04
wander_Hope the new release works better with my pentium 6th gen12:04
YankDownUndertriss, therefore, the answer lies somewhere else...such as possibly the lm-sensors page...or search through Google groups...along with the obvious Ubuntu and related forums...(and Debian forums)...and the i8 related posts and etc...(i8 being the sensor shit for Dell's)...the answer is out there...somewhere...12:04
lotuspsychjewander_: try a liveusb and see for yourself12:04
codfectionstratos, sudo apt-get install openjdk-8-jre12:05
trissTD- here's the info: http://paste.ubuntu.com/16519682/12:05
stratos@codfection: your should get the JDK not the JRE12:05
TJ-triss: so "Windows 2013" looks to be the one to try12:05
stratosJDK = development kit with the compiler, JRE only the runtime12:06
codfectionstratos, so bro should I remove jre or just install jdk on top of it?12:06
TJ-triss: "sudo sed -i 's/^\(GRUB_CMDLINE_LINUX=".*\)"/\1 acpi_osi=! acpi_osi=\\"Windows 2013\\" "/' /etc/default/grub "12:06
stratosi would remove it12:06
wander_-098712q3wr5t u76yp-[12:06
stratosJDK include a JRE too12:06
TJ-triss: then check the new options are there with "grep acpi_osi /etc/default/grub"12:06
codfectionhow to remove properly12:07
codfectionapt-get remove ?12:07
TJ-codfection: No!12:07
lotuspsychjewander_: no caps please12:08
TJ-codfection: JDK depends on JRE, so if you install the JDK you'll just reinstall the JRE... just install the JDK which will add the additional bits12:08
stratosI dont think you have dependencies on open jre 8 if you just onstalled it explicitly12:08
auronandacewander_: ctrl+c12:08
iceywander_: ctrl-c will stop it12:08
trissTJ- think I had a bit too much in my grub config for that sed to work12:08
wander_Sorry hw do i stop ssh someone into my pc and he is removing things12:08
wander_local network12:08
TJ-stratos: I meant if the user wants -jdk -jdk "Depends:" on the -jre12:08
iceyunfortunately, it may be too late; I did that on 16.04 release day and it took about 10 minutes for the computer to crash, even after stopping the dd after about 4 MB of writes12:08
TJ-triss: can you "pastebinit /etc/default/grub" ?12:08
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trisshere's greps output:12:09
codfectionstratos, and TJ. sorry I am quite confused. to remove or not. hehe12:09
trissI think I need to remove the acpi_osi=!Windows 2012 first12:09
trisswhat exactly should my GRUB_CMDLINE_LINUX* options be?12:09
stratosif you remove it then the JDK may reinstall it as a dependency -- no problem12:10
TJ-triss: ahhh, can you manually remove the acpi_osi entry for GRUB_CMDLINE_LINUX_DEFAULT ? that won't help; in fact that wouldn't have had any effect anyhow12:11
TJ-triss: because there's a space in the string it has to be surrounded by double-quotes when the kernel sees it, which is why you'll see my additional has \" useed inside the variable assignment string12:11
ginabotCan anyone help me install wifislax on Ubuntu 1612:14
TJ-triss: once you've made that change you can do "sudo update-grub" which writes it to /boot/grub/grub.cfg, and do a reboot and see if the fan gets better behaved, and if you can use pwmcontrol etc. Once you reboot ensure the kernel has the option on its command-line with "cat /proc/cmdline" *and* it took with "dmesg | grep _OSI" which should report ACPI: Added _OSI(Windows 2013)12:14
lotuspsychjeginabot: doesnt seem like its in the repos12:14
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lotuspsychjeginabot: only ubuntu support here sorry12:16
ginabotI see ok12:16
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_uggH guys... Whats the best way to manage & sync and iPod classic on Ubuntu ??12:18
lotuspsychje!ipod | _ugg12:18
ubottu_ugg: For information on how to sync and add tracks to your iPod, see the guide at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/IPodHowto - For the iPhone and the iPod Touch, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/PortableDevices/iPhone - See !RockBox for information on liberating your iPod12:18
_uggThank you very much for the link. Going to check it out now :)12:19
codfectionok I have sucessfully installed android studio on ubuntu but I am getting this error. : IllegalArgumentException: button doesn't exist 012:26
roryI have a question about logrotate. If I have two "overlapping" configs as shown in this paste, what will the behaviour be for foo.log? http://pastebin.com/raw/XKDPcduN12:26
trissTJ- great I'll give this a try... would you mind spelling out exactly what should be in GRUB_CMDLINE_LINUX? I'm being a little slow today12:26
_uggAlso guys I plan on wiping osx from a 2009 standard macbook and installing Ubuntu. Has anyone had any experience with Ubuntu gnome on a mac system ??12:27
trisssed + fact I already had some stuff set has lleft it in this mess:12:27
trissGRUB_CMDLINE_LINUX=" acpi_osi=! acpi_osi=\"Windows 2013\" "12:27
Mr_Redwtf? o.o12:28
EriC^^!mac | _ugg12:30
ubottu_ugg: For help on installing and using Ubuntu on a Mac, see: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MactelSupportTeam/CommunityHelpPages12:30
TJ-triss: that's exactly correct, that's what my 'sed' line put in12:30
_uggThanks again :) Taking a look at that llink now too :)12:30
trissoh ok! cheers man. I'm crossing my fingers and toes now. time for a reboot.12:31
TJ-triss: "sudo update-grub" and give it a test12:31
MrKeunerhi everyone, I have three Ubuntu boxes at home. when I ssh into them I can see that they require a restart when necessary. I don't want to reboot from remote and delay it. But when i am on the machine with the gnomeshell and I don't see any icons/warnings to reminde me that I shoudl reboot. How do you people handle that?12:32
MrKeunerusing some gnomeshell extension? A script to touch a file on Desktop maybe? Anything else?12:33
stratos@codfection: maybe you should try this ppa https://paolorotolo.github.io/android-studio/12:34
codfectionstratos, but I installed12:36
codfectionusing android studio.tar from google website12:36
bsdnoobI keep getting 502 gad gateway with apt-get12:37
smokeinkhello! gvfsd-trash is consuming a lot of CPU , any idea what's causing this problem and how to fix it ? deleting ~/.local/share/Trash did not help12:37
bsdnoobyum works fine12:37
bsdnoobI am using proxy btw12:37
Mr_Redtry with apt-get install -f12:37
yossarianukapt-get upate = now fixed !12:37
OerHeksbsdnoob, join the channel of your distro, this is ubuntu support only12:37
k1lbsdnoob: ubuntu doesnt use yum.12:38
bsdnoobOerHeks, yes apt-get is the problem12:38
bsdnoobit does not works with proxy12:38
Mr_Redsome people think what ubuntu = arch12:38
bsdnoobother distro happily do the job12:38
k1lbsdnoob: what output do you get with "lsb_release -d"?12:38
gahanhow do I force cancelling of activity in landscape? 'Add hardware' is hanging on 'Add jujue machine...' for 24 hours now.12:38
OerHeksgahan ask in #juju ?12:39
gahanOerHeks: trying everywhere, sorry :)12:39
OerHeksgahan, best place to ask, afaik12:40
bsdnoobk1l, Description:Ubuntu 14.04.4 LTS12:40
gahanOerHeks: thanks12:40
k1lbsdnoob: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/AptGet/Howto#Setting_up_apt-get_to_use_a_http-proxy12:41
bsdnoobk1l , it does not works12:41
bsdnoobI get 502 bad gateway12:41
OerHeksbsdnoob, so you followed that guide?12:42
k1lbsdnoob: i am quite sure the page i linked tells exactly what to do12:42
bsdnoobyeah kil12:43
bsdnoobMy proxy is set12:43
bsdnoobbut it does not works12:43
bsdnoobI have to manually download deb files from curl12:43
k1lbsdnoob: you need to set apt-get to use that proxy like mentioned in the page i linkde12:43
bsdnoobk1l , again12:44
bsdnoobit is set12:44
k1lhow exactly?12:44
bsdnoobk1l, using env variable http_proxy12:45
bsdnooband /etc/apt/apt.conf reads Acquire::http::Proxy "";12:45
k1ldoes the poxy need authentification?12:45
destinydrivenis it safe to re-install appstream now and should I even want to do that?12:46
bsdnoobki1 , no12:46
bsdnoobit's a simple squid proxy12:46
bsdnoobcurl works12:46
bsdnoobbut not apt-get12:46
k1lbsdnoob: the export http... doesnt work since its only using your user12:47
bsdnoobbut apt.conf should work12:47
bsdnooband it does't :(12:48
trissTJ-, my fans still run loud... the command line took.... and ACPI did add Windows 2013 but I also info about a firmware bug: http://paste.ubuntu.com/16520253/12:48
trisspwmconfig still tells me there are no pwm-capable sensor modules installed.12:49
trissany thoughts?12:49
k1lbsdnoob: are you sure the server is up?12:51
snfgfI have user in group sudo, and line '%sudo   ALL=(ALL:ALL) ALL'  in sudoers. But when I do 'user$ sudo blah' it says 'user not in  sudoers file'. How come?12:52
bsdnoobk1l , yes it is up12:52
bsdnoobagain curl is works fine12:52
trissoh hang on there are a lot of ACPI warnings in dmesg's output - here's the output of dmesg | grep ACPI: http://paste.ubuntu.com/16520337/12:53
lelapinHabbie, Were you the one who answered me yesterday, about MM keyboard ? :)12:53
Habbielelapin, i think so12:54
snfgfI have user in group sudo, and line '%sudo   ALL=(ALL:ALL) ALL'  in sudoers. But when I do 'user$ sudo blah' it says 'user not in  sudoers file'. How come?12:54
lelapinHabbie, I wanted to thank you to make me find a workaround. I was too much "inside the box" and you gave me the track. :)12:55
Habbielelapin, yay12:55
de-factoyay "sudo apt upgrade"  can make the GUI freeze for minutes, making the system totally unresponsive, good design! :(12:55
mortezaHello every one12:56
yossarianukde-facto: that isn't right12:56
argon__snfgf: do sudo nano /etc/sudoers12:56
abdeeubuntu software center in xenial xerus more slower, right? Or just me experience it?12:57
TJ-triss: that's a pain! what make/model is the system? maybe you could post the entire "pastebinit <( dmesg )" output?12:57
stratosde-facto: its just consumes 100% cpu but hopefully you have more than one cpu :)12:57
de-factonope maybe one core but not all12:57
snfgfargon__, I am not in sudoers, it says12:57
snfgfI can su -, to root, and then edit12:58
argon__snfgf: near the end of the file (along with root) put snfgf ALL=(ALL) ALL12:58
lelapinHabbie, I used the keyboards setting to capture the MM keys and do "audacious --play-pause" and other stuff. ;) But Do you know if there's a way to ask audacity to go farther (a few seconds) or earlier inside the same track as it is available on keybord ? Nothing on man audacious neither on the website about this (or I wasn't able to find the info). ;/12:59
de-factoi guess its processing some triggers for 76 MB ( !!! ) fonts?! "fonts-noto-cjk", but still freezing the WHOLE GUI for that? thats bad design12:59
Habbielelapin, don't know that, sorry12:59
trissthanks TJ- entire dmesg output is here: http://paste.ubuntu.com/16520429/12:59
snfgfargon__, thanks12:59
trissjust double checking make and model number... it's not printed on my machine anywhere!12:59
lelapinHabbie, You helped me a lot already. Thx ! See you. :)13:00
argon__snfgf: np13:00
Habbielelapin, np :)13:00
TJ-triss: it's available via software using the DMI sub-system, hang on13:00
TJ-triss: so ACPI is reporting 3 thermal zones (sensors) but no indication of a FAN control13:03
trissoh ok... does that mean I'm unsupported for the time being?13:04
TJ-triss: line 39 of pastebin "DMI: Hewlett-Packard HP ENVY TS 15 Notebook PC/1967, BIOS F.65 11/20/2014"13:05
TJ-triss: just as a standard procedure I'd check for an updated firmware from HP13:05
abdee_my hang is back, sorry anybody have same experience with new ubuntu software center? Very slow when searching softwar13:06
trissah ok man. I'll check. thanks for all your help with this. you're a gent.13:06
Mr_Redhi kids13:06
TJ-triss: have you retired "sudo sensors-detect" since the reboot?13:07
trissyes... it reported the I should add coretemp again... but that was already in /etc/modules13:09
trissthink I'm gonna boot in to windows and check for bios updates....13:10
LuckyTuxHey, how secure is Ubuntu's build in disk encryption?13:11
TJ-LuckyTux: try cracking it :)13:11
LuckyTuxhahha :D13:12
LuckyTuxIs there any point having it together with truecrypt ?13:12
terminal92encryption disk can cracked?13:12
lotuspsychje!security | LuckyTux13:12
ubottuLuckyTux: Security Updates are dealt with here:  https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Security - See also !root, !firewall, !server, and !usn13:12
LuckyTuxubottu thanks13:12
ubottuYou're welcome! But keep in mind I'm just a bot ;-)13:12
TJ-LuckyTux: only if you multiboot and want Windows and Linux to both have access to an encryption file-system13:12
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LuckyTuxTJ- thanks!13:12
ubottuDo not try to guess the root password, that is impossible. Instead, realise the truth... there is no root password. Then you will see that it is 'sudo' that grants you access and not the root password. Look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RootSudo13:13
terminal92hi too13:13
terminal92my windows xp in vbox LOL13:14
lotuspsychjeterminal92: can we help you with something?13:14
ubottuUbuntu, like any other Linux distribution, has built-in firewall capabilities. The firewall is managed using the 'ufw' command - see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UFW | GUI frontends such as gufw and ufw-kde also exist. | An alternative to ufw is the 'iptables' command - See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/IptablesHowTo13:15
terminal92about driver printer, I have a problem to install driver printer on ubuntu 15.1013:15
lotuspsychje!printers | terminal9213:16
ubottuterminal92: Printing in Ubuntu is done with cups. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Printers - https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HardwareSupportComponentsPrinters - http://linuxprinting.org - Printer sharing: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/NetworkPrintingWithUbuntu13:16
terminal92is it database all printer?13:16
lotuspsychjeterminal92: wich printer are you trying to get to work?13:16
terminal92canon ip130013:17
lotuspsychjeterminal92: is it branched by usb cable?13:17
ubottuUbuntu Server Edition is a release of Ubuntu designed especially for server environments, including a server specific !kernel and no !GUI. The install CD contains many server applications. Current !LTS version is !Xenial (Xenial Xerus 16.04) - More info: http://www.ubuntu.com/products/whatisubuntu/serveredition - Guide: https://help.ubuntu.com/lts/serverguide - Support in #ubuntu-server13:17
terminal92yes, that's use usb cable13:17
lotuspsychje!msgthebot | LuckyTux13:17
ubottuLuckyTux: Please investigate with me only with "/msg ubottu Bot" or in #ubuntu-bots.  Search for factoids with "/msg ubottu !search factoid".13:17
lotuspsychjeterminal92: ddi you try adding the printer via printer wizard?13:18
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terminal92yup but doesn't work13:19
lotuspsychjeterminal92: old thread, but perhaps still usefull: http://askubuntu.com/questions/240338/how-to-setup-canon-inkjet-pixma-ip-130013:20
lotuspsychje!ppa | terminal92 see also the risks of adding ppa13:20
ubottuterminal92 see also the risks of adding ppa: A Personal Package Archive (PPA) can provide alternate software not normally available in the offical Ubuntu repositories - Looking for a PPA? See https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+ppas - WARNING: PPAs are unsupported third-party packages, and you use them at your own risk. See also !addppa and !ppa-purge13:20
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terminal92ok, I am trying... Thanks for advise :)13:21
terminal92Btw can I compile from source code about my problem?13:23
terminal92without PPA I mean13:23
lotuspsychjeterminal92: i think what you need is the .ppd file, so not sure it can be compiled13:24
terminal92uhm... okay13:25
thomasfustonAloha, i have 16.04 ubuntu installed with unity, is there a way to turn of some shortcuts of unity? if i press <super>+<number> it starts applications from the left panel, is there a way to turn this off?13:25
lotuspsychjeterminal92: perhaps you could try the cups way from here also: http://printersquestions.com/How-to-install-Canon-PIXMA-iP1300-on-Ubuntu.html13:27
lotuspsychjethomasfuston: try compizconfig-settings-manager to tweak13:27
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terminal92I got this https://help.ubuntu.com/community/HardwareSupportComponentsPrinters/CanonPrinters/CanonPixmaIP220013:30
lotuspsychjeterminal92: yeah that might work13:30
lotuspsychjeterminal92: looks like the same 2200 driver from the ppa so13:31
terminal92yep, this is should work! :D13:31
thomasfustonah ok lotuspsychje, thx alot! :)13:33
lotuspsychjeterminal92: if you get it to work you might perhaps update this bug how you solved? https://bugs.launchpad.net/baltix/+bug/95904313:37
ubottuLaunchpad bug 959043 in Baltix "Canon PIXMA ip1000 and others (ip1200, ip1300, ip1500-ip1900, ip2200, etc) drivers were removed from Ubuntu 12.04 (Precise Pangolin)" [Medium,Confirmed]13:37
Sagari am getting an error13:40
Sagarroot@wolf:~# sudo systemctl status apache2 => Failed to get properties: Failed to execute program org.freedesktop.systemd1: Permission denied13:40
Sagarubuntu xenial 16.0613:40
lotuspsychjeSagar: upgrade or clean install? desktop or server?13:42
Sagar0 to upgrade, 0 to newly install, 0 to remove and 0 not to upgrade.13:43
lotuspsychjeSagar: did you upgrade from 14.04?13:43
Sagarno direct xenial13:43
lotuspsychjeSagar: try the #ubuntu-server channel perhaps13:44
lotuspsychjeSagar: https://help.ubuntu.com/lts/serverguide/httpd.html13:45
VikingHoarderis it "peaceful" to upgrade from 14.04 to 16.04?13:45
lotuspsychje!ltsupgrade | VikingHoarder not yet13:46
ubottuVikingHoarder not yet: Users of 14.04 LTS will be offered the automatic upgrade when 16.04.1 LTS is released, which is scheduled for July 21st.13:46
VikingHoarder"peaceful" =  not many problems reported13:46
SwedeMikeVikingHoarder: not yet, it will be in 16.04.113:46
VikingHoarderoh ok13:46
Sagarlotuspsychje: i see nothing there13:48
TJ-Sagar: is it booted in 'upstart' mode?13:48
Sagarhow can i check it?13:49
SakamiI'm experiencing some problem installing xubuntu 14.04 in virtualbox.13:51
SakamiHost: debian sid | Guest: xubuntu 14.04.413:52
SakamiAfter I installed the guest additions, I can't get into GUI13:52
ubottuVirtualbox is a virtualizer for x86 and amd64 architectures. It's available in the package "virtualbox" in the !repositories, and you can download the Virtualbox Extension Pack for additional, non-Free functionality at http://virtualbox.org . Additional details can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/VirtualBox13:53
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ubottuxchat and xchat-gnome have not had stable releases in years. xchat was removed from Ubuntu for 16.04. Consider using hexchat instead, which is actively developed and available in 14.04 onwards.13:53
lotuspsychje!msgthebot | Mr_Red13:54
ubottuMr_Red: Please investigate with me only with "/msg ubottu Bot" or in #ubuntu-bots.  Search for factoids with "/msg ubottu !search factoid".13:54
terminal92do you installed vbox extension?13:54
Sakamiterminal92: In fact this problem arises after I installed the guest addition. Without guest addition it's fine13:54
terminal92try command startx13:55
Sakamiterminal92: I'm greeted with a black screen and unable to switch to other VTs by Host+F1-F613:56
lotuspsychjeSakami: there is also a #vbox channel13:56
trissTJ-, sorry to keep hassling you about this but you've been a star. My BIOS was already up to date.... do you have any other thoughts?13:56
xplora1ayes just moved over to hexchat, looks pretty good.13:57
lotuspsychjetriss: best to re-ask your issue to the chat, all in one line with all details once in a while13:57
trissthanks lotuspsychje - I'll pull it all together and type it up.13:58
TJ-triss: I'm afraid not; there were no additional clues in the dmesg output and you've enabled Linux to masquarade as Windows, so the only explanation is that the system's ACPI DSDT code is actually requring something else from the OS, such as a specific function call to enable things, which presumably only a system-specfic Windows driver knows about13:58
TJ-triss: the cause is, I'm 100% confident, in the ACPI activity of the firmware, since that is the bit responsible for this functionality13:58
TJ-triss: the fan is running constantly because the OS hasn't said to the ACPI DSDT "OK, I've got control now, so I can lower the speed unless temperatures increase"13:59
Bent0I've removed nginx using apt remove and then removed /etc/init.d/nginx and /etc/nginx etc by hand. Now when I apt install nginx again it installs nginx but doesn tcreate the default folders and init scripts again :s any idea?13:59
trissthat's a shame... so really I'm waiting for kernel devs to build something really?14:00
trisswhere would one log an issue about something like this?14:00
lotuspsychjetriss: didnt follow the thread, but did you try a higher kernel like 4.6 yet?14:00
trisshmmm... might have a go... it's been years since i needed to build my own kernel...14:01
whatasI have a question for you guys14:01
lotuspsychje!mainline | triss you dont need to14:01
ubottutriss you dont need to: The kernel team supply continuous mainline kernel builds which can be useful for tracking down issues or testing recent changes in the Linux kernel. More information is available at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Kernel/MainlineBuilds14:01
trissthanks guys. You've all been super helpful.14:02
TJ-triss: the device isn't doing what is expected, and it would seem likely HP have written code specifically for Windows drivers and not published any info about that so Linux cannot do anything14:02
whatasSO i had 14.04 LTS and i updated to 16.04 and it came up as a console14:02
lotuspsychje!ltsupgrade | whatas14:02
ubottuwhatas: Users of 14.04 LTS will be offered the automatic upgrade when 16.04.1 LTS is released, which is scheduled for July 21st.14:02
TJ-triss: you could try hammering HP support until you get to someone that really knows, in 3rd level support maybe!14:02
lotuspsychjewhatas: its not recommended yet14:03
whatasOk yeah14:03
whatasI just flashed my drive14:03
whatasand reinstalled windows14:03
lotuspsychjewhatas: try a clean install if you cant wait?14:03
whatasIll wait14:03
whatasThanks guys!14:04
whatasTake care14:04
trissTJ- ah ok man... I'll log a fault with them and see if there forthcoming with any info.14:05
brunch875Whenever a new version rolls out I just clean install; so, out of curiosity... how well do upgrades work? Does stuff and packages tend to break?14:05
trissYou're pretty sure a fix won't be in newer kernels yet?14:05
lotuspsychjebrunch875: upgrades work nicely, it its time to upgrade14:05
lotuspsychjetriss: TJ- left14:06
lotuspsychjetriss: i advise you test a higher kernel, to make sure its not related for your case14:06
trissok thanks man. I'll give it a go.14:06
lotuspsychjebrunch875: wich upgrade are you willing to try?14:07
brunch875Oh no, I always clean install as soon as it's out14:07
brunch875was just a matter of curiosity since I never upgrade14:07
ducassetriss: at the end of the day you probably need to talk to hp, and they are *horrible* at stuff like this.14:07
lotuspsychje!upgrade | brunch875 check here14:08
ubottubrunch875 check here: For upgrading, see the instructions at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UpgradeNotes - see also http://www.ubuntu.com/desktop/get-ubuntu/upgrade14:08
trissducase - this makes me really sad. You'd have thought they'd be super keen to get Linux support going by now.14:08
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ducassetriss: they could care less, unfortunately. i'm never buying hp again.14:09
LopeI want to get debootstrab deb file for xenial (I'm not running Xenial) http://packages.ubuntu.com/xenial/all/debootstrap/download Now I want to check that the SHA256sum matches the Ubuntu GPG key. How do I do that?14:09
LopeWhere is there a SHA256SUMS file that includes the debootstrap deb package?14:10
OerHeksLope, scroll down that page14:11
Bent0I've removed nginx using apt remove and then removed /etc/init.d/nginx and /etc/nginx etc by hand. Now when I apt install nginx again it installs nginx but doesn tcreate the default folders and init scripts again :s any idea?14:11
LopeOerHeks: I did, there's nothing about GPG signed stuff there?14:11
OerHekssha256checksum, yes there is14:12
LopeOerHeks: you need to educate yourself on what a GPG signed checksum is.14:12
lotuspsychjeLope: tone down please14:12
mortI have a system running 16.04. Sometimes, when trying to shut it down, it just hangs endlessly. Any idea how to fix that?14:13
mortSystemd just prints "Reached target Shutdown" and then nothing happens14:13
Lopelotuspsychje: okay, sorry.14:13
lotuspsychjemort: does a sudo halt -p shutdown properly?14:13
mortdon't know, I generally use sudo shutdown -h now14:13
enoch85hey guys, I have an issue with dependency issues with mysql 5.6 and I don't know how to solve it14:13
enoch85I tried to purge mysql*14:13
enoch85and reinstall14:13
enoch85but it didn't help14:13
enoch85and now I get this: http://pastebin.com/5zAwn3jv14:13
enoch85and when I try to install again I get this: http://pastebin.com/K1svVqMz14:13
trisshmmmm.... am I right in thinking there's no 4.6 mainline kernel for xenial yet?14:14
mortis there any reason to believe halt -p will behave differently than shutdown -h ?14:14
enoch85hey guys, I have an issue with dependency issues with mysql 5.6 and I don't know how to solve it. I tried to purge mysql* and reinstall but it didn't help and now I get this: http://pastebin.com/5zAwn3jv. And when I try to install again I get this: http://pastebin.com/K1svVqMz14:14
lotuspsychjetriss: you can use the 4.6 wily one for example14:15
trissoh ok... I'll give that a try14:15
Mr_Redtry autoremove and reinstall14:15
geniimort: Since they are both symlinks to systemctl, not really14:15
lotuspsychjemort: try if it works, also F1 to see text on shutdown perhaps?14:15
mortf1 does nothing, but the way I know it just hangs at "Reached target Shutdown" is that I removed the splash kernel option in grub14:17
LopeWhere is there a SHA256SUMS file that includes all of the deb packages?14:17
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enoch85Mr_Red: I've tried autoremove, autoclean, -f install purge, yeah right about everything14:20
Guest95414Hello everyone14:21
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lotuspsychjemort: is this similar for you? https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/systemd/+bug/146491714:22
ubottuLaunchpad bug 1464917 in systemd (Ubuntu) "reboot hangs at 'Reached target Shutdown'" [High,Fix released]14:22
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lotuspsychjeenoch85: did you purge all ppa's with ppapurge first?14:23
lotuspsychjeMonkeyDust: good afternoon14:23
mortshutdown hanging at "Reached target Shutdown" certainly seems like my case14:23
Guest95414How can I connect Jack and Firefox and be able to hear the sound of Youtube, while Jack is running?14:24
mortthough it's not clear if it happens every time he tries to shut down or just sometimes; for me it's only sometimes14:24
Guest95414Youtube doesn't work if Jack is running...14:24
mortalso, according to that, it's fixed in vivid, I'm running xenial and have the issue14:24
lotuspsychjemort: was your 16.04 a clean install or upgrade?14:25
mortclean install14:25
MonkeyDustlotuspsychje  hi14:25
mortwait, no, upgrade from 15.1014:25
mortmy bad14:25
mortI could try to reinstall 16.0414:25
lotuspsychjemort: you can update the bug first, add your experience14:26
enoch85lotuspsychje: no I didn't14:26
mortalright, will do14:26
lotuspsychjemort: some 15.10 and 16.04 reported to be affected also on this bug14:26
enoch85lotuspsychje: would that change anything?14:26
lotuspsychjeenoch85: yes ppapurge removes ppa's & packages aswell14:27
mortubuntu honestly seems to have an annoying amount of these relatively small bugs14:27
lotuspsychjeenoch85: try to set your repos back to original and sudo apt-get update after14:27
enoch85lotuspsychje: thanks, will try14:27
lotuspsychjemort: you could try a 16.04 liveusb, and compare with your current upgrade14:28
enoch85lotuspsychje: right now I'm trying to update to xenial without mysql, and then install a fresh mysql in the new system14:28
enoch85lotuspsychje: everything started to fail when I was about to update... and it was like 4 months since I did the last update14:29
lotuspsychjeenoch85: upgrade from wich version?14:29
lotuspsychje!ltsupgrade | enoch8514:30
ubottuenoch85: Users of 14.04 LTS will be offered the automatic upgrade when 16.04.1 LTS is released, which is scheduled for July 21st.14:30
mortthe problem with trying a live usb is that it only happens now and then, so there's no guarantee I would detect the issue even if it existed by just trying to shutdown a few times14:30
ArabicSoapWhen I install Ubuntu it asks for LVM. What is that? Should I check it?14:30
lotuspsychje!lvm | ArabicSoap14:30
ubottuArabicSoap: Tips and tricks for RAID and LVM can be found on https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Installation/SoftwareRAID and http://www.tldp.org/HOWTO/LVM-HOWTO - For software RAID, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FakeRaidHowto14:30
enoch85lotuspsychje: but ubntu 16.04 is already released... I uphraded several of my servers already14:31
MonkeyDustArabicSoap  LVM means logical volume manager14:31
lotuspsychjeenoch85: thats the the LTS way mate14:31
mika2Can questions be asked that relate to programs installed on ubuntu (post install) or is it unbuntu only?14:31
lotuspsychjemika2: if your main Os is ubuntu sure14:31
mika2cool thx14:32
ArabicSoapMonkeyDust: so should I check it? Will the system run better?14:32
MonkeyDustArabicSoap  'better' depends on what you prefer ... read the links ubottu sent you14:33
MonkeyDustArabicSoap  with lvm you can more easily resize partitions14:33
davemwihey all...curious which if any GIT front-end you would recommend?14:35
mortlearning the command line git client is valuable14:35
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davemwimort, yep, i know...long time command line SVN user...just curious on the front end though.14:36
mika2Well, my problem is : I just installed OpenOffice and everything went smooth afaik, except that when I launch the executable (/opt/OpenOffice4/program/soffice  shell script (if i pick the .bin file it returns an error)) it opens the file with gedit instead of launching the application14:36
MonkeyDustmika2  make it executable, in the permissons14:37
MonkeyDustor properties, rather14:37
arlekinhi there - could anyone help me with touchpad issue ? namely if i close my system having touchpad disabled, on next startup it will assume that it is still disabled, even though my hardware button shows its enabled14:38
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arlekinso now when i press the hardware button it toggles the system state for touchpad also14:38
arlekinso i basically lose touchpad14:38
mika2MonkeyDust : the thing is the properties panel is all grayed out. i'm guessing there's no option left but to do this via terminal?14:39
Ferendevelopmika2: you can make that executable by this command : chmod +x14:39
arlekinin some older version of ubuntu it could be solved by keyboard settings and removing shortcut, but it sin't there now (16.04) and i have no idea if and how to do that by cli14:39
Welastevilhi guys!14:40
Ferendevelopmika2: for example : chmod +x /opt/OpenOffice4/program/soffice14:40
WelastevilIm  having a problem and could not find solution14:41
FerendevelopWelastevil: what problem?14:41
WelastevilE: Syntax error /etc/apt/apt.conf.d/00aptitude:3: Extra junk at end of file14:41
enoch85lotuspsychje: so you mean that I shouldn't upgrade manually to a new LTS release?14:41
mika2right! i'll try that! what's the extension for a shell script file? .sh? it doesn't say14:41
WelastevilI can not download NOTHING directly from ubunt software14:41
ikoniaWelastevil: what have you done to break it14:42
ikoniaWelastevil: what is the error you get14:42
WelastevilnNo idea////14:42
lotuspsychjeenoch85: its your system, i dont need to say what you have to do..but from 14.04 its not recommended yet14:42
FerendevelopWelastevil: rfer this link : http://askubuntu.com/questions/492320/how-to-solve-extra-junk-at-end-of-file-syntax-error-in-01autoremove-kernels14:42
enoch85lotuspsychje: darnit, that explains alot14:42
lotuspsychjeenoch85: espacially for server production, you should stick to 14.0414:43
enoch85lotuspsychje: well, to late... I noticed several bug actually on my production system14:43
Ferendevelopmika2: most shell script's extensions is .sh14:43
enoch85but I will build a new server soon so I guess I will have to install everything from scratch again...*siiigh*14:44
WelastevilI tryed the commands sugested thete14:44
Welastevilsudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get dist-upgrade14:44
enoch85lotuspsychje: or do you think that the errors will be fixed in the newer versions?14:44
Welasteviland got the same error14:44
lotuspsychjeenoch85: 16.04.1 will fix alot im sure14:45
WelastevilE: Syntax error /etc/apt/apt.conf.d/00aptitude:3: Extra junk at end of file14:45
enoch85lotuspsychje: ok, so no need to reinstall then?14:45
enoch85lotuspsychje: I mean, will there be repair steps and stuff?14:45
FerendevelopWelastevil: this command've tried? : sudo /etc/kernel/postinst.d/apt-auto-removal14:45
lotuspsychjeenoch85: your the boss of your machine...14:45
enoch85lotuspsychje: what would you do?14:46
lotuspsychjeenoch85: i would only have 1 server test machine with 16.04 and all the rest for production, stay on 14.0414:46
enoch85lotuspsychje: makes sense14:46
lotuspsychjeenoch85: then use the xenial testserver to test stuff14:46
Welasteviland have the same error14:47
lotuspsychjeenoch85: on 16.04.1 release your servers can get a 'safer' upgrade14:47
enoch85lotuspsychje: ok, fine.. Iäll do that, but what about the original issue. How do I purge mysql and keep the databases? would I need to export them first?14:47
lotuspsychje!es | El14:48
ubottuEl: En la mayoría de los canales de Ubuntu, se habla sólo en inglés. Si busca ayuda en español entre al canal #ubuntu-es; escriba " /join #ubuntu-es " (sin comillas) y presione intro.14:48
enoch85lotuspsychje: I had no issues with the upgrades and the servers are working, but they are working worse than before14:48
lotuspsychjeenoch85: dont let the servers run for production on your upgrades, start over14:49
lotuspsychjeenoch85: backup what you need first14:49
OerHeksenoch85, if you have no backup of sql from your productionserver already, the data is not important14:49
ubottuNous sommes desoles mais ce canal est en anglais uniquement. Si vous avez besoin d'aide ou voulez discuter en français, veuillez taper /join #ubuntu-fr ou /join #ubuntu-qc. Merci.14:50
free-theater-sofhi is there  free theater modelling software, something worst case that simple as "lucas arts"? How could a garage production these days function, having a simple movie or game?14:52
FerendevelopWelastevil: refer this link too : http://www.ceus-now.com/e-syntax-error-etc-apt-apt-conf-d-00aptitude-4-extra-junk-at-end-of-file/14:53
sobczykhi, is there any info how to debug upstart init? I can't get mounted MOUNTPOINT=/sys event triggered14:55
trisshey lotuspsychje, ducasse - just thought I'd let you know 4.6 kernel didn't fix things. Still no pwm control. But thanks very much for help anyway. Think I'm gonna give up for now.14:56
Welastevilalmost solved))14:57
Welastevilnow, whe I try14:57
lotuspsychjetriss: ok mate14:57
Welastevilnow when I try sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get dist-upgrade14:58
WelastevilI have another problem...I'll pastbin it..one momment14:58
CanopusGood morning. Where's the linux source code on the system?14:59
MyrttiCanopus: nowhere by default14:59
Welastevilnow I could install and updat...but anyway, I got this erros!15:00
mika2I still can't execute OpenOffice (still only opening in gedit). These are the current permissions of the file : "-r-xr-xr-x 1 root root     3720 Okt 21  2015 soffice*" Do I still need to change permissions?15:00
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FerendevelopWelastevil: change your apt mirror15:01
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CanopusMyrtti, is it necessary to install a source package?15:01
mika2because from what i can tell, it feels like all user groups should be able to execute the soffice (openoffice) shell script file15:02
MyrttiCanopus: necessary for what?15:02
Canopusto have the linux source code somewhere15:02
\9mika2: what happens if you try to run it?15:03
Welasteviland how do i change ie?15:03
mika29 : all it does is open the file in gedit nothing more15:04
Welastevilhow to change my apt mirror?15:04
FerendevelopWelastevil: refer this link : http://www.google.co.kr/url?sa=t&rct=j&q=&esrc=s&frm=1&source=web&cd=1&ved=0ahUKEwiHlcTQ9ujMAhWlJ6YKHWaoBNoQFggdMAA&url=http%3A%2F%2Faskubuntu.com%2Fquestions%2F37753%2Fhow-can-i-get-apt-to-use-a-mirror-close-to-me-or-choose-a-faster-mirror&usg=AFQjCNEcZAYIjqABEaMC0r92Msja8wl5Fg&bvm=bv.122448493,d.dGY15:05
enoch85OerHeks: lotuspsychje I have a backup on my off-site server so that would work15:05
enoch85would take some time though, like a weekend or sometinng like that15:06
enoch85late night15:06
mika2#  Licensed to the Apache Software" these are the first lines in gedit, which is of not use to me since I just would like to launch the program normally and the permissions seem to be set correctly (?)15:06
tombtcwhat you guys using to make a screenshot and quick upload?15:06
Ferendeveloptombtc: imgur.com15:06
tombtcI mean an app15:07
tombtclike shutter15:07
tombtcwill check out screenfetch15:07
Ferendeveloptombtc: i'm not use app15:07
tombtcso how do you capture your screen?15:07
Ferendeveloptombtc: 'print screen' key15:08
Welastevilit says that websit is offline15:08
tombtcand what app opens?15:08
tombtcafter you press print screen15:08
FerendevelopWelastevil: http://askubuntu.com/questions/37753/how-can-i-get-apt-to-use-a-mirror-close-to-me-or-choose-a-faster-mirror15:08
Welasteviland more this: Error 522 Ray ID: 2a60b289467c2b64 • 2016-05-20 15:07:33 UTC15:08
Ferendeveloptombtc: app? you mean photo viewer app?15:09
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Sagari am getting this error root@wolf:~# sudo systemctl status apache2 => Failed to get properties: Failed to execute program org.freedesktop.systemd1: Permission denied15:09
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tombtcFerendevelop:  what happens after you press print screen?15:09
Welastevilthe same....15:09
Ferendeveloptombtc: save my screen in clipboard15:09
tombtcwhat if you want just a part of your screen?15:10
Ferendeveloptombtc: edit picture in picture edit program15:11
FerendevelopWelastevil: wait a moment plz15:11
tombtcFerendevelop:  try shutter15:11
FerendevelopWelastevil: https://linuxconfig.org/how-to-find-a-fastest-debian-linux-mirror-for-your-etc-apt-sources-list15:12
Ferendeveloptombtc: why? good?15:12
tombtcyea much easier15:12
Ferendeveloptombtc: thx a lot. i will use shutter app15:13
SpookanAnyone knows if xubuntu have sleepmode on by default?15:14
MacroManI'm trying to boot-repair from live usb. I get an error that I have to boot in EFI mode, but my computer is only capable of booting from USB via legacy mode15:15
thesebwhy would 16.04 install FREEZE on an old HP desktop when it ran 14.04 fine?15:15
MacroManDo I have any other options for repairing my boot partition?15:15
MacroMantheseb: Because it's newer packages that may be inconpatible with your system.15:16
ducasseMacroMan: is the installation itself efi or legacy?15:18
MacroManefi I believe15:18
thesebMacroMan: any hope or workaround?15:19
ducasseMacroMan: then how did you install if you can't boot from usb in efi mode?15:19
MacroMantheseb: I'm no expert, but I should imagine you'll have to find out what is causing it to crash.15:19
MacroManducasse: I just booted and installed. It didn't complain at the time.15:20
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MacroManAt least I assume that my drive is installed efi, otherwise boot-repair wouldn't complain15:21
WelastevilE: Package 'netselect-apt' has no installation candidate15:21
ducasseMacroMan: but boot repair complains? if so, that is a problem with boot repair, boot from an ubuntu live usb and repair from that.15:21
FerendevelopWelastevil: oops.15:21
FerendevelopWelastevil: askubuntu link still say error?15:21
MacroManI was afraid you'd say that. I don't have any blank cd's on me :(15:22
thesebMacroMan: when install freezes/fails where/how get hints of issues?15:22
ducasseMacroMan: no, an ubuntu live usb - it should boot fine.15:22
MacroManducasse: That's what I'm using15:23
Larisanyone here speak urdu15:23
Welastevilno! not anymore)))15:23
ducasseMacroMan: that is really odd. have you touched the firmware settings so you're booting in legacy mode now?15:23
Welastevilthanks guys!15:23
FerendevelopWelastevil: good. maybe that link will help you15:24
MacroManducasse: No. I can switch off legacy mode in the bios, but then I can't boot from USB15:24
LarisOerHeks; anything?15:24
OerHeksLaris, #ubuntu-pk pakistan ?15:24
ducasseMacroMan: try turning off secure boot.15:24
LarisOerHeks; are you from pakistan?15:24
OerHeksno, that channel is dedicated, this channel is english only15:25
MacroManducasse: Would my boot dump give any clues?: http://paste.ubuntu.com/16523196/15:25
LarisOerHeks; what do you know about pakistan15:26
herrkinhello awesome community15:26
Sagari am getting this error root@wolf:~# sudo systemctl status apache2 => Failed to get properties: Failed to execute program org.freedesktop.systemd1: Permission denied15:27
Sagaranyone who can help me?15:27
herrkinI have a problem with a stupid gsm modem, I don't know if it is a problem with the modem or if it is usb_modeswitch15:27
OerHeksLaris, this is ubuntu support only.15:27
Welastevilit helps in partes..15:28
ducasseMacroMan: your installation is efi, so you need to boot in efi mode to fix it. i suggest turning off secure boot and see if you can boot from usb then.15:28
FerendevelopWelastevil: some apt mirror say not found?15:28
WelastevilIm stil not able to know which mirror is faster for me here in Russia.15:28
herrkinI have a few modems to test, I find that one specific modem sometimes just wont switch mode to modem,it stays in mass storage mode15:28
MacroManducasse: OK. I'm leaving to reboot and see if I can try that. Thanks15:28
FerendevelopWelastevil: can you show me error log?15:28
Larisherrkin; i need your opinion15:29
herrkinsome times it takes a while and switches, some other times it just wont do it15:29
herrkinLaris, about what?15:29
Larisherrkin; we must do this in private15:29
Larisnot here out in public15:29
OerHeks!ot | Laris wrong channel for opinions and polls15:29
ubottuLaris wrong channel for opinions and polls: #ubuntu is the Ubuntu support channel, for all Ubuntu-related support questions. Please register with NickServ (see /msg ubottu !register) and use #ubuntu-offtopic for other topics (though our !guidelines apply there too). Thanks!15:29
Larisok sorry OerHeks, ill move it elsewhere15:30
anonymous_anyone know if anonymOS is going to get an update from 11.10?15:32
thesebHow get clues when install of 16.04 freezes during install process?15:32
OerHeksanonymous_, not an official ubuntu,w e don't know15:32
FerendevelopWelastevil: you can find change apt mirror function in ubuntu software updater(?)15:32
anonymous_should i update to 16.04 or wait15:33
anonymous_on my main machine15:33
MonkeyDustanonymous_  you question is not for this channel15:33
anonymous_its ubuntu chat yes15:33
anonymous_its an ubuntu question15:33
MonkeyDustanonymous_  type  /topic15:34
anonymous_op is fgt15:34
Archeus_how come my net is working here but not on chrome or firefox ?15:35
OerHeksWelastevil,  netselect-apt is long gone,  intrepid > https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/netselect/0.3.ds1-1215:36
OerHeksSagar, just ask, wait and see15:37
MonkeyDustSagar  anyone what?15:37
nicomachusSagar: I had to scroll up quite a bit to find it. Might as well repost the error you got with Apache15:38
Sagarwho can help me?15:39
Sagari am getting this error root@wolf:~# sudo systemctl status apache2 => Failed to get properties: Failed to execute program org.freedesktop.systemd1: Permission denied15:39
Welastevilwhate ever....big most of the problem solved! thaNSKS GUYS!15:39
Welastevili'LL WORK NOW...15:39
Sagarfor any systemctl command i get that error15:39
nicomachusSagar: well, first of all, why are you using sudo with a root terminal?15:39
MacroManI don't have a secure boot mode :( nor can I boot into efi usb :(15:39
FerendevelopWelastevil: good :D15:40
OerHeksSagar, and without sudo ? systemctl status apache215:40
ducasseMacroMan: well, you've obviously booted in efi mode at some point or you would not have been able to install.15:40
MacroManducasse: Very odd. I installed it originally via this method.15:41
MacroManIn the bios settings, the usb drive is listed under hdd and the only thing under uefi is the actual hdd15:42
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ducasseMacroMan: the only other option i can think of is to convert the installation to legacy.15:43
gyanii am having this issue in which he menus look ancient and silver every time i reboot the device, always have to restart lightdm :(15:44
gyaniubuntu 16.04 lts15:44
gyanican't find much except for an askubuntu that says delete Trolltech.conf from ~/.conf15:44
gyani* ~/.config15:44
sezai_trselam millet15:46
lotuspsychje!tr | sezai_tr15:47
ubottusezai_tr: Turk ubuntu kullanıcıları, Türkçe yardım ya da geyik için /join #ubuntu-tr hizmetinizde.15:47
sezai_trthank you15:48
Sagaranyone who can help me with this?15:49
Sagari am getting this error root@wolf:~# sudo systemctl status apache2 => Failed to get properties: Failed to execute program org.freedesktop.systemd1: Permission denied15:49
MacroManducasse: After some Googling, I may have written the USB image incorrectly. I'm going to try and re-write it with different options.15:49
thesebHow get clues when install of 16.04 freezes during install process?15:50
ducasseMacroMan: that could explain it.15:51
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MacroManAh. When I wrote the image last time, I did it from another ubuntu installation, this time I was using Rufus on windows and I notice that you have to change the partition scheme. Thanks for your help.15:52
MonkeyDusttheseb  start with more details about the freezes, symptoms, which stage of the install process etc15:53
thesebMonkeyDust: at end it says "retreiving file 56 of 56" and never finishes that15:55
thesebMonkeyDust: thanks btw15:55
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FrankFromHRQuestion for the channel, what would you guys suggest I run if I wanted to do virtual machines on a headless ubuntu 16.04 server?15:59
MonkeyDustFrankFromHR  vagrant / virtualbox15:59
OerHeksKVM, LXC, Virtualbox, VMware .. lots of choise15:59
FrankFromHRMonkeyDust: is it possible to install virtualbox without installing X11?15:59
MonkeyDustFrankFromHR  haven't tried that specifically, but start here https://www.vagrantup.com/docs/getting-started/16:00
Sagari am getting this error root@wolf:~# sudo systemctl status apache2 => Failed to get properties: Failed to execute program org.freedesktop.systemd1: Permission denied anyone please can help me?16:01
nicomachusSagar: again. Why are you using sudo in a root terminal?16:01
nicomachuswhat happens if you run that command without sudo?16:02
MonkeyDustFrankFromHR  http://www.vagrantbox.es/16:02
Sagarstill same16:02
Sagarroot@wolf:~# systemctl status apache2 => Failed to get properties: Failed to execute program org.freedesktop.systemd1: Permission denied16:02
nicomachusSagar: what is the ubuntu version?16:03
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SagarUbuntu xenial 16.04 - server16:04
rjonesxis there any way to configure tightvnc server on ubuntu such that it doesn't require SSH tunneling?16:05
rjonesxI want to access it remotely on a VPS, but the config is requring SSH tunneling16:05
MerkidemisI have a fresh install of Ubuntu Server 16.04 and am getting 401 Unauthorized errors whenever I try to do an apt-get update (or any thing on the web, actually).  As far as I can tell I am not behind a proxy.  Any suggestions on steps to resolve?16:05
lotuspsychjerjonesx: not recommended to not use ssh tunneling16:06
thesebMonkeyDust: sorry irc died...any ideas on hints of 16.04 install issues?16:06
lotuspsychje!vnc | rjonesx16:06
ubotturjonesx: VNC is a protocol for remote desktop. https://help.ubuntu.com/community/VNCOverSSH describes how to use it securely.  It works best over fast connections, otherwise look at !FreeNX16:06
MerkidemisThough it seems to work fine for https....16:07
nicomachusSagar: checking. you might also try #ubuntu-server, FYI16:07
Sagarno one replies in there16:07
Sagartried already16:07
OerHeksSagar, i couln't find any logic for that, seems like a PAM issue16:07
MonkeyDusttheseb  not really, repeat the question and details in the channel16:07
OerHekspam - Pluggable Authentication Module16:08
FrankFromHRMonkeyDust: Thanks I'll have a look at Vagrant16:08
lotuspsychjetheseb: try the live mode for ubuntu, and try an install from there?16:09
NotDislikedOn Ubuntu 16.04 my laptop looses control of its fans, it only turns them off or maxes them out.  This issue isn't present on 15.10.  Any ideas?  It's incredibly obnoxious and disruptive.16:09
lotuspsychjetheseb: and perhaps disable updates from setup16:09
theseblotuspsychje: did that many times.....EVERY time I install 16.04 on this old HP desktop it freezes at "Retreiving file 56 of 56"..I disabled updates and 3rd party proprietary and still same!16:10
theseblotuspsychje: it ran 14.04 fine for years16:10
theseblotuspsychje: i'm guessing 16.04 discards support for old hardware16:10
nacctheseb: are you sure it's freezing?16:10
lotuspsychjetheseb: did you md5 the iso?16:10
rubenwardyHow do I find out if my laptop uses 32bit or 64bit UEFI? From Windoze16:11
MonkeyDustrubenwardy  better ask in ##windows16:11
lotuspsychjerubenwardy: most recent machines are 64bit16:11
OerHeksrubenwardy, linux supports 64 bit UEFI only AFAIK16:11
rubenwardyThe webpage says there's a complicated workaround for 32bit16:12
rubenwardyI really hope I don't have 32bit16:12
theseblotuspsychje: yes on sha1sum16:12
OerHeksrubenwardy,  check your cpu, if that is 64, bit, you are fine16:12
thesebnacc: well i left it overnight16:12
lotuspsychjetheseb: other usb stick test?16:12
ducasseOerHeks: there's a 32-bit grub-efi package.16:12
theseblotuspsychje: well the same usb stick worked on a laptop16:12
rubenwardyI have a 64bit CPU. I've read that sometimes they package a 32bit UEFI to save money16:13
OerHeksducasse, oh, nice to know16:13
the_ghostNotDisliked: Do you have 32bit or 64bit version installed?16:13
lotuspsychjetheseb: hmm thats weird, perhaps try bios set to defaults16:13
OerHeksrubenwardy, then it comes with 32 bit windows16:13
NotDislikedthe_ghost: 64-bit16:13
rubenwardyoh, ok: so if both windows and cpu are 64bit, then I'm fine16:14
enoch85lotuspsychje: another issue when trying to install php7.0-dev: The following packages have unmet dependencies:16:14
enoch85 php7.0-dev : Depends: libpcre3-dev but it is not going to be installed16:14
lotuspsychjetheseb: can you read the error on those freezing steps?16:14
enoch85lotuspsychje: any way to solve it?16:14
Sagari just reinstall dbus and worked fine16:14
Sagarnicomachus? OerHeks? Thanks for the help though :)16:14
OerHeksSagar, oh good find16:14
lotuspsychjeenoch85: from where are you installing php7?16:14
theseblotuspsychje: there isn't any....err...WHERE see the errors?16:15
lotuspsychjetheseb: you can click to see details on the install window16:15
tgm4883OerHeks: linux supports 32-bit UEFI as well. Ubuntu doesn't build the AMD64 ISO for it, so it's slightly more complicated to get going16:15
OerHekstgm4883, noticed, i had to update my old info16:16
lotuspsychjeenoch85: you got ppa's enabled?16:16
tgm4883rubenwardy: what laptop?16:16
ducasseis there a install log vc on the desktop image or just on server?16:16
theseblotuspsychje: when i click on SKIP it showed a window..is that what you mean?16:16
nicomachusSagar: glad it's working.16:16
lotuspsychjetheseb: erm, at wich point exactly things go wrong?16:16
rubenwardyasus x555la (the x555lab variety). i5-5200U@2.2GHz 8GB Ram, 1TB, 1920x108016:17
rubenwardytgm4883 ^16:17
enoch85lotuspsychje: I removed the ppa from sources.list.d/16:17
enoch85lotuspsychje: isnt that enough?16:17
lotuspsychje!ppapurge | enoch85 no16:17
ubottuenoch85 no: To disable a PPA from your sources and revert your packages back to default Ubuntu packages, install ppa-purge and use the command: « sudo ppa-purge ppa:<repository-name>/<subdirectory> » – For more information, see http://www.webupd8.org/2009/12/remove-ppa-repositories-via-command.html16:17
tgm4883rubenwardy: AFAIK, it's just the bay trail stuff that has a 32-bit UEFI, mostly embedded stuff16:18
the_ghostNotDisliked: can you install (sudo apt-get install lm-sensors) and then (sudo sensors-detect) and answer yes to all. After that run (sensors) and share your temperature readings.16:18
NotDislikedthe_ghost: allow me to test that really quick16:19
theseblotuspsychje: it nuked drive....copied bunch of stuff and stopped at "Retrieving file 56 of 56"16:20
the_ghostNotDisliked: Most of these issues come from the GPU getting hot not the CPU. If that is the case, your issue is probably related to nvidia driver issues.16:20
lotuspsychjetheseb: or you cloning or real installing?16:20
Sagarservice apache2 start16:21
Sagardoesn't show any output why?16:21
Sagarubuntu 1616:21
theseblotuspsychje: fresh install16:21
theseblotuspsychje: just so you see i'm not crazy...someone else had similar...see this http://askubuntu.com/questions/774967/installation-is-retrieving-file-56-of-56-for-ages16:22
Sagar service apache2 start doesn't show any output, i am on ubuntu 16.04 xenial16:23
enoch85lotuspsychje: I tried to remove it tih ppa.purge but it says that it don't exist16:23
lotuspsychjetheseb: are you installing with wifi or cable?16:23
jq-Sagar: That's usually a good thing16:23
theseblotuspsychje: cable16:23
jq-Sagar: Usually only shows errors on start16:24
lotuspsychjetheseb: try an offline install16:24
Sagarjq- : it should show16:24
Sagarapache2 starting ... [ok]16:24
Sagarsomething like that?16:24
jq-Sagar: No16:24
Sagarit used to16:24
jq-The way I know apache started is that it doesn't not show something16:24
davemwihow does service management work on ubuntu/debian... used to 'service [servicename] stop|start|restart|etc...'16:24
jq-I mean wut16:24
gecko_x2hello, how can i install this package? https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/libsecp256k116:25
jq-My point is, nothing showing is good16:25
gecko_x2what repo is it=??16:25
MonkeyDustdavemwi  sudo service [blah] start|stop etc16:25
gecko_x2damn wasted hours on this16:25
davemwiMonkeyDust, oh...same, huh...16:25
davemwiMonkeyDust, ahhhh 'apache2'16:25
davemwii was going with httpd16:26
lotuspsychjegecko_x2: what you need it for?16:26
gecko_x2lotuspsychje i just need it16:26
gecko_x2but i don't understand16:26
gecko_x2why i can't find which repo it is in ANYWHERE16:26
Lopewhat arm architectures is xenial built for?16:26
gecko_x2why is this so damn difficult16:26
MonkeyDustLope  better ask in #ubuntu-arm16:26
lotuspsychjegecko_x2: help us understand wich program you need it for16:27
gecko_x2how hard can it be16:27
gecko_x2no lotuspsychje16:27
gecko_x2i just need it installed16:27
gecko_x2that's all16:27
gecko_x2can anyone16:27
gecko_x2how the hell can i get that installed16:27
gecko_x2i've searched for hours and hours16:27
enoch85lotuspsychje: how do I list all the installed ppas?16:27
theseblotuspsychje: i installed from usb stick..is that offline?16:28
enoch85lotuspsychje: or active ppas16:28
nicomachusgecko_x2: first step: chill. calm down. stop swearing.16:28
theseblotuspsychje: how do "offline"?16:28
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MonkeyDust!find libsecp16:28
ubottuPackage/file libsecp does not exist in xenial16:28
lotuspsychjetheseb: no, disable cable and wifi16:28
davemwiMonkeyDust, thanks!16:28
lotuspsychjegecko_x2: that url shows only a 16.10 package16:28
MonkeyDustdavemwi  glad i could help16:29
nicomachuslotuspsychje: it only shows BUGS for a yakkety package.16:29
nicomachusoh wait16:30
nicomachusignore me16:30
rubenwardyIs the process for installing xubuntu 15.04 on a UEFI laptop the same as installing ubuntu 15.04?16:30
nicomachusrubenwardy: you shouldn't be installing 15.0416:30
MonkeyDustnicomachus  i've been ignoring you for days now16:31
rubenwardy15.04 is the latest xubuntu16:31
gecko_x2i tried compiling16:31
theseblotuspsychje: how do that?16:31
gecko_x2doesn't work for the binary that needs it16:31
nicomachus!15.04 | rubenwardy16:31
ubotturubenwardy: Ubuntu 15.04 (Vivid Vervet) was the 22nd release of Ubuntu. Support ended on February 4, 2016. See !eol, !eolupgrade and http://ubottu.com/y/vivid16:31
gecko_x2i get illegal flags16:31
squintyrubenwardy, 16.0416:31
nillawaferrubenwardy: 16.0416:31
lotuspsychjetheseb: unplug your cable from your pc? dont enter a wifi password and proceed with ubuntu setup16:31
rubenwardyoh, they did release a new one16:31
nicomachusrubenwardy: https://xubuntu.org/news/release/16-04/16:31
theseblotuspsychje: ok16:31
rubenwardyok, same question but for 16.0416:31
theseblotuspsychje: thanks16:32
nicomachusyea it's the same.16:32
Sagar service apache2 start doesn't show any output like it used to starting/running .... apache2 [ok], i am on ubuntu 16.04 xenial16:33
gecko_x2so nobody knows16:35
nicomachus!patience | gecko_x216:35
ubottugecko_x2: Don't feel ignored and repeat your question quickly; if nobody knows your answer, nobody will answer you. While you wait, try searching https://help.ubuntu.com or http://ubuntuforums.org or http://askubuntu.com/16:35
lotuspsychjeSagar: https://help.ubuntu.com/lts/serverguide/httpd.html16:36
lotuspsychjegecko_x2: the package you want is for 16.10...16:36
gecko_x2lotuspsychje oic..16:36
lotuspsychjegecko_x2: you cant go mix package versions16:36
lotuspsychjegecko_x2: so tell us what you need it for now? bitcoin stuff?16:37
nicomachusgecko_x2: from the github page you linked "This library is a work in progress and is being used to research best practices. Use at your own risk.16:37
lotuspsychjegecko_x2: wich package?16:37
gecko_x2i know i know16:37
nillawafergecko_x2: There's not really any advice to offer since the package is only available for 16.10.16:37
gecko_x2i've had it working before16:37
nicomachusI mean, you could install a testing version of yakkety if you really wanted to.16:37
gecko_x2what is yakkety16:38
lotuspsychjegecko_x2: there are some bitcoint libs in apt-cache search bitcoin16:38
MonkeyDust!find libsecp yakkety16:38
ubottuFound: libsecp256k1-0, libsecp256k1-dev16:38
gecko_x2yeah i dunno16:39
MonkeyDust!info libsecp256k1-0 yakkety16:39
ubottulibsecp256k1-0 (source: libsecp256k1): library for EC operations on curve secp256k1. In component universe, is optional. Version 0.1~20160216-3 (yakkety), package size 107 kB, installed size 188 kB16:39
lotuspsychjegecko_x2: do you know what you want?16:39
glassanyone got time to explain "Suggested packages:16:39
glass  doc-base16:39
glass" - how do i find out why i should install that package? and why not force install that package with the same command?16:39
gecko_x2lotuspsychje i've had this wallet working before16:40
glasssorry forgot to modify the copy and paste and split lines.16:40
Piciglass: do you want some documentation for your packages that you will probably never read? It will take up hd space which depending on your device may or may not be a problem.16:40
lotuspsychjegecko_x2: thats not very informative for us16:40
gecko_x2i try to compile it, or run the previously compiled binary i get [secp256k1] illegal argument invalid flags16:41
lotuspsychjegecko_x2: compile what16:41
gecko_x2a wallet16:41
lotuspsychjegecko_x2: packagename?16:41
gecko_x2obsolete and old16:41
gecko_x2i can't tell you16:41
gecko_x2i can't16:41
gecko_x2dont' mind that16:41
glassthanks pici: i see it now i didnt read the name of the package close enough to put 2 and 2 together.16:41
gecko_x2lotuspsychje it's not a package in repos or anything16:42
lotuspsychjegecko_x2: ok, install 16.10 compile it there and grab the file you need16:42
gecko_x2lotuspsychje how can i install 16.10?16:42
gecko_x2i have no idea16:42
lotuspsychjegecko_x2: see #ubuntu+116:42
gecko_x2is 16.04 current?16:43
lotuspsychjegecko_x2: keep in mind its still in developing phase16:43
Exterminadorhello.. how can i give access to a folder and sub folders to any user?16:43
gecko_x2is there some older ubuntu or debian distro that has this16:43
gecko_x2it's years old16:43
gecko_x2libsecp256k is years old16:43
cjhey folks.  I need some help with a preseeded install...16:43
nillawafergecko_x2: http://cdimage.ubuntu.com/ubuntu-server/daily/current/16:43
Piciglass: packages get 3 levels of dependencies. 1) Dependencies, these pacakges are required for your package to function. 2) Recommended: These often provide extra functionality. 3) Suggested: These are extra things that might improve the use of the package or work nicely with it.  I generally disable recommended and suggests on my server installs, unless I have an excess of free disk space.16:43
cjThe installer is telling me that no kernel is available16:44
james1138Hello all. Can I ask for help? For some unknown reason - when I go into Synaptic Package Manager and click on "Repositories" - nothing happens.16:44
gecko_x2nillawafer thx16:44
Sagarrm -rf #ubuntu/*16:44
tpw_rulesis there any way to adjust ubuntu's cache settings? i had to copy an 8GB file to a thumbdrive. the first half went at like 300MB/s as it filled the RAM from my SSD. The rest went at like 5. It also took a long time to unmount because the large cache had to be flushed16:45
nillawafergecko_x2: http://cdimage.ubuntu.com/daily-live/current/16:45
nillawafergecko_x2: I accidentally sent you the server link earlier16:45
glasspici: can you pastebin that modification? (i dont want to implement just see how you did it.)16:46
Sagarinitctl: Unable to connect to Upstart: Failed to connect to socket /com/ubuntu/upstart: Connection refused16:46
Sagarwhat is wrong?16:46
LopeI can't find any ARM packages in Ubuntu's repos? and I found this page which says you can install armhf Xenial 16.04. But there's nothing there? https://help.ubuntu.com/lts/installation-guide/armhf/pr01.html16:46
lotuspsychjegecko_x2: https://github.com/bitcoin-core/secp256k116:47
nicomachusSagar: I thought you were on 16.04?16:47
SagarYes i am on 16.0416:47
nicomachusSagar: 16.04 uses systemd instead of Upstart.16:47
MonkeyDustLope  better ask in #ubuntu-arm16:47
LopeMonkeyDust: nobody there to talk ot16:48
Sagarnicomachus: i am having the issue16:48
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luxbox5235Hi, wondering if it is possible to install yakkety yak into an old box which has geforce fx 5200 graphics card, if so how do I go about doing it or would I need to install an older version such as lucid lynx16:48
squintyjames1138,  fwiw, clicking on repositories works here.....seems to just open the Software and Updates which also can be accessed via the dash16:48
Sagarmy service apache2 status is not showing any output like it used to16:48
Sagarit happened after i reinstalled dbus16:48
Sagarany idea?16:48
lotuspsychjeluxbox5235: #ubuntu+1 please16:49
Lopeinterestingly the release file shows ARM is available for 16.04 http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/dists/xenial/Release16:49
Piciglass: sure. I added a /etc/apt/apt.conf.d/02recommends file containing just this: http://paste.ubuntu.com/16526219/16:49
Piciglass: alternatively there is the --no-install-recommendeds switch for apt-get16:49
james1138Clicked on Software and Updates - no response.16:50
glasspici: i am starting to learn linux runs on .conf files =)16:51
james1138The only thing I can think maybe the problem was installing ICECAT browser... which may added Trisquel PPA/dependiences.16:51
sowhywhere are you from16:52
sowhyif someone here?16:52
MonkeyDustsowhy  this is ubuntu support16:52
sowhyi know16:52
MonkeyDustsowhy  type /j #ubuntu-offtopic for nice social chat16:53
sowhyi want to learn something16:53
sowhymy English is poor ,sorry16:54
sowhyi am noly a middle school student from Chian16:54
nicomachussowhy: this channel is not for chat. Support only. Join #ubuntu-offtopic for chat.16:55
sowhyoh i know what you say16:56
sowhythank you very much16:56
nicomachusSagar: no idea, sorry.16:56
glassdumb question. #if a advanced CLI user used "fish" and had for a while, shared the .bash_history with a new linux CLI user. do you think the new user would benefit from the auto completion function of fish more?16:57
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sowhyhow can I down ubuntu17:00
sara_hi I am wondering if anyone knows what the fix was for page orientation settings when printing with brother printers, I think its been resolved in Ubuntu, right now I am using opensuse so I would like to manually try the same fix whatever that was if possible...thanks in advance17:00
sowhyif every body can answer my question?17:01
nicomachussowhy: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Releases17:01
sowhywhat the chat room about ubuntu17:02
nicomachusthis is. there is also #ubuntu-cn for chinese.17:02
sara_sowhy you need to burn the iso using something like nero, or k3b dont copy image to cd but instead have it burn the image to the cd17:02
brunch875!cn | sowhy17:02
ubottusowhy: 如欲獲得中文的協助,請輸入 /join #ubuntu-cn 或 /join #ubuntu-tw17:02
squintysowhy, http://www.ubuntu.com/desktop/ubuntu-kylin17:02
sowhythank you17:03
sara_to the dvd rather17:03
sara_cdroms are too small you need dvd I think17:03
reisiousb stick would be simplest17:04
madwizardafterdesign: Poniewaz, jak powiedzialem, to ma sens tylko na poziomie religii. I on jest skierowany do ludzi, ktorzy czytaj go na poziomie religii17:05
madwizardNot here17:05
* blacpythoz Hello17:08
reisiohi x17:08
blacpythozfirst time here17:09
blacpythozfeeling Wierd~~17:09
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nicomachusblacpythoz: welcome. this is the ubuntu support channel, for any support questions. chat can be had in #ubuntu-offtopic17:14
reisionow there's a useful comment, after five minutes of silence17:15
nicomachusi try...17:16
enoch85lotuspsychje: are you there? I tried to remove the ppa but all I get is this: http://pastebin.com/W6uC0Y1717:25
OerHeksenoch85, seems like you have no ondrej ppa in /etc/apt/sources.list.d17:30
OerHeksmaybe some other ppa?17:30
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MonkeyDustenoch85  install inxi ... then type   inxi -r   <-- -r for repos17:36
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enoch85MonkeyDust: thanks, will try that17:40
mate|77930Hello, anyone able to help configuring a touch screen?17:40
enoch85OerHeks: no, I manually deleted them, but that should be enough right? why haven't they disappeared from the packages?17:41
OerHeksenoch85, if you manually deleted that file, the packages remain17:41
OerHeksppa-purge reverses that17:41
OerHeksso, add the ppa again,a nd use ppa-purge17:41
enoch85here are the repos MonkeyDust http://pastebin.com/rQPziQNX17:43
enoch85OerHeks: ok, but how to remove the packages? I tried autoremove, clean, purge everything17:44
firmani use xenial xerus, my ipad detected just as camera, how to fix it? Help please and thx17:44
OerHeksenoch85, told you: add ppa again, use ppa purge, then you would have standard php717:44
OerHeksand you can remove that17:44
enoch85OerHeks: check this out: http://pastebin.com/PeSTe3Bk17:45
mate|77930I'm using 16.04, touch screen works but where I touch is off by almost an inch.  Trying to find a way to calibrate and fix this..  :D17:45
BlackVenomHey folks17:45
BlackVenomIs it possible to undo a rm command?17:46
enoch85OerHeks: problem is that the ppa is deceperated, it was ppa:ondrej/php7.0 and now it is ppa:ondrej/php17:46
OerHeksenoch85, you will keep funny errors, untill you cleaned that ppa from your system.17:46
enoch85does that make any difference OerHeks17:46
OerHeksi don't know, enoch85 , we warn against ppa's.17:46
k1lBlackVenom: not really.17:48
BlackVenomOK not to worry17:48
BlackVenomIt wasn't to important anyways17:48
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k1lBlackVenom: you could try to scan the hdd for parts that are not overwritten already, but that is a lot of effort17:48
ducasseBlackVenom: try extundelete17:49
enoch85ok OerHeks your sulution worked, install and then purge17:49
BlackVenomk1l it was only a log file that'll be recreated soon enough so nothing too major17:49
OerHeksenoch85, have fun!17:50
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BlackVenomI didn't know if rm simply moved it to a trash folder somewhere that was periodically deleted17:50
k1lBlackVenom: the trash folder is a gui thing17:51
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_3by8I need some help mounting a VMWare HGFS share from a Windows host so that file permissions don't all get squashed to root. I've been told that changes to the fstab in regards to the UID might help. Any ideas?17:54
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Powerlessmy chrome wont print anything  it prints a blank page. does anyone know why?17:59
_3by8Powerless: have you tried printing more than one page?17:59
_3by8Powerless: I mean from other domains.17:59
Powerless_3by8,  yes.only mozilla prints18:00
Powerless_3by8,  it only happens with pdf18:00
_3by8Powerless: how many different domains have you tried printing from?18:00
_3by8Powerless: try saving the PDF first and then print it.18:00
Powerlessit saves a blank page18:01
_3by8Powerless: save the PDF in Firefox first.18:02
mate|74970I apologize that I forget who gave me the link to calibrate touch screen.. but it worked perfectly. thank you so mu ch18:02
_3by8Powerless: where did you install Chrome from?18:02
_3by8Powerless: could you maybe share the link you're trying to print?18:02
Powerless_3by8, im afraid not..from chrome website18:03
_3by8Powerless: have you tried downloading the PDF using Firefox or the commandline utility wget?18:04
_3by8How large is the PDF file that you've downloaded on your disk?18:04
Powerless_3by8, actually i dont wanna download it..it just opens on my chrome and i click to print it18:05
_3by8Can't help you then.18:05
Powerless_3by8, i havent tried this wget18:06
OerHeksPowerless, to print, you will need to sve to disk first18:06
StiwardHi, i have a problem running win 7 in virtual box, said me "VT-x is disabled in the BIOS for all CPU modes (VERR_VMX_MSR_ALL_VMX_DISABLED).   Código Resultado:  NS_ERROR_FAILURE (0x80004005) Componente:  ConsoleWrap Interfaz:  IConsole {872da645-4a9b-1727-bee2-5585105b9eed}"18:06
EriC^^Stiward: go to the bios and enable vt-x18:06
EriC^^i had to enable vt-x to use 64bit iso's in vbox18:07
rafgasHello all, my ubuntu won't boot correctly unless I go through "recovery mode" and do dpkg in there(even though dpkg does nothing)18:07
OerHeksPowerless, that is why ubuntu/linux is safe, no funn print access from a browser18:07
EriC^^rafgas: try booting it without quiet splash to see the output while it boots18:07
rafgasEric^^: just add - - quiet splash in boot line?18:08
PowerlessOerHeks, but i can download anything I want but PDF using chrome and I download everything from other browsers18:08
EriC^^rafgas: no just remove quiet splash18:08
StiwardEriC^^: thanks, i got one question,  When I entered the center this did not load software window and installed updates18:09
rafgasAh, doing that now18:09
_3by8Powerless try downloading the PDF with wget. The syntax is simply wget http://www.yoururlhere.com/yourpdf.pdf18:09
EriC^^Stiward: didn't get what you meant18:09
OerHeksPowerless, then don't save it to disk, your choise18:09
rafgasI've noticed that shutting down takes longer than before also18:10
StiwardEriC^^: ??18:10
Powerless_3by8, i dont know how :/18:10
EriC^^Stiward: i didn't understand what you meant, what center?18:10
StiwardEriC^^: sorry, ubuntu software center18:10
_3by8Powerless: do you know how to use the terminal?18:10
Powerless_3by8, yes18:11
EriC^^Stiward: there's a button at the top that says updates18:11
_3by8Powerless: simply type the command 'wget' followed by the URL of the PDF file18:11
EriC^^Stiward: if you click it it should show them18:11
StiwardEriC^^: yes but that window not load18:11
rafgasEric : I see a long list of [   OK   ], and then "welcome to emergency mode"18:12
EriC^^Stiward: hmm what happens, i've no idea about this honestly18:12
EriC^^rafgas: does it say why18:12
Powerless_3by8, i have no problem vizualizing it. my pdf viewer opens and i can see it. I just can see when i click to print it and it opens the preview of the print you know?18:13
rafgasThere is an option to "type journalctl -xb"  to view system logs, should I do that?18:13
EriC^^rafgas: yeah why not18:13
StiwardEriC^^: And how advisable it is to use solidworks, photoshop and Illustrator with virtualbox in ubuntu?18:14
_3by8Powerless: we've already determined that you can print other PDF documents from other domains, correct?18:14
Powerless_3by8, no, i cant. not on chrome at least18:15
EriC^^Stiward: never tried it18:15
mate|74970photoshop?  I'm a bit of a newbie but why not use gimp and see what you can do with that?18:15
rafgasEric^^: ACPI warning...  Something about type mismatch. That's all I see that looks like an error or similar18:15
EriC^^rafgas: ok, try booting into an older kernel18:16
StiwardEriC^^:last question, in the bios, to enable vt-x; the option to enable it apear like "vt-x"?18:16
ducassePowerless: chrome is a google product, we support ubuntu.18:16
_3by8Powerless: do you also have Adobe Acrobat installed?18:16
Powerless_3by8, if click to save as PDF it shows but if i choose my printer is shows blank18:16
tewardStiward: unadvisable for SOlidWorks.  It'll be slow for Photoshop and Illustrator.18:16
tewardStiward: the BIOS option varies system to system18:17
EriC^^when you highlight the older kernel press "e" and go to the line at the bottom that says linux /boot/vmlinuz and see if there are any acpi_osi stuff in it18:17
EriC^^Stiward: yeah enable vt-x or virtualization18:17
tewardStiward: it may be "Enable VT-X" or "Expose virtualization to guests", or similar18:17
_3by8Powerless: do you have Acrobat installed?18:17
rafgasTried that Eric: a few lines down it says "nvidia-persistenced [694] : shutdown.18:17
Powerlessducasse, make a browser that does everything I need and ill move to it18:17
StiwardEriC^^: thanks18:17
Powerless_3by8, nope18:18
EriC^^Stiward: no problem18:18
F2KnightHas anyone here ever use keepalived?18:18
rafgasPerhaps boot through recovery and downgrade nvidia driver?18:18
EriC^^rafgas: yeah good idea18:18
Stiwardteward: and why slow for photoshop and illustrator?, solidworks not need more resourses?18:18
_3by8Powerless: have you tried resetting the browser's settings?18:19
Powerless_3by8, i just installed it.. its flesh :P18:19
tewardStiward: three of my engineering buddies tried it in VBox, unless you are able to give 6GB RAM minimum to the guest, SolidWorks doesn't like working right.  Same "slowness" for Photoshop/Illustrator as well18:19
Powerless_3by8, linux i mean18:19
_3by8Powerless: okay, have you tried opening it in an incognito window?18:19
ducassePowerless: the fact that you need it doesn't make it any more supported here.18:20
Powerlessducasse, you use linux and only linux or do you install programs on it?18:21
Powerless_3by8, yes18:21
_3by8Powerless: what he's saying is that this is actually a Chrome issue and he'd be right.18:21
Stiwardteward: my maximum RAM capacity of 8GB or well that is what brings my computer18:21
MonkeyDustPowerless  linux programs are different from windows programs18:21
Stiwardteward: it is sufficient that?18:22
Powerless_3by8, ok thanks I will try somewhere else :) i appreciate it18:22
tewardStiward: personal experience suggests it may be but i don't think it'll be effectively fast for your host (the less ram available to the host, the slower it gets)18:23
EriC^^Stiward: why dont you dual boot?18:23
rafgasEric : still a no-go with downgraded nvidia driver18:24
rubywardenIs it possible to make a DVD-R which is UEFI only? Or can you only do that with USBs?18:24
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argon__good evening18:24
rafgasEric : now it says this "no ACPI video bus found"18:25
aladiahAfter  a few Lubuntu 15.10 updates and a long term with out using pc, my dual boot laptop lubuntu 15.10/windows 10, keyboard dont work on login screen to insert password. On windows work perfectly. I tryed a usb lubuntu live persistent, but is same thing keyboard dont work.18:25
Stiwardteward: can u explain me that please?18:25
rafgasEric^^: I'll take a picture and link it here18:26
EriC^^rafgas: what kernel line is being used in grub?18:27
StiwardEriC^^: I dont like windows, but if i use dual boot that will not lower the performance of my computer compared if only tubiera ubuntu?18:27
rafgas Hold on, I'll check18:27
ducasserubywarden: should be possible with a dvd, the ubuntu images are just iso images. should still work on a dvd without the mbr.18:28
StiwardEriC^^: I dont like windows, but if i use dual boot that will not lower the performance of my computer compared if only have ubuntu?18:28
rubywardenducasse, it's possible to make a USB iso which won't allow you to accidentally boot it in BIOS legacy18:29
rubywardenby formating it as FAT32 or something18:29
EriC^^Stiward: no it won't affect ubuntu other than using up space on the hdd18:29
rubywardenI guess it doesn't matter that much18:29
EriC^^Stiward: the performance compared to using a vm will be huge though18:29
ducasserubywarden: should work fine.18:30
StiwardEriC^^: And why its better the dual boot compared to the virtual box?18:30
urukhow to save ubuntu unity session?18:31
MonkeyDusturuk  it's a gconf setting18:31
EriC^^Stiward: cause virtualbox you're already running an os, and running another os virtualized in it, you're already using resources on the host, less ram, graphic card, etc18:31
EriC^^Stiward: those programs do a lot of rendering, they need as much cpu/graphics/ram as possible18:32
ducasserubywarden: an iso image uses el torito to store an mbr, but should work just fine with just an efi system partition.18:32
urukmonkeyDust I have ubuntu 15.10 and conpizconfig how to save unity sessions18:32
argon__rafgas: you got it working?18:33
aladiahsome expert lubuntu can help me ? After  a few Lubuntu 15.10 updates and a long term with out using pc, my dual boot laptop lubuntu 15.10/windows 10, keyboard dont work on login screen to insert password. On windows work perfectly. I tryed a usb lubuntu live persistent, but is same thing keyboard dont work.18:33
EriC^^rubywarden: just put the dvd in a microwave for 1 sec, it should fry the mbr and leave it uefi bootable (j/k)18:33
rafgasArgon : no, trying to make imgur work for me so I can show what I see18:33
MonkeyDusturuk  install dconf-editor ... in it, go to      org.gnome.SessionManager18:34
StiwardEriC^^: mmm but I managed to run these programs, not virtalbox in ubuntu; these would be more efficient than ubuntu windows or not?18:35
EriC^^Stiward: i didn't understand what you meant18:35
rafgasEric : what am I looking for in the kernel line?18:35
EriC^^rafgas: anything out of the ordinary18:36
EriC^^this is ordinary /boot/vmlinuz-4.6.0-040600rc6-generic root=UUID=dfb3a391-d38c-4468-a62b-68d02ac2504a ro quiet splash $vthandoff18:37
urukMonkeyDust SessionManager not exists in org>gnome>18:37
zykotick9rafgas: fyi, you can use "cat /proc/cmdline" to see your current kernel line in use...18:37
MonkeyDusturuk  have you opened dconf-editor?18:38
rafgasEriC^^: nothing strange here... Except it says $vt_handoff18:39
StiwardEriC^^: those programs are work better in ubuntu than in windows (but without use virtualbox)?18:39
MonkeyDusturuk  click on org, then gnome, then gnome-session18:39
EriC^^Stiward: they dont exist in ubuntu, they have counterparts though, gimp instead of photoshop, freecad instead of solidworks, and libre draw i think instead of illustrator18:40
EriC^^not sure how close freecad is to solidworks, i think it's parametrized and has infinitesimal analysis/meshes18:40
urukok org>gnome>gnome-session>auto-save-session thanks monkeyDust18:40
EriC^^also there's inkscape that's like illustrator18:41
rafgasEriC^^: http://imgur.com/1t6xGT318:41
uruki probe18:41
auctusin ubuntu 16.04, on my laptop, itll often say on boot "fixing recursive fault but reboot is necessary", then a bunch of other stuff and it just freezes -- but if i choose the boot option 'upstart', that works fine, fixes the filesystem or whatever (cause i did i hard shutdown), and then if i reboot ubuntu will boot normally... it just cant seem to do its journal repairing stuff that way18:41
auctuslaptop is an hp 6910p if it matters, core2duo t770018:42
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EriC^^looks fine rafgas18:42
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EriC^^rafgas: try to add "nomodeset" instead of quiet splash18:43
rafgasEriC^^: will do (what does that do?)18:43
darko0Hey guys! I'm thinking of setting up a ubuntu server for webhosting on Linode and currently my main concern is security setup.. Could anyone point me in the right direction to set that up a guide/tool or whatever18:44
EriC^^rafgas: it's like low graphics mode18:45
MonkeyDustdarko0  there's also #ubuntu-server18:45
darko0oh thx!18:45
rafgasEriC^^: same results...18:45
darko0bb :)18:45
EriC^^rafgas: ok boot the recovery mode18:45
EriC^^can you get a gui from there with the failsafe option?18:46
urukmonkeyDust i probe it dconf for save sessions and doesn't work18:46
MonkeyDusturuk  ok, then i don't know18:46
_3by8Does anyone know how an HGFS share is automatically mounted? Which script is responsible for that if I have an HGFS share on a Windows host and Linux guest?18:46
rafgasEriC^^: i don't see  failsafe option, resume, clean etc, but no failsafe18:47
EriC^^ok try enable networking18:47
EriC^^then drop to root shell18:47
EriC^^rafgas: how did the problem start?18:48
urukI have 9 workareas with diferents backgrounds and ubuntu 15.10 and compizconfig and i want save session in all workareas this is possible?18:48
rafgasNormal update software, reboot and boink18:48
argon__rafgas: have you had a look at the logs+18:48
rafgasEriC^^: in root now18:48
rafgasWith net18:49
EriC^^rafgas: ok, type tail /var/log/apt/history.log | nc termbin.com 999918:49
rafgasargon__: I looked at some logs, not sure which I should look at18:49
rafgasWill do EriC^^18:49
rafgasEriC^^: jfgh18:51
argon__the log for your pacakage manager probably, apt18:51
mikele7777hello dears18:51
rafgasEriC^^: that is what I did earlier, downgraded nvidia18:52
EriC^^rafgas: oh18:52
argon__rafgas: try this command and have a look at the driver in use lshw -c video18:52
EriC^^rafgas: try cat /var/log/apt/history.log | nc termbin.com 999918:52
urukhow to know all windows opens and positions in desktops unity from terminal?18:52
EriC^^argon__: he's not in x yet18:52
_3by8Does anyone know how an HGFS share is automatically mounted? Which script is responsible for that if I have an HGFS share on a Windows host and Linux guest?18:53
argon__Oh, then we have a problem18:53
rafgasEriC^^: cpi918:54
rafgas(í can't scroll up the screen)18:55
aladiahnone had same experience before ?18:55
teward!crosspost | aladiah18:55
ubottualadiah: Please don't ask the same question in multiple Ubuntu channels at the same time. Many helpers are in more than one channel and it's not fair to them or the other people seeking support.18:55
EriC^^rafgas: try ubuntu-drivers devices and see the recommended driver18:56
rafgasEriC^^: it recommends the one I had when the  problem started18:57
EriC^^rafgas: did you try purging nvidia* ?18:58
rafgasEriC^^: could it be trying to run both nvidia and Intel screen drivers at the same time?18:58
rafgasNo purging, no, how do I do that?18:58
EriC^^apt-get purge nvidia*18:58
rafgasAnd then reboot?18:59
rafgasEriC^^: No-go19:01
EriC^^what did it say19:01
rafgasSame results, emergency mode19:01
EriC^^rafgas: ok try to boot into the root shell again19:02
rafgasDone, with network19:02
EriC^^and try cat /var/log/apt/history.log | nc termbin.com 999919:02
rafgasEriC^^: 125g19:03
diskinhello all, what is the best way to configure "switch layout while right alt is pressed" in Ubuntu 14.04 and higher?19:05
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Stiwardi have a problem  running Raidcall with wine, said me "Detalles: Falló al cambiar al directorio «/home/roldan/.wine/dosdevices/z:/home/roldan/Descargas/RaidCall» (No existe el archivo o el directorio)"19:06
Stiwardi have a problem  running Raidcall with wine, said me "Details: Failed to change the "/home/roldan/.wine/dosdevices/z:/home/roldan/Descargas/RaidCall" directory (No such file or directory) Details: Failed to change to the "/ home / directory roldan /.wine/dosdevices/z:/home/roldan/Descargas/RaidCall "(No such file or directory)"19:07
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DJonesStiward: It might be worth asking that in the wine support channel19:09
DJones!wine | Stiward19:10
ubottuStiward: WINE is a compatibility layer for running Windows programs on GNU/Linux - More information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Wine - Search the !AppDB for application compatibility ratings - Join #winehq for application help - See !virtualizers for running Windows (or another OS) inside Ubuntu19:10
geirhathough does that file exist? i.e. what does this output?  ls -ld /home/roldan/Descargas/RaidCall19:10
StiwardDJones: how i can go to that channel?19:11
argon__./join #winehq (I guess)19:11
DJonesStiward: Type /join #winehq19:11
Stiwardrunning windows7 with virtualbox i cant see the pointer19:14
MonkeyDustStiward  sure you have to be in this channel?19:17
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omoukI have a question about SSL certificates19:20
rafgasEriC^^: i think I fixed it19:21
EriC^^rafgas: cool, how?19:22
rafgasEriC^^: i remembered that I added a webdav mount I'm fstab, I commented that line out and I'm in, I'm gonna retry to be sure19:22
rafgasAnd perhaps get help with the webdav mount then...  ;)19:23
omouk1. I would like to know what is the best practise about intermediate CA ? Intermediate CA must be installed on servers (LDAPS, AD, HTTPS) or on clients ?  2. Is-it possible to sigen a certificate using both SHA-1 and SHA-2 ? Thanks :)19:23
rafgasEric, yep, that worked19:23
EriC^^rafgas: cool19:24
TJ-omouk: intermediate certificate should be bundled and presented by the server19:25
rafgasTermbin.com/n28s why does the webdav mount break my boot?19:26
omoukTJ-: Thanks, so if I use active directory to store public certificates (for mail crypting), I have to installed intermediate certificate on Active Directory, not on mail clients ?19:28
EriC^^rafgas: try to uncomment it and type sudo mount -a19:28
TJ-omouk: And I don't think X509 supports multiple signature algorithms in a single cert19:29
rafgasEriC^^: it asks for username and password, can't I add that to fstab?19:29
TJ-omouk: yes, you may be able to install it once to be shared by all services, or install it bundled with the server's certificate19:30
ioriahttps://webdav.example.com /home/username/webdav davfs user,noauto,uid=username,file_mode=600,dir_mode=700 0 119:30
omoukTJ-: thank you very much for your anwsers :)19:30
varaindemianError while copying to a USB stick: The destination is read-only19:31
rafgasHmm, strange the server doesn't accept webdav anymore , this doesn't look like an ubuntu problem anymore...19:31
ioriamount manually19:31
varaindemianioria: hm?19:32
rafgasDirected at me I think19:33
ioriavaraindemian, was for rafgas19:33
ioriarafgas, ever worked that line in fstab ?19:35
rafgasNot sure now ioria19:37
rafgasMy connection in caja works every  time,  maybe that tricked me19:37
AlexQHi. How do I quickly fix refresh rate on my HDMI output? Screen options are not recognised properly, only get interlaced outputs on my TV while it works well via Win10.19:37
MonkeyDustvaraindemian  dirty workaround: copy the USB content to your HDD, then format USB19:38
ioriarafgas, https://wiki.archlinux.org/index.php/Davfs19:38
richardqajoin #docker19:38
tumblerhi guys ... what script to clean whole system?19:40
AlexQtumbler: Whattya mean?19:41
MonkeyDusttumbler  i have a custom script, moment...19:42
OerHeks!info bleachbit19:42
ubottubleachbit (source: bleachbit): delete unnecessary files from the system. In component universe, is optional. Version 1.10-1 (xenial), package size 284 kB, installed size 1813 kB19:42
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MonkeyDusttumbler  I picked this up in this channel ... save it as 'fixpackages' ... make executable with 'chmod +x fixpackages' ... then run it with './fixpackages' ... http://paste.ubuntu.com/15121279/19:43
varaindemianMonkeyDust: I did format it couple of times..19:43
MonkeyDusttumbler  wrong link, Verzeihung19:43
AlexQAnoone could please help how to add a HDMI output mode with xranrd --newmode to quickly fix lacking 1080p50/60 output options for my TV?19:45
tumblerMonkeyDust: what does your script do?19:45
tumbleri need something of simple to clean apt ... stop19:46
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MonkeyDusttumbler  disregard my reply, it's not relevant, my mistake19:46
tumbleri saw that19:46
tumbleri am wondering what it did19:46
AlexQtumbler: I still don't get what you want to do precisely?19:47
fenecohi, i am trying to install ubuntu-gnome-16.04 and it seems to get stucked in the screen "preparing to install ubuntu gnome"19:48
fenecoany idea of what i could do?19:48
iseneAfter upgrade to 16.04, my authdeamond got kicked out of the building and I now need to run "/usr/sbin/authdaemond start" upon laptop restart. How do I make sure it runs automatically?19:48
iseneWhere do I put what?19:48
iseneOr what do I debug?19:48
tumblerAlexQ: usual things apt-get autoremove apt-get clean19:49
tumblerany fully script19:50
fenecoi will wait one more hour19:50
tumbleri'll use bleachbit19:50
OerHeksapt autoclean or apt autoremove?19:50
tumblermen i use arch for 3y by now ... i need simple script for my father's pc19:51
tumbleranyone knows19:51
tumbleri gotta go19:53
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fenecojust want to install this thing19:59
sebsebsebfeneco: ok20:01
sebsebsebfeneco: what's the problem?20:01
sebsebsebfeneco: oh I see the issue above now20:01
fenecosebsebseb: i am on the live usb now, on ubuntu gnome, cant get past this screen http://i.imgur.com/x5JNFxq.png20:02
sebsebsebfeneco: have you re booted treid live seession again?20:02
fenecoi created the usb installer with dd, on fedora 23 on another compter20:02
sebsebsebfeneco: you might also have a bad Live Media as in it didn't do it properly20:02
sebsebseb!md5sum | feneco20:02
ubottufeneco: To verify your Ubuntu ISO image (or other files for which an MD5 checksum is provided), see http://help.ubuntu.com/community/HowToMD5SUM20:02
sebsebsebfeneco: that could be if so since the ISO didn't download properly,  or your burn didn't go right20:03
AlexQCould someone please help me with adding a Xorg display mode? Generated some with cvs and it works, but is slightly hazy. Could I copy the data required from Windows10, where there is a required mode available and works perfectly?20:04
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sebsebsebarkadiy: 420:04
sebsebsebbuzze: HI20:04
fenecosebsebseb: im downloading a new iso to try to create from this live usb20:05
arkadiyче тут?20:05
sebsebsebfeneco:you should md5sum check the ISO to20:05
sebsebsebfeneco: to make sure it downloaded ok20:05
sebsebsebor find out that itdidn't20:05
sebsebsebfeneco: yes it probably has but still good to check20:05
arkadiywhat this&&&?20:05
buzzeim trying out ubuntu MATE on vm , its awesome :)20:06
sebsebseb!support arkadiy20:06
ubottuThe official ubuntu support channel is #ubuntu. Also see http://ubuntu.com/support and http://ubuntuforums.org and http://askubuntu.com20:06
varaindemianMonkeyDust: it's freaking impossible20:06
varaindemianto copy some files to a usbstick drive under ubuntu20:07
DF3D2my usb dac audio stops working all the time since upgrade to 14.0420:07
k1lvaraindemian: what? that is easy. what is the exact issue?20:07
varaindemiank1l: Error while copying to a USB stick: The destination is read-only20:08
k1lvaraindemian: so that is quite self explaining20:08
varaindemiank1l: I tried to format it hundreds of times20:08
k1lvaraindemian: "mount | nc termbin.com 9999"20:08
k1lvaraindemian: "dmesg | nc termbin.com 9999"20:08
k1lplease show 2 urls in here20:09
fenecosebsebseb: it's download, im going to try20:09
sebsebsebfeneco: ok good luck :)20:09
varaindemiank1l: http://termbin.com/esvc http://termbin.com/i9uc20:09
k1lvaraindemian: you know what "The destination is read-only" means? it means that you cant write to the destination. most times that happens when an error occurs (hardware error ?) so the data doesnt get deleted20:09
johannixanyone have a laptop they recommend for running Linux? https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=1174012020:10
varaindemiank1l: the usb stick drive is removed now20:10
rafgas_how come i can mount ~/owncloud manually, but my fstab doesnt work? Doesnt mount ~/owncloud search its info from fstab?20:10
varaindemiank1l: so how can I fix this?20:11
k1lvaraindemian: was it sdb? [ 6855.522902] FAT-fs (sdb1): unable to read boot sector to mark fs as dirty20:11
fenecoubuntu-gnome@ubuntu-gnome:~/Downloads$ md5sum ubuntu-gnome-16.04-desktop-amd64.iso20:12
fenecod49a40366d6319501ff5b2d11b3bbf0b  ubuntu-gnome-16.04-desktop-amd64.iso20:12
varaindemiank1l: its the usb stick I am trying to write20:12
k1lvaraindemian: that sounds like a hardware issue from the usb drive20:12
k1lvaraindemian: try on another usb port.20:12
varaindemiank1l: I did..20:13
justmytwospencecould someone point me towards a good resource for figuring out xkb?20:13
varaindemiank1l: http://termbin.com/rczb http://termbin.com/6uk220:14
varaindemianNow it's connected20:14
k1lvaraindemian: FAT-fs (sdb1): Volume was not properly unmounted. Some data may be corrupt. Please run fsck.20:14
k1lvaraindemian: which means. unmount the FS and run a fsck on the partition20:15
varaindemiank1l: Why does it work perfectly fine under windows/..20:16
Mr_Redi have a problem20:16
k1lvaraindemian: because you should start unmounting devices properly. if you want your data not to be deleted accidently20:17
Mr_Redi need to play ffix in pcsx like epsxe with the same savegame20:17
camroncadecan anyone help me out, I'm trying to get Ubuntu 16.04 to boot a custom xsession...I've spent a fair amount of time googling but all the documentation is out of date20:22
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Mr_RedGuest4010 hola20:25
rubywardenWhat common pitfalls are there when installing (x)ubuntu 16.05 to dual boot with Windows 10? I've burned a amd64 ISO to a DVD-R using Windows Disc Image Burner.20:26
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rubenwardyWill the Bootloader (GRUB?) support UEFI automatically with the standard amd64 download?20:26
TJ-rubenwardy: yes, if the installer *boots* in UEFI mode it'll install grub-efi20:27
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sivamgnome panel issue with vnc : http://paste.linux.chat/view/4fb3db1820:27
TJ-rubenwardy: controlling the boot mode is down to the motherboard's boot manager, and what you, the user, chooses20:28
rubenwardyawesome, so as long as I check that the installer is in UEFI mode (the wiki page says that it'll come up with a black options screen with Try/Install ubuntu, and no pink screen) then it should work fine?20:29
TJ-rubenwardy: the installer will use GRUB if it starts in UEFI mode, so the boot menu will have the GRUB version printed across the top20:29
firmanhai, how to find out trouble that freezing my laptop? I am on xenial xerus20:29
TJ-rubenwardy: if it boots in MBR mode it'll use the syslinux/isolinux boot menu not GRUB20:29
rubenwardyI see20:30
rubenwardyThis thread mentions possibly changing OS Selection in the boot config: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=2253168&page=220:31
rubenwardyDoes anyone know anything about that? Is that only applicable for booting in legacy mode?20:31
TJ-rubenwardy: the firmware will have a boot manager menu. Usually there's a key you can press at boot-time that can access it, then you get to choose which device or boot-menu entry to use. For a removable device that has both UEFI and Legacy boot built-in, the menu should show 2 entries for the device and indicate in some which is EFI and which is Legacy20:35
TJ-rubenwardy: unfortunately the way it is indicated is left to the manufacturers so there's no standard, and some make it all but impossible to figure out20:36
TJ-!pt | fantasma_20:36
ubottufantasma_: Por favor, use #ubuntu-br para ajuda em português. Para entrar no canal por favor faça "/join #ubuntu-br" sem as aspas. Para a comunidade local portuguêsa, use #ubuntu-pt. Obrigada.20:36
FunkyELFTrying to run this: https://github.com/mame/quine-relay  ... but it stops on 95/100 because it can't find a "ppt" executable for punched tape?20:39
FunkyELFany idea where I can get this?20:39
FunkyELFit looks like it might have been provided by bsdgames?20:40
PiciFunkyELF: yep, it comes with bsdgames20:40
FunkyELFPici: hmm... looks like its in /usr/games  probably not on PATH20:41
PiciFunkyELF: seems to be on my $PATH, I don't recall if I changed that though.20:41
FunkyELFPici, I'm root... I was running this inside of Docker20:42
FunkyELFI wasn't about to install 100 different compilers on my host machine ;-)20:42
Bashing-omMr_Red: Hi ! Welcome to ubuntu support on IRC :)20:46
naccgecko_x2: extended issues at home here, did you get your package question answered from this morning?20:48
gecko_x2nacc i believe the binary i'm using needs and older version no longer avail.. i gave up and looking at other solutions.. but thx20:51
naccgecko_x2: ok, the package, as i recall it, was https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/libsecp256k1, which is only available for 16.1020:51
gecko_x2i compiled it from github20:52
gecko_x2doesn't matter though20:52
naccgecko_x2: ok20:53
Shah_Hi everybody20:58
Mr_Redshah que tal?20:58
fantasma_brazil eu sou20:59
fantasma_I m from brasil20:59
Shah_Bien y tu ?20:59
Shah_Im from france, in live from bolivia20:59
Mr_Redim spanish lol20:59
Mr_Redjajaja supongo que bien21:00
ubottuThe main Ubuntu channels require that you speak in calm, polite English. For other languages, please visit https://wiki.ubuntu.com/IRC/ChannelList21:00
ubottuEn la mayoría de los canales de Ubuntu, se habla sólo en inglés. Si busca ayuda en español entre al canal #ubuntu-es; escriba " /join #ubuntu-es " (sin comillas) y presione intro.21:01
Shah_But there is the default irc of my device, and i cannot change the canal...21:01
MonkeyDustShah_  what channel doe you mean21:02
Mr_Redshah_ write /join #ubuntu-es21:03
Shah_Thx, but no hablo espanol... :p21:03
Shah_I'm on ubuntu touch chatter application, and i can't change channel21:04
mlliefind /var/lib/php5/ -depth -mindepth 1 -maxdepth 1 -type f -cmin +$(/usr/lib/php5/maxlifetime) ! -execdir fuser -s {} 2>/dev/null \; -delete21:06
mllieWhat does the last part after maxlifetime do?21:06
freerideris someone here is familiar with apparmor profile?21:07
HumorousoneNew to linux as a whole, where do I find the install location of programs?21:11
MonkeyDustHumorousone  /user/bin21:11
HumorousoneI'm trying to drag a plugin file into my keepass installation directory :P21:11
HumorousoneMonkeyDust <321:11
MonkeyDustHumorousone  /usr/bin rather21:12
HumorousoneI was about to ask about that21:12
glassany assistance with getting fish to launch when i ctrl+alt+t ubuntu mate 16.0421:14
HumorousoneI can't find the plugins folder with keepass21:15
xzcvczxanyone got a trusty install that is able to pastebin a file for me?21:16
HumorousoneMonkeyDust, for some reason the directory is under /lib/keepass :21:17
Humorousoneand it has no plugins folder D:21:17
MyrttiHumorousone: which instructions are you following?21:18
TJ-xzcvczx: I've a chroot, what do you want?21:18
LoshkiHumorousone: check out http://tldp.org/LDP/intro-linux/html/sect_03_01.html21:19
xzcvczxTJ-: nvm i was able to download the source package from ubuntu and found it that way, thanks anyways :)21:19
HumorousoneGreat find21:19
HumorousoneI'll try to get a pastebin of the instructions given21:20
TJ-Humorousone: for any package installed from the archives, or a .deb, "dpkg -L <package-name>" will list all its installed files21:21
TJ-Humorousone: to find the absolute path to any executable (that is on the search PATH) use "which <executable-name>"21:22
Humorousoneone thing that's confusing me21:23
Humorousone" It is assumed KeePass is installed to:/home/zander/KeePass " ~ from the instructions21:23
Humorousonewhoops, left my username in ther21:23
Stiwardits possible instal windows next to ubuntu, having actually just ubuntu un my computer?21:29
MonkeyDustStiward  yes, but windows will 'ruin' GRUB ... it's better to install windows first, then ubuntu21:30
LordSeaworthHey I have a question, just installed ubuntu xenial with windows 10 on it. Everything went okay. install went okay booted up in grub, so i choose the windows one to check if windows still worked. No problem then i reboot so i can start in ubuntu but it auto boots i windows now.21:30
MonkeyDustLordSeaworth  during boot, hold shift pressed to go to the grub menu21:31
StiwardMonkeyDust: will 'ruin' GRUB???21:31
MonkeyDustStiward  yes, you will have to repair grub21:31
LordSeaworthMonkeyDust, ill try that21:31
rubenwardyLordSeaworth, have you turned off fastboot?21:32
rubenwardyor fast startup21:32
rubenwardyin power options21:32
LordSeaworthill check that to21:32
StiwardMonkeyDust: what is grub?21:32
AbsurdTechwell Windows usually overwrites the bootloader21:32
AbsurdTechStiward: bootloader that many Linux distros use21:33
MonkeyDustStiward  grub lets you choose between windows and ubuntu, it's a menu21:33
rittlehey. I'm searching fore a file browser that shows miller columns in a really nice "finder" like way... IDEAS?21:33
StiwardMonkeyDust: and how can i do to reapir it?21:34
MonkeyDust!repairgrub | Stiward21:34
reisiorittle: http://askubuntu.com/questions/396107/how-to-have-nautilus-window-divided-into-two-or-three-columns-like-mac-miller21:34
ubottuGRUB2 is the default Ubuntu boot manager. Lost GRUB after installing Windows? See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestoreGrub - For more information and troubleshooting for GRUB2 please refer to https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Grub221:34
StiwardMonkeyDust: how can i go to that chanel?21:34
MonkeyDustStiward  what channel?21:35
StiwardMonkeyDust: chat, sorry21:35
LordSeaworthOkay din't work and fast boot is disabled21:35
MonkeyDustStiward  what chat do you mean?21:36
rubenwardy3LordSeaworth: you definitely disabled fast startup in power options21:36
rubenwardy3power options > change what the buttons do > show hidden options > uncheck fast startup21:36
LordSeaworthrubenwardy3: Yeah Fast boot is disabled21:36
rubenwardy3fast boot is a UEFI setting afaik, fast startup is a Windows 10 one21:37
StiwardMonkeyDust: !repairgrub21:37
LordSeaworthmy windows and ubuntu or both uefi21:37
rubenwardy3When you have windows 10 loads, do that route I said21:37
MonkeyDustStiward  open the links that ubottu shows21:38
LordSeaworthwhat route?21:38
rubenwardy3<rubenwardy3> power options > change what the buttons do > show hidden options > uncheck fast startup21:38
Humorousonegood god I am a moron.21:38
rubenwardy3search for power options using search/cortana21:38
HumorousoneThe plugins folder was just hidden for some reason.21:38
rittlereisio: thanks. why is marlin not in the ppa21:39
LordSeaworthokay now i should reboot and it should show grub?21:40
reisiorittle: ?21:40
LordSeaworthokay ill be back in a min21:40
datnighi gents, perhaps a tad off topic, but can anyone please identify the power connector in this pic? http://postimg.org/image/rbhti56rl/ from left to right +12v, -12v, gnd, +5v21:41
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LordSeaworth_Still autoboots in windows21:42
mac3liteI have an external HDD that has been giving me problems read/write, is there a good HDD repair tool that will do a full scan on the HDD marking any bad spots possibly making it usable again?21:44
rittlereisio: I mean in the main repo...21:45
rittlereisio: or in the ubuntu store...21:46
MonkeyDustmac3lite  'man badblocks'21:48
tgm4883rittle: should it be?21:48
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Bashing-ommac3lite: Consider badblocks - ME not responisble for use !! -- http://smartmontools.sourceforge.net/badblockhowto.html ; http://unix.stackexchange.com/questions/65349/how-to-interpret-badblocks-output .21:49
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MonkeyDustmac3lite  in the badblocks man page, scroll down to 'WARNING', first21:50
mac3liteThe hard drive was given to me as garbage anyways, so it doesn’t matter what happens to it - just hoping i could get it working21:51
rittletgm4883: Why not? Wouldn't that be much more convinient?21:52
compdocmac3lite, you need to try to read the SMART info from the drive to know if you should use it21:52
tgm4883rittle: maybe start here https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuDevelopment/NewPackages21:52
reisiothere aren't any drives worth taking the time to use badblocks with over replacing21:52
rubenwardyin terms of UEFI settings, are quick boot and fast boot the same?21:54
rubenwardyI can't find fast boot, only quick boot21:54
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rittletgm4883: That would be a start.... unfortunately I have to start almost from scratch. :(21:54
rubenwardyI guess they're different names by different manufactors21:54
mac3liteI’m actaully having trouble creaing a new partition, it’s been sitting at %25 for about 20minutes now, It’s a 2TB EXT USB2.0 HDD21:55
bekksmac3lite: Take a look at "dmesg".21:55
mac3litebekks only thing I came up with was a Hard Drive recovery in CM21:56
bekksWhats "CM"?21:56
rittletgm4883: Do you trust this repo?21:57
tgm4883rittle: what repo?21:57
bekksmac3lite: What is that?21:57
rittletgm4883: The repo: sudo add-apt-repository ppa:marlin-devs/marlin-daily21:57
rubenwardy_The guide says to "disable quick boot / fast boot". My UEFI settings only has fast boot - am I missing quick boot somewhere hidden?21:58
rubenwardy_Or are they the same thing?21:58
rittletgm4883: From this site: http://askubuntu.com/questions/396107/how-to-have-nautilus-window-divided-into-two-or-three-columns-like-mac-miller21:58
bekksrittle: Quickboot is a windows feature. You need to disable that too, in case you are windows.21:58
bekksrittle: sorry, tab fail.21:59
donofrioHow would I bridge four ubuntu boxes together to make an ubuntu-wall?22:00
bekksdonofrio: ?22:00
bekksdonofrio: What are you talking about?22:00
donofriolike what piwall can do but without the pi's22:00
bekksWhatever a piwall might be.22:01
donofrioone xorg multiple outputs22:01
nunchuck"Unable to access "OS"" error trying to get at windows 8 hd using 16.04 live cd22:02
MonkeyDustdonofrio  you mean a video wall?22:02
Fremanso, we've got a box,  4.2 kernel, that keeps doing this http://pastebin.com/8NBURpyd - any ideas?22:02
rubenwardy_bekks: are you sure? On the wiki, it says it is a firmware setting. I've already disabled the thing in the power options of Windows called "fast startup"22:02
donofrioMonkeyDust, Yeppper22:03
rubenwardy_Another question: in the boot menu, it says:   Boot Option #1   Windows Boot Manager \n Add New Boot Option22:03
rittleSince I'am thinking about ppa's: how doese ubuntu know... what the server adress of a ppa is? These adresses are not normal domain names .... (ppa:marlin-devs/marlin-daily)22:05
tewardrittle: ppa:marlin-devs/marlin-daily is actually easy to interpret as a URL yourself, in so much that you can figure where on the 'net to go to get the full URL information22:06
tewardrittle: https://launchpad.net/~marlin-devs22:06
tewardrittle: and the "Marlin Daily" PPA is listed further under them22:06
tewardrittle: https://launchpad.net/~marlin-devs/+archive/ubuntu/marlin-daily22:07
rubenwardy_Another question: in the boot menu, it says:   Boot Option #1   Windows Boot Manager \n Add New Boot Option.   Do I need to add a new entry to load a DVD-R in UEFI mode?22:07
tewardrittle: essentially, then, you can almost do something like this to determine what the ultimate URL is.  Given the format ppa:GROUPNAME/PPANAME you would have this: https://launchpad.net/~GROUPNAME/+archive/ubuntu/PPANAME22:08
rubenwardy_it asks for a fsx:\path\filename.efi in the list22:08
rittleteward: thx... I allready thought about a way to complex background server domain structure... never crossed my mind that it was subdirectory of launchpad...22:10
rittleteward: doing...22:10
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nunchuckUnable to access "OS" http://pastebin.com/6pGqASxu22:14
nunchucksays my file system is unclean lol22:15
xdevnullGuys, I've problem but i don't what things causes this problem.22:15
xdevnullI'm connected to WiFI, But sometimes. it's shows as connected while the internet is not opening22:15
ubottufsck is the FileSystem ChecKer, which runs automatically when you boot if you didn't shutdown cleanly. Type "man fsck" for information on running it manually. The command "sudo touch /forcefsck && sudo shutdown -r now" will force a reboot and a filesystem check; "sudo touch /fastboot" will skip a filesystem check at next reboot22:15
xdevnullif i restart my laptop, It continue working. In my phone. the internet is working normally22:15
nicomachusxdevnull: what do you mean by "internet is not opening"? the browser isn't opening, or pages aren't loading?22:15
xdevnullI've Ubuntu 14.0422:15
MonkeyDustnunchuck  pastebin the ouptu of  lsblk22:16
xdevnullnicomachus, Yes. pages not loading. IRC discconects ..22:16
nicomachusxdevnull: can you paste the output of "sudo lshw -C network" to a pastebin and link here?22:16
nicomachuscurious if it's the pesky realtek chipset22:17
xdevnullpastebinit > sudo lshw -C network22:17
xdevnullthis is the command?22:17
nicomachusxdevnull: sudo lshw -C network | pastebinit22:17
OerHeksnunchuck, "Please resume and shutdown Windows fully (no hibernation or fast restarting)" is also a hint22:17
nicomachusboth may work, but I prefer the pipe22:17
xdevnullnicomachus, http://paste.ubuntu.com/16537908/22:18
nunchuckman think my livecd crashed22:19
nicomachusxdevnull: ok it's not the realtek chipset then.22:19
xdevnullnicomachus, So my drivers are fine?22:20
nicomachusxdevnull: look fine to me, but I don't have too much experience with the broadcom sets. Tough to troubleshoot too much more without it actually occuring now...22:21
xdevnullWell, to be honest. this makes me crazy. because sometimes it's working days fine. and sometimes keep disconnecting. And i can't even connect back. Only if. i restart my laptop22:21
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StiwardHow can i boot of my usb having ubuntu?22:23
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AbsurdTechStiward: Depends on the computer for exact steps but most computers made after 2005-2007ish should have a option to boot off a USB drive22:25
wgwzanyone have any experience making a live windows usb? (within linux)22:25
Fremanmy admittedly sleepy google foo found "Deadlocks with transparent huge pages and userspace fs daemons" but that's ancient... as much as I'd like to just blame btrfs22:25
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AbsurdTechUsually involves hitting a button with your mobo splash screen and navigating to a boot menu22:25
wgwzAbsurdTech: was that to me?22:26
AbsurdTechwgwz: for Stiward, I dunno how to make Windows Live USBs, sorry bud22:26
nicomachuswgwz: AFAIK, it's the same as if you were making an ubuntu live usb.22:26
nicomachuswrite the .iso to the USB with Startup Disk Creator or manually with dd22:27
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wgwzAbsurdTech: np. thanks22:27
AbsurdTechwgwz: Just curious however, are you trying to get an installer or those "Windows To Go" type of thing that Microsoft calls22:27
wgwznicomachus: ok. i tried with unetbootin. but got os not found or something when i tried to boot into it. i think it might be my usb stick and how its formatted22:28
wgwznicomachus: ill try again with startup disk creator. trying to reformat to fat32 at the moment. (waiting for dd to fill zeroes....)22:29
wgwzAbsurdTech: aiming for a traditional installer. (win 7 pro)22:30
StiwardAbsurdTech: It is that I want to install windows (for intalarlo next to ubuntu), I have the iso imaen recorded in Mayan key (the recorded image using "disk image writer"); the internal system already had managed to boot from a USB but do not start the procedure from the USB and I usually start Ubuntu22:30
StiwardAbsurdTech: It is that I want to install windows (to install next to ubuntu), I have the iso imaen recorded in Mayan key (the recorded image using "disk image writer"); the internal system already had managed to boot from a USB but do not start the procedure from the USB and I usually start Ubuntu22:31
wgwzStiward: did you install the windows os after you booted into it from the usb stick?22:32
wgwzim in the process of doing the same thing but having usb drive issues22:32
rubenwardy_"installing third-party drivers requires turning off secure boot"22:33
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AbsurdTechThat's a bugger22:33
Stiwardwgwz:not let me start from the USB to install windows22:33
nunchuckMonkeyDust: i need sda3 methinks http://pastebin.com/6pGqASxu http://pastebin.com/FaUxcQre22:34
wgwzStiward: what kind of mobo?22:34
AbsurdTechNot to go too offtopic but with these modified Realtek drivers I had to disable secure boot and enable test mode whenever I used em, pure pain in the butt22:35
Stiwardwgwz: i dont know what kind of mobo my computer has22:35
AbsurdTechStiward: prebuilt?22:35
nicomachusAbsurdTech: realtek generally is a pain in the butt. purely absurd tech22:35
StiwardAbsurdTech: ??22:35
AbsurdTech*ba dum tsh*22:35
AbsurdTechStiward: Is the computer you're using come from an OEM?22:36
AbsurdTechor a company you'd find in retail stores?22:36
wgwzhow long should it take for `dd if=/dev/zero of=/dev/sdc` to execute? im at the 5-10 minute mark ...22:37
wgwzits a 15GB usb stick22:37
StiwardAbsurdTech: OEM?22:38
AbsurdTechLots of factors, how fast your storage device is (generally not too often slowing down things), how fast your USB drive is, whether it's plugged into a 3.0 hole if it can utilize those speeds22:38
wgwzStiward: so when you restart your computer do you have an option for press f11 for boot menu? (or something like it)22:38
Bashing-omwgwz: 1 hour per gig is my experience with "bs=1M" .22:39
AbsurdTechAlmost most windows images are near the 5.0GB mark if I'm not mistaken so it may take a bit22:39
Bashing-om100 gigs *22:39
Stiwardwgwz: F1022:39
OerHeksa bit longer without the bs=1m option22:39
rubenwardyWhat's the difference between Files (/dev/sda5 ntfs) and Xubuntu (/dev/sda6 ext4)? This is in the partioning menu, I'm trying to install alongside Windows 10. It's a dragger, and they're the two options, and the file sizes don't add up to my full hard drive space22:39
wgwzStiward: what error messages do you get when you try to boot windows?22:40
cooloutachello all how can I install 331 drivers in ubuntu 16.04?22:41
cooloutacthe newer drivers cause all types of issues,  full screen flickering, and poor performance in steam games,  want to go back to the old reliable 331 drivers,  I only see 304 and 340 in driver manager22:42
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Stiwardwgwz: anyone, just enter normaly to ubuntu, dont enter to tha usb22:43
rubenwardyGoing into the advanced view, Files (/etc/sda5) already exists but Xubuntu (/etc/sda6) doesn't, so I'm guessing /etc/sda5 is Windows22:44
rubenwardybut the "used" column is wrong, it's measuring 100MB ish in Files22:44
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Guest7239que pasa22:45
Guest55347i tried sudo apt-get install nvidia-331  but that doesn't install it,  only uses 340 so confusing22:45
Guest55347I want to install nvidia 331 binary driver.22:46
Guest55347man it doesn't look like linux gaming is going anywhere...22:46
Guest55347wait why am I gues? lol22:46
Bashing-omcooloutac: " Support for X.Org xserver version 1.15 was added to the 173.14.* legacy driver series with version 173.14.39. No further releases from the 173.14.* series are planned." Older 331 driver you can bet is also no longer supported by Nvidia . http://nvidia.custhelp.com/app/answers/detail/a_id/3142/~/support-timeframes-for-unix-legacy-gpu-releases .22:46
Guest55347Bashing-om, what do you mean supported?  thats not a big deal I just want to install it22:47
Bashing-omGuest55347: You can not install what does not exist . right ?22:48
Guest55347but it has to exist somewhere22:48
Bashing-omguest .. well .. IF you were to install a real old linux release from way back .. and maybe can find the driver as OEM ??? Moderen Xservr will not work with that driver .22:49
Guest55347Bashing-om, oh and that was proably before ubuntu was systemd so even if I find it maybe it won't install right?22:49
Guest55347dam... well this sucks22:50
codfectionguys when I put my laptop on sleep mode and wake it up wifi doesnt work !!!22:50
Guest55347guess I have to stick with windows for gaming22:50
Guest55347the newer nvidia drivers are are terrible for the older cards22:50
Guest55347i have a gtx 650 ti22:50
Bashing-omGuest55347: correct .. will not install .22:50
Guest55347so much for steam on linux tf2 runs horrible.22:50
Guest55347but even worse i get flickering in vlc22:51
Bashing-omGuest55347: I look, I bet nvidia recommends the 361 version .22:51
Guest55347Bashing-om, ya but nvidia has been really going downhill22:51
Guest55347i hav a similar issue on linux with a specific game bad company 2.22:51
codfectionguys when I put my laptop on sleep mode and wake it up wifi doesnt work !!!22:51
Guest55347newwer drivers cause severe stuttering,  low fps on mdeium settings,  and black screen flickering22:52
Guest55347if i roll back to 331 drivers.  it runs at great fps on high settings no issues22:52
Guest55347complaining to nvidia and ea got me nowhere22:52
Blesshow can i grab an iso image in my usb?22:52
codfectionGuest55347, then why dont u roll back22:52
Guest55347then at the same time for newer games  you need the newer drivers for best performance like bf322:52
Guest55347so its like a pick and choose22:52
Guest55347probably all a conspiracy to get people to buy newer games or hardware.22:52
Guest55347codfection,  apparenlty its not possible anymore,  its all a conspiracy to force upgrades.22:53
Bashing-omGuest55347: Can not help there .. Nvidia do remommend 361 : http://www.nvidia.com/download/driverResults.aspx/101423/en-us .22:53
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Guest55347Bashing-om, its a conspiracy22:53
Guest55347Bashing-om, i remember basck in the late 90s and early 200s,  you never upgraded your dam drivers if they worked.22:53
Guest7239hello who helps me with this question, because the same computer with xubuntu the processor reaches 100% and not vaja but lubuntu is between 30% and 90% work better because? It is much difference Desktop22:54
Guest55347I don't know when that philosphophy changed.  newere drivers are made for newer cards they definitely aint testing them on everything22:54
Guest55347what a joke...22:54
Guest55347apparenlty they are also made for newer software too.  so old stuff just gets left in the dust.  doesn't really seem like the linux way to me.22:54
Guest55347but even forget about the games,  what is up with the fullscreen flickering in linux now.22:55
Guest55347that is terrible,  probably ruins the card.22:55
Guest55347how do you turn compositing off in unity?22:56
Bashing-omGuest55347: To get just an inkling of an idea of how hard we work on drivers : https://lists.ubuntu.com/archives/ubuntu-desktop/2015-August/004693.html ,22:56
tgm4883Guest55347: I think it gets turned off automatically for full screen gaming22:56
Guest55347tgm4883, i'm having the issue in vlc22:57
Guest55347watching a video22:57
codfectionpersonally if I had rig with nvidia I wouldnt go for ubuntu as it has many bugs and drivers problems.22:57
Guest55347codfection, what would you go for?  i have had the same issue on arch too22:57
* tgm4883 has an nvidia card and it works fine22:57
codfectionWindows plays good with nvidia22:57
Guest55347mint cinnamon seemed to run it nice though22:57
codfectionand games22:57
Guest55347no full screen flickering with vlc on mint cinnamon22:57
Guest55347but ya games still ran like crap22:57
codfectionmint runs on old kernel22:57
Guest55347even on 4.4. kernel22:58
Guest55347on mint cinnamon no fullscreen flickering with vlc and nvidia prop driver22:58
tgm4883in fact, I think it's about that time22:58
* tgm4883 fires up xcom 222:58
codfectionlinux in my opinion is not as mature as others when it comes to entertainment and gaming22:58
Guest55347codfection, well its supported steam for 3 years now i thought things were diff.22:58
Guest55347guess not.22:58
codfectionSteamOS u mean22:59
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tgm4883I wouldn't bother listening to codfection22:59
Guest55347not only have games gotten worse,  so have the desktops lol22:59
Guest55347tgm4883, ya i think he is a little out of touch22:59
Guest55347codfection, valve officially support ubuntu22:59
codfection2016 and still I have wifi issues after waking up my laptop from sleep on ubuntu 16.04 lol22:59
codfectionthat LTS thou23:00
codfectionhad to fix appstream bugs23:00
codfectionin order to install23:00
Guest55347the ubuntu installer hun on me retrieving 56 of 5623:00
Guest55347i had to unplug the ethernet plug just to install bunto23:00
Guest55347so crazy23:00
codfectionits LTS btw23:00
Guest55347even if you don't check download updates while installing23:00
tgm4883weird, I haven't had any issues installing 16.0423:01
Guest55347tgm4883, i thought the dam iso on usb was corrupted23:01
Guest55347but nope,  it was trying to do something over the internet when installing for some reason23:01
codfectiontgm4883, the bugs are latest. u perhaps need to keep urself updated.23:01
Guest55347only way to get it installed was to literally unplug the ethernet cable so it didn't freeze23:01
ubottuLaunchpad bug 1579712 in appstream (Ubuntu Xenial) "duplicate for #1583845 Refresh hangs indefinitely, appstreamcli using 100% CPU" [High,Fix released]23:02
codfectionLTS lol23:02
Guest55347tgm4883, i found that solution on an ubuntu thread23:02
tgm4883codfection: yes, I know if that issue, and it's already fixed...23:02
squintycodfection, that was a one off and was fixed right away23:02
codfectionsquinty, just before few hours23:02
Guest55347tgm4883, i didn't take it seriously until it ried like 3 times and hours later haha23:02
codfectionI tried re installing and the bug still exists23:02
Guest55347it froze up on cleaning temp files or something23:03
Guest55347i think it actually retrieves that last file,  but osmethign happens23:03
tgm4883codfection: why would you reinstall...23:03
Guest55347tgm4883, i bet its happend to alot of people who just moved on to another distro23:03
codfectioncoz apt get was stuck and didnt know its bug of LTS 16.0423:03
codfectionthought something gone broken due to my fault23:03
_3vi1_'devel' repos or nothing.  It's the computer equivalent to being addicted to cutting yourself.  :)23:03
Guest55347developers should just tell people what hardware they have so we can buy the same shit23:04
tgm4883Guest55347: they usually do...23:04
_3vi1_Guest55347:  Okay...  "All different".23:04
Guest55347ya i guess...23:04
Guest55347they also probably don't do much with their pcs that normal people would.23:04
squintycodfection, done a least 6 full installs of 16.04 and never encountered the appstream bug. and also don't have any problems with nvidia cards either23:05
tgm4883Can we move this to #ubuntu-discuss23:05
Guest55347squinty,  sounds pretty unbelievable man23:05
Guest55347tgm4883, how do i disable compositing in unity23:05
tgm4883squinty: I ran into the appstream bug last night. Was fixed when I ran an update today23:05
codfectionsquinty, sorry but I believe u have installed before this bug. try now :)23:05
codfectiontgm4883, yea maybe today they have fixed.23:06
tgm4883codfection: see, fixed quickly23:06
Guest55347i sometimes think computer users ignore reality to think positive that their system is ok when it isn't,  so alot of problems never get fixed.23:06
codfection1 entire day is not quickly for LTS I guess23:06
Guest55347it happens with windows users too23:06
squintytgm4883, yes it is a one (experienced it here also) but it was fixed and afaik, not an issue during an iso install of 16.0423:07
squinty"one off"23:07
Guest55347squinty,  my issue was it would freeze on retriving file 56 of 5623:07
tgm4883codfection: you keep using that abbreviation, I don't think it means what you think it means23:07
Guest55347squinty,  common old issue with ubuntu installers.  still happens I guess.23:07
Guest55347according to forums23:07
Guest55347only installer thats way worse is opensuse23:08
_3vi1_Hmmm... I've been using Ubuntu for 10 years, and I don't think I've ever run into it either.  :\23:08
Guest55347so a forum post said to unplug the ethernet cable.  i ignored that thinking it was ridiculous23:08
Guest55347but sure enough that was the problme23:08
codfectiontgm4883, thats the bug known. imagine how many are hidden underhood.23:08
squintyGuest55347,  not here it's not. been using ubuntu for years23:08
tgm4883codfection: so?23:08
Guest55347squinty,  aren't you lucky23:09
tgm4883Guest55347: I've never ran into that either23:09
squintyGuest55347,  leave it please23:09
_3vi1_Don't you love when a suggestion sounds stupid, so you put it off til the last resort, then it works.  heh23:09
Guest55347squinty, https://askubuntu.com/questions/774967/installation-is-retrieving-file-56-of-56-for-ages23:09
tgm4883Guest55347: FWIW, that isn't a bug report23:10
_3vi1_20 hours doesn't seem 'old'23:10
Guest55347tgm4883, and?23:10
Guest55347tgm4883, it sure is a way to scare away users fsrom using ubuntu though23:10
Guest55347tgm4883, dont' worry opensuse is worse.23:10
tgm4883Guest55347: it's difficult to fix issues when no developers know about them23:10
Guest55347tgm4883, well thats my point23:11
skweekwhy does my internet suck, or web browsing suck on 16.04?23:11
tgm4883Guest55347: you've completely lost me23:11
tgm4883skweek: did you install hoover?23:11
skweekcompared to previous versions, pages dont refresh, or lock23:11
skweeklol tgm488323:11
_3vi1_skweek:  Happen in all browsers?23:11
codfectionnope only in firefox here.23:12
codfectionchrome works just fine23:12
skweektgm4883: nothing appropriate, well chromium and firefox23:12
Guest55347tgm4883, i find it suspicious actually that even when not checking the box to check for updates.  it still tries to do something over the internet.23:12
skweek_3vi1_: well chromium and firefox23:12
Guest55347its like installing windows 10,  you ahve to literally unplug the ethernet cable so it don't do no funny stuff23:12
tgm4883Guest55347: you can find that suspicious all you want, but all it means is that you can't comprehend the words on the screen23:12
Guest55347tgm4883, this is why the issues don't get fixed23:13
Guest55347youa re the perfect example of why...23:13
tgm4883Guest55347: and why is that?23:13
_3vi1_c'mon guys... keep it civil.23:13
codfectiontgm4883, any idea how to fix my wifi problem (it cant find wireless networks after waking from sleep)23:13
Guest55347tgm4883,  you pretend they are not issues.23:13
Guest55347you tell yourself its just user error and think happy thoughts.23:13
_3vi1_Guest55347:  I don't think he said it wasn't an issue.23:14
squintyGuest55347,  talk about it in ubuntu-discuss. this channel is for support only23:14
Guest55347_3vi1_, he said "I couldn't comprehend the text on the screen"23:14
Guest55347squinty,  and you are telling me in 10 years you never heard of such a thing...23:14
tgm4883Guest55347: Wow, really driving my last statement home aren't you. I never said it wasn't an issue. I said that you don't understand what "download updates" means vs that it could possibly be downloading other items that aren't on the disk. Further, my point of "that's not a bug report" is exactly why it's not getting fixed. Because if nobody files a bug23:14
tgm4883report, then no developers know about it23:14
Guest55347thats linux in a nutshell23:14
OerHeksGuest55347, so now you are here, on succesfully installed ubuntu ?23:15
Guest55347tgm4883, when you unplug the ethernet cable the download updates box fades to grey and everything installs fine.23:15
Guest55347the whole idea of that box is to not connect to the internet imo.23:15
Guest55347the text is pretty easy to comprehend, its common sense.23:15
tgm4883Guest55347: on the contrary, I completely believe you that it's an issue and probably a bug. But you complaining about it here rather than filing a bug report is going to get you nowhere23:15
Guest55347tgm4883, and thats why alot of issues don't get fixed.23:16
Guest55347most people know to come to here or the forums23:16
tgm4883Guest55347: So we both agree then...23:16
_3vi1_Guest55347:  Perhaps the box could be labled better, but that's not the point of it.  You should submit that to launchpad as well.23:16
Guest55347filing a bug?  how? where?23:16
ubottuIf you find a bug in Ubuntu or any of its derivatives, please file a bug using the command « ubuntu-bug <package> » - See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/ReportingBugs for other ways to report bugs.23:16
W00dP3ck3rHello All. Is there an app in Ubuntu repos for Bugzila reporting?23:16
tgm4883Guest55347: your package that you are looking for would be 'ubiquity'23:16
Guest55347ubuntu-bug ubiquity23:17
tgm4883Guest55347: yes23:17
Guest55347i type that in a terminal?23:17
tgm4883Guest55347: yes23:17
codfectionany idea how to fix my wifi problem (it cant find wireless networks after waking from sleep)23:18
codfectionbefore this fresh installation.. it used to work fine23:18
Guest55347codfection,  you have to file bug report lol23:18
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codfectionirc should change its topic then23:19
pauljwthat's right Guest55347, just make jokes and whine, don't do anything to improve the free os you're trying to figure out...23:19
_3vi1_codfection:  I've seen that one once or twice myself (16.10).  Guest55347's actually right... we should bug that on launchpad.23:19
nacccodfection: do you mean the same version of ubuntu would find wireless networks after waking from sleep?23:20
Guest55347tgm4883, https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/ubiquity/+bug/158425623:20
ubottuLaunchpad bug 1584256 in ubiquity (Ubuntu) "https://askubuntu.com/questions/774967/installation-is-retrieving-file-56-of-56-for-ages" [Undecided,New]23:20
codfectionnacc, yes but before this clean installation23:20
codfectionplease note that this time I installed without internet due to some bugs lol23:20
Guest55347tgm4883, now how do i go about reporting bug for fullscreen flickering with latest nvidia prop drivers?23:20
codfectionand later updated and upgraded and full upgraded.23:20
codfectionnacc, 16.0423:20
_3vi1_Guest55347:  That would be reported in the nvidia forum... hold on while I get the link...23:21
tgm4883Guest55347: I would guess that's probably filed against the nvidia package, which IIRC is nvidia-VERSION23:21
Guest55347_3vi1_, tks23:21
tgm4883or possibly xorg23:21
_3vi1_Guest55347:  https://devtalk.nvidia.com/default/board/98/23:21
codfectionGuest55347, good luck expecting help from nvidia regarding drivers.23:22
Guest55347codfection, ya like I siad i was down this road regarding bc2 on windows23:22
Guest55347codfection, its all a conspiracy23:22
nacccodfection: can you pastebin the `dmesg` output after you come back from suspend?23:23
_3vi1_codfection:  They've actually been fixing a lot of stuff lately.  I'm pretty happy with them (though I could be happier).23:23
Guest55347new drivers are for new cards,  and all they do is mess up older cards23:23
codfectionnacc, but the internet wont work. pastebin would?23:23
codfectionafter suspend23:23
Guest55347that was always known 15 years ago,  somewhere along the line the philosophy changed to always have the altest driver....23:23
k00l3th4n  /close23:23
nacccodfection: ah, does the internet work on reboot? sorry, i figured you're on irc now, so you have internet somwhere...23:23
Guest55347which would make sense if it was for security purposes. but of course that is not why...23:23
codfectionnacc, yes after reboot :(23:24
Guest55347udpating drivers is the worse thing you can do for  a computer system...23:24
codfectionGuest55347, agreed hehe23:24
Guest55347always was the case and always will be.  unless for security purposes23:24
nacccodfection: ok, so you'll probably need to s/r, `dmesg > dmesg.log`, reboot, then `cat file | pastebinit`23:24
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codfectionnacc, I need to run this command after suspend or reboot23:25
naccGuest55347: please take fud and non-support discussion elsewhere23:25
Guest55347nacc, and thats why linux is what it is23:25
tgm4883Guest55347: no, there is a specific channel for discussion23:25
nacccodfection: i'd like to see it after suspend, please, but you can only pastebin after reboot23:25
tgm4883this channel is for support23:25
Guest55347tgm4883, but he called truth fud.23:25
naccGuest55347: i have no idea what you mean, but you're offtopic for a support channel23:26
codfectionalright nacc23:26
TopKukhi guys23:26
TopKukis there anywhere I can see a comparison of all of the different ubuntu forks?23:26
tgm4883Guest55347: Yeah, well, that's just, like, your opinion, man23:26
Guest55347tgm4883, not an opinion, over 20 years of experience.23:26
tgm4883TopKuk: *flavors23:26
TopKukor if anyone has any recommendations for ubuntu forks I'd appreciate hearing them23:26
Guest55347TopKuk, mint23:27
tgm4883Guest55347: in any case, #ubuntu-discuss or #ubuntu-offtopic is what you are looking for23:27
Guest55347TopKuk, or trisquel if you don't need prop drivers.23:27
tgm4883TopKuk: Guest55347 this is also off topic23:27
TopKukI've heard a lot of people say there are problems with the way Mint updates the kernel though23:27
_3vi1_TopKuk:  like https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuFlavors ?23:27
TopKukoh if this is the wrong place sorry about that23:27
TopKukthanks for the link23:27
naccTopKuk: this channel is geared towards support for ubuntu23:28
Guest55347TopKuk, they only update for security purposes.  but if you choose to you can update the kernel to 4.4 manually in their gui23:28
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Guest55347TopKuk, also mint 18 coming out in a few months which is based on 16.0423:28
TopKukalright think I'll go with Lubuntu since the laptop I'm installing it on is quite old23:28
Guest55347TopKuk, lubuntu is a good choice23:28
le_pigIs it necessary to run apt-get update after adding a gpg key to /etc/apt/trusted.gpg.d/, or will apt simply notice it the next time I try to install a package?23:29
_3vi1_TopKuk:  Good choice.  I used to use LXDE on my PS3, and it worked well with a very small footprint.23:29
Guest55347ya lxde is great for xp replacements.23:29
Guest55347lubuntu is a nice spin23:30
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Guest47778is there any way to enable the proprietary drivers inside of a running live system?23:33
geniiDepends what the driver is23:33
geniiVideo, no23:34
_3vi1_Guest47778:  you will at least have to restart the DE23:34
Guest47778any solution that doesn't involve rebooting works.23:34
geniiGur to using the other one on the flyest47778: Well, you can enable them. But as _3vi1_ said. You can't just switch ove23:34
geniiGuest47778: Well, you can enable them. But as _3vi1_ said. You can't just switch over on the fly23:35
_3vi1_genii:  Someone move your enter key?  :)23:35
geniiCuff touched the touch pad at a place further back in what I already wrote23:35
Guest47778i'm okay with needing to restart X23:35
geniiThen yes, it's entirely possible.23:36
OerHekson Kubuntu, Guest47778 ?23:37
skinuxWhere would be the proper location for wp-cli.phar to be stored as if it were installed via Ubuntu package? Would that be /usr/local/bin?23:38
naccskinux: generally, packages from Ubuntu don't put anything in /usr/local23:38
Guest47778OerHeks, is there anything special i need to do, or can i just kill X after apt-getting the nvidia drivers?23:38
naccskinux: that's for strictly local installations, not packaged installations23:39
_3vi1_Guest47778:  I think you just need to install the driver, then restart your dm [sudo service restart (kdm or lightdm)].   Am I right, guys?23:39
geniiYes. So in this case likely sddm23:39
bpromptskinux:   is that an executable?  do a -> whereis w--cli.phar  <--- otherwise, do a "find"23:39
_3vi1_Ah yeah... forgot about sddm23:39
* Guest47778 is using a live system23:39
tgm4883bprompt: I think he's asking where it should go. It's not a file in the archive23:40
naccskinux: what package provides that binary, do you know?23:40
tgm4883nacc: it's not in the archive23:40
geniiGuest47778: By "live system" you mean the livedvd/usb, or a system booted up normally?23:40
Guest47778the live usb23:40
bpromptskinux:     are  trying to find it, or trying to put it somewhere for later execution?23:40
nacctgm4883: skinux: ah, a packaging question more generally?23:40
naccskinux: executables should probably go in /usr/bin23:41
Guest55347_3vi1_, https://devtalk.nvidia.com/default/topic/937030/linux/fullscreen-flickering-on-asus-gtx-650-ti-in-linux-desktops-/23:45
Guest55347dam I should of put video.23:45
Guest55347dam there is no edit button lol23:46
Guest55347oh well23:46
Guest55347oh I can't edit topic.  i should o put fullscreen flickering video.23:48
Guest55347*fullscreen video flickering23:48
Guest55347i tried the compiz workaround solution,  but it doesn't fix issue for me23:49
donofrioanyone doing video wall four screen four computers single desktop/video playback, pure ubuntu?23:51
bs_In order to work properly, Unity Tweak Tool recommends you install the necessary packages23:55
Guest55347wow unity uses alot of ram23:55
Guest55347i like kde and xfce,  figured i try out the official ubuntu23:57
Guest55347i have 6gb ram so i should be ok23:57
terminal92Lxde :D23:58
Guest55347oh ya i love lxde too23:58
Guest55347i replaced some xp laptops with lubuntu23:58
Guest55347runs like a dream23:58
Guest55347only problem is screen tearing23:58

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