| IrcsomeBot | <marcinsagol> valorie ping | 00:19 |
|---|---|---|
| valorie | @marcinsagol, what's up? | 02:48 |
| blaze | yofel clivejo https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/kdepim/+bug/1584288 | 05:50 |
| ubottu | Launchpad bug 1584288 in kdepim (Ubuntu) "Package kdepim-dbg is missing on Xenial" [Undecided,New] | 05:50 |
| snele | guys no news on kubuntu.org about plasma 5.6.4 update | 08:52 |
| Odur | Nice job with plasma 5.6.4! Upgrade went without any problems | 09:09 |
| BluesKaj | Hiyas all | 10:32 |
| clivejo | how do I go about getting libdrumstick updated - https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/libdrumstick ? | 10:39 |
| clivejo | I need 'drumstick-alsa>=1.0.1' to get this minuet to build | 10:41 |
| acheron88 | Rohan Garg has asked for it to be updated in debian https://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=824771 | 10:53 |
| ubottu | Debian bug 824771 in src:libdrumstick "libdrumstick: Please update libdrumstick to the new upstream release 1.0.2" [Normal,Open] | 10:53 |
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| clivejo | acheron88: do you know how to link a debian and LP one? | 11:03 |
| clivejo | Just opened a bug in LP | 11:04 |
| clivejo | 1584310 | 11:04 |
| clivejo | LP Bug 1584310 | 11:04 |
| ubottu | Launchpad bug 1584310 in libdrumstick (Ubuntu) "New upstream release available" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1584310 | 11:04 |
| clivejo | ah, think I worked it out | 11:06 |
| clivejo | shadeslayer: are you working on Apps 16.04.1 too? | 11:06 |
| clivejo | looks like someone was or intended to work on it - http://anonscm.debian.org/cgit/pkg-multimedia/libdrumstick.git | 11:08 |
| blaze | clivejo: have you seen my bug report? | 11:36 |
| IrcsomeBot | <Clifford> Blaze: what bug report? | 11:38 |
| blaze | this one https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/kdepim/+bug/1584288 | 11:39 |
| ubottu | Launchpad bug 1584288 in kdepim (Ubuntu) "Package kdepim-dbg is missing on Xenial" [Undecided,Confirmed] | 11:39 |
| === udot is now known as user250 | ||
| user250 | hello room | 12:04 |
| IrcsomeBot | <Clifford> I can't help there. PIM confuses the hell outta me | 12:09 |
| acheron88 | think PIM has dbgsym .ddeb files now instead? | 12:18 |
| user250 | sofar so good, running konsole -v Qt: 5.5.1 KDE Frameworks: 5.22.0 Konsole: 15.12.3 | 12:18 |
| user250 | and plasmashell -v plasmashell 5.6.4 | 12:19 |
| IrcsomeBot | <Clifford> Acheron88 yes they being migrated over to ddeb | 12:27 |
| IrcsomeBot | <Clifford> I forgot about that | 12:27 |
| acheron88 | clivejo: I fixed that recent document shortcut problem for me anyway https://bugs.kde.org/show_bug.cgi?id=363337#c1 | 14:34 |
| ubottu | KDE bug 363337 in Application Menu (Kicker) "Recent docs/history shortcuts in kicker/kickoff fail when clicked with "Could not find any application or handler..." error" [Normal,Unconfirmed] | 14:34 |
| acheron88 | have no clue if making that change will break anything else the kio maintainers intended though..... | 14:35 |
| IrcsomeBot | <Clifford> Do you have the patch? | 14:51 |
| acheron88 | nope. I just hacked a file after downloading the source and rebuilt the debs locally. just commented out the lines added by that partial diff from that commit | 14:55 |
| acheron88 | I'm not certain doing that won't break something else, as the kde maintainer obviously wrote those lines for a reason | 14:57 |
| acheron88 | I would imagine they will have a much better way to fix it | 14:58 |
| clivejo | acheron88: anyone from KDE commented on it? | 15:29 |
| acheron88 | not yet. may email the people who made those commits on Monday, if it stays quiet on it over the weekend | 15:31 |
| yotux | I was trying to make a package for the latest gnucash and was using auto-apt to resolve deps is there a better way to do this? | 16:05 |
| huihuh | Hi, I just figured out why the "Send file via KDE Connect" in Dolphin is not working in Kubuntu 16.04 (tldr: it's a small typo in "kdeconnectsendfile.desktop"). Is there any way to report this to the maintainers without creating a new account on a bugtracker or joining a mailing list? | 16:17 |
| clivejo | huihuh: whats the file path and what is the typo? | 16:26 |
| huihuh | long story short: in old versions a part of KDE Connect was called "kdeconnectfiletiemaction.so" which contains a typo. This file was renamed recently into the correct version, but somebody forgot to change the reference to it in this file is /usr/share/kservices5/kdeconnectsendfile.desktop In this desktop file there is the line X-KDE-Library=kdeco | 16:29 |
| huihuh | nnectfiletiemaction which should be changed to X-KDE-Library=kdeconnectfileitemaction | 16:29 |
| huihuh | so replacing the "ti" with "it" in this file fixes the problem for me | 16:30 |
| clivejo | ah, yes I remember that typo in the install files | 16:34 |
| yotux | what is the link about? | 16:38 |
| clivejo | link? | 16:38 |
| yotux | still failing ..... | 16:39 |
| clivejo | oh thats KCI | 16:39 |
| yotux | okay and what does KCI do? | 16:39 |
| clivejo | Kubuntu Continuous Integration | 16:39 |
| clivejo | it grabs the lastest software from KDE git repo and packages it in LaunchPad(LP) | 16:40 |
| yotux | okay I was reading about it | 16:42 |
| clivejo | but we are a bit behind at the moment and also moving our packaging to LP | 16:42 |
| yotux | so when it sends a still failing flag that means that a dev needs to fix the package? | 16:42 |
| clivejo | yotux: in theory yes | 16:43 |
| clivejo | kdepim is a beast to package | 16:43 |
| clivejo | not helped by it being split out into seperate packages | 16:44 |
| yotux | sorry for all the questions try to learn and find a way to help. google is great but sometimes leaves me say okay I still don't understand | 16:44 |
| clivejo | yotux: not a problem, if I can answer, I will :) | 16:44 |
| yotux | is there a tool to resolve deps from a source tar ball? | 16:45 |
| clivejo | just a quick look at breeze looks like they added two new files# | 16:45 |
| clivejo | yotux: I believe there is | 16:46 |
| clivejo | but I tend to just read the CMake files | 16:46 |
| clivejo | or even just build it in a pbuild environment | 16:47 |
| clivejo | note down what it complains about | 16:47 |
| yotux | from what I read one needs to run ./confgiure first them goto pbuild | 16:48 |
| clivejo | I find it easier to just package it up and throw it at pbuild | 16:49 |
| yotux | link: http://packaging.ubuntu.com/html/packaging-new-software.html | 16:51 |
| yotux | so you goto step 6.2 directly? | 16:51 |
| clivejo | most software is already packaged | 16:52 |
| acheron88 | that section is for software without already packaged versions in debian or ubuntu | 16:53 |
| clivejo | !info gnucash xenial | 16:53 |
| ubottu | gnucash (source: gnucash): personal and small-business financial-accounting software. In component universe, is extra. Version 1:2.6.12-1 (xenial), package size 2292 kB, installed size 10023 kB | 16:53 |
| clivejo | we have version 2.6.12 in the archive | 16:53 |
| clivejo | so I tend to go grab that packaging and update it | 16:54 |
| huihuh | æclivejo | 16:54 |
| huihuh | @clivejo: what would be the best way to report the problem about kde connect i mentioned above? | 16:54 |
| clivejo | huihuh: probably the mailing list | 16:54 |
| huihuh | ok, will try it there, thx! | 16:55 |
| acheron88 | yotux: ditto as clivejo says when I'm making a few 'modifications' to a package for my own use | 16:55 |
| clivejo | huihuh: https://mail.kde.org/mailman/listinfo/kdeconnect | 16:56 |
| clivejo | huihuh: we could correct it in packaging for 16.04LTS, so if you have LP could you open a bug please? | 16:58 |
| yotux | acheron88: I see that the package in the repo is older than what is released so I was trying to package and have it updated into the repos | 16:58 |
| huihuh | @clivejo which package? there is kdeconnect and kdeconnect-plasma which seem to do the same thing? I guess that kdeconnect-plasma is supposed to replace kdeconnect? | 16:59 |
| clivejo | kdeconnect is KDE4 and kdeconnect-plasma is Plasma5 | 16:59 |
| huihuh | ok, then I will add a bug report to kdeconnect-plasma later tonight, thx for the help | 17:00 |
| clivejo | I don’t know why they are linked, that was a decision someone else made | 17:00 |
| clivejo | huihuh: have you a LP account? | 17:01 |
| huihuh | @clivejo no yet, but since I plan to participate a bit more in kde/kubuntu in the future I will make an account later. first I have to do some shopping and cooking and all that kind of stuff ;) | 17:02 |
| clivejo | can you sub me to that bug when you do? | 17:04 |
| huihuh | will do! | 17:04 |
| acheron88 | yotux: the version number listed for gnucash 1:2.6.12-1 indicates it's an unmodified sync from the Debian version | 17:07 |
| yotux | okay | 17:07 |
| acheron88 | so to update in ubuntu would need any new version from debian into the ubuntu repos | 17:07 |
| acheron88 | or debian updated and then to ubuntu | 17:08 |
| acheron88 | I think? | 17:08 |
| yotux | so just so I understand 1: means debain, and the -1 is ubuntu | 17:09 |
| mitya57 | 1: means epoch, -1 is Debian revision | 17:10 |
| acheron88 | the 1: is an epoch, used in both debian and ubuntu | 17:10 |
| acheron88 | -1 is debian version | 17:11 |
| yotux | okay | 17:11 |
| acheron88 | then ubuntu appends ubuntu and a number after if the modify what debain did | 17:11 |
| acheron88 | *debian | 17:12 |
| clivejo | yotux: you should check to see if debian have the latest version packaged | 17:14 |
| acheron88 | clivejo: the plasma kicker/kickoff dev has cc'd that bug I reported to the author of that commit | 17:14 |
| acheron88 | so I hope they can give a fix that can go into FW 5.22 or plasma | 17:15 |
| clivejo | hopefully they publish a fix and we can patch it | 17:15 |
| acheron88 | latest gnucash in debian https://packages.debian.org/stretch/gnucash | 17:17 |
| clivejo | anyone on Yakkety with a throw away box? | 19:10 |
| DarinMiller | clivejo: I am. | 19:26 |
| clivejo | would you mind trying a test install of apps? | 19:27 |
| DarinMiller | np. Box currently has no PPA's. Just test apps? | 19:28 |
| clivejo | yes please | 19:28 |
| clivejo | just testing installablity | 19:28 |
| soee | clivejo: but there are 3 packages that failed to build | 19:29 |
| clivejo | I know | 19:30 |
| clivejo | just want to see it PIM installs | 19:30 |
| soee | this huge hoge ? :) | 19:31 |
| soee | *hog | 19:31 |
| DarinMiller | installing now 300+ packages.... | 19:36 |
| darin | clivejo: https://paste.kde.org/pket1gryh | 20:13 |
| DarinMiller | clivejo: none of the app install errors seemed related to the build fails. Were error something you were anticipating? | 20:27 |
| IrcsomeBot | <Clifford> Does kontact load? | 20:47 |
| clivejo | DarinMiller: those errors are probably due to copied FW we needed to make it build | 20:50 |
| DarinMiller | clivejo: Totally killed the install. Want me to re-install and add fm staging? | 20:58 |
| clivejo | no no its fine | 21:00 |
| clivejo | did kontact run? | 21:00 |
| DarinMiller | Many apps disappeared after the install error, I did not try to run kontact. Reboot produced black screen where I can only log in via ctrl-alt-f1 | 21:02 |
| IrcsomeBot | <Clifford> disappeared? | 21:02 |
| DarinMiller | Yes, stuff like kinfocenter was gone and several other items that were in the system menu, I did not poke around much before I tried the reboot. | 21:04 |
| DarinMiller | I can ppa-purge, re-install apps-stagin, and see if kontact is there and runs. | 21:04 |
| DarinMiller | wait, running sudo apt-get -f install now... lots of packages were left hanging.... | 21:05 |
| DarinMiller | had to manually connect to my network via command line. but finishing the apps-staging install did not recover the system.... gwenview and specticle had unmet depends.... reinstalling YY. | 21:24 |
| valorie | sounds pretty bad, DarinMiller | 21:29 |
| DarinMiller | valorie: it was expected, clivejo wanted me to test a sketchy YY apps-staging on a throwaway box and it went down in flames. YY re-install already complete.... | 21:32 |
| clivejo | DarinMiller: any apt errors? | 21:34 |
| DarinMiller | clivejo: Just what I posted earlier: https://paste.kde.org/pket1gryh | 21:35 |
| clivejo | nothing regarding apps there though | 21:36 |
| clivejo | qml-module-org-kde-extensionplugin_5.21.0 is frameworks | 21:36 |
| DarinMiller | maybe I should have added the fm staging ppa? | 21:37 |
| DarinMiller | I can try again. In that session, I think I was still on 5.5.5 as I did not have any PPAs installed. | 21:38 |
| clivejo | few install problems | 21:45 |
| clivejo | well most of the apps I use are working | 21:49 |
| clivejo | konsole, dolphin, kontact | 21:49 |
| DarinMiller | installing updates landing now... had to sudo apt-get -f upgrade to make it work around the same 5.21.0-0ubuntu1~ubuntu16.10~ppa2 issue as before.... | 21:51 |
| clivejo | did you do a dist upgrade | 21:58 |
| clivejo | FW5.22 and Plasma5.6.4 should be in the archive | 21:59 |
| clivejo | well most of them | 21:59 |
| valorie | dist-upgrade? | 22:13 |
| valorie | isn't full-upgrade always advised these days? | 22:13 |
| clivejo | dunno | 22:14 |
| clivejo | I use dist cause it is bit more intelligent and gives me better errors | 22:15 |
| DarinMiller | Hmmm YY box does not like updates landing PPA either. Black screen on reboot, sddm/x fails to start. Jumping out a prompt works but not sure what to check from there... | 22:18 |
| clivejo | I think something else is wrong on your install | 22:19 |
| clivejo | apps shouldn’t interfere with sddm etc | 22:19 |
| DarinMiller | Understood. Fresh install with formatted root directory. YY PPA updates have worked fine up until today. Maybe need to format the home partition, but I don't see how that would cause issue with X or SDDM either. | 22:24 |
| clivejo | KDE know about the KDE connect problem | 22:25 |
| DarinMiller | I will re-install and format both root and home. | 22:25 |
| clivejo | that should be patched in 16.04 | 22:25 |
| DarinMiller | My KDE connect notifications are working fine on 16.04, checking file browsing now.... | 22:26 |
| clivejo | its the dolphin intregation | 22:26 |
| DarinMiller | File browsing works fine too. | 22:26 |
| DarinMiller | in Dolphin | 22:26 |
| clivejo | when you menu over a file in dolphin there is supposed to be a menu entry to send to you device | 22:26 |
| DarinMiller | File copy worked fine. | 22:27 |
| clivejo | its missing due to a type | 22:27 |
| clivejo | typo | 22:27 |
| huihuh | I am submitting the bugreport for this at the moment ^^ | 22:27 |
| clivejo | huihuh: its already reported on kde | 22:27 |
| clivejo | https://bugs.kde.org/show_bug.cgi?id=362684 | 22:28 |
| ubottu | KDE bug 362684 in common ""Send file via KDE Connect service" does not appear on file context menu despite being enabled in dolphin" [Major,Resolved: fixed] | 22:28 |
| clivejo | but if you could open one on LP, so I can try and get it patched | 22:28 |
| clivejo | if you can open the bug here - https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/kdeconnect-plasma | 22:28 |
| huihuh | On it! | 22:30 |
| valorie | easiest way to file a bug is in the cli: `ubuntu-bug kdeconnect` | 22:31 |
| valorie | super slick | 22:31 |
| * valorie goes off to do some prep for dad's memorial service | 22:31 | |
| DarinMiller | Oh, I saw that error earlier today and edited kdeconnectsendfile.desktop. That's why mine working fine. | 22:31 |
| clivejo | dont file against kdeconnect thought | 22:31 |
| clivejo | LOL | 22:31 |
| * clivejo throws stuff at DarinMiller | 22:31 | |
| DarinMiller | LOL | 22:31 |
| clivejo | needs to go against kdeconnect-plasma | 22:32 |
| clivejo | I think kdeconnect isnt maintained any more | 22:32 |
| huihuh | When you install kdeconnect-plasma it also tells you to install kdeconnect. This is super confusing and it took me a few minutes to realize that kdeconnect is most likely the version for KDE4 | 22:38 |
| clivejo | agreed | 22:38 |
| clivejo | I dont know why that is | 22:38 |
| clivejo | it confused me for a long time too | 22:38 |
| huihuh | How does stuff like this work? Who decides to dis-entangle them? I am completely new to all of this... | 22:39 |
| clivejo | usually debian | 22:39 |
| huihuh | What would be the proper procedure for something like this? Write a suggestion to some debian mailing list? | 22:40 |
| clivejo | mmm Im actually asking in the Debian channel | 22:41 |
| clivejo | probably wont get an answer today | 22:41 |
| huihuh | ah, ok | 22:41 |
| clivejo | #debian-qt-kde | 22:42 |
| huihuh | btw, I created the bug report on launchpad and added you | 22:42 |
| clivejo | but its on OTFC network | 22:42 |
| clivejo | so I see | 22:42 |
| huihuh | If you don't mind some additional stupid questions: what is more likely to happen in such a case: waiting that a new version is released upstream which fixes the bug or somebody "here" decides that this bug is too serious and it should be fixed sooner? | 22:44 |
| clivejo | well the upstream version can only go into yakkety | 22:45 |
| clivejo | a patch will have to be created for Xenial | 22:45 |
| clivejo | called a SRU | 22:45 |
| clivejo | https://wiki.ubuntu.com/StableReleaseUpdates | 22:46 |
| clivejo | quite a long process! | 22:46 |
| clivejo | could a few other testers please log your confirmation of this bug | 22:51 |
| huihuh | Thx for the link, as a normal user I never really thought about what's going on behind the scenes | 22:53 |
| clivejo | well done on spotting it | 22:54 |
| clivejo | I use KDE connect a lot and I never noticed that! | 22:55 |
| huihuh | I use that function all the time because my phone has only 8 gb of storage. Therefore I was pretty annoyed when it stopped working. I could easily deal with all the plasma crashes from half a year ago, but not being able to copy pictures of fluffy cats to my phone... -.- | 22:57 |
| clivejo | that would make one very angry indeed | 22:59 |
| clivejo | huihuh: it affects Debian too | 23:12 |
| clivejo | https://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=824970 | 23:12 |
| ubottu | Debian bug 824970 in kdeconnect ""Send file via KDE Connect service" does not appear on file context menu despite being enabled in dolphin" [Normal,Open] | 23:12 |
| clivejo | so by reporting it you are helping two distributions get it fixed! | 23:14 |
| DarinMiller | OK. YY reinstalled all normal updates complete, reboot work fine. Which if any PPA's do you want me to test. | 23:16 |
| DarinMiller | ? | 23:16 |
| clivejo | just the apps one | 23:16 |
| DarinMiller | OK, here we go again... :) | 23:16 |
| clivejo | there are four issues on mine | 23:17 |
| clivejo | which Im trying to fix | 23:17 |
| clivejo | libkf5kipi31.0.0, kf5-messagelib-data, libkf5mailcommon-plugins, libkf5sane5 | 23:18 |
| clivejo | libinsane more like | 23:20 |
| DarinMiller | LOL | 23:21 |
| clivejo | too tired to do this, Im off to bed | 23:21 |
| DarinMiller | OK, I will report back tomorrow. | 23:21 |
| clivejo | Ill wait about for a while | 23:21 |
| clivejo | can chat via Telegram | 23:21 |
| DarinMiller | 26% complete ...... 31%..... | 23:22 |
| DarinMiller | 50%.... | 23:22 |
| DarinMiller | Oh, no errors this time.... | 23:23 |
| DarinMiller | It uninstalled my entire plasma desktop !!!! | 23:25 |
| clivejo | :/ | 23:25 |
| DarinMiller | I have not rebooted yet either.... | 23:26 |
| clivejo | maybe some packages are still stuck in proposed or something | 23:26 |
| DarinMiller | but I can get it back by sudo apt install plasma-workspace (or so the message says....) | 23:26 |
| DarinMiller | plasma workspace depends on kactivities but it is not going to be installed. | 23:27 |
| clivejo | thats an old version | 23:27 |
| DarinMiller | I have held and broken packages.... | 23:27 |
| clivejo | you must have a mix of old and new packages | 23:27 |
| DarinMiller | I used the zsynced ISO for today's download, performed a full update, rebooted then added the apps staging repo and ran sudo apt full-upgrade -y | 23:29 |
| DarinMiller | Not sure where the new/old mix would have come from .... | 23:29 |
| DarinMiller | I can try on a different box, but I expect the same results. | 23:29 |
| clivejo | the archive | 23:30 |
| clivejo | Scarlett uploaded plasma 5.6.4 | 23:30 |
| clivejo | but parts of it will be stuck | 23:30 |
| clivejo | you could try adding FW staging, upgrading, disabling, then add plasma staging, upgrading, disable and finally apps | 23:31 |
| DarinMiller | 5.6.4 was uploaded to where? Main ISO? | 23:31 |
| clivejo | archive | 23:32 |
| DarinMiller | OK trying FW.... while i sitll have a working console. | 23:32 |
| DarinMiller | I don't understand archive. Is that the main repo? | 23:32 |
| clivejo | yes | 23:33 |
| clivejo | yeah, its stuck in proposed | 23:33 |
| clivejo | https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/plasma-workspace | 23:33 |
| clivejo | !info plasma-workspace | 23:34 |
| ubottu | plasma-workspace (source: plasma-workspace): Plasma Workspace for KF5. In component universe, is optional. Version 4:5.5.5.2-0ubuntu1 (yakkety), package size 7154 kB, installed size 33045 kB | 23:34 |
| clivejo | version in proposed is 4:5.6.4-0ubuntu1 | 23:34 |
| DarinMiller | !info libkf5screen6 | 23:40 |
| ubottu | libkf5screen6 (source: libkscreen): library for screen management - shared library. In component universe, is extra. Version 4:5.5.5-0ubuntu1 (yakkety), package size 146 kB, installed size 589 kB | 23:40 |
| DarinMiller | !info libkf5screen7 | 23:41 |
| ubottu | Package libkf5screen7 does not exist in yakkety | 23:41 |
| DarinMiller | !info libkf5screen7 xenial | 23:41 |
| ubottu | Package libkf5screen7 does not exist in xenial | 23:41 |
| DarinMiller | I had to add app, fm and plasma staging PPA's in order to re-install plasma-workspace..... | 23:48 |
| IrcsomeBot | <Clifford> Plasma 5.6.4 uses libkf5screen7 | 23:51 |
| DarinMiller | BTW, I was able to run kontact from the terminal. My kicker menu is messed up as I am missing a qml module | 23:52 |
| DarinMiller | !info libkf5screen7 yachety | 23:53 |
| ubottu | 'yachety' is not a valid distribution: kubuntu-backports, kubuntu-experimental, kubuntu-updates, partner, precise, precise-backports, precise-proposed, stable, testing, trusty, trusty-backports, trusty-proposed, unstable, utopic, utopic-backports, utopic-proposed, vivid, vivid-backports, vivid-proposed, wily, wily-backports, wily-proposed, xenial, xenial-backports, xenial-proposed, yakkety, yakkety-backports, yakkety-proposed | 23:53 |
| IrcsomeBot | <Clifford> Its not in yakkety yet | 23:53 |
| DarinMiller | OK. | 23:53 |
| IrcsomeBot | <Clifford> Getting stuff into archive is slow and painful | 23:58 |
| DarinMiller | Yes. I want to be able to help with that but my work schedule keeps getting in the way. At the end of the day when I am off work, the dev team is heading off to bed. | 23:59 |
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