[03:10] http://www.ebay.de/itm/272245749800 === Bray90820_ is now known as bray90820 === bray90820 is now known as Bray90820 [08:12] hey, seems to be stuck on the loading dots on my nexus 4 - I could adb shell in and most things seem to have started okay - ideas? [08:40] OsakaFoo: what channel are you using? [08:48] stable, just tried dev now [08:48] with dev I can't get adb shell :/ [08:50] I think dev is generally "known broken". I was wondering if you were running that in the first place [08:51] before I flashed it with stable, I got a similar issue booking to android stock - stuck on the orbs [08:51] But once I was able to boot into stable play around, then I reboted the device andit getss stuck [08:52] That sounds very odd [08:53] I also left it overnight on the loading screen hah [08:54] shall give stable another shot [09:09] which is the best log file [09:09] re my isssue :P [09:11] is it possible to see what it is waiting on? [09:41] buntu sdk and emulator were running in previous ubuntu 15.10(upgraded from 15.04) . Did clean install of 16.04 and touch emulator gets stuck at 'Choose passcode' screen on first time boot. Next did clean install ubuntu 15.10 , still same issue. anyone has clues on how to get it working? [10:08] hello people [10:09] how is actually QML licensing used by Ubuntu Touch? [10:09] I mean, does Canonical pay for the license to Digia? [10:33] mcphail: its working now [10:33] after I tried to install stable twice and it fained [10:33] failed* [10:34] I went to give CM a go, installed twm, failed to boot CM, but used twm to clear lots of things - installed stable again woo [11:04] What's utouch perspective on IM? Are we going to get something running atop telepathy? [11:04] brunch875: telegram is nice [11:04] I get the impression messaging protocols are slowly decaying in favor of closed, proprietary stuff such as whatsapp or facebook chat [11:04] :s [11:06] Yeah, it's very nice indeed. But I'm curious if we'll have a central hub using the system "accounts" [11:06] Same program to send SMS, telegrams and gtalks [11:06] ota 12 will be nice, but not sure of the plans for this [11:07] yeah... priorities :D [11:07] what's coming with ota12? [11:08] brunch875: think there was an article about it on omgubuntu.com [11:09] oh ota11 sorry [11:09] I'm only finding up to ota10 [11:11] if I recall correctly it was about snappy things, but my information is very limited [11:11] brunch875: http://www.omgubuntu.co.uk/2016/05/ubuntu-touch-scopes-even-better-dash-browser [11:13] aaaah yes I've read this one! [11:14] Really looking forward to it [11:15] : ) [11:15] same here [11:15] i would love ubuntu-touch to be more customizable aswell [11:15] leave the user the choice more [11:16] I've never been a big fan of widgets/scopes [11:17] well some scopes are handy [11:17] but if the team pulls it out well, we might see the desktop get replaced [11:17] so instead of the desktop pointing to a folder, you'll have your scopes there [11:27] brunch875: i hope things get customizable :p [11:29] Watching the video I've come to realize just how polished utouch is [11:29] it looks very very good [11:29] i love my bq 4.5 :p [11:29] I love mine too! [11:30] brunch875: what kind of scopes do you use? [11:31] Mostly the news and nearby ones [11:31] i got softpedia linux,500p wallpapers,lxer,alternate appstore,weather app [11:32] For I prefer launching the weather app itself [11:32] or the music program to listen to music [11:32] but I've got to admit it's amazing to get results from soundcould [11:33] nice [11:33] but to be honest I prefer the unity dash in the desktop [11:33] hit super+M and it shows music results [11:34] if soundcloud results showed up, it'd be just perfect [11:35] :p [11:45] For me, the ideal behaviour of scopes/unity dash would be to have a very accesible shortcut in which to search for content from different configurable sources (ala small plugins) which then launches the default program on that content [11:46] Like separating two different layers: "searcher" and "runner" [11:49] From this perspective, I believe the gallery application should become a scope instead. And on the other hand have a program which limits itself to opening pictures [11:50] but I guess it's very complicated to draw a line between where one thing begins and the other ends [11:50] isnt there a photo's scope? [11:51] yes, but what I mean is the photo scope overlaps a bit with what the app does [11:51] right [11:51] it's like some superset (kind of) [13:05] those new scope designs look great... i really dont like the solid white for desktop thoug, much preferred the transparency of unity 7 dash :P [13:06] i really cant see how the desktop version of the unity 8 dash will, y'know, make for a good desktop thing so far, im hoping thatll improve [13:51] brunch875: AFAIK they are working on an API for adding IM protocols, but I'm not sure when it will be ready :) [13:52] :D [13:52] is it based on telepathy or something new? [13:55] they said the API would be simpler than telepathy, but it can't be plain telepathy because they need to protect IM protocols from each other IIRC [13:57] that's fantastic news [13:57] hopefully it's something somewhat compatible with existing plugins [13:57] I assume that is so that e.g. Skype can't read your Jabber messages, etc. [14:04] I'd like to buy a phone to use with Ubuntu Phone but every model I checked out is currently out of stock. Which ones are currently available? [14:05] apparently this "outlet" thing has them available [14:06] but I don't know if it means second-hand or what [14:07] they are very new 2nd hand I guess [14:07] brunch875: link? [14:08] https://store.bq.com/es/ubuntu-edition-e-4-5-outlet [14:08] apparently it 'could come' with some minor issues [14:08] e.g. returned by customers because they don't like it or such [14:09] on the bright side it's much cheaper [14:09] it seems like that's only for the spanish shop... checking out [14:10] but if it helps you know, I took little care of my device (dropped to ground, put in pocket with coins...) and it is good as new [14:10] as soon as I enter my country it becomes unavailable [14:10] so I'd say it's very unlikely to receive a scratched one [14:11] allizom: did you try ordering on the outlet store without changing the language? [14:11] JanC: no, because it says about shipping in spain [14:12] I don't know whether they ship outside of it [14:14] ah yes, they now only allow Spain for shipping from the outlet store [14:14] I'm pretty sure they gave other choices in the past [14:15] JanC: is there any other model available? [14:17] or I could buy the android version of, for instance, the meizu pro 5 and flash it with ubuntu phone [14:17] you can even buy the android version of the aquaris [14:18] but as I've heard, you have to repartition the device to do that [14:18] and I haven't seen any guides laying around nor how to get the repartitioning software from bq [14:19] I'm currently reading the guide for flashing ubuntu, I'd like to make sure I can follow it before committing to the purchase [14:20] allizom: the bq Ubuntu phones will probably be back in stock at some time [14:21] you could try to contact bq and/or subscribe for notification in the store [14:22] JanC: I'd rather not wait for an indefinite time as this would be a gift [14:22] right, so then maybe try to contact them [14:23] are there differences between the android and ubuntu editions of the meizu pro 5? such as locked bootloader or else? [14:23] the meizu has more locks, doesn't it? [14:23] the bq phone is pretty open [14:23] hasn't given me any trouble [14:24] brunch875: which kind of locks? [14:24] the bootloader, I think [14:24] but don't trust my word fully [14:24] hm [14:24] I'm only repeating rumours :P [14:26] allizom: if this is a present, you are aware that Ubuntu Touch is still in development, right? :) [14:26] JanC: of course, thanks for the reminder :) [14:26] as in: no whatsapp :D [14:27] But I think I'm going to tinker more with it than the giftee [14:27] and a lot of other stuff missing or a bit rough on the edges really [14:27] yes I know [14:30] so I could 1) contact bq for informations about restocking and/or buy an android edition device and flash it. Is 2) feasible? Have any of you tried it? [14:30] I mean with a device with a corresponding ubuntu edition [14:31] which is as of now unavailable [14:31] hi [14:31] allizom: I know some people flashed the bq 4.5 from stock android to Ubuntu. Don't know if the device is still on sale [14:32] I reset my phone, in the new set up wizard, what is preferred name!? [14:35] I reset my phone, in the new set up wizard, what is preferred name!? [14:36] hasan: I don't understand the question [14:39] Sorry, in the new set up wizard on my Aquaris E4.5, I see new field, Preferred Name for personalized device [14:39] it is host-name!? [14:39] I think so [14:43] Help [14:43] Sup peps....anyone here? [14:44] !ask | Gprince [14:44] Gprince: Please don't ask to ask a question, simply ask the question (all on ONE line and in the channel, so that others can read and follow it easily). If anyone knows the answer they will most likely reply. :-) See also !patience [14:44] Hello! [14:45] I want to install ubuntu on my samsumg tablet, how can i do that. [14:45] It currently runs andriod 5.1.1 [14:46] That's going to be a bit complicated, since ubuntu isn't ready for all devices out of the box [14:47] Complicated but not impossible right.? [14:47] !devices | Gprince [14:47] Gprince: You can find the full list of devices, official images, community images, and works in progress at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Touch/Devices [14:48] Am all about complications....an will to give it a try, i just need the right steps to follow. [14:48] You'll have more info over there; I'm not really experienced in that [14:48] Ok...thanks. [14:49] But actually..thats where i was before i got here. [14:49] And the steps there didnt work out for me. [14:49] But thanks for your help. [14:50] Which device is your tablet? [14:50] Its samsung galaxy note 10.1 exynos 3g 2014 [14:51] Lattest flagship.😄 [14:51] oh! It seems that there's a working port for that [14:51] lucky! [14:52] Ohh....really... [14:52] Please how? [14:54] well, apparently you have to use the command phablet-flash community --device [14:55] Ok . So how do i do that. [14:56] You have and guide or steps? [14:56] do you have ubuntu on your desktop/laptop? [14:56] sounds like it's going to be easier if you do that [14:57] link after link I found this video [14:57] https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Riw3ybLYKSs [14:57] But it's as old as 2013... [14:57] Yes i do on my laptop, but its on a virtual box. [14:58] three years have passed... I'm not sure I'd recommend it [14:58] You think it will work.? [14:59] it probably will... but it's very old and there's probably broken stuff [14:59] it's a bit of a gamble [15:01] And from what I've heard, ubuntu touch uses android 4 drivers so I'm not really sure how good it'll get along with android 5+ [15:02] Yhh...i read that also, but since its been updated, so i thought the drivers too must have been also updated. [15:03] it's not really supported by ubuntu [15:03] some random guy spent his free time to make it work, but it isn't something official [15:04] Ohh great. [15:04] And this random guy did he share his ideas on how he did it. [15:05] well, it's like making cyanogenmod work on devices [15:05] you ever been around xda-developers? [15:06] And hope installing it wont alter my bootloader, so incase things to south i can easily restore my previous backup. [15:06] Yhh...am a senior member on xda. [15:06] Probably, but here are no warranties! [15:06] the thread for this device is here [15:07] http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2168999 [15:08] of course you can always start porting yourself :D [15:08] https://developer.ubuntu.com/en/phone/devices/porting-new-device/ [15:09] Hmmm...here comes my homework. [15:09] This will definately delay the release of my new rom port...😅 [15:10] :D [15:12] Lol.... [15:13] Thanks brunch... [15:14] heh, I wish I knew more to be more helpful :P [15:14] BRUNCH.......sounds like u love pizza.😜 [15:14] My real name is Bruno! [15:14] It is saturday so the ubuntu crew is hibernating [15:14] Nice name. [15:15] Bruno am Gabriel....nice to meet you. [15:15] Likewise! [15:16] Are u on xda.? [15:16] No, I'm not really a dev... [15:16] the hardest I ever did was change bootloader and flash cyanogen on my old galaxy S [15:16] (and I soft bricked it on the process) [15:17] Lol....that was cool. [15:18] But u should try it sometime...its fun though a bit frustrating. [15:18] I wish I had more time [15:19] I'd create a decent game for utouch [15:19] Ohh.... [15:19] What about programming languages? [15:19] U know any? [15:19] Seems u are also a lover a linux also. [15:20] born in C and grown in java [15:20] but only recently finished my studies [15:20] once you know these, higher level languages like python are easy [15:20] Ohh....i think today is my day. [15:23] Are u on telegram or whats app. I can learn more from u..am actuall a java playboy but c...am just new in that. [15:25] I'd rather talk on irc. Feel free to message me around here and I'll lend you a hand if I'm available! [15:26] Ohh....no p. [15:27] Do u have a device currently running U.T [15:27] Yeah, I bought the utouch aquaris e4.5 [15:29] Ok... [15:29] Once again thanks...hope to meet u again. [15:29] See you around! I always use this nick :Þ [15:30] Ok. As i too. [15:50] Brunch [15:53] Brunch...u there? [16:49] hello! [16:49] I've gone through the installation process for the nexus 7, now I'm at a screen that says "this phone needs restoring from a pc or service center" [16:50] should I just wait? [18:11] how do you save file in nano using terminal app? i mean, how do you trigger ^X [18:14] if you click the thing on the far left on the options button in the termnal app above your keyboard [18:14] hold your thumb on it [18:14] a popup should come up - move thumb to 'nano' [18:14] then nano keybindings come up [18:14] one of them is ctrl-x [18:14] i think theres also a ctrl-x on the default one though i could be wrong [18:16] sorry i can't find this "thing" lol [18:16] there is ctrl-x in the default [18:16] i mean, there isnt* [18:17] far left on the options button above ur keyboard.... [18:18] yeah, its like an orange square with a black numpad logo in it [18:18] press and hold it, a little popup comes up [18:18] oh ok i have SCR, FNS, CTRL and CMD [18:19] no nano options [18:19] the very top theres no nano? :( [18:19] no [18:19] lol [18:19] weird... what OTA you on? [18:19] how can i see that? sorry i just got my phone [18:19] meizu pro5 [18:19] hmm i dunno about neizu [18:19] meizu even [18:19] lemme google [18:20] in those SCR, FNS, CTRL, CMD options, mine also has 'nano' [18:21] Acou_Bass: OTA 10-2 [18:21] ubuntu 15.04 [18:22] im just trying to ssh into the phone, but i need to edit sshd_config lol [18:22] or maybe it's easier to wget my public key from somewhere [18:22] theres probably a way to add custom keysets to it [18:22] + yeah i just did that, no need to edit sshd [18:29] i ws sure ther was a way to edit the keysets on the terminal.... cant remember how and cant find it [18:29] XD [18:43] Acou_Bass: u think it's safe to install packages from xenial? cause i can't find many packages in vivid :\ [18:43] you mean packages with apt-get? id so no to begin with there before even doing cross-release installing :P [18:43] Hi, anyone know where the logs for pulseaudio should be? or how i can find out why it hasn't started ? [18:44] syslog i'd say [18:44] mine is started with --log-target=syslog option [18:45] all i have in there is "ubuntu-phablet pulseaudio[2347]: [pulseaudio] main.c: Daemon startup failed." [18:46] tried to start it in foreground and see if it crashes? [18:46] my cmdline is: pulseaudio --start --log-target=syslog [18:47] it'll be fine if i reboot my phone, i'm just trying to figure out why randomly pulse+media-hub+indicator-sound don't start on my device [18:48] it'll be fine even if you start manually after failing? [18:49] Acou_Bass: what OTA are you? [18:50] yeah starting it manually it seems to have worked i get "[pulseaudio] pid.c: Stale PID file, overwriting." and then something about bluez but the process has stayed running [18:51] peraphs you had a stale pid file and it didnt overwrote it at boot [18:51] but i really dont know sorry [18:51] yeah idk, i'll have a talk with the media guys in the week, thanks for the pointers :-) === xiinotulp is now known as plutoniix [19:58] I see the utouch system settings on the desktop is getting progress [19:58] gjjjj!! [20:01] Hi [20:03] I reset my Aquaris E4.5 Ubuntu Edition, in the all new set up wizard I have a field that I don't know how to fill it? Preferred name (at last step: Personalized your device) [20:03] I check it, it is not related to host-name [20:03] host name is default as ubuntu-phablet [20:07] I reset my Aquaris E4.5 Ubuntu Edition, in the all new set up wizard I have a field that I don't know how to fill it? Preferred name (at last step: Personalized your device) [20:15] i presume it's the device name used in bluetooth perhaps [20:17] but bluetooth not changed yet! [22:24] s`: im using stable OTA on nexus 4 === JanC_ is now known as JanC [23:28] Please how can i use prxt on the ubuntu touch. [23:30] prxt? whatsthat [23:48] hello! [23:49] I'm still stuck with this message "This phone needs restoring from a PC or a service center" [23:50] I'm installing it on a nexus 7 that has stock android 6.0.1; do I need to go back to 4.4 in order to make this work? [23:55] I'm going through the CurrencyConverter tutorial, but the uris for the xml feed and namespace seem to have changed. Is this updated anywhere?