[03:10] <Snoovar> http://www.ebay.de/itm/272245749800
[08:12] <OsakaFoo> hey, seems to be stuck on the loading dots on my nexus 4 - I could adb shell in and most things seem to have started okay - ideas?
[08:40] <mcphail> OsakaFoo: what channel are you using?
[08:48] <OsakaFoo> stable, just tried dev now
[08:48] <OsakaFoo> with dev I can't get adb shell :/
[08:50] <mcphail> I think dev is generally "known broken". I was wondering if you were running that in the first place
[08:51] <OsakaFoo> before I flashed it with stable, I got a similar issue booking to android stock - stuck on the orbs
[08:51] <OsakaFoo> But once I was able to boot into stable play around, then I reboted the device andit getss stuck
[08:52] <mcphail> That sounds very odd
[08:53] <OsakaFoo> I also left it overnight on the loading screen hah
[08:54] <OsakaFoo> shall give stable another shot
[09:09] <OsakaFoo> which is the best log file
[09:09] <OsakaFoo> re my isssue :P
[09:11] <OsakaFoo> is it possible to see what it is waiting on?
[09:41] <lesamourai>  buntu sdk and emulator were running in previous ubuntu 15.10(upgraded from 15.04) . Did clean install of 16.04 and touch emulator gets stuck at 'Choose passcode' screen on first time boot.  Next did clean install ubuntu 15.10 , still same issue. anyone has clues on how to get it working?
[10:08] <nganu> hello people
[10:09] <nganu> how is actually QML licensing used by Ubuntu Touch?
[10:09] <nganu> I mean, does Canonical pay for the license to Digia?
[10:33] <OsakaFoo> mcphail: its working now
[10:33] <OsakaFoo> after I tried to install stable twice and it fained
[10:33] <OsakaFoo> failed*
[10:34] <OsakaFoo> I went to give CM a go, installed twm, failed to boot CM, but used twm to clear lots of things - installed stable again woo
[11:04] <brunch875> What's utouch perspective on IM? Are we going to get something running atop telepathy?
[11:04] <lotuspsychje> brunch875: telegram is nice
[11:04] <brunch875> I get the impression messaging protocols are slowly decaying in favor of closed, proprietary stuff such as whatsapp or facebook chat
[11:04] <brunch875> :s
[11:06] <brunch875> Yeah, it's very nice indeed. But I'm curious if we'll have a central hub using the system "accounts"
[11:06] <brunch875> Same program to send SMS, telegrams and gtalks
[11:06] <lotuspsychje> ota 12 will be nice, but not sure of the plans for this
[11:07] <brunch875> yeah... priorities :D
[11:07] <brunch875> what's coming with ota12?
[11:08] <lotuspsychje> brunch875: think there was an article about it on omgubuntu.com
[11:09] <lotuspsychje> oh ota11 sorry
[11:09] <brunch875> I'm only finding up to ota10
[11:11] <brunch875> if I recall correctly it was about snappy things, but my information is very limited
[11:11] <lotuspsychje> brunch875: http://www.omgubuntu.co.uk/2016/05/ubuntu-touch-scopes-even-better-dash-browser
[11:13] <brunch875> aaaah yes I've read this one!
[11:14] <brunch875> Really looking forward to it
[11:15] <lotuspsychje> : )
[11:15] <lotuspsychje> same here
[11:15] <lotuspsychje> i would love ubuntu-touch to be more customizable aswell
[11:15] <lotuspsychje> leave the user the choice more
[11:16] <brunch875> I've never been a big fan of widgets/scopes
[11:17] <lotuspsychje> well some scopes are handy
[11:17] <brunch875> but if the team pulls it out well, we might see the desktop get replaced
[11:17] <brunch875> so instead of the desktop pointing to a folder, you'll have your scopes there
[11:27] <lotuspsychje> brunch875: i hope things get customizable :p
[11:29] <brunch875> Watching the video I've come to realize just how polished utouch is
[11:29] <brunch875> it looks very very good
[11:29] <lotuspsychje> i love my bq 4.5 :p
[11:29] <brunch875> I love mine too!
[11:30] <lotuspsychje> brunch875: what kind of scopes do you use?
[11:31] <brunch875> Mostly the news and nearby ones
[11:31] <lotuspsychje> i got softpedia linux,500p wallpapers,lxer,alternate appstore,weather app
[11:32] <brunch875> For I prefer launching the weather app itself
[11:32] <brunch875> or the music program to listen to music
[11:32] <brunch875> but I've got to admit it's amazing to get results from soundcould
[11:33] <lotuspsychje> nice
[11:33] <brunch875> but to be honest I prefer the unity dash in the desktop
[11:33] <brunch875> hit super+M and it shows music results
[11:34] <brunch875> if soundcloud results showed up, it'd be just perfect
[11:35] <lotuspsychje> :p
[11:45] <brunch875> For me, the ideal behaviour of scopes/unity dash would be to have a very accesible shortcut in which to search for content from different configurable sources (ala small plugins) which then launches the default program on that content
[11:46] <brunch875> Like separating two different layers: "searcher" and "runner"
[11:49] <brunch875> From this perspective, I believe the gallery application should become a scope instead. And on the other hand have a program which limits itself to opening pictures
[11:50] <brunch875> but I guess it's very complicated to draw a line between where one thing begins and the other ends
[11:50] <lotuspsychje> isnt there a photo's scope?
[11:51] <brunch875> yes, but what I mean is the photo scope overlaps a bit with what the app does
[11:51] <lotuspsychje> right
[11:51] <brunch875> it's like some superset (kind of)
[13:05] <Acou_Bass> those new scope designs look great... i really dont like the solid white for desktop thoug, much preferred the transparency of unity 7 dash :P
[13:06] <Acou_Bass> i really cant see how the desktop version of the unity 8 dash will, y'know, make for a good desktop thing so far, im hoping thatll improve
[13:51] <JanC> brunch875: AFAIK they are working on an API for adding IM protocols, but I'm not sure when it will be ready  :)
[13:52] <brunch875> :D
[13:52] <brunch875> is it based on telepathy or something new?
[13:55] <JanC> they said the API would be simpler than telepathy, but it can't be plain telepathy because they need to protect IM protocols from each other IIRC
[13:57] <brunch875> that's fantastic news
[13:57] <brunch875> hopefully it's something somewhat compatible with existing plugins
[13:57] <JanC> I assume that is so that e.g. Skype can't read your Jabber messages, etc.
[14:04] <allizom> I'd like to buy a phone to use with Ubuntu Phone but every model I checked out is currently out of stock. Which ones are currently available?
[14:05] <brunch875> apparently this "outlet" thing has them available
[14:06] <brunch875> but I don't know if it means second-hand or what
[14:07] <JanC> they are very new 2nd hand I guess
[14:07] <allizom> brunch875: link?
[14:08] <brunch875> https://store.bq.com/es/ubuntu-edition-e-4-5-outlet
[14:08] <brunch875> apparently it 'could come' with some minor issues
[14:08] <JanC> e.g. returned by customers because they don't like it or such
[14:09] <brunch875> on the bright side it's much cheaper
[14:09] <allizom> it seems like that's only for the spanish shop... checking out
[14:10] <brunch875> but if it helps you know, I took little care of my device (dropped to ground, put in pocket with coins...) and it is good as new
[14:10] <allizom> as soon as I enter my country it becomes unavailable
[14:10] <brunch875> so I'd say it's very unlikely to receive a scratched one
[14:11] <JanC> allizom: did you try ordering on the outlet store without changing the language?
[14:11] <allizom> JanC: no, because it says about shipping in spain
[14:12] <allizom> I don't know whether they ship outside of it
[14:14] <JanC> ah yes, they now only allow Spain for shipping from the outlet store
[14:14] <JanC> I'm pretty sure they gave other choices in the past
[14:15] <allizom> JanC: is there any other model available?
[14:17] <allizom> or I could buy the android version of, for instance, the meizu pro 5 and flash it with ubuntu phone
[14:17] <brunch875> you can even buy the android version of the aquaris
[14:18] <brunch875> but as I've heard, you have to repartition the device to do that
[14:18] <brunch875> and I haven't seen any guides laying around nor how to get the repartitioning software from bq
[14:19] <allizom> I'm currently reading the guide for flashing ubuntu, I'd like to make sure I can follow it before committing to the purchase
[14:20] <JanC> allizom: the bq Ubuntu phones will probably be back in stock at some time
[14:21] <JanC> you could try to contact bq and/or subscribe for notification in the store
[14:22] <allizom> JanC: I'd rather not wait for an indefinite time as this would be a gift
[14:22] <JanC> right, so then maybe try to contact them
[14:23] <allizom> are there differences between the android and ubuntu editions of the meizu pro 5? such as locked bootloader or else?
[14:23] <brunch875> the meizu has more locks, doesn't it?
[14:23] <brunch875> the bq phone is pretty open
[14:23] <brunch875> hasn't given me any trouble
[14:24] <allizom> brunch875: which kind of locks?
[14:24] <brunch875> the bootloader, I think
[14:24] <brunch875> but don't trust my word fully
[14:24] <allizom> hm
[14:24] <brunch875> I'm only repeating rumours :P
[14:26] <JanC> allizom: if this is a present, you are aware that Ubuntu Touch is still in development, right?  :)
[14:26] <allizom> JanC: of course, thanks for the reminder :)
[14:26] <brunch875> as in: no whatsapp :D
[14:27] <allizom> But I think I'm going to tinker more with it than the giftee
[14:27] <JanC> and a lot of other stuff missing or a bit rough on the edges really
[14:27] <allizom> yes I know
[14:30] <allizom> so I could 1) contact bq for informations about restocking and/or buy an android edition device and flash it. Is 2) feasible? Have any of you tried it?
[14:30] <allizom> I mean with a device with a corresponding ubuntu edition
[14:31] <allizom> which is as of now unavailable
[14:31] <hasan> hi
[14:31] <mcphail> allizom: I know some people flashed the bq 4.5 from stock android to Ubuntu. Don't know if the device is still on sale
[14:32] <hasan> I reset my phone, in the new set up wizard, what is preferred name!?
[14:35] <hasan> I reset my phone, in the new set up wizard, what is preferred name!?
[14:36] <brunch875> hasan: I don't understand the question
[14:39] <hasan> Sorry, in the new set up wizard on my Aquaris E4.5, I see new field, Preferred Name for personalized device
[14:39] <hasan> it is host-name!?
[14:39] <brunch875> I think so
[14:43] <Gprince> Help
[14:43] <Gprince> Sup peps....anyone here?
[14:44] <brunch875> !ask | Gprince
[14:44] <brunch875> Hello!
[14:45] <Gprince> I want to install ubuntu on my samsumg tablet, how can i do that.
[14:45] <Gprince> It currently runs andriod 5.1.1
[14:46] <brunch875> That's going to be a bit complicated, since ubuntu isn't ready for all devices out of the box
[14:47] <Gprince> Complicated but not impossible right.?
[14:47] <brunch875> !devices | Gprince
[14:48] <Gprince> Am all about complications....an will to give it a try, i just need the right steps to follow.
[14:48] <brunch875> You'll have more info over there; I'm not really experienced in that
[14:48] <Gprince> Ok...thanks.
[14:49] <Gprince> But actually..thats where i was before i got here.
[14:49] <Gprince> And the steps there didnt work out for me.
[14:49] <Gprince> But thanks for your help.
[14:50] <brunch875> Which device is your tablet?
[14:50] <Gprince> Its samsung galaxy note 10.1 exynos 3g 2014
[14:51] <Gprince> Lattest flagship.😄
[14:51] <brunch875> oh! It seems that there's a working port for that
[14:51] <brunch875> lucky!
[14:52] <Gprince> Ohh....really...
[14:52] <Gprince> Please how?
[14:54] <brunch875> well, apparently you have to use the command phablet-flash community --device <vendor>
[14:55] <Gprince> Ok <brunch>. So how do i do that.
[14:56] <Gprince> You have and guide or steps?
[14:56] <brunch875> do you have ubuntu on your desktop/laptop?
[14:56] <brunch875> sounds like it's going to be easier if you do that
[14:57] <brunch875> link after link I found this video
[14:57] <brunch875> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Riw3ybLYKSs
[14:57] <brunch875> But it's as old as 2013...
[14:57] <Gprince> Yes i do on my laptop, but its on a virtual box.
[14:58] <brunch875> three years have passed... I'm not sure I'd recommend it
[14:58] <Gprince> You think it will work.?
[14:59] <brunch875> it probably will... but it's very old and there's probably broken stuff
[14:59] <brunch875> it's a bit of a gamble
[15:01] <brunch875> And from what I've heard, ubuntu touch uses android 4 drivers so I'm not really sure how good it'll get along with android 5+
[15:02] <Gprince> Yhh...i read that also, but since its been updated, so i thought the drivers too must have been also updated.
[15:03] <brunch875> it's not really supported by ubuntu
[15:03] <brunch875> some random guy spent his free time to make it work, but it isn't something official
[15:04] <Gprince> Ohh great.
[15:04] <Gprince> And this random guy did he share his ideas on how he did it.
[15:05] <brunch875> well, it's like making cyanogenmod work on devices
[15:05] <brunch875> you ever been around xda-developers?
[15:06] <Gprince> And hope installing it wont alter my bootloader, so incase things to south i can easily restore my previous backup.
[15:06] <Gprince> Yhh...am a senior member on xda.
[15:06] <brunch875> Probably, but here are no warranties!
[15:06] <brunch875> the thread for this device is here
[15:07] <brunch875> http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2168999
[15:08] <brunch875> of course you can always start porting yourself :D
[15:08] <brunch875> https://developer.ubuntu.com/en/phone/devices/porting-new-device/
[15:09] <Gprince> Hmmm...here comes my homework.
[15:09] <Gprince> This will definately delay the release of my new rom port...😅
[15:10] <brunch875> :D
[15:12] <Gprince> Lol....
[15:13] <Gprince> Thanks brunch...
[15:14] <brunch875> heh, I wish I knew more to be more helpful :P
[15:14] <Gprince> BRUNCH.......sounds like u love pizza.😜
[15:14] <brunch875> My real name is Bruno!
[15:14] <brunch875> It is saturday so the ubuntu crew is hibernating
[15:14] <Gprince> Nice name.
[15:15] <Gprince> Bruno am Gabriel....nice to meet you.
[15:15] <brunch875> Likewise!
[15:16] <Gprince> Are u on xda.?
[15:16] <brunch875> No, I'm not really a dev...
[15:16] <brunch875> the hardest I ever did was change bootloader and flash cyanogen on my old galaxy S
[15:16] <brunch875> (and I soft bricked it on the process)
[15:17] <Gprince> Lol....that was cool.
[15:18] <Gprince> But u should try it sometime...its fun though a bit frustrating.
[15:18] <brunch875> I wish I had more time
[15:19] <brunch875> I'd create a decent game for utouch
[15:19] <Gprince> Ohh....
[15:19] <Gprince> What about programming languages?
[15:19] <Gprince> U know any?
[15:19] <Gprince> Seems u are also a lover a linux also.
[15:20] <brunch875> born in C and grown in java
[15:20] <brunch875> but only recently finished my studies
[15:20] <brunch875> once you know these, higher level languages like python are easy
[15:20] <Gprince> Ohh....i think today is my day.
[15:23] <Gprince> Are u on telegram or whats app. I can learn more from u..am actuall a java playboy but c...am just new in that.
[15:25] <brunch875> I'd rather talk on irc. Feel free to message me around here and I'll lend you a hand if I'm available!
[15:26] <Gprince> Ohh....no p.
[15:27] <Gprince> Do u have a device currently running U.T
[15:27] <brunch875> Yeah, I bought the utouch aquaris e4.5
[15:29] <Gprince> Ok...
[15:29] <Gprince> Once again thanks...hope to meet u again.
[15:29] <brunch875> See you around! I always use this nick :Þ
[15:30] <Gprince> Ok. As i too.
[15:50] <Gprince> Brunch
[15:53] <Gprince> Brunch...u there?
[16:49] <kristofer> hello!
[16:49] <kristofer> I've gone through the installation process for the nexus 7, now I'm at a screen that says "this phone needs restoring from a pc or service center"
[16:50] <kristofer> should I just wait?
[18:11] <s`> how do you save file in nano using terminal app? i mean, how do you trigger ^X
[18:14] <Acou_Bass> if you click the thing on the far left on the options button in the termnal app above your keyboard
[18:14] <Acou_Bass> hold your thumb on it
[18:14] <Acou_Bass> a popup should come up - move thumb to 'nano'
[18:14] <Acou_Bass> then nano keybindings come up
[18:14] <Acou_Bass> one of them is ctrl-x
[18:14] <Acou_Bass> i think theres also a ctrl-x on the default one though i could be wrong
[18:16] <s`> sorry i can't find this "thing" lol
[18:16] <s`> there is ctrl-x in the default
[18:16] <s`> i mean, there isnt*
[18:17] <s`> far left on the options button above ur keyboard....
[18:18] <Acou_Bass> yeah, its like an orange square with a black numpad logo in it
[18:18] <Acou_Bass> press and hold it, a little popup comes up
[18:18] <s`> oh ok i have SCR, FNS, CTRL and CMD
[18:19] <s`> no nano options
[18:19] <Acou_Bass> the very top theres no nano? :(
[18:19] <s`> no
[18:19] <s`> lol
[18:19] <Acou_Bass> weird... what OTA you on?
[18:19] <s`> how can i see that? sorry i just got my phone
[18:19] <s`> meizu pro5
[18:19] <Acou_Bass> hmm i dunno about neizu
[18:19] <Acou_Bass> meizu even
[18:19] <s`> lemme google
[18:20] <Acou_Bass> in those SCR, FNS, CTRL, CMD options, mine also has 'nano'
[18:21] <s`> Acou_Bass: OTA 10-2
[18:21] <s`> ubuntu 15.04
[18:22] <s`> im just trying to ssh into the phone, but i need to edit sshd_config lol
[18:22] <s`> or maybe it's easier to wget my public key from somewhere
[18:22] <Acou_Bass> theres probably a way to add custom keysets to it
[18:22] <Acou_Bass> + yeah i just did that, no need to edit sshd
[18:29] <Acou_Bass> i ws sure ther was a way to edit the keysets on the terminal.... cant remember how and cant find it
[18:29] <Acou_Bass> XD
[18:43] <s`> Acou_Bass: u think it's safe to install packages from xenial? cause i can't find many packages in vivid :\
[18:43] <Acou_Bass> you mean packages with apt-get? id so no to begin with there before even doing cross-release installing :P
[18:43] <ahayzen> Hi, anyone know where the logs for pulseaudio should be? or how i can find out why it hasn't started ?
[18:44] <s`> syslog i'd say
[18:44] <s`> mine is started with --log-target=syslog option
[18:45] <ahayzen> all i have in there is "ubuntu-phablet pulseaudio[2347]: [pulseaudio] main.c: Daemon startup failed."
[18:46] <s`> tried to start it in foreground and see if it crashes?
[18:46] <s`> my cmdline is:  pulseaudio --start --log-target=syslog
[18:47] <ahayzen> it'll be fine if i reboot my phone, i'm just trying to figure out why randomly pulse+media-hub+indicator-sound don't start on my device
[18:48] <s`> it'll be fine even if you start manually after failing?
[18:49] <s`> Acou_Bass: what OTA are you?
[18:50] <ahayzen> yeah starting it manually it seems to have worked i get "[pulseaudio] pid.c: Stale PID file, overwriting." and then something about bluez but the process has stayed running
[18:51] <s`> peraphs you had a stale pid file and it didnt overwrote it at boot
[18:51] <s`> but i really dont know sorry
[18:51] <ahayzen> yeah idk, i'll have a talk with the media guys in the week, thanks for the pointers :-)
[19:58] <brunch875> I see the utouch system settings on the desktop is getting progress
[19:58] <brunch875> gjjjj!!
[20:01] <MacBook> Hi
[20:03] <MacBook> I reset my Aquaris E4.5 Ubuntu Edition, in the all new set up wizard I have a field that I don't know how to fill it? Preferred name (at last step: Personalized your device)
[20:03] <MacBook> I check it, it is not related to host-name
[20:03] <MacBook> host name is default as ubuntu-phablet
[20:07] <MacBook> I reset my Aquaris E4.5 Ubuntu Edition, in the all new set up wizard I have a field that I don't know how to fill it? Preferred name (at last step: Personalized your device)
[20:15] <dobey> i presume it's the device name used in bluetooth perhaps
[20:17] <MacBook> but bluetooth not changed yet!
[22:24] <Acou_Bass> s`: im using stable OTA on nexus 4
[23:28] <MVP> Please how can i use prxt on the ubuntu touch.
[23:30] <Acou_Bass> prxt? whatsthat
[23:48] <kristofer> hello!
[23:49] <kristofer> I'm still stuck with this message "This phone needs restoring from a PC or a service center"
[23:50] <kristofer> I'm installing it on a nexus 7 that has stock android 6.0.1; do I need to go back to 4.4 in order to make this work?
[23:55] <podbay> I'm going through the CurrencyConverter tutorial, but the uris for the xml feed and namespace seem to have changed.  Is this updated anywhere?