[07:38] <Guest48003> morning all
[07:38] <MooDoo> morning even
[08:07] <zmoylan-pi> morning Guest48003
[09:05] <brobostigon> morning boys and girls.
[13:14] <diddledan> daftykins: that rick astley + nirvana is awesome
[13:14] <diddledan> from yesterday
[15:17] <knightwise> hey foobarry
[15:17] <knightwise> hows it hangin
[17:14] <CoolKevin> wow this latest version is seriously bad
[17:15] <CoolKevin> hardly anything works
[17:19] <Switches> Hmm had very few problems with it myself on any of my machines. Everything bar AMD is no problem (AMD isn't 16.04s fault though)
[17:21] <CoolKevin> I cannot get any flash player to work
[17:22] <CoolKevin> that is only 1 problem, I do not have the typing skills to list them all
[17:23] <Switches> Well for the Flash stuff I know "sudo apt install flashplugin-installer" works from terminal as I'm watching youtube with it at the mo
[17:23] <CoolKevin> ok thank you I will try that
[17:24] <Switches> For chromium it should should be erm "sudo apt install pepperflashplugin-nonfree"
[17:24] <daftykins> diddledan: :D sure is
[17:25] <Switches> If for some reason the installer one doesn't work try "sudo apt install flashplugin-nonfree" they are both the same but one may throw an error as the meta package changed
[17:27] <CoolKevin> I do not have a terminal box
[17:31] <daftykins> are you talking about ubuntu with unity?
[17:31] <daftykins> so normal ubuntu - or another flavour?
[17:32] <CoolKevin> normal ubuntu 16.04, that came with Linux Format magazine
[17:33] <CoolKevin> got the terminal box nowq
[17:33] <daftykins> so ctrl+alt+t should open a terminal emulator as normal, nothing different to usual
[17:33] <CoolKevin> now*
[17:33] <CoolKevin> I just had to dl it
[17:33] <daftykins> no, you never need to download it.
[17:33] <CoolKevin> I just did
[17:34] <CoolKevin> easier that way
[17:34] <daftykins> no, it's part of the stock install and *right there* so i think you're doing something very wrong.
[17:35] <CoolKevin> very possible, but if things was not changed so much
[17:36] <CoolKevin> I might have found it straightaway
[17:37] <daftykins> clicking dask and typing "term", mmm
[17:37] <CoolKevin> thank you guys that link you gave me worked    sudo apt install pepperflashplugin-nonfree
[17:37] <CoolKevin> I never typed before
[17:38] <CoolKevin> all I done was click on menu and scroll down
[17:40] <Switches> Well aslong as you got it sorted, that's what matters :)
[17:41] <CoolKevin> yes thank you kind sir
[17:41] <Switches> No worries anytime
[17:41] <CoolKevin> still a lot more to sort though
[17:41] <CoolKevin> this version of xchat sucks
[17:42] <daftykins> hexchat is newer.
[17:42] <Switches> Don't use Xchat tbh, always use Smuxi or Polaris
[17:42] <CoolKevin> the notifications is really poor
[17:42] <Switches> or is it polari..
[17:42] <CoolKevin> I think I saw polari
[17:42] <daftykins> graphics chips on the brain :)
[17:42] <Switches> Always :p
[17:48] <CoolKevin> I got hexchat now, at the moment I am a guest
[18:25] <SuperEngineer> [at the moment I am a ghost]
[18:25] <daftykins> :o
[18:25] <Switches> Good to know..
[18:25] <daftykins> made any phone progress SuperEngineer? :>
[18:26] <SuperEngineer> hmmm... just when I get all nicely decided, I get all horribly UNdecided again [a.k.a. "No"] ;-)
[18:27] <SuperEngineer> ...but if some nice person / shop / company sent me a phone to "try".....
[18:29] <daftykins> you can have this HTC One X+ 64GB for £50 :P
[18:35] <SuperEngineer> I'm sure you to sat say £30
[18:36] <SuperEngineer> Say £30  ;-p
[18:39] <daftykins> naah
[18:42] <penguin42> SuperEngineer: What are your criteria?
[18:44] <SuperEngineer> My criteria are: fits in pocket, is strong, has 8GB memory + SD card slot, and can crap on Google ;-)
[18:44] <SuperEngineer> ...oh, if only!
[18:44] <penguin42> SuperEngineer: I suggest you go into a bunch of phone shops and test the 'is strong' aspect and buy which ever one survives
[18:46] <diddledan> penguin42: won't the shops mind a trail of broken handsets?
[18:46] <SuperEngineer> tried that... still can't appear in some towns due to minor "police objections" [something to do with accidental damage to phones", apparently] ;-)
[18:46] <penguin42> diddledan: I don't know, but it would be good to watch SuperEngineer find out
[18:46] <SuperEngineer> [next time I'll post vids  ;-D
[18:47] <daftykins> they tend to all be chained to stands though
[18:47] <SuperEngineer> but my backside is not
[18:47] <penguin42> reminds me of https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fikfhYznqhw
[18:49] <SuperEngineer> that's not me!!!   I will keep denying that was me as long as the lawers ask me to
[18:49] <SuperEngineer> *lawyers
[18:52] <daftykins> that is very cringe
[18:53] <daftykins> wow 5 cops!
[18:53] <daftykins> that's one busy high-street :P
[18:54] <penguin42> Market street is one of the main shopping streets here
[18:55] <daftykins> bit shocking nobody sorts the idiot out
[18:57] <penguin42> shrug; he wasn't hurting any one, and it was a phone shop....
[18:57] <daftykins> wasting fire extinguishers could hurt :)
[19:00] <diddledan> Better not to intervene while he's only interested in criminal damage rather than hurting people.
[19:00] <diddledan> When someone is confronted by an untrained bystander things can get dangerous
[19:06] <SuperEngineer> Wimps!  That's not dangerous.  Danger = someone driving aone of those cars with 4 circles on the bonnet or with a 3 coloured circle on the bonnet ;-)
[19:07]  * Switches Thinks SuperEngineer has been playing to much Carmageddon
[19:07] <SuperEngineer> [may have been.........]
[20:35] <Switches> Ok I guess I won't try Gnome 3.20 just yet..
[21:05] <zmoylan-pi> and there's no such thing as too much carmageddon
[21:06] <Switches> rofl
[21:36] <diddledan> What shall we do with the something something, what shall we do with the something something, what shall we do with the something something something something morning
[21:36] <zmoylan-pi> too late to deal with it now...
[21:51] <daftykins> Switches: ooh nice! AMD press event may 31st
[21:52] <Switches> :o
[21:52] <zmoylan-pi> they're pulling out of the cpu market and going to move to making toasters... :-P
[21:53] <Switches> Aint seen that yet, just listening to Linux unplugged totally mess up exactly what the ZFS in Ubuntu is about ... Why do people still think its Oracles ZFS?
[21:54] <daftykins> i see some UK sites have listings now too
[21:54] <daftykins> http://www.ebuyer.com/store/Components/cat/Graphics-Cards-Nvidia/subcat/NVIDIA-GeForce-GTX-1080
[21:54]  * Switches Runs off to check
[21:54] <daftykins> £528 down here in rock land
[21:55] <Switches> ouch £633..
[21:55] <daftykins> for the Flawed Edition :)
[21:55] <Switches> yeah
[21:55] <daftykins> i've decided it's badly made given the power inputs being castrated
[21:56] <Switches> lol yeah a lot are saying thats holding back the OC'ing
[21:56] <Switches> Seen a few say they hope the custom boards add a six or eight pin extra
[21:57] <diddledan> Flawed edition?
[21:57] <penguin42> Switches: To answer your previous question; because it's still the code written by Oracle
[21:57] <Switches> Its Founders Edition, but its Flawed
[21:57] <daftykins> *nod* AIBs should fix it
[21:57] <Switches> Erm penguin42 it isn't the version they use is version 28 which was written by Sun before Oracles purchase
[21:58] <penguin42> Switches: That's splitting hairs; Oracle bought Sun->Hence it's Oracle's
[21:58] <penguin42> Switches: and they bought them ages ago as well, so fine if you want to call it Sun's zfs I won't argue
[21:59] <diddledan> It doesn't really matter though. It's the license that's in dispute
[22:00] <diddledan> Sun or Oracle, it's still CDDL
[22:03] <Switches> True
[22:06] <Switches> Hmm seems they got some more stuff going on aswell http://www.amd.com/en-us/press-releases/Pages/computex-2016-2016may19.aspx
[22:06] <Switches> 7th generation APU and Polaris
[22:09] <Switches> Should be an interesting Computex
[22:10] <diddledan> Isn't it computer that Sandra's Bullocks fixes the praetorians mess?
[22:10] <diddledan> Computex **
[22:11] <daftykins> i thought she was more known for breaking things?
[22:11] <Switches> Yeah it is
[22:12] <Switches> Its in Taiwan, a few of the tech shows I watch are going
[22:13] <Switches> Seems a lot are saying AMD will announce and show Bristol Ridge there
[22:14] <Switches> Which actually ties in with what daftykins was saying as its the 30th it starts I think..
[22:15] <zmoylan-pi> what would be the most exciting? amd making a portable chip? a new desktop processor? graphics cpu?
[22:15]  * Switches rubs hands
[22:16] <Switches> Well tbh if they are announcing both a new APU and Bristol Ridge that will be exciting, Although the graphics is more what I'm looking forward to
[22:17] <diddledan> None of the above. Most exciting would be making all their products available for free :-p
[22:17] <Switches> lol
[22:18] <zmoylan-pi> that's easy, you get your friends and family to buy them and run windows and in 6 months when it's an infected mess then you take it off their hands while they buy new stuff :-P
[22:18] <Switches> Got about the same chance of that as Intel releasing an "enthusiast" chip at a reasonable price :p
[22:19] <daftykins> :D
[22:20] <penguin42> haswell-e was OK wasn't it?
[22:20] <Switches> Haswell-E was fine, they got the newer Broadwell-E coming out the around £1500 i7-6950X >.<
[22:21] <daftykins> broadwell using a 6 as the first digit?
[22:21] <Switches> Tbh Sandy Bridge is still fine, let alone Haswell
[22:21] <penguin42> ouch 1500 is a bit much!
[22:21] <Switches> Yeah, don't understand that but hey
[22:22] <Switches> maybe they didn't want to be confused with a certain graphics chip xD
[22:22] <Switches> Intels HD7950X rofl
[22:24] <Switches> I did read somewhere though that the new Broadwells also have Iris Pro, rather than the Intel HD graphics
[22:25] <daftykins> makes sense
[22:31] <Switches> Yeah, they had them already on Ebay or something.. someone selling the Intel Confidential chips..
[22:31] <Switches> http://www.ebay.com/itm/Intel-i7-6950X-LGA2011-3-8C-16T-3GHz-25MB-L3-140W-for-X99-chipset-/111980028756?hash=item1a1287a354:g:1EoAAOSw-tNXH4eu
[22:31] <Switches> Almost $2000
[22:32] <daftykins> lul
[22:32] <daftykins> 140W >_<
[22:32] <Switches> Yeah
[22:32] <directhex> at least i already have x99!
[22:33] <Switches> I thought we were meant to be getting more power effiecient, guess not :p
[22:33] <zmoylan-pi> well you won't be able to afford acutal heating after buying this so it will help with the cold :-)
[22:33] <Switches> Rofl, thats so true
[22:33] <zmoylan-pi> version 2 will have a grill so you can make toast... :-P
[22:34] <Switches> hehe
[22:34] <directhex> there we go, H.D firmware release supports broadwell-e
[22:34] <Switches> Or an inbuilt George Foremans
[22:34] <Switches> I'll stick to my Xeons for now
[22:35] <penguin42> which xeons ?
[22:35] <directhex> i can just throw my haswell-e in the bin
[22:35]  * penguin42 takes directhex's bin
[22:36] <Switches> Got 5 here, really old dual server thats socket 771, dual E5620 and a E3-1270v2
[22:39] <Switches> Still trying to source a new board for the E5620s, but spent to much this month so prob be able to get one next month
[22:46]  * Switches needs to stop putting lighter next to usb stick..
[22:49] <Switches> Amount of times I've tried to light a ciggy with a usb stick is beyond belief today..
[22:53] <penguin42> usb sticks generally are safer
[22:54] <Switches> this is what I need http://coolmaterial.com/tech/usb-8gb-flash-drive-lighter/
[23:04] <diddledan> Switches: at least you haven't lit your computer yet
[23:04] <Switches> True
[23:12] <zmoylan-pi> obviously not cool enough for kevin... :-)
[23:14] <Switches> He was having some problems earlier, guess he didn't fix all of them
[23:17] <daftykins> still a bit puzzled as to how someone can't find the stock terminal
[23:17] <zmoylan-pi> the terminal scare people
[23:19] <Switches> Well bit hard to miss in Ubuntu yeah.. but still as zmoylan-pi said, scares some people
[23:19] <daftykins> well that one said they downloaded another
[23:19] <Switches> Thought he was on about the chat client?
[23:20] <Switches> Tbh was tabbing a bit once he said the pepperflash was working for him
[23:24] <Switches> Ohh Fermi cards finally got OpenGL 4.2..
[23:25] <Switches> Only three generations for the Nouveau to catch up on now >.<
[23:26] <Switches> Really wish Nvidia would give those guys a hand, rather than put up more blocks for them.. damn signed firmware >.<
[23:27] <daftykins> BFG! :P https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=y1fZg0hhBX8
[23:28] <Switches> rofl
[23:28] <Switches> Remember reading the book to my daughter when she was small..
[23:29] <daftykins> :)