| superfly | Maaz: tell Kilos good morning sleepy head | 06:10 |
|---|---|---|
| Maaz | superfly: Sure, I'll tell Kilos on freenode | 06:10 |
| Kilos | morning superfly and everyone else | 06:46 |
| mazal | Morning all , Môre oom Kilos | 06:49 |
| Kilos | hi mazal | 06:49 |
| mazal | Would installing this http://wire.kubuntu.org/?p=950 makes things even worse seeing as 5.5 is not even stable yet ? | 06:49 |
| Kilos | wait for superfly to check | 06:50 |
| Kilos | or inetpro | 06:50 |
| Kilos | hi goosie | 06:50 |
| mazal | Gaanit vanmôre oom ? | 06:51 |
| Kilos | goed dankie seun en jy | 06:51 |
| Kilos | net my voet seer | 06:51 |
| mazal | Okerig , het groot werk wat ek nie lus het voor nie :P | 06:52 |
| Kilos | oh draad ingesteek paar dae terug en dit kwaai seer nou , sit met voet in warm see water met engelse sout by | 06:52 |
| Kilos | watse werk | 06:53 |
| mazal | Ai nee eina. Ek moet my backup drive argiveer | 06:53 |
| Kilos | na waar | 06:53 |
| mazal | Doen hom so eenkeer 'n maand. Dis maar net 'n backup van die backup | 06:54 |
| Kilos | ok | 06:54 |
| Kilos | rsync? | 06:54 |
| mazal | Maar voel baoe lui vanmôre lol | 06:54 |
| mazal | yep grsync | 06:54 |
| Kilos | ek ken nie grsync nie | 06:55 |
| mazal | selle ding met gui | 06:55 |
| Kilos | ok | 06:55 |
| mazal | En jy kan jobs opstel | 06:55 |
| mazal | Dan select jy net die job elke keer en run | 06:55 |
| Kilos | ok | 06:56 |
| Kilos | ek het altyd net /home ge rsync | 06:56 |
| Kilos | groot pyn op die lappie wat nie extra skyf vat nie | 06:56 |
| Kilos | moet seker een dag n external kry weer | 06:57 |
| mazal | Ek gebruik hom al jare vir my home en data backups | 06:57 |
| Kilos | maar home het mos als in | 06:58 |
| Kilos | powwer gone | 07:00 |
| Kilos | wbb | 07:01 |
| paddatrapper | Kilos: ek het gister gestudeer en nou werk ek. Ek sal later hier wees, moenie worry nie | 08:39 |
| Kilos | geen probleem paddatrapper pas jou op | 08:46 |
| mazal | *sigh* anothger weekend without internet. irc is literally the only thing working | 09:06 |
| * pavlushka- same here | 09:08 | |
| mazal | Telscum's usual non-service delivery | 09:11 |
| mazal | Signal is so bad I can't even open email | 09:11 |
| theblazehen | mazal: can you reach local sites? | 09:18 |
| theblazehen | Try mtr home.theblazehen.com | 09:18 |
| theblazehen | Or just plain ping | 09:19 |
| theblazehen | Otherwise see if it responds to ssh | 09:20 |
| Kilos | sigh first power cut then connection issues | 09:39 |
| paddatrapper | Those two are usually connected. With the power cut throwing the Internet out | 10:01 |
| mazal | theblazehen, nope , can't even ping it | 10:03 |
| theblazehen | mazal: Might be blocking pings. No ssh then? | 10:13 |
| kulelu88 | superfly: you around? | 10:27 |
| mazal | theblazehen, first it said can't establish and then I could connect (ssh). It's my connections here that's the problem. Signal is all over the place | 10:29 |
| nlsthzn | england keeping SA in the hunt for the sevens crown... | 11:23 |
| Kilos | http://www.speedtest.net/my-result/5343153906 | 12:20 |
| Kilos | something happened | 12:20 |
| Kilos | mazal kyk | 12:23 |
| Kilos | ai! | 12:23 |
| theblazehen | Eish. Should never upgrade kernel if I'm not planning on rebooting | 12:26 |
| Kilos | sjoe another 100m upgrade | 12:27 |
| theblazehen | Won't detect usb flash disk now, but don't wanna reboot | 12:27 |
| Kilos | eish | 12:27 |
| theblazehen | > 14:27:11 up 7 days, 18:45, 2 users, load average: 7.55, 7.18, 6.80 | 12:27 |
| theblazehen | Not much, but I don't like rebooting | 12:27 |
| theblazehen | https://gist.github.com/27f7be0d0785814246110f39396384a0 uptime stats | 12:27 |
| theblazehen | Lots of reboots from when this used to be a vm | 12:28 |
| theblazehen | hey mazal | 12:32 |
| mazal | DC's all over today | 12:37 |
| mazal | See oom Kilos is also struggling | 12:37 |
| theblazehen | mazal: You on 3g right? | 12:38 |
| mazal | Telkom mobile yes | 12:38 |
| mazal | Best here is 3g , don't have a LTE tower | 12:38 |
| mazal | I'm seeing something really weird here | 12:42 |
| Kilos | what | 12:43 |
| mazal | The whole day so far , router connects to 3g for about 2 minutes , then goes down to unusable 2g for about 30 minutes , then disconnect completely with no signal | 12:43 |
| theblazehen | Interesting | 12:43 |
| mazal | Then it connects 3g again for about 2 minutes and repeats the cycle | 12:44 |
| * theblazehen hasn't googled as much as I thought this week. Only 366 google searches this week | 12:44 | |
| theblazehen | hmm | 12:44 |
| mazal | Now here come the strange part. | 12:44 |
| Kilos | seems here they are working on telkom mobile | 12:44 |
| theblazehen | mazal: What if you force it down to 2g, see if it gets stable? | 12:44 |
| Kilos | shoes connected but irc dies | 12:44 |
| Kilos | shows | 12:44 |
| mazal | Twice now , when it connects to that 3g I quickly go into something that's speed heavy , online mincraft in this case. Then it stays on 3g | 12:44 |
| mazal | So it almost looks like it connects , checks of there is use , if not disconnects to 2g , after while disconnect completely and repeat the cycle | 12:45 |
| mazal | Once there is heavy use it stays on 3g | 12:45 |
| Kilos | lol | 12:45 |
| mazal | Now how weird is that ! | 12:45 |
| mazal | What you wonna bet if I go out of the onine session in MC now it will disconnect back to 2g within 2 minutes | 12:46 |
| Kilos | what isp? | 12:46 |
| mazal | It's almost as if there is some auto-check now on our signal here with " if not in use disconnect " or something | 12:47 |
| mazal | Kilos, Telscum | 12:47 |
| Kilos | i think they are working on it mazal | 12:47 |
| mazal | The only thing they can work on is peoples nerves | 12:48 |
| theblazehen | mazal: What if you have a constant ping running? Low data usage, but constant | 12:48 |
| Kilos | ive disconnected 4 or 5 times already | 12:48 |
| Kilos | and got a wonderful speedtest just now | 12:48 |
| Kilos | did you go see the link | 12:48 |
| theblazehen | They might downgrade "inactive" sessions | 12:48 |
| mazal | This never happened before , and should not happen. If this is how it is though I will keep the bloody mc logged in all day | 12:49 |
| theblazehen | mazal: ping would be less data though | 12:49 |
| theblazehen | ping -i 5 8.8.8.8 | 12:49 |
| theblazehen | I think | 12:49 |
| Kilos | mazal go to http://www.speedtest.net/my-result/5343153906 | 12:49 |
| Kilos | check mine then test yours | 12:50 |
| theblazehen | You know there is a new speed test out? http://fast.com | 12:50 |
| mazal | And this makes the connection unusable , it's only works when there is HEAVY traffic. Browsing and email doesn't work and doesn't "activate" it then even | 12:50 |
| Kilos | i go see | 12:50 |
| mazal | And permanent irc is connected and that doesn't help either | 12:51 |
| mazal | The only thing keeping it up now is online gaming :( | 12:52 |
| mazal | Ok let's test the theory , been stable on 3g for 30 minutes while in MC online , lets close MC and leave just irc open and see what happens | 12:57 |
| mazal | And now it doesn't seem to dc again.....wts is going on | 13:05 |
| mazal | Kilos, http://www.speedtest.net/my-result/5343244873 , that's the speed I always get when connected to 3g and is the best it ever gets | 13:09 |
| Kilos | well lets hope they are working on it | 13:10 |
| mazal | Something is very wrong the last 3 days | 13:10 |
| mazal | This 40 minutes is the longest now that it actually worked since Thursday | 13:11 |
| Kilos | sjoe | 13:11 |
| theblazehen | mazal: Cell C is running a promotion, 100 mb data per month for 6 months free. Maybe try get one of those? | 13:12 |
| theblazehen | Not much, but better than nothing | 13:12 |
| mazal | theblazehen, I have an afrihost little backup account , but for some reason this 16.04 thing didn't even want to detect my dongle today when I tried. And it worked fine before :( | 13:16 |
| theblazehen | mazal: Using a different dongle now? | 13:16 |
| mazal | The issues on this release just doesn't end | 13:16 |
| theblazehen | Have you tried using wvdial? | 13:16 |
| theblazehen | Honsetly, *buntu gives me so many issues.. I even prefer fedora | 13:17 |
| mazal | theblazehen, no I am back on my main lan now that has the router | 13:17 |
| theblazehen | ah okay | 13:18 |
| theblazehen | Can't use the afrihost with it? | 13:18 |
| mazal | If it comes to that I will yes | 13:18 |
| mazal | Just so gatvol of struggling that I just left it | 13:18 |
| theblazehen | ya | 13:19 |
| mazal | Don't really want to struggle on a Saturday after a whole week of struggling with pc's at work | 13:20 |
| mazal | Hi Cryterion | 13:27 |
| Cryterion | heya | 13:27 |
| mazal | How goes | 13:27 |
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| Kilos | hi gremble | 14:52 |
| Kilos | you ok? | 14:52 |
| Kilos | im having connection issues so not seeing when peeps join | 14:53 |
| Kilos | im fine ty how are you? | 14:53 |
| gremble | I am alright thanks. Feeling better. Although I am developing quite a painful sinus headache | 14:53 |
| gremble | :/ | 14:53 |
| Kilos | ouch | 14:53 |
| gremble | It is pressing into my right eye hard enough to make it tear up haha | 14:54 |
| Kilos | listen | 14:55 |
| Kilos | im looking for the name of the stuff | 14:55 |
| Kilos | Bactroban ointment | 14:56 |
| Kilos | its for sinus but weirdly you rub some on your upper eyelids | 14:56 |
| Kilos | best thing for sinus probs | 14:56 |
| gremble | Yes, that is an antibiotic ointment. I think we have the generic version of it in the house somewhere. | 14:56 |
| gremble | I am going to do that right now | 14:56 |
| Kilos | get from chemist without script | 14:57 |
| Kilos | only by rubbing on eyelids can you clear sinusses, sinusprays and things dont work | 14:59 |
| Kilos | should take 30 mins to an hour then youll start blowing nos lots and it will clear then and headache should go as well | 15:00 |
| Kilos | nasal sprays clear only the nose area not into the sinus | 15:01 |
| Kilos | another thing you can do is find an empty nasal spray bottle and put sea water in it and sniff that | 15:17 |
| Kilos | when ever friends go to the coast for holidays we get them to bring back a large container with sea water and some sea sand in | 15:19 |
| Kilos | seasand keeps the water fresh | 15:19 |
| Kilos- | time to complain to telkom again | 16:09 |
| Kilos- | just lose connection even though nm shows connected | 16:09 |
| Kilos | ai! | 16:55 |
| Kilos | hi Cryterion | 17:12 |
| inetpro | goeie mirrag | 17:46 |
| inetpro | theblazehen: please explain how you get startups with no shutdowns | 17:47 |
| Kilos | hi inetpro | 17:47 |
| inetpro | ohi Kilos as well | 17:47 |
| theblazehen | inetpro: Notice the "bad" shutdowns. It would always freeze right before shutting down, needed a hard reset | 17:48 |
| inetpro | ahh... that explains it | 17:48 |
| theblazehen | Yeah. I should maybe find out why | 17:49 |
| inetpro | that's horrible | 17:49 |
| inetpro | check the logs | 17:49 |
| theblazehen | indeed. Especially because I can't reboot over ssh | 17:49 |
| inetpro | or check the console as it shuts down | 17:49 |
| paddatrapper | gremble: I've got the same headache. Started today. Change of season here we come | 17:50 |
| theblazehen | I think I have systemd only logging to ram | 17:50 |
| Kilos | eish paddatrapper | 17:50 |
| theblazehen | Everything seems normal, then display goes blank, not sure, but it might have that blank cursor around the size you'd expect with a 80x25 display | 17:50 |
| Kilos | you also suffer from sinus | 17:50 |
| paddatrapper | And I'm supposed to go diving on Tuesday! Doesn't look like that is going to happen | 17:50 |
| theblazehen | paddatrapper: That sucks | 17:51 |
| inetpro | theblazehen: your desktop? | 17:51 |
| theblazehen | inetpro: Yeah | 17:51 |
| paddatrapper | Kilos: Yeah. Inherited it from my father | 17:51 |
| theblazehen | Reminds me, need to rebuild vm host | 17:51 |
| Kilos | get bactronban and sea water | 17:51 |
| inetpro | press Esc during shutdown | 17:51 |
| theblazehen | Let me charge laptops, then get started on that.. | 17:51 |
| paddatrapper | Kilos: I will. Plenty of both around here! | 17:52 |
| theblazehen | inetpro: Not sure if that would help. Happens after keyboard powers down (usb), think I should try ps2? It happens after disks get synced etc though | 17:52 |
| Kilos | sniffing sea water gets minerals to the sinusses that heal them | 17:52 |
| Kilos | and bactroban on upper eye lids | 17:53 |
| Kilos | not up your nose | 17:53 |
| inetpro | theblazehen: http://askubuntu.com/questions/6122/how-to-see-whats-going-on-during-shutdown | 17:54 |
| inetpro | am not sure whether that is still valid | 17:54 |
| inetpro | things change way too often these days | 17:54 |
| Kilos | and way too fast | 17:54 |
| theblazehen | inetpro: I'm on arch. Don't have quiet set, and no splash screen either | 17:54 |
| theblazehen | I see normal shutdown messages, all seems good, then blank screen | 17:54 |
| inetpro | good, I always try to disable splash as well | 17:55 |
| * inetpro prefers to see startup and shutdown processes | 17:55 | |
| theblazehen | inetpro: You run ubuntu? | 17:55 |
| inetpro | which reminds me, I haven't changed it here yet since installing 16.04 | 17:55 |
| Kilos | he runs kubuntu | 17:56 |
| inetpro | am on kubuntu 16.04 | 17:56 |
| Kilos | sjoe you forgot that | 17:56 |
| inetpro | but I don't have a multi-screen environment | 17:56 |
| inetpro | think that is still the buggiest part of it if I read complains online | 17:57 |
| theblazehen | Ah, yes | 17:57 |
| inetpro | complaints* | 17:57 |
| inetpro | Kilos: what happens if you add salt to a cup full of ice? | 18:01 |
| Kilos | dunno | 18:02 |
| Kilos | what happens inetpro | 18:02 |
| inetpro | have you ever seen how they put salt to let snow melt away? | 18:02 |
| Kilos | nope | 18:02 |
| theblazehen | inetpro: Not a good idea.. | 18:02 |
| inetpro | it's actually fascinating | 18:03 |
| theblazehen | Well, dunno about in a cup | 18:03 |
| Kilos | i dont know why anyone would add salt to ice | 18:03 |
| inetpro | salt lowers the freezing point of water | 18:03 |
| inetpro | so it starts melting | 18:03 |
| Kilos | ok | 18:03 |
| theblazehen | Kilos: salt and ice challenge is a thing.. :/ | 18:03 |
| inetpro | but even more fascinating is what actually happens to the temperature of the water | 18:03 |
| Kilos | tell | 18:04 |
| Kilos | dont procrastinate | 18:04 |
| inetpro | my son has meassured it going down till -11.6 | 18:04 |
| Kilos | wow | 18:04 |
| inetpro | the more salty it becomes the lower the freezing point | 18:05 |
| inetpro | "a mixture of rock salt, ice, and water packed in the bucket around the ice cream mix can bring the temperature down as low as -21°C" | 18:07 |
| Kilos | sjoe | 18:07 |
| Kilos | like making your own freezer | 18:07 |
| inetpro | unfortunately it doesn't last for a very long time | 18:08 |
| inetpro | when all the ice has melted it will warm up again | 18:09 |
| paddatrapper | Eish | 18:09 |
| inetpro | I guess if you keep adding ice and salt you could keep it cold for quite some time | 18:10 |
| paddatrapper | At some point you may as well use a fridge | 18:12 |
| inetpro | and the opposite question to the schoolproject is, how do you use chemicals for heating up food safely | 18:12 |
| inetpro | reminded me of the days in the army | 18:13 |
| inetpro | interesting science in real life with the heat packs that we got in those days | 18:14 |
| paddatrapper | Got to be chemicals that leave no poisonous residue when they react I guess | 18:14 |
| paddatrapper | Or fine a way to contain them | 18:15 |
| inetpro | the answer to that lies in Aluminium and Calcium Carbonate | 18:15 |
| inetpro | uh oh! | 18:16 |
| paddatrapper | Power cut perhaps? | 18:17 |
| inetpro | shame | 18:17 |
| inetpro | wb Kilos | 18:18 |
| Kilos | ty inetpro so many disconnections today | 18:18 |
| Kilos | i dont know if the prob is here or if its telkoms data connection falling away | 18:20 |
| Kilos | nm shows still connected but everything loses online connection | 18:20 |
| Kilos | inetpro fix it | 18:20 |
| Kilos | must i rev telkom? | 18:20 |
| Kilos | ai! | 18:24 |
| Kilos | Maaz hi | 18:25 |
| * Maaz waves to Kilos | 18:25 | |
| magespawn | good evening | 18:30 |
| Kilos | hi magespawn | 18:30 |
| magespawn | hi Kilos, how's it going? | 18:34 |
| Kilos | ok ty magespawn and you | 18:35 |
| mazal | hi magespawn | 18:35 |
| magespawn | yup all good | 18:35 |
| magespawn | hey mazal | 18:35 |
| paddatrapper | Hey magespawn | 18:36 |
| superfly | . | 18:36 |
| Kilos | ohi superfly | 18:36 |
| mazal | And finally the archiving is finished | 18:37 |
| Kilos | yay | 18:37 |
| mazal | That took a while :P | 18:37 |
| Kilos | lol | 18:38 |
| mazal | 1.7tb usb to usb | 18:38 |
| superfly | mazal: the Kubuntu backports is the worst thing ever | 18:38 |
| superfly | mazal: do not install. I repeat, do not install. | 18:38 |
| mazal | superfly, copy that | 18:39 |
| * mazal bekyk die dak | 18:39 | |
| Kilos | lol | 18:39 |
| inetpro | wat is fount met die dak? | 18:40 |
| inetpro | fout* | 18:40 |
| mazal | Well if I can drill a hole through the ceiling , get cable through there , move 2 consoles to the upstairs , then I can add my little server downstairs | 18:40 |
| superfly | mazal: when my new hard drive for my netbook arrives, I'm getting rid of Kubuntu and installing Debian unstable with KDE | 18:40 |
| superfly | Debian unstable is more stable than Kubuntu | 18:41 |
| mazal | I dunno Debian , but have to agree on Kubuntu. | 18:41 |
| * mazal scared of Debian | 18:41 | |
| superfly | mazal: Debian is what Ubuntu *should* be | 18:41 |
| superfly | there's nothing to be scared of | 18:41 |
| mazal | Isn't it very difficult ? | 18:42 |
| superfly | difficult se voet | 18:42 |
| inetpro | superfly: what is your initial installation procedure, you download the dvd to start with? | 18:42 |
| mazal | I wanted to try it few times , but some online comments suggested it is a difficult OS. | 18:43 |
| inetpro | or you start with debian-8.4.0-amd64-netinst.iso ? | 18:43 |
| superfly | I started with the netinst ISO I think. I have uncapped, so bandwidth is not an issue for me | 18:46 |
| inetpro | I guess if Ubuntu is based on Debian unstable it will always be a bit behind Debian | 18:48 |
| superfly | https://wiki.debian.org/KDE#task | 18:48 |
| inetpro | the terms stable and unstable are very relative | 18:48 |
| superfly | inetpro: Kubuntu is a little ahead of Debian for the first few months, because they pull the latest from KDE (bugs and all) | 18:49 |
| inetpro | ah | 18:49 |
| superfly | and then it lags behind when unstable gets the latest KDE (minus afforementioned bugs) | 18:49 |
| superfly | unstable is a rolling distro, there are no releases like Kubuntu or Ubuntu | 18:49 |
| superfly | small, incremental upgrades = less things to go wrong | 18:50 |
| inetpro | but unstable is not Jessie, or is it? | 18:51 |
| * inetpro answering his self | 18:52 | |
| inetpro | "Debian Unstable (also known by its codename "Sid") is not strictly a release,..." https://wiki.debian.org/DebianUnstable | 18:52 |
| mazal | So if I read that right , unstable is always the latest | 18:56 |
| Kilos | ill stay on 14.04 till 16.04 is stable | 18:57 |
| * mazal beplan verder | 18:58 | |
| magespawn | mazal i have debian jessie on an old laptop, no problems so far | 18:59 |
| mazal | Think I must try it one day | 19:00 |
| magespawn | also have kali linux on two machines, which now skips ubuntu and goes striaght to debian | 19:00 |
| magespawn | straight | 19:00 |
| Kilos | id feel guilty going to ubuntu meetings from debian | 19:00 |
| mazal | Kilos hehehehe , not as dirty as I felt being here while I was still on Win lol | 19:01 |
| mazal | That just felt wrooooooong | 19:01 |
| Kilos | lol | 19:01 |
| mazal | Thankfully pc gaming days are behind now | 19:01 |
| Kilos | thats good, shows you have a conscience | 19:02 |
| Kilos | good lad | 19:02 |
| mazal | lol | 19:02 |
| mazal | I wonder how good this B315 wi-fi is.... | 19:03 |
| mazal | Maybe I don't need to drill a hole | 19:03 |
| Kilos | test it and stop wondering | 19:03 |
| * mazal bekyk big blue en haar tjommie | 19:03 | |
| Kilos | wifi battles through concrete | 19:04 |
| magespawn | mazal maybe ethernet over power is and idea | 19:04 |
| mazal | This is a really thick concrete ceiling/floor | 19:04 |
| magespawn | s/and/an | 19:04 |
| Kilos | eth | 19:04 |
| mazal | Kilos, why didn't you stop me from buying so much stuff man | 19:06 |
| Kilos | hahaha | 19:06 |
| Kilos | whew | 19:06 |
| mazal | magespawn, that is indeed | 19:06 |
| Kilos | sorry man | 19:06 |
| Kilos | eth over power is dicey imo | 19:06 |
| Kilos | surges can cook you pc | 19:07 |
| mazal | I have only heard of it , don't know it at all | 19:07 |
| paddatrapper | Kilos: How do you think I feel, helping organise a Debian conference, while only having run Ubuntu for about 2/3 weeks... | 19:08 |
| magespawn | surge arrest the power on both ends and the lan, and you be fairly safe | 19:08 |
| paddatrapper | I've had surges blow so many different things - from power supplies to on-board audio cards | 19:09 |
| Kilos | hahahaha @ paddatrapper | 19:09 |
| Kilos | just buy a proper eth cable the right length mazal | 19:10 |
| paddatrapper | The closest I've come to debian is running something loosely based on it as an app on my tablet so that I can ssh into an Arch box | 19:10 |
| Kilos | they not expensive and now you so rich with all the savings you wont feel it | 19:11 |
| paddatrapper | mazal: Where are you based again? I've got some excess CAT5 you can have | 19:11 |
| Kilos | he is here paddatrapper | 19:12 |
| paddatrapper | where is here Kilos? I'm assuming Gauteng | 19:13 |
| Kilos | mazal ask langjan he supplies eth to the lady over the road from him | 19:13 |
| Kilos | pretoria | 19:13 |
| paddatrapper | Ah, yeah sorry a little far then | 19:14 |
| mazal | Cullinan aka gat-gat | 19:14 |
| mazal | Kilos, cable is not a problem , it's getting it there. This place was built to last | 19:15 |
| Kilos | i think langjan paid 150 for 50 meters | 19:15 |
| Kilos | drill a hole man | 19:15 |
| Kilos | or run out a window and up the wall | 19:16 |
| mazal | Gonna test these girls's wi-fi with the B315 first and see | 19:16 |
| Kilos | dont find problems, find solutions | 19:16 |
| Kilos | lol | 19:16 |
| Kilos | ai! | 19:17 |
| mazal | Wat nou ai ? | 19:17 |
| Kilos | fly should be skaam | 19:17 |
| paddatrapper | mazal: If it is through a slab, then going out and around is probably easier. Just cut a grove into the outside and re-plaster when you're done (probably encase it in a PVC pipe so you can run more/remove it later) | 19:18 |
| Kilos | @ubuntu/member on debian | 19:19 |
| Kilos | sjoe | 19:19 |
| paddatrapper | lol | 19:20 |
| mazal | Making me lus to try stuff | 19:21 |
| Kilos | i wouldnt be able to look anyone in the eyes | 19:21 |
| mazal | And that's usually when I break stuff | 19:21 |
| Kilos | make your plans mazal then ask first before you go ahead | 19:21 |
| paddatrapper | I need to do the same thing eventually to run a connection or two downstairs. Just need to get round to doing it | 19:22 |
| mazal | I should have done it when we installed my cable for the downstairs lan , but didn't think I would need it one day | 19:22 |
| mazal | All Kilos's fault | 19:24 |
| mazal | He knows I must be supervised | 19:24 |
| Kilos | lol | 19:25 |
| Kilos | you getting like inetpro now | 19:25 |
| inetpro | uh, wat het ek gedoen? | 19:27 |
| Kilos | nothing, you are totally innocent | 19:27 |
| Kilos | wow kde even has a twitter widget | 19:32 |
| Kilos | night all. sleep tight | 19:40 |
| mazal | Nag oom , lekker slaap | 19:40 |
| paddatrapper | Night Kilos | 19:40 |
| Kilos | selle daar dankie | 19:40 |
| Kilos | see you all tomorrow | 19:40 |
| Kilos | be good and get enough sleep | 19:40 |
| magespawn | good night | 20:11 |
| mazal | Night all | 20:18 |
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