[00:03] <DarinMiller> back to normal on YY after installing kubuntu-desktop and plasma-workspace with all staging apps enabled.
[00:07] <DarinMiller> clivejo: kontact runs fine but I don't normally run it so I cannot say if all functions are present.  Did you want me to test anything else?
[10:53] <BluesKaj> Hi folks
[10:57] <mparillo> Hiyas. I booted my YY partition, and I noticed 5.6.4, but I do not remember enabling Staging on this real HW. Usually, I sudo add-apt-repository ppa:kubuntu-ppa/staging-plasma and then after updating, uncheck the box using the advanced option in Update Manager, but I do not see staging-unchecked. Did 5.6.4 actually land in YY, and does the topic need to be changed?
[11:03] <mparillo> Maybe more serious than my fading memory: On YY, alt f2 did not bring up krunner. alt f1 does bring up my application launcher.
[11:05] <acheron88> 5.6.4 is in yakkety-proposed for the main repos I think?
[11:06] <mparillo> acheron88: That is what I am guessing. I have checked my konsole command history, and I cannot find where I added the staging repository.
[11:06] <acheron88> yes, seems it is https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/plasma-desktop/4:5.6.4-0ubuntu1
[11:07] <mparillo> And normally, immediately afterwards, I usually un-check it in update manager, and it is not there at all. 
[11:08] <acheron88> if package versions are just 4:5.6.4-0ubuntu1 or similar without any ppa ending, then must be from the main archive
[11:11] <mparillo> acheron88: TY. Updated topic. Will post.
[11:12] <BluesKaj> I got 5.6.4 from staging-plasma ppa iirc
[11:13] <acheron88> yep, 5.6.4 for YY is in there. Or in 'proposed' for the main YY archive
[11:14] <acheron88> only have yakkety in a VM so far, so hadn't noticed
[11:16] <BluesKaj> I stay away from proposed 
[11:17] <mparillo> What does proposed mean. As I said, I think I got it automagicaly?
[11:25] <BluesKaj> mparillo, https://launchpad.net/~ubuntu-security-proposed/+archive/ubuntu/ppa
 Anyone on a updated yakkety (is FW5.22 and plasma 5.6.4
[11:38] <BluesKaj> yup
 Is it throw away?
[11:38] <BluesKaj> C ??lifford
[11:39] <BluesKaj> :-) oops
[11:39] <BluesKaj> throw away?
 Ie non production and you don't mind it getting trashed
[11:40] <BluesKaj> it hasn't trashed my system , but I'm on the 4.6 kernel
 I'm not saying it has. I'm asking if anyone has a system they don't mind getting trashed
[11:41] <BluesKaj> due to the inability of nvidia drivers to build on the default kernel
 I can't help you with kernel issues or nvidia
 I'm looking for a tester with a throw away yakkety to test apps installation
[11:42] <BluesKaj> I don't need any help , my system is just fine
[11:42] <BluesKaj> ok 
 I need feedback on package installation
[11:45] <BluesKaj> what makes you think it'll trash systems anyway, I installed plasma 5.6.4 on my laptop and it ran fine on the default kernel , intel gpu tho
[11:45] <mparillo> I have a YY VM. Look for marco-parillo to join.
 Because its newly packaged and ive probably made some mistakes
 I'm only looking for package install issues at the moment
 Mparillo can you clone the VM and do an install of applications 16.04.1 in the staging ppa?
 Report back on any apt warnings or errors you get?
 I hit 4 install issues and I think ive fixed 3 of them
[11:54] <clivejo> mparillo: please dont announce it yet as its not ready
[11:56] <clivejo> marco-parillo: : please dont announce it yet as its not ready
[11:58] <marco-parillo> sudo add-apt-repository ppa:kubuntu-ppa/staging-kdeapplications ?
[11:58] <clivejo> yes
[11:59] <marco-parillo> sudo apt update && sudo apt full-upgrade -y
[12:00] <clivejo> be aware that anything red marked on this page will not work - http://qa.kubuntu.co.uk/ppa-status/applications/build_status_16.04.1_yakkety.html
[12:00] <clivejo> can you  do just a regular upgrade first
[12:00] <marco-parillo> Doh
[12:01] <marco-parillo> Sorry, I hit control c while still downloading. Will try regular upgrade
[12:02] <clivejo> looking for any apt warnings
[12:04] <marco-parillo> Looks like many will be held back: http://paste.ubuntu.com/16597448/
[12:08] <marco-parillo> Looks like an Error on mail plug-in: http://paste.ubuntu.com/16597554/
[14:42] <soee> yofel: please add some short note about 5.6.4 on website :)
[21:25] <matt1> I'm having a dependency error installing plasma 5.6.4 from the backports ppa:
[21:25] <matt1> plasma-desktop : Depends: plasma-desktop-data (= 4:5.6.4-0ubuntu1~ubuntu16.04~ppa3) but 4:5.5.5-0ubuntu1 is to be installed
[21:25] <matt1>                   Breaks: kactivities (< 5.21) but 5.18.0-0ubuntu1 is to be installed
[21:25] <matt1>                   Recommends: kinfocenter but it is not going to be installed
[21:25] <matt1> Can anyone help?
[21:25] <matt1> reported in this bug - https://bugs.launchpad.net/kubuntu-ppa/+bug/1584416
[21:28] <soee> what if you try: sudo apt install --reinstall plasma-desktop 
[21:30] <matt1> soee: same error
[21:31] <valorie> it's possible not all of plasma 5.6.4 is published yet?
[21:31] <valorie> sgclark did upload it
[21:32] <soee> it is Xenial, so all are in backports
[21:32] <soee> matt1: you executed: sudo apt full-upgrade
[21:32] <soee> ?
[21:33] <matt1> soee: ugh (hangs head in shame).  In my defence, I'm just returning to kubuntu after a couple of years away.
[21:34] <matt1> soee: Thanks. Seems to be installing without errors now.
[21:35] <soee> :)