[01:58] <Clifspeare> Hey, how does Kubuntu install and configure Grub?  I have an existing Archlinux install that I'm installing Kubuntu beside.  I don't want Kubuntu removing it from my boot menu.
[02:03] <lethu> you can setup grub afterwards to include your Archlinux os
[02:03] <Clifspeare> thanks
[02:03] <lethu> no problem
[04:28] <rexsumego> hi
[05:11] <abhishek>  My touch pad moves everytime I type
[05:11] <abhishek>  System Setting>Input Devices>Touchpad>Enable/Disable Touchpad has an option of Timeout, what should it be?
[05:48] <abhishek> hey!
[05:48] <abhishek> is it okay to update kde on 16.04?
[05:48] <abhishek> beyond what it was shipped with
[05:49] <goddard> abhishek: you heard of the backports ppa?
[05:50] <goddard> http://wire.kubuntu.org/?p=950
[05:50] <goddard> offical backport to 16.04
[05:51] <abhishek> is the backport preferred over neon?
[07:51] <staeksauce> i keep getting multiple tabs in the task manager bar for the same window?
[07:55] <staeksauce> also, why does the renderer stay on the default settings even after you install 3rd party drivers?
[07:56] <staeksauce> I was still getting atrocious tearing until I figured out it was still using XRender
[07:57] <abhishek> is the driver manager working, right now? I am using kubuntu 16.04 with kde plasma 5.6.4(backports)
[07:57] <abhishek> is there any update fix for it?
[07:57] <staeksauce> no, I had to install 15.10
[07:58] <staeksauce> this is simultaneously the best looking and buggiest distro I've ever used
[08:32] <abhishek> hmm...
[08:46] <acheron88> https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/kubuntu-driver-manager/+bug/1530523
[08:47] <acheron88> running 'ubuntu-drivers' in a terminal is supposed to be a functional workaround according to that report
[09:32] <antonio_> list
[09:33] <antonio_> !list
[10:12] <Stephanboy2030> Goog Morning, fresh install of Kubuntu 16.04, Amarok does not play any mp3, can you help me?
[10:14] <Stephanboy2030> while VLC can play mp3
[10:15] <acheron88> did you opt to install multimedia codes etc when you installed?
[10:16] <acheron88> *codecs
[10:16] <Stephanboy2030> like "sudo apt-get install kubuntu-restricted-extras" ?
[10:17] <Stephanboy2030> sorry, it is my first Linux try
[10:17] <acheron88> basically, yes
[10:18] <Stephanboy2030> I will try now
[10:18] <Stephanboy2030> libavcodec-ffmpeg56 will be removed, can I procede?
[10:19] <acheron88> "sudo apt-get install kubuntu-restricted-addons" is prob the one you need
[10:27] <acheron88> or both of those to be safe?
[10:27] <acheron88> https://www.kubuntuforums.net/showthread.php?70029-Amarok-do-not-play-MP3
[10:30] <Stephanboy2030> It works, thanks a lot
[10:30] <acheron88> great :)
[10:31] <Stephanboy2030> Have a nice day acheron88
[10:31] <Stephanboy2030> ;-)
[10:31] <acheron88> there is a tickbox to select when installing kubuntu that adds support for things like that
[10:32] <acheron88> easy to miss it
[10:32] <acheron88> have fun with your music
[10:53] <BluesKaj> Hi folks
[14:12]  * tytan meow
[14:33] <ModManMatt> Sweet
[14:34] <soee> :)
[14:34] <ModManMatt> just playing with my new kubuntu install :)
[14:35] <soee> did you added backports ppa ?
[14:35] <ModManMatt> havent added much of anything yet
[14:36] <soee> so you have fresh 16.04 ?
[14:36] <ModManMatt> took me a moment to get it to run on a mac mini v1
[14:36] <ModManMatt> yes
[14:36] <tytan> ModManMatt: How does it perform?
[14:36] <soee> ModManMatt: pleae add this ppa as posted here: http://wire.kubuntu.org?p=950
[14:37] <soee> it will install Plasma 5.6 on your system - makes it more smooth :)
[14:37] <ModManMatt> pretty good for an old system at first i was going to use lubuntu but when i saw the mac mini had a 1.6ghz and 2 gb ram i decided i would use something a bit mor graphical
[14:37] <tytan> soee: really?!
[14:37] <soee> tytan: yes
[14:38] <ModManMatt> just looking up backport ppe
[14:38] <tytan> soee: Do you know how I can use ctrl+c and ctrl+v in console?
[14:38] <ModManMatt> so this brings in some older stuff to help run smotother?
[14:38] <soee> tytan: CTRL + SHIFT + C
[14:38] <soee> ModManMatt: a bit yes :)
[14:38] <ModManMatt> :)
[14:39] <ModManMatt> only bug i have noticed bad so far was that the discover store runs so slow and messed up slider
[14:39] <soee> ModManMatt: it is buggy, yes - we cant do much abaout it as it is upstream bug
[14:39] <tytan> soee: Oh no, I'm such a noob xD
[14:40] <soee> ModManMatt: you can use: muon
[14:40] <soee> it is package manager
[14:40] <tytan> where can I change that to the "standard" way? =)
[14:40] <ModManMatt> if ugo to repos and go direct to repo browse view then it works fine i think its just the main slider home page suggestions that arent working
[14:40] <ModManMatt> i installed ubuntu store runs fne
[14:40] <soee> tytan: probably configuring temrinal shortcuts but i suggest leaving it like this (you will avoid some random pasting into temrial) :)
[14:41] <ModManMatt> i hAve a fair amount of linux centos knowledge to me its same thing with a pretty interface slapped on it
[14:42] <ModManMatt> how can i turn off password popup on every move i make i know its kind of a no no with servers but this is just a sandbox for me
[14:43] <tytan> soee: true that since the console is a very powerful tool
[14:43] <ModManMatt> indeed ^
[14:43] <ModManMatt> all systems are consoles underneath you just click a button that does a command in background with a gui
[14:44] <tytan> ModManMatt: Not really. At least not like a bash. But I get what you mean ^^
[14:44] <ModManMatt> only so many preset interface commands though and the consle is unlimted
[14:45] <tytan> ModManMatt: Actually the bash is just a user interface like a GUI ^^
[14:45] <tytan> But it works as a rough analogy
[14:45] <ModManMatt> i still have so much to learn :) hehe
[14:46] <tytan> ModManMatt: *deep sh*t incoming* You may never stop to learn new things. that's what makes our lives veautiful
[14:46] <ModManMatt> most of my linux knowledge comes from running cent os dedicated servers with cpanel ;)
[14:47] <tytan> ModManMatt: I'm just a sysadmin who was lucky enough to make a living from knowing stuff about linux and BSD
[14:48] <tytan> ModManMatt: I'm upgrading KDE at the moment. I may need to log out to make the changes so don't wonder if I disconnect in a few moments
[14:49] <ModManMatt> ;)
[14:50] <ModManMatt> i miss the old irc days i wish mirc 6.2 worked on here i still have the custom built version i made for blackcats-games.net
[14:51] <tytan> ModManMatt: Oh god, how old are you?! :D
[14:51] <soee> why? :-)
[14:51]  * tytan is just 23yo
[14:52] <soee> konversation client is nice
[14:52] <tytan> soee: I use konversation 1.6 at tzhe moment. It's just perfect
[14:52] <ModManMatt> just seems limited works great though yes
[14:52] <ModManMatt> is there a place for scripting?
[14:53] <soee> tytan: yup :)
[14:53] <tytan> ModManMatt: I think irssi might be the client for you then ^^
[14:53] <soee> ModManMatt: i dont kno
[14:53] <ModManMatt> ill check i can always run my 6.2 on my windows machine but i like mirc scripting and customizing :)
[14:55] <ModManMatt> Koonvo does have the best reviews on store
[14:56] <ModManMatt> is there a codec pack like k-lite for kubuntu to make vlc play all file extensions
[14:57] <soee> sudo apt install kubuntu-restricted-extras
[14:58] <ModManMatt> ^ :)
[14:58] <ModManMatt> works thanks
[15:01] <ModManMatt> oh cool that is in the ubutnu store also
[15:06] <tytan> How can I delete folders that are too big for my trash bin in kde?
[15:06] <tytan> without the console
[15:06] <soee> from Dolphin ?
[15:06] <tytan> yes
[15:06] <tytan> this is pretty annoying for me
[15:07] <rodolfojcj> Shift + Del ??
[15:07] <tytan> yes, thzat works!
[15:07] <tytan> thank you very much ^^
[15:08] <soee> tytan: go to Dolphin configuration and in Services section check option "Delete"
[15:08] <soee> tytan: then you will have Delete in context menu
[15:08] <soee> what is exactly what Shift + Del does
[15:09] <rodolfojcj> or you can go to Settings > Toolbars Settings and then add the Delete action to the right side (Current Actions)
[15:10] <rodolfojcj> this way a new Delete button icon will be easily available
[15:16] <tytan> soee: nice. this was what I was looking for
[17:45] <ilhami> I have a problem with the lock screen in Kubuntu
[17:45] <ilhami> it has a huge delay
[17:46] <ilhami> it may have something to do with the horrible Nvidia driver
[19:16] <user|13651> I have tired many times to install kubuntu on this gateway laptop but it wont get past language selection. I tried disconnect from internet and connected along with 32 and 64 bit. I have 4GB ram so 64 bit should be my choice. I searched all over seeing the same issue but not solution. Ubuntu also doesn't work. Any ideas?
[19:17] <user|13651> installing from usb drive made from ISO using rufus 2.9
[21:01] <fromfree> I just got answer from a kde developer that suggested me to ask kubuntu developers to release the latest stable packages of Discovery to fix this bug: https://bugs.kde.org/show_bug.cgi?id=363392 ; where can I request the update?
[21:10] <viewer|49955> Hi I tried to install Kubuntu 16.04 64bit  but it had a problem with loading Grub. Any idea's on a fix?
[21:15] <soee> viewer|49955: loading when? After installation ?
[21:16] <fromfree> maybe you have choose the wrong disk for grub installation during the setup?
[21:17] <fromfree> *choosen
[21:47] <staeksauce> none of the desktop effects seem to have any effect whatsoever no matter what I change, does Plasma need to be restarted to see changes?
[21:49] <soee> staeksauce: are they enabled ?
[21:50] <staeksauce> I'm ticking boxes on and off in Desktop Effects
[21:50] <staeksauce> is that what you mean
[21:51] <soee> staeksauce: well general desktop effects, you can toggle them by pressing ALT + SHIFT + F12
[21:51] <staeksauce> that doesn't have any effect
[21:52] <soee> staeksauce: than it is strange, it should atleast (vivisble for you) disabe panel shadowm change its transparentcy etc.
[21:52] <soee> if nto maybe there is something wring and effects are not loaded at all
[21:53] <soee> staeksauce: you are on 16.04 with backports enabled ?
[21:53] <staeksauce> 15.10
[21:53] <soee> uh there is old plasma :/ can you upgrade to 16.04?
[21:54] <soee> 16.04 is a LTS so it is recommended to upgrade and i'm not ure if 15.10 is still supported
[21:54] <staeksauce> i tried 16.04 in a VM but I'm not experienced enough to know how to get Nvidia drivers
[21:54] <soee> !support wily
[21:54] <soee> staeksauce: its pretty simple
[21:55] <soee> you have to add 1 extra ppa and install the desired driver version
[21:55] <soee> staeksauce: so you type in console:
[21:56] <soee> 1. sudo apt-add-repository ppa:graphics-drivers/ppa
[21:56] <soee> 2. sudo apt update
[21:56] <soee> 3. sudo apt install nvidia-367
[21:56] <soee> if you want different driver version just change the number in package name :)
[21:56] <staeksauce> why don't they show up in driver manager?
[21:56] <soee> driver manager is a bit broken
[21:57] <staeksauce> desktop effects were working at one point, not sure why I need to upgrade to 16.04 just for that
[21:58] <staeksauce> maybe i have the wrong compositor settings
[21:59] <staeksauce> i changed compositor settings because I was getting absolutely horrendous screen tearing
[21:59] <soee> staeksauce: 15.10 is supported only 9 months after release
[21:59] <soee> so after 2 months your OS will not be supported anymore (no security updates etc.)
[21:59] <staeksauce> ah
[22:00] <staeksauce> will upgrading from 15.10 clutter everything up?
[22:00] <staeksauce> really don't want to reinstall
[22:01] <soee> well it shouldn't, if something looks wrong try to create new user and check if your current settings break something :)
[22:01] <staeksauce> "it shouldn't" means it probably will :p
[22:02] <soee> well for many users it works fine, for some there are some problems
[22:03] <acheron88> desktop effects can be a bit grumpy with some nvidia cards after resume from suspend
[22:03] <soee> if you decide to upgrade, be sure to add backports ppa to have latest Plasma
[22:03] <staeksauce> i have no idea what backports are
[22:03] <acheron88> occasionally it won't let me channge them until I restart kwin
[22:04] <soee> staeksauce: http://wire.kubuntu.org?p=950
[22:04] <soee> staeksauce: this is extra repository with new packages version that can't go through standard archive updates
[22:07] <staeksauce> will sudo apt-get upgrade upgrade me to 16.04?
[22:08] <soee> sudo do-release-upgrade
[22:15] <adymitruk> I used the backports ppa to upgrade my kubuntu 16.04 to plasma 5.6
[22:15] <adymitruk> not a good experience
[22:15] <soee> why?
[22:23] <Javabean> what could cause an install of 16.04(option install 3rd party software used, didn't allow updates/didn't have network configured) to boot and get to the kubuntu plasma splash... then crash back to an initramfs prompt
[22:23] <Javabean> not plasma, sorry... meant plymouth
[22:36] <danann> Hi. I'm trying to install kubuntu 16.04 on my laptop, but I can't get it to view any of my HD/SSD partitions, and installation gets stuck on 'Prepare" step when I click Continue (next step would be Disk Setup)
[22:36] <danann> any ideas?
[22:48] <danann> oh god, every step is a day-long challenge. this is why linux can't have nice things
[22:51] <staeksauce> should I be using XRender or OpenGL in compositor settings?
[22:56] <soee> you can use OpenGL
[22:58] <staeksauce> i only see transparency when using XRender
[22:58] <staeksauce> or any desktop effect for that matter
[22:58] <staeksauce> but XRender causes screen tearing
[22:58] <staeksauce> is that just something i have to live with
[23:01] <soee_> staeksauce: have you seen what i wrote?
[23:02] <staeksauce> about the upgrade
[23:02] <staeksauce> I did it
[23:02] <staeksauce> and upgraded Plasma
[23:02] <soee_> [00:57] <soee> staeksauce: be sure to set: Tearing prevention (vsync) to "Full screen reapints" and check option "Suspend compositor for full screen windows"
[23:02] <soee_> [00:57] <soee> and OpenGL version to 2.0
[23:02] <staeksauce> oh I must have been disconnected when you typed that
[23:02] <adymitruk> soee: started using the wallet
[23:02] <adymitruk> didn't have any migration in place.. thank god that after ppa-purge everything still worked
[23:02] <adymitruk> the wallet idea is horrible in my opinion
[23:02] <adymitruk> using a database to store this stuff is probably the reason I'll eventually leave kubuntu
[23:02] <soee_> i got disconnected :]
[23:04] <adymitruk> hmm konversation dropped the connection and now my id is in use
[23:06] <staeksauce> no matter what I do, I see no desktop effects unless I use XRender
[23:08] <soee_> you are on PC or laptop ?
[23:08] <staeksauce> pc