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mate|5651well anything should run better than this garbage00:00
mate|5651i'm going to give it a try. thanks for all your help. see ya around ^.^00:07
YankDownUnderReckon I need a coffee now...no one's going to buy me one...hmm...00:12
wildkneesdoes the audio software ardour run okay in mate?02:13
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mkiiihi05:48
mkiiiis it possible to force synaptic to use aria2 instead of wget05:50
jcjordyn120Hey where can I download the Yakkety images?06:52
sunwhat this07:16
pfrenchanyone used btrfs?  I'm thinking of converting07:46
gordonjcppfrench: yes07:47
gordonjcppfrench: it's even better than DBAN07:47
gordonjcppfrench: as filesystems go, it's...07:48
pfrenchDBAN?07:48
gordonjcpDarek's Boot'N'Nuke07:48
gordonjcpgreat way of wiping data off disks securely07:48
pfrenchWell I missed the old .snapshot directories I used to have07:48
gordonjcpbtrfs is, uhm07:48
gordonjcpidiosyncratic07:48
pfrenchstill not quite stable?07:49
pfrenchfor me, I'm interested in the quick snapshots and transparent compression07:50
gordonjcpI don't really get the point of compression07:50
gordonjcpback in the day it was good, when hard disks were expensive and 40MB was a month's wages07:50
pfrenchWell, for lots of #include files, it's using lzo, which is often faster than any SSD07:51
pfrenchI worked on a project where I had to compress these "DSP Lists" for video processing07:52
pfrenchI found If I de-lzo'd them into memory they'd actually run faster than if I loaded them directly off of disk07:52
pfrenchso I figured header files would benefit similarly07:53
pfrenchbasically, read performance goes up, and it decompresses pretty much straight into CPU cache so it's faster than DMA+cache loads07:54
pfrenchbut directory snapshots/rollback are what I'm really looking for.07:55
gordonjcphm, I guess07:55
gordonjcpif your files are small enough to fit into cache that's likely a win07:55
pfrenchembedded developer, lots of #include files07:55
pfrenchBut I'm thinking of converting my ext4 to btrfs07:56
pfrenchwas it stable?07:57
pfrenchgordonjcp, ?08:00
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SuperEngineerSomeone saw me installing Ubuntu-Mate on Friday evening. When I walked away to get a pint, they asked, "aren't you going to watch it install, what if it goes wrong?"11:07
SuperEngineer"no need", said I... it'll be ok!  [& it was] :-)11:08
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Guest68307How du i uninstall programmes in ubuntu mate?11:45
SuperEngineer<Guest68307> 1st you obtain enough patience to wait for an answer rather than ask and disappear  ;-)12:14
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SuperEngineerxxxx is now now known as xxxxxy - all day long - xxxx is now now known as xxxxxy. Hurumphhh13:23
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ouroumov__SuperEngineer, I'd like to have your confidence level, but ther's still glitches14:16
ouroumov__Other day after choosing French as install language, it wouldn't detect my password14:17
ouroumov__Also I don't know who translated the installer but 'legacy' became 'obsolete' in French14:18
Akulithat's pretty bad14:21
AkuliIf other distros have the same translations you should check who translated the version of ubiquity you're having the problem with14:24
Akuliubiquity is the gui installer14:24
ouroumov__Akuli, you think I can file a bug report for a translation issue?14:25
AkuliNo, i don't :)14:26
AkuliI don't even use the ubiquity installer, i always use distros that provide a mini.iso. Ubuntu does that too.14:27
Artemis3SuperEngineer, if something does go wrong, staring at the install process isn't going to help much anyway xD14:52
SuperEngineer+114:53
Artemis3ouroumov__, maybe its a keyboard layout issue? are you using a, q, w, z, m or ? in the password?14:56
ouroumov__Artemis3, yes, and I thought about that too.14:58
ouroumov__I'm wondering if I couldn't have picked the wrong layout option because of the error in translation14:58
Artemis3you could pick english AND french layout when booting the live iso to test14:59
ouroumov__I'm gonna check it out14:59
Artemis3its f3 i think15:00
Artemis3after you pick language15:00
ouroumov__ehrm the language step appears after the disk partitioning15:00
ouroumov__I'm gonna have to try this in a VM because my machine took enough15:01
Artemis3no no no15:01
Artemis3when you boot the iso, it shows a gray screen, you have to press a key15:01
Artemis3then it asks what language, and then you can press f3 and change keyb layout15:02
Artemis3this is before it boots, otherwise it WILL use US keyb at install time (and you are inputing your password with US layout) at reboot you have french keyb15:03
Artemis3so those keys would fail15:03
ouroumov__Artemis3, even with the installer started in French?15:04
Artemis3yes15:04
ouroumov__Why in the sweet hell?15:04
Artemis3so you hve to do it before that15:04
Artemis3at grub15:04
ouroumov__Hold on15:04
ouroumov__Alright we're still talking about the live "try without install" stuff right?15:05
Artemis3when you boot the iso, it shows a gray screen with a white keyb = human logo thingie, you have to press a key at that moment quickly15:05
ouroumov__That's whet the little human mean?15:06
ouroumov__means *15:06
Artemis3who knows, but it lets you change language and keyboard15:07
ouroumov__Who is the genius who came up with that idea?15:07
Artemis3this is a gotcha, i also use a different layout15:07
Artemis3with most ubuntu derivetives you have to do the same15:07
Artemis3so probably someone in canonical (english)15:07
ouroumov__Basically that means when you hand out USB sticks to people and say "just try it without installing", their first experience of Linux is gonna be that the thing's not capable of setting the keyboard.15:07
Artemis3unless you manually alter the grub option to default to french or such15:08
Artemis3or put a sticker "press a key quickly when you see a gray screen xD"15:10
ouroumov__Yeah...15:10
ouroumov__Still, IMO this is a serious f*ckup.15:10
Artemis3the good news is if you do it there, the desktop starts in the language (or should)15:10
Artemis3in the past, this would be asked always without you pressing a key15:11
Artemis3when ubuntu was 10.04 or such15:11
ouroumov__Again with proof that newer isn't better.15:11
Artemis3someone (probably from english speaking country) made a change to not prompt by default your language15:12
ouroumov__Artemis3, is this something that can be fixed by tweaking ubiquity conf in individual flavors? Or is this something all 16.04 versions are afflicted with?15:13
Artemis3if anywhere, grub would be the place (not ubiquity)15:14
Artemis3https://help.ubuntu.com/community/LiveCDCustomization#Change_default_language_of_gfxboot15:16
ouroumov__Yeah15:21
ouroumov__Well, it's just sad.15:21
Artemis3https://ubuntu-mate.community/uploads/default/original/2X/b/b87faffdb36885d96345109b411ef80161eb3543.png15:21
Artemis3this is where you press f2 to change language and f3 to change layout15:22
ouroumov__There must be something wrong with my iso cause I see a text grub with no options when I boot the key :/15:25
Artemis3try pressing SHIFT15:29
Artemis3when you are booting the iso15:30
Artemis3oh text grub?15:30
Artemis3what iso do you have?15:30
ubuntu-matedoes anyone know how i can install drivers15:35
ouroumov__Hi ubuntu-mate15:36
ouroumov__ubuntu-mate, common drivers packs are a one click install in the Welcome Splash Screen, section "Getting Started -> Drivers"15:37
ubuntu-mateok thanks15:37
ubuntu-mateit only shows me shortcuts15:38
ouroumov__Artemis3, not sure. It says Ubuntu MATE 16.04 LTS when I mount it, and I remember burning it like the day when Xenial was released. But the Grub says Beta 2, it's weird.15:38
ouroumov__ubuntu-mate, what version of Ubuntu MATE are you using, and are you on the live session ?15:39
ubuntu-mateyes15:39
ubuntu-matei am installing the os atm and i want to know how to do it after15:39
Artemis3ouroumov__, did you use dvd or usb stick?15:39
ubuntu-mateusb15:40
ubuntu-matelive15:40
ouroumov__Well you should have an option after ubuntu-mate.15:40
Artemis3ubuntu-mate, how did you copy the iso to usb15:40
Artemis3sorry ouroumov__15:40
ubuntu-mateok dude thanks bro15:40
ubuntu-matecya15:40
Artemis3ouroumov__, i would advise to use dd15:40
ouroumov__Artemis3: dd then sync, the lazy man's way.15:40
Artemis3then it should work15:40
ouroumov__(And yes, USB)15:40
Artemis3maybe its an old iso? but even in beta2 i remember it works15:41
Artemis3anyway try release iso15:41
ouroumov__I'm gonna download a fresh version and burn it again15:41
ouroumov__But not right now15:41
Artemis3ok15:42
ouroumov__Anyway thanks for the tips & such Artemis315:42
ouroumov__I didn't know about the little man.15:42
Artemis3lol15:43
andresb-24Buenas a todos16:43
andresb-24alguien aca que hable espaƱol16:43
andresb-24necesito ayuda16:45
akguptai am not able to install apps.17:32
carlos_Hello everybody17:44
carlos_I need some help about hubuntu mate17:45
carlos_Who can you help me17:45
kisbeverybody can help you17:51
kisbjust ask17:51
hasan_Hi geeks!20:16
hasan_I can't install ubuntu-mate 16.04 due to screen crash at setup startup!!20:17
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alzo9204hi all22:12
smokeshi all22:21
smokesanyone knows about an issue with Killer wifi 1535?22:22
na_Hi folks!  Has anyone had a problem with Chrome being open and then being unable to click/highlight anything on the desktop?  This only seems to happen with Compiz enabled.22:33
na_Found the answer.  Under settings find "Use system title bar and borders" and enable it.22:39
dani_algun@ latin@23:29
TheMariushttp://appimage.org/ <- interesting.. sandboxed apps!23:59

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