[00:00] <happosade> I have X260, latest LTS and dock, when disconnecting, my computer crashesh every now and then. Is there something I should look into?
[00:00] <happosade> Like when connecting/disconnecting
[00:01] <CoolKevin> I am not a expert xdevnull , but I think windows will knock out the MBR master boot record
[00:01] <squinty> xdevnull,  you can't run gparted on a mounted disk.  grab a live cd and use  gparted from it
[00:02] <xdevnull> squinty, what a wonderful news.
[00:02] <Bashing-om> xdevnull: Can not operate on a partition that is in use ( mounted). run GParted from a liveDVD(USB), and make sure that swap is 'off' .
[00:06] <simon_> hi
[00:06] <simon_> am new
[00:09] <meh> how can i create
[00:09] <meh> a deb file for extract a bundle into /opt ?
[00:09] <baller> github says to run "go get github.com/google/cups-connector/..."  without quotes but it gives an error saying $GOPATH not set
[00:10] <jiffe> anyone have nvidia/opencl working in ubuntu 14.04?
[00:13] <ziikutv> Hey what can I use instead of systemctl ? Because I am getting command not found. Trying to follow this guide https://uwsgi-docs.readthedocs.io/en/latest/Systemd.html#adding-the-emperor-to-systemd where its asks the user to run a service "systemctl start emperor.uwsgi.service
[00:13] <ziikutv> "
[00:17] <simon1234> I have 3 HP laptops in the office, with very faulty wifi when running on ubuntu, they worked perfectly with the OEM installed windows 10, but on ubuntu (14.04, 16.04) wifi disconnects every 15 mins or so, has anyone else experienced this?
[00:18] <grijander> tomate una tostada caliente con churros jajaa
[00:19] <cristobal> grijander || #ubuntu-es
[00:19] <djcray> simon1234, how did you get Windows 10 with Ubuntu together? D: I only get kernel errors
[00:20] <grijander> menuda dagada de windows
[00:20] <cristobal> simon1234, did you verify the wifi manufacture compatibility ? i read broadcom gives issues while intel wifi is the most compatible ones
[00:20] <simon1234> djcray, they are not together, I replaced windows with ubuntu
[00:21] <djcray> simon1234, oh okay
[00:21] <grijander> ubuntu sabe a bacalao de bilbao con tortas de aceite
[00:22] <cristobal> grijander usa #ubuntu-es  este canal es de ingles
[00:22] <simon1234> cristobal, will check on Monday whether it's broadcom or intel. But any workarounds if I find it is broadcom?
[00:23] <Bashing-om> !bcm | simon1234
[00:23] <grijander> this chanel is ubuntu
[00:23] <cristobal> simon1234,  can also read http://askubuntu.com/questions/760075/cant-view-wifi-networks-after-upgrading-to-ubuntu-16-04
[00:25] <andruwx> hola a todos
[00:25] <cristobal> andruwx | #ubuntu-es
[00:26] <andruwx> que tal su dia
[00:29] <CoolKevin> really sorry again, I do not know the name of the package I want to change the look of my desktop, what I had before, I thought was kde
[00:29] <mrrtrump> ubuntu 16 how bfq?
[00:30] <YankDownUnder> CoolKevin, plasma/kde?
[00:30] <Bashing-om> mrrtrump: rephrase ?
[00:30] <CoolKevin> on those lines
[00:31] <CoolKevin> I think that was my very first one
[00:31] <YankDownUnder> CoolKevin, Then that's the name of the "packages"...you should be able to find that easily enough in the package manager...
[00:31] <CoolKevin> ok thank you kind sir
[00:32] <mrrtrump> bfq io scheduler
[00:32] <YankDownUnder> CoolKevin, You've got Gnome2 (Mate), Gnome2/3 (Cinnamon), Gnome3, Unity, KDE/Plasma, XFce, LxDE...and more...
[00:32] <mrrtrump> how get on the 16
[00:33] <YankDownUnder> mrrtrump, http://askubuntu.com/questions/628529/bfq-i-o-scheduler => that should help.
[00:33] <CoolKevin> I still got the basics, but I just found "plasma media centre"  in the software cente
[00:34] <YankDownUnder> CoolKevin, "Plasma Media Centre" is not really the desktop, bro...you'd have to have Plasma+KDE for the full thingo, bro...
[00:35] <CoolKevin> I see
[00:36] <YankDownUnder> CoolKevin, If you really really want the ENTIRE KDE/Plasma experience, you can download KUbuntu - which is JUST that...but Ubuntu, nonetheless...
[00:36] <baller> how do i set up cups
[00:37] <CoolKevin> what I had set up before was, a bar at the bottom which had the apps, and on the right, little boxs for extra desktops, and a dropdown menu at the top
[00:37] <squinty> mate
[00:37] <goddard> baller: you have a printer?
[00:38] <snckrs> I need some help getting bumblebee to work. I installed it as it was described on the wiki but i think something is missing as I cant launch steam games. neither  with primusrun %command% nor with that utterly long command that some people suggest in the steam forums
[00:38] <squinty> go to youtube and type in ubuntu mate desktop and see if that is the one you want
[00:38] <mrrtrump> process on that link shits bed
[00:38] <squinty> snckrs, apparently bumblebee has been replaced by nvidia-prime
[00:38] <CoolKevin> thank you kind sir
[00:38] <mrrtrump> gents arent we concerned no bfq?
[00:38] <mrrtrump> waaaazzupp
[00:39] <baller> goddard: how do i find the ip adress to assign to my cups server
[00:39] <snckrs> squinty, good thing the wiki told me that bbefore i had to deinnstall everythinng ...
[00:39] <goddard> baller: of your printer?
[00:39] <goddard> baller: either look at your router or look at the printers interface
[00:40] <snckrs> so, how do install this "nvidia prime" thingy
[00:40] <baller> goddard: i am trying to make my usb printer wireless
[00:40] <baller> in the setting up cups guide it says to assign it a ip address
[00:40] <goddard> baller: look at the name of the printer then reference that in your router
[00:40] <goddard> baller: your router sets your printers IP not cups
[00:40] <baller> my printer is usb onlu
[00:41] <cristobal> baller,  you can share it from your ubuntu computer to other in the network
[00:41] <goddard> if it connects to a wifi router then it is your router dude
[00:41] <squinty> snckrs, not up on all the in's and out's of it but nvidia-prime is in repo's afaik
[00:41] <CoolKevin> like that one     https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4DszoVta0hY
[00:41] <snckrs> yeah but i guess i need some nvidia drivers aswell?
[00:41] <baller> i am trying to use https://github.com/google/cups-connector/wiki/Install
[00:41] <baller> goddard: https://github.com/google/cups-connector/wiki/Install
[00:41] <mrrtrump> cups lol
[00:41] <mrrtrump> dude go paperless
[00:42] <mrrtrump> wll fuck ubuntu
[00:42] <mrrtrump> im heading abck to freebsd
[00:42] <cristobal> hp printers all in one disables the wifi if connected directly to ethernet just be advise
[00:42] <tgm4883> !ohmy
[00:42] <goddard> mrrtrump: don't let the door hit you on the way out
[00:43] <CoolKevin> never bite the hand that feeds
[00:43] <goddard> baller: first figure out how IP addresses are assigned and i think your troubles will disappear
[00:44] <mrrtrump> I dunno
[00:45] <mrrtrump> I mean why bnother with ur bung 2
[00:45] <mrrtrump> freebsd has everything but pharo
[00:45] <mrrtrump> pharo is pretty nice
[00:45] <mrrtrump> plus freebsd has zfs
[00:45] <squinty> !offtopic
[00:46] <squinty> your comments regarding bsd are not needed and are off-topic
[00:46] <snckrs> How can I check whether i have a certain package installed?
[00:46] <mrrtrump> public school is not needed
[00:46] <mrrtrump> nor is fed
[00:46] <YankDownUnder> snckrs, "apt search nameofpackage" => you'll see it listed as "installed" if it's installed...
[00:47] <squinty> ops! mrrtrump
[00:47] <tgm4883> squinty: he left. And  you need the bang before the ops
[00:48] <squinty> yes mis type
[00:48] <snckrs> is apt purge and apt-get purge the same?
[00:48] <baller> hey OerHeks you here?
[00:48] <YankDownUnder> snckrs, Yes, basically.
[00:49] <snckrs> thanks
[00:49] <YankDownUnder> snckrs, All good.
[00:49] <snckrs> Sigh, why do nvidia drivers just wont work for me?
[00:50] <YankDownUnder> snckrs, They're flaky at the best of times.
[00:51] <snckrs> Yeah, but for some weird reason they are working on arch  linux for me...so I just dont get  why they wont work on ubuntu
[00:51] <snckrs> after rebooting i only get a blackscreen
[00:51] <snckrs> although i can switch to a tty with ctrl alt f1
[00:52] <YankDownUnder> snckrs, It could be something as simple as permissions...or possibly the process by which you've installed them...either which, there is ample information about doing the installation...if one way doesn't work, try another way...which is the beauty of the situation...there are many ways to do the same thing...
[00:53] <snckrs> YankDownUnder, yet for some reason I only am able to find out how this one way works: By ticking this box for nvidia driver at the "software" app
[00:53] <YankDownUnder> snckrs, Check this out: http://askubuntu.com/questions/760374/ubuntu-16-04-nvidia-driver-blank-screen
[00:54] <snckrs> ugh hold on, i think i forgot install nvidia-prima lol
[00:55] <snckrs> its "sudo apt install nvidia-prime" right?
[00:55] <YankDownUnder> snckrs, Should be it...
[00:56] <snckrs> hah that was indeed my mistake
[00:57] <YankDownUnder> snckrs, Coolbeans...I'll take a large cappuccino, extra shot, two raw sugars, thanks. :)
[00:57] <snckrs> YankDownUnder, but im only  a chocolatebar  without vowels :c
[00:58] <YankDownUnder> snckrs, Fair enough...I don't do chocolate unless it's in coffee...or on waffles...
[01:00] <snckrs> so i just launched csgo, how do i check now if it really  is working  with the dGPU?
[01:00] <Bashing-om> snckrs: BumbleBee and nvidia-prime do not co-ixist . make sure to purge BumbleBee .
[01:00] <snckrs> Bashing-om, you are about 5 minutes too late, I already fixed it, but thanks
[01:02] <snckrs> okay nvm, the fact that i have about 120 FPS is a pretty good indicator that its runnning the nvidia gpu haha
[01:02] <Bashing-om> snckrs: K) .. was away for a bit .. Glad ya got it .
[01:03] <snckrs> okay facing a new problem: Vsync isnt working :(
[01:04] <YankDownUnder> snckrs, That would be something to dig into on the forums (Ubuntu forums...heaps of stuff about setting vsync and all that lovely jazz)
[01:07] <snckrs> A problem for tomorrow i  guess haha
[01:16] <kristofer> where can I ask about installation related issues with ubuntu-touch?
[01:16] <Bashing-om> !touch | kristofer
[01:16] <OerHeks> #ubuntu-touch kristofer
[01:16] <kristofer> I get literally zero responses from #ubuntu-touch, I've been asking all day
[01:18] <kristofer> "This phone needs restoring from a PC or service center."
[01:23] <OerHeks> kristofer, reading back the irc log, yes, http://askubuntu.com/questions/591828/this-phone-needs-restoring-from-a-pc-or-service-center
[01:23] <OerHeks> see answer apr 13
[01:24] <squinty> heh was just reading that exact page
[01:24] <kristofer> OerHeks: no, I already did a clean install of kitkat 4.4 on my n7, then tried to install ubuntu-touch, and I'm running into this issue
[01:25] <kristofer> so, even with a fresh clean install of factory image, I still run into the issue
[01:28] <kristofer> OerHeks: any ideas?
[01:30] <OerHeks> kristofer, nope,keep asking in U-T, or put it on the mailinglist
[01:30] <OerHeks> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Touch/GetHelp
[01:34] <B0g4r7_> Ubuntu Touch huh.  That sounds like it might be something pretty raw.
[01:35] <B0g4r7_> Something one might have to stumble through and solve ones own problems until it becomes a bit more broadly used.
[01:35] <B0g4r7_> I'd imagine the userbase is fairly small at this point.
[01:37] <B0g4r7_> Still it's cool to see a real effort put towards offering a FOSS OS on mobile/touch platforms.
[01:37] <YankDownUnder> B0g4r7_, Yes...but...that being said...it's catching...
[01:40] <B0g4r7_> I'm sure that given time it will become more usable.
[01:41] <B0g4r7_> Kinda like linux on the desktop in 1998 wasn't quite what it is today.
[01:43] <B0g4r7_> Hmm, looks like no support for iphones at all yet.  That's all I have laying around that I might try it on.
[01:45] <pennTeller> Hi guys! Does anybody know a tool to be able to see or possibly control my cpu clock speed on ubuntu 16.04?
[01:45] <B0g4r7_> pennTeller, cat /proc/cpuinfo
[01:46] <OerHeks> enough tools to see, but to set speed is silly.
[01:46] <pennTeller> B0g4r7_, thank you that works. Do you happen to maybe know a tool for overclocking?
[01:46] <pennTeller> OerHeks, how so?
[01:47] <OerHeks> overclocking should be done in the bios?
[01:48] <pennTeller> OerHeks, I see.. I guess I'll give that a shot. Thank you
[01:49] <pennTeller> Do you happen to know a tool or program apart from  cat /proc/cpuinfo to see the cpu state?
[01:49] <B0g4r7_> The only tools I've seen for adjusting CPU frequency from software deal with power saving features.  Reducing clockspeed, not increasing.
[01:50] <pennTeller> B0g4r7_, yes me too
[01:50] <B0g4r7_> lscpu tells you a lot of the same information.  dmidecode will tell you about the CPU and a lot of other things.
[01:51] <pennTeller> lslscpu looks very much as what I had in mind :)
[01:51] <pennTeller> Thank you B0g4r7_
[01:51] <OerHeks> You might want to take a look at nice & renice to give services more/less priority
[01:51] <pennTeller> OerHeks, now that's something I've never heard about either
[01:51] <pennTeller> I will have a look
[01:52] <pennTeller> oh nice looks cool
[01:52] <OerHeks> http://manpages.ubuntu.com/manpages/xenial/man1/renice.1posix.html
[01:54] <pennTeller> OerHeks, thank you. I just took the LPI linux essentials course. Do you know of "the next" step to fully dive in into linux?
[01:54] <pennTeller> I just built this pc and decided to not use Windows at all and want to fully immerse myself
[01:55] <OerHeks> well, it takes time ..
[01:56] <pennTeller> OerHeks, I devour books and videos. I proud myself in learning very fast
[01:56] <OerHeks> hanging in here was a good start, back in 2009.
[01:56] <pennTeller> OerHeks, why not anymore? seems ok to me
[01:58] <OerHeks> pennTeller, sure, still is, just saying how i started.
[01:59] <pennTeller> OerHeks, oh I see
[02:09] <Guest56439> whats up
[02:09] <Carsten> Hello people, I just tried to update to 16.04 and got a mysql update error http://pastebin.com/K2VE9TkY
[02:10] <Carsten> I had a look at launchpad followed all instructions through to no avail
[02:10] <Carsten> Can anybody help?
[02:10] <tgm4883> Carsten: what launchpad instructions
[02:11] <Guest56439> whats up
[02:12] <tgm4883> Guest56439: This is a support channel, if you have a question ask it, otherwise chat is in #ubuntu-offtopic
[02:16] <Carsten> tgm4883:  Apologes wrong platform I meant ubuntu forum: http://askubuntu.com/questions/760724/16-04-upgrade-broke-mysql-server
[02:19] <pennTeller> any body know how to "click wheel click scroll" on ubuntu?
[02:20] <pennTeller> I mean click it once and point in the direction you would like to scroll
[02:20] <YankDownUnder> pennTeller, you can change the operations of the mouse/mouse wheel with xmodmap
[02:21] <pennTeller> YankDownUnder, thank you
[02:21] <YankDownUnder> pennTeller, As well...check out: https://help.ubuntu.com/16.04/ubuntu-help/mouse.html
[02:23] <pennTeller> YankDownUnder, will do
[02:26] <Carsten> Is anyone able to help?
[02:27] <Bashing-om> !ask | Carsten
[02:29] <LambdaComplex> Bashing-om: he did already ask
[02:31] <Carsten> I suppose I should ask a little clearer
[02:31] <tgm4883> Carsten: not sure why you think that particular link is related to your issue
[02:32] <Bashing-om> LambdaComplex: Carsten  I dp now see .. sorry for my lapse of attention .
[02:32] <Carsten> I just tried to update to 16.04 and got a mysql update error http://pastebin.com/K2VE9TkY I followed these instructions through as on the ubuntu forum: http://askubuntu.com/questions/760724/16-04-upgrade-broke-mysql-server
[02:33] <tgm4883> Carsten: was this a minor upgrade inside 16.04 or were you doing a distribution upgrade?
[02:33] <Carsten> tgm4883: Well I have been looking for issues surrounding mysql upgrade errors surrounding 16.04 thats the closest I could find.
[02:34] <Carsten> tgm4883: Distrubution upgrade
[02:34] <tgm4883> Carsten: from?
[02:34] <Carsten> 15.04
[02:34] <tgm4883> Carsten: did you upgrade to 15.10 first?
[02:35] <Carsten> well I used do-release-upgrade
[02:35] <Carsten> Errr sorry tgm4883
[02:35] <Bashing-om> Carsten: Does this : https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/mysql-5.7/+bug/1571865 apply to your situation ?
[02:35] <Carsten> tgm4883: I used do-release-upgrade
[02:36] <tgm4883> Carsten: that shouldn't have upgraded you directly from 15.04 to 16.04
[02:36] <Carsten> Bashing-om: I found that too, followed instructions through in the first option through to no avail.
[02:36] <Carsten> tgm4883: Then I am in error on version number I must have been at 15.10
[02:38] <Charlie1983ARG> !mainline
[02:41] <Charlie1983ARG> hi, I'm using Kodibuntu but I want to use Ubuntu 16.04 kernel (lastest Kodibuntu seems based on Lubuntu but uses 3.13 instead of 4.4), it seems that linux-generic has been overriden to this older kernel
[02:41] <Charlie1983ARG> how can I use Ubuntu 16.04 kernel and keep it updated under Kodibuntu?
[02:42] <tgm4883> Charlie1983ARG: you install Ubuntu 16.04 or you ask in #kodi
[02:42] <Charlie1983ARG> I already asked there and they told me that I have to install a mainline kernel! I don't want to do that
[02:43] <Charlie1983ARG> but you're right, I'm going to use Ubuntu 16.04, Kodibuntu is a waste of time
[02:45] <mangix> hello, how can i tell which Xorg video driver has been loaded?
[02:46] <mangix> also, is modesetting or the intel driver better on intel hardware?
[02:48] <Bashing-om> mangix: Log /var/log/Xorg.0.log will relate a lot of info about the driver build .
[02:49] <Carsten> tgm4883, Bashing-om: it seems to be related to that innodb issue but I can't find anything on it
[02:50] <mangix> Bashing-om: got it. intel is being used
[02:51] <mangix> speaking of intel, how to I enable DRI3? i can't find /etc/X11/xorg.conf or .d
[02:53] <ntfwc> make an xorg.conf.d with an intel device configuration and make sure it has 'Option "DRI" "3"'
[02:53] <ntfwc> xorg.conf.d directory that is
[02:54] <Charlie1983ARG> it's DRI3 worth it?
[02:55] <ntfwc> From what I've read, it is mostly security improvements, and there have a been a few DRI3 specific application bugs
[02:56] <mangix> DRI3 allows better vsync and performance
[02:57] <mangix> downside is that it requires KMS and may be unstable
[02:58] <ntfwc> Does anyone here know if there is a proper term for a computer display acting like a VHS player that has lost tracking?
[02:59] <ntfwc> I'm trying to find if there is a bug for it, but I have been unsuccessful in my search.
[03:31] <jason__> how do you rename a network device e.g rename eth0 to something else
[03:37] <[Saint]> jason__: /etc/udev/rules.d/70-persistent-net.rules
[03:38] <[Saint]> (mv it to *.bak first)
[03:39] <[Saint]> though I guess that assumes pre-systemd/predictable interface naming scheme.
[03:39] <[Saint]> hmmm.
[03:40] <reisio> just restore that scheme, then :)
[03:40] <jason__> I plugged in a wifi dongle and for some reason it has called it wlx74da38417dba
[03:40] <[Saint]> right, that's the new 'predictable netowrk interface name' scheme or so.
[03:41] <[Saint]> you'll find it'll be 'wlx<lower_case_MAC_address>'
[03:41] <jason__> oh
[03:41] <[Saint]> I actually find that useful myself.
[03:41] <jason__> my prefrence would be wlan0
[03:42] <jason__> rename in the same place?
[03:42] <Bashing-om> jason__: See: https://www.freedesktop.org/wiki/Software/systemd/PredictableNetworkInterfaceNames/ .
[03:45] <mncedisi> hi
[03:46] <krismatrix> I have Ubuntu 16.04...and I heard that there was security issue with Unity and X11. Someone recommended that I use Mir instead...and apparently that is some sort of display driver.
[03:46] <krismatrix> Isn't Unity a desktop environment.
[03:46] <krismatrix> ?
[03:46] <reisio> krismatrix: someone's ignorant
[03:46] <[Saint]> The "security issues" with X11 are laughable at best.
[03:46] <reisio> krismatrix: X is fine, Unity is a DE, technically
[03:46] <[Saint]> Newsflash. Your compositor can spy on you.
[03:46] <[Saint]> Welcome to the world.
[03:46] <krismatrix> compositor?
[03:46] <krismatrix> what is that
[03:47] <reisio> Mir is something Canonical (Ubuntu) has been working on... I can't say I have much faith it will endure
[03:47] <[Saint]> I assume you're talking about the hilarious shenagigans regarding X.11 and Snappy?
[03:47] <[Saint]> And it being "unsafe"?
[03:48] <reisio> it's not likely you're using snappy
[03:48] <reisio> krismatrix: c'mon don't make us do all the talking for you :p
[03:48] <[Saint]> Using something or not has no bearing on the reactionary public.
[03:48] <reisio> [Saint]: ain't that the truth :p
[03:49] <krismatrix> uh...I don't know what Snappy is. I just read somewhere that it was a new software/program/implementation with Snappy...but don't know what it is.
[03:49] <[Saint]> Then you need not worry in the least.
[03:49] <krismatrix> And yes..I believe the shenangians regarding x.11 and snappy is probably what I am referring to.
[03:50] <[Saint]> that wasn't really "news", just someone pointing out something working exactly as intended and crying fowl of it.
[03:50] <krismatrix> [Saint]: Why would I not need to worry?
[03:50] <[Saint]> see above.
[03:51] <[Saint]> If snappy package developers don't want to mark their packages as untrusted, it is their own damn fault.
[03:51] <krismatrix> So...why is this not a security issue?
[03:52] <[Saint]> because there are provisions for this already, if you don't want to compositor to be able to spy on what your snappy package is doing, don't class it as a trusted element.
[03:52] <krismatrix> ok...so what Is this compositor? And actually what is this snappy package?
[03:52] <Abe_> hello i need dependencies i cannot find libsteam_api.so and libopenal-eon.so.1
[03:53] <jason__> trying to run hostapd but get this wlx74da38417dba: interface state DISABLED->DISABLED
[03:53] <Abe_> any idea were i can find them or how to install them?
[03:53] <[Saint]> krismatrix: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Compositing_window_manager
[03:53] <jason__> how do i enable it?
[03:53] <[Saint]> krismatrix: and a snappy package is like a snapshot the brings in all its dependencies locally.
[03:54] <[Saint]> bah - grammatical errors.
[03:55] <e-coffee> 0
[03:55] <Abe_> cmon I just miss 2 more f* dependencies I got 99% by myself pls help http://paste.ubuntu.com/16588874/
[03:56] <Abe_> libsteam_api.so and libopenal-eon.so.1
[03:56] <tgm4883> Abe_: those don't exist in any packages in 16.04
[03:57] <Abe_> tgm4883: I use 14.04 luckily
[03:58] <Bashing-om> Abe_: Do not find them either : http://packages.ubuntu.com/search?searchon=contents&keywords=libsteam_api&mode=filename&suite=trusty&arch=any .
[03:58] <tgm4883> Abe_: they aren't in 14.04 either
[03:58] <Abe_> ahhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh i get this somehow
[03:58] <B0g4r7_> There's libopenal-dev, but thet doesn't have this -eon bit.
[03:59] <Abe_> :(
[03:59] <[Saint]> my guess is that it is screwing up its own dependencies and it expects to bring this all to the party itself.
[03:59] <[Saint]> it would probably help to know what it is you're actually doing.
[03:59] <B0g4r7_> Trying to run a game, it sounds like.
[03:59] <Abe_> opening an .sh progam
[04:00] <Abe_> program/game yes
[04:00] <[Saint]> that is infinitely vague.
[04:00] <Abe_> somebody said on google
[04:01] <Abe_> Fixed by copying libsteam_api.so from one of my Steam games into one of the known /usr/lib directories.
[04:01] <Abe_> can this work
[04:01] <Abe_> hopefully i hate dependency problems
[04:01] <B0g4r7_> A game like Witcher 2.
[04:01] <Abe_> no a game like saints row 4
[04:02] <Abe_> why don't those programs come all with their own dependencies already shipped?
[04:02] <Abe_> so annoying to get them afterwards by yourself
[04:02] <[Saint]> my suspicion is they do, but it is screwing it up.
[04:02] <B0g4r7_> Are you sure it downloaded and installed correctly?
[04:03] <Abe_> 1 yes it did and 2 i don't need to install
[04:03] <[Saint]> relying on these libraries to be provided by the system is a recipe in failure.
[04:03] <Abe_> but yes CRC check went good game is fine
[04:03] <ItsMeLenny> hello all, i have a CD that will not read in ubuntu 16.04, this is my dmesg http://paste.debian.net/hidden/591d16f3/ . i have had this cd read and install under ubuntu before, it is the game Theme Park World on cd. I have tried it in two drives (SATA and USB) and it gives the same error. I tried it in a windows laptop in two drives (the inbuilt and the same USB one) and it runs perfectly fine. any help would be great
[04:04] <[Saint]> as far as I can there's no reason for them to exist in the system and no package or metapackage to pull them in.
[04:04] <[Saint]> so $GAME messing this up is likely entirely $GAME's fault.
[04:05] <B0g4r7_> I assume you've tried running ldconfig manually, yes?
[04:05] <tgm4883> Abe_: where did you get SR4 in a .sh file? It ships with everything it needs in steam
[04:05] <Abe_> tgm4883: cuz im smart
[04:06] <tgm4883> Abe_: huh?
[04:07] <Abe_> that i got SR4 in an .sh file :D
[04:07] <Abe_> I still need those dependencies
[04:07] <Abe_> :(
[04:07] <[Saint]> Yes. Very smart to do this outside of Steam where it "Just Works". Mhm.
[04:08] <Abe_> Yes but now it's standalone
[04:08] <Abe_> which i like
[04:08] <[Saint]> Is it? Seems like it doesn't even run to me.
[04:08] <Abe_> until i have those 2 dependencies im still missing it won't
[04:09] <Abe_> i got 99% those 2 i will get too >:(
[04:09] <B0g4r7_> Best of luck.
[04:09] <krismatrix> back again....so the gist is that there is no security concern with ubuntu16.04
[04:09] <B0g4r7_> Security is always a concern.
[04:09] <xangua> krismatrix: install only from official repository
[04:10] <[Saint]> No *new* security concerns. :)
[04:10] <tgm4883> Seems like the only way to get SR4 in a .sh file is via questionable places
[04:10] <krismatrix> what is the 'official respository'?
[04:10] <krismatrix> you mean just stuff on ubuntu software center?
[04:10] <Abe_> [Saint]: I know there are not provided by the system
[04:12] <B0g4r7_> Sorry to say, we're not here to help you find missing pieces of the commercial software you're trying to pirate.
[04:13] <Abe_> or cd
[04:13] <pauljw> krismatrix, i recommend the first thing you install from Software Center is synaptic package manager.  much better for finding and installing software from the official repositories.
[04:13]  * dowell waves hello
[04:13] <krismatrix> I do have synaptic. I use it when the ubuntu software center isn't satisfactory.
[04:14] <pauljw> ok
[04:14] <[Saint]> B0g4r7_: But then who will help me crack my MIRC.exe? Khaled's tryin' to shake me down!
[04:14] <krismatrix> So...snappy in 16.04. Why were people concerned or do people believe it may be insecure?
[04:15] <tgm4883> krismatrix: the security concerns that people were talking about aren't with snappy. They are with X11
[04:15] <Abe_> Yes i found libsteam_api.so like this guy said... it's in steam games
[04:15] <jaro> tgm4883, what is the concerns?
[04:16] <[Saint]> Some genius basically discovered that if you don't mark an asset as untrusted that the compositor can spy on that asset.
[04:16] <[Saint]> WHich has been true for approximately...always.
[04:16] <reisio> there haven't been compositors always :p
[04:16] <[Saint]> Well...you know what I meant! :p
[04:16] <reisio> anyway, people concerned with security don't run desktop environments
[04:17] <[Saint]> precisely.
[04:17] <reisio> always :)
[04:18] <krismatrix> ok
[04:18] <tgm4883> This is true, that has been the case forever.
[04:18] <krismatrix> ok.
[04:20] <jaro> well ya everything can spy on everything else in x11
[04:20] <jaro> there is no gui isolation
[04:21] <Abe_> Oh im dumb
[04:21] <[Saint]> you could probably "solve" this by ssh to localhost with -X, no?
[04:22] <[Saint]> ...or just run the asset(s) as untrusted to begin with.
[04:22] <Abe_> they were provided but i took their permissions away thx anyway
[04:22] <jaro> so I have an issue when i load a program from terminal.  its icon doesn't show in the notification panel up top unless I load it from the applications menu
[04:22] <jaro> but how can I change the launch options from the application menu in unity?
[04:22] <Abe_> besides that one i had to take it from steam
[04:23] <jaro> anyone know? :(
[04:25] <jaro> tgm4883, i'm using unity,  how do I change the launch options for a specific application?
[04:25] <jaro>  /usr/share/applications/.desktop file?
[04:25] <xangua> jaro: what software and why are you running it from terminal?
[04:26] <jaro> pgl
[04:26] <krismatrix> ok...is it safe to run  ssh on 16.04?
[04:26] <jaro> but i had to install gksudo, it has to open with sudo
[04:27] <xangua> !info pgl
[04:27] <jaro> xangua, ok well editing the .desktop file did the trick
[04:27] <jaro> xangua, peerguardian linux
[04:27] <[Saint]> jaro: errrr...huh?
[04:27] <jaro> [Saint], ?
[04:28] <[Saint]> just doing 'gksudo' should open a prompt asking what to run, and as who.
[04:28] <jaro> [Saint], its not installed in ubuntu bey default apparently.
[04:28] <[Saint]> You don't need to do 'sudo gksudo', but perhaps I misparsed your statement.
[04:28] <jaro> oh and crap so it still doesn't show in the notification menu apparenlty unless its opened as regular user
[04:28] <jaro> hmm,  how can i get the icon to show in notification panel?
[04:28] <rexsumego> hi
[04:29] <jaro> i'm trying to like unity, but man its real hard.
[04:29] <rexsumego> i know
[04:29] <jaro> xangua, do you know how i can get this applications icon to show in the notification panel?
[04:29] <jaro> it only shows if opened as a regular user.
[04:30] <karan> java user
[04:32] <jaro> oh god its not even working lol
[04:33] <reisio> twss
[04:33] <reisio> wait
[04:33] <reisio> :p
[04:33] <jaro> I don't think unity is going to work out...
[04:34] <reisio> jaro: it doesn't need to :D
[04:35] <jaro> I might try kubuntu
[04:37] <jaro> man pgl is not even working for some reason.
[04:37] <jaro> its not blocking anything I dunno why
[04:41] <Abe_> nice I got it yay
[04:44] <Abe_> thx for no help :P
[04:45] <jaro> well thats it time to uninstall ubuntu....wow....
[04:46] <[Saint]> you're uninstalling Ubuntu because you dislike the DE?
[04:46] <jaro> [Saint], peerguardian isn't even blocking anything its freaking me out
[04:46] <jaro> I don'[t know why this is happening
[04:47] <[Saint]> PeerGuardian is a bag of crap without enough active development to keep it afloat.
[04:47] <jaro> [Saint], https://sourceforge.net/p/peerguardian/discussion/446996/thread/80253887/
[04:47] <jaro> woops
[04:47] <[Saint]> I mean...SourceForge.. c'mon!
[04:47] <[Saint]> One can only hate themselves so much.
[04:47] <jaro> if you say so...
[04:48] <jaro> peerguardian is great when using browser or torrents
[04:48] <jaro> I feel naked without it man.
[04:48] <[Saint]> "PeerGuardian Linux:
[04:48] <jaro> and why would it not be working on ubuntu 16.04?  i dont' get it.  it even was updated for it supposedly
[04:48] <[Saint]> Actively developed. However the team is very small and with few spare time. Contributors are welcome!"
[04:49] <[Saint]> ....just what you want in a firewall.
[04:49] <jaro> i use ufw along side of it guy
[04:49] <jaro> its not a real firewall its a blacklist
[04:49] <jaro> blocks like half of the ipv4 space for me
[04:49] <[Saint]> ...which is a firewall.
[04:49] <jaro> you can click to temp allow some ips or ports on the fly its great
[04:49] <jaro> but ya,  that means i'm getting rid of ubuntu for sure
[04:50] <jaro> back to mint I go.
[04:50] <jaro> I probably should be using debian lol
[04:50] <[Saint]> Oh wow. Even better. It is entirely closed source.
[04:50] <[Saint]> hahahaha.
[04:50] <jaro> its gpl
[04:51] <[Saint]> Ah, yes, sorry, I misread an awkward sentence.
[04:51] <jaro> "PeerGuardian is an open project. Not only is its source code open for you to read, use, and modify - but the project is open for you to join and contribute in any form (code, documentation, bug reports, web and support)."
[04:51] <jaro> just one of those security tools that peopel are now taught not to use
[04:51] <jaro> when they need it now more then ever lol
[04:52] <jaro> apparmor is even becoming deprecated now,  its a shame.  its one of the reasons i like ubuntu based distros
[04:52] <jaro> we need it now more then ever.
[04:52] <jaro> pgl intsalled fine but its not blocking anything something is very very wrong.
[04:52] <[Saint]> what's wrong with iptables?
[04:53] <jaro> i'm using ufw it uses iptables
[04:53] <jaro> again,  pgl is not a firewall replacement
[04:53] <[Saint]> no, it is a superfluous addon.
[04:53] <jaro> superfluous?
[04:53] <[Saint]> entirely.
[04:53] <jaro> god i fkn hate irc.  the fkn lions den
[04:53] <jaro> teaching everyone to be vulnerable for the lulz
[04:54] <jaro> this is why we live in the digital world we do nowadays...
[04:54] <[Saint]> No. I'm saying "it does nothing you can not do without it".
[04:54] <jaro> the 90s were so much better
[04:54] <[Saint]> You're missing the point hun.
[04:54] <jaro> i can't live without it man
[04:54] <jaro> are you kidding me?
[04:54] <[Saint]> You can. You won't.
[04:54] <[Saint]> Different things.
[04:54] <jaro> i woudln't touch any torrents,  and no the argument that my ip in the swarm doesn't matter.  its all about p2p connections.
[04:54] <jaro> and yes using it in a browser is great
[04:54] <jaro> better then oscript lol
[04:55] <jaro> i feel totally naked right now
[04:55] <[Saint]> there's nothing stopping you from forming the same blacklists with $other_product
[04:55] <jaro> you didn't read what i said before
[04:55] <[Saint]> I did.
[04:55] <jaro> the great thing about pgl,  is you can one click to temp allow ip's on the fly
[04:55] <jaro> name me another program i can do that with.
[04:55] <jaro> if i block 1/2 or 1/3 of all the 4 billion or w/e ipv4 blacklists that exist
[04:55] <jaro> how can I do that?
[04:56] <jaro> say i'm browsing a webpage.  things on the page are not connecting cause pgl blocks them.
[04:56] <jaro> i have pgl running on screen,  i can read the ips,  ports,  the descriptions of who they are for.   and then click on it and only temporarily allow it for like 15 mins or so.
[04:56] <jaro> name me another program that can do that.
[04:57] <jaro> everybody just wants to hack the shit out of other people for kicks nowdays
[04:57] <jaro> nobody writes defensive programs man,  you are dreaming.
[04:58] <jaro> ands if for some mysterious suspicious reason its installing but not actually working on ubuntu.  i'm gonna pass on ubuntu.
[04:58] <jaro> i'd rather block 3 billion ipv4 addresses right off the bat on my machine.
[04:59] <jaro> and if ubuntu don't like that,  bye bye ubuntu.
[04:59] <jaro> I might as well use windows...
[04:59] <[Saint]> You're making some very far reaching logic leaps. Good day to you Sir and.or Madam.
[04:59] <jaro> well then again there is peerblok for windows.  but iblock list just went paid subscription only for everything this week
[04:59] <jaro> they use to let you get some lists for free,  but jeez.  on linux i can still get them all for free
[05:00] <jaro> i'm gonna try a --reinstall maybe that will help?
[05:01] <jaro> nah it aint working man
[05:01] <jaro> wow
[05:02] <jaro> I don't get why its not working i'm totally in shock right now
[05:04] <jaro> maybe it also has to do with iblocklist going all paid subscription now
[05:04] <jaro> every year,  the internet dies a little more for me.
[05:04] <jaro> its becoming a sad sad digital world we live in nowadays...
[05:04] <jaro> somebody give me a time machine so i can go back to pre 2005
[05:04] <reisio> jaro: ok
[05:05] <jaro> we are all fkd nowadays,  i don't care who you think you are
[05:05] <reisio> I just realized something
[05:05] <[Saint]> If it involves this conversation stopping, I'm sure someone would've done so by now.
[05:05] <[Saint]> Therefore, no time travel.
[05:05] <[Saint]> Proof positive folks.
[05:05] <reisio> yeah when we get a time machine, first we'll go back and save ourselves
[05:05] <jaro> this sucks...
[05:06] <reisio> what does?
[05:06] <jaro> security being non existent in the present digital age.
[05:06] <jaro> and everybody in the industry being evil.
[05:07] <jaro> the fact the internet is now called facebook an twitter,  and computers are now called androids and iphones...
[05:07] <jaro> the fact we no longer have digital freedom or privacy and are totally limited.
[05:08] <[Saint]> Frustrated people who rant to others about topics they don't care for still exist, thankfully.
[05:08] <[Saint]> yay!
[05:08] <jaro>  ya pat yourself on the shoulder
[05:08] <jaro> you are part of the problem.
[05:09] <ipatrol> Ok, so I accidentally hosed the partition my /var directory was on
[05:09] <[Saint]> You're the one that made some weird logic jump between "doesn't use obscure firewall" and "doesn't use firewall at all".
[05:09] <[Saint]> Go rant in *-offtopic about it if you're still tickled.
[05:10] <ipatrol> is there any way to reinstall the system without destroying my /etc directory?
[05:10] <reisio> ipatrol: back it up
[05:10] <ipatrol> reisio: haha, funny
[05:10] <ipatrol> oh wait, you mean the /etc directory
[05:10] <reisio> heh
[05:10] <reisio> you used to work as a stripper or something? :p
[05:10] <abhishek> My touch pad moves everytime I type
[05:10] <reisio> yes, /etc
[05:11] <ipatrol> I thought you meant the /var directory, in which case, I would say, "too late"
[05:11] <reisio> abhishek: turn it off or lift your wrists up
[05:11] <jaro> [Saint], so much for downloading torrents now.  i'd be too scared to.
[05:11] <abhishek>  System Setting>Input Devices>Touchpad>Enable/Disable Touchpad has an option of Timeout, what should it be?
[05:11] <abhishek> reisio, ^
[05:16] <raymod2> Is there a known issue with Ubuntu Software Center not being able to install .deb files?
[05:17] <raymod2> I create one using dpkg-deb and it installs OK from the terminal (using 'dpkg -i foo.deb') but it doesn't work through Ubuntu Software Center (ie. when double-clicking the file).
[05:19] <brianx> can anyone point me to directions for swapping out unity for mate?  of all things, the friggin "smart" scrollbar is the one that i just can't get over and all the instructions for turning it off don't work on 16.04.
[05:19] <reisio> unity-tweak-tool does that, IIRC
[05:19] <tonyt> brianx just install the desktop enviroment using cli
[05:20] <brianx> "sudo apt install mate"???
[05:20] <tonyt> google "installe mate cli ubuntu"
[05:20] <tonyt> -e
[05:21] <tonyt> you will find the correct command
[05:21] <brianx> reisio: nope, apparently it does in 16.04.  seems that it did in earlier versions.
[05:21] <raymod2> I also noticed that Ubuntu Software Center has similar problems installing the .deb file from Google for Google Earth.
[05:21] <raymod2> This is on 16.04 LTS.
[05:21] <reisio> brianx: IIRC: dpkg -r --force-all ubuntu-desktop; apt-get install mate-desktop; apt-get autoremove
[05:22] <brianx> reisio: thank you.
[05:22] <reisio> google's binaries are trash
[05:22] <reisio> that's why they're hard to install
[05:22] <B0g4r7_> I gave up running the native google earth.
[05:22] <B0g4r7_> I run it in wine now.
[05:22] <reisio> not unrelated, I dare say, with their code in general being trash
[05:22] <B0g4r7_> Works much better that way,
[05:23] <reisio> I only rarely use it for viewing kmls
[05:23] <reisio> which I'm sure there're other apps for
[05:23] <raymod2> B0g4r7_ - but I am seeing the same problem installing my own .deb files.
[05:23] <xangua> brianx: for the record starring with 16.04 "smart scrollbars"are no longer a unity thing but a GNOME thing
[05:24] <reisio> yes, Unity being mostly GNOME
[05:24] <e-coffee> hi is omg ubuntu an official ubuntu site?
[05:24] <reisio> there's a potential for it to be a general GTK+3 annoyance, though
[05:24] <xangua> e-coffee: no, is OMG chrome an official chrome site?
[05:25] <e-coffee> http://www.omgubuntu.co.uk/2015/09/how-to-watch-hulu-on-ubuntu-1404-up well to be more specific i'm not sure i want to install this ppa?
[05:25] <e-coffee> to play hulu and hbo-go on ubuntu
[05:25] <brianx> xangua: interesting.  they suck.  completely unusable via vnc, annoying as hell even locally.  normal scrollbars could easily scroll a line at a time, a page at a time or grabbing them let you scroll to a specific spot.
[05:26] <e-coffee> apparently i need a hardware abstraction layer
[05:26] <raymod2> Here is what I see in /var/log/syslog:May 21 22:22:36 ubuntu gnome-session[1607]: (gnome-software:1762): Gs-WARNING **: failed to call gs_plugin_app_install on apt: GDBus.Error:org.debian.apt.TransactionFailed: error-no-package: Package myapp isn't available
[05:26] <raymod2> May 21 22:22:36 ubuntu gnome-session[1607]: (gnome-software:1762): Gs-WARNING **: State change on (null) from available to installed is not OK
[05:26] <e-coffee> xangua fiik that's why i asked
[05:26] <reisio> haven't heard Hulu mentioned in ages
[05:26] <jaro> e-coffee, i know for hbogo i have to install hal and flashplugin and use firefox
[05:26] <jaro> all deprecated
[05:27] <e-coffee> jaro do you use this ppa?
[05:27] <jaro> all fkn three including firefox imo,  but its only thing that works
[05:27] <jaro> let me scroll up which ppa?
[05:27] <e-coffee> sudo add-apt-repository ppa:flexiondotorg/hal-flash
[05:28] <jaro> ya i think thats the one i used in ubuntu
[05:28] <jaro> so you just install that,  then the regular flashplugin installer and use firefox
[05:28] <jaro> i also did all the pipelight stuff in the past,  thats all ajoke and runs crappy
[05:28] <jaro> just use normal flash and hal and firefox and ou good to go
[05:28] <e-coffee> thanks jaro :D
[05:28] <jaro> np
[05:29] <jaro> you know whats really sad,  the android tablets are more supported for all this shit
[05:29] <jaro> excuse my language i'm sorry.
[05:29] <raymod2> So Ubuntu doesn't allow you to install .deb files that don't come from their own repositories?
[05:30] <jaro> raymod2, huh?
[05:30] <raymod2> Is this some kind of walled garden?
[05:30] <reisio> you try freshplayerplugin?
[05:30] <e-coffee> getdeb?
[05:30] <reisio> raymod2: it does
[05:30] <raymod2> reisio - I want my users to be able to download my .deb package and double click it to install it
[05:31] <reisio> that only takes gdebi, IIRC
[05:31] <reisio> which is probably already installed
[05:31] <raymod2> What is gdebi?
[05:31] <reisio> frontend to dpkg, IIRC
[05:31] <xangua> brianx: it seems tho that the behavior of the new GNOME scrollbars has to do with the theme settings, using xubuntu denial default theme and scrollbars in gtk 3 apps don't hide
[05:32] <raymod2> When you double click a .deb file in Ubuntu 16.04 LTS it launches the Ubuntu Software Center.
[05:32] <jaro> xangua,  probably uses gtk2 stuff in it
[05:32] <reisio> raymod2: should work, too, then
[05:32] <reisio> Xfce hasn't been ported to GTK+3 yet
[05:32] <raymod2> It doesn't.
[05:32] <reisio> it's up to the theme, though
[05:32] <raymod2> There is an Install button but when you click it nothing happens.
[05:32] <reisio> GTK+3 just has really asinine Mac OS style defaults
[05:32] <reisio> raymod2: reassociate it to use gdebi, then
[05:33] <raymod2> reisio - I can't ask my users to do that
[05:33] <reisio> why would you
[05:33] <raymod2> I need it to just work when my users double click the .deb file.
[05:34] <reisio> I'm guessing it will if you reassociate it to use gdebi
[05:34] <[Saint]> which you also couldn;t ask every user to do.
[05:34] <raymod2> I guess I don't understand what you are suggesting.
[05:34] <reisio> I'm not sure you two understand it
[05:35] <reisio> you wouldn't ask them to fix the software frontend, either
[05:35] <reisio> it's the same problem, only my suggestion is an actual solution
[05:35] <brianx> xangua: i'm a long term fedora user, this denial stuff wasn't in fedora so i've no clue
[05:35] <[Saint]> reisio: only it isn't, because the intent is to minimize user interaction and have things Just Work.
[05:36] <raymod2> Saint, yes exactly.
[05:36] <itaeho> 하이
[05:36] <itaeho> hi
[05:36] <[Saint]> I parse this as raymod2 as the distributor, and that flow being precisely what he wants to avoid.
[05:36] <itaeho> 누구 없나요
[05:36]  * reisio shakes head
[05:37] <reisio> something wrong with your logic circuits
[05:37] <reisio> anyway: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/gnome-software/+bug/1573206
[05:37] <[Saint]> reisio: there's no logic failure there - it just flat out wasn't a valid solution.
[05:37] <raymod2> I could also ask my users to open a terminal and run 'dpkg -i foo.deb' but most users would not be capable of doing that.
[05:37] <reisio> if you say "thing is broke and we can't get users to fix it" and I say "you can fix it by doing foo", and your response is "no!" then I don't know what else to say to you :p
[05:37] <[Saint]> it was precisely what he wanted to avoid.
[05:37] <reisio> [Saint]: what was, doing anything at all? :p
[05:37] <[Saint]> "manualy futzing around" does not a one click installer make.
[05:38] <reisio> I can identify with that, but it's pointless to complain and not try to fix things
[05:38] <jaro> brianx, denial stuff?
[05:38] <[Saint]> reisio: sure, but, one assumes that asking the to micromanage this is (rightly) out of the question.
[05:38] <[Saint]> *asking the user to
[05:39] <brianx> i assume it's something related to debian "alternatives", but no clue.  was in reply to xangua's list of instructions for gnome scrollbars.
[05:39] <[Saint]> I parsed the question not as "how can I get this working by any means" but more "why does this not work as I expect it".
[05:39] <reisio> I assumed he wanted things fixed for _his users_ because he controls _his users'_ installs
[05:39] <reisio> :p
[05:39] <brianx> jaro: it was unfortunately jiberish to me.
[05:39] <raymod2> reisio - that bug report you mentioned sounds exactly like what I am seeing
[05:39] <reisio> well for that you want #ubuntu-philosophy-without-solutions :p
[05:39] <raymod2> So this is a known issue?
[05:40] <reisio> I s'pose it's possible I linked to it because it isn't?...
[05:40] <reisio> :p
[05:40] <raymod2> And since I created my .deb package from a 16.04 LTS installation it sounds like Ubuntu is rejecting any .deb file that doesn't come from its own repository.
[05:41] <[Saint]> It isn't.
[05:41] <reisio> go to the end of the bug I linked to
[05:42] <miladdd> hi
[05:42] <raymod2> I was convinced this was a bug on the 3rd-party files I tried to install because I REFUSED TO BELIEVE an LTS release of Ubuntu would get this far with such bug, this is unacceptable. This is so sad.
[05:42] <raymod2> I will consider this a "jump ship right NOW" warning, so I'll take it.
[05:42] <raymod2> LOL
[05:43] <[Saint]> If you needed it to work _right now_ I guess you could make a wrapper for it that just went through dpkg and then apt to resolve dependencies.
[05:43] <reisio> it's very common—but quite incorrect—to confuse "LTS" to mean "more stable"
[05:43] <HackerII> eye,eye, matey
[05:43] <raymod2> Saint, you mean package it inside an executable file?
[05:43] <reisio> [Saint]: now you're saying what I said earlier that you complained about :p
[05:43] <reisio> he means reassociate it to use gdebi :p
[05:43] <reisio> oh the times...
[05:44] <miladdd> is it possible to force synaptic to use aria2 instead of wget for packages downloading?
[05:44] <[Saint]> I mean nothing of the sort.
[05:44] <reisio> miladdd: undoubtedly
[05:44] <reisio> [Saint]: stop saying it then :p
[05:44] <raymod2> How can I change a .deb file so that it will be opened by gdebi instead of Ubuntu Software Center?  Doesn't every user need to do that himself?
[05:44] <reisio> raymod2: no
[05:44] <reisio> it's just a filetype association
[05:45] <raymod2> Yes, and filetype associations are the domain of the end user.
[05:45] <raymod2> How can I control what happens when an end user double clicks a .deb file?
[05:45] <reisio> only inasmuch as everything is the domain of the end user, once the end user is end using, if the end user so chooses
[05:45] <miladdd> how is it?
[05:46] <raymod2> I might as well just tell my end users to uninstall Ubuntu and install OS X.  Because my OS X package "Just Works".
[05:46] <raymod2> Or my Windows package.
[05:46] <reisio> good idea
[05:47] <reisio> just tape $70 for the OS to your package, and $2000 for the hardware
[05:47] <codfection> guys ubuntu apt get orking fine?
[05:47] <codfection> working*
[05:47] <reisio> codfection: ...yes?
[05:47] <[Saint]> Ok. So you _are_ just trying to deliberately derail things.
[05:47] <[Saint]> Good to know.
[05:47] <codfection> I am in airport and apt get update is not working
[05:47] <codfection> :(
[05:47] <reisio> codfection: maybe your connection is terrible
[05:47] <reisio> in an airport that'd not surprise me
[05:48] <codfection> perhaps
[05:48] <codfection> and one more thing
[05:48] <codfection> my chrome is not visible
[05:48] <codfection> last time I use pc it was there
[05:48] <reisio> where?
[05:48] <codfection> what could be the problem
[05:48] <codfection> in laptop
[05:48] <reisio> in the laptop, eh?
[05:48] <codfection> yea
[05:48] <[Saint]> I had a feeling there for a while you were actually invested in the situation. Sorry about that reisio.
[05:48] <reisio> on the launcher?
[05:48] <codfection> let me show u pastebin
[05:48] <codfection> error
[05:48] <raymod2> reisio, OS X is free.  Where does the $70 come from?  And hardware that runs Ubuntu is free?
[05:48] <reisio> [Saint]: ?
[05:49] <codfection> in dash and everywhere its gone
[05:49] <reisio> raymod2: no, it's not free :)
[05:49] <raymod2> I downloaded it and installed it on a VM and I didn't notice a dip in my bank account.
[05:49] <reisio> codfection: maybe it's not installed
[05:49] <codfection> it  was
[05:49] <reisio> raymod2: right, but you aren't going to tell the IRS that
[05:49] <codfection> reisio,
[05:50] <codfection> please check
[05:50] <reisio> codfection: maybe it isn't now
[05:50] <raymod2> Why would the IRS care that I downloaded a free copy of OS X?
[05:50] <codfection> http://paste.ubuntu.com/16590579/
[05:50] <reisio> raymod2: because it's not free :D
[05:50] <codfection> even in apt update its giving chrome error
[05:50] <[Saint]> It is.
[05:50] <codfection> yesterday I had chrome installed
[05:50] <reisio> nawp
[05:50] <[Saint]> It is.
[05:50] <reisio> nawp
[05:50] <raymod2> I downloaded OS X *from Apple*
[05:50] <reisio> raymod2: to your apple computer?
[05:50] <ac1dh0n3ycl0ud> [Saint]: then I totally got screwed on that snow cat thing i paid for...
[05:51] <reisio> ac1dh0n3ycl0ud: don't mind them, they're lost
[05:51] <raymod2> No, to my PC that I built myself.
[05:51] <codfection> any one help me please. I had chrome installed now its gone and having this error http://paste.ubuntu.com/16590579/
[05:51] <reisio> raymod2: like I said, you wouldn't be telling the IRS this :p
[05:51] <ac1dh0n3ycl0ud> you build a vm?
[05:51] <raymod2> My VM runs on my PC.
[05:52] <ac1dh0n3ycl0ud> which you built?
[05:52] <reisio> and your Mac OS runs illegally on your VM :p
[05:52] <ipatrol> reisio: what?
[05:52] <[Saint]> Wait wait wait...just so I'm clear, are you saying that it isn't "free" because you already paid for the Mac?
[05:52] <raymod2> Yes, I built my PC with parts from NewEgg and Amazon.
[05:52] <[Saint]> Because upgrading hasn't cost me a single penny.
[05:52] <reisio> [Saint]: you're suggesting things you paid for are free? :p
[05:52] <reisio> ipatrol: ?
[05:52] <codfection> any help guys? I guess its support irc ??
[05:52] <ipatrol> [Saint]: because Apple is a jackdonkey
[05:52] <[Saint]> I paid for the hardware, the OS on it in incidental.
[05:52] <abaddon_> this irc channel is filled with nonsense right now
[05:53] <reisio> abaddon_: ssdd ;)
[05:53] <raymod2> LOL, abaddon
[05:53] <reisio> codfection: if you want chrome, install it
[05:53] <reisio> [Saint]: sure it is, heh
[05:53] <ipatrol> yes Father abaddon_, we know
[05:53] <codfection> reisio, I had it installed...
[05:53] <raymod2> Let's just please find a solution so my users can double click my .deb file and install it on Ubuntu.
[05:53] <codfection> its gone automatically :O
[05:53] <codfection> and apt is having this error
[05:53] <reisio> codfection: that's unlikely, but hopefully of less concern than actually obtaining it
[05:53] <[Saint]> ac1dh0n3ycl0ud: I'm guessing you missed the upgrade boundary and get caught with that weird $20 fee?
[05:53] <reisio> raymod2: already did
[05:53] <reisio> more than one
[05:54]  * ac1dh0n3ycl0ud nods
[05:54] <abaddon_> I'll click on your deb file and delete it
[05:54] <[Saint]> ac1dh0n3ycl0ud: aha, right, that explains things.
[05:54] <raymod2> reisio - I said "double click" not "become an Ubuntu expert to install my software"
[05:54] <ac1dh0n3ycl0ud> it was ten dollars last time
[05:54] <reisio> raymod2: there's a bug for it
[05:54] <reisio> if sitting on your hands is your thing, keep it up
[05:54] <reisio> will work itself out soon enough
[05:55] <raymod2> The bug was filed a month ago.
[05:55] <abaddon_> then fix it
[05:55] <reisio> oh yeah?
[05:55] <reisio> what time of day was it filed?
[05:55] <reisio> this fascinates me
[05:55] <reisio> tell me more :)
[05:55] <HackerII> el oh el
[05:55] <raymod2> LOL, let's get the guy who broke it to fix it.
[05:55] <reisio> well if it's a problem with GNOME, you won't have much luck
[05:55] <reisio> all GNOME bugs are features, IME
[05:56] <ipatrol> raymod2: sadly, that's typical GNOME development "logic"
[05:56] <reisio> canonical will probably fix it though
[05:56] <raymod2> I hope I don't have this much trouble when I create a .rpm file for my Fedora users.
[05:56] <Guest69422> hi, when printing a directory to a file from the command line (ls *.txt > outfile.txt), is there a way to include some text before each file is listed in a new line?
[05:56] <reisio> if gnome won't
[05:56] <ipatrol> Why Ubuntu has stuck with them I'll never know
[05:57] <reisio> because people stick with GNOME
[05:57] <codfection> guys any idea for this error?
[05:57] <codfection> http://paste.ubuntu.com/16590579/
[05:57] <reisio> now why people do that... we'll never know :p
[05:57] <abaddon_> its got a cool name?
[05:57] <reisio> I think "it's not KDE" is the answer
[05:57] <ipatrol> reisio: I'm actually convinced that the GNOME package in Ubuntu is nothing more than a large collection of downstream packages to fix stuff the GNOME devs broke, like the Ship of Thesus.
[05:58] <abaddon_> maybe someone should create halfling
[05:58] <reisio> which is funny in a way
[05:58] <ac1dh0n3ycl0ud> actually I kind of like kde
[05:58] <raymod2> Guest69422 - you can use sed for that (after you create the file)
[05:58] <ipatrol> ac1dh0n3ycl0ud: I'm on KDE right now
[05:58] <reisio> some people do like KDE
[05:58] <reisio> not GNOME users, though :p
[05:58] <Guest69422> raymod2: how?
[05:58] <ac1dh0n3ycl0ud> i've gone back and forth
[05:58] <Abe_> kde best
[05:58] <ipatrol> reisio: I used to be a GNOME user
[05:58] <ipatrol> the operative word being "used to be"
[05:58] <reisio> been using Xfce since 2005
[05:59] <reisio> hasn't betrayed me once
[05:59] <HackerII> kde is a cadilac running on 3 cylinders
[05:59] <ac1dh0n3ycl0ud> reisio: yes
[05:59] <reisio> no bizarre KDE 3 -> 4 shifts, no bizarre GNOME 2 -> 3 shifts
[05:59] <reisio> no lead developers leaving and going back to Mac OS
[05:59] <ipatrol> reisio: I have one machine on MATE, one on Xfce, and one on KDE
[05:59] <raymod2> sed -i 's/\(.*\)/my prefix \1/' foo.txt
[05:59] <reisio> no Qt guit toolkit for-profit badly licensed nonsense :p
[06:00] <ipatrol> reisio: that 5h1t was resolved ages ago
[06:00] <codfection> reisio, is this error  because of QT
[06:00] <ac1dh0n3ycl0ud> i just don't like gnome because for all the resources it uses you'd think you'd be getting something nicer
[06:00] <codfection> i installed qt offline runner
[06:00] <reisio> ipatrol: which 5h1t?
[06:00] <ipatrol> about the Qt licensing
[06:01] <reisio> codfection: the reason the package you want to be installed is not installed is less important than how to install it again, IMO
[06:01] <ac1dh0n3ycl0ud> and kde is too nice... in an intrusive way like 'what if i didn't want that' or 'what if that just doesn't work for some reason'
[06:01] <ipatrol> ac1dh0n3ycl0ud: "too nice"?
[06:01] <codfection> reisio, its automatically disappear
[06:01] <reisio> ipatrol: stink that doesn't go away, particularly since it's on its nth for-profit owner/developer
[06:01] <codfection> disappeared!
[06:01] <reisio> codfection: nope
[06:01] <codfection> yesterday I was using chromme
[06:01] <reisio> sadly magic does not really exist in this world
[06:01] <ipatrol> reisio: yeah, and GNOME is practically a Red Hat project by now
[06:02] <reisio> not the way we wan it to, not really, not without drugs :D
[06:02] <codfection> or ubuntu LTS is damn unstable that it removes my applications without my permission?
[06:02] <reisio> codfection: well, LTS doesn't mean stable
[06:02] <ipatrol> codfection: your ubuntu is a yandere :-P
[06:02] <reisio> but probably some way or another you told it to
[06:02] <codfection> no wonders its a free OS
[06:03] <reisio> ^ffr, good way to end conversations :p
[06:03] <raymod2> reisio - what version of Ubuntu is stable?
[06:03] <ipatrol> codfection: MS proves you don't always get what you pay for
[06:03] <codfection> ipatrol, apple does thou
[06:03] <reisio> raymod2: no version, Ubuntu has no stable branch
[06:03] <reisio> it's sourced from Debian's unstable branch
[06:03] <ipatrol> codfection: apple is a PITA without the falafel
[06:03] <reisio> mmm, falafel, so good
[06:04] <Abe_> raymod2: none of them all linux distros are completely unstable and and you cannot use them so better use windows
[06:04] <ac1dh0n3ycl0ud> ipatrol: also it used to slow my machine down
[06:04] <reisio> Abe_: cute
[06:04] <raymod2> I've had the chance to play around with a lot of OSes recently while porting my application and I have to say OS X is the nicest.
[06:04] <ipatrol> Abe_: which will crash stochastically and sells all your usage data to the NSA, and leaks all your user files to the Chinese
[06:04] <codfection> Abe_, yup no wonder business users use OS X
[06:04] <ac1dh0n3ycl0ud> ipatrol: it wouldn't now but i'm still upset about it
[06:05] <codfection> and professionals
[06:05] <reisio> heh
[06:05] <HackerII> convert to lindoze
[06:05] <abaddon_> i prefer dos
[06:05] <codfection> and they said linux is better than OS X lool
[06:05] <reisio> it's cute, when you send msgs
[06:05] <ac1dh0n3ycl0ud> i think debian is
[06:05] <ipatrol> Apple otoh is collecting it for themselves so they can build Skynet and take over the world
[06:06] <reisio> won't work, skynet hates cardigans
[06:06] <reisio> makes its neck look big
[06:06] <ipatrol> reisio: turns out that's a compile-time option :-P
[06:06] <HackerII> MS comes with free vaccines
[06:06] <reisio> --with-cardigan?
[06:06] <ipatrol> yeah
[06:06] <reisio> :p
[06:06] <Abe_> that was a joke.. linux is a do it yourself thing.. you need to fight with it.and need to get a huge headache. but at one point, you have a nice running system
[06:06] <reisio> same bugs happen on any distribution of any OS
[06:06] <abaddon_> its not that big a headache
[06:06] <codfection> Abe_, and then one mistake and boom ur apps are gone
[06:07] <reisio> with an open source one, you can actually fix them yourself
[06:07] <ipatrol> Abe_: at least when Linux gives me a headache, I know how to get rid of it
[06:07] <reisio> unless you're too lazy
[06:07] <codfection> actually not even a mistake if I recall
[06:07] <reisio> mmm, sleepy time
[06:07] <ipatrol> with Windows if it doesn't go away on reboot, I'm at the mercy of MS' arcane system design and byzantine customer support department
[06:07] <reisio> adios mon amis
[06:08] <Abe_> well I go through the headache and fix every little thing and them I'm happy :D... codfectio never happend to me actually
[06:09] <raymod2> OSes should not give you a headache.  None of them should.
[06:09] <ipatrol> of course, the wonderful thing about free software, is that if you lose all your apps, you can get them all back
[06:09] <abaddon_> in utopia
[06:10] <ipatrol> raymod2: ideally, but this is the real world we're living in
[06:10] <abaddon_> but we live in reality where an os is a complicated group of many pieces of software
[06:10] <raymod2> Like a CPU that sometimes gives you incorrect results when you add 2 + 2.  Just not acceptable.
[06:10] <Abe_> my kubuntu runs stable.. I wouldn't have to restart for weeks if i don't want to, and for years it never slowed down on me even with hundreds of applications on it.
[06:10] <ipatrol> *cough*intel*cough*
[06:10] <abaddon_> all trying to accomplish all the tasks any random person might think of
[06:11] <Abe_> never experienced that on windows
[06:11] <raymod2> I do have FreeBSD running a web server on my Raspberry Pi and it hasn't been rebooted in 9 months.
[06:11] <ipatrol> my router has decent uptime, now that I have DD-WRT on it
[06:11] <HackerII> hasent used bsd since 3.6
[06:12] <raymod2> abaddon_ - are you coughing about the Pentium floating point math error from 20 years ago?
[06:13] <ipatrol> raymod2: by the definition under Turing's theorem, every computer must be able to, given enough time and resources, be able to compute literally anything which can be represented by a finite-length program
[06:13] <ipatrol> no matter how completely bonkers it is
[06:13] <abaddon_> and that is why we only create infinite length programs from here on out
[06:13] <abaddon_> so windows won't crash
[06:14] <ipatrol> abaddon_: the busy beaver program
[06:14]  * abaddon_ is busy unrolling an infinite loop
[06:15] <ipatrol> abaddon_: so how are things going over at the Church of the Empty Inbox? :-P
[06:17] <Abe_> here i have a problem with my pc that i wasn't able to solve yet.. everytime i restart my pc my fans just blow full speed :(.. i need to turn my pc completely off and back on and then my fans work correctly idk what causes it to behave like this after a restart?
[06:18] <Guest69422> has anyone used sed to append text to all new lines in a file?
[06:18] <Jaro> well it seems pgl still works,  it just aint working on my ubuntu install :(
[06:18] <Guest69422> I am trying to understand how it works... but I havent found an example. I need to append some text to all lines in a text file
[06:19] <ipatrol> I remember an old joke is that the difference between email and regular mail, is that email is delivered by computers, and computers don't just come in one day and decide to shoot all the other computers
[06:19] <ipatrol> Guest69422: usually Perl is good for that
[06:19] <Abe_> could it be a kernel problem?
[06:19] <raymod2> Guest69422 - what is wrong with the example I gave you?
[06:19] <ipatrol> Abe_: install fancontrol, then run pwmconfig as root
[06:20] <EriC^^> Guest69422: sed 's/$/text/' /path/to/file
[06:20] <Guest69422> raymod2: sorry, I didnt see it. Thanks
[06:20] <ipatrol> EriC^^: no, he said append
[06:20] <ipatrol> that replaces it
[06:20] <EriC^^> ipatrol: that appends
[06:20] <Abe_> ipatrol: i'll look into it thx.. but do you think a program can fix this because the problem appears at boot
[06:20] <EriC^^> nop
[06:21] <abaddon_> what if all the recent errors we've collectively experienced are the computers going postal
[06:21] <abaddon_> and not the fault of sloppy code at all
[06:21] <ipatrol> Abe_: once you've run pwmconfig, fancontrol will come on at boot
[06:21] <meth> what makes LTS version preferable over the normal version of ubuntu?
[06:21] <Seveas> abaddon_: that would give programmers far too much credit.
[06:21] <abaddon_> or user error
[06:21] <Seveas> meth: you don't have to upgrade every half year...
[06:21] <raymod2> Eric's answer is more succint, though.
[06:22] <ipatrol> abaddon_: I was more going for a comparison between going postal and DDoS/email flooder scripts
[06:22] <Abe_> ipatrol: ok i hope it won't make more problems i am running pwmconfig now as root
[06:23] <ipatrol> Abe_: it's an interactive program, do what it says
[06:23] <abaddon_> it's a trap
[06:23] <ipatrol> it's a fish
[06:23] <raymod2> So LTS stands for 'long term support' but who is providing the support and how can I get some?
[06:23] <ipatrol> raymod2: Canonical, and by paying for it
[06:23] <abaddon_> pay for it
[06:24] <raymod2> Odd that noone has paid Canonical to fix bug 1573206 yet....
[06:24] <Abe_> ipatrol: /usr/sbin/pwmconfig: There are no pwm-capable sensor modules installed
[06:24] <Jaro> meth, considered more stable, and means you won't have to upgrade as often,  it receives regular security updates for a longer period.
[06:24] <ipatrol> Abe_: you may need to install the lm-sensors package
[06:25] <[Saint]> Jaro: Meth usually makes people unstable.
[06:25] <ipatrol> if that doesn't work, it's a BIOS-level problem
[06:25] <Jaro> [Saint], i'm still upset pgl is not working on my ubuntu install
[06:25] <Abe_> ipatrol: can I find it if i search "lm-sensors" in synaptic?
[06:26] <[Saint]> Jaro: Well, I don't see you blaming them for it.
[06:26] <Jaro> [Saint], blaming who?
[06:26] <ipatrol> Abe_: you should
[06:26] <Abe_> ipatrol: ok found it in synaptic
[06:26] <Jaro> pgl?  well it works in other distros.
[06:26] <abaddon_> sudo apt-get install lm-sensors
[06:26] <[Saint]> Jaro: So?
[06:26] <Jaro> so i blame ubuntu.
[06:26] <[Saint]> Other sitros != Ubuntu.
[06:26] <raymod2> It's starting to make sense now.  Canonical provides these "LTS" releases with basic functionality broken and then charges people to fix it?
[06:26] <[Saint]> So it is irrelevant.
[06:26] <ipatrol> abaddon_: is your username taken from Dresden Codak, or is it unrelated?
[06:27] <Jaro> so i blame ubuntu.
[06:27] <[Saint]> *distros, bah, typing.
[06:27] <abaddon_> ipatrol: unrelated
[06:27] <Jaro> unity is a nightmare as well,  it lives up to its reputation lol
[06:27] <[Saint]> Jaro: you're free to do so, but, that won't make it right.
[06:27] <Sebastien> Let's say i would like to make email addresses and manage them, the easy way. How would i preceed? (mailbox, manage, create, delete)  i am completely lost. (latest ubuntu)
[06:27] <Abe_> it still says /usr/sbin/pwmconfig: There are no pwm-capable sensor modules installed
[06:27] <ipatrol> raymod2: no, they charge you to fix the things *you* break
[06:27] <Abe_> do i need to restart>
[06:27] <Abe_> ?
[06:27] <Jaro> installing mint or debian would make it right.
[06:27] <ipatrol> Abe_: probably means your computer lacks kernel-accessible temperature sensors
[06:28] <[Saint]> Jaro: So do so. No one cares what distro you use, or why.
[06:28] <ipatrol> older machine?
[06:28] <raymod2> I didn't break Ubuntu Software Center...
[06:28] <abaddon_> yes you did
[06:28] <Jaro> [Saint], you care
[06:28] <abaddon_> i saw you
[06:28] <Abe_> ipatrol: weird cuz i have an temperature widget on my desktop...
[06:29] <Jaro> [Saint], i'm gonna wait till the mint 18 beta comes out next month and just install that.
[06:29] <ipatrol> Abe_: then you probably lack any kernel-accessible *fan* controllers
[06:29] <Jaro> [Saint], ubuntu is feeling too much like windows to me now.
[06:29] <Jaro> and the whole point is try and avoid using windows now and be linux only.
[06:29] <ipatrol> sometimes you have to change an option in the BIOS to allow the OS access to the fan
[06:29] <brianx> xangua, jaro, and reisio, thank you all.  <3 my desktop again.  no annoying shadows, real scrollbars, normal menus, all the crap that was broken (to me) in ubuntu is suddenly fixed!
[06:29] <[Saint]> Jaro: it is really difficult for me to convey in writing how little I care. I'm sorry.
[06:29] <abaddon_> well not to do this here but windows has some good points
[06:30] <Abe_> ipatrol: this might be very well possible...
[06:30] <ipatrol> Jaro: [microscopic violin starts playing]
[06:30] <Jaro> abaddon_, the operating itself is good,  just don't trust microsoft.
[06:30] <xangua> brianx: did you switch to xfce? :-P
[06:30] <abaddon_> lately its hard to remember that but i like the base style of older operating systems like windows 95/xp
[06:30] <brianx> xangua: nope, mate.
[06:30] <raymod2> Jaro, especially with Windows 10 they have gone off the rails with privacy intrusion
[06:30] <Abe_> ipatrol: I don't think i can;t do this in my uefi
[06:30] <abaddon_> i of course like to customize a bit as well
[06:30] <Abe_> can*
[06:31] <ipatrol> Abe_: if it's uEFI, it should be even easier
[06:31] <Jaro> abaddon_, ya after windows 7 they pretty much went bad business.
[06:31] <abaddon_> vista was the downhill slide for me
[06:31] <ipatrol> I thought you were using an older system
[06:31] <Jaro> raymod2, not even just that, things they have done to try and force upgrades are just insane.
[06:31] <abaddon_> sure 7 was better but it was too late
[06:31] <brianx> xangua: i thought about xfce but wanted something a bit more complete.  i miss the available widgets n things available in a bigger desktop.  i just don't want anything that some developer said "that looks cool" on my desktop.
[06:31] <Jaro> raymod2, almost criminal
[06:31] <ipatrol> abaddon_: I didn't have any real problems with Vista, but I can't use >7
[06:32] <abaddon_> the only reason i even have a windows partition is for my aerodrums and im constantly hounding the devs to make a linux port.
[06:32] <Jaro> raymod2, did you hear the latest.  they broke secureboot on purpose for people using windows 7 and asus motherboards.
[06:32] <Abe_> ipatrol: no my Uefi is really dumb. but i will look again. any clues what i should look under even though you dont know my uefi chip nor version
[06:32] <Jaro> raymod2, whats crazy is how they publicly admit they are doing these thigns like its all ok not wrong.
[06:32] <abaddon_> its the resource requiremeents
[06:32] <ipatrol> abaddon_: aerodrums? have you asked the Ububtu Studio project to look into it?
[06:32] <raymod2> No, I didn't hear that.
[06:33] <Jaro> raymod2, ya can you imagine?  you go to turn on your pc and it doesn't boot haha
[06:33] <abaddon_> chances are if you are a power user you didn't notice because your system was already more than capable
[06:33] <Jaro> because microsoft said srcew you for not updating to windows 10. of course they deny thats the reason why they did it.  but what else coudl it be.
[06:34] <Jaro> raymod2, but they ahve been constantly sabotaging their own users time and time again the past year.
[06:34] <abaddon_> aerodrums are invisible drums that utilize a pseyetoy to track some reflective tape
[06:34] <ipatrol> Jaro: it is the m.o. of evil to claim there is nothing wrong with what they're doing
[06:34] <ipatrol> abaddon_: yeah, ask the studio project
[06:34] <Jaro> there is no way in hell i would ever use another windows.
[06:34] <Jaro> they are criminal now.
[06:34] <raymod2> Question: is Canonical less evil than Microsoft?
[06:34] <Jaro> raymod2, i'm starting to wonder right now.
[06:35] <Nullifi3d|Pi> ...
[06:35] <ipatrol> raymod2: yes
[06:35] <abaddon_> hopefully someone eventually makes something similar open source
[06:35] <Jaro> my inital response is yes.  but the more i use ubuntu, the more i'm growing concerned.
[06:35] <Gallomimia> LESS evil? certaily.
[06:35] <Jaro> i think mint is less evil then ubuntu
[06:35] <ipatrol> in the world of evildoers, Canonical is small fry
[06:35] <Nullifi3d|Pi> Jaro: why
[06:35] <Jaro> debian less evil then mint
[06:35] <Nullifi3d|Pi> Jaro: why concerned, that is
[06:35] <raymod2> LOL, "Canonical: the small fry evildoer"
[06:35] <Jaro> Nullifi3d|Pi, not liking the unity desktop for one.  I feel like i'm being limited in alot of ways.  it also uses way more memory then it should.
[06:36] <Gallomimia> you have to appreciate that all the hardware makers out there are already pwned. the software you run doesn't really matter
[06:36] <Nullifi3d|Pi> so change it?
[06:36] <Jaro> Nullifi3d|Pi, at this moment, its the fact my peerguardian is not working properly on ubuntu for mysterious reaosns i can't figure out.
[06:36] <Nullifi3d|Pi> thats the beauty of linux, completely customizable
[06:36] <Gallomimia> there's probably a backdoor in your ISP's router that's sitting in your house
[06:36] <[Saint]> If only you could change the DE to anything you preferred...
[06:36] <[Saint]> Oh well...
[06:36] <Jaro> Gallomimia, i know there is,  its publick knowledge on mine
[06:36] <Gallomimia> ergo, fussing about whether canonical is bad news, well.
[06:36] <[Saint]> Jaro: you're fussing about having to cut off your feet because you hate your new shoes.
[06:36] <Jaro> Gallomimia, well we all should i assume our routers are hostile
[06:37] <[Saint]> News Flash: shoes come off.
[06:37] <Jaro> Gallomimia, but your pc is still the endpoint.  you can still encryupt stuff past your router.
[06:37] <Gallomimia> Jaro: and... i've seen appliances made by mcaffee that claim to be able to decrypt all traffic passing thru
[06:37] <Jaro> hahah
[06:37] <Gallomimia> and they work.
[06:37] <[Saint]> and who in their right mind uses telco supplied routers?
[06:37] <Gallomimia> everyone.
[06:37] <ipatrol> [Saint]: you often have to
[06:38] <[Saint]> Uuuugh.
[06:38] <Gallomimia> we don't get a choice.
[06:38] <Jaro> Gallomimia, well when it comes to ssl,  they can forge certificates
[06:38] <Gallomimia> you can ask them nicely to activate "bridge" mode
[06:38] <Jaro> Gallomimia, i'd say thats pretty rare and nsa stuff though.
[06:38] <raymod2> Gallomimia - how does mcaffee decrypt traffic?  They have defeated AES?
[06:38] <Jaro> or elite criminal organizations
[06:38] <Jaro> who are about money not the lulz
[06:38] <Gallomimia> Jaro: yes. this particular network disallowed things that it couldn't decrypt. for example, i couldn't use SSH
[06:38] <Gallomimia> raymod2: i don't know. but i spoke to the network tech
[06:39] <Gallomimia> and it works.
[06:39] <[Saint]> Gallomimia: it was a joke - of course they haven't.
[06:39] <Jaro> raymod2, mcafee is smoking too much of that meth :)
[06:39] <Gallomimia> forged certs as jaro said
[06:39] <Jaro> ya thats the only way i can see
[06:39] <[Saint]> McAfee is just plain nuts dude.
[06:39] <Jaro> and its not as crazy as it sounds,  because there is so many ca's now.
[06:39] <Jaro> i'm sure there is gov't controlled ones.  and some corrupt ones.
[06:39] <[Saint]> Batshit insane.
[06:39] <Gallomimia> and this wasn't a super government entity. it was a gold mine
[06:39] <ipatrol> Jaro: are you implying there's a difference?
[06:40] <[Saint]> If McAfee could decrypt AES, he would've started at least two world wars by now already.
[06:40] <Jaro> Jaro, well the mafia and cia are two sides of the same coin.  but yes they are diff.
[06:40] <meth> http://kernel.ubuntu.com/~kernel-ppa/mainline/v4.5.5-yakkety/  => what is yakkety?
[06:40] <Jaro> [Saint], you can forge ssl certs.
[06:41] <Jaro> i doubt hes decrypting aes,  maybe in his dreams.
[06:41] <xangua> meth: next ubuntu
[06:41] <Jaro> but we do rely on ssl to get past our hostile routers.
[06:41] <Jaro> and prevent sniffing from hostile devices on our networks.
[06:42] <Jaro> but the endpoint is still always the most important cause all the encryption in the world matters not then.
[06:42] <meth> who chose this name for the next ubuntu and what that name means?
[06:42] <Jaro> which is why i find whatsapp on android phones hilarious
[06:42] <xangua> meth: Mark
[06:42] <meth> I can suggest better names
[06:42] <xangua> !yakkety
[06:42] <Gallomimia> :D
[06:42] <abaddon_> i like this name
[06:42] <ipatrol> I generally assume that every router not physically in my control, as well as all wireless lines, are susceptible to active traffic manipulation
[06:43] <abaddon_> it symbolizes this channel
[06:43] <[Saint]> <silly adjective> <animal>, in alphabetical run order.
[06:43] <[Saint]> It has been like this for an eternity.
[06:43] <Jaro> ipatrol, ya but like gallomimia said almost all firmware has hardcoded backdoors now.
[06:43] <Gallomimia> so, they're at Y already??
[06:43] <[Saint]> Yes.
[06:43] <Jaro> you have to install like open source firmware or something.
[06:43] <[Saint]> Well...technically X.
[06:43] <[Saint]> Y is +1
[06:43] <Jaro> which was actually easier in the late 90s early 2000s
[06:43] <abaddon_> zany zebra
[06:43] <Jaro> speaking of which i'm still waiting for my time machine...
[06:43] <Gallomimia> Jaro: i've seen a security presentation on what could be done if you had such firmware backdoors all across the country. faster-than-light MitM attacks
[06:44] <Jaro> cause the internet sucks nowadays lol
[06:44] <ipatrol> Jaro: not even that: the NSA has made hard drive malware that can't be removed in any way
[06:44] <[Saint]> Gallomimia: ummmm...nothing travels faster than light, dude.
[06:44] <Jaro> Gallomimia, back int he days i use to use tomato on a linksys wrt54g
[06:44] <[Saint]> Nothing.
[06:44] <Gallomimia> oh yeah i saw that one
[06:44] <Gallomimia> [Saint]: you obviously missed the point.
[06:44] <Jaro> Gallomimia, i don't even think tomato exists anymore...
[06:44] <[Saint]> You made a flawed statement?
[06:44] <[Saint]> No...I got that.
[06:44] <ipatrol> it does
[06:44] <Gallomimia> if you'd shut up i'll explain further
[06:44] <ipatrol> [Saint]: you're acting autistic?
[06:44] <pennTeller> Hi guys! Can anybody point me in the right direction? My ALFA card keeps disconnecting on ubuntu 16.04 :(
[06:45] <Jaro> ipatrol, are you being serious?  i thought only thing that is well maintained now is the umm what ya call it
[06:45] <meth> so they took the name from a famous song at 60s
[06:45] <ipatrol> ok, break time's over!
[06:45] <meth> that's poor choice of names
[06:45] <xangua> meth: ask Mark
[06:45] <Jaro> ipatrol,  openwrt,  because even dd-wrt is not well maintained anymore
[06:45] <meth> they should named it Vista!
[06:45] <Jaro> ipatrol,  and even if you can find these things you have to hope you have an old ass router they actually work on.
[06:45] <Jaro> openwrt is all there is now,  and its not easy.
[06:46] <ipatrol> pennTeller: what chipset is it?
[06:46] <Gallomimia> as the attack goes, a router in the network closer than the packet's destination forges IP's and MACs and sends an injected packet, causing the real one to be rejected as a duplicate. in this way the attack "beats" the speed of light.
[06:46] <ipatrol> Jaro: dd-wrt is the only thing that's compatible with my router
[06:46] <Jaro> back in the days tomato and dd-wrt were popular and chances are your currnet router worked well with them.
[06:46] <Gallomimia> it doesn't *GO* faster than light, it has an injection method to beat it
[06:46] <pennTeller> ipatrol, let me get that for you one sec
[06:46] <Jaro> ipatrol,  ah you are lucky
[06:47] <pennTeller> ipatrol, RTL8187
[06:47] <Jaro> ipatrol,  only things well maintained now are offensive hacking tools which people call "security" haha
[06:47] <Jaro> and if you want to use a defensive tool,  or like ask about one on irc.  you are deterred.
[06:47] <ipatrol> Jaro: the thing has a pitiful memory and flash storage
[06:48] <Jaro> ipatrol, your router? so it gets bogged down all the time?
[06:48] <ipatrol> Jaro: I don't know where you get that from, and I'm a pentester myself
[06:48] <Jaro> just listen to the insults i get for wanting to use pgl on my ubuntu.
[06:48] <lotuspsychje> !discuss
[06:48] <ipatrol> Jaro: no, becuase my home network is very small, but it amazes me how it can work on so little hardware
[06:48] <lotuspsychje> stick to ubuntu support please
[06:49] <ipatrol> Hai!
[06:49] <Jaro> ipatrol,  ya its great.  wish it worked on my router lol
[06:49] <Jaro> it only works on a real old revision of it.
[06:50] <meth> Where is Mark?
[06:50] <meth> yo Mark
[06:50] <Jaro> ipatrol, i always preferred tomato to dd-wrt back int eh days,  cause the qos settings worked better for me.
[06:50] <[Saint]> Jaro: if you find one instance of being insulted personally for wanting to use pgl, I'll buy and ship you a cookie of your flavor shoice.
[06:50] <meth> There is not Mark in the users list
[06:50] <meth> no*
[06:51] <Jaro> [Saint], lol you arealdy know you are who i was referring to.
[06:51] <ipatrol> logs or it didn't happen
[06:51] <meth> someone tell him to change the name to Vista.
[06:51] <[Saint]> Jaro: excatly, whci is why I made the claim.
[06:51] <[Saint]> I know you're lying.
[06:51] <Jaro> [Saint], I consider you a malicious hacker already dude.
[06:51] <lotuspsychje> stop it please
[06:51] <lotuspsychje> !ot
[06:51] <Jaro> hopefully ou don't actually influence any development decisions for ubuntu.
[06:52] <meth> lotuspsychje, me?
[06:52] <Jaro> its bad enough you are in the help channel,  like a wolf among sheep
[06:52] <[Saint]> Hopefully you choke on your tongue in your sleep. We all have dreams.
[06:52] <ipatrol> Jaro: if I wanted to, I could probably actually do harm to your router
[06:52] <lotuspsychje> !ops
[06:52] <Jaro> ipatrol,  it woudln't be hard.
[06:52] <baizon> lotuspsychje: thank you
[06:52] <ipatrol> Notice how it's still functioning ^_^
[06:52] <Jaro> ipatrol,  your type is whats wrong with the world
[06:52] <Jaro> more of you will be hanged and will be called a suicide
[06:52] <Jaro> more of your cars will mysteriously run off the word
[06:52] <Myrtti> could you people seriously cool off
[06:52] <abb4s> hi every body , i want to run tor network on my ubuntu , but i need to config bridge for it , so i send a email to : bridges@bridges.torproject.org but is dont send back any ips or ... it just reply some commands like : get bridges .can you help me ?
[06:53]  * ipatrol wonders if the ops will come, or if they're all busy watching Toonami
[06:53] <Jaro> or your families will just be bankrupted till they start killing themselves
[06:53] <ducasse> Jaro: if you don't have a support question then go elsewhere to chat/rant.
[06:53] <Jaro> those are the things that bring society joy nowadays...
[06:53] <Jaro> ipatrol,  nothing about you is for "security" you are a virus
[06:53] <Myrtti> Jaro: please
[06:53] <ipatrol> Jaro: because God help me, if the ops don't get here, I WILL take action to make you stop
[06:53] <Jaro> we will always have bugs till the end of time
[06:54] <Jaro> the only thing that will help society,  is learning morals.
[06:54] <Jaro> somethign you lack.
[06:54] <Jaro> trating the digital world with the same principles and morals as the physical
[06:54] <Jaro> ipatrol,  your kind cause more harm then good
[06:56] <ipatrol> "requested by Myrtti", is THAT how Konversation registers a kick?
[06:56] <[Saint]>  /remove
[06:56] <EriC^^> that's a freenode feature
[06:56] <Myrtti> ipatrol: no. that's how a remove shows up
[06:56] <EriC^^> so the client doesn't rejoin automatically
[06:56] <[Saint]>  /kick has the opportunity for the client to rejoin.
[06:56] <ipatrol> EriC^^: how long has that been implemented?
[06:56] <EriC^^> dunno
[06:56] <[Saint]> whoops - too many cooks.
[06:56] <Myrtti> over 10 years
[06:56] <pennTeller> shouldnt this conversation be happening on #ubuntu-offtopic?
[06:57] <ipatrol> never heard of it
[06:57] <ipatrol> pennTeller: probably XD
[06:57] <Myrtti> yes, let's move on
[06:57] <Nullifi3d|Pi> pennTeller: yup
[07:03] <Infern0> I'm having a hell of a time with a desktop environment issue I could use some help
[07:04] <Infern0> I'm trying to move to unity from xfce, I completely removed xfce but fail to get my desktop to attempt to load the default ubuntu environment (unity)
[07:05] <Infern0> I've purged and autoremoved everything I can, I've installed ubuntu-desktop from the terminal environment and rebooted but still nothing works so far
[07:06] <ducasse> Infern0: can you select unity when you log in?
[07:06] <Infern0> no or I'd have done that and skipped all this =(
[07:06] <svernagovich> 7j
[07:06] <Infern0> xfce didn't give me the option to do that
[07:06] <Infern0> not sure why
[07:07] <ducasse> Infern0: there is no entry for unity on the login screen at all?
[07:07] <Infern0> correct
[07:07] <Infern0> but I've removed everything, unity should be the only thing left
[07:07] <Infern0> still nothing
[07:08] <Infern0> it still tries to load an empty xfce desktop with a background, a mouse and nothing else
[07:08] <auronandace> lightdm is the default display maager, it will let you choose options only if there are more than one to choose from, you already removed xfce so it should default to unity
[07:09] <Infern0> I agree and after a reboot that shouldn't be needed, it should have just acted like a fresh install as far as desktop environment
[07:10] <auronandace> Infern0: did you remove xfce packages or did you try removing xubuntu-desktop?
[07:10] <Infern0> I purged the xfce4 common lib then also autoremoved xfce4
[07:11] <auronandace> Infern0: then i get the feeling you might have missed something but i wouldn't know what sorry
[07:12] <Infern0> how to i switch it to unity from the terminal?
[07:14] <auronandace> Infern0: it should just have been a case of installing ubuntu-desktop, logging out, choosing unity in lightdm and logging in again. not sure why you wanted to remove the option for xfce (removing desktop environments often causes hassles like this and you gain very little space from doing so)
[07:28] <pennTeller> Hi guys, any help fixing an ALFA wifi card with chipset rtl8187 that keeps dropping the connection for no aparent reason?
[07:30] <lotuspsychje> pennTeller: wich ubuntu version?
[07:31] <pennTeller> lotuspsychje, 16.04
[07:31] <lotuspsychje> pennTeller: perhaps try another driver/firmware ? from realteks website
[07:31] <lotuspsychje> !realtek | pennTeller
[07:32] <pennTeller> thanks ubottu will give it a shot
[07:32] <pennTeller> thanks lotuspsychje
[07:32] <lotuspsychje> pennTeller: another option could be checking syslog, see what kind of errors you get and testing a higher kernel out
[07:33] <pennTeller> lotuspsychje, I don't know exactly what im looking for on syslog
[07:34] <lotuspsychje> pennTeller: well you can try a realtime tail -f /var/log/syslog and play around with wifi a bit
[07:34] <auronandace> pennTeller: if you know the name of the driver then you could grep for that
[07:34] <meth> When i Dual Ubuntu with Windows on UEFI, Ubuntu installer partition table to Hyprid MBR with GPT, Windows doesn't like that and leads to Windows Failure to boot.
[07:34] <[Saint]> Hmmm, does ubottu not do the whole "I'm a robot" thing unless it is highlighted at the beginning of a message?
[07:35] <pennTeller> lotuspsychje, ok I will do that thank you
[07:35] <pennTeller> auronandace, thanks I will give that a shot
[07:35] <Graypup_> Linux at its finest:
[07:35] <Graypup_> > want to save RAM
[07:36] <Graypup_> > enable dynamic memory in the hopes that ubuntu vm ditches some that it wasn't using
[07:36] <Graypup_> > ubuntu vm allocates itself, completely unnecessarily, 1GB more than the startup amount
[07:36] <Graypup_> wheee hyper-v + ubuntu
[07:37] <baizon> !ot | Graypup_
[07:37] <Graypup_> anyway, the actual problem is that ballooning doesn't seem to work (removing unused ram)
[07:38] <Graypup_> the module wasn't loaded, I loaded it, and it allocated itself more RAM instead of removing it
[07:38] <abb4s> how can i run pluggable transport proxy => obfs4 for tor in : /var/log/tor/log it wrote that : we can't find a pluggable transport proxy supporting 'obfs4'. This can happen if you haven't provided a ClientTransportPlugin line, or if your pluggable transport proxy stopped running.
[07:38] <abb4s> i want to join to tor network . can you help me ?
[07:39] <pennTeller> abb4s, have you downloaded the TOR browser?
[07:39] <abb4s> pennTeller, i just do this : sudo apt-get install tor
[07:39] <abb4s> and this : sudo apt-get install obfs4proxy
[07:40] <pennTeller> that should've worked
[07:40] <pennTeller> what happens when you open the browser?
[07:42] <abb4s> pennTeller, when i open that it say : downloading signature
[07:42] <pennTeller> abb4s, try with tor-browser
[07:42] <auronandace> !tor | abb4s
[07:43] <Graypup_> moved it into modules-load.d, still isn't actually doing the ballooning and getting rid of unused RAM like it's supposed to
[07:43] <Graypup_> all the linux-virtual packages are installed
[07:44] <abb4s> pennTeller, Unable to locate package tor-browser
[07:46] <abb4s> auronandace, im behind the firewall and i cant get https://www.torproject.org/docs/debian.html.en , but i think perhaps I should just run obfs4proxy that tor can use it
[07:47] <abb4s> any one know how can i run obfs4proxy ?
[07:47] <pennTeller> abb4s, sorry can't help :(
[07:48] <abb4s> pennTeller, thank you buddy :)
[07:54] <akis> hi all. I freshly installed 16.04 over 14.04 (from the beggining) alongside windows 10. During installation i was asked if i wanted to install 16.04 over 14.04 (at the same partitions) and i answered: yes. Now my filesystem looks like this http://pasteboard.co/16IPJAwv.png. sda7 is accesed only via /media. Why? Can i make it my /home?
[07:59] <Bernzel> When I tried sudo apt-get update I got this http://paste.ubuntu.com/16591987/ note I just installed the kxstudio rep's , if that might have anything to do with it
[08:02] <[Saint]> Bernzel: it doesn't.
[08:02] <[Saint]> Re-install Chrome as you did prior if that is your intent.
[08:02] <CaptainCoward> does anyone know of a simple file hosting service that allows wget?
[08:17] <gabriele> ciao a tt
[08:41] <aruns> Hi, is there a channel for the Ubuntu SDK?
[08:41] <aruns> I installed QT Creator as I was hoping to use it to start developing small Ubuntu apps for practice.
[08:42] <mcphail> aruns: #ubuntu-app-devel might be a decent bet. You're best to install the actual SDK package rather than vanill Qt creator
[08:42] <aruns> mcphail: OK, thanks, will check them out.
[08:49] <vbotka> Bernzel, there is a problem with Chrome http://askubuntu.com/questions/741675/failed-to-download-repository-information-with-google-chrome-installed-on-ubuntu
[08:49] <vbotka> Bernzel, there is no such a problem with chromium-browser
[08:50] <tim241> hi guys I have a problem if I do sudo apt-get install gcc I will get this error http://pastebin.com/DG2NpW5b
[08:51] <tim241> plz help me
[08:51] <mcphail> tim241: have you run "sudo apt-get update" recently?
[08:52] <tim241> nope
[08:52] <tim241> fresh 64-bit install
[08:52] <ducasse> vbotka: well, chromium is a supported package, chrome isn't.
[08:53] <mcphail> tim241: then run "sudo apt-get update" first. Those are stale packages
[08:53] <tim241> ok
[08:53] <tim241> did it
[08:53] <mcphail> tim241: OK, should install now
[08:53] <tim241> I am upgrading now first
[08:53] <mcphail> tim241: remember to upgrade all the other packages as well for security purposes with "sudo apt-get dist-upgrade" or similar
[08:54] <mcphail> tim241: good idea
[08:54] <tim241> 17kb of updates
[08:56] <tim241> it works now thanks
[08:56] <mcphail> tim241: enjoy!
[08:56] <tim241> I am in windows running linux commands
[08:57] <tim241> is pretty cool
[08:57] <mcphail> tim241: Well, welcome to the Ubuntu community
[08:57] <tim241> ik I had ubuntu installed 3 days ago
[09:33] <snappy> On 14.04 lts is there a way to have a script run at startup/shutdown. I know about rc.local but can't seem to find an equivalent for shutdown.
[09:43] <[Saint]> snappy: /etc/rc0.d?
[09:43] <[Saint]> (scripts must be executable and without extension)
[09:44] <snappy> hm, that'd work
[09:45] <[Saint]> personally I softlink from /etc/init.d/* to /etc/rc*.d/*
[09:45] <[Saint]> but I doubt this is required.
[09:45] <[Saint]> just me being anal probably.
[09:49] <fiter> Hi everyone. Anybody here using Codeblocks on Ubuntu 16.04 LTS?
[09:49] <fiter> heeeeeeeeeeeeeyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyy
[09:50] <bazhang> patience fiter
[09:50] <fiter> I'm patient. Was. Till this moment.
[09:51] <bazhang> ask the real question fiter
[09:51] <fiter>  Anybody here using Codeblocks on Ubuntu 16.04 LTS?
[09:51] <[Saint]> That is not the question you want to ask.
[09:52] <bazhang> fiter some do, whats your issue
[09:55] <akronix> hi! does any body knows how to enter in the unity launcher config for an app?
[09:56] <akronix> dash launcher config*
[09:57] <fiter> bazhang, if you're not using Codeblocks you won't understand my problem. There is no control panel(int top left corner), no watch windows, some control components are invisible. It's verry buggy.
[09:57] <bazhang> file some bugs fiter
[09:58] <bazhang> !bug | fiter
[09:59] <esiodos> hola
[09:59] <snappy> [Saint]: do you know if the /etc/rc[0-6].d/ will pass arguments like start/stop?
[10:00] <bazhang> #codeblocks fiter
[10:00] <bazhang> try there fiter
[10:01] <[Saint]> I'm somewhat surprised the topic doesn't like to the "asking questions the right way" guide many other projects link to.
[10:02] <[Saint]> Don't ask to ask, ask direct questions, show your work, epected vs actual outcome, etc.
[10:02] <bazhang> !ask
[10:02] <bazhang> [Saint], ^
[10:02] <[Saint]> *link to
[10:02] <bazhang> !gq
[10:02] <[Saint]> bazhang: that's just a small part of it, though.
[10:02] <bazhang> [Saint], ^
[10:03] <[Saint]> Aha, that's better,
[10:03] <[Saint]> thanks.
[10:03] <bazhang> np
[10:03] <[Saint]> Would it not make sense to drop something to that effect in the topic?
[10:03] <[Saint]> Or am I kidding myself for thinking that may be valuable and people would read it.
[10:06] <bazhang> [Saint], the topic can only be so long, the factoids help
[10:07] <[Saint]> bazhang: Oh, sure, I'm aware. I just figure it could be lumped in with the channel guidelines.
[10:09] <[Saint]> maybe it is a reach but it seems to fit reasonably well with general channel conduct.
[10:10] <[Saint]> the reach is probably assuming that anyone likely to do so would actually read the topic in depth. so...yeah. nevermind, I guess.
[10:24] <alex123> how to get my dock station's USB working? got a dock from dell , display and charging is working, but no USB drivers arent showing up
[10:27] <ToAruShiroiNeko> alex123 make sure you have your docking station drivers loaded
[10:28] <ToAruShiroiNeko> typically doc station is a seperate hardware
[10:28] <alex123> ToAruShiroiNeko Dell doesnt offer drivers for linux, I found the display drivers on google but have no idea how to find the USB one
[10:29] <ToAruShiroiNeko> I do not know what to tell you, all my doc stations to date have been on windows machines
[10:29] <ToAruShiroiNeko> my ubuntu / linux installations tend to be virtual
[10:29] <ToAruShiroiNeko> so I am less experienced on the matter than you :(
[10:30] <alex123> ToAruShiroiNeko Im trying to find out what chipset controls the USB so that I can track down the driver on manufacturers site, lets see
[10:30] <nganu> where is the log of this channel?
[10:31] <ToAruShiroiNeko> alex123 to be fair they should be generic drivers
[10:32] <alex123> ToAruShiroiNeko I read people complaining about their docks, but they usually have trouble with the display, most of the time USB works out of the box, but in my case its the opposite
[10:35] <tiyowan> Hey folks, trying to install pepperflash for chromium, getting this: "ERROR: failed to retrieve status information from google : W: There is no public key available for the following key IDs: 1397BC53640DB551" Anyone have any workaround for this? Thanks!
[10:36] <Habbie> tiyowan, you probably need to load that key; the doc you followed to get to this point -should- tell you how
[10:36] <mcphail> !logs | nganu
[10:37] <nganu> mcphail: thanks, but weird, my last message doesn't appear there
[10:38] <tiyowan> Habbie: I tried "sudo apt-key adv --recv-keys --keyserver keyserver.ubuntu.com 1397BC53640DB551" but that doesn't work.
[10:40] <mcphail> nganu: the logs are only updated every hour
[10:42] <mcphail> nganu: but I have no log of a previous comment from you recently either
[10:43] <nganu> mcphail: forget that, perhaps my irc client failed to send the comments
[10:53] <BluesKaj> Hi folks
[10:57] <goneagain> H
[10:57] <goneagain> F
[10:58] <marcony> hello, how to change side on "minimize, maximize, close" buttons from left to right? i`m installed unity tweak soft but that option is gone?
[10:58] <goneagain> marcony: just get used to it
[11:00] <marcony> goneagain,  no, i need to change it
[11:00] <goneagain> If I connect to a vnc server over Wi-Fi without tunneling over ssh, is the password passed in plaintext?
[11:04] <goneagain> marcony: http://askubuntu.com/questions/174292/how-can-i-move-all-the-window-controls-to-the-right-or-left
[11:07] <Tabou> hello everyone
[11:07] <Tabou> is there anyone who install ubuntu 14 or 16 on a macbook Late 2011 (8.2)?
[11:08] <MonkeyDust> Tabou  that's a yes/no question, what brings you here
[11:09] <Tabou> MonkeyDust, thx for tour answer
[11:09] <Tabou> My macbook pro has its GPU dead...
[11:09] <MonkeyDust> !mac
[11:09] <Tabou> as a lot of people...
[11:09] <Tabou> So I have to forced ubuntu to use the intel graphic card
[11:10] <Tabou> I follow this page:
[11:10] <Tabou> https://orville.thebennettproject.com/articles/installing-ubuntu-14-04-lts-on-a-2011-macbook-pro/
[11:10] <Tabou> I manage to boot on the usb drive with the "out 0x..." modifications
[11:11] <Tabou> I install it on my sad (single boot, I removed completely OS X)
[11:11] <jason__> any dnsmasq pros?
[11:11] <Tabou> ssd not sad*
[11:11] <Tabou> When I reboot my mac, it stops on a purple screen.
[11:12] <EriC^^> Tabou: press esc
[11:12] <gdroid> hi
[11:12] <Tabou> I tried to modified Eric^^, I try now
[11:13] <Tabou> I am actually on a mother computer so I can do it easily
[11:14] <aanderse> hello i just installed ubuntu via the alternate installer so it left me with a bare bones system. i installed the ubuntu-desktop package but quite a few things are missing. there was no text editor, calculator, web browser, etc... just a desktop. does anyone know what package i'm supposed to install which will pull everything in?
[11:14] <Tabou> wow I reboot and arrived on grub! don't understand wihy
[11:14] <Tabou> i don't press esc..
[11:14] <Tabou> if I boot ubuntu, th screen is bad (probably using dead gnu)
[11:15] <Tabou> I will modified grub in order to add i915 modifications
[11:17] <EriC^^> aanderse: try sudo apt-get install ubuntu-desktop^
[11:17] <mcphail> aanderse: sounds like you didn't install the recommends
[11:17] <stunt1234> Hi after creating a bootable windows usb with winjsb
[11:18] <aanderse> EriC^^, mcphail: ahhh! great! thank you :)
[11:18] <EriC^^> aanderse: no problem
[11:19] <stunt1234> None of my installed ubuntus work. I get alert dev disk by uuid does not exist and then initra.fs prompt. I'm on my phone btw
[11:19] <aanderse> ok next question... the file, edit, view, etc... menus are in the actual application again, not up at the top of the screen like the previous ubuntu. anyone know how to put them back up at the top?
[11:20] <mcphail> aanderse: system settings -> appearance -> behaviour
[11:20] <aanderse> mcphail, does it require a logout/login to take effect?
[11:21] <aanderse> i tried that first and nothing happened
[11:22] <stunt1234> The winusb tutorial mentioned something about grub but during the process I didnt see any signs that my grub would be modified
[11:22] <aanderse> nevermind :) just noticed "appmenu" was on list of programs not installed as recommended dependencies
[11:22] <mcphail> :)
[11:22] <Xaratas> Hi, could someone assist me? I have a dance mat controller and its recognized by the system, but it does not emit any events. How to troubleshoot?
[11:22] <Xaratas> It works fine on windows
[11:23] <|Ost`Age|> Hello Hello :D
[11:23] <stunt1234> I've tried recovery mode but it lead to the same prompt
[11:24] <vbotka> Xaratas, have you tried xev ?
[11:25] <stunt1234> I would try using another live cd for troubleshooting but I have no .eans to do so. All I have is my phone and the initramfs prompt
[11:26] <Xaratas> vbotka: I have tried evtest, and directly cat the /dev/input/eventX
[11:27] <Xaratas> vbotka: xev stays silent too for the dancemat
[11:28] <stunt1234> Is there anything I can do?
[11:29] <vbotka> Xaratas, I see. I have no more ideas.
[11:33] <varuna> guys if i install windows after installing ubuntu is there any way to install grub
[11:34] <BluesKaj> varuna, boot repair
[11:34] <BluesKaj> !boot-repair
[11:34] <BluesKaj> !info boot-repair
[11:34] <varuna> how do i get into boot repair it will load into windows straight away
[11:35] <BluesKaj> varuna,it's a live cd
[11:35] <MonkeyDust> !grubrepair
[11:35] <varuna> ahh so i load up the live cd and run boot repair?
[11:36] <BluesKaj> varuna, https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Boot-Repair
[11:37] <varuna> thanks heaps
[11:39] <pi_> Hi
[11:40] <e-coffee> is there any reason why amazonaws.com would be continually connecting to ubuntu?
[11:50] <Seveas> e-coffee: that depends on what the connection is.
[11:50] <e-coffee> kk Seveas, probably just need to do some cookie cleanup
[11:52] <Seveas> that sounds utterly unrelated. What kind of conenections are coming to your computer from aws?
[11:53]  * simon_ says hellow
[11:53] <MonkeyDust> e-coffee  delete ~/.cache ... see if that helps
[11:53] <e-coffee> thanks guys :)
[11:54] <Seveas> MonkeyDust: how on earth would that prevent connections from aws to an ubuntu machine?
[11:55] <lavinho> e3276 no linux ?
[11:56] <lavinho> tutorial e3276 ubuntu please
[11:57] <BluesKaj> lavinho, what is e3276?
[11:57] <lavinho> huawei e3276
[11:57] <lavinho> moble broadband
[11:57] <BluesKaj> which is?
[11:57] <lavinho> mobile broadband
[11:58] <lavinho> not detected network manager
[11:58] <Seveas> lavinho: it usually helps if you speak in full sentences, explaining what the issue is...
[11:58] <everson> Hi all. I'm on 14.04 and trying to connect my BlackBerry Q10 via USB to backup files. I can't access the files on my blackberry. I understand the USB connection restricts access to the media card only. I'm also aware of the WiFi / Samba connection route, but don't have access to WiFi. Is there a way around this USB restriction? Thanks.
[11:59] <lavinho> I do have access to wi fi. I do not know if there is way around
[12:00] <BluesKaj> lavinho, https://trick77.com/setting-up-huawei-e3276-150-4g-lte-usb-modem-ubuntu-server-desktop/
[12:02] <lavinho> Look for default devices ...
[12:02] <lavinho>  No devices in default mode found. Nothing to do. Bye!
[12:04] <anom> Hai
[12:05] <anom> If i do "cd directory", how can I write another command after that without having to enter first?
[12:05] <Ben64> command; other command
[12:05] <anom> thanks
[12:06] <akis> hi all. Fresh installation of xubuntu 16.04 alongside win 10. Very slow boot (over 100 secs). Here is systemd-analyze blame: http://paste.ubuntu.com/16597500/ .Any idea or help to reduce boot time?
[12:06] <lavinho> +CME ERROR: SIM PUK required
[12:07] <Ben64> akis: 2 minutes doesn't sound bad
[12:08] <nickar> fresh install though
[12:18] <vbotka> akis, SSD would help. I'm just curious. How long win10 boot does take?
[12:18] <akis> Ben64: the system is: HP 250 G3 15.6'' INTEL DUAL CORE N2840 4GB 500GB. Under 14.04 booted at almost st 50 secs. My other notebook without win alongside and the same configuration boot up to log screen at 50 secs. But this notebbok needs now double time up to log screen. why?
[12:18] <akis> vbotka: win 10: some secs only !
[12:20] <Xaratas> magic bios setting "fast boot" not enabled?
[12:22] <lau-> So I just installed strongswang and network-manager-strongswan, but when I try to add a VPN connection via the GUI it doesn't show up. Any ideas?
[12:24] <MonkeyDust> !info strongswan
[12:25] <akis> i am reading some similar complains at ask.ubuntu, but no solution. Any idea?
[12:25] <lau-> akis: about strongswan?
[12:26] <akis> lau: strongswan?
[12:29] <jemadux> akis: try #ubuntu-gr
[12:29] <eldeep> صباح الفل
[12:30] <MonkeyDust> !arabic
[12:32] <tim241> hi guys if I try to compile my android kernel this is the error I get: http://pastebin.com/iBBt0qbs
[12:32] <tim241> I have gcc and g++
[12:32] <akis> jemadux: why at #ubuntu-gr they will have a solution for slow boot?
[12:36] <firman> i just experience freeze again while watch video with totem, please help me! suspicious syslog -> http://paste.ubuntu.com/16598339/
[12:37] <tim241> all my packages of my system: all my packages: http://pastebin.com/XUL09SAa
[12:38] <Quatroking> hey for some reason the cursor jumps to the first character in a line shortly after loggin in
[12:38] <Quatroking> running in CLI
[12:38] <tim241> please help me
[12:39] <Quatroking> for example, the cursor would go under f in foo@bar:~$
[12:40] <Quatroking> overwriting the text as I type
[12:40] <Quatroking> this only happens once per session and sometimes it will happen during the login itself
[12:44] <Archeus> hey
[12:44] <Archeus> how to install unity webplayer on firefox or chrome ?
[12:44] <furiouspenguin> Hello
[12:45] <Archeus> hi
[12:46] <furiouspenguin> after restarting my computer my dock disapears, how can I solve this?
[12:46] <furiouspenguin> Did you checked the plugins-list, Archeus?
[12:46] <Archeus> yes
[12:46] <Archeus> didnt find unity there
[12:47] <ducasse> Archeus: the site says it only supports os x and windows.
[12:48] <Archeus> ah with pipelight ?
[12:49] <jamesl> I'd like to install Ubuntu alongside windows 10 on my laptop, but there is no unallocated space on my hard drive. Can ubuntu resize existing partitions without deleting data? I only need around 10GB
[12:49] <Habbie> jamesl, boot from a live dvd/usb and use gparted
[12:49] <Habbie> oh wait
[12:49] <Habbie> different way around
[12:49] <Habbie> i think ubuntu can, yes
[12:49] <Habbie> and otherwise a live dvd/usb with gparted can :)
[12:50] <jamesl> Habbie: but can I do that from the ubuntu CD, or do I need an ubuntu CD and a gparted CD?
[12:50] <Habbie> https://help.ubuntu.com/community/HowtoResizeWindowsPartitions#Ubuntu_CD_Installer
[12:50] <Habbie> it also mentions windows has a disk management tool that can do it
[12:50] <Habbie> i suggest reading that whole page
[12:51] <|{Ost`Age}|> https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WindowsDualBoot
[12:51] <MonkeyDust> jamesl  i tried that years ago... it's possible with gparted in a live session, but it's very slow... and backup first
[12:52] <tim241> I fixed the problem now I am getting an other error: http://pastebin.com/upNu9bUm
[12:55] <akis> well. dsmeg reports a gap here: http://paste.ubuntu.com/16599053/ . Any idea why?
[12:56] <boss> buongiorno
[12:58] <|{Ost`Age}|> buongiorno boss
[12:58] <boss> buongiorno
[13:12] <DJones> !it | boss
[13:12] <boss> ok ricevuto but i speak english also
[13:14] <tim241> !eng | boss
[13:14] <tim241> sad
[13:16] <JemoeE> I have a problem on my SMTP mailserver. It is set up with Postfix and Dovecot, and should require AUTH but somehow spammers are able to send from my email without AUTH. See a snippet from mail.log on http://pastebin.com/raw/s9KsqKNE
[13:20] <gde33> the bright orange for focused items is great but when the application loses focus it turns gray which is not at all easy to see
[13:20] <gde33> are these system colors configurable some place?
[13:21] <gde33> or is it a Deluge problem?
[13:21] <gde33> it seems all applications use these colors...
[13:26] <TimPeoples> JemoeE, have you looked at: https://help.ubuntu.com/lts/serverguide/postfix.html#postfix-smtp-authentication
[13:27] <JemoeE> TimPeoples, im actually missing the "smtpd_sasl_security_options = noanonymous" so i will try to add that
[13:33] <craptalk> anyone here?
[13:33] <TimPeoples> That would be my first guess, yeah
[13:38] <TimPeoples> JemoeE, you may also want to check whether you have "reject_unauth_destination" as part of "smtpd_recipient_restrictions" (although I don't know for sure... it just looks slightly related)
[13:40] <TimPeoples> "reject_unauth_destination" is explained here: http://goo.gl/qdKaca
[13:43] <JemoeE> TimPeoples, im not sure, it looks like it rejects the destination (rcpt to), and i want to reject the "client" ?
[13:44] <TimPeoples> yeah... I thought about that
[13:44] <cyberdp> tess
[13:44] <cyberdp> :v
[13:45] <cyberdp> hi, im ubuntu user from indonesia :v
[13:49] <Queenslayer> Anyone aware of any conflicts with xcfe and unity?
[13:50] <Queenslayer> *xfce
[13:51] <suresh> #drupal-migrate  join
[13:51] <suresh> join #drupal-migrate
[13:51] <MonkeyDust> suresh  it's   /join
[13:52] <spiffyk> Hi guys, I've got a minor and probably a bit uncommon problem. I've enabled Scroll Lock through xmodmap because I need it in FL Studio (running through Wine). However, whenever Scroll Lock is on, I can't use Fn+Volume up/down to change volume. Does anyone have an idea how to get rid of that behaviour?
[13:52] <Queenslayer> MonkeyDust, was that meant for me though?
[13:52] <suresh> #drupal-migrate
[13:52] <Queenslayer> drupal?
[13:52] <Queenslayer> suresh, for xfce and unity?
[13:53] <MonkeyDust> suresh  type   /j #drupal-migrate
[13:53] <suresh> thank u
[13:54] <huesaurus> Queenslayer, why would you use unity in the first place :)
[13:54] <spiffyk> Also I should probably mention that I'm running Ubuntu MATE 16.04
[13:54] <Queenslayer> 16.04 baby
[13:54] <Queenslayer> It's the way forward :p
[13:54] <Queenslayer> spiffyk, did you try Unity?
[13:55] <spiffyk> I didn't
[13:55] <spiffyk> I don't like it, personal preference :)
[13:55] <Queenslayer> It's new, so it will take time for old habits to die :)
[13:55] <egsome__> How to report bots sending spam messages here ?
[13:56] <DLmass> Stupid spam bot
[13:56] <spiffyk> I may try it, eventually. I'm just getting started with going Linux-only
[13:56] <Queenslayer> I've not received any, does that mean I'm the bot?
[13:57] <Queenslayer> Or have I just been lucky?
[13:57] <Queenslayer> spiffyk, I'm still dual boot :(
[13:57] <Tabou> Eric^^, are you still here?
[13:57] <Queenslayer> Need to wean myself of it slowly
[13:58] <Queenslayer> EriC^^ is a legend
[13:58] <Tabou> I manage to install ubuntu on my macbook pro
[13:58] <Interdictor> Afternoon all
[13:58] <Tabou> I have just a problem.
[13:58] <Queenslayer> Afternoon Interdictor
[13:59] <Queenslayer> Tabou, dual boot?
[13:59] <Tabou> no single boot ubuntu
[13:59] <Queenslayer> what's up?
[13:59] <Tabou> when I boot my mac I have a folder with a "?" inside
[13:59] <spiffyk> Well, Queenslayer, MS made me upset up to the point that when I got my new laptop this Thursday, I just went and got rid of the preinstalled win10 thing and put UbuntuMATE on it.
[14:00] <Tabou> if I plug my USB drive (with live dvd on it), the ubuntu installed on my sad boot without problem
[14:00] <Queenslayer> Tabou,
[14:00] <spiffyk> No mercy :D
[14:00] <mivi> Hello everyone I'm using ubuntu 15.04 and want to create a wifi hotspot to connect my android phone and have tried a lot of things on internet but nothing seems to be working, has anyone been successful in doing so?
[14:00] <Tabou> sad =ssd
[14:00] <Queenslayer> spiffyk, MS has a way of doing that to people
[14:00] <MonkeyDust> mivi  15.04 is dead, upgrade first, then ask again
[14:00] <Queenslayer> Tabou,
[14:00] <Interdictor> Just a quick query, does a Nvidia Geforce GT 750M play well with ubuntu (dual graphics with intel)
[14:00] <depressed_> :-(
[14:00] <huesaurus> MonkeyDust,  microsoft much ?
[14:01] <spiffyk> Queenslayer, yeah, I noticed :D
[14:01] <Queenslayer> Tabou, are ou just seeing a question mark on boot?
[14:01] <Queenslayer> Or folder?
[14:01] <mivi> MonkeyDust: upgrade to 15.10 ?
[14:01] <Habbie> mivi, 16.04
[14:01] <Tabou> a grey folder with a question mark inside
[14:01] <mivi> Habbie: ok I'll do that
[14:01] <Carl__> Hello, Can anyone enlighten me as to how i use FFtest to test my Forcefeedback joystick?
[14:02] <Habbie> mivi, 15.10 is only supported for another 6 weeks
[14:02] <Habbie> mivi, 16.04 is supported until 2021
[14:02] <Queenslayer> Tabou, http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=767677
[14:02] <Queenslayer> That should do it
[14:02] <Tabou> Queenslayer, http://images.google.fr/imgres?imgurl=http%3A%2F%2Fi.stack.imgur.com%2FhmRFH.jpg&imgrefurl=http%3A%2F%2Fapple.stackexchange.com%2Fquestions%2F8517%2Fcant-boot-mac-only-shows-a-folder-with-a-question-mark&h=300&w=400&tbnid=3icsV25nTdPQxM%3A&docid=-1VxWAN5i_UDgM&ei=4rtBV-HONca1a5TFm_AF&tbm=isch&client=safari&iact=rc&uact=3&dur=274&page=1&start=0&ndsp=20&ved=0ahUKEwjhx6qp7O3MAhXG2hoKHZTiBl4QMwgtKAgwCA&bih=940&biw=1002
[14:02] <mivi> Habbie: Can I do that directly or first 15.10 then 16.04?
[14:02] <Habbie> mivi, i -think- the recommendation is to do it in two steps
[14:03] <mivi> Habbie: ok thanks :)
[14:03] <Habbie> mivi, i've often skipped that and came out of it fine, but i would only recommend that if you are experienced
[14:03] <Queenslayer> Tabou, are you there?
[14:03] <Queenslayer> Did you boot with CD or USB?
[14:03] <ubuntu-mate> yes
[14:04] <spiffyk> Can anyone help me? Scroll lock (enabled through xmodmap) disables my Fn+volume up/down keys. I've looked everywhere...
[14:04] <mivi> Habbie: I use arch, not much exerience in ubuntu have to use it for a project so I guess I'll do it in 2 steps :)
[14:04] <Habbie> mivi, good luck
[14:05] <huesaurus> mivi, how has arch been so far for you ?
[14:06] <Tabou> Queens layer I will try to put Refind on another USB
[14:06] <mivi> huesaurus: been using it for 2 years so not much problems now
[14:06] <mivi> huesaurus: but it took me a lot of time initially to set it up and for almost everything!
[14:06] <Tabou> Queenslayer, for install ubuntu, I boot with a usb stick
[14:07] <Queenslayer> Tabou, that guide should work
[14:07] <huesaurus> mivi, yeah I moved to ubuntu after slackware for the ease of use, couldn't be bothered to configure every single thing
[14:07] <huesaurus> although I3 is pretty cool on ubuntu
[14:08] <TimPeoples> +1 for I3 :)
[14:08] <mivi> huesaurus: I couldn't use ubuntu earlier because of graphics card issues with amd card, wonder if its all sorted out in the newer versions
[14:08] <Tabou> Queenslayer, OK I try
[14:08] <Queenslayer> Tabou, good luck. Hope you fix it
[14:10] <mivi> MonkeyDust: Does the wifi-hotspot work in 16.04?
[14:14] <MonkeyDust> mivi  i use wifi as we speak
[14:14] <MonkeyDust> mivi  atheros
[14:15] <mivi> MonkeyDust: Did you create it from network manager or some other tools like create_ap?
[14:15] <MonkeyDust> mivi  detected the signal out of the box, i used nmtui to connect
[14:15] <Carl__> guy why can I not connect to freenode servers using xchat? im currently on here using a browser
[14:16] <EriC^> Carl__: try a different port
[14:16] <MonkeyDust> Carl__  try hexchat instead
[14:16] <Carl__> im ussing 6667
[14:16] <EriC^> try 8001
[14:17] <mivi> MonkeyDust: great! upgrading now will try and ping you if I face any issues. Thanks :)
[14:17] <Carl__> still nothing
[14:17] <Carl__> its not because my ip is all rdy here?
[14:17] <EriC^> Carl__: no
[14:17] <EriC^> what does it say?
[14:17] <Carl__> Looking up freenode.net * Connecting to freenode.net (104.24.24.39) port 8001...
[14:18] <Carl__> and just like its searching
[14:18] <Carl__> via the browser i connect in under 5 seconds
[14:19] <EriC^> try irc.freenode.net 8001
[14:19] <Carl__> done it was the irc.****.**
[14:20] <Frag-O-Byte> This is a test by Carl
[14:20] <Carl__> yup all good ty
[14:20] <EriC^> np
[14:21] <Frag-O-Byte> EriC^ do you know how i can upgrade from 14.04 to 16.04 will it ruin my system?
[14:21] <MonkeyDust> Frag-O-Byte  as of july, you can upgrade directly LTS > LTS
[14:22] <EriC^> you could fresh install then copy your stuff back and installed programs
[14:22] <Frag-O-Byte> MonkeyDust is that via the update's in system settings?
[14:23] <Frag-O-Byte> Or is it only via a fresh install from a disk/usb ect?
[14:24] <MonkeyDust> Frag-O-Byte  yes, you can choose to either upgrade or to fresh install
[14:24] <rafaela> hello
[14:24] <MonkeyDust> Frag-O-Byte  i prefer fresh install
[14:25] <rafaela> hello
[14:25] <rafaela> i need help
[14:25] <rafaela> about ubuntu mate
[14:25] <rafaela> you can help me
[14:25] <rafaela> ?
[14:25] <Queenslayer> rafaela, you made that sound so Yorkshire
[14:26] <Frag-O-Byte> MonkeyDust do you know how I can save my e-mails if I do a fresh install? I use Thunderbird
[14:26] <rafaela> what?
[14:27] <MonkeyDust> Frag-O-Byte  yes, a backup of your /home will save your emails too
[14:28] <rafaela> my sound doesn't executing
[14:28] <rafaela> in my panel
[14:28] <rafaela> ????
[14:30] <Frag-O-Byte> MonkeyDust,  thank you
[14:30] <nikitex> hai?
[14:33] <Tabou_> I don't manage to boot with the queenslayer's solution
[14:33] <parkfae> Hello, everyone! I'm a brand new ubuntu user - I just built a desktop computer for the first time and I'm trying to install ubuntu on it, but I've been running into a lot of troubles with getting it to install and boot from the hard drive. Can anyone help me out? I can provide as much info as possible, so feel free to ask.
[14:34] <Tabou_> Does anyone have an idea of solution for my problem? (my macbook boot into ubuntu only if I plug the ubuntu usb drive
[14:34] <Tabou_> ?
[14:35] <Frag-O-Byte> parkfae,  what problems you having? it wont install or load from the media your using?
[14:36] <Frag-O-Byte> By media I mean, CD, DVD, USB Stick, ect..
[14:37] <parkfae> well, i thought i installed it properly to the hard drive, but when i then tried booting it from there, I got a black screen with a command prompt. I'd have to try getting back to it again because I don't remember what it says.
[14:37] <parkfae> For a while it was booting fine from the USB tho
[14:37] <MonkeyDust> !nomodeset | parkfae
[14:37] <Frag-O-Byte> ^^
[14:38] <parkfae> lemme give that a read and see if it helps out at all. looks promising tho. thanks! (i'll be back if i have more problems)
[14:40] <daniele_> Hello everyone! :)
[14:40] <daniele_> Someone can help me with a problem with suspend on my PC?
[14:41] <robotti^> hello
[14:41] <robotti^> how to setup sound?
[14:42] <robotti^> pulseaudio only shows integrated card, but not HDMI-output on GPU-card.
[14:43] <robotti^> alsamixer does show it, but I do not know how set up.
[14:43] <|{Ost`Age}|> robotti^: you want audio from hmdi?
[14:44] <robotti^> |{Ost`Age}|: Yes! My computer is connected to TV
[14:44] <robotti^> and tv is connected to amplifier
[14:44] <|{Ost`Age}|> did you install the gpu driver?
[14:44] <daniele_> My pc doesn't wake up from standby. I'm using bumblebee with setup
[14:44] <robotti^> |{Ost`Age}|: yes
[14:44] <akik> robotti^: try installing pavucontrol and see if you can activate the hdmi output there
[14:44] <|{Ost`Age}|> what gpu do you have?
[14:45] <robotti^> akik: I did try it, but I could not find there?
[14:45] <robotti^> akik: this system drive were before in other computer
[14:45] <robotti^> hardware is changed:)
[14:45] <daniele_> GT 820M
[14:47] <michael33> trying to install a package but it giving me errors because its using python2 instead of 3, is there some easy way to fix this?
[14:47] <michael33> i tried pip3 install but that one also giving me errors
[14:47] <robotti^> akik: should I create new user?
[14:47] <robotti^> or destroy profile-settings?
[14:47] <|{Ost`Age}|> did you install the driver from software center under edit > software sources > additional drivers (recommended) ?
[14:48] <akik> robotti^: do you mean that you can not see the hdmi output in pavucontrol?
[14:48] <daniele_> Sorry I was disconnected xD
[14:48] <robotti^> akik: yes
[14:49] <robotti^> akik: I can see it in alsamixer
[14:52] <robotti^> akik: so! what I should do?
[14:54] <robotti^> akik: should I make new .asoundrc?
[14:56] <robotti^> akik: aplay -D plughw:2,3 /usr/share/sounds/alsa/Front_Right.wav
[14:57] <robotti^> using that command I can output sound:)
[14:57] <akik> robotti^: do you have a alsa config file in either /etc of in $HOME ?
[14:58] <BluesKaj> robotti^, have you considered connectinf pc soundcard to the amplifier ?
[14:58] <Archeus_> what r the requirements to have dual boot system with windows 7 ?
[14:59] <MonkeyDust> !requirements | Archeus_
[15:00] <BluesKaj> !dual boot
[15:00] <Archeus_> hmm
[15:00] <Archeus_> i hve all the requirements except CD
[15:01] <Archeus_> though i hve windows 7 .iso file
[15:01] <MonkeyDust> Archeus_  can't help with win7, but for ubuntu you can also use a usb stick
[15:01] <BluesKaj> then install windows first, then ubuntu
[15:02] <Archeus_> w8 a min
[15:02] <Archeus_> to hve dual boot system i will hve to uninstall this ?
[15:02] <MonkeyDust> uninstall what?
[15:02] <BluesKaj> no
[15:03] <BluesKaj> you might need to run boot repair to fix the bootloader after installing windows
[15:03] <Archeus_> my 14.04 ubunut
[15:03] <Archeus_> ubuntu *
[15:04] <MonkeyDust> Archeus_  windows will overwrite grub, so you'll have to repair that
[15:04] <Archeus_> oh
[15:04] <Archeus_> with a live usb stick ?
[15:04] <parkfae> hey all... having more problems. i can't get ubuntu to boot at all now, even from the usb. this is what comes up: error: file '/grub/i386-pc/normal.mod' not found. grub rescue>
[15:04] <Archeus_> btw can i create tht or will hve to buy it ?
[15:05] <MonkeyDust> Archeus_  so you have ubuntu installed and now want to add windows?
[15:05] <Archeus_> yes
[15:05] <Archeus_> exactly
[15:05] <Archeus_> btw windows 7 to be precise
[15:06] <Archeus_> i cant play games in this OS
[15:06] <BluesKaj> Archeus_, uefi or bios ?
[15:06] <Archeus_> wht ?
[15:06] <Archeus_> if its a method then i dont know but
[15:06] <xangua> Depends what games you want to play
[15:06] <robotti^> BluesKaj: no
[15:06] <Archeus_> if u r asking me tht if i hve something named bios
[15:06] <Archeus_> then yes i do hve it
[15:06] <Archeus_> it comes up when i start my pc
[15:07] <BluesKaj> wimdows 8 , then it's probly uefi
[15:07] <robotti^> BluesKaj: no, because amplifies mostly dont work:)
[15:07] <robotti^> BluesKaj: so I firstly output to tv
[15:07] <robotti^> amplifier
[15:08] <Archeus_> btw xangua im planning to install DC universe , PS2 , Savage XR nd wht not
[15:08] <BluesKaj> robotti^, which output do  you use to the tv, hdmi, digital or analog?
[15:08] <robotti^> BluesKaj: HDMI
[15:09] <robotti^> BluesKaj: How I can reconfigure pulseaudio? or system?
[15:09] <robotti^> so it could use hdmi?
[15:09] <Tegu> try pavucontrol? not sure
[15:09] <Umeaboy> robotti^, Check the sound settings.
[15:09] <robotti^> Umeaboy: alsamixer?
[15:09] <Umeaboy> Yeah.
[15:10] <robotti^> pavucontrol does not see HDMI output, but alsamixer does:)
[15:10] <BluesKaj> robotti^, check alsamixer and disable autonute, make sure pcm and spdif are enabled and unmuted, (MM) means moted , (00) means unmuted
[15:10] <Umeaboy> robotti^: You have an Intel HDA card right?
[15:11] <semitones_rex> Hello #ubuntu. Question about rolling back updates. Something in the most recent upgrade I did seems to cause visual tears on the screen. Little flashes of wrong pixels. The weird thing is when I tested 16.04, I got similar visual tears. So I'm thinking it's related to upgraded software. Can I try to troubleshoot by finding out what packages I upgraded last time, and roll them back? IS THAT EVEN POSSIBLE?! Thanks, semitones.
[15:12] <parkfae> hey all... having more problems. i can't get ubuntu to boot at all now, even from the usb. this is what comes up: error: file '/grub/i386-pc/normal.mod' not found. grub rescue>
[15:12] <BluesKaj> robotti^,and if you have intel hda the pulseaudio can be purged if you just iuse one audio source at a time
[15:12] <EriC^> parkfae: what happens when you try to boot it without the usb?
[15:12] <parkfae> same thing
[15:12] <Umeaboy> robotti^: http://www.alsa-project.org/main/index.php/Help_To_Debug_Intel_HDA
[15:12] <robotti^> BluesKaj: I will use soundcard input also
[15:13] <robotti^> I just want to know how to reconfigure pulseaudio?
[15:13] <parkfae> EriC^ same results
[15:13] <EriC^> parkfae: ok, in grub rescue type ls
[15:13] <EriC^> parkfae: is the usb first in the boot order?
[15:13] <parkfae> yes
[15:13] <BluesKaj> robotti^, which audio chip is listed in alsamixer top left?
[15:14] <robotti^> HDA Intel PCH
[15:15] <parkfae> EriC^: okay, so (hd0) (hd0,msdos5) (hd0,mdos1) is what came up
[15:15] <EriC^> parkfae: ok type ls (hd0,msdos1)/
[15:15] <snckrs> Hey folks
[15:15] <BluesKaj> robotti^, to reconfigure pulseaudio you need to make sure your spdif and pcm are enabled in alsamixer as i mentioned earlier, the check the pavucontrol output
[15:16] <parkfae> EriC^: Filesystem is ext2
[15:16] <EriC^> ok
[15:16] <robotti^> BluesKaj: what you mean?
[15:16] <EriC^> parkfae: try configfile (hd0,msdos1)/grub/grub.cfg
[15:16] <BluesKaj> robotti^, do you have pavucontrol installed ?
[15:16] <robotti^> yes
[15:17] <robotti^> BluesKaj: and it is open:)
[15:17] <parkfae> it didn't like that command
[15:17] <BluesKaj> then check it's audio output settings and set for hdmi or which ever output you plan to use
[15:18] <robotti^> BluesKaj: problem is it does not found HDMI-output:)
[15:18] <EriC^> parkfae: ok, try set prefix=(hd0,msdos1)/grub
[15:18] <EriC^> then type insmod normal
[15:18] <robotti^> BluesKaj: that why I am asking how I can configure it?:)
[15:18] <robotti^> it cannot see HDMI-output
[15:18] <BluesKaj> robotti^, that's because your digital signal/pcm spdif might be turned off
[15:19] <BluesKaj> in alsamixer , robotti^
[15:19] <robotti^> so
[15:19] <robotti^> what I must do?
[15:19] <parkfae> EriC^, it didn't say anything back to me, but it didn't say unknown command either
[15:19] <BluesKaj> turn the pcm up and spdif on, robotti^
[15:19] <EriC^> did you try insmod normal?
[15:19] <parkfae> EriC^, i'm sorry, i don't know what that means
[15:19] <robotti^> BluesKaj: I have already did that
[15:20] <EriC^> parkfae: it's a command
[15:20] <semitones_rex> Could you all take a look at this: and tell me which of these automatic updates most likely is giving me all these weird graphics (kernel?) problems? http://paste.ubuntu.com/16605039/
[15:20] <robotti^> it did not have any effect
[15:20] <parkfae> EriC^, i haven't seen it anywhere yet, so i have to assume i haven't
[15:20] <robotti^> BluesKaj: i can output using aplay, so it is not about mute
[15:21] <EriC^> parkfae: try insmod normal
[15:21] <BluesKaj> robotti^, check alsamixer again, then run alsactl store in the terminal to save your settings , mthen try a relogin
[15:21] <Umeaboy> semitones_rex: Why is your kernel so old?
[15:21] <semitones_rex> Umeaboy, LTS?
[15:21] <robotti^> BluesKaj: alsactl store?
[15:21] <BluesKaj> yes with sudo
[15:21] <Umeaboy> Latest official kernel for Ubuntu is 4.4.0-22-generic I think.
[15:21] <parkfae> EriC^, it says it's still not found
[15:22] <semitones_rex> Umeaboy, I am on 14.04 LTS
[15:22] <EriC^> parkfae: ok, try ls (hd0,msdos1)/grub/
[15:22] <EriC^> parkfae: can you make another live usb?
[15:22] <Umeaboy> OK. Can't you upgrade?
[15:22] <Umeaboy> 16.04 LTS have been released.
[15:23] <somsip> !ltsupgrade | Umeaboy
[15:23] <parkfae> EriC^, uhhhh it said file '/grub/' not found
[15:23] <robotti^> BluesKaj: I did
[15:23] <Umeaboy> Hmmmmmmmmm. OK.
[15:23] <EriC^> parkfae: try ls (hd0,msdos1)/
[15:23] <Tegu> of course you can reinstall cleanly. or maye there is another trick to avoid reinstalling
[15:23] <parkfae> EriC^, and yeah, i can make a new one... i've used a few different programs to try to make one since they all seem to not work somehow...
[15:24] <parkfae> EriC^, and it's saying filesystem is ext2 again
[15:24] <EriC^> parkfae: did you disable fastboot and secureboot?
[15:24] <BluesKaj> robotti^, ok what does pavucontrol show in the output dropdown?
[15:24] <parkfae> EriC^, no, but i'm also not sure how to do that
[15:25] <Umeaboy> parkfae: In your BIOS settings.
[15:25] <EriC^> parkfae: ok, can you enter the bios boot options and take a screenshot?
[15:25] <parkfae> EriC^, I'll try!
[15:25] <semitones_rex> Umeaboy, 16.04 had the same visual tears / graphics problems, etc., that my system now has after my most recent automatic update
[15:25] <parkfae> EriC^, I'm trying to install it on my new desktop and seeking help for it on my laptop, so i might have to get creative :P
[15:25] <Hydr0p0nX> I swapped video cards and now my hdmi audio out is a lot lower, is there anyway I can increase it other than turning up my receiver ?
[15:25] <Umeaboy> Usually it's by pressing F12 when screen starts showing output.
[15:26] <Slaizer> Hi, I need a USB image creator software, Make Startup Disk doesn't work.
[15:26] <robotti^> BluesKaj: same thing before
[15:26] <Umeaboy> Slaizer: Why not use dd in Terminal?
[15:26] <pauljw> semitones_rex, don't upgrade to 16.04 from 14.04, it's not ready for that yet.
[15:26] <semitones_rex> Umeaboy, that's why i'm trying to undo the update for whichever package is offending, or otherwise track downt he problems
[15:26] <parkfae> CMOS is different than BIOS, right?
[15:26] <BluesKaj> robotti^, what did pavucontrol show before ?
[15:26] <EriC^> parkfae: use your phone, does the usb boot on the desktop?
[15:26] <Umeaboy> CMOS is the older BIOS.
[15:27] <Habbie> Umeaboy, that's not accurate
[15:27] <semitones_rex> pauljw, I was testing from the live cd, and considering a fresh install. However I'm getting lots of gfx/kernel problems that I don't understand.
[15:27] <Slaizer> Umeaboy, how does the procedure go?
[15:27] <Habbie> parkfae, in this context, CMOS is generally the settings storage for your BIOS
[15:27] <parkfae> thanks, habbie!
[15:27] <Jordan_U> parkfae: How many drives do you have in this machine?
[15:27] <semitones_rex> I would like to report a bug/regression, but I don't know which package this could be.
[15:28] <parkfae> Jordan_U, should just be my hard drive and the USB when it's plugged in
[15:28] <robotti^> BluesKaj: it does show analog output, digital stereo, analog input, analog
[15:29] <LargePrime> is there a ubuntu server channel?  or is this the right place?
[15:29] <robotti^> BluesKaj: basically outputs and inputs for intel HDA
[15:29] <Umeaboy> Slaizer: Format your drive as FAT32, then check with mount command how it's mounted and then type sudo dd if=/path/to/your/iso of=/dev/sdX where X is to be changed into the drive letter. Also add bs=4M && sync in the end of that command.
[15:29] <squinty> LargePrime, #ubuntu-server
[15:30] <LargePrime> thanks squinty
[15:30] <Umeaboy> So the full command would look like this: sudo dd if=/path/to/my/iso of=/dev/sdb bs=4M && sync
[15:30] <semitones_rex> Umeaboy, this is what my computer looks like http://imgur.com/3hDA5AL
[15:30] <Umeaboy> Ooooooooooooooooooouch.
[15:30] <Slaizer> Umeaboy, this page will do: http://askubuntu.com/questions/372607/how-to-create-a-bootable-ubuntu-usb-flash-drive-from-terminal?
[15:30] <semitones_rex> Umeaboy, So I'm trying to roll back whatever package caused things to be like that
[15:30] <robotti^> BluesKaj: maybe I just should edit /etc/asound.conf?
[15:30] <Umeaboy> Is it showing the same behaviour in the installation or in the screen fine then?
[15:31] <pauljw> semitones_rex, i can't help you with your bug issue, but i don't recommend 16.04 yet.  if you recently updated the 14.04 kernel, you might try going to the previously working one and see if the tearing goes away.  i think you hold shift down during boot to reach the grub screen that will allow you to do that.  someone with more experience will hopefully correct me if i'm wrong on that.
[15:31] <Jordan_U> parkfae: Can you boot from that USB drive using a different machine? It may need to be re-prepared for booting if Ubuntu's installer replaced its bootloader (which it shouldn't have done).
[15:31] <Umeaboy> Slaizer: If you know the right mount path to your drive yes.
[15:31] <semitones_rex> Umeaboy, It shows this behavior on the 16.04 live cd "try ubuntu" and on my current 14.04 LTS installation. As far as I know, my windows partition is not affected.
[15:32] <semitones_rex> pauljw, That is a good idea -- that could be the first thing I try - going back to the previous kernel
[15:32] <parkfae> Jordan_U, I can try... lemme brb and i'll report the results as best i can
[15:32] <BluesKaj> robotti^, I have intel-hda too, but I don't use pulseaudio and pavucontrol, it's not necessary if you use only one souirce at a time. That's how i solve my audio output problem
[15:32] <Umeaboy> semitones_rex: Can you try to boot a gParted Live iso to check that as well?
[15:32] <robotti^> BluesKaj: I am using multiple
[15:32] <semitones_rex> Umeaboy, I could do that. So, 1. test the older kernel. 2. Test a gparted live iso?
[15:33] <Umeaboy> semitones_rex: Yes.
[15:34] <Umeaboy> Or you could go to the extreme and test unstable testing versions of the latest kernel.
[15:34] <Umeaboy> From the ppa of the Kernel Team.
[15:34] <BluesKaj> robotti^, multiple sources or multiple outputs from a single source?
[15:35] <semitones_rex> Umeaboy, I'm more an LTS user than a unstable testing user :P, but I would consider it if this were a newer computer. It is from 2007
[15:35] <akik> i installed ubuntu-desktop after installing kubuntu. now unity works but the "system tray" is not visible. how can i get it back?
[15:35] <Umeaboy> akik: Resolution to big?
[15:35] <xangua> akik: there's no "system tray" in unity
[15:36] <pauljw> semitones_rex, yeah, i would stay away from the unstable stuff.
[15:36] <akik> xangua: really? how do i set network settings and audio volume?
[15:36] <MonkeyDust> akik  in unity, there's a launch bar on the left
[15:36] <xangua> akik: those are called "indicators"
[15:37] <semitones_rex> pauljw, agreed :)
[15:37] <akik> so i need to always go through the system settings app?
[15:37] <Umeaboy> Well, if gParted doesn't show the same behaviour I'd still test the unstable kernel.
[15:37] <semitones_rex> Umeaboy, does gparted live use a newer kernel? (i'm thinking the bug may show up in combination with the display driver ubuntu chooses)
[15:37] <xangua> akik: if by system tray you mean you expect to see a specific KDE or another program  icon there?
[15:38] <Umeaboy> semitones_rex: Could be.
[15:38] <Umeaboy> What card do you have in it?
[15:38] <akik> xangua: i was expecting to see volume control and network manager applet there. i'm in unity now
[15:38] <parkfae_> Okay, chatting from my phone (won't be able to read responses while typing thanks to mobile layout) - I'm in my laptop's bios (I think), trying to get it to boot from the USB
[15:38] <Umeaboy> akik: Aaaaah, the old KDE4 desktop environment you mean?
[15:39] <akik> Umeaboy: no, i'm in unity now
[15:39] <Slaizer> Umeaboy, I tried this command and it did not function: sudo dd if=/home/lubuntu/Downloads/Windows 10 Pro VL X64 v1511 MULTi-7 April 2016 {Gen2} of=/dev/sdb bs=4M && sync. What is wrong?
[15:39] <xangua> akik: what exactly did you install?
[15:39] <Umeaboy> akik: Yeah, but you were expecting to see the KDE4 desktop, right?
[15:39] <akik> xangua: ubuntu-desktop and unity and compizconfig-settings-manager
[15:39] <robotti^> BluesKaj: I need input from soundcard and to output to HDMI
[15:40] <akik> Umeaboy: no, i was expecting to see the "system tray" equivalent of unity
[15:40] <parkfae_> Oh hey it might be working... I should select "try Ubuntu without installing", yes? (My laptop is a piece of shit)
[15:40] <raymod2> Is there a way to modify the default file association for a specific mime type in a .deb package?  I tried using 'xdg-mime default ...' in the postinst script and that works when the user installs using 'dpkg -i foo.deb' but it doesn't work when the user installs through the Ubuntu Software Center.
[15:40] <Umeaboy> Slaizer: I don't see an .iso in the end at Windows 10 Pro VL X64 v1511 MULTi-7 April 2016 {Gen2}
[15:40] <EriC^> parkfae_: yes
[15:40] <xangua> akik: you'll need to find whatever programs to support indicator or install the full ubuntu-desktop metapackage
[15:40] <akik> xangua: i installed ubuntu-desktop
[15:41] <xangua> Mmmm
[15:41] <EriC^> akik: try sudo apt-get install ubuntu-desktop^
[15:41] <BluesKaj> robotti^, yes, pcm and spdif provide the digital signal to your graphics card hdmi output
[15:41] <parkfae_> Alright. I got the purple load screen... so far so good
[15:41] <B0g4r7_> Slaizer, you need to enclose the filename in quotes when it contains spaces like that, or otherwise escape the spaces.
[15:41] <parkfae_> Okay, it's up and going
[15:42] <BluesKaj> robotti^, also to the digital output of your soundcard
[15:42] <akik> EriC^: that only tells me to install pinentry-curses and pinentry-doc
[15:42] <robotti^> BluesKaj: Analog source to HDMI output?
[15:42] <EriC^> akik: did you try restarting?
[15:42] <robotti^> and I also use pulseaudio network-server
[15:43] <Slaizer> B0g4r7_, tried this: sudo dd if=/home/lubuntu/Downloads/Windows 10 Pro VL X64 v1511 MULTi-7 April 2016 {Gen2}/W10PRO.VLX64.MULTi7.Apr2016.iso of=/dev/sdb bs=4M && sync
[15:43] <Slaizer> dd: unrecognized operand ‘10’
[15:43] <Slaizer> Try 'dd --help' for more information.
[15:43] <BluesKaj> robotti^, what analog source , like microphone ?
[15:43] <parkfae_> So it seems like the live USB is working on my laptop
[15:43] <Umeaboy> Slaizer: PM please.
[15:43] <EriC^> parkfae_: ok, type sudo parted -l | nc termbin.com 9999
[15:43] <B0g4r7_> Slaizer, Indeed.  I recommend you try my suggestion.
[15:43] <semitones_rex> Umeaboy, how do I find out the card again? I believe it's a geforce 300 something
[15:43] <parkfae_> In the terminal?
[15:44] <Slaizer> B0g4r7_, will do so
[15:44] <EriC^> Slaizer: you can't dd a windows iso i think
[15:44] <semitones_rex> Umeaboy, 'about this computer' says graphics Gallium 0.4 on NVA3 but I have no idea what that means
[15:44] <EriC^> parkfae_: yes
[15:44] <robotti^> BluesKaj: Like MT-32
[15:44] <akik> EriC^: i rebooted but the indicators are still missing
[15:45] <B0g4r7_> IDK..."iso" files were meant to be written onto CD-ROMs.  That's probably not what he's doing.
[15:45] <Jordan_U> parkfae_: Is the laptop the machine that had a problem booting after installing Ubuntu?
[15:45] <robotti^> BluesKaj: I am using it when playing old adventure games and dos games:)
[15:45] <dos> ser
[15:45] <robotti^> I output midi using usb and it outputs analog sound back my soundcard
[15:45] <robotti^> then I output it using HDMI
[15:45] <xangua> akik: you can try reset unity ubuntuhandbook.org/index.php/2014/04/reset-unity-and-compiz-settings-in-ubuntu-14-04
[15:46] <semitones_rex> Umeaboy, 'Additional Drivers' says Nvidia GT215 (GeForce GT 240)
[15:46] <EriC^> ^good idea, see if it does the same in the guest account akik
[15:46] <parkfae_> Eric^ temporary failure in name resolution
[15:46] <Jordan_U> !winusb | Umeaboy
[15:46] <EriC^> parkfae_: do you have internet on the laptop?
[15:47] <parkfae_> ... yes, but it didn't autoconnect. Lemme try again
[15:47] <thinky> hi there
[15:48] <thinky> is it possible to turn off animations (fade effects) when i minimize or maximize menus/windows on ubuntu 16.04?
[15:48] <ShekharReddy> how to remove apache2 completely along with all the relevant file(.conf and var/www/ --files--) and reinstall
[15:48] <parkfae_> termbin.com/d3lv
[15:49] <Jordan_U> parkfae_: Ok, so we know that the USB drive is still bootable (though it may be bootable via UEFI but not via BIOS). Now we need to get it to boot your Desktop again.
[15:49] <ShekharReddy> i guess there will be some issues  after  reinstalling
[15:49] <BluesKaj> robotti^, that's an unfamiar device to me, does pavucontrol see the midi signal or has it in the past /
[15:49] <BluesKaj> ?
[15:50] <ShekharReddy> how to remove apache2 completely along with all the relevant file(.conf and var/www/ --files--) and reinstall
[15:50] <parkfae_> Jordan_U, could I have accidentally done something to the desktop to make it fuck up like that?
[15:50] <ShekharReddy> i guess there will be some issues  after  reinstalling
[15:50] <parkfae_> Jordan_U, regardless, is there a specific next step?
[15:51] <EriC^> parkfae_: is this the laptop of desktop?
[15:51] <EriC^> *or
[15:51] <parkfae_> Eric^, I booted unbuntu on the laptop
[15:51] <Jordan_U> parkfae_: While you're still booted into your laptop, please check if it's booted via BIOS or via UEFI.
[15:51] <Umeaboy> Jordan_U: WinUSB is broken.
[15:51] <parkfae_> Jordan_U, can you tell me how to do that?
[15:51] <EriC^> parkfae_: oh, the laptop doesn't seem to have ubuntu installed
[15:52] <parkfae_> Eric^, yeah, I still just have windows on my laptop
[15:52] <Jordan_U> parkfae_: [ -d /sys/firmware/efi ] && echo UEFI || echo BIOS
[15:53] <robotti^> BluesKaj: It does not matter
[15:53] <Jordan_U> EriC^: I asked parkfae_ to test the LiveUSB on another machine to confirm that the liveUSB is good (since it's not booting on the desktop at the moment either).
[15:53] <parkfae_> Jordan_U bash: [: missing ']'
[15:54] <robotti^> BluesKaj: I just need hdmi output working using pulseaudio
[15:54] <robotti^> of course I could reinstall system
[15:54] <Jordan_U> parkfae_: Spaces are meaningful :)
[15:54] <EriC^> Jordan_U: oh ok
[15:54] <parkfae_> I'm sorry guys, I'm really not tech savvy :<
[15:55] <MonkeyDust> parkfae_  you did build your own pc, no?
[15:55] <parkfae_> Also, I put in a space?? I typed [ -d
[15:55] <ShekharReddy> how to remove apache2 completely along with all the relevant file(.conf and var/www/ --files--) and reinstall. i guess there will be some issues  after  reinstalling
[15:56] <Junka> I cant convert mp3 audio with soundconverter
[15:56] <robotti^> BluesKaj: http://utdream.org/post.cfm/resetting-pulseaudio-on-ubuntu-13-04-new-sound-card
[15:56] <parkfae_> MonkeyDust, yes, wit a great amount of anxiety and uncertainty...
[15:56] <MonkeyDust> Junka  try winff
[15:56] <robotti^> BluesKaj: that might solve my problem
[15:56] <thinky> is there any option to turn off fade effect in ubuntu 16.04?
[15:56] <Junka> MonkeyDust: oh thanks
[15:57] <BluesKaj> robotti^, pastebin your alsamixer in  imgur.com
[15:57] <est> I am getting kernel panics, how can i debug them?
[15:57] <xangua> thinky: fade window effect? Launched fade? Either was try unity-tweak-tool
[15:57] <est> They are not 100% reproducible but they happen very often when I do video decoding
[15:57] <xangua> Either way
[15:57] <est> but often they also happen when I dont do video decoding at all
[15:57] <parkfae_> MonkeyDust, plus, putting it together is way different than trying to wrangle the software
[15:57] <thinky> xangua: yes windows effect
[15:58] <thinky> is there a way to turn off without tweak tool?
[15:58] <EriC^> parkfae_: which software did you use to make the live usb?
[15:58] <raymod2> Does anyone here have any experience making .deb packages?
[15:58] <Umeaboy> est: What's the message?
[15:59] <MonkeyDust> raymod2  ask your real question
[15:59] <Umeaboy> Check in journalctl -xe
[15:59] <xangua> thinky: install compiz settings manager
[15:59] <Habbie> raymod2, i've done it in the past, why?
[15:59] <parkfae_> EriC^ I tried a few different ones... universal USB installer made the live USB I'm currently using
[15:59] <semitones> Umeaboy: gparted CD takes a long time to boot (can't find cpu0, buffer io error on device sr0) but gets there
[15:59] <EriC^> parkfae_: did you try linux live usb creator?
[15:59] <raymod2> MonkeyDust, Habbie: I want to change the default file assocation for a specific mime type during package installation but I can't figure out how to do it.
[15:59] <Umeaboy> semitones: I know.
[16:00] <Umeaboy> But it's really recommended to burn the iso to a USB drive.
[16:00] <MonkeyDust> raymod2  better ask in #ubuntu-app-devel
[16:00] <thinky> ok i will try
[16:01] <parkfae_> Eric^, is that downloadable at linuxliveusb.com?
[16:01] <raymod2> Either system wide or just for the user who installed the package is fine.  But since pacakge installation runs as root I don't seem to have access to the user who installed it.
[16:01] <semitones> Umeaboy: why is that? I don't have many usbs
[16:01] <Jordan_U> parkfae_: [ -d /sys/firmware/efi ] && echo UEFI || echo BIOS
[16:01] <EriC^> parkfae_: yes
[16:01] <Seveas> raymod2: there's no such thing as "default file association". There's "here's what gnome will execute for such a thing" and probably KDE has its own thing as well.
[16:02] <parkfae_> EriC^, Rufus was the other one I tried. This one I haven't yet.
[16:02] <Jordan_U> parkfae_: Copy and paste it if needed, but run exactly that and it will work. The space you forgot was between "efi" and "]".
[16:02] <EriC^> parkfae_: give it a shot, it's a good one
[16:02] <raymod2> Seveas - sure there is.  I can do it as a user via 'xdg-mime default foo.desktop text/csv'.
[16:02] <Umeaboy> semitones: Well, I experience less to none errors with USB and the USB can be overwritten again if something goes wrong
[16:02] <Seveas> raymod2: yes, that's "what the current user will execute"
[16:03] <Seveas> raymod2: you may have some luck sticking something in /usr/share/applications
[16:03] <raymod2> Seveas - there is also a system-wide default file association but I haven't figured out yet where it is stored.
[16:03] <Seveas> look at gimp.desktop in that dir for example.
[16:03] <robotti^> BluesKaj: imgur.com?
[16:03] <parkfae_> Jordan_U, it said UEFI
[16:03] <Seveas> raymod2: but in those .desktop files you can only say "I can handle this mimetype", not "I want to be default for this mimetype"
[16:04] <parkfae_> EriC^, so just format the USB and try with that program instead?
[16:04] <robotti^> BluesKaj: I am trying reinstalling alsa and pulseaudio
[16:04] <EriC^> parkfae_: yeah
[16:04] <robotti^> purge and reinstall:)
[16:04] <raymod2> Seveas - yes, I already have it working where the user can right-click the file and my app appears in the "open with" list
[16:04] <Jordan_U> parkfae_: Then the USB drive may still be broken when it comes to BIOS based booting.
[16:04] <semitones> Umeaboy: true. Ok booting from previous kernel now: 3.13
[16:04] <BluesKaj> robotti^, ok good luck
[16:05] <raymod2> On a related note is there a way to add my app to the user's favorites (in the left side bar)?
[16:05] <EriC^> parkfae_: try to enable uefi and boot the live usb on the broken laptop
[16:05] <raymod2> Like on Windows when you install an application and it places a link on the user's desktop...
[16:05] <Jordan_U> parkfae_: So definitely try re-preparing the USB drive.
[16:06] <MonkeyDust> raymod2  yes, navigate to /usr/share/applications/ ... drag the icon of choice to the launchbar
[16:06] <Guest30702> can it be done without creating link explicilty
[16:06] <est> Umeaboy, I dont find any "panic" in journalctl -xe
[16:06] <Seveas> raymod2: no. Package installs are not supposed/allowed to do anything in /home
[16:06] <raymod2> MonkeyDust - I want to do this for the user when they install my .deb package.
[16:06] <Jordan_U> EriC^: It's parkfae_'s desktop that is currently not booting.
[16:06] <parkfae_> EriC^ Jordan_U I'm gonna redo the USB and be back for more instructions... BRB and thank you for everything so far!! I really appreciate how you break it all down so easy :')
[16:06] <est> Umeaboy, is it possible that it doesnt record it into the journalß
[16:06] <est> ?
[16:07] <Umeaboy> est: What is the message you see on the screen? Can you make a clear screenshot of it?
[16:07] <EriC^> Jordan_U: no i think he said his new desktop he wants to install it to, and he already has it on his laptop but it gives a grub rescue>
[16:07] <est> Umeaboy, I dont see any message on the screen at all
[16:07] <est> I just see a freeze
[16:07] <est> mouse doesnt move
[16:07] <Umeaboy> est: PM.
[16:08] <raymod2> Seveas - how are you supposed to modify /home/user if not in a package script?
[16:08] <Guest30702> squit
[16:08] <Guest30702> quit
[16:08] <MonkeyDust> raymod2  that's more a dev channel, like #ubuntu-app-devel
[16:08] <Seveas> raymod2: you're supposed not to.
[16:08] <Troy^> Question about VPN'
[16:08] <MonkeyDust> raymod2  more for*
[16:09] <semitones> Umeaboy: hey, this kernel has no problems
[16:09] <raymod2> Seveas - so there is no equivalent to a Windows installer in Ubuntu?
[16:09] <Troy^> If i want my whole LAN to be on a VPN, can I just use a second NIC card in my Ubuntu Machine using VPN Client connected to a switch?
[16:10] <Seveas> raymod2: correct.
[16:10] <Seveas> .deb packages are far more constrained in what they can and cannot do. This is a good thing.
[16:11] <raymod2> Seveas, thanks.
[16:11] <semitones> What is the preferred way to specify to not use the latest kernel?
[16:11] <Umeaboy> semitones: Then I guess Ubuntu really have a problem. :)
[16:11] <Seveas> semitones: remove the package for the latest kernel
[16:12] <Umeaboy> semitones: Text based installation from the mini.iso?
[16:12] <Seveas> semitones: and file a bug
[16:12] <petitchou> I'm having trouble with the GUI program that installs programs. (I'm new to desktop Linux.)  I have no idea what's wrong with it but it won't complete an install and gave me a cryptic error dialog
[16:12] <ShekharReddy> how to remove apache2 completely along with all the relevant file(.conf and var/www/ --files--) and reinstall. i guess there will be some issues  after  reinstalling
[16:13] <ShekharReddy> i used sudo apt-get install apache2
[16:13] <petitchou> I can't remember the exact wording, but it just said to hit a button to report the problem and prompted me for my password.  And now it won't close.
[16:13] <ShekharReddy> while installing
[16:13] <MonkeyDust> petitchou  the error message may be the first step to a solution ... what does it say
[16:13] <EriC^> ShekharReddy: sudo apt-get purge apache2 , then delete the stuff in /var/www/html/*
[16:14] <petitchou> It just told me that there was a "system" error.  I hit the "report" button and nothing happened - no other details.  I wish I'd have written down the exact wording. :(
[16:14] <semitones> Seveas: thanks!
[16:14] <semitones> Seveas: by the way, do you still take the train in the morning?
[16:15] <Seveas> semitones: yes.
[16:15] <petitchou> The installer program is still open despite the fact that it installed the IRC client I'm talking to you on right now.  It won't close.
[16:16] <parkfae_> EriC^, is Linux live USB creator supposed to be compatible with 16.04?
[16:16] <semitones> Seveas: thanks for sharing the train song with me! (End of o4o)
[16:16] <MonkeyDust> petitchou  alt-f2 and then type xkill ... then click on the frozen windows
[16:16] <t00lman> petitchou, I'm guessing there's another dialog window hidden somewhere that's waiting for you to click a button
[16:16] <MonkeyDust> window*
[16:16] <t00lman> (or, the app *thinks* there is)
[16:17] <Jaga-Jaga> How can I disable my laptop's keyboard from waking up the computer from Suspend? (I want to use the power button only)
[16:17] <petitchou> Done.  Thank you!  That fixed that part of the problem :)
[16:17] <petitchou> t00lman: I'm pretty sure it was the latter ><  I have two monitors, though, which may be confusing things.
[16:18] <django_> is there a ubunut that is faster than xubuntu
[16:18] <MonkeyDust> django_  try lubuntu
[16:18] <django_> MonkeyDust, yeah its not that much faster lol
[16:18] <tgm4883> django_: *lighter weight, no faster
[16:19] <django_> also does ubuntu come with a C compiler?
[16:19] <mgor> django_, sudo apt install build-essential
[16:19] <ShekharReddy> there are some vhosts file in /var/www/* , i cant delete them manually EriC^
[16:19] <django_> mgor, to ru C cod?
[16:19] <django_> code*
[16:19] <pathworker> thats a knotty question , it depends as much on your hardware as it does the ubuntu virsion however   I stand to be corrected If I'm wrong.;-)
[16:19] <mgor> django_, not so often anymore
[16:20] <django_> what
[16:20] <django_> lol
[16:20] <B0g4r7_> django_, type 'cc' and see what happens.
[16:21] <django_> "fatal error no input files"
[16:21] <B0g4r7_> Sounds like it's installed then.
[16:21] <petitchou> also, I'm trying to install the steam launcher - do you have any idea how I might go about this?  I tried using the button at https://apps.ubuntu.com/cat/applications/steam-launcher/ and it complains about not being able to find it in the store
[16:21] <B0g4r7_> cc == C Compiler
[16:22] <django_> B0g4r7_, cool ty
[16:23] <parkfae_> EriC^ lluc says it finished creating the key, but I don't see any changes to my usb
[16:23] <petitchou> if I download the .deb file manually the installer pukes ><
[16:23] <tgm4883> petitchou: how? I installed it fine via dpkg
[16:24] <semitones_rex> Seveas, Umeaboy ok I think i know what happened, let me tell you a tale
[16:24] <petitchou> the same kind of problem I've been having - the installer hangs :(  I have no idea what's wrong with it.  I think t00lman was on to something earlier that it has a dialog up somewhere (or thinks it does) that I can't find
[16:25] <B0g4r7_> I'm running "steam client application".  IDK if that's the same thing, but it seemed to install fine.
[16:25] <Jordan_U> parkfae_: See if you can boot your Desktop from the USB drive now.
[16:25] <tgm4883> petitchou: you tried installing it with dpkg? Is this 16.04? Standard ubuntu or a flavor?
[16:25] <parkfae_> Jordan_U, aight trying now
[16:26] <B0g4r7_> Things "just hang" huh.  Are you sure your hard drive is good (no bad blocks)?
[16:26] <petitchou> not sure how to check the version but I downloaded it like two days ago - it's standard Ubuntu
[16:26] <tgm4883> petitchou: ok, and you're installing it via dpkg (terminal) or through the software center?
[16:26] <semitones_rex> Seveas, Umeaboy : I tried 16.04, but got that weird graphic tearing. I thought it might be a problem with the live cd, so I installed anyway to a spare partition. Now, I also have a separate /boot. I think what was happening was 16.04 changed grub in a way that it was booting 14.04 using the new kernel from 16.04 - when I booted from the list of old kernels, I saw 3.13 next to a 4.something.. That's why I was seeing the visual tearing on bo
[16:26] <semitones_rex> th.
[16:27] <petitchou> I tried using the software center and not dpkg, yes
[16:27] <petitchou> want me to try dpkg now?
[16:27] <B0g4r7_> That might give you some more feedback.
[16:27] <petitchou> okay, give me just a minute
[16:27] <tgm4883> petitchou: ok, so I'd try installing it from the terminal. "sudo dpkg -i <debfile>"
[16:28] <petitchou> k, one sec, I need to figure out where Firefox put it
[16:28] <Umeaboy> semitones_rex: Uhu. OK.
[16:28] <tgm4883> i'm pretty sure installing steam does pop up another dialog asking a question
[16:28] <B0g4r7_> ~/Downloads usually.
[16:28] <parkfae_> Jordan_U, we're back to the problem of entering rescue mode.
[16:29] <Jordan_U> parkfae_: When trying to boot the liveUSB from the Desktop machine?
[16:29] <semitones_rex> Seveas, so I can still file a bug with kernel 4.4 for having the graphics tearing right?
[16:29] <parkfae_> Jordan_U, my desktop is the one without windows or anything... I just built it yesterday
[16:29] <petitchou> Apparently it requires something called python-apt, which isn't installed
[16:30] <ricebean> My keyboard has become wonky. Sometimes it types one letter as intended, sometimes it types two, and if I hold down the backspace key, it's slower than usual. I have also tried it on another PC, this time running Arch Linux, but no luck, and using it on an Android tablet, which worked. What shall I do?
[16:30] <petitchou> I can throw the error into a pastebin if you like
[16:30] <B0g4r7_> petitchou, missing dependency.  I think you can just "apt-get -f install" to fix it.
[16:31] <B0g4r7_> with no other arguments
[16:31] <semitones_rex> /joining #ubuntu-bugs to ask them the best way to submit a bug
[16:31] <petitchou> doing this now, thank you
[16:31] <tgm4883> petitchou: if it needs that, just install it with apt
[16:31] <Jordan_U> parkfae_: And you're sure it's configured to boot from USB?
[16:31] <petitchou> Installing and working like a champ - thank you!
[16:32] <ricebean> I have tried everything to fix it, from cleaning the contacts, to changing the delay, to disassembling it and cleaning it.
[16:32] <Commodora> Hi
[16:32] <parkfae_> Jordan_U, yes, I double checked and everything. I don't think the live USB creation actually worked :/
[16:33] <petitchou> I am also having a weird minor issue with the volume display.  It pops up randomly and tells me the volume, like I hit a key on my keyboard.
[16:33] <petitchou> I have a positively ancient PS/2 IBM keyboard and I think it might be thinking I'm hitting some kind of volume button that I don't in fact have
[16:34] <semitones_rex> Hey can I break the rules about taking a poll real quick? I want to find out which has less problems: a live cd booted from a DVD, a USB, or from ISOboot.
[16:34] <tgm4883> no
[16:35] <parkfae_> Jordan_U, I should be able to see the files on my live usb, correct?
[16:35] <semitones_rex> fair enough :)
[16:35] <B0g4r7_> semitones, the one that works.  Each situation is different.
[16:36] <Umeaboy> semitones_rex: USB.
[16:36] <robotti^> BluesKaj: reinstalling pulseaudio and alsa did help:)
[16:36] <semitones_rex> B0g4r7_, assuming you're able to boot successfully into it, should they all work the same? I just don't like how long USB takes compared to the other two ways
[16:36] <robotti^> BluesKaj: it also installed much shit:)) like kde and xfce
[16:36] <robotti^> :D
[16:37] <meh> i have a small question
[16:37] <Umeaboy> semitones_rex: That differs on the speed of the USB drive and the USB port.
[16:37] <meh> how can i see the license of a deb package?
[16:37] <B0g4r7_> I find a USB drive to be a lot faster than optical, myself.  Again it depends.
[16:37] <Umeaboy> meh: Shoot!
[16:37] <meh> only de license
[16:37] <semitones_rex> I think my USB is just really janky
[16:37] <Umeaboy> dpkg -s packagename.
[16:37] <meh> thanks
[16:38] <semitones_rex> running from the USB is somewhat faster than running from cd, but making the USB takes forever. Doing ISOboot was really fast, but people warned me that it wasn't as reliable as USB, and I don't know why they said that
[16:38] <B0g4r7_> Heck, you could probably install from a pxeboot server if you were so inclined.
[16:38] <Umeaboy> Hmmmmmmmmmmmmmmm. I don't think it'll show up there, but there's some flag to dpkg to use.
[16:39] <B0g4r7_> I just keep some usb sticks around with different ubuntus on them.  No need to keep remaking them.
[16:39] <parkfae_> Jordan_U, no, the live usb definitely is working...
[16:39] <semitones_rex> B0g4r7_, can you make that from a raspberry pi? Do you know of any reasons why ISOboot would be unreliable? Because it seems like the most convenient and it's worked for me before (I just ran into a kernel bug)
[16:40] <petitchou> is there a way to rebind keys?  my keyboard lacks a windows key or anything that could be "super" - I'd like to use my right alt if I can
[16:40] <B0g4r7_> semitones, you could probably do it from a Pi.  I don't see why not.  I'm not familiar with isoboot myself.
[16:40] <Umeaboy> meh: I think you might have to ask the maker of that package or check inside its source package.
[16:41] <Umeaboy> The makefile should show the right license.
[16:41] <parkfae_> Jordan_U, someone (maybe you) said something about checking if my desktop is booting up in a certain mode, but I haven't been able to find that in its options on my own
[16:42] <meh> yes
[16:42] <django_> anyone know about VBOXES? i made a shared folder now how do i find it?
[16:43] <meh> and    i have avery small question "its my first useful package"   i created the packsage with a gpl2 software
[16:43] <meh> but ubuntu-software warnins "this software would have private parts"
[16:43] <meh> how can i   remove this warning?
[16:44] <LiverWurst> howdy
[16:45] <Commodora> Hi LiverWurst
[16:45] <petitchou> thanks again all
[16:46] <player0k> Hi to all
[16:46] <tgm4883> meh: screenshot?
[16:46] <player0k> can someone help me with a question: http://askubuntu.com/questions/775939/ubuntu-16-04-wallpaper-under-black-screen-after-login-unity-7-4-0 ?
[16:46] <Jordan_U> parkfae_: If your motherboard supports UEFI then that's what you should use, but if it's an older motherboard it may not and that's fine.
[16:47] <Devender> hello
[16:47] <player0k> http://askubuntu.com/questions/775939/ubuntu-16-04-wallpaper-under-black-screen-after-login-unity-7-4-0
[16:47] <parkfae_> Jordan_U, it should be new. Gigabyte 78LMT-7SB3
[16:47] <parkfae_> *USB3
[16:48] <Devender> there is any way to recover jpeg files
[16:48] <MonkeyDust> Devender  after deleting them?
[16:48] <parkfae_> I just don't understand why it was working before on my desktop and now it isnt...
[16:49] <Devender> @monkey yes
[16:49] <MonkeyDust> !recover | Devender there's this
[16:50] <Devender> @ubottu i'll try boss
[16:50] <Jordan_U> parkfae_: That's interesting, because the error message you're seeing says that you're booting via BIOS.
[16:51] <squinty> django: there is a virtualbox channel here on freenode #vbox
[16:51] <thinky> is java necessary to install in ubuntu ?
[16:52] <xangua> thinky: no
[16:52] <BluesKaj> not for ubuntu , but for surfing the 'net
[16:52] <Umeaboy> Devender: Try testdisk and photrec.
[16:52] <Umeaboy> photorec is a part of testdisk.
[16:52] <Umeaboy> !testdisk
[16:52] <parkfae_> Jordan_U, with the whole grub rescue thing?
[16:53] <Umeaboy> !photorec | Devender
[16:53] <Devender> @umeaboy i have used recoverjpeg is it good? is this recoverjpeg does better or not?
[16:53] <Umeaboy> Devender: Haven't used that one.
[16:53] <Umeaboy> I use photorec.
[16:55] <henry__> I have a printer xerox workcenter 3325 and can not printer of ubuntu. the messager is. printer not paper. In windows is normal work.
[16:55] <DJones> Devender: The first thing to do when trying to recover files is to stop using the disk the files were on and boot using a livecd, if you keep using the disk, there's always the chance that the deleted files could be overwritten with something you do now
[16:56] <Umeaboy> henry__: http://forum.support.xerox.com/t5/Printing/WorkCentre-3325-Persistently-Indicates-quot-Out-of-Paper-quot/td-p/181067
[16:56] <Tabou_> Queens layer are you here?
[16:57] <Tabou_> Queenslayer are you here?
[16:57] <Umeaboy> Tabou_: Doesn't seem like she's in the list of users.
[16:58] <MonkeyDust> Tabou_  type que and then hit tab to autocomplete ... if it doesnt, then s/he's not here
[16:58] <Kaiak_> Would either of these GPUs work well in 16.04?
[16:58] <henry__> Thanks!
[16:58] <Kaiak_> http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Gainward-XNE-88GTS-T36B-P356-GeForce-8800GTS-640MB-PCI-E-Graphics-Card-/162044423574?hash=item25ba99ad96:g:6aQAAOSwD2pXF2vP
[16:58] <Kaiak_> http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/NVIDIA-QUADRO-FX570-256MB-DUAL-DVI-FREE-POST-/252397800134?hash=item3ac414cac6:g:m7cAAOSwSgJXNxin
[16:58] <Kaiak_> looking to passthrough my AMD card to windows wondering if these older Nvidia cards work well with 16.04?
[16:58] <Kaiak_> I have no onboard graphics
[16:58] <Umeaboy> Kaiak_: I think that there's a Ubuntu support page for that.
[16:58] <Tabou_> MonkeyDust: thx
[16:59] <Kaiak_> Umeaboy: link
[16:59] <player0k> please help me
[16:59] <player0k> http://askubuntu.com/questions/775939/ubuntu-16-04-wallpaper-under-black-screen-after-login-unity-7-4-0
[16:59] <Umeaboy> Kaiak_: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/HybridGraphics
[17:00] <bst11> Hi i just run a fresh installation of ubuntu 16,04 in order to avoid a virtualbox Kernel driver not installed (rc=-1908) problem i encountered on my previous installation. however the problem is  still back. kindly help.. i have search the whole net for answers but none seems to work, any addictional info you need I will provide
[17:00] <Kaiak_> Umeaboy: no
[17:00] <Kaiak_> Umeaboy: not switching GPU
[17:00] <Umeaboy> player0k: Did you follow the instructions on that page.
[17:00] <Umeaboy> OK.
[17:00] <Kaiak_> I'm looking for a GPU
[17:00] <Kaiak_> that will work well with ubuntu
[17:00] <Kaiak_> it won't be switching gpus at all
[17:01] <player0k> -Umeaboy-: yes
[17:01] <Umeaboy> Kaiak_: I think the first model would be better to use.
[17:01] <k1l> player0k: @android? is that a chroot-on-android?
[17:01] <Kaiak_> Umeaboy: the 8800?
[17:01] <Umeaboy> The Gainward one.
[17:01] <Kaiak_> is that compatible with Nvidia's current priopotary drivers on 16.04?
[17:01] <Umeaboy> Yeah.
[17:01] <Slaizer> My purpose is to create a usb drive windows iso. Would like some suggestions of how I can make it happen.
[17:01] <player0k> it's just a hostname
[17:01] <Kaiak_> is that compatible with Nvidia's current priopotary drivers on 16.04?
[17:01] <player0k> x86_64
[17:01] <k1l> player0k: ok
[17:03] <henry__> jaja
[17:03] <k1l> player0k: is this a proper ubuntu install? usually nautilus handles the background.
[17:03] <henry__> Say. Contact to centro support xerox. Is all >*
[17:03] <player0k> I have installed nautilus
[17:04] <henry__> good solutions :L
[17:04] <Umeaboy> Kaiak_: I found a x64 driver for Linux on their website so yes.
[17:04] <Kaiak_> Umeaboy: for the 8800?
[17:04] <Kaiak_> Link
[17:04] <xangua> !winusb | Slaizer
[17:04] <player0k> It's happen after I installed gnome3-desktop
[17:04] <Umeaboy> xangua: WinUSB is broken.
[17:05] <player0k> It's happened after I installed gnome3-desktop
[17:05] <Umeaboy> The PPA won't add.
[17:05] <k1l> player0k: any PPAs in use?
[17:05] <Kaiak_> Umeaboy: can you link that driver? thx
[17:05] <player0k> yes
[17:05] <akik> Slaizer: i remember that you could just copy all the files from the installation dvd to the usb stick and then make it bootable
[17:05] <Umeaboy> Kaiak_: http://www.geforce.com/drivers/results/95165
[17:06] <Kaiak_> nov 2015 though
[17:06] <Kaiak_> would that work in 16.04?
[17:06] <Umeaboy> Kaiak_: Google to see if anyone has a had an issue with installing that.
[17:06] <Slaizer> akik, I think I have just such a usb stick, but it is not functioning on startup
[17:07] <Umeaboy> Or check the community.
[17:07] <Umeaboy> Anyway....... I have to go.
[17:07] <Umeaboy> Take care.
[17:09] <Kaiak_> the quadro uses the same driver
[17:09] <Kaiak_> hummm
[17:09] <Kaiak_> however a GT 740 uses a much newer driver from March
[17:11] <ianthius> hey guys i plugged a drive from my failed NAS into ubuntu and I can't get it to mount any suggestions?
[17:20] <odroid> holiii
[17:20] <odroid> alguien español
[17:21] <gurukrupa> hello
[17:21] <k1l> !es | odroid
[17:21] <odroid> helly my friend
[17:22] <odroid> ok
[17:22] <t00lman> ianthius, odds are, your NAS used the disk as an "md" device.  Read "man mdadm" and look for the "-E" or "--examine" flag
[17:23] <t00lman> be careful tho... mdadm can be dangerous
[17:24] <ianthius> t00lman: thanks. I ran mdadm --assemble --scan, it worked for my system drive, but hasn't brought this drive up the same way..
[17:25] <ianthius> t00lman: the system drive had some combo of logical volumes or something, running pvscan and vgscan helped bring those partitions up...
[17:25] <player0k> how to remove unused programs, after removing repository from PPA's list ?
[17:25] <player0k> how to remove unused programs/libraries, after removing repository from PPA's list ?
[17:26] <ianthius> t00lman: for the system drive once i installed lvm2 i was able to get it up and mounted. with this data drive though no luck..
[17:26] <BluesKaj> apt-get autoremove and apt-get autoclean , player0k
[17:27] <BluesKaj> parkfae_, after updating
[17:27] <BluesKaj> player0k,^
[17:27] <player0k> thanks, BluesKaj
[17:28] <thinky> hi again
[17:28] <BluesKaj> player0k, yeah update first
[17:28] <k1l> player0k: best is to use "ppa-purge" because it changes the packages back to the original state
[17:28] <k1l> !ppa-purge | player0k
[17:28] <ianthius> there is a main partition in the center of the drive that is 900 or so gb and gparted reports all the other partitions as ext4 but that one has no entry in the filesystem entry.
[17:28] <thinky> my ubuntu 16.04 faced error " “Sorry Ubuntu * has experienced an internal error” /usr/bin/compiz "
[17:28] <thinky> then i removed the directory by mistake while trying a command " sudo rm /usr/bin/compiz "
[17:29] <BluesKaj> k1 what if he doesn't want to regress , just remove unneeded packages
[17:29] <B0g4r7_> ianthius, what nas?
[17:29] <ianthius> B0g4r7_: QNAP
[17:29] <thinky> now desktop is blank, what should i do ?
[17:29] <B0g4r7_> I tried doing that kind of thing from a WD MyBook, and it was all wonky.  They used some kind of modified ext4.  I ended up having to use some fuse setup to get at it.
[17:29] <k1l> BluesKaj: the problem is, that its possible he will never get any updates from the repos for that packages now. even security ones.
[17:30] <BluesKaj> k1 once they're in the backports that shouldn't be a problem
[17:31] <ianthius> B0g4r7_: well i was able to access data on the first HD so I think it's some normal linux thing that I haven't figure out yet. What is fuse setup?
[17:31] <B0g4r7_> ianthius, fuse is Filesystem in UserSpacE.  I had to use some fuse module to be able to mount their modified ext4.
[17:32] <k1l> BluesKaj: no. it depends on the naming of the version in the PPA. most PPAs have bad naming so apt still thinks the PPA one is newer than the original repo one. so it doesnt update
[17:33] <B0g4r7_> Someone else had done all the hard work, and I just followed their guide on the webpage.
[17:33] <thinky> k1l: are u available?
[17:34] <BluesKaj> never experienced that, of course Idon';t use ppas whose  packages aren't upgraded in the regular repos
[17:34] <k1l> thinky: just ask
[17:34] <thinky> k1l: i deleted /usr/bin/compiz dir by command " sudo rm /usr/bin/compiz
[17:35] <thinky> after that i restarted and desktop was blank
[17:35] <EriC^> thinky: why'd you do that?
[17:35] <k1l> thinky: why did you do that?
[17:35] <thinky> i dont know
[17:35]  * EriC^ suspects miscommunication
[17:35] <thinky> :S
[17:35] <BluesKaj> oops
[17:35] <B0g4r7_> Sounds like you'll need to put that file back to fix it.
[17:36] <EriC^> thinky: type sudo apt-get install --reinstall compiz-core
[17:36] <B0g4r7_> ...if [s]he can boot and get to a shell.
[17:36] <thinky> EriC^: but i can not reach my desktop how can i apply the command?
[17:36] <EriC^> thinky: ctrl+alt+f1
[17:37] <thinky> ok i will try it
[17:38] <thinky> brb
[17:41] <scuttle_toes> join #bicycle
[17:46] <screamingninja> What's the difference between the packages 'adb' and 'android-tools-adb'?
[17:46] <screamingninja> Besides the version, that is.
[17:47] <thinky> EriC^: thank you :)
[17:47] <thinky> i got back my desktop
[17:49] <thinky> i have another issue now. i connect my laptop to external monitor. but ubuntu doesnt set the resolution automatically. i usually use laptop lid closed. when i open lid i want ubuntu duplicate the display. and when i close the lid i want it change the resolution to external monitor.
[17:49] <thinky> laptop has 1280x800 , external monitor 1980x1050
[17:54] <screamingninja> thinky: You can put together a script that gets called each time you open or close the lid, and use xrandr to set the desired resolution at that time.
[17:54] <screamingninja> https://help.ubuntu.com/community/LaptopLidAndDockScripts
[17:55] <thinky> it was ok before i dont know why it is causing problem now
[17:55] <thinky> brb
[17:57] <jianu81> hi guys
[17:57] <jianu81> i have a laptop with a 16gb ssd
[17:57] <jianu81> and no ethernet slot
[17:57] <screamingninja> jianu81: That's awesome. I wish I had one of those too.
[17:58] <jianu81> and what would be the best ubuntu based distro to install kubuntu,lubuntu,minimal cd ubuntu ?
[17:58] <screamingninja> jianu81: What's the processor like?
[17:58] <EriC^> jianu81: and ram?
[17:58] <k1l> is it a chromebook?
[17:58] <jianu81> intel celeron 3205u(released 2015),4gb ram,yes it is a chromebook
[17:58] <screamingninja> ^ lol, nice.
[17:59] <screamingninja> !chromebook
[17:59] <OerHeks> jianu81, no ethernet .. fix that first in a live session, then install what you like
[17:59] <player0k> help me please, I can't reinstall `nautilus` ... there is log http://pastie.org/private/nhoxuayhm8lp661pcvpg
[17:59] <jianu81> yeah
[17:59] <jianu81> but i already
[17:59] <jianu81> have ubuntu 16.04 installed
[17:59] <jianu81> and it takes way too much space
[17:59] <jianu81> it only lets me have 8.3 gb
[17:59] <jianu81> i need at least 11
[18:00] <screamingninja> player0k: `apt-cache policy nautilus`
[18:00] <jianu81> so ?\
[18:00] <jianu81> what would the best option be ?|
[18:00] <screamingninja> jianu81: lubuntu, definitely
[18:01] <jianu81> how much space does it use ?
[18:02] <player0k> http://pastie.org/private/nr9adyvwgxlnlzlwsxfq
[18:02] <player0k> -screamingninja-,  http://pastie.org/private/nr9adyvwgxlnlzlwsxfq
[18:03] <screamingninja> player0k: where did you get this version of nautilus?
[18:04] <player0k> -screamingninja-, from some PPA ...
[18:04] <OerHeks> jianu81, check out any desktop with --no-install-recommends, that would be a slim desktop, and hardly usable
[18:05] <jianu81> you find lxde unusable ?
[18:06] <thinky> when i close lid with my laptop it doesnt go to sleep :S i checked battery settings it is set to " Suspend" what can be wrong?
[18:06] <cliffer1> how to enable passive ftp in ubuntu 16.04.? is there anything like a module which can be enabled? or is it just enable the right iptables?
[18:09] <zykotick9> cliffer1: ftp + firewall = good luck...  personally, i think if you're using ftp in this day and age, you're probably doin' something wrong.  ymmv.
[18:09] <screamingninja> plasticboy: `apt-get install nautilus=3.18.4.is.3.14.3-0ubuntu4`
[18:09] <TDLM> is anyone here running ubuntu 16.04 lts on Lenovo E31-70? if so, any hassle installing ubuntu? also: any problems with non-registering keys on keyboard ( https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OTB_T0qML60 ) and flexing keyboard ( https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7pjkpIOZ3bg ) like many lenovo laptops these days? i'm looking specifically at this model: https://www.dustinhome.no/product/5010901144/e31-70
[18:09] <screamingninja> whatever happened to player0k.
[18:10] <screamingninja> TDLM: I think mine is E30-71. Never heard of this issue.
[18:10]  * screamingninja headdesks.
[18:10] <squinty> screamingninja, * player0k has quit (Remote host closed the connection)
[18:10] <cliffer1> zykotick9: what is wrong with ftpes?
[18:11] <screamingninja> squinty: gotcha
[18:11] <zykotick9> cliffer1: FTP MUST DIE!  http://mywiki.wooledge.org/FtpMustDie
[18:13] <jianu81> so lubuntu vs ubuntu server ?
[18:13] <jianu81> on a 16 gb ssd ?
[18:14] <brianx> sshfs is nice.  it's even reasonably cross platform now.  ftp has little use.
[18:14] <TDLM> screamingninja: this is E31-80 (a different model to the one i want, but very similar), here the complete laptop presses down when he hits the keys: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DtoKLxkify4&t=2m33s - 2:33-2:40
[18:14] <TDLM> screamingninja: no such issues on your E30-71?
[18:15] <DJones> jianu81: Depends if you need a gui, normally server installs are command line only
[18:15] <jianu81> going to install lxde on that servers
[18:15] <cliffer1> zykotick9: so you would recomend scp?
[18:15] <jianu81> going to install lxde on that server*
[18:15] <Guest10490> I have such an annoying wireless bug in Kubuntu 16.04, could somebody help me to debug it? I can connect to WLAN but have no internet connection after every boot or suspend. After some time, it starts working. See https://bugzilla.gnome.org/show_bug.cgi?id=765578
[18:18] <Edico> hi
[18:19] <sonic> hi guys i keep getting "the system is running in low graphics mode" when i try to start up ubuntu and im clueless on how to fix this can anyone help?
[18:19] <Edico> what's the super key in ubuntu?
[18:20] <DJones> Edico: Windows key
[18:20] <moldo> hello guys
[18:20] <Edico> thanks DJones
[18:20] <moldo> i have trouble to activate dual screen. i installed the recommended drivers in additional drivers in settings software and updates
[18:20] <Bashing-om> sonic: See what X has to relate : ' cat /var/log/Xorg.0.log | pastebinit ' . We see what tale gets told .
[18:21] <moldo> but when i want to detect a display it doesnt show my external monitor
[18:21] <moldo> i tried xrandr
[18:21] <moldo> nothing as well
[18:23] <ramk9966> hello
[18:23] <sonic> ive tried installing a navidia, i think thats what its called , i got told that would fix my problem but i still get the same " the system is running in low graphics mode" is their not a quick fix for this?
[18:23] <ramk9966> do you know good ubuntu notebook?
[18:24] <yannn> Hi everybody, I got kicked out.. This was my question: I have such an annoying wireless bug in Kubuntu 16.04, could somebody help me to debug it? I can connect to WLAN but have no internet connection after every boot or suspend. After some time, it starts working. See https://bugzilla.gnome.org/show_bug.cgi?id=765578
[18:24] <Bashing-om> sonic: And I say again .. show us that log file . Let's then see what X is doing .
[18:25] <yannn> It would be great to get some assistance
[18:25] <sonic> okay im on windows the now il have to boot up ubuntu il be back on in 5 mins
[18:26] <Bashing-om> sonic: K, at your pace .
[18:32] <vakt> When attempting to run sudo-apt get upgrade, I get this: http://paste.ubuntu.com/16614269/ (problems with apport/python)...
[18:32] <vakt> How can I fix this? ^
[18:33] <MonkeyDust> vakt  are using a ppa?
[18:33] <pirn> what is ppa?
[18:33] <sonic> so im looking at xserver log file is that the right log file?
[18:34] <sureshot> hello is 16.04 if final release it seems a little kluddge over 14.04
[18:34] <MonkeyDust> !ppa > pirn
[18:34] <vakt> MonkeyDust: I, too have to ask, what a ppa is?
[18:34] <MonkeyDust> vakt  ok, so no
[18:35] <MonkeyDust> !ppa
[18:35] <vakt> MonkeyDust: Well, my provider mirrors the updates?
[18:35] <pirn> !linux
[18:36] <pirn> !modem
[18:36] <pirn> !router
[18:38] <MonkeyDust> pirn  use /msg ubottu    if you want to explore factoids
[18:38] <pirn> did i missed any message?
[18:39] <sonic> any one else get the message 'the system is running in low graphics mode' when they boot up, there was a dude gonna help me but dont think hes here now
[18:39] <vakt> pirn: you left and joined within like 2 seconds. no.
[18:39] <pirn> ok thanks vakt
[18:39] <pirn> vakt=wakt=time?
[18:40] <vakt> MonkeyDust: are you able to help me?
[18:40] <MonkeyDust> pirn  keep it in the channel
[18:41] <misthalu> <--- bought new computer, installed Ubuntu 16.04, internal card reader seems to not work. Known problem or should I look into hardware issues?
[18:41] <sureshot> is anyone here using 16.04
[18:41] <vakt> pirn: vakt = guard in Norwegian according to google translate.
[18:42] <misthalu> sureshot, I am, for a few days now.
[18:42] <yannn> sureshot: I'm running Kubuntu 16.04 on a Thinkpad t460s, card reader works
[18:42] <sonic> can anyone help me?
[18:42] <Bashing-om> !who | sonic
[18:42] <misthalu> yannn, Thanks.
[18:42] <sureshot> does it not seem as smooth as 14.04 sota kuddgy for lack of a term
[18:43] <OerHeks> vakt, hint: run "sudo apt-get update " before upgrade
[18:43] <vakt> OerHeks: Did that already :P
[18:44] <vakt> OerHeks: did it again. without any errors.
[18:44] <Bashing-om> sonic: How comfortable are you with the Command Line ?
[18:45] <sonic> !bashing-on im just getting into it
[18:46] <sureshot> thats funny LOL
[18:47] <ubuntu054> hello there
[18:47] <ubuntu054> I am typing from a laptop connected via dsl through the cable
[18:47] <sonic> !Bashing-om im ok using the command line
[18:47] <MonkeyDust> ubuntu054  so am i
[18:47] <ubuntu054> but I would like to get the wireless to work
[18:48] <ubuntu054> Can anybody give me a hand?
[18:48] <ubuntu054> Hi MonkeyDust
[18:48] <MonkeyDust> ubuntu054  in a terminal, type   nmtui
[18:48] <Bashing-om> sonic: We will get ya there . Let's change the pitput pastnin sote to make it easier on you . Do in terminsl : ' cat /var/log/Xorg.0.log | nc termbin.com 9999 ' . The result will be a URL back in terminal; pass that link back here and we will see that log file .
[18:49] <vakt> OerHeks: any further suggestions?
[18:49] <ubuntu054> MonkeyDust: ehm I have forgot to mention that I run Lubuntu, and probably that command doesn't work
[18:50] <MonkeyDust> ubuntu054  what happens if you type in the terminal
[18:50] <ubuntu054> command not found
[18:50] <ubuntu054> it says
[18:50] <MonkeyDust> ubuntu054  ok, first: sudo apt install nmtui
[18:50] <ubuntu054> ok
[18:50] <ubuntu054> thanks MonkeyDust
[18:50] <donofrio> anyone know how I can use stock ubuntu 16.04 and "join" the xorg's together so I can watch youtube across four mointors stiched together as one?
[18:51] <ubuntu054> MonkeyDust: it says unable to locate package
[18:51] <MonkeyDust> ubuntu054  what's the output of   cat /etc/issue
[18:52] <sureshot> ok here is a silly question i should already know how do i turn off the joins and quits here
[18:52] <ubuntu054> MonkeyDust:  I have forgot to mention that when scanning the pcmcia it sees the wireless card
[18:52] <ubuntu054> it is a Intel Pro Wireless
[18:52] <MonkeyDust> pcmcia? does that still exist?
[18:52] <DJones> !quietirc | sureshot
[18:53] <ubuntu054> ehm
[18:53] <ubuntu054> MonkeyDust: something like that
[18:53] <sureshot> thanks
[18:53] <sonic> whats the command for getting specific user
[18:53] <MonkeyDust> ubuntu054  repeat your question with details in the channel, in one line
[18:54] <Bashing-om> sonic: In what context ? maybe ' who ' ?
[18:55] <sureshot> wow that was hard sorry for silly questions and thanks much
[18:55] <ubuntu054> Sure
[18:57] <Fiki> So for the more versed ubuntu people out there, should I upgrade to ubuntu 16 or should I just keep rolling with 14 for a year or so
[18:57] <ubuntu054> MonkeyDust: I have just said that I have an Intel Pro wireless card and lubuntu does sees it in PCI but doesn't allow me to connect on internet
[18:57] <sonic> Bashing-om its u i was looking for, just u said its a big channel just in case u missed my message, i just tried cat/var/log/xorg.0.log and it told me no such file or directory
[18:58] <Kaedenn> What's the console equivalent for the "connect to server" functionality? Is it just mount with the proper args, or is there some other interface?
[18:58] <Kaedenn> I'm trying to write a shell script that does the equivalent of "connect to these two specific servers"
[18:59] <ubuntu054> MonkeyDust: if I run lshw I can see the wireless card
[18:59] <Kaedenn> ...methinks it might be gvfs-mount
[19:00] <MonkeyDust> ubuntu054  don't address me, address the channel
[19:00] <robotti^> ubuntu is cool
[19:00] <Fiki> Kaedenn, nautilus-connect-server
[19:00] <Kaedenn> Fiki: Okay, but I want one level lower than that. I want a utility I can automate
[19:00] <Kaedenn> ...assuming nautilus-connect-server is always interactive, which I should check
[19:01] <yannn> Is anybody around who could help me troubleshooting networking/wireless problems?
[19:01] <Kaedenn> Fiki: yup, I want something one level lower
[19:01] <Fiki> Kaedenn, why not ssh and then use SCP?
[19:02] <Kaedenn> Fiki: Because I'm doing a bunch of filesystem stuff (editing files, renaming files, moving files, laughing at files, etc) and scp won't give me a shell.
[19:02] <Kaedenn> Also I want to use the local shell, because the remote shell is vt220.
[19:02] <Kaedenn> (don't ask)
[19:02] <sonic> :Bashing-om you there man?
[19:03] <robotti^> Kaedenn: do you have physical vt220?
[19:03] <robotti^> i have vt420
[19:03] <Kaedenn> When I ssh to the server, without mucking with any of my environment variables, $TERM is vt220.
[19:04] <Fiki> Kaedenn, well you can always go with a programming language instead of bash, it'll give you more flexibility at least
[19:04] <robotti^> it would be cool, if there is utf-8 support
[19:04] <robotti^> or is what vt410
[19:04] <Jordan_U> Kaedenn: gvfs-mount or sshfs.
[19:05] <Kaedenn> Jordan_U: Thank you. gvfs-mount it is. sshfs is... not something I want to continue using
[19:07] <sonic> !Bashing-om did you see my last message?
[19:08] <Kaedenn> heh
[19:08] <Bashing-om> sonic: Yeah .. I am back .. try again, if that file is not present .. you do indeed have a problem: la -al /var/log/xorg.0.log >> -rw-r--r-- 1 root root 51054 May 22 11:59 /var/log/Xorg.0.log . That is with ab uppercase 'X; and a space as the delimiter .
[19:08] <ioria> sonic is Xorg.0.log not xorg.0.log
[19:08] <Kaedenn> Jordan_U: Thank you, now to figure out how to use it
[19:08] <Kaedenn> (gfvs-mount that is)
[19:09] <ioria> sonic and put a space after 'cat'
[19:10] <dowell> mode +i
[19:16] <akik> wtf is this derp shit? :)
[19:17] <sonic> Bashing-om i just tried that again and after i write it, it goes down a line and all i get is >
[19:17] <akik> sorry
[19:18] <Bashing-om> sonic: do ' ctl+c " to get back to bash terminal . and then what results " ls -al /var/log/Xorg.0.log " where linux is case semsitive . X is not x .
[19:19] <Bashing-om> sensitive*
[19:22] <Bashing-om> sonic: Hang in here .. we will get through all this . Ain't no step for a stepper !
[19:23] <sonic> Bashing-om now i have -rw-r--r-- root root 39430 may 22 20:11 /var/log/Xorg.0.log is that ok?
[19:25] <Bashing-om> sonic: Yeah .. now put that file in the pastbin so we see what we are woking with , what X has to say : ' cat /var/log/Xorg.0.log | nc termbin.com 9999 ' . Pass the link returned back here .
[19:27] <sonic> Bashing-om how do i put it in the pastebin?
[19:28] <ioria> sonic, just run the command Bashing-om gave you
[19:28] <Bashing-om> sonic: Terminal command ' cat /var/log/Xorg.0.log | nc termbin.com 9999 ' will do it for you .
[19:28] <craptalk> guys, i am having flickering screen on my ubuntu-mate
[19:29] <craptalk> how can i fix it?
[19:29] <craptalk> please help
[19:29] <joel_> Hi
[19:29] <nchambers> Bashing-om, uuoc!
[19:30] <craptalk> do you know why/
[19:31] <Bashing-om> craptalk: Ist .. is verify that the correct driver for the graphic's card is in use .
[19:31] <krismatrix> How does one disable snap packages?
[19:31] <sureshot> sorry to ask again what was that wiki link on join/left notifications sorry about spelling
[19:31] <craptalk> Bashing-om: then?
[19:31] <MonkeyDust> !quietirc
[19:32] <sureshot> thanks changed irc chat software
[19:32] <sedris> Hello. I'm having a problem formatting my 8GB USB Drive, after creating Ubuntu 16.04LTS startup disk via the default app in Ubuntu Unity (Startup Disk Creator). When I try to format the USB Drive it gives me an error that the drive is write protected. I have tried sudo mount -o remount,rw '/mnt/usb-TDK_LoR_TF30_USB_3.0_07033359B64DD695-0:0-part1'/, but with no luck. I get an error after executing the command : mount: cannot remount /dev/sdb1 read-write, is
[19:32] <sedris> write-protected.
[19:32] <Bashing-om> craptalk: depends on what is installed for a driver . Maybe examon the log file /var/log/Xorg.0.log for anu errors .
[19:32] <sonic> Bashing-om is that all one command?
[19:33] <craptalk> Bashing-om: it should be xorg, but it still flickering
[19:33] <Bashing-om> sonic: It is one sequence ,. all in one line . copy and paste for best results . and hit the enter key .
[19:34] <Bashing-om> craptalk: So, again .. What card and what driver ? hybrid graphics ???
[19:34] <sedris> Any ideas how to fix this? The USB was working perfectly fine, before creating Ubuntu 16.04 startup disk
[19:36] <OerHeks> sedris, maybe you need to adress /media/<device> instead of mnt
[19:36] <sedris> @OerHeks I tried that too, same error
[19:36] <ioria> sedris, are you using gparted ?
[19:37] <sedris> i can't do anything in gparted
[19:37] <sonic> Bashing-om all its doing is putting me onto the next command line >
[19:37] <sedris> the only thing i can do in gparted is to unmount the usb drive, and the gparted just hangs
[19:38] <ioria> sonic, without the single quotes ' '    run cat /var/log/Xorg.0.log | nc termbin.com 9999
[19:39] <Coder[X]> Hello all. I am in a bit of trouble here with my Ubuntu 16.04
[19:40] <sonic> ioria what symbol is that between log & nc?
[19:40] <Coder[X]> Kids turned on and off the laptop few times directly by pressing the power button and after that several drivers are not working properly.
[19:40] <ioria> sonic,  it'a a pipe   |
[19:41] <Coder[X]> how can I replace / fix those drivers?
[19:41] <Bashing-om> sonic: I do not know what to say .. the result is " sysop@1404mini:~$ cat /var/log/Xorg.0.log | nc termbin.com 9999 " >> http://termbin.com/f5mm . From my system .
[19:43] <bonhoeffer> i'm trying to compile and getting: config.status: error: cannot find input file: `Makefile.in'
[19:43] <k00l3th4n> Coder[X]: Try going to Software & Updates > Additional Drivers and load another driver and then revert back.
[19:43] <bonhoeffer> this source: https://github.com/LASzip/LASzip
[19:43] <Seveas> bonhoeffer: sounds like you need to run automake
[19:44] <ioria> sonic,  if you don't find the pipe , install pastebinit (sudo apt-get install pastebinit) and use this pastebinit <( cat /var/log/Xorg.0.log )
[19:44] <meh> if i have a binery deb
[19:44] <meh> how can i generate the source deb ?
[19:44] <Seveas> bonhoeffer: there's an autogen.sh script in that source tree, run it
[19:44] <bonhoeffer> https://gist.github.com/tbbooher/782b6507bcebcd008aa560cb83b54c2f
[19:44] <Seveas> meh: you can't.
[19:44] <meh> if this deb is a font installer
[19:44] <bonhoeffer> Seveas: I did run the automake.sh
[19:44] <meh> ok
[19:44] <bonhoeffer> autogen
[19:45] <meh> then, how can i upload a binery deb file to launhpad ?
[19:45] <meh> the binary means "i dont have source"
[19:45] <meh> because is a font installer
[19:45] <Seveas> bonhoeffer: well, then it's buggy. File a bug on that github page.
[19:45] <Seveas> meh: you can't.
[19:45] <bonhoeffer> will do --
[19:45] <bonhoeffer> let me know if this helps: https://gist.github.com/tbbooher/782b6507bcebcd008aa560cb83b54c2f
[19:45] <OerHeks> meh, that would be suspicious for just a font
[19:45] <meh> then
[19:46] <bonhoeffer> full screen capture of the autogen running
[19:46] <meh> how can i create a repo, ith my deb? "is a fontinstaller"
[19:46] <sonic> Bashing-om & ioria we have it lol its http://termbin.com/7iha
[19:46] <Coder[X]> k00l3th4n, thanks. Let me try. But, is there commands that can do the similar, like apt-get update?
[19:46] <Bashing-om> sonic: Outstanding .. reading .. be back in a bit .
[19:47] <meh> i only am putting  it
[19:47] <Seveas> bonhoeffer: yeah, that looks pretty buggy. Nothing we can do about that, that'll be between you and the author of that thing.
[19:47] <bonhoeffer> Saveas got it
[19:47] <meh> "/usr/share/fonts/truetype/nameoffont"
[19:47] <craptalk> Bashing-om: do you know why?
[19:47] <meh> only copy files for it
[19:47] <meh> but i dont know how upload it to launchpad
[19:48] <Seveas> meh: create a source package. Use dput to upload said source package.
[19:49] <meh> but
[19:49] <meh> how can i make it?
[19:49] <meh> i have the "binary"
[19:49] <Seveas> http://packaging.ubuntu.com/html/
[19:49] <meh> this binary  only has control        file
[19:50] <OerHeks> meh, then choose another platform, not launchpad
[19:51] <meh> what plattform is recomended?
[19:51] <lau-> Hi. I installed Ubuntu 16.04. Is there some way I can make a keyboard shortcut to make Super+Left arrow and Super+Right arrow tile the current window to left/right?
[19:51] <craptalk> how to fix flickering screen? i have been having this issue at the past few weeks?
[19:51] <meh> because i am trying to make a repository with it  "for add new fonts "
[19:51] <craptalk> please help
[19:52] <mutante> craptalk: maybe it's just the cable
[19:52] <craptalk> mutante: dont think so, i checked it already
[19:53] <kus> hi, is there a way to sort the results of sudo du -hs /usr/bin/*
[19:53] <kus>  so it is easier for me to see what folders are the largest?
[19:53] <moldo> hi can you help me please? i cant get my output display to work i m using ati drivers im on ubuntu 14.04
[19:53] <cliffer1> kus: is sort not enough?
[19:54] <Bashing-om> sonic: Well. X sees no problems : " BOOT_IMAGE=/boot/vmlinuz-4.4.0-22-generic.efi.signed" >> you are running release 16.04 . Card is identified " PCI:*(0:0:1:0) 1002:9853:1179:f910 rev 0 " . Driver is loaded "  (II) LoadModule: "radeon" "" . As this is 16.04 amd ATI graphics, you have the only driver there is . Restate the issue please, as X sees no problem .
[19:54] <craptalk> maybe i should change some settings?
[19:54] <craptalk> please help
[19:54] <craptalk> scrolling, playing video always flickering
[19:54] <kus> cliffer1, it sorts by the directory name if I am correct
[19:55] <argon__> kus: pipe it with sort
[19:55] <Apachez> .
[19:55] <cliffer1> kus: how did you used it?
[19:55] <Bashing-om> craptalk: ' cat /var/log/Xorg.0.log | nc termbin.com 9999 ' To see what is going on .
[19:55] <MonkeyDust> kus  add   |sort -n
[19:56] <craptalk> Bashing-om: i dont know what to read here
[19:56] <cliffer1> kus: it anyway sucks if size have a ,
[19:56] <craptalk> Bashing-om: it has bunch of codes
[19:56] <sedris> anyone can help me with my issue?
[19:56] <kus> no, this is perfect. I was missing the -n
[19:56] <Bashing-om> craptalk: The result is a URL. pass the link back here and we can read that file .
[19:57] <craptalk> Bashing-om: http://termbin.com/ed5z
[19:58] <raul782> Hi guys, I'm upgrading from 14.04 to 16.04, and my upgrade got stuck at update-notifier-common, it's been like an hour. If I restart should I resume normally?
[19:58] <moldo> how do i make my system to detect vga display LCD screen ?
[19:58] <kus> thank you guys
[19:59] <k00l3th4n> Coder[X]: I'm not sure but that method has always worked for me.
[19:59] <Bashing-om> craptalk: " (WW) Warning, couldn't open module nvidia " Give us some background. What have "you" done to cause this ?
[19:59] <raul782> Well, it's been like an hour since on that task, Configuring update-notifier-common (amd64)
[19:59] <raul782> Is there a way to find what is causing the error, The computer is responsive so far,
[20:00] <moldo> how do i configure my system ubuntu 14.04 to detect my external display ? i ts a laptop
[20:00] <craptalk> Bashing-om: i dont know, i didnt do anything since i installed ubuntu as my main OS
[20:00] <craptalk> it was just flickering from the start
[20:00] <craptalk> i dont know what to expect to happen
[20:01] <argon__> moldo: it should detect it automatically. Have a look in your settings
[20:01] <MonkeyDust> moldo  i have a laptop with external display, was detected out of the box in the system settings... what does it show in your system
[20:01] <raul782> I was looking at /var/lib/update-notifier/package-data-downloads and I found a file ttf-mscorefonts-installer that suspiciously has a timestamp around the time it got stuck, there is a folder /partial created
[20:01] <sonic> Bashing-om my main problem is all i get is "the system is running in low graphics" "your screen, graphics card and input device settings could not be detected correctly. you will need to configure this yourself" thats my problem i have no idea how too
[20:01] <craptalk> my resolution and all, i let it be default configured
[20:01] <raul782> at the same timestamp
[20:02] <moldo> argon__,  MonkeyDust  i was working but i modified some stuff with the terminal and now it doesnt work
[20:02] <moldo> it was working
[20:02] <k00l3th4n> moldo: You could try plugging in the external and shutdown and restart. It should automatically detect it then.
[20:03] <argon__> sonic: maybe this will be helpful for you: http://askubuntu.com/questions/141606/how-to-fix-the-system-is-running-in-low-graphics-mode-error
[20:03] <moldo> k00l3th4n, i tried that it doesnt work. i have dualboot and on win 7 the external display works
[20:04] <moldo> does it has to do with drivers ?
[20:04] <Bashing-om> sonic: Right off hand I do not know ..lemme consider a bit on what we can do.
[20:04] <argon__> moldo:  seems like your driver fails to detect the monitor
[20:04] <moldo> argon__, yes i played with the drivers and it s the AMD drivers now that is on
[20:05] <Bashing-om> craptalk: Does this file exist ' ls -al /etc/X11/Xorg.conf ' ?
[20:05] <moldo> must be the drivers i reckon
[20:05] <craptalk> Bashing-om: nope
[20:05] <argon__> moldo: what happens when you connect the monitor? Does the screen "blink" like it usally does when you connect an external monitor
[20:05] <craptalk> not exist
[20:06] <craptalk> Bashing-om: should i reinstall nvidia driver? and how to do it?
[20:06] <moldo> argon__, it says no signal
[20:06] <nils_> so what's the progress of requesting an upgrade to a package?
[20:06] <nils_> process
[20:06] <Bashing-om> craptalk: We are working up to a re-install . what returns ' sudo ubuntu-drivers devices ; sudo ubuntu-drivers list ' ?
[20:07] <argon__> moldo: try to connect the monitor before you power on your computer
[20:07] <MonkeyDust> nils_  sudo apt update && sudo apt upgrade
[20:07] <moldo> argon__, done that and the light on the monitor turn from blue to yellow
[20:07] <nibjork> Hey is there any way to restore the default folders in my /home ?
[20:07] <nibjork> Like pictures etc.
[20:08] <MonkeyDust> nibjork  start from the beginning, what happened
[20:08] <craptalk> Bashing-om: http://pastebin.com/0HNJG3i3
[20:09] <craptalk> Bashing-om: quite old personal computer
[20:09] <argon__> moldo: hmm... If you go to your display settings, does it detect the screen at all?
[20:09] <moldo> no
[20:09] <moldo> i dont have any other choice than the laptop display
[20:09] <Bashing-om> SonikkuAmerica: Let's verify. pipe ' sudo lshw -C display ' to termbin 9999. See what the system says for a driver .
[20:09] <nibjork> It changed language then all the folders changed names
[20:10] <a40ntistos> Hello everyone, I bought a Dell inspiron laptop with ubuntu and after the buy i open it to install an ssd drive and I've installed 16.04. After that I'm hearing from laptop's speaker a sound like electric noise? Do you have any ideas before I will assume that is a hardware issue?
[20:10] <nibjork> MonkeyDust: ->
[20:10] <argon__> moldo: on gnome its settings --> displays. It should be similar on unity
[20:10] <nibjork> MonkeyDust: It changed language then all the folders changed names
[20:11] <moldo> argon__, same... doesnt detect the monitor
[20:12] <moldo> argon__,  oooh i see , it s the difference between 3D and 2D drivers
[20:12] <MonkeyDust> nibjork  so the folders names are the default one, but in another language?
[20:12] <moldo> you have to download ati radeon drivers without the x server settings
[20:13] <meh> or i should contact a  ppa-owner for  advice  "or send it to a community team, such as webupd8, and wait his approval"
[20:13] <michael33> i accidently ran chown -R pi:pi /
[20:13] <nibjork> MonkeyDust: Yes
[20:13] <argon__> moldo: could it be a broken cable?
[20:14] <MonkeyDust> nibjork  and did you change the language on purpose?
[20:14] <michael33> i was trying to install vmware tools because it works on my 14.04 install
[20:14] <michael33> but on 16 it doenst
[20:14] <michael33> any quick fix?
[20:14] <B0g4r7_> michael33, I found the same thing.  I switched to virtualbox and never looked back.
[20:14] <nibjork> MonkeyDust: Yes, but then i wanted to use English again :P
[20:14] <nchambers> I installed/setup mailman via https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Mailman, but when I try to access mysite.tld/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo I get a 403. does anyone know how to fix this?
[20:14] <michael33> B0: guess im gonna do that too
[20:15] <michael33> B0g4r7_: any cons compared to vmware?
[20:15] <craptalk> Bashing-om: let me know if you found it?
[20:15] <argon__> I second virtualbox
[20:15] <moldo> argon__, i upgraded the drivers testing it
[20:15] <B0g4r7_> None so far, thought I've not used it a whole lot.
[20:15] <michael33> k gonna do that then thx for the help
[20:15] <argon__> moldo: so it worked before updating drivers?
[20:15] <B0g4r7_> I installed a WinXP vm and a 14.04 vm with no trouble.
[20:16] <moldo> argon__, it worked before the crash of the computer when i played dota 2
[20:16] <fearnothing> does anyone on here use teamviewer?
[20:16] <MonkeyDust> nibjork  then undo the language change again, the way you changed it
[20:16] <argon__> moldo: run this command: lshw -c video
[20:16] <swift110> fearnothing, ive used it
[20:17] <fearnothing> did it break after the first time you used it?
[20:17] <michael33> any fix for this piece of code i accidently ran on my terminal? -> "sudo chown -R pi:pi /"
[20:17] <michael33> i did / instead of folder/
[20:17] <swordz> Hi. I have done a Bad Thing, and would like some help to undo this. I enabled the pre-release repository, and then updated. I would now like to undo this - but can't seem to work out which packages I need to downgrade, or to which version. Is there a way to see which version is available to install for each package? "apt-cache policy" seems to include the installed version.
[20:17] <B0g4r7_> No easy fix that I know of.
[20:17] <Bashing-om> craptalk: That card is still supported ( ends last of next year !) . ' sudo apt purge nvidia* ; sudo apt update ; sudo apt full-upgrade ; sudo apt install nvidia-340 ' .
[20:17] <fearnothing> I'm trying to help my dad with something and I've been replicating what he does in a VM
[20:17] <k1l> michael33: not possible. all file permissions on your system are now changed. you cant solve that.
[20:18] <fearnothing> we both installed teamviewer, which worked after installing. Now a week later, neither system can launch it
[20:18] <fearnothing> and there's absolutely f**k all about this problem on google
[20:18] <craptalk> Bashing-om: should i do it that command
[20:18] <craptalk> ?
[20:18] <michael33> k1l: thx, going to delete it and start all over
[20:18] <moldo> argon__, yes it s show the properties
[20:18] <moldo> driver = fglrx_pci
[20:18] <MonkeyDust> michael33  interesting mistake, tho, from a technician's point of view
[20:19] <moldo> that s when i upgraded the opengl that it s started to get problems
[20:19] <Bashing-om> craptalk: We want to re-install .. so fist is pruge what is .. make sure the system is full up 2 date , and then install the nvidia driver .
[20:19] <michael33> MonkeyDust: worst type u can make when working with windows and linux at the same time
[20:19] <michael33> typo*
[20:19] <B0g4r7_> I've made a similar mistake, cloning one system to another, forgetting to preserve permissions fully.  Weird stuff happened.
[20:20] <B0g4r7_> One program in particular was unhappy that it could no longer write to /dev/zero.
[20:20] <argon__> moldo: I don't know. Maybe its worth checking the loaded driver with lsmod
[20:21] <SonikkuAmerica> Bashing-om - what?
[20:21] <fearnothing> ffs
[20:21] <fearnothing> the files it's complaining about are RIGHT THERE
[20:22] <moldo> argon__, yes :)
[20:22] <argon__> moldo: lsmod | grep video
[20:23] <Bashing-om> SonikkuAmerica: Sorry .. The poster I guess left .. and you got highlighed by my error .
[20:24] <SonikkuAmerica> heh. acually you've been highlighting me all day because I'm using a crappy client with silly nick matching and no highlight settings - Bashing-om
[20:24] <zark> argon__, its me moldo :) i copy paste the result on pastebin
[20:24] <argon__> moldo: sorry, my laptop ran out of battery
[20:24] <argon__> zark: sorry, my laptop ran out of battery
[20:24] <zark> argon__, no worries
[20:24] <argon__> zark: alright
[20:25] <Bashing-om> SonikkuAmerica: :( I Hate when that happens .. irssi time  for your client ?
[20:25] <zark> argon__, http://pastebin.com/4i5m5x8s
[20:25] <fearnothing> ok, I solved the problem, for some reason the script was unable to see the wine and wineserver files
[20:25] <argon__> zark: I've never had an issue like this myself, but I will try to help you resolve your problem
[20:26] <fearnothing> double clicking on them and then running teamviewer again fixed it
[20:26] <fearnothing> wtf
[20:26] <zark> argon__, that nice from you
[20:27] <SonikkuAmerica> Bashing-om - If only it were available for Android!
[20:27] <argon__> zark: its strange that it doesen't list any graphics driver as loaded
[20:28] <argon__> zark: for me it's i915, toshiba_axpi
[20:28] <argon__> zark: I will be back within 5 minutes, I'm going to test something
[20:29] <zark> ok argon__
[20:30]  * extor is looking for suggestions on how to run a remote X session on a virtual machine, and then VNC to it to use stuff like firefox, openoffice etc
[20:31] <Bashing-om> SonikkuAmerica: Welp .. at least you go where I have never been -> Android ! = nothing ventured, nothing gained -
[20:31] <HackerII> ✔
[20:32] <Slaizer> Hi, I
[20:34] <Slaizer> I've attempted to do step 1.  'Insert the USB device, then run gparted...' at this site: http://askubuntu.com/questions/59551/how-to-burn-a-windows-iso-to-a-usb-device. It burned to pen drive, but no respone on startup.
[20:35] <argon__> zark: can you give me the output of lshw
[20:36] <argon__> zark: grep display (or video) should give you less output
[20:37] <zark> argon__, http://pastebin.com/ZHes4hvH
[20:38] <craptalk> Bashing-om: alright i am trying to fix it?
[20:39] <sureshot> has anyone reverted from 16.04 to 14.04 and for what reason did you do this
[20:40] <Bashing-om> craptalk: Yes ! .. Run the commands as advised ,, and reboot the box to see the effect .
[20:41] <B0g4r7_> I went from 14.04 to 16.04 just as quick as I could (16.04 beta 2) because 16.04 adds support for lvmcache.
[20:41] <B0g4r7_> ...which isn't quite what you asked.
[20:41] <Yojimbo> hey
[20:41] <sureshot> that is good information it helps me alot thanks
[20:41] <argon__> zark: open software & updates in unity and click the tab named "Additional drivers"
[20:42] <B0g4r7_> If I were to revert, it would be to fix how I can't resize some windows now in 16.04 Gnome.
[20:42] <craptalk> Bashing-om: alright
[20:42] <Seveas> sureshot: given that it's incredibly tricky (and I'm not even sure it's really possible) to do such a downgrade, there will be very few people who have done so.
[20:42] <zark> ok  argon__  i have choice between using x.org X server amd ati display driver wrapper from xserver-xorg
[20:42] <sureshot> i am having little problems like not being able to use the software installer to install third party debs
[20:43] <zark> argon__, using video driver for the amd graphics accelerator from fglrx proprietary
[20:43] <Ghostman> test
[20:43] <argon__> which one is currently in use?
[20:43] <Seveas> Ghostman: try ##test :)
[20:43] <zark> the fglrx argon__
[20:43] <sureshot> if i downgrade i will do it from scratch and reinstall fresh it just does not seem as smooth as 14.04
[20:44] <argon__> zark: that's the one that should be in use
[20:44] <zark> argon__, it says the device is using an alternative driver
[20:44] <Ghostman> How do you send a backdoor to the target ?
[20:45] <B0g4r7_> Is this a riddle?
[20:45] <aladiah> some Lubuntu specialist can give me a tip on lubuntu channel please ?
[20:45] <fantomas_> If you have to ask how to do that, Ghostman, you won't be able to.
[20:46] <argon__> zark: okay, so this is beyond me, but you could try to have a look at https://amatijasec.wordpress.com/2014/06/09/ubuntu-14-04-install-amd-radeon-driver/
[20:46] <Ghostman> wow :o
[20:47] <argon__> zark: to update your driver, because it doesen't seem to load your driver properly. Thats why you got vide = 0 with lsmod
[20:47] <Yojimbo> ubuntu 16.04 not booting from usb pls help. 14.04 running but 16.04 not working.
[20:47] <aladiah> Keyboard and mouse has stop work after feew updates lubuntu, please help on LUbuntu channel
[20:47] <zark> argon__, thanks i choose to try xserver xorg drivers
[20:47] <zark> testing
[20:47] <zark> thanks again
[20:47] <sureshot> radeon is funny about installs you have to remove any hint of the driver on the pc befor installing any new drivers i have run into this befor.
[20:47] <argon__> zark: okay, let me know if it works. I'm really curious
[20:48] <Ghostman> ist
[20:48] <Yojimbo> ubuntu 16.04 not booting from usb pls help. 14.04 running but 16.04 not working.
[20:49] <argon__> moldo: you disconnected?
[20:49] <sureshot> Yojimbo please give some time to let people think a minute we also need more info what system hw, bois setting and such
[20:50] <argon__> argon_: I like your name
[20:51] <craptalk> how to configure resolution on my screen?
[20:51] <moldo> no i m here i have 2 computers
[20:51] <craptalk> i reinstalled nvidia driver and my resolution is getting smaller
[20:52] <craptalk> please help
[20:52] <argon__> moldo: what happend when you chose the alternate driver?
[20:53] <sureshot> craptalk have you tried right clicking the little button in the upper left hand corner then system settings then displays ....
[20:53] <moldo> the resolution cant be changed and it doesnt detect the external display argon__
[20:53] <aladiah> anyone else got a laptop where ubuntu stop keyboard stop working
[20:53] <sureshot> right hand corrner sorry
[20:54] <Yojimbo> sureshot msi a68hm-e33 v2, amd a8 7670k. ubuntu 14.04 booting from usb but 16.04 not booting.
[20:54] <argon__> moldo: I belive your best option is to update the driver with the link I sent you
[20:54] <craptalk> sureshot: i did
[20:54] <craptalk> not available for larger scale
[20:54] <craptalk> i dont know why
[20:55] <sureshot> Yojimbo is 16.04 on a different usb drive
[20:56] <Yojimbo> sureshot i did not working
[20:57] <sureshot> you may have to redo the imag on the usb drive. do you use efi bois boot.
[20:57] <Yojimbo> i use mbr
[20:58] <sureshot> Yojimbo so you have the efi bois set to legacy boot
[20:59] <Yojimbo> sureshot legacy boot
[20:59] <Yojimbo> i tried ubuntu 16.04 and xubuntu 16.04 not working
[20:59] <craptalk> i have problem with my graphic card, please how can i fix it?
[21:00] <craptalk> flickering problem
[21:00] <sureshot> in the bois there is secure boot on off i may have used the wrong term turn secure boot off
[21:00] <Yojimbo> sureshot ubuntu 14.04 running
[21:00] <Yojimbo> sureshot 16.04 not working
[21:01] <sureshot> i know are you upgrading which i assumed
[21:01] <sureshot> from 14.04 to 16.04
[21:01] <swordz> Hi. I have done a Bad Thing, and would like some help to undo this. I enabled the pre-release repository, and then updated. I would now like to undo this - but can't seem to work out which packages I need to downgrade, or to which version. Is there a way to see which version is available to install for each package? "apt-cache policy" seems to include the installed version. Or should I just re-install?
[21:02] <Yojimbo> sureshot 14.04 not installed hdd
[21:02] <Slaizer>  I endeavored every suggestion from this site: http://askubuntu.com/questions/59551/how-to-burn-a-windows-iso-to-a-usb-device. Nothing helps. What to do next?
[21:04] <sureshot> Yojimbo sorry the only thing i can tell you from my point of view is to reimage your 16.04 usb drive
[21:05] <Yojimbo> sureshot  I've done many times
[21:05] <sureshot> just a thought are you using 2 different usb drives
[21:06] <Yojimbo> sureshot i used 3 different usb drives
[21:06] <sureshot> will 14.04 boot off any of them
[21:06] <auronandace> verified your 16.04 iso?
[21:06] <EriC^^> swordz: you can get the list of packages it updated from /var/log/apt/history.log
[21:06] <sureshot> auronandace did not think of that
[21:06] <sureshot> thanks
[21:07] <swordz> EriC^^, Thanks! Did not know that file existed...
[21:07] <sonic> im really having issues getting into ubuntu right now all im getting is " the system is running in low graphics mode" i was on earlier but never managed to get anywhere can anyone help?
[21:08] <EriC^^> swordz: if you removed the repo and ran sudo apt-get update, then sudo apt-get install --reinstall <package> it might try to downgrade it, try on one package to see how it goes
[21:09] <Yojimbo> 12.04 running, 14.04 running, 16.04 not running
[21:09] <kabirsingh> any body help me please...when i run this command {sudo dpkg -i } its showing me Dependency error
[21:09] <EriC^^> Yojimbo: give more info
[21:09] <sureshot> EriC^^ thanks i tried sorry
[21:09] <Bashing-om> sonic: termbin the output terminal command ' sudo lshw -C display ' . Let's see what the system thinks for a graphic's driver .
[21:10] <EriC^^> kabirsingh: which file are you trying to install?
[21:10] <kabirsingh> ubuntu-desktop.deb file
[21:10] <EriC^^> what's that?
[21:10] <EriC^^> are you trying to install the ubuntu-desktop package?
[21:10] <kabirsingh> yeh
[21:11] <EriC^^> sudo apt-get install ubuntu-desktop^
[21:11] <Quetonix> What dependencies is it asking for?
[21:11] <EriC^^> probably a crap ton
[21:11] <kabirsingh> this command work properlly ..
[21:11] <swordz> EriC^^, A very good start! But trying with bash-completion (it's towards the end of the list) gives: Reinstallation of bash-completion is not possible, it cannot be downloaded.
[21:12] <swordz> Any quick tips before I spend forever Googling?
[21:12] <kabirsingh> but i want download this packeg form google ..n install it manually
[21:12] <Yojimbo> motherboard: msi a68hm-e33 v2 cpu: a8 7670k
[21:12] <Seveas> kabirsingh: no, you don't.
[21:12] <Yojimbo> EriC^^ motherboard: msi a68hm-e33 v2 cpu: a8 7670k
[21:12] <jinxi> Sysinfo for 'linux-85up': Running inside KDE Plasma 5.6.4 on openSUSE Tumbleweed powered by Linux 4.5.4-1-default, CPU: Intel(R) Core(TM) i5-4670 CPU @ 3.40GHz at 3618-3689/3800 MHz, RAM: 15022/15453 MB, Storage: 70/236 GB, 234 procs, 1.73h up
[21:13] <EriC^^> swordz: maybe you could try to downgrade it using dpkg
[21:13] <auronandace> kabirsingh: it is a meta-package, the point of which is to draw in loads of dependencies
[21:13] <Seveas> swordz: that means there has been an update of that package since you installed it. Just apt-get install bash-completion should do the trick.
[21:13] <EriC^^> Yojimbo: what does it say when you try to boot 16.04
[21:13] <sonic> Bashing-om what part do you want me to tell you its quite a large list
[21:13] <Yojimbo> EriC^^ i see boot screen i selected try ubuntu after a while shut doen monitor
[21:13] <kabirsingh> seveas sir ...i want to ubuntu destop install my another server whithout having internet
[21:14] <Seveas> kabirsingh: then first fix its internet connection, and use apt-get to install it.
[21:14] <EriC^^> !nomodeset | Yojimbo
[21:14] <fearnothing> please can someone recommend to me a GUI app that will play midi files?
[21:14] <k1l> kabirsingh: its just a meta package. you need a lot more packages then
[21:14] <swordz> Seveas - it's probably newer than the version I want due to pre-release (and wanting to remove it)
[21:14] <fearnothing> drumstick doesn't work for me
[21:15] <Seveas> swordz: ah, apt-cache policy bash-completion will tell you the details. You can apt-get install bash-completion-$version_that_actually_exists_in_the_repo
[21:15] <Seveas> fearnothing: timidity perhaps?
[21:15] <kabirsingh> so anybody have any idea how to install any server with gui mood whitout having internet
[21:16] <fearnothing> oh, that has GUI?
[21:16] <EriC^^> swordz: try Seveas ' command sudo apt-get install bash-completion=<version in repos>
[21:16] <fearnothing> I could only find info on CLI for it
[21:16] <EriC^^> swordz: pretty sure dpkg has a downgrade ability in it though
[21:16] <auronandace> !aptoncd | kabirsingh
[21:16] <swordz> It says installed and candidate match, and I'm not sure how to check (manually - i.e. without using my computer which might be lying) what's in the repo. FYI, they both say 1:2.1-4.2ubuntu1.1
[21:16] <aladiah> Why none is heklping on lubuntu ?
[21:16] <k1l> !offline | kabirsingh
[21:17] <aladiah> !keyboard
[21:18] <swordz> OK, maybe bash-completion was updated at the same time but not from the pre-release...
[21:18] <sonic> Bashing-on http://termbin.com/c9vf
[21:18] <sureshot> good bye all off to netflix movies
[21:19] <Bashing-om> sonic: We are back to using termbin to see all that large output . ' sudo lshw -C display | nc termbin.com 9999 ' . As simple as that .
[21:20] <cliffer1> where is the login shell set for a user?
[21:20] <EriC^^> cliffer1: /etc/passwd
[21:20] <cliffer1> and if nothing is set there?
[21:20] <EriC^^> no login i guess
[21:21] <sonic> Bashing-om http://termbin.com/c9vf
[21:21] <EriC^^> what's your actual problem
[21:21] <cliffer1> EriC^^: one user can log in, the other one cant :)
[21:21] <cliffer1> both user have no shell set
[21:22] <EriC^^> cliffer1: they can't login via tty?
[21:22] <Seveas> cliffer1: 'no shell set' doesn't happen by accident. Pastebin the actual /etc/passwd lines for those users
[21:22] <Bashing-om> sonic: :) .. Well, the 'radeon' driver is loaded . Let's say it is a user's config issue in your /home .. What does the display look like in the guest account ?
[21:23] <swordz> EriC^^, Seveas, I think I'm there! Having not seen it before I didn't understand the format of the apt history file - but it contains the old version in it! So, magic sed script to get the correct command line for apt, and that should work!
[21:23] <cliffer1> omg sry, i was looking in shadow :(
[21:24] <Seveas> cliffer1: doh :P
[21:25] <sonic> Bashing-om i dont know it wont even let me onto that screen i get that message as soon as i boot into ubuntu
[21:26] <kabirsingh> okay thanx
[21:27] <Bashing-om> sonic: What Desktop Environment is this ' echo $DESKTOP_SESSION " " $XDG_CURRENT_DESKTOP ' . So we know what it takes to activate the guest account from the login screen .
[21:27] <aladiah> Hey sorry typping here none helping on lubuntu channel . Lubuntu 15.10  keyboard and mouse stop work  and it use to on laptop dual boot windows 10. it works on windows. I tryed start with a usb lubuntu persistent 15.10 and 16.x  but it dont work as well. they are perfect installations with md5sum checked and they work on another laptop and use to on this one as well. Funny thing is that key...
[21:27] <aladiah> ...to switch on and switch off screen work !
[21:28] <kabirsingh> sir one more thing when i use su command then ask me password when i put the password its says authencation fail...
[21:28] <aladiah> ctrl + alt +F1 dont solve it.
[21:28] <OerHeks> aladiah, sounds like windows 10 is shutdown in fastboot. that could disable important features.
[21:29] <cliffer1> why cant user b login: http://pastebin.com/uXaRYv3F ? because its id is < 1000?
[21:29] <EriC^^> kabirsingh: are you trying to get a root shell?
[21:29] <kabirsingh> yes..
[21:30] <EriC^^> cliffer1: does the user have a password set in /etc/shadow?
[21:30] <k1l> !sudo | kabirsingh
[21:30] <EriC^^> kabirsingh: use sudo -i
[21:30] <rffleaie> i want to create my own mail server. what is the best open product?
[21:30] <cliffer1> EriC^^: no, just a authorized_keys file in /var/www/vhosts/b/.ssh
[21:30] <kabirsingh> okay thanku sir
[21:31] <sonic> Bashing-om i just tried both commands and it didnt work
[21:31] <Seveas> rffleaie: postfix and exim are the most commonly used ones on Ubuntu for smtp. Dovecot and cyrus for imap. Mailman for mailinglists.
[21:31] <rffleaie> i have many external mailbox and i want retrive the mail vi pop3
[21:31] <kabirsingh> woow its working thank u one again
[21:32] <kabirsingh> Mr.Eric ,....Thanks
[21:32] <Bashing-om> sonic: The commands were to KNOW the DE, they serve no other purpose . show the ooutputs here in channel of " echo $DESKTOP_SESSION " " $XDG_CURRENT_DESKTOP " so we can give advise .
[21:37] <sonic> Bashing-om ive tried them a few times and all its done is put me down to the next command line
[21:42] <Bashing-om> sonic: That does not parse . I have no context of "all its done is put me down to the next command line " . If you are in a shell ( command line interface ) ar a prompt somilar " sysop@1404mini:~$ " where sysop is my host name, and 1404mini is the system name. Then the command ' echo $DESKTOP_SESSION " " $XDG_CURRENT_DESKTOP ' will have a return like unto >> xfce   XFCE . Where I am using xfce as my DE .
[21:44] <raul782> Hi guys, after upgrade to 16.04, I can't access internet, any advice to solve this issue?
[21:45] <raul782> I've rebooted and tried to restart network-manager, I've changed the IP to manual and DNS 8.8.8.8 but no luck
[21:45] <Ben64> how do you connect to the internet
[21:46] <raul782_> sorry got disconnected
[21:47] <Ben64> raul782_: how do you connect to the internet
[21:47] <raul782_> another laptop
[21:47] <zark> hello guys, i have some trouble with my ubuntu 14.04 dual screen system. it doesnt detect in the settings / display the second monitor
[21:47] <Ben64> no... on the computer you're talking about
[21:47] <raul782_> Ben64: I have a desktop with ubuntu and a laptop with internet
[21:47] <Ben64> ...
[21:49] <raul782_> Base64: ah sorry, using a wired connection
[21:49] <raul782_> ethernet cable, with a fixed IP
[21:50] <raul782_> I switched from managed IP since, I though that could be the issue
[21:51] <zark> hello, i have trouble with my display i have 2 screens a laptop and a lcd screen. on the laptop it display ubuntu but when you go on the left of the desk the display extend to my lcd screen and show a blackwhite cross . how do i set this display to be the main screen ?
[21:52] <raul782_> Is there a way to check if the my eth0 has been recognized?
[21:52] <Bashing-om> sonic: Did I loosse you ?
[21:52] <zerothis> i'm trying to compile Moria from source (via apt-build). there's no configure to run. "make" finds no targets
[21:52] <sonic> Bashing-on i have to press ctrl alt f1 when i boot in is this the same terminal your thinking of? and ive tried them again and all ive got is >
[21:53] <zark> how do i set my second display to show the desk ubuntu ?
[21:55] <raul782_> just checked the sudo service network-manager status and and so far it tells me that device (eth0) link connected
[21:55] <raul782_> I see that the dnsmasq using nameserver 8.8.8.8 is there
[21:55] <Bashing-om> sonic: Yes . that is a "console" but will serve the exact same purpose . Tou should have a login pronpt . login with username and password ( no response to the screen when password is entered ) .. the console awaits the next terminal command at a prompt . yes ?
[21:56] <raul782_> what else can I do to diagnostic the issue with my network ?
[21:56] <Bashing-om> Tou/You*
[21:56] <raul782_> when I try to ping to my router, I get a destination host unreachable
[21:58] <sonic> Bashing-om yes it  does, would you be able to write it like you would in the terminal, that might work better for me
[21:59] <zark> how do i push the system to show my LCD monitor in all settings / displays in ubuntu 14.04
[21:59] <zark> ?
[22:00] <Bashing-om> sonic: I have 3 times now ' in terminal exactly ' echo $DESKTOP_SESSION " " $XDG_CURRENT_DESKTOP ' . The quote marks (') not a part of the command sequence . the quotes marks are to show this as a "command sequence" . Make sense now ?
[22:01] <fearnothing> ok, the GUIs for Timidity are crap
[22:01] <fearnothing> Muse on the other hand looks pretty good
[22:02] <gambl0re> one of my applications isnt reposnding how do i force close
[22:02] <fearnothing> if I could just get it to output MIDI correclt
[22:02] <fearnothing> correctly*
[22:02] <\9> gambl0re: alt+f2, type xkill, you'll get a kill cursor, click on the misbehaving application with it
[22:03] <\9> alternatively, you can go to a commandline and write killall -9 <processname>
[22:05] <gambl0re> ok i did what you said, it seemed to have killed all my running applications
[22:05] <gambl0re> it even logged me out
[22:05] <gebbione> any idea if 4.1.21.armada.1 compares in any way with ubuntu/debian?
[22:06] <\9> gambl0re: you sure you didn't kill the desktop with it?
[22:06] <gambl0re> well i clicked on the application in the taskbar
[22:06] <gambl0re> if you know what i mean
[22:07] <sonic> Bashing-on sorry for being a pain so im  writing, echo $DESKTOP_SESSION   $XDG_CURRENT_DESKTOP. in the one line right?
[22:07] <zark> i have to fix my problem :)
[22:08] <\9> gambl0re: well then you killed the taskbar, and with that your desktop and everything else
[22:08] <Bashing-om> sonic: Let me reboot into terminal .. and I will verify ,.. I can accept that if no DeskTop is activated perhaps no output ? // Yes that is one sequence .
[22:08] <\9> gambl0re: you need to click on the actual window
[22:08] <\9> gambl0re: if there is no window then you'll have to use killall
[22:08] <gambl0re> my window wasn't responding
[22:08] <\9> but you could at least bring it up?
[22:08] <gambl0re> i dont know how to describe it
[22:09] <gambl0re> i click on the application in the taskabar and it seems like it's supposed to be showing but it isn't it's just blank
[22:09] <michael33> drag n drop isnt working on ubuntu 16 with neither vmware nor vbox?
[22:09] <gambl0re> but anyways, thanks
[22:10] <\9> gambl0re: you still got at least something that was supposed to be a window, even though it wasn't responding? you can use xkill on that
[22:11] <cyanterry> hello
[22:16] <katie1231> Hey guys I'd like to allocate space for a swap partition, since I chose not to do so during install. Can I do this now?
[22:20] <moldo> katie1231,  yes partition magic
[22:21] <katie1231> moldo, When i set up my drive i allocated all 250gb, will i need to resize on of those?
[22:23] <moldo> katie1231, it depends you dont need a lot for the swap partition i think 2-10 % is enought
[22:23] <squinty> katie1231,  boot from your live dvd/usb and the use gparted to shrink/add partition
[22:25] <katie1231> squinty, would it be better to just set up a swap file on a current partition instead?
[22:26] <squinty> katie1231, never used a swap file so really can't answer that question with any definite certainty
[22:27] <Bashing-om> sonic: Yeah ! I have mislead you .. IF no GUI is started there is no environment . the result of ' echo $DESKTOP_SESSION " " $XDG_CURRENT_DESKTOP ' is only a return to prompt . Will have to come up with another means to know what your DE is .
[22:28] <sonic> Bashing-on so what do i do know
[22:32] <Bashing-om> sonic: Well,, you know more now than 3 hours agao ... what returns ' ls -al /usr/share/xsessions | nc termbin.com 9999 ; cat /etc/X11/default-display-manager | nc termbin.com 9999 ' ?
[22:32] <EmeraldExplorer> I am trying to fix my server that didn't reboot after trying to do grub-update when following this tutorial: http://www.kiloroot.com/switch-to-standard-ubuntu-kernel-on-ovh-or-kimsufi-servers/ Now, I am in emergency mode and I have tried to move the 06_OVHkernel back to its default location. However, I am still getting this error when booting:
[22:32] <EmeraldExplorer> http://pastebin.com/SXHqvNc1
[22:34] <sonic> Bashing-on so would you like me to termbin these?
[22:34] <raul782_> Hi guys. I've tried many things to re-gain internet access to my newly upgraded ubuntu 16.04 but no luck
[22:34] <raul782_> What advice you can suggest to troubleshoot the issue?
[22:35] <Bashing-om> sonic: Uh Huh .. that " | nc termbin.com 9999 " will do that .. just pass the URL back here .
[22:36] <raul782_> while It looks like I'm connected to the network, when I try to ping the router, it says destination host unreachable, what can I do to troubleshoot this pfirst part
[22:36] <Bashing-om> raul782_: A fresh clean install, this bug I think still applies : https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/appstream/+bug/1579712 .
[22:37] <Slaizer> mounted windows 10, made it NTFS and boot, copied files to pendrive, started on one computer but not the other at startup. What is the the cause?
[22:39] <Ben64> Slaizer: ask ##windows ?
[22:39] <raul782_> Bashin-om: what this has to do with a network connection problem?
[22:40] <raul782_> Bashing-om: ^^
[22:40] <Bashing-om> raul782_: This : http://askubuntu.com/questions/771627/14-04-network-manager-stopped-working/771841#771841 is the easier solution, in ny humble opinion .
[22:40] <sonic> Bashing-on http//:termbin.com/rnh9 & http//:termbin.com/t39p
[22:40] <Bashing-om> raul782_: Networking is broke .
[22:41] <raul782_> Bashing-om: really? that's a critical issue. does that happen to anybody upgrading from 14.04
[22:41] <raul782_> ?
[22:43] <Bashing-om> raul782_: It did for a day . fix is released . But on a fresh install from an .iso before the fix .. ya got a problem .
[22:43] <Bashing-om> sonic: Your Links do not resolve . looking to see why .
[22:44]  * johndoe__ 
[22:45] <squinty> Bashing-om,  fwiw, his links come up fine here
[22:46] <Bashing-om> squinty: Thenals ! he has // and : reversed :)
[22:46] <LtL> sonic: your links need http:// not http//: fyi
[22:46] <Bashing-om> thanks ! **
[22:47] <sonic> Bashing-on i wrote it wrong http://termbin.com/rnh9 & http://termbin.com/t39p ...my bad
[22:48] <squinty> Bashing-om,  oh lol  didn't even notice that.  click on them and they still both open in firefox here
[22:50] <Bashing-om> sonic: Got it .. I fingered it out .. OK .. running unity as the Desktop Environment . At the login screen you should have the option of " guest account " . At that point no upper level graphics driver is started . Now when selecting to start the guest account .. do you then get to a good GUI ?
[22:51] <Bashing-om> squinty: In google-chrome I got " This site can’t be reached " for the reversed syntax .
[22:52] <squinty> Bashing-om, hmmm...interesting.  thanks for pointing that out :-)
[22:54] <Bashing-om> squinty: All a process of learning .If ya familiar with unity/lightdm .. hang in here with me .. radeon misbehaving on 16.04 .. A lot I do not know about lightdm . Xorg log file and lshw show no problems .
[22:55] <raul782_> bashing-om: thanks a lot, that link worked :)
[22:56] <sonic> Bashing-on that my problem i cant even get to the login screen, it litteraly put me on the screen that i told you about and wont budge from there. the only menu i can access if the GNU GRUB
[22:56] <Bashing-om> raul782_: Put up a gold star for me ? I kinda thought that might still be an issue on a old .iso image .
[22:58] <Bashing-om> sonic: Ouch ! .. as another poke . What about the recovery kernel - selected from the grub boot menu ? Here in recovery, degraded graphics is acceptable, just want to know that you can boot to the GUI .
[22:58]  * fergal32 waves hello
[23:03] <thinky> hi
[23:03] <thinky> is it possible to change real name in ubuntu ? not the one in terminal, i mean the one appears in login menu
[23:05] <sonic> Bashing-on so im on the recovery menu now and it just came up something about emergency mode then went back to the recovery screen, next move?
[23:06] <Bashing-om> thinky: http://askubuntu.com/questions/34074/how-do-i-change-my-username .... looks promising .
[23:06] <thinky> Bashing-om: thank you it was easy than i thought lol
[23:07] <thinky> good night
[23:07] <Bashing-om> thinky: It's 'buntu ; If it is hard you are doing something wrong .
[23:08] <Rabbitnightmare> Bashing-om: well it is true, if it is hard it isn't worth doing anymore
[23:08] <Bashing-om> sonic: Is this a fresh install of 16.04 ? or something break in an update ??
[23:09] <Bashing-om> Rabbitnightmare: Homework ! .. find the right way ??
[23:10] <Gin> Hi there, trying to boot my computer with a 16.04 live usb, Problem is the installation hangs with a cursor blinking on the right screen, not booting any further. Adding nomodeset flag while booting completes the boot, tho at 800x600 resolution and unity sidebar not showing. Any ideas whats causing this, other then the dual screen settings?
[23:11] <sonic> Bashing-on its dual booted from a usb i done it a few days ago and it was working fine, nothing bad that i could see
[23:11] <Gin> Dont dare to proceed with the installation, since Im not sure if I can get the dual monitor/gfx card to work after I do :/
[23:11] <Bashing-om> Gin: Nvidia graphics ? .. maybe load up the proprietary driver suitable for the GPU ? one thought .
[23:11] <Gin> Sonic, I'm lead to belive that its due to me having dual gfx setup
[23:12] <Gin> Bashing-om: running both nvidia and intel graphics simultainously
[23:12] <Rabbitnightmare> Gin: configuring SLI on Linux is not impossible, but it is far harder than it needs to be
[23:12] <Gin> Rabbitnightmare: it's not SLI it's dual graphics cards (not same brand/type SLI)
[23:13] <Bashing-om> Gin: In the install .. install the proprietary driver, and the controler nvidia-prime will also be installed .
[23:13] <Gin> Bashing-om: is it possible to try out on the live media?
[23:14] <Rabbitnightmare> sounds like a difficult setup
[23:14] <Gin> Rabbitnightmare: not really ;) only problem getting past the installation
[23:15] <Bashing-om> Gin: Yes .. but unless a USB with persistence, will not persist a reboot . .
[23:15] <Rabbitnightmare> have you tried removing one of the video cards until the setup is done then, trying the drivers post installation
[23:15] <sonic> Bashing-on will i need to reinstall ubuntu?
[23:16] <Gin> Rabbitnightmare: no, I have not tried the installation with one graphics card only (the installation would ofcourse work). I intend to use the machine with qemu hardware acceleration with full access to my main gfxcard, so I need to know it would work on before hand. Thus Im here :)
[23:17] <Bashing-om> sonic: Are "you" authorized to access your desktop ' ls -al /Xauthority ; ls -al /ICEauthority ' ? my return : " -rw------- 1 sysop sysop 209 Feb  4  2015 .Xauthority " where I am sysop .
[23:19] <Bashing-om> Gin: Pastebin - lspci -k | grep -EA2 'VGA|3D' - let's us know what the hardware is and from that we match a graphic's driver .
[23:20] <Gin> Bashing-om: Im on windows atm so it wouldnt work. I can say I have a EVGA GTX 980ti combined with a Intel HD 530 tho
[23:21] <sonic> Bashing-on i tried that command an got nothing, i dont know :(
[23:22] <Gin> Not sure if you got the part, even when using nomodeset to boot, Unity displays no sidebars/menu and or icons
[23:23] <Gin> and Im stuck with 800x600 res
[23:24] <Gin> using uvesafb makes unity hang
[23:25] <Bashing-om> Gin: Are you a gammer ? Nvidia recommends the 361 version driver . The gamers seem to prefer the 364 version . I do not know that the 364 is available in other than our trusted PPA .
[23:26] <Bashing-om> sonic: This is getting stranger all the time .. what results ' ls -al /home ' ?
[23:27] <Gin> Bashing-om: Im you like titles I guess you could say I am, not soley tho, the intention was to get a working solution where I could use qemu for gaming, rather then rebooting all the time I want to use apps only availible to windows, like certain games, sketch up etc
[23:27] <raul782> Bashing-om: done, thanks again :)
[23:27] <moldo> what is the root password by default on unbuntu 14.04 ?
[23:27] <Gin> that made no sense at all, You could say I am a gamer :D
[23:28] <Bashing-om> raul782: You do good work . Keep on keep'n on :)
[23:29] <squinty> moldo, there is no root password.
[23:29] <sonic> Bashing-om total 12. drwxr-xr-x 3 root        root     4096 ...it does another 3 of these but the last one uses my username
[23:30] <moldo> squinty, on recorvery mode
[23:30] <squinty> moldo, if you are admin then use your user password
[23:30] <Bashing-om> Gin: That is a bleeding edge card .. I would think that once the system (16.04 ! ) is installed and the 364 driver and the nvidia-prome controller is installed . will be fine .
[23:30] <Bashing-om> prime*
[23:31] <moldo> squinty doesnt work
[23:32] <Bashing-om> sonic: show me that in the termbin.com site, please .
[23:32] <Gin> Bashing-om: it not that new is it, Im proceeding with the installation and will be back after then.
[23:33] <squinty> !root | moldo
[23:34] <Bashing-om> Gin: To linux .. the 900 series is new(er) . We have to play catchup .
[23:36] <sonic> Bashing-on http://termbin.com/d649
[23:37] <Bashing-om> sonic: it is ... om ... else I can easily miss your response . look'n .
[23:38] <Bashing-om> sonic: So far so good .. what now ' ls -al /home/psykosonic ' in the termbin .
[23:39] <Bashing-om> !tab | sonic
[23:41] <alaska47> hi
[23:42] <sonic> Bashing-on http://termbin.com/3z71
[23:44] <squinty> 404 here
[23:47] <squinty> sonic:  try again    ls -al /home/psykosonic | nc termbin.com 9999
[23:49] <Bashing-om> sonic: Bashing-on [23:49] <sonic> http://termbin.com/v26x
[23:51] <moldo> thanks for the link squinty
[23:52] <squinty> moldo,  yw :-)
[23:52] <sonic> Bashing-om http://termbin.com/v26x sorry man
[23:53] <moldo> i have a trouble with my second display which is not recognized by the settings
[23:54] <moldo> it s a laptop with a vga external display
[23:54] <moldo> how can i set ubuntu to recognize the vga display ?
[23:56] <moldo> help :-) please
[23:57] <JanC> moldo: it's not recognized when you go to the display settings?
[23:57] <t00lman> moldo, google: xrandr
[23:57] <Bashing-om> sonic: You are authorized to access your desktop .. so why is it not starting ?.. let's try this .. reboot to the grub screen, 'e' key for edit mode -> Grub boot parameters. Here arrow down to the line starting with linux, and across to 'quiet splash' remove these terms and all after and insert " systemd.unit=multi-user.target " with out the quotes . Key combo ctl+x to continue the boot process to TTY1 . Log in here . and we start lightdm from h
[23:57] <moldo> the external display works but in settings i dont see the external screen just the main display
[23:58] <JanC> so it shows the same as the internal display?
[23:58] <moldo> and when i move the mouse to the external screen it s all black and there is a different cursor which is a cross
[23:58] <JanC> oh
[23:58] <TheMarius> http://appimage.org/ <- interesting ....
[23:58] <TheMarius> sandboxed apps
[23:59] <JanC> moldo: what GPU(s) does that laptop have?
[23:59] <TheMarius> something for ubuntu devs to take a look at reg snappy packages
[23:59] <moldo> the gpu is a ati 7660m
[23:59] <TheMarius> maybe marry with appimage