[04:47] <valorie> !ninjas
[04:48] <ScottK> That kind of needs updating.
[04:48] <valorie> if we want that factoid updated, we need only ask in #ubuntu-ops
[04:48]  * valorie is busy all day tomorrow with my daddy's memorial service
[04:49] <ScottK> My condolences.  Good luck with the service.
[04:49] <valorie> thank you ScottK
[04:49] <valorie> dad was 89, so it wasn't a shock
[04:50] <valorie> happy for him, actually, but still generally just sad and tired
[10:09] <yossarianuk> hi - just tried the 16.04 backports PPA (plasma 5.6.4) - have to say its excellent, seems snappier.
[10:09] <yossarianuk> Also fixed this network-manager bug -> https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/networkmanager-qt/+bug/1569674
[10:09] <yossarianuk> so know I can change network settings without getting a 'set property: value "18454592" of type 'guint' is invalid or out of range for property 'gateway-ping-timeout' of type 'guint'' error
[10:10] <yossarianuk> however there is one other bug as a result.
[10:10] <yossarianuk> I now cannot see my bridge settings in the network-manager gui
[10:10] <yossarianuk> i.e my bridge interface (br0) is not there
[10:10] <yossarianuk> I can see it using nmtui though (and its wrking)
[10:49] <BluesKaj> howdy all
[10:56] <Mirv> FYI qtchooser got autosynced from Debian and broke the world (tm)
[10:56] <Mirv> fixed qtbase and qt4-x11 in yakkety-proposed
[10:56] <Mirv> (qtchooser did stay in proposed too so no problem as such for any users)
[11:11] <bshah> Hello people, any plan to have Qt 5.6 in kubuntu any soon?
[11:12] <yossarianuk> bshah: I think you will have more luck with neon
[11:12] <bshah> well, I know about neon
[11:14] <davmor2> bshah: yakkety has 5.5.1 no idea if that will be the final or not though
[11:14] <bshah> xenial also have 5.5.1
[11:17] <davmor2> bshah: Might be underway currently Mirv ^
[11:19] <Mirv> bshah: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Touch/QtTesting but it will be nearer the feature freeze. I'll be away and also in general there are lots of hurdles before everything is 100% perfect (starting with waiting for 5.6.1)
[11:19] <Mirv> but yes certainly 5.6 will eventually be in yakkety
[11:19] <bshah> okay
[11:20] <davmor2> Mirv: thanks dude :)
[11:44] <acheron88> hmmm https://mail.kde.org/pipermail/plasma-devel/2016-May/053331.html
[11:44] <soee_> yofel: so what are our plans for the future? Since Plasma 5.7 will require QT 5.6.1 and we don't have it :)
[11:45] <soee_> Mirv: are there any plans to backport QT 5.6 to Xenial ?
[11:46] <bshah> he mentioned few minutes before: 16:47 <Mirv> bshah: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Touch/QtTesting but it will be nearer the feature freeze. I'll be away and also in general there are lots of hurdles before everything is 100% perfect (starting with waiting for 5.6.1)
[11:47] <soee_> bshah: ah i didn't look into this link
[11:47] <Mirv> all Critical or High bugs need to be fixed in other packages before Qt 5.6 can go in https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/+bugs?field.tag=qt5.6 - hopefully 5.6.1 would help fixing some too
[11:49] <Mirv> Qt 5.6 is likely landing to yakkety only around end of July
[12:19] <clivejo> !info libical2
[12:25] <clivejo> yofel: ping
[13:11] <clivejo> hi marco-parillo
[13:11] <marco-parillo> Hi Clive.
[13:12] <marco-parillo> Hi clivejo 
[13:13] <clivejo> how are you?
[13:14] <marco-parillo> Can
[13:15] <marco-parillo> Can't complain (well, I could, but nobody likes a complainer).
[13:59] <clivejo> stupid hash mismatch
[14:04] <yofel> clivejo: hm?
[14:05] <clivejo> hi yofel, how are you?
[14:05] <yofel> not particulary great, but alive
[14:06] <clivejo> still not feeling well?
[14:06] <yofel> nope
[14:07] <clivejo> :(
[14:07] <clivejo> did you see your GP?
[14:08] <yofel> yes, but that resulted in "here are some tips on what to do + don't feel down and you'll feel better eventually" - yaaay. Need to visit him again this week
[14:09] <clivejo> yeah like dont feel down is a cure for it
[14:20] <clivejo> these apps are driving me libkf5insane
[14:24] <clivejo> The following packages have unmet dependencies.
[14:24] <clivejo>  korganizer : Depends: libkf5mailcommon-plugins but it is not going to be installed
[14:24] <clivejo>               Depends: libkf5mailcommon5 (>= 4:15.12) but it is not going to be installed
[14:42] <BluesKaj> clivejo, assume you did the std -f and dpkg commads ?
[14:49] <BluesKaj> clivejo, sudo dpkg --configure -a, then sudo apt -f install, if that doesn't work then to remove the depencies run, sudo dpkg --remove --force-depends nameofpackage(s)
[17:47] <clivejo> unstable_akonadi, now there are two words made to go together
[17:49] <acheron88> its one reason I kill the thing about 30s after completing any install :P
[17:51] <clivejo> unfortunately its part of KDE release and needs packaged/supported :(
[18:13] <clivejo> going round and round in circles
[18:16] <clivejo> anyone know their stuff about package installation could help me with apps 16.04.1?
[18:16] <clivejo> on yakkety
[18:17] <acheron88> installation?
[18:17] <clivejo> I cant see the problem for looking at it :(
[18:17] <clivejo> yeah, kmail wont install
[18:18] <clivejo> acheron88: fancy being my rubber duck?
[18:21] <acheron88> rubber duck?
[18:21] <clivejo> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rubber_duck_debugging
[18:21]  * acheron88 not getting the bath
[18:21] <acheron88> lol
[18:21]  * clivejo makes room in the bath
[18:22] <acheron88> so you want someone to try installing kmail from the apps ppa?
[18:23] <clivejo> yes and talk me through it
[18:23] <acheron88> just updating my yakkety VM first
[18:24] <clivejo> take a clone, just in case
[18:24] <clivejo> Im not having very good day on Yakkety
[18:24] <clivejo> lost my screen locker too
[18:25] <acheron88> ok. up to date and snapshot of current state taken
[18:26] <acheron88> staging-kdeapplications?
[18:27] <clivejo> yup
[18:28] <acheron88> with that enabled I have these as immediately upgradeable http://paste.ubuntu.com/16640129/
[18:29] <clivejo> keep an eye on libkf5messagecore5
[18:30] <acheron88> and you want kmail? if so, not a good start http://paste.ubuntu.com/16640193/
[18:30] <clivejo> yes, thats what Im getting
[18:31] <clivejo> libical2 is in proposed
[18:31] <acheron88> so enable proposed?
[18:31] <clivejo> but I cant get my head around why the others arent able to install
[18:33] <acheron88> just enabling prosoded to get rid of that prob
[18:35] <clivejo> when I trace is back manually I come to libkf5messagecore5
[18:35] <clivejo> but when I install that it says
[18:35] <clivejo> libkf5messagecore5 is already the newest version (4:16.04.1-0ubuntu1~ubuntu16.10~ppa2).
[18:35] <clivejo> Im missing something and cant seem to find it
[18:36] <acheron88> http://paste.ubuntu.com/16640365/
[18:39] <clivejo> acheron88: can you see the problem?
[18:39] <acheron88> so one dep is breaking installation of another?
[18:40] <clivejo> I dont know, I cant spot the problem
[18:41] <acheron88> sudo apt install kf5-messagelib-data libkf5messageviewer5
[18:41] <acheron88> just that fails ^^^
[18:42] <clivejo> ahhh
[18:43] <clivejo> I added that
[18:43] <clivejo> https://git.launchpad.net/~kubuntu-packagers/kubuntu-packaging/+git/messagelib/commit/?h=kubuntu_yakkety_archive&id=c5be87f3cf348016f75dff5de1c3612af760b2bd
[18:43] <clivejo> I need to add the version
[18:44] <acheron88> ok. I don't know my way around the PIM libs, so I'll take your word for it...
[18:44] <clivejo> LOL neither do I
[18:46] <acheron88> has that helped?
[18:54] <clivejo> !info libkf5messageviewer5
[18:57] <acheron88> back later...
[20:08] <clivejo> grrrr
[20:09] <clivejo> where has akonadictl gone
[20:42] <clivejo> acheron88: can you do an apt update and reinstall please?
[20:43] <acheron88> one sec
[20:48] <acheron88> seems to have gone ok http://paste.ubuntu.com/16643135/
[20:51] <clivejo> acheron88: :)
[20:51] <clivejo> can you open kontact?
[20:54] <acheron88> it runs. complains about akonadi
[20:54] <soee> hiho
[20:57] <clivejo> yeah, here too
[20:57]  * clivejo kicks akonadi
[20:58] <clivejo> acheron88: what does akonadictl status say?
[20:59] <acheron88> tried to run akonadictl. apt tells me to install akonadi-server package, which is already installed!
[21:00] <clivejo> grrrrr
[21:00] <clivejo> its in libkf5akonadi-dev-bin
[21:00] <clivejo> why have they moved everything about 
[21:01] <clivejo> cant find anything!
[21:04] <acheron88> akonaki won't start http://paste.ubuntu.com/16643436/
[21:05] <clivejo> acheron88: is libkf5akonadiserver-dev installed?
[21:06] <clivejo> Im going to restart, I might not be back !
[21:07] <tsdgeos> yofel: lots of kdegames packages miss a dep on qml-module-org-kde-games-core
[21:08] <tsdgeos> i guess you don't have an automatic qml dependency parser
[21:08] <tsdgeos> or maybe not
[21:08] <tsdgeos> ignore me
[21:09] <acheron88> clivejo: nope, and libkf5akonadiserver-dev will pull in 124 mostly -dev packages
[21:10] <clivejo> oh great
[21:11] <clivejo> kontact crashes on boot
[21:11] <clivejo> or login in
[21:11] <clivejo> stack smashing detected
[21:11] <clivejo> I know Id like to smash something right now
[21:12] <clivejo> yet its popping up new email
[21:13] <acheron88> just restarting that VM here
[21:14] <clivejo> korganiser is crashing too
[21:14] <clivejo> same thing stack smashing detected
[21:19] <acheron88> not sure about getting those errors, but it certainly isn't working
[21:20] <clivejo> try installing that dev package and rebooting
[21:20] <acheron88> this from akonadi's assisant wotsit http://paste.ubuntu.com/16643661/
[21:20] <clivejo> Ive got akonadi up and running now
[21:21] <acheron88> OK
[21:22] <acheron88> installing and will reboot
[21:25] <acheron88> akonadi running
[21:26] <clivejo> so I need to make a depend on that package :/
[21:26] <clivejo> I dont understand why its even in there!
[21:27] <clivejo> should be a -bin package or something
[21:27] <acheron88> a dev package to make a core PIM service run is just mad
[21:29] <clivejo> acheron88: do you know much about apparmor?
[21:30] <acheron88> I know aproximately what it is.... and that's about it
[21:30] <acheron88> so nope
[21:30] <clivejo> do you know how to test if its interfering with a program execution?
[21:31] <acheron88> afraid not.
[21:31] <clivejo> one of the kontact devs think my crashes are to do with apparmor
[21:34] <acheron88> would not know where to start to be honest
[21:40] <clivejo> I dont know enough to fix this
[21:40] <mparillo> Has anybody tried to install YY recently? I got a ubi-console-setup failed with exit code 1
[21:42] <acheron88> tried the other day with daily iso and couldn't install either 
[21:44] <clivejo> !info libKF5CalendarCore
[21:44] <clivejo> !info libKF5CalendarCore-dev
[22:43] <jimarvan> heya :)
[22:44] <clivejo> hi jimarvan
[23:17]  * clivejo gives up