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pc_hi, how to solve the tearing monitor problem?03:55
pc_hi, how to solve the tearing monitor problem?03:56
Watneyhello04:37
Watneyis anyone active?04:38
Blackislemark watney? are you irc'ing from mars? o.O08:04
darrel_hey08:08
mate|59454why am I right here ? Seems to be lost, lol08:12
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maximusHallo! No update for Ubuntu Mate 16.06 to Mate 1.14?13:04
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Guest91378any ideas why ubuntu mate only works when plugged in?13:06
Guest91378:(13:07
gordonjcpGuest91378: because13:14
maximussomebody should think that ubuntu mare without updates for mate is not an lts system. why is so difficult to update?! are we in the 90th?13:22
othniel_hi guys would u recommend ubuntu mate for a noob?15:08
othniel_like me ?15:08
OerHekslets say no: you will try anyway :-D15:08
othniel_imcurrently using manjaro15:09
othniel_lol u ryt OerHeks15:09
Blackisleothniel_: yes, more stable and more likely to "just work" than Manjaro15:17
Blackisletaking nothing away from manjaro though15:18
Blackisleit is a fantastic distro15:18
Blackislebut it benefits from a little experience due to it's rapid software updates15:18
ubuntu-matehey there16:05
ouroumovhey ubuntu-mate16:06
ubuntu-mateI running ubuntu-mate off the cd, wanted to test it out before i install and replace my windows 10 but the sound does not seam to coming out from speakers, it does on the headphones.. wh is this ?16:07
ouroumovMaybe your speakers aren't detected cause they need specific drivers.16:08
ouroumovDid you go to sound settings already?16:08
ubuntu-mateyes, yes I did16:08
ouroumovIn the hardware tab, how many interfaces show up?16:08
ubuntu-mateit says in the hardware, built in audio, 1 output / 1 input, analague sterio output16:09
ouroumovOkay16:09
ubuntu-matei plug headphones it and I get sound, unplug them and no sound16:10
ouroumovOh16:10
ouroumovMaybe the sound applet goes on mute when you unplug?16:10
ouroumovDo you have hotkeys to mute/unmute the sound on your machine?16:11
ouroumovOn mine it's Fn+F316:11
ubuntu-mateyes16:11
ubuntu-matelet me try them..16:11
ubuntu-matethank you for your help ouroumov, its great that you here to help newbies into linux16:12
ouroumovnp16:13
ubuntu-mateits unmuted, volume is on full but there is no sound16:13
ouroumovOkay16:13
ouroumovSo16:13
ouroumovI can't promise you you're gonna have sound once it's installed, however there is something to do after install that'll improve your chances.16:14
ouroumovSee the Welcome Splash screen? It'll still be there after you install and reboot into your system, but it will be a little different.16:14
ubuntu-mateis that where i install drivers..16:14
ouroumovThere will be a "Getting Started" button that'll lead you through post-install updates and driver + firmware install16:15
ubuntu-mateaaah yes i saw that in one of the videos..16:16
ouroumovOkay, so once you've installed, do that first thing and you'll know16:16
ouroumovSorry mate but I gotta disconnect and hop on the Bus home from work16:16
ubuntu-mateyeah but is it worth the risk, Ive got a full licensed windows 10\16:16
ubuntu-mateokay take care16:16
ubuntu-matenice one16:16
ubuntu-matewish you all the best16:16
ouroumovIf you have more questions, feel free to ask them, but you might have to be patient. ^^16:17
ubuntu-matethanks16:17
ouroumovCheers16:17
Blackisleubuntu-mate: are your speakers built in to your monitor?16:17
Blackisleand the monitor connected by HDMI?16:17
ubuntu-mateits a laptop... toshiba satellite16:18
ubuntu-mateman i really wanted to make this migration to mate, or even unity as the sound is playing up on windows too, it works, but keeps turning off, but it does not seem to be working at all on this 16.04 trail off cd16:19
Blackisleah ok16:19
ubuntu-matemaybe i should try the linux mint and see if that works16:19
toshuuhello! I've been bouncing between google searches and forum posts, but i figured i'd ask here as well :) are there any guides/readily-available software for 3d printing available for ubuntu? i can explain what i'm hoping to use it for if necessary/interested :)16:19
toshuuubuntu-mate, any errors showing up in dmesg in the console related to the sound? i had a problem with a bad hdmi cable, it was showing a "bad ELD data byte" error now and again16:20
Blackislethink it depends on your 3D printer toshuu16:21
toshuuBlackisle: that's something i'm looking into as well, what i can actually get here locally that will be inside the budget i've gotten...which is not a lot :( but the whole idea is to try and develop something useful at the lowest cost, so it's a challenge at least! :)16:22
toshuu(i have to learn how to 3d model better than i do now before i'm going to make much progress anyway, so no big rush :P)16:23
ubuntu-matetoshuu, im on a toshiba satellite laptop, 8gb ram, its got internal sound and speakers16:23
toshuuubuntu-mate: if it happens to have a model number anywhere that would help too, might make it easier to look up the specifics :) but if you can run commands like dmesg in a mate terminal, you might be able to spot a kernel/console error that might hint as to the sound issue...i've had a couple as well that i haven't with other distros, but it's working alright now :)16:25
toshuuubuntu-mate, oh, although you've probably seen this already, there's a tag for toshiba satellite issues that could be helpful :) https://askubuntu.com/questions/tagged/toshiba-satellite16:26
ubuntu-mateits a toshiba satellite L75016:28
Blackislehttps://www.blackisle.org.uk/owncloud/index.php/s/YRQZMaLmwZJpeUX16:29
Blackisle^^ ubuntu-mate16:29
Blackisleis it as simple as selecting heaphone or speaker output from the sound options drop down?16:29
BlackisleI've not had them autoswitch when plugging in headphones on my Dell16:30
ubuntu-matei wish it was that simple, just not happening16:31
Blackisle:/16:33
toshuuhmm...i wish i knew more personally about debugging sound issues, sorry! i never did get hdmi output working with mate 16.04, though i think that's due to either the cable or the card...it uses a "mini-HDMI" port (half way between both the standard connectors :P), either that or the cable are wonky16:33
toshuuit works in some distributions but not others alas :)16:34
ubuntu-mateaaah man16:34
toshuuubuntu-mate, oh, i'd say someone here probably knows more things to try...i've only been running ubuntu mate for a week and i just got here, so i'm totally unreliable anyway :P16:37
ubuntu-matewhere you from toshuu16:37
ubuntu-mateim from near London, UK16:37
ubuntu-matei was really looking forward to ditching windows 1016:38
ouroumovubuntu-mate, did you install the OS to drive since earlier?16:41
nomichttp://i.imgur.com/JmUBa1B.png16:41
nomicjoke16:42
toshuuubuntu-mate, i was hoping to use it on my hp laptop, unfortunately i ran into a lot of problems...so that's still windows 10 for now, but that piece of...stuff won't boot anything other than windows properly :) on my desktop it works nicely16:42
ouroumovtoshuu, did you disable secure boot in the BIOS?16:42
toshuuouroumov, oh yes...well as best hp will allow, either selecting a uefi or "legacy" boot source with either secure boot enabled or disabled...with a pin code...it's a particularly terrible laptop :P i did eventually get it to boot, now that i think about it, but the wireless wouldn't work properly...essential for the laptop unfortunately :/16:45
ouroumovtoshuu, no Ethernet Port?16:46
ouroumovI mean, no cable connection?16:46
toshuuouroumov, oh yes, it does have a working ethernet port that appears to be supported :) it worked for the installation at least, it was just the wireless (particularly the -firmware- for the wireless) that was...intermittently working at best16:47
toshuuthe laptop itself (hp pavilion x360, 11-n040ca :P) was never the best anyway, it only really worked -properly- in windows 8.1...in windows 10 the touch screen driver is broken so using it as a tablet is out...it works in linux, but linux seems to have other problems with it :(16:48
ouroumovtoshuu, Wifi issues are the most current. Did you try and google "ubuntu <wifi card model> <driver name>" ?16:48
toshuuouroumov, well that's certainly true...and when you're dealing with closed firmware you're dealing with a black box to a certain extent :) thanks i have done some searching around, i'm intending to do more since i would prefer to be running some version of linux over windows 10...honestly it's proven to be so buggy that it's hard to believe at times16:50
ubuntu-mateive just checked my other kids two laptops with ubuntu running, sounds working fine on them, its just this damn piece of lame laptop16:50
ouroumovI've no experience with W10. Only heard about it from a few people, almost nobody around me uses it ~16:51
ouroumovubuntu-mate, is it installed to disk yet?16:51
ubuntu-matenaah im not installing it, until i know sound will work16:52
ouroumovBut that's not something you'll be able to find out from the live usb. ^^16:53
ouroumovTell you what though.16:53
ubuntu-matelet me run off linux mint cd, see if that works16:53
ouroumovWhat you can do is use a big USB stick and install the system to that USB stick if you have more than one USB port16:53
ubuntu-matenow my sound hardware in completley disabled16:53
toshuuouroumov, i've only been using it at all due to the aforementioned laptop giving everything else trouble...it started out giving a good impression, actually :) kind of turned back from the mistakes they made with windows 8 and maintained the stability...then the updates started coming out...ugh16:53
ouroumovIf you've got one of those fancy minimalistic "modern" pieces of sh*t you're boned16:54
ouroumovtoshuu, how much advertising do you have built in the OS? :p16:54
toshuuouroumov, i didn't expect it was going to work great, but when i looked at a lot of the hardware it seemed like linux could potentially work on it...i'd probably have saved up more and gotten a different one now :) actually in windows 10 i haven't seen too many ads in the -software- yet, although i'm sure they'll pull that eventually...outlook.com now has full-screen ads if you don't block their16:57
toshuujavascript though :(16:57
ouroumov^^16:58
mac__anyone here???17:14
TheMariusyes17:15
mac__im in east coast america17:15
TheMariusk17:15
TheMariusim in norway17:15
mac__stinky wet americunt17:16
TheMariuswhat17:16
mac__isnt that what people call americans17:16
TheMariusno .. but maybe where you live?17:16
TheMariuswas thinking you had tourettes syndrome a few seconds17:17
mac__I think the british say it cuz its an insult and is a genital17:17
TheMariusyou know what that is right?17:17
TheMariuswell ive never heard any british say it17:17
mac__what do you talk about here17:18
TheMariusin this channel we usually talk about linux17:18
OerHeksTime to read the topic17:18
TheMariusi assumed thats why you joined aswell17:18
TheMariusthis isnt #gynocology17:18
mac__i heard ubuntu sell your search info17:19
TheMariusfeel smug in mac?17:19
wizd3mtime appropriate greetings all17:20
TheMariusnot mate that i know.. unity sent searches to amazon17:20
TheMariuswhats the point, mac17:20
mac__I left microsoft because windows rapes your privacy17:20
TheMariuswhy come in here with this negative attitude and yell slurs about female genitalia and americans, and assume thing thats obiously not correct.. what are you trying to prove17:20
mac__Microsoft secretly uploads your encryption keys to a cloud17:21
wizd3mplease keep it civilized people17:21
mac__so ubuntu is better17:22
mac__In America people mostly smoke herbal cannabis and watch cable television and drink soda in the rest of the world people mostly smoke hashish watch free to air satellite tv and drink tea17:26
TheMariusand what do you do, mac?17:27
wizd3m@mac__: Please do not post remarks like that. It is not a fact and not accaptable17:27
TheMariusi think mac is having a bad day17:28
TheMariusand then this is the wrong channel to get out your frustations in17:29
TheMariuswe can have general debates here sometimes but try to keep it computer oriented17:29
wizd3mHey I am Dutch... if there is a nation known for smoking that stuff it's us... :)17:29
wizd3mBut to the point: Does anyone here have issues with the Broadcom wireless drivers?17:31
wizd3mI keep losing connection17:31
TheMariusi read its an issue in linux17:31
TheMariusi dont have it though17:31
TheMariusbroadcom is the wifi-answer to AMD17:32
TheMariusi mean, ATI17:32
wizd3mATI or AMD, it's the same company, isn't it?17:32
TheMariusif you insist running it you get wifi usb plugs from china for $1 or so... i bought one and run it on this computer.. works perfect17:33
TheMariusfree shipping.. ebay17:33
TheMariusyeah but gpu's are generally called ATI17:33
wizd3mI could do that... but hey... something to complain about :)17:34
wizd3mJust waiting for the bug to be fixed. Until then just to a scan on wifi and it works again.17:35
TheMariusnice to have either way.. you could allways end up with a microcomputer at some point in your life that lacks wifi17:35
wizd3mI will check it out.17:35
TheMariusi have a huge assortment of old and cheap parts, and its proven to be smart to have around17:36
TheMariuswires etc17:36
wizd3myeah, me too. But a wireless usb that isn't broadcom... no17:36
TheMariusthink its ralink17:37
TheMariusralink or realtek17:38
TheMariusthats what ive got from china17:38
TheMariusthey work fine17:39
TheMariusordered a big usb antenna too... im in the middle of nowhere and i get in all sorts of wifi's on it17:40
TheMariussame for that one.. chinese, works fine17:40
wizd3mNot a problem for me, here in Amsterdam i've got thousands :)17:41
TheMariustheres more moose than wifis around here17:42
wizd3m+1 TheMarius17:42
TheMarius3 mbit is the best i get17:42
wizd3mwell, gotta go. Break is over. Gotta work again.17:44
basardoes ubuntu mate support csgo?17:49
basari mean can i play cs go on my raspberry pi 317:50
randallreally doubt it basar17:52
TheMariusbasar: think its a while to we're there17:59
TheMariusmaybe in 2 years though17:59
TheMariusnot raspberry 4 but maybe raspbery 517:59
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ouroumov__What would be the point of running CS on a rpi anyway?19:24
OerHekswhy not, on a 3 inch HD screen ?19:29
gordonjcpyou could play original CS on a raspberry pi, no problem19:48
gordonjcpif you could build it from source19:48
gordonjcp900MHz and half a gig of RAM was shitloads when CS came out19:49
lostsonvery true19:53
kent__Im running 16.04 marco(compton) but cant find any configuration file.I need to add something under shadow-exclude20:34
kent__Anyone with an idea20:52
fifty-sevenCHeyyo20:54
kent__Hello20:54
danang_ubuntu mate should disable pm-utils dan use systemd suspend as default suspend21:18
danang_my thinkpad unable to wakeup with pm-suspend, but work fine with systemctl suspend21:19
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