[03:55] <pc_> hi, how to solve the tearing monitor problem?
[03:56] <pc_> hi, how to solve the tearing monitor problem?
[04:37] <Watney> hello
[04:38] <Watney> is anyone active?
[08:04] <Blackisle> mark watney? are you irc'ing from mars? o.O
[08:08] <darrel_> hey
[08:12] <mate|59454> why am I right here ? Seems to be lost, lol
[13:04] <maximus> Hallo! No update for Ubuntu Mate 16.06 to Mate 1.14?
[13:06] <Guest91378> any ideas why ubuntu mate only works when plugged in?
[13:07] <Guest91378> :(
[13:14] <gordonjcp> Guest91378: because
[13:22] <maximus> somebody should think that ubuntu mare without updates for mate is not an lts system. why is so difficult to update?! are we in the 90th?
[15:08] <othniel_> hi guys would u recommend ubuntu mate for a noob?
[15:08] <othniel_> like me ?
[15:08] <OerHeks> lets say no: you will try anyway :-D
[15:09] <othniel_> imcurrently using manjaro
[15:09] <othniel_> lol u ryt OerHeks
[15:17] <Blackisle> othniel_: yes, more stable and more likely to "just work" than Manjaro
[15:18] <Blackisle> taking nothing away from manjaro though
[15:18] <Blackisle> it is a fantastic distro
[15:18] <Blackisle> but it benefits from a little experience due to it's rapid software updates
[16:05] <ubuntu-mate> hey there
[16:06] <ouroumov> hey ubuntu-mate
[16:07] <ubuntu-mate> I running ubuntu-mate off the cd, wanted to test it out before i install and replace my windows 10 but the sound does not seam to coming out from speakers, it does on the headphones.. wh is this ?
[16:08] <ouroumov> Maybe your speakers aren't detected cause they need specific drivers.
[16:08] <ouroumov> Did you go to sound settings already?
[16:08] <ubuntu-mate> yes, yes I did
[16:08] <ouroumov> In the hardware tab, how many interfaces show up?
[16:09] <ubuntu-mate> it says in the hardware, built in audio, 1 output / 1 input, analague sterio output
[16:09] <ouroumov> Okay
[16:10] <ubuntu-mate> i plug headphones it and I get sound, unplug them and no sound
[16:10] <ouroumov> Oh
[16:10] <ouroumov> Maybe the sound applet goes on mute when you unplug?
[16:11] <ouroumov> Do you have hotkeys to mute/unmute the sound on your machine?
[16:11] <ouroumov> On mine it's Fn+F3
[16:11] <ubuntu-mate> yes
[16:11] <ubuntu-mate> let me try them..
[16:12] <ubuntu-mate> thank you for your help ouroumov, its great that you here to help newbies into linux
[16:13] <ouroumov> np
[16:13] <ubuntu-mate> its unmuted, volume is on full but there is no sound
[16:13] <ouroumov> Okay
[16:13] <ouroumov> So
[16:14] <ouroumov> I can't promise you you're gonna have sound once it's installed, however there is something to do after install that'll improve your chances.
[16:14] <ouroumov> See the Welcome Splash screen? It'll still be there after you install and reboot into your system, but it will be a little different.
[16:14] <ubuntu-mate> is that where i install drivers..
[16:15] <ouroumov> There will be a "Getting Started" button that'll lead you through post-install updates and driver + firmware install
[16:16] <ubuntu-mate> aaah yes i saw that in one of the videos..
[16:16] <ouroumov> Okay, so once you've installed, do that first thing and you'll know
[16:16] <ouroumov> Sorry mate but I gotta disconnect and hop on the Bus home from work
[16:16] <ubuntu-mate> yeah but is it worth the risk, Ive got a full licensed windows 10\
[16:16] <ubuntu-mate> okay take care
[16:16] <ubuntu-mate> nice one
[16:16] <ubuntu-mate> wish you all the best
[16:17] <ouroumov> If you have more questions, feel free to ask them, but you might have to be patient. ^^
[16:17] <ubuntu-mate> thanks
[16:17] <ouroumov> Cheers
[16:17] <Blackisle> ubuntu-mate: are your speakers built in to your monitor?
[16:17] <Blackisle> and the monitor connected by HDMI?
[16:18] <ubuntu-mate> its a laptop... toshiba satellite
[16:19] <ubuntu-mate> man i really wanted to make this migration to mate, or even unity as the sound is playing up on windows too, it works, but keeps turning off, but it does not seem to be working at all on this 16.04 trail off cd
[16:19] <Blackisle> ah ok
[16:19] <ubuntu-mate> maybe i should try the linux mint and see if that works
[16:19] <toshuu> hello! I've been bouncing between google searches and forum posts, but i figured i'd ask here as well :) are there any guides/readily-available software for 3d printing available for ubuntu? i can explain what i'm hoping to use it for if necessary/interested :)
[16:20] <toshuu> ubuntu-mate, any errors showing up in dmesg in the console related to the sound? i had a problem with a bad hdmi cable, it was showing a "bad ELD data byte" error now and again
[16:21] <Blackisle> think it depends on your 3D printer toshuu
[16:22] <toshuu> Blackisle: that's something i'm looking into as well, what i can actually get here locally that will be inside the budget i've gotten...which is not a lot :( but the whole idea is to try and develop something useful at the lowest cost, so it's a challenge at least! :)
[16:23] <toshuu> (i have to learn how to 3d model better than i do now before i'm going to make much progress anyway, so no big rush :P)
[16:23] <ubuntu-mate> toshuu, im on a toshiba satellite laptop, 8gb ram, its got internal sound and speakers
[16:25] <toshuu> ubuntu-mate: if it happens to have a model number anywhere that would help too, might make it easier to look up the specifics :) but if you can run commands like dmesg in a mate terminal, you might be able to spot a kernel/console error that might hint as to the sound issue...i've had a couple as well that i haven't with other distros, but it's working alright now :)
[16:26] <toshuu> ubuntu-mate, oh, although you've probably seen this already, there's a tag for toshiba satellite issues that could be helpful :) https://askubuntu.com/questions/tagged/toshiba-satellite
[16:28] <ubuntu-mate> its a toshiba satellite L750
[16:29] <Blackisle> https://www.blackisle.org.uk/owncloud/index.php/s/YRQZMaLmwZJpeUX
[16:29] <Blackisle> ^^ ubuntu-mate
[16:29] <Blackisle> is it as simple as selecting heaphone or speaker output from the sound options drop down?
[16:30] <Blackisle> I've not had them autoswitch when plugging in headphones on my Dell
[16:31] <ubuntu-mate> i wish it was that simple, just not happening
[16:33] <Blackisle> :/
[16:33] <toshuu> hmm...i wish i knew more personally about debugging sound issues, sorry! i never did get hdmi output working with mate 16.04, though i think that's due to either the cable or the card...it uses a "mini-HDMI" port (half way between both the standard connectors :P), either that or the cable are wonky
[16:34] <toshuu> it works in some distributions but not others alas :)
[16:34] <ubuntu-mate> aaah man
[16:37] <toshuu> ubuntu-mate, oh, i'd say someone here probably knows more things to try...i've only been running ubuntu mate for a week and i just got here, so i'm totally unreliable anyway :P
[16:37] <ubuntu-mate> where you from toshuu
[16:37] <ubuntu-mate> im from near London, UK
[16:38] <ubuntu-mate> i was really looking forward to ditching windows 10
[16:41] <ouroumov> ubuntu-mate, did you install the OS to drive since earlier?
[16:41] <nomic> http://i.imgur.com/JmUBa1B.png
[16:42] <nomic> joke
[16:42] <toshuu> ubuntu-mate, i was hoping to use it on my hp laptop, unfortunately i ran into a lot of problems...so that's still windows 10 for now, but that piece of...stuff won't boot anything other than windows properly :) on my desktop it works nicely
[16:42] <ouroumov> toshuu, did you disable secure boot in the BIOS?
[16:45] <toshuu> ouroumov, oh yes...well as best hp will allow, either selecting a uefi or "legacy" boot source with either secure boot enabled or disabled...with a pin code...it's a particularly terrible laptop :P i did eventually get it to boot, now that i think about it, but the wireless wouldn't work properly...essential for the laptop unfortunately :/
[16:46] <ouroumov> toshuu, no Ethernet Port?
[16:46] <ouroumov> I mean, no cable connection?
[16:47] <toshuu> ouroumov, oh yes, it does have a working ethernet port that appears to be supported :) it worked for the installation at least, it was just the wireless (particularly the -firmware- for the wireless) that was...intermittently working at best
[16:48] <toshuu> the laptop itself (hp pavilion x360, 11-n040ca :P) was never the best anyway, it only really worked -properly- in windows 8.1...in windows 10 the touch screen driver is broken so using it as a tablet is out...it works in linux, but linux seems to have other problems with it :(
[16:48] <ouroumov> toshuu, Wifi issues are the most current. Did you try and google "ubuntu <wifi card model> <driver name>" ?
[16:50] <toshuu> ouroumov, well that's certainly true...and when you're dealing with closed firmware you're dealing with a black box to a certain extent :) thanks i have done some searching around, i'm intending to do more since i would prefer to be running some version of linux over windows 10...honestly it's proven to be so buggy that it's hard to believe at times
[16:50] <ubuntu-mate> ive just checked my other kids two laptops with ubuntu running, sounds working fine on them, its just this damn piece of lame laptop
[16:51] <ouroumov> I've no experience with W10. Only heard about it from a few people, almost nobody around me uses it ~
[16:51] <ouroumov> ubuntu-mate, is it installed to disk yet?
[16:52] <ubuntu-mate> naah im not installing it, until i know sound will work
[16:53] <ouroumov> But that's not something you'll be able to find out from the live usb. ^^
[16:53] <ouroumov> Tell you what though.
[16:53] <ubuntu-mate> let me run off linux mint cd, see if that works
[16:53] <ouroumov> What you can do is use a big USB stick and install the system to that USB stick if you have more than one USB port
[16:53] <ubuntu-mate> now my sound hardware in completley disabled
[16:53] <toshuu> ouroumov, i've only been using it at all due to the aforementioned laptop giving everything else trouble...it started out giving a good impression, actually :) kind of turned back from the mistakes they made with windows 8 and maintained the stability...then the updates started coming out...ugh
[16:54] <ouroumov> If you've got one of those fancy minimalistic "modern" pieces of sh*t you're boned
[16:54] <ouroumov> toshuu, how much advertising do you have built in the OS? :p
[16:57] <toshuu> ouroumov, i didn't expect it was going to work great, but when i looked at a lot of the hardware it seemed like linux could potentially work on it...i'd probably have saved up more and gotten a different one now :) actually in windows 10 i haven't seen too many ads in the -software- yet, although i'm sure they'll pull that eventually...outlook.com now has full-screen ads if you don't block their
[16:57] <toshuu> javascript though :(
[16:58] <ouroumov> ^^
[17:14] <mac__> anyone here???
[17:15] <TheMarius> yes
[17:15] <mac__> im in east coast america
[17:15] <TheMarius> k
[17:15] <TheMarius> im in norway
[17:16] <mac__> stinky wet americunt
[17:16] <TheMarius> what
[17:16] <mac__> isnt that what people call americans
[17:16] <TheMarius> no .. but maybe where you live?
[17:17] <TheMarius> was thinking you had tourettes syndrome a few seconds
[17:17] <mac__> I think the british say it cuz its an insult and is a genital
[17:17] <TheMarius> you know what that is right?
[17:17] <TheMarius> well ive never heard any british say it
[17:18] <mac__> what do you talk about here
[17:18] <TheMarius> in this channel we usually talk about linux
[17:18] <OerHeks> Time to read the topic
[17:18] <TheMarius> i assumed thats why you joined aswell
[17:18] <TheMarius> this isnt #gynocology
[17:19] <mac__> i heard ubuntu sell your search info
[17:19] <TheMarius> feel smug in mac?
[17:20] <wizd3m> time appropriate greetings all
[17:20] <TheMarius> not mate that i know.. unity sent searches to amazon
[17:20] <TheMarius> whats the point, mac
[17:20] <mac__> I left microsoft because windows rapes your privacy
[17:20] <TheMarius> why come in here with this negative attitude and yell slurs about female genitalia and americans, and assume thing thats obiously not correct.. what are you trying to prove
[17:21] <mac__> Microsoft secretly uploads your encryption keys to a cloud
[17:21] <wizd3m> please keep it civilized people
[17:22] <mac__> so ubuntu is better
[17:26] <mac__> In America people mostly smoke herbal cannabis and watch cable television and drink soda in the rest of the world people mostly smoke hashish watch free to air satellite tv and drink tea
[17:27] <TheMarius> and what do you do, mac?
[17:27] <wizd3m> @mac__: Please do not post remarks like that. It is not a fact and not accaptable
[17:28] <TheMarius> i think mac is having a bad day
[17:29] <TheMarius> and then this is the wrong channel to get out your frustations in
[17:29] <TheMarius> we can have general debates here sometimes but try to keep it computer oriented
[17:29] <wizd3m> Hey I am Dutch... if there is a nation known for smoking that stuff it's us... :)
[17:31] <wizd3m> But to the point: Does anyone here have issues with the Broadcom wireless drivers?
[17:31] <wizd3m> I keep losing connection
[17:31] <TheMarius> i read its an issue in linux
[17:31] <TheMarius> i dont have it though
[17:32] <TheMarius> broadcom is the wifi-answer to AMD
[17:32] <TheMarius> i mean, ATI
[17:32] <wizd3m> ATI or AMD, it's the same company, isn't it?
[17:33] <TheMarius> if you insist running it you get wifi usb plugs from china for $1 or so... i bought one and run it on this computer.. works perfect
[17:33] <TheMarius> free shipping.. ebay
[17:33] <TheMarius> yeah but gpu's are generally called ATI
[17:34] <wizd3m> I could do that... but hey... something to complain about :)
[17:35] <wizd3m> Just waiting for the bug to be fixed. Until then just to a scan on wifi and it works again.
[17:35] <TheMarius> nice to have either way.. you could allways end up with a microcomputer at some point in your life that lacks wifi
[17:35] <wizd3m> I will check it out.
[17:36] <TheMarius> i have a huge assortment of old and cheap parts, and its proven to be smart to have around
[17:36] <TheMarius> wires etc
[17:36] <wizd3m> yeah, me too. But a wireless usb that isn't broadcom... no
[17:37] <TheMarius> think its ralink
[17:38] <TheMarius> ralink or realtek
[17:38] <TheMarius> thats what ive got from china
[17:39] <TheMarius> they work fine
[17:40] <TheMarius> ordered a big usb antenna too... im in the middle of nowhere and i get in all sorts of wifi's on it
[17:40] <TheMarius> same for that one.. chinese, works fine
[17:41] <wizd3m> Not a problem for me, here in Amsterdam i've got thousands :)
[17:42] <TheMarius> theres more moose than wifis around here
[17:42] <wizd3m> +1 TheMarius
[17:42] <TheMarius> 3 mbit is the best i get
[17:44] <wizd3m> well, gotta go. Break is over. Gotta work again.
[17:49] <basar> does ubuntu mate support csgo?
[17:50] <basar> i mean can i play cs go on my raspberry pi 3
[17:52] <randall> really doubt it basar
[17:59] <TheMarius> basar: think its a while to we're there
[17:59] <TheMarius> maybe in 2 years though
[17:59] <TheMarius> not raspberry 4 but maybe raspbery 5
[19:24] <ouroumov__> What would be the point of running CS on a rpi anyway?
[19:29] <OerHeks> why not, on a 3 inch HD screen ?
[19:48] <gordonjcp> you could play original CS on a raspberry pi, no problem
[19:48] <gordonjcp> if you could build it from source
[19:49] <gordonjcp> 900MHz and half a gig of RAM was shitloads when CS came out
[19:53] <lostson> very true
[20:34] <kent__> Im running 16.04 marco(compton) but cant find any configuration file.I need to add something under shadow-exclude
[20:52] <kent__> Anyone with an idea
[20:54] <fifty-sevenC> Heyyo
[20:54] <kent__> Hello
[21:18] <danang_> ubuntu mate should disable pm-utils dan use systemd suspend as default suspend
[21:19] <danang_> my thinkpad unable to wakeup with pm-suspend, but work fine with systemctl suspend