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yofelThomas Anderson (thomasanderson) wants to be a member of Kubuntu Ninjas - Yellow belts (kubuntu-ninjas-yellow-belts)07:23
yofeldoes anyone know him?07:23
ejayHi. I installed plasma 5.6.4 from backports on kubuntu 16.04. Kdeinit5 keeps crashing like there is no tomorrow. Why? How to diagnose whats wrong?08:36
clivejoshadeslayer: are you working on apps 16.04.1 in Neon?09:58
shadeslayernot exactly ...09:59
clivejooh09:59
shadeslayerI needed it for other things09:59
shadeslayerand the easiest way for me to get it done was to just update Neon's branches09:59
clivejowhat you need it for?09:59
shadeslayerDebian rebuilds10:00
clivejoI see you put in a request to package lastest libdrumstick10:01
shadeslayeryeah10:01
clivejoIm trying to figure out why korganizer keeps crashing10:01
shadeslayeryou stalker10:02
shadeslayer:P10:02
clivejoLOL I need it packaged too!10:02
shadeslayerxD10:02
clivejofor that weird package Ive never seen before10:02
clivejohave no idea what its does!10:02
clivejoIm assuming its a music thingie-ma-jig10:03
shadeslayerI'll just update it in a repo for myself10:03
clivejoany ideas on what KCalCore::ICalTimeZoneData::ICalTimeZoneData (this=0x5623445a0ce0, rhs=..., tz=..., earliest=...) at /build/kcalcore-yvIebH/kcalcore-16.04.1/src/icaltimezones.cpp:70810:03
clivejomeans?10:03
shadeslayerthat you need to poke bugs.kde.org ?10:04
shadeslayerlooks like a crash in the ICalTimeZoneData ctor10:04
clivejokontact seem to think its broken ABI10:04
shadeslayerwouldn't that be a different crash?10:04
clivejono idea :/10:05
shadeslayerdoes KDE PIM gurantee ABI?10:05
clivejoshadeslayer: I was trying that myself, but not sure where the files should be installed - https://launchpad.net/~clivejo/+archive/ubuntu/yakkety/+build/978308210:05
clivejohavent had time to go back and look at the properly10:06
shadeslayerI can take a poke later10:06
clivejoat least kmail is working again in 16.04.110:12
clivejodoesnt seem to be stalling and taking forever to open emails10:13
soee:)10:14
clivejohow do I list all bugs for a certain product on bugs.kde?10:17
soeehttps://bugs.kde.org/describecomponents.cgi10:17
clivejoyofel: about?10:25
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clivejoneed some guidance on kdeconnect10:28
acheron88clivejo: supposed fix to the bug I reported the other day https://quickgit.kde.org/?p=plasma-desktop.git&a=commitdiff&h=8a9772d8673a58583317b4906a9352d6bf44a8e2&hp=d8197688122e6b3787283ef59fa5ddd3c518662b10:41
clivejowill it be in the next release?10:42
acheron88it's in branch 5.6, so presumably will be in any 5.6.510:43
acheron885.6.5 - Tue 2016-06-14  'Bug fixes and new translations only from Plasma/5.6 branch - only if needed'10:45
clivejohave you applied the patch yourself?10:45
clivejotest if it works?10:45
acheron88nope. only just seen it10:45
acheron88I will apply later today and test10:46
clivejoare you on YY or XX?10:46
acheron88XX on main machines, and YY in a VM10:46
soeevalorie, ovidiuflorin could you post news about 5.6.4 in backports?10:47
BluesKajHey folks11:21
acheron88clivejo: testing locally on XX, that patch/commit seems to do the trick12:04
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clivejoacheron_uk: are you acheron88?17:59
acheron_ukyes, sorry18:03
clivejohi :)18:09
clivejowhat part of the UK you in?18:09
acheron_ukSW, more or less18:11
clivejogetting good weather?18:11
acheron_ukHas been great today18:11
* clivejo nods18:11
* clivejo just had a BBQ18:11
acheron_uknice. may do that later in the week or w/e if things hold18:12
clivejois that kickoff bug only in FW5.22?18:14
acheron_ukseems that way. I tested in arch with FW5.21 and no prob, then updated to FW5.22 from their testing repo while plasma stayed the same, and up popped the bug.18:17
acheron_ukfix is in plasma desktop, but looks like was just exposed by change in FWs18:18
clivejocan anyone else confirm this crash in korganizer?18:42
valoriehi folks, trying to figure out what needs testing in YY?19:34
valorieor I guess I can try backports in XX on my travel computer19:34
valoriebtw, I finally restarted this laptop after days, and the only odd thing I'm noticing is that my screen color is oddly changing like every half minute or so19:45
valorieI think redshift has gone bipolar or so19:46
clivejothat is odd19:50
valorieonce I turned it off in the widget the color shifts stopped, so it isn't plasma, the drivers, etc.20:01
valoriesad, because I really like/need redshift20:01
valoriebackports is now installing on the travel laptop, but I suppose by now all the kinks have been worked out20:13
clivejonope20:13
clivejothere always be bugs!20:14
valorieI was thinking that dropbox wouldn't start, but no, it was just still syncing20:15
valorieof course it's a rather lean lil box20:16
clivejois it any snappier?20:16
valoriehard to say, it's pretty slow20:16
clivejoI find 5.6 bit quicker 20:16
acheron_ukkrunner ate my memory earlier today. not sure what caused that20:16
clivejologin, opening apps etc seems a little faster20:17
valorieperhaps20:17
valorieI basically only use it to test between trips20:17
valorieoh, I woke with a crown from one of my molars in my mouth this morning20:17
valorieneed to leave to the dentist to have that looked at/replaced/repaired20:18
clivejovalorie: did you see yofel's question this morning?20:18
valoriettyl20:18
clivejoThomas Anderson (thomasanderson) wants to be a member of Kubuntu Ninjas - Yellow belts (kubuntu-ninjas-yellow-belts)20:18
clivejoanyone know him?20:18
valorieI have never heard of him20:19
valorieI can write to him and explain that he needs to come in here and help.....20:19
valorieafter the dentist20:19
clivejook, be good :)20:21
yofelo/20:21
clivejoacheron_uk: do you have a LP account?20:22
acheron_ukyes, set a fresh one up today20:22
clivejowhat is it?20:23
acheron_ukhttps://launchpad.net/~acheron20:23
clivejonice20:23
clivejowill you patch plasma-desktop?20:24
acheron_ukalready done it here locally20:25
clivejoI mean for everybody20:25
acheron_ukcan make a ppa and upload to that?20:25
clivejodo you use git?20:26
acheron_uksometimes, but really only for grabbing code, rather than changing or committing20:27
clivejodo you know where we keep the packaging?20:27
acheron_uknot on debian git any more?20:28
clivejocorrect, we moved to Launchpad20:29
clivejohttps://code.launchpad.net/~kubuntu-packagers/+git20:29
acheron_ukgot it20:30
clivejoif you clone plasma-desktop20:30
clivejocheckout kubuntu_xenial_backports20:32
acheron_ukyep20:33
clivejodo you know how to create a patch and put it into the packaging?20:33
acheron_ukdid it earlier with the package via quilt and making the edit myself 20:34
clivejoif you look in debian/patches/upstream_include_cmath_c++_fix.diff20:34
acheron_ukassume in just the packaging only you copy in the patch and add to the series file20:34
clivejoits an example of a patch we are applying 20:35
clivejoyup20:35
clivejoand add a note in the changelog20:35
acheron_ukyep, I looked at that one earler when I was modifying the package as a whole20:36
clivejoyou should also close the Launchpad bug from the changelog as well20:36
* clivejo wonders was it ever reported :/20:37
acheron_ukis there a LP bug? 20:37
acheron_ukI didn't20:37
clivejoLOL probably not!20:37
acheron_ukas I knew it was kde upstream20:37
clivejoyou could refer to the KDE bug you got the patch from20:38
clivejojust make a brief note of what the patch does, makes it easier for the next person to know it needs to be removed in the next release20:38
acheron_ukthis is what I did earlier20:39
acheron_uk2 secs20:39
acheron_ukhttp://paste.ubuntu.com/16665468/20:40
clivejolooks good20:41
clivejowhat did you call the file?20:41
clivejothe patch20:41
acheron_ukjust 'fix_kicker_recent_documents.diff'20:41
clivejocan you put upstream_fix_kicker_recent_documents.diff20:42
acheron_ukyes20:42
clivejojust allows us to see at a glance that its came from upstream and can be removed the next staging we do :)20:42
acheron_ukdone20:43
clivejoand you change it in the series files too20:43
clivejocan I see your changelog entry?20:44
acheron_ukgimme a sec20:44
acheron_ukhttp://paste.ubuntu.com/16665626/ as I was only doing it for me20:48
clivejo!info plasma-desktop20:51
ubottuplasma-desktop (source: plasma-desktop): Tools and widgets for the desktop. In component universe, is optional. Version 4:5.5.5-0ubuntu1 (yakkety), package size 1575 kB, installed size 7751 kB20:51
clivejoI would add a bit more detail about the patch20:53
clivejoits name mainly20:53
acheron_ukgit doesn't match the backports? https://git.launchpad.net/~kubuntu-packagers/kubuntu-packaging/+git/plasma-desktop/tree/debian/changelog?h=kubuntu_xenial_backports20:54
acheron_ukat least the ppa changelog and versions anyway20:55
clivejoyeah20:55
clivejobackports is basically a PPA20:55
clivejoso we dont care too much about the version numbers20:56
clivejothe main archive on the other hand is different!20:56
clivejohttps://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/plasma-desktop20:57
clivejoversion 4:5.6.4-0ubuntu1 is in proposed20:57
clivejoso for yakkety archive changelog we would have to make a new version ubuntu220:58
acheron_ukI get that.20:58
acheron_ukJust looking to do a ppa version on xenial, then surely CL should follow on from the one in ppa rather than the archive version in YY? 20:59
clivejofrom my point of view, we usually work on devel then backport it21:00
clivejothat tends to be our workflow21:00
acheron_ukunless you just don't care and treat each a a separate backport?21:00
acheron_ukah... as I was typing, you obviously do21:01
acheron_ukthat is fine21:01
acheron_ukso now have http://paste.ubuntu.com/16665949/21:07
clivejoah I modified its a bit for you :P#21:07
acheron_ukno probs21:08
clivejohttps://git.launchpad.net/~kubuntu-packagers/kubuntu-packaging/+git/plasma-desktop/commit/?h=kubuntu_yakkety_archive&id=517d50e0fb280940f3372918771fcb77b8715c2721:08
acheron_ukfair enough in yy :)21:09
acheron_ukXX to match then21:10
clivejoso its building in the staging PPA - https://launchpad.net/~kubuntu-ppa/+archive/ubuntu/staging-plasma/+packages?field.name_filter=plasma-desktop&field.status_filter=published&field.series_filter=yakkety21:11
acheron_ukcool21:11
acheron_ukseems I've acquired a yellow belt while I wasn't looking :)21:13
clivejoindeed !21:13
* acheron_uk watches build in LP. zzzzzzzzzzzzzz....21:17
clivejoyeah, this is the boring bit!21:17
clivejowaiting forever for it to publish21:17
acheron_ukburger will take ages to publish as well, I bet21:17
acheron_ukpretty straight forward21:19
clivejoyeah, you got all the basics, just need to learn how to apply it :)21:20
acheron_ukas said, I tinker and rebuild stuff for myself21:21
acheron_ukjust a case of adapting to a more formal way 21:21
clivejowhere did you learn how to package?21:21
acheron_ukmyself, just wanting to modify some things the way I wanted them21:22
acheron_ukused to do the same a bit on mandrake/mandriva with rpms21:23
clivejoI wouldnt know where to start in Mandrake21:24
clivejoI have a little bit of a spite against Mandrake though!21:24
acheron_ukrmp spec files are *fun*21:24
acheron_ukwhy?21:24
clivejoit was the first ever distro I ever tried, I got a box set21:25
clivejoand it blew up my new monitor21:25
clivejoby jacking up the refresh rate!21:25
clivejoI was as sick as a dog over that21:25
clivejothe monitor was like £600 at the time21:26
acheron_ukouch!21:26
clivejohave you heard of kubuntu-automation ?21:27
acheron_ukmandrake was the first I tried as well I think. got a copy/cds from uni21:27
acheron_ukheard of it? yes. maybe clicked a link? yes. recall what on earth it was? not so sure21:27
clivejofrom what I remember this was like 20 floppy discs!21:28
clivejohttps://git.launchpad.net/~kubuntu-packagers/+git/kubuntu-automation/tree/21:28
clivejothis is what we call KA, an attempt to lighten the load and automate the packaging process21:29
acheron_ukhah! yes I seen that.21:29
clivejoonce Id pushed your patch/changelog to Launchpad I used git-buildpackage-ppa21:30
clivejothat automatically goes off and downloads the source code, packages it all up, ready for upload to LP21:30
acheron_uknice21:31
clivejoyes, its got some nice tools for making things a bit easier21:31
clivejodo-all goes into every folder in your current directory and runs the command you give it21:32
acheron_ukwith the number of packages in kde imagine pretty essential21:32
clivejogit-clone-all will go grab all the packaging from Launchpad21:33
clivejohave you a KDE ID?21:34
acheron_ukthat readme is a tad short!21:34
clivejoLOL yup21:34
clivejounfortuately documentation is a bit lacking21:34
acheron_ukKDE ID in what sense?21:34
acheron_ukjust have bug.kde account21:35
clivejocan you access this - https://notes.kde.org/p/kubuntu-packaging21:36
clivejowith your KDE ID21:36
acheron_ukpage is not even loading here ATM21:38
clivejoarrrr21:38
acheron_uk502 Bad Gateway21:38
clivejoBad Gateway21:38
clivejowell thats useful!!21:38
clivejowell that *was* an attempt to better document it!21:39
acheron_ukI look another day if it'll let me in21:40
* clivejo kicks KDE Notes and LP21:41
acheron_ukI presume? https://identity.kde.org/index.php?r=site/login21:41
clivejoyes21:42
clivejobut that page will ask you for it21:42
clivejowell it should!21:42
acheron_ukcan't log inot the main identity site, so presuming a bugs.kde account is not enough21:45
clivejosoee_: ping21:46
soee_clivejo: pong21:48
acheron_ukYY published, VM updated, rebooted, and bug 'seems' fixed22:13
clivejoLOL, Im still downloading22:17
acheron_ukXX updated as well, but I'd already 'fixed' it, so should in effect be a no change package replacement22:18
acheron_uknot slow broadband here, but no fibre yet either22:19
clivejoacheron_uk: yup, thats fixes for me too :)22:24
clivejoId like a couple more testers before moving to backports22:24
clivejoanyone up for it?22:25
acheron_ukwould be wise. had a couple of crashes with krunner today that I'm reasonably sure are just coincidence, but you never know.22:26
clivejothats the problem, things are interlinked22:27
clivejofixing one thing could break something else!22:27
acheron_ukindeed22:28
acheron_ukright. gotta give up for this evening. zzzzzz22:29
clivejoyeah, its getting late22:29
acheron_ukthanks for the small 'tour'22:29
clivejono problem22:30
clivejohope we see more of you :)22:30
acheron_ukI'll pop back in tomorrow, and looks like I've all but booked a place in that 'dojo' later in week :P22:31
acheron_uknight22:32
clivejonight night22:32

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