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yofel | Thomas Anderson (thomasanderson) wants to be a member of Kubuntu Ninjas - Yellow belts (kubuntu-ninjas-yellow-belts) | 07:23 |
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yofel | does anyone know him? | 07:23 |
ejay | Hi. I installed plasma 5.6.4 from backports on kubuntu 16.04. Kdeinit5 keeps crashing like there is no tomorrow. Why? How to diagnose whats wrong? | 08:36 |
clivejo | shadeslayer: are you working on apps 16.04.1 in Neon? | 09:58 |
shadeslayer | not exactly ... | 09:59 |
clivejo | oh | 09:59 |
shadeslayer | I needed it for other things | 09:59 |
shadeslayer | and the easiest way for me to get it done was to just update Neon's branches | 09:59 |
clivejo | what you need it for? | 09:59 |
shadeslayer | Debian rebuilds | 10:00 |
clivejo | I see you put in a request to package lastest libdrumstick | 10:01 |
shadeslayer | yeah | 10:01 |
clivejo | Im trying to figure out why korganizer keeps crashing | 10:01 |
shadeslayer | you stalker | 10:02 |
shadeslayer | :P | 10:02 |
clivejo | LOL I need it packaged too! | 10:02 |
shadeslayer | xD | 10:02 |
clivejo | for that weird package Ive never seen before | 10:02 |
clivejo | have no idea what its does! | 10:02 |
clivejo | Im assuming its a music thingie-ma-jig | 10:03 |
shadeslayer | I'll just update it in a repo for myself | 10:03 |
clivejo | any ideas on what KCalCore::ICalTimeZoneData::ICalTimeZoneData (this=0x5623445a0ce0, rhs=..., tz=..., earliest=...) at /build/kcalcore-yvIebH/kcalcore-16.04.1/src/icaltimezones.cpp:708 | 10:03 |
clivejo | means? | 10:03 |
shadeslayer | that you need to poke bugs.kde.org ? | 10:04 |
shadeslayer | looks like a crash in the ICalTimeZoneData ctor | 10:04 |
clivejo | kontact seem to think its broken ABI | 10:04 |
shadeslayer | wouldn't that be a different crash? | 10:04 |
clivejo | no idea :/ | 10:05 |
shadeslayer | does KDE PIM gurantee ABI? | 10:05 |
clivejo | shadeslayer: I was trying that myself, but not sure where the files should be installed - https://launchpad.net/~clivejo/+archive/ubuntu/yakkety/+build/9783082 | 10:05 |
clivejo | havent had time to go back and look at the properly | 10:06 |
shadeslayer | I can take a poke later | 10:06 |
clivejo | at least kmail is working again in 16.04.1 | 10:12 |
clivejo | doesnt seem to be stalling and taking forever to open emails | 10:13 |
soee | :) | 10:14 |
clivejo | how do I list all bugs for a certain product on bugs.kde? | 10:17 |
soee | https://bugs.kde.org/describecomponents.cgi | 10:17 |
clivejo | yofel: about? | 10:25 |
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clivejo | need some guidance on kdeconnect | 10:28 |
acheron88 | clivejo: supposed fix to the bug I reported the other day https://quickgit.kde.org/?p=plasma-desktop.git&a=commitdiff&h=8a9772d8673a58583317b4906a9352d6bf44a8e2&hp=d8197688122e6b3787283ef59fa5ddd3c518662b | 10:41 |
clivejo | will it be in the next release? | 10:42 |
acheron88 | it's in branch 5.6, so presumably will be in any 5.6.5 | 10:43 |
acheron88 | 5.6.5 - Tue 2016-06-14 'Bug fixes and new translations only from Plasma/5.6 branch - only if needed' | 10:45 |
clivejo | have you applied the patch yourself? | 10:45 |
clivejo | test if it works? | 10:45 |
acheron88 | nope. only just seen it | 10:45 |
acheron88 | I will apply later today and test | 10:46 |
clivejo | are you on YY or XX? | 10:46 |
acheron88 | XX on main machines, and YY in a VM | 10:46 |
soee | valorie, ovidiuflorin could you post news about 5.6.4 in backports? | 10:47 |
BluesKaj | Hey folks | 11:21 |
acheron88 | clivejo: testing locally on XX, that patch/commit seems to do the trick | 12:04 |
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clivejo | acheron_uk: are you acheron88? | 17:59 |
acheron_uk | yes, sorry | 18:03 |
clivejo | hi :) | 18:09 |
clivejo | what part of the UK you in? | 18:09 |
acheron_uk | SW, more or less | 18:11 |
clivejo | getting good weather? | 18:11 |
acheron_uk | Has been great today | 18:11 |
* clivejo nods | 18:11 | |
* clivejo just had a BBQ | 18:11 | |
acheron_uk | nice. may do that later in the week or w/e if things hold | 18:12 |
clivejo | is that kickoff bug only in FW5.22? | 18:14 |
acheron_uk | seems that way. I tested in arch with FW5.21 and no prob, then updated to FW5.22 from their testing repo while plasma stayed the same, and up popped the bug. | 18:17 |
acheron_uk | fix is in plasma desktop, but looks like was just exposed by change in FWs | 18:18 |
clivejo | can anyone else confirm this crash in korganizer? | 18:42 |
valorie | hi folks, trying to figure out what needs testing in YY? | 19:34 |
valorie | or I guess I can try backports in XX on my travel computer | 19:34 |
valorie | btw, I finally restarted this laptop after days, and the only odd thing I'm noticing is that my screen color is oddly changing like every half minute or so | 19:45 |
valorie | I think redshift has gone bipolar or so | 19:46 |
clivejo | that is odd | 19:50 |
valorie | once I turned it off in the widget the color shifts stopped, so it isn't plasma, the drivers, etc. | 20:01 |
valorie | sad, because I really like/need redshift | 20:01 |
valorie | backports is now installing on the travel laptop, but I suppose by now all the kinks have been worked out | 20:13 |
clivejo | nope | 20:13 |
clivejo | there always be bugs! | 20:14 |
valorie | I was thinking that dropbox wouldn't start, but no, it was just still syncing | 20:15 |
valorie | of course it's a rather lean lil box | 20:16 |
clivejo | is it any snappier? | 20:16 |
valorie | hard to say, it's pretty slow | 20:16 |
clivejo | I find 5.6 bit quicker | 20:16 |
acheron_uk | krunner ate my memory earlier today. not sure what caused that | 20:16 |
clivejo | login, opening apps etc seems a little faster | 20:17 |
valorie | perhaps | 20:17 |
valorie | I basically only use it to test between trips | 20:17 |
valorie | oh, I woke with a crown from one of my molars in my mouth this morning | 20:17 |
valorie | need to leave to the dentist to have that looked at/replaced/repaired | 20:18 |
clivejo | valorie: did you see yofel's question this morning? | 20:18 |
valorie | ttyl | 20:18 |
clivejo | Thomas Anderson (thomasanderson) wants to be a member of Kubuntu Ninjas - Yellow belts (kubuntu-ninjas-yellow-belts) | 20:18 |
clivejo | anyone know him? | 20:18 |
valorie | I have never heard of him | 20:19 |
valorie | I can write to him and explain that he needs to come in here and help..... | 20:19 |
valorie | after the dentist | 20:19 |
clivejo | ok, be good :) | 20:21 |
yofel | o/ | 20:21 |
clivejo | acheron_uk: do you have a LP account? | 20:22 |
acheron_uk | yes, set a fresh one up today | 20:22 |
clivejo | what is it? | 20:23 |
acheron_uk | https://launchpad.net/~acheron | 20:23 |
clivejo | nice | 20:23 |
clivejo | will you patch plasma-desktop? | 20:24 |
acheron_uk | already done it here locally | 20:25 |
clivejo | I mean for everybody | 20:25 |
acheron_uk | can make a ppa and upload to that? | 20:25 |
clivejo | do you use git? | 20:26 |
acheron_uk | sometimes, but really only for grabbing code, rather than changing or committing | 20:27 |
clivejo | do you know where we keep the packaging? | 20:27 |
acheron_uk | not on debian git any more? | 20:28 |
clivejo | correct, we moved to Launchpad | 20:29 |
clivejo | https://code.launchpad.net/~kubuntu-packagers/+git | 20:29 |
acheron_uk | got it | 20:30 |
clivejo | if you clone plasma-desktop | 20:30 |
clivejo | checkout kubuntu_xenial_backports | 20:32 |
acheron_uk | yep | 20:33 |
clivejo | do you know how to create a patch and put it into the packaging? | 20:33 |
acheron_uk | did it earlier with the package via quilt and making the edit myself | 20:34 |
clivejo | if you look in debian/patches/upstream_include_cmath_c++_fix.diff | 20:34 |
acheron_uk | assume in just the packaging only you copy in the patch and add to the series file | 20:34 |
clivejo | its an example of a patch we are applying | 20:35 |
clivejo | yup | 20:35 |
clivejo | and add a note in the changelog | 20:35 |
acheron_uk | yep, I looked at that one earler when I was modifying the package as a whole | 20:36 |
clivejo | you should also close the Launchpad bug from the changelog as well | 20:36 |
* clivejo wonders was it ever reported :/ | 20:37 | |
acheron_uk | is there a LP bug? | 20:37 |
acheron_uk | I didn't | 20:37 |
clivejo | LOL probably not! | 20:37 |
acheron_uk | as I knew it was kde upstream | 20:37 |
clivejo | you could refer to the KDE bug you got the patch from | 20:38 |
clivejo | just make a brief note of what the patch does, makes it easier for the next person to know it needs to be removed in the next release | 20:38 |
acheron_uk | this is what I did earlier | 20:39 |
acheron_uk | 2 secs | 20:39 |
acheron_uk | http://paste.ubuntu.com/16665468/ | 20:40 |
clivejo | looks good | 20:41 |
clivejo | what did you call the file? | 20:41 |
clivejo | the patch | 20:41 |
acheron_uk | just 'fix_kicker_recent_documents.diff' | 20:41 |
clivejo | can you put upstream_fix_kicker_recent_documents.diff | 20:42 |
acheron_uk | yes | 20:42 |
clivejo | just allows us to see at a glance that its came from upstream and can be removed the next staging we do :) | 20:42 |
acheron_uk | done | 20:43 |
clivejo | and you change it in the series files too | 20:43 |
clivejo | can I see your changelog entry? | 20:44 |
acheron_uk | gimme a sec | 20:44 |
acheron_uk | http://paste.ubuntu.com/16665626/ as I was only doing it for me | 20:48 |
clivejo | !info plasma-desktop | 20:51 |
ubottu | plasma-desktop (source: plasma-desktop): Tools and widgets for the desktop. In component universe, is optional. Version 4:5.5.5-0ubuntu1 (yakkety), package size 1575 kB, installed size 7751 kB | 20:51 |
clivejo | I would add a bit more detail about the patch | 20:53 |
clivejo | its name mainly | 20:53 |
acheron_uk | git doesn't match the backports? https://git.launchpad.net/~kubuntu-packagers/kubuntu-packaging/+git/plasma-desktop/tree/debian/changelog?h=kubuntu_xenial_backports | 20:54 |
acheron_uk | at least the ppa changelog and versions anyway | 20:55 |
clivejo | yeah | 20:55 |
clivejo | backports is basically a PPA | 20:55 |
clivejo | so we dont care too much about the version numbers | 20:56 |
clivejo | the main archive on the other hand is different! | 20:56 |
clivejo | https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/plasma-desktop | 20:57 |
clivejo | version 4:5.6.4-0ubuntu1 is in proposed | 20:57 |
clivejo | so for yakkety archive changelog we would have to make a new version ubuntu2 | 20:58 |
acheron_uk | I get that. | 20:58 |
acheron_uk | Just looking to do a ppa version on xenial, then surely CL should follow on from the one in ppa rather than the archive version in YY? | 20:59 |
clivejo | from my point of view, we usually work on devel then backport it | 21:00 |
clivejo | that tends to be our workflow | 21:00 |
acheron_uk | unless you just don't care and treat each a a separate backport? | 21:00 |
acheron_uk | ah... as I was typing, you obviously do | 21:01 |
acheron_uk | that is fine | 21:01 |
acheron_uk | so now have http://paste.ubuntu.com/16665949/ | 21:07 |
clivejo | ah I modified its a bit for you :P# | 21:07 |
acheron_uk | no probs | 21:08 |
clivejo | https://git.launchpad.net/~kubuntu-packagers/kubuntu-packaging/+git/plasma-desktop/commit/?h=kubuntu_yakkety_archive&id=517d50e0fb280940f3372918771fcb77b8715c27 | 21:08 |
acheron_uk | fair enough in yy :) | 21:09 |
acheron_uk | XX to match then | 21:10 |
clivejo | so its building in the staging PPA - https://launchpad.net/~kubuntu-ppa/+archive/ubuntu/staging-plasma/+packages?field.name_filter=plasma-desktop&field.status_filter=published&field.series_filter=yakkety | 21:11 |
acheron_uk | cool | 21:11 |
acheron_uk | seems I've acquired a yellow belt while I wasn't looking :) | 21:13 |
clivejo | indeed ! | 21:13 |
* acheron_uk watches build in LP. zzzzzzzzzzzzzz.... | 21:17 | |
clivejo | yeah, this is the boring bit! | 21:17 |
clivejo | waiting forever for it to publish | 21:17 |
acheron_uk | burger will take ages to publish as well, I bet | 21:17 |
acheron_uk | pretty straight forward | 21:19 |
clivejo | yeah, you got all the basics, just need to learn how to apply it :) | 21:20 |
acheron_uk | as said, I tinker and rebuild stuff for myself | 21:21 |
acheron_uk | just a case of adapting to a more formal way | 21:21 |
clivejo | where did you learn how to package? | 21:21 |
acheron_uk | myself, just wanting to modify some things the way I wanted them | 21:22 |
acheron_uk | used to do the same a bit on mandrake/mandriva with rpms | 21:23 |
clivejo | I wouldnt know where to start in Mandrake | 21:24 |
clivejo | I have a little bit of a spite against Mandrake though! | 21:24 |
acheron_uk | rmp spec files are *fun* | 21:24 |
acheron_uk | why? | 21:24 |
clivejo | it was the first ever distro I ever tried, I got a box set | 21:25 |
clivejo | and it blew up my new monitor | 21:25 |
clivejo | by jacking up the refresh rate! | 21:25 |
clivejo | I was as sick as a dog over that | 21:25 |
clivejo | the monitor was like £600 at the time | 21:26 |
acheron_uk | ouch! | 21:26 |
clivejo | have you heard of kubuntu-automation ? | 21:27 |
acheron_uk | mandrake was the first I tried as well I think. got a copy/cds from uni | 21:27 |
acheron_uk | heard of it? yes. maybe clicked a link? yes. recall what on earth it was? not so sure | 21:27 |
clivejo | from what I remember this was like 20 floppy discs! | 21:28 |
clivejo | https://git.launchpad.net/~kubuntu-packagers/+git/kubuntu-automation/tree/ | 21:28 |
clivejo | this is what we call KA, an attempt to lighten the load and automate the packaging process | 21:29 |
acheron_uk | hah! yes I seen that. | 21:29 |
clivejo | once Id pushed your patch/changelog to Launchpad I used git-buildpackage-ppa | 21:30 |
clivejo | that automatically goes off and downloads the source code, packages it all up, ready for upload to LP | 21:30 |
acheron_uk | nice | 21:31 |
clivejo | yes, its got some nice tools for making things a bit easier | 21:31 |
clivejo | do-all goes into every folder in your current directory and runs the command you give it | 21:32 |
acheron_uk | with the number of packages in kde imagine pretty essential | 21:32 |
clivejo | git-clone-all will go grab all the packaging from Launchpad | 21:33 |
clivejo | have you a KDE ID? | 21:34 |
acheron_uk | that readme is a tad short! | 21:34 |
clivejo | LOL yup | 21:34 |
clivejo | unfortuately documentation is a bit lacking | 21:34 |
acheron_uk | KDE ID in what sense? | 21:34 |
acheron_uk | just have bug.kde account | 21:35 |
clivejo | can you access this - https://notes.kde.org/p/kubuntu-packaging | 21:36 |
clivejo | with your KDE ID | 21:36 |
acheron_uk | page is not even loading here ATM | 21:38 |
clivejo | arrrr | 21:38 |
acheron_uk | 502 Bad Gateway | 21:38 |
clivejo | Bad Gateway | 21:38 |
clivejo | well thats useful!! | 21:38 |
clivejo | well that *was* an attempt to better document it! | 21:39 |
acheron_uk | I look another day if it'll let me in | 21:40 |
* clivejo kicks KDE Notes and LP | 21:41 | |
acheron_uk | I presume? https://identity.kde.org/index.php?r=site/login | 21:41 |
clivejo | yes | 21:42 |
clivejo | but that page will ask you for it | 21:42 |
clivejo | well it should! | 21:42 |
acheron_uk | can't log inot the main identity site, so presuming a bugs.kde account is not enough | 21:45 |
clivejo | soee_: ping | 21:46 |
soee_ | clivejo: pong | 21:48 |
acheron_uk | YY published, VM updated, rebooted, and bug 'seems' fixed | 22:13 |
clivejo | LOL, Im still downloading | 22:17 |
acheron_uk | XX updated as well, but I'd already 'fixed' it, so should in effect be a no change package replacement | 22:18 |
acheron_uk | not slow broadband here, but no fibre yet either | 22:19 |
clivejo | acheron_uk: yup, thats fixes for me too :) | 22:24 |
clivejo | Id like a couple more testers before moving to backports | 22:24 |
clivejo | anyone up for it? | 22:25 |
acheron_uk | would be wise. had a couple of crashes with krunner today that I'm reasonably sure are just coincidence, but you never know. | 22:26 |
clivejo | thats the problem, things are interlinked | 22:27 |
clivejo | fixing one thing could break something else! | 22:27 |
acheron_uk | indeed | 22:28 |
acheron_uk | right. gotta give up for this evening. zzzzzz | 22:29 |
clivejo | yeah, its getting late | 22:29 |
acheron_uk | thanks for the small 'tour' | 22:29 |
clivejo | no problem | 22:30 |
clivejo | hope we see more of you :) | 22:30 |
acheron_uk | I'll pop back in tomorrow, and looks like I've all but booked a place in that 'dojo' later in week :P | 22:31 |
acheron_uk | night | 22:32 |
clivejo | night night | 22:32 |
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