[04:36] <TheMarius> syspect the "bug" regarding my mate miniprogram indicator was because of a propietary bios update
[04:36] <TheMarius> suspect
[04:39] <TheMarius> nope that wasnt it!
[04:39] <TheMarius> :(
[05:34] <MReeves> Good evening/morning/afternoon depending on your location
[10:15] <krasi> zdrawejte
[12:17] <staeksauce> there's about an inch width on the side of one of my monitors where I can't put icons and windows won't maximize past it. Any idea what might cause that?
[13:02] <ebeyer_> Any of you guys running Ubuntu MATE on the Pi 3?
[13:19] <mate|63065> hello everybody
[13:20] <mate|63065> could some one help me with Ubuntu mate ?
[14:50] <mate|7079> hey guys tried upgrading to 16.04 from 14.04 and in uefi mode Grub is missing, in standard mode, I get the iframas (believe i spelled that right) terminal page but cn't type anything in. I download the iso through torrent and used unetbootin to make the boot image on my flash drive, did I screw up somewhere?
[14:55] <gordonjcp> mate|7079: can you boot the USB stick at all?
[14:55] <mate|7079> yes
[14:55] <gordonjcp> and it boots to a normal desktop, if you click "Try Ubuntu"?
[14:56] <mate|7079> redownloading the image now to see if that's the issue
[14:56] <mate|7079> didn't try that tbh just went straight to install
[15:02] <mate|7079> so reimaging the flash drive again will try the try ubuntu route and report back
[15:04] <gordonjcp> also I don't really bother with unetbootin since I've never got it to work ever
[15:04] <gordonjcp> I just copy it to the stick with dd
[15:04] <mate|7079> kinda hard to do that on windows tho....
[15:05] <mate|7079> ok rebooting now
[15:17] <guest1450> hey guys no earlier I mentioned the issues I was having installing 16.04 I am in the live system atm but still having issues with the installation
[15:17] <guest1450> so*
[15:48] <guest1540> ok update so in live system working on boot repair with interesting commands
[15:49] <guest1540> ubuntu-mate@ubuntu-mate:~$ sudo chroot "/mnt/boot-sav/sdb1" dpkg --configure -a
[15:49] <guest1540> Setting up shim-signed (1.12+0.8-0ubuntu2) ...
[15:49] <guest1540> Installing for x86_64-efi platform.
[15:49] <guest1540> grub-install: error: cannot find EFI directory.
[15:49] <guest1540> dpkg: error processing package shim-signed (--configure):
[15:49] <guest1540>  subprocess installed post-installation script returned error exit status 1
[15:49] <guest1540> Setting up grub-efi-amd64-signed (1.66+2.02~beta2-36ubuntu3) ...
[15:49] <guest1540> Installing for x86_64-efi platform.
[15:49] <guest1540> grub-install: error: cannot find EFI directory.
[15:49] <guest1540> dpkg: error processing package grub-efi-amd64-signed (--configure):
[15:49] <guest1540>  subprocess installed post-installation script returned error exit status 1
[15:49] <guest1540> Errors were encountered while processing:
[15:49] <guest1540>  shim-signed
[15:50] <guest1540>  grub-efi-amd64-signed
[15:50] <guest1540> ubuntu-mate@ubuntu-mate:~$ sudo chroot "/mnt/boot-sav/sdb1" apt-get install -fy
[15:50] <guest1540> Reading package lists... Done
[15:50] <guest1540> Building dependency tree
[15:50] <guest1540> Reading state information... Done
[15:50] <guest1540> 0 upgraded, 0 newly installed, 0 to remove and 105 not upgraded.
[15:50] <guest1540> 2 not fully installed or removed.
[15:50] <guest1540> After this operation, 0 B of additional disk space will be used.
[15:50] <guest1540> Setting up grub-efi-amd64-signed (1.66+2.02~beta2-36ubuntu3) ...
[15:50] <guest1540> Installing for x86_64-efi platform.
[15:50] <guest1540> grub-install: error: cannot find EFI directory.
[15:50] <guest1540> dpkg: error processing package grub-efi-amd64-signed (--configure):
[15:50] <guest1540>  subprocess installed post-installation script returned error exit status 1
[15:50] <guest1540> Setting up shim-signed (1.12+0.8-0ubuntu2) ...
[15:50] <guest1540> Installing for x86_64-efi platform.
[15:50] <guest1540> grub-install: error: cannot find EFI directory.
[15:50] <guest1540> dpkg: error processing package shim-signed (--configure):
[15:50] <guest1540>  subprocess installed post-installation script returned error exit status 1
[15:50] <guest1540> Errors were encountered while processing:
[15:50] <guest1540>  grub-efi-amd64-signed
[15:50] <guest1540>  shim-signed
[15:50] <guest1540> E: Sub-process /usr/bin/dpkg returned an error code (1)
[15:50] <guest1540> ubuntu-mate@ubuntu-mate:~$ sudo chroot "/mnt/boot-sav/sdb1" apt-get purge -y --force-yes grub*-common grub-common:i386 shim-signed linux-signed*
[15:50] <guest1540> Reading package lists... Done
[15:50] <guest1540> Building dependency tree
[15:50] <guest1540> Reading state information... Done
[15:50] <guest1540> Note, selecting 'grub-common' for glob 'grub*-common'
[15:51] <guest1540> Note, selecting 'grub2-common' for glob 'grub*-common'
[15:51] <guest1540> Note, selecting 'linux-signed-image-generic-lts-wily' for glob 'linux-signed*'
[15:51] <guest1540> Note, selecting 'linux-signed-generic-lts-wily' for glob 'linux-signed*'
[15:51] <guest1540> Note, selecting 'linux-signed-generic-lts-utopic' for glob 'linux-signed*'
[15:51] <guest1540> Note, selecting 'linux-signed-image-lowlatency-lts-xenial' for glob 'linux-signed*'
[15:51] <guest1540> Note, selecting 'linux-signed-image-4.4.0-21-generic' for glob 'linux-signed*'
[15:51] <guest1540> Note, selecting 'linux-signed-image-4.4.0-22-lowlatency' for glob 'linux-signed*'
[15:51] <guest1540> Note, selecting 'linux-signed-lowlatency-lts-wily' for glob 'linux-signed*'
[15:51] <guest1540> Note, selecting 'linux-signed-image-generic' for glob 'linux-signed*'
[15:51] <guest1540> Note, selecting 'linux-signed-image-4.4.0-22-generic' for glob 'linux-signed*'
[15:51] <guest1540> Note, selecting 'linux-signed-lowlatency-lts-xenial' for glob 'linux-signed*'
[15:51] <guest1540> Note, selecting 'linux-signed-image-lowlatency-lts-wily' for glob 'linux-signed*'
[15:51] <guest1540> Note, selecting 'linux-signed-lowlatency' for glob 'linux-signed*'
[15:51] <guest1540> Note, selecting 'linux-signed-generic' for glob 'linux-signed*'
[15:51] <guest1540> Note, selecting 'linux-signed-image-generic-lts-xenial' for glob 'linux-signed*'
[15:51] <guest1540> Note, selecting 'linux-signed-image-4.4.0-21-lowlatency' for glob 'linux-signed*'
[15:51] <guest1540> Note, selecting 'linux-signed-generic-lts-xenial' for glob 'linux-signed*'
[15:51] <guest1540> Note, selecting 'linux-signed-image-generic-lts-utopic' for glob 'linux-signed*'
[15:51] <ouroumov> flood
[15:51] <guest1540> Note, selecting 'linux-signed-generic-lts-vivid' for glob 'linux-signed*'
[15:51] <guest1540> Note, selecting 'linux-signed-image-lowlatency' for glob 'linux-signed*'
[15:51] <guest1540> Note, selecting 'linux-signed-image-generic-lts-vivid' for glob 'linux-signed*'
[15:51] <guest1540> Package 'linux-signed-image-4.4.0-21-lowlatency' is not installed, so not removed
[15:51] <guest1540> Package 'grub-common:i386' is not installed, so not removed. Did you mean 'grub-common'?
[15:51] <guest1540> Package 'linux-signed-generic-lts-utopic' is not installed, so not removed
[15:51] <guest1540> Package 'linux-signed-generic-lts-vivid' is not installed, so not removed
[15:51] <guest1540> Package 'linux-signed-generic-lts-wily' is not installed, so not removed
[15:51] <guest1540> Package 'linux-signed-generic-lts-xenial' is not installed, so not removed
[15:51] <guest1540> Package 'linux-signed-image-4.4.0-22-lowlatency' is not installed, so not removed
[15:52] <guest1540> Package 'linux-signed-image-generic-lts-utopic' is not installed, so not removed
[15:52] <guest1540> Package 'linux-signed-image-generic-lts-vivid' is not installed, so not removed
[15:52] <guest1540> Package 'linux-signed-image-generic-lts-wily' is not installed, so not removed
[15:52] <guest1540> Package 'linux-signed-image-generic-lts-xenial' is not installed, so not removed
[15:52] <ouroumov> flexiondotorg, ubottu could cap that using quiet &ban if he was opped I think
[15:52] <guest1540> Package 'linux-signed-image-lowlatency' is not installed, so not removed
[15:52] <guest1540> Package 'linux-signed-image-lowlatency-lts-wily' is not installed, so not removed
[15:52] <guest1540> Package 'linux-signed-image-lowlatency-lts-xenial' is not installed, so not removed
[15:52] <guest1540> Package 'linux-signed-lowlatency' is not installed, so not removed
[15:52] <guest1540> Package 'linux-signed-lowlatency-lts-wily' is not installed, so not removed
[15:52] <guest1540> Package 'linux-signed-lowlatency-lts-xenial' is not installed, so not removed
[15:52] <guest1540> The following package was automatically installed and is no longer required:
[15:52] <guest1540>   shim
[15:52] <guest1540> Use 'sudo apt autoremove' to remove it.
[15:52] <guest1540> The following additional packages will be installed:
[15:52] <guest1540>   ubiquity-ubuntu-artwork
[15:52] <guest1540> The following packages will be REMOVED:
[15:52] <guest1540>   grub-common* grub-efi-amd64* grub-efi-amd64-bin* grub-efi-amd64-signed*
[15:52] <guest1540>   grub2-common* grub2-themes-ubuntu-mate* linux-signed-generic*
[15:52] <guest1540>   linux-signed-image-4.4.0-21-generic* linux-signed-image-4.4.0-22-generic*
[15:52] <guest1540>   linux-signed-image-generic* shim-signed* ubiquity* ubiquity-frontend-gtk*
[15:52] <guest1540>   ubuntu-mate-core* ubuntu-mate-desktop*
[15:52] <guest1540> The following packages will be upgraded:
[15:52] <guest1540>   ubiquity-ubuntu-artwork
[15:52] <guest1540> 1 upgraded, 0 newly installed, 15 to remove and 102 not upgraded.
[15:52] <guest1540> 2 not fully installed or removed.
[15:52] <guest1540> Need to get 0 B/525 kB of archives.
[15:52] <guest1540> After this operation, 39.1 MB disk space will be freed.
[15:52] <guest1540> (Reading database ... 234837 files and directories currently installed.)
[15:53] <guest1540> Removing grub-efi-amd64-signed (1.66+2.02~beta2-36ubuntu3) ...
[15:53] <guest1540> Removing shim-signed (1.12+0.8-0ubuntu2) ...
[15:53] <guest1540> Removing ubuntu-mate-desktop (1.154) ...
[15:53] <guest1540> Removing grub-efi-amd64 (2.02~beta2-36ubuntu3) ...
[15:53] <guest1540> Purging configuration files for grub-efi-amd64 (2.02~beta2-36ubuntu3) ...
[15:53] <guest1540> Removing grub-efi-amd64-bin (2.02~beta2-36ubuntu3) ...
[17:16] <sixwheeledbeast> please use pastebin for that stuff...
[20:00] <Guest71395> hello everybody, I'm new on chat, searching infos about remote graphical access on a Pi2
[20:00] <Guest71395> trying ssh without success
[20:02] <Guest71395> command line ssh is ok
[20:02] <Guest71395> anyone any idea ?
[20:10] <Guest71395> somebody here ?
[20:13] <bennabiy> Guest71395: hi
[20:13] <bennabiy> What do you have installed on the Pi2?
[20:17] <Guest71395> downloaded image ubuntu-mate-16.04-beta2-desktop-armhf-rapsberry-pi
[20:19] <Guest71395> hi, thanks for answering
[20:20] <Guest71395> installation is just out-of-the-box, nothing customized yet
[21:14] <fifty-sevenC> What's up everyone:
[21:16] <Guest71395> .
[21:47] <mortox> Hola a todos
[21:48] <mortox> +i
[22:02] <villager> Can anyone inform me why software boutique isn't working?
[22:03] <villager> o wait. Looks like I'm all good.
[22:03] <villager> Just had to do a quick restart
[23:14] <ELECTRODYNAMIX> Where do I go to expand my file system?
[23:14] <fifty-sevenC> Can you explain more what it is you want to do?
[23:14] <fifty-sevenC> and the background behind the request
[23:15] <ELECTRODYNAMIX> I have an 8GB micro SD card running MATE but it only shows that i have 3.6 GB avalable.
[23:15] <ELECTRODYNAMIX> And on windows it shows that there is lots of unallocated space
[23:16] <fifty-sevenC> Well first, don't believe anything Windows says.
[23:16] <mate|35300> hey guys, could some one help me?
[23:16] <fifty-sevenC> Next, are you booting off the SD card?
[23:16] <ELECTRODYNAMIX> OK, but its true, the forum also had people saing to expland my file system on the welcome screen, but I dont know where
[23:16] <ELECTRODYNAMIX> And yes, I am booting from the SD card
[23:18] <fifty-sevenC> Are you using LVM?
[23:18] <ELECTRODYNAMIX> I dont know, I am on a raspberry pi
[23:18] <fifty-sevenC> Ok. I'm going to tell you how to do it the noob friendly way
[23:19] <fifty-sevenC> type this
[23:19] <ELECTRODYNAMIX> Ok
[23:19] <fifty-sevenC> sudo apt-get install gparted
[23:19] <ELECTRODYNAMIX> ok hold on
[23:19] <fifty-sevenC> press ctrl+alt+t to open a terminal
[23:19] <fifty-sevenC> paste that in there
[23:19] <fifty-sevenC> Use gparted to grow your volume
[23:19] <fifty-sevenC> mate|35300, Hi what did you need help with?
[23:20] <ELECTRODYNAMIX> Ok, it is installing right now
[23:22] <ELECTRODYNAMIX> Where do I launch GParted?
[23:22] <fifty-sevenC> type sudo gparted
[23:22] <fifty-sevenC> in the terminal
[23:22] <ELECTRODYNAMIX> ok
[23:23] <ELECTRODYNAMIX> Ok, it is open, what do I do next?
[23:23] <fifty-sevenC> Do what you wanted to do
[23:23] <mate|35300> hello, sorry i am new with linux
[23:24] <mate|35300> i have a 4/5 year old laptop
[23:24] <fifty-sevenC> mate|35300, Ok. What do you need help with?
[23:25] <mate|35300> and installed ubuntu mate on it the 16.04 it lagged alot , then i installed all other ubuntu then is still lagged... then i installed ubuntu mate 14.04.. now the interface is nog lagging anymore but if i go like firefox or something it still lags
[23:25] <ELECTRODYNAMIX> When I expand it, it gives me an error message
[23:26] <fifty-sevenC> mate|35300, You might want to disable compositing
[23:26] <mate|35300> what does that mean ?
[23:26] <fifty-sevenC> mate|35300, Look for MATE Tweak in your menus
[23:27] <mate|35300> its not on
[23:27] <fifty-sevenC> mate|35300, Somewhere you should have an option to pick your window manager or compositor. Just select no compositing
[23:28] <ELECTRODYNAMIX> Should I remove the SD card and try to expand on windows with my partition manager?
[23:28] <fifty-sevenC> mate|35300, Well, if your computer is slow Linux will not magically make it faster.
[23:29] <fifty-sevenC> ELECTRODYNAMIX, Windows can only resize dynamic disks, which will make it unbootable.
[23:29] <ELECTRODYNAMIX> Oh ok, not even if I use MiniTool partition manager?
[23:29] <fifty-sevenC> I never heard of minitool
[23:29] <ELECTRODYNAMIX> ok
[23:30] <ELECTRODYNAMIX> Is there any other way to expand it then?
[23:30] <ELECTRODYNAMIX> gparted always fails
[23:30] <mate|35300> yes i guess you're right... windows 7 is oke...
[23:30] <mate|35300> i tought linux would be faster
[23:31] <fifty-sevenC> ELECTRODYNAMIX, Not while it is mounted no. Try booting off a thumbdrive then using gparted to resize the sdcard
[23:31] <ELECTRODYNAMIX> I cant boot off of USB with raspberry pi
[23:31] <fifty-sevenC> ELECTRODYNAMIX, do it on a desktop or laptop then
[23:31] <ELECTRODYNAMIX> Could I use gparted on my other linix desktop?
[23:32] <fifty-sevenC> mate|35300, How much memory does your laptop have?
[23:32] <mate|35300> 4gb
[23:33] <fifty-sevenC> mate|35300, What CPU and GPU?
[23:33] <mate|35300> maybe bad drivers
[23:33] <mate|35300> AMD C60
[23:33] <mate|35300> its a APU
[23:33] <ELECTRODYNAMIX> I will try to expand my file system on the SD card with my other linux desktop computer.
[23:34] <fifty-sevenC> mate|35300, I have no experience with APUs. Try checking your menus for "Additional Drivers"
[23:35] <mate|35300> yeah i tried that already... it doesnt work... :(
[23:36] <fifty-sevenC> open a terminal and do
[23:36] <fifty-sevenC> cat /sys/class/drm/card0/device/power_dpm_state
[23:36] <fifty-sevenC> It is in performance mode?
[23:36] <mate|35300> now its says internal error
[23:36] <mate|35300> and restart
[23:37] <fifty-sevenC> mate|35300, might be something is broken in your laptop?
[23:37] <mate|35300> I want to thank you for your help
[23:37] <mate|35300> yes maybe...
[23:37] <fifty-sevenC> No problem although I wasn't able to help much
[23:38] <mate|35300> maybe i go and install the latest ubuntu mate again but then the 64 bit version
[23:38] <fifty-sevenC> 64 bit version is probably better.
[23:38] <mate|35300> yeah
[23:38] <fifty-sevenC> But just check cat /sys/class/drm/card0/device/power_dpm_state
[23:38] <mate|35300> oke
[23:39] <fifty-sevenC> If it doesn't say performance you're in low power mode
[23:40] <mate|35300> can i copy the text and put it in the terminal ?
[23:40] <fifty-sevenC> yes
[23:40] <mate|35300> how can i do it ?
[23:40] <fifty-sevenC> Just highlight it
[23:40] <mate|35300> if is do crtl V
[23:40] <fifty-sevenC> Then in the terminal right click and select paste
[23:41] <mate|35300> it says no such file in the system
[23:42] <fifty-sevenC> You should have the radeon driver installed.
[23:42] <fifty-sevenC> And that should spit out battery or performance
[23:42] <mate|35300> aaah in de amd catalist
[23:43] <mate|35300> yeah
[23:43] <mate|35300> its maximum performance
[23:43] <mate|35300> maybe i installed it wrong
[23:43] <fifty-sevenC> Where did you install that driver from?
[23:43] <mate|35300> from synaptics
[23:43] <mate|35300> or something
[23:43] <mate|35300> i saw it on youtube
[23:44] <fifty-sevenC> Did you have the problem before or after you installed the proprietary driver>
[23:45] <mate|35300> before
[23:45] <fifty-sevenC> Are you currently having the problem?
[23:45] <mate|35300> i installed the driver because i thought it was not ok
[23:46] <mate|35300> yeah with youtube and other website who are heavy
[23:46] <mate|35300> website like this i am not having the issue
[23:46] <mate|35300> the point is i really really like the ubuntu interface
[23:47] <fifty-sevenC> Ok. As long as you didn't download and run a blob off the net.
[23:47] <fifty-sevenC> And installed it through synaptic or apt
[23:47] <mate|35300> no
[23:48] <fifty-sevenC> mate|35300, A lot of people like MATE. It is why we use it
[23:48] <mate|35300> the driver is from synaptic itself
[23:48] <mate|35300> yeah
[23:48] <fifty-sevenC> You're also free to modify it or try other desktops like openbox
[23:48] <mate|35300> btw i am on a netbook
[23:49] <fifty-sevenC> Cool beans
[23:49] <mate|35300> well i tried lubuntu today
[23:49] <mate|35300> but also the same problem
[23:50] <mate|35300> i thought maybe my cpu just dont fit linux
[23:50] <fifty-sevenC> Well now you know you need the proprietary driver
[23:51] <mate|35300> yeah
[23:51] <mate|35300> i did that with additional driver
[23:52] <mate|35300> i know amd's website also offers driver
[23:52] <fifty-sevenC> Don't use the drivers on the AMD site
[23:52] <fifty-sevenC> Everytime a kernel patch is released you'll have to recompile with no DE
[23:53] <mate|35300> hehehe to be honest i dont know what you mean
[23:53] <mate|35300> its to difficult
[23:54] <mate|35300> but where would you take the driver from ?
[23:54] <fifty-sevenC> Don't install the driver from the website
[23:55] <mate|35300> yes that part understand :D
[23:56] <fifty-sevenC> It means if you do, next time a kernel update comes out you will have to fix it from a blinking black cursor.
[23:57] <mate|35300> aaah oke :P
[23:57] <mate|35300> i will install the latest ubuntu mate
[23:58] <fifty-sevenC> Don't
[23:58] <mate|35300> ?
[23:58] <fifty-sevenC> No proprietary drivers in 16.04 yet
[23:58] <mate|35300> ow
[23:58] <mate|35300> 15.10 then?
[23:59] <fifty-sevenC> Look for "Software & Updates"
[23:59] <fifty-sevenC> turn on backports
[23:59] <fifty-sevenC> That will get you newer packages