| cmaloney | https://blog.bandcamp.com/2016/05/19/bandcamp-downloads-streaming-and-the-inescapably-bright-future/ | 00:44 |
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| cmaloney | http://openmetalcast.com/2016/05/23/open-metalcast-episode-130-continuing-voyages/ | 03:52 |
| cmaloney | If you can't find something in this episode to like then you're probably incapable of love. | 03:52 |
| cmaloney | morning | 13:12 |
| rick_h_ | morning | 13:22 |
| jrwren | MORNING! | 13:35 |
| rick_h_ | someone's chipper | 13:38 |
| cmaloney | Someone's in AOL mode | 13:38 |
| cmaloney | Must be the AOL stock is finally turning around on news of Verizon buying them. | 13:38 |
| jrwren | O_O VZ is buying AOL!?!? wtfff?!!? | 13:42 |
| jrwren | first bayer monstanto, now this!?!? | 13:43 |
| * jrwren head exploes | 13:43 | |
| cmaloney | to be fair, Verizon came first. | 13:43 |
| cmaloney | But apparetnly Bayer is working to consolidate the evil | 13:44 |
| jrwren | i'm wondering how being DE owned might change MON | 13:44 |
| cmaloney | If it makes their hearts grow ten times larger that would be a good thing | 13:45 |
| cmaloney | assuming their hearts aren't already 0. | 13:45 |
| rick_h_ | 10*0 = ? | 13:45 |
| cmaloney | 10 * 0 = 0 | 13:45 |
| cmaloney | ;) | 13:45 |
| rick_h_ | hah! | 13:45 |
| cmaloney | Doesn't Bayer do patent shakedowns as well? | 13:46 |
| cmaloney | it's hard to keep track of the evil in the world | 13:47 |
| * cmaloney checks to see if there's an asshole watch site out there. | 13:47 | |
| mrgoodcat | yea there is: http://www.nytimes.com/interactive/2016/us/elections/election-2016.html | 13:48 |
| cmaloney | Apparently someone registered "assholewatch.com" which points to the Apple Watch. | 13:49 |
| cmaloney | That is a missed opportunity | 13:49 |
| Scary_Guy | why, what do you think it should point to? | 15:03 |
| Scary_Guy | apple is pretty evil | 15:04 |
| Scary_Guy | them fighting for encryption is the best thing they've done in a loooong time | 15:04 |
| jrwren | how is apple evil? | 15:06 |
| jrwren | of the big 5 tech companies, apple seems to be the less evil of the 5. | 15:07 |
| jrwren | least evil of the 5, i mean. | 15:07 |
| rick_h_ | hmm, ratings in terms of number of devil's horns you earn | 15:09 |
| rick_h_ | 2 evil horns, 4 evil horns... | 15:09 |
| Scary_Guy | jrwren, you sound like a voter "well this candidate isn't as evil as the others" | 15:11 |
| jrwren | lol. | 15:11 |
| jrwren | no no. | 15:11 |
| jrwren | i'd just like to learn about specifics. | 15:11 |
| jrwren | i hear people say "apple are evil" all the time, but I rarely hear specifics. | 15:11 |
| Scary_Guy | well, I prefer android since I can take google's bloat off it | 15:11 |
| jrwren | 'cept maybe when they were under heat for foxconn workers pressures. | 15:12 |
| Scary_Guy | apple locks you into it and actively tries to disable your attempts to jailbreak it | 15:12 |
| jrwren | that is evil? | 15:12 |
| jrwren | we apparently have different definitions of evil. | 15:12 |
| Scary_Guy | I buy the device, I should be able to do what I want with the device | 15:12 |
| jrwren | lock in may not be a feature you want, but I don't consider it evil. | 15:12 |
| jrwren | its fine if its not the product you want. | 15:12 |
| Scary_Guy | closed source is evil too, no peer review | 15:13 |
| jrwren | lol! | 15:13 |
| jrwren | ya know what! I like your values more than my own. | 15:13 |
| jrwren | Its been so long since i've heard the "closed source is evil" that i forgot it was a thing. | 15:14 |
| Scary_Guy | maybe it's better now that Tim is running things but when Steve was you were literally trusting a sociopath | 15:14 |
| jrwren | so.. you run android without google play store? | 15:15 |
| jrwren | what do you use for cloud services? anything? owncloud? other? | 15:15 |
| Scary_Guy | no play anything, no maps, none of it | 15:15 |
| Scary_Guy | f-droid.org | 15:15 |
| Scary_Guy | all FOSS apps | 15:16 |
| jrwren | awesome. | 15:16 |
| Scary_Guy | the only people who don't want me rooting my phone and throwing custom ROMs on it are the carriers, google's android literally doesn't care and encourages it | 15:16 |
| Scary_Guy | I wish we had more support and activity from things like #replicant though | 15:17 |
| jrwren | there are so many old apple devices out there, its a shame there isn't an alt OS to put on an old iphone4 or an old ipad1 | 15:18 |
| Scary_Guy | have you heard of pineapple? | 15:18 |
| Scary_Guy | I think that's the name | 15:19 |
| Scary_Guy | http://lifehacker.com/5693309/how-to-install-android-on-an-iphone-in-six-easy-steps | 15:20 |
| Scary_Guy | I've done that and it ran like dogshit but it ran! | 15:21 |
| Scary_Guy | got super hot too | 15:21 |
| Scary_Guy | but yeah, that's the other thing, if you have a dead phone it's basically only good for a music player | 15:22 |
| jrwren | its not maintained is it? | 15:24 |
| jrwren | what do you mean dead phone & music player? | 15:24 |
| Scary_Guy | not anymore | 15:24 |
| jrwren | if it has wifi it can run any app, right? | 15:24 |
| Scary_Guy | I guess, seems kind of restrictive though | 15:25 |
| Scary_Guy | also that's the other thing, android only restricts what apps you can install until you uncheck a box | 15:25 |
| jrwren | very true. | 15:25 |
| Scary_Guy | want to install custom apps in iOS? you need to jailbreak it | 15:25 |
| jrwren | oh, that isn't true anymore. | 15:26 |
| Scary_Guy | which voids the warrenty | 15:26 |
| jrwren | you can sideload apps now. | 15:26 |
| Scary_Guy | wait they changed it? | 15:26 |
| Scary_Guy | okay that's cool | 15:26 |
| jrwren | they added it in ios9 | 15:26 |
| cmaloney | jrwren: I was thinking it would be better served as a clearinghouse of information related to bad company behavior | 15:26 |
| cmaloney | re: Apple being evil: Their stance on suing everyone and everything over patents is kind of terrible | 15:27 |
| Scary_Guy | that too | 15:27 |
| cmaloney | they're the whole reason for the look-and-feel lawsuit | 15:27 |
| cmaloney | They're definite innovators though, so I can understand their position | 15:27 |
| cmaloney | but I have a hard time with using the courts to set bad precedents | 15:28 |
| jrwren | sure, but not more evil than the other 4 in that regard. | 15:28 |
| jrwren | 'cept maybe FB. has FB ever sued over patents? | 15:28 |
| cmaloney | not sure | 15:28 |
| Scary_Guy | give it time | 15:28 |
| Scary_Guy | they own Oculus | 15:28 |
| jrwren | yup. | 15:29 |
| cmaloney | FB is evil for privacy and blatant emotional manipulation | 15:29 |
| jrwren | exactly! | 15:29 |
| jrwren | pretty much like google... at least on privacy. | 15:29 |
| cmaloney | jrwren: Not sure if you can speak to this, but I'm wondering how accurate this is: | 15:31 |
| cmaloney | https://medium.com/@ailon/how-one-announcement-destroyed-the-net-ecosystem-on-windows-19fb2ad1aa39#.1gpmnd4iw | 15:31 |
| jrwren | i only barely follow .net these days. | 15:33 |
| cmaloney | That's what I figured | 15:34 |
| jrwren | zomg cmaloney YES! | 15:34 |
| jrwren | that is exactly why I gave up on .NET and MSFT. | 15:34 |
| jrwren | but not for the reasons listed here. | 15:35 |
| jrwren | although these are all great points, and probably better than my reasons. | 15:35 |
| cmaloney | OK, I wasn't sure. It sseems like the transision to W8 / W10 from a developer perspective is muddy at best | 15:36 |
| cmaloney | from W7 | 15:36 |
| jrwren | the winrt thing was/IS fucking terrible. | 15:36 |
| jrwren | when I saw them abandon the win32 api and say, "use this winrt shit" it made zero sense. | 15:36 |
| jrwren | it still makes zero sense. | 15:36 |
| jrwren | its a shit api | 15:37 |
| jrwren | the people who approved it should be fired. | 15:37 |
| Scary_Guy | speaking of evil companies | 15:37 |
| cmaloney | It felt like they were trying to make a JVM-ish doo-dad into the main interface | 15:37 |
| cmaloney | which sort of made sense | 15:37 |
| cmaloney | Scary_Guy: Sad thing is MSFT is busily neutering themselves | 15:37 |
| jrwren | yup, speaking of evil companies. | 15:38 |
| Scary_Guy | https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=L_vcy7I0zIM reminds me of this too | 15:38 |
| jrwren | great ignite talk! | 15:42 |
| Scary_Guy | ikr? | 15:44 |
| cmaloney | Woo! New Pebble Kickstarter | 16:23 |
| jrwren | i just had full vi rage. | 16:26 |
| jrwren | I didn't know how to use vi, because I am accustomed to vim. | 16:26 |
| rick_h_ | cmaloney: new toy? | 16:26 |
| rick_h_ | jrwren: heh, like getting stuck in bash | 16:27 |
| rick_h_ | "wtf!!! this doesn't work right!" | 16:27 |
| jrwren | that happened to me last week. my brain couldn't switch to bash mode, i kept typing vim nav commands and it was easier to just set -o vi | 16:27 |
| cmaloney | rick_h_: Think I'm going to pass on this one | 16:39 |
| cmaloney | Built-in HR is not a feature I need ATM | 16:39 |
| rick_h_ | cmaloney: HR? | 17:01 |
| cmaloney | Hert Rate monitor | 17:14 |
| cmaloney | jrwren: https://twitter.com/MattMEgan5/status/735153349650190337 | 17:16 |
| cmaloney | "Breaking: Monsanto rejects Bayer’s $62 billion takeover bid, calling it ‘incomplete & financially inadequate.' But $MON open to deal talks" | 17:16 |
| jrwren | lol | 17:17 |
| cmaloney | Something tells me they're looking for Facebook numbers. | 17:18 |
| cmaloney | https://twitter.com/jniccolai | 18:39 |
| cmaloney | We're fucked | 18:39 |
| cmaloney | https://twitter.com/jniccolai/status/735169829183705088 | 18:39 |
| cmaloney | start from here | 18:39 |
| cmaloney | Apparently the jury for the Google / Oracle trial is trying to look at the source for Java | 18:43 |
| cmaloney | and having a hell of a time because of the number of folders in there. | 18:43 |
| _stink_ | gahahaha | 18:43 |
| _stink_ | this is awesome | 18:43 |
| cmaloney | https://twitter.com/sarahjeong as well | 18:44 |
| cmaloney | she's been awesome live-tweeting this whole trial | 18:44 |
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