[00:44] https://blog.bandcamp.com/2016/05/19/bandcamp-downloads-streaming-and-the-inescapably-bright-future/ [03:52] http://openmetalcast.com/2016/05/23/open-metalcast-episode-130-continuing-voyages/ [03:52] If you can't find something in this episode to like then you're probably incapable of love. [13:12] morning [13:22] morning [13:35] MORNING! [13:38] someone's chipper [13:38] Someone's in AOL mode [13:38] Must be the AOL stock is finally turning around on news of Verizon buying them. [13:42] O_O VZ is buying AOL!?!? wtfff?!!? [13:43] first bayer monstanto, now this!?!? [13:43] * jrwren head exploes [13:43] to be fair, Verizon came first. [13:44] But apparetnly Bayer is working to consolidate the evil [13:44] i'm wondering how being DE owned might change MON [13:45] If it makes their hearts grow ten times larger that would be a good thing [13:45] assuming their hearts aren't already 0. [13:45] 10*0 = ? [13:45] 10 * 0 = 0 [13:45] ;) [13:45] hah! [13:46] Doesn't Bayer do patent shakedowns as well? [13:47] it's hard to keep track of the evil in the world [13:47] * cmaloney checks to see if there's an asshole watch site out there. [13:48] yea there is: http://www.nytimes.com/interactive/2016/us/elections/election-2016.html [13:49] Apparently someone registered "assholewatch.com" which points to the Apple Watch. [13:49] That is a missed opportunity [15:03] why, what do you think it should point to? [15:04] apple is pretty evil [15:04] them fighting for encryption is the best thing they've done in a loooong time [15:06] how is apple evil? [15:07] of the big 5 tech companies, apple seems to be the less evil of the 5. [15:07] least evil of the 5, i mean. [15:09] hmm, ratings in terms of number of devil's horns you earn [15:09] 2 evil horns, 4 evil horns... [15:11] jrwren, you sound like a voter "well this candidate isn't as evil as the others" [15:11] lol. [15:11] no no. [15:11] i'd just like to learn about specifics. [15:11] i hear people say "apple are evil" all the time, but I rarely hear specifics. [15:11] well, I prefer android since I can take google's bloat off it [15:12] 'cept maybe when they were under heat for foxconn workers pressures. [15:12] apple locks you into it and actively tries to disable your attempts to jailbreak it [15:12] that is evil? [15:12] we apparently have different definitions of evil. [15:12] I buy the device, I should be able to do what I want with the device [15:12] lock in may not be a feature you want, but I don't consider it evil. [15:12] its fine if its not the product you want. [15:13] closed source is evil too, no peer review [15:13] lol! [15:13] ya know what! I like your values more than my own. [15:14] Its been so long since i've heard the "closed source is evil" that i forgot it was a thing. [15:14] maybe it's better now that Tim is running things but when Steve was you were literally trusting a sociopath [15:15] so.. you run android without google play store? [15:15] what do you use for cloud services? anything? owncloud? other? [15:15] no play anything, no maps, none of it [15:15] f-droid.org [15:16] all FOSS apps [15:16] awesome. [15:16] the only people who don't want me rooting my phone and throwing custom ROMs on it are the carriers, google's android literally doesn't care and encourages it [15:17] I wish we had more support and activity from things like #replicant though [15:18] there are so many old apple devices out there, its a shame there isn't an alt OS to put on an old iphone4 or an old ipad1 [15:18] have you heard of pineapple? [15:19] I think that's the name [15:20] http://lifehacker.com/5693309/how-to-install-android-on-an-iphone-in-six-easy-steps [15:21] I've done that and it ran like dogshit but it ran! [15:21] got super hot too [15:22] but yeah, that's the other thing, if you have a dead phone it's basically only good for a music player [15:24] its not maintained is it? [15:24] what do you mean dead phone & music player? [15:24] not anymore [15:24] if it has wifi it can run any app, right? [15:25] I guess, seems kind of restrictive though [15:25] also that's the other thing, android only restricts what apps you can install until you uncheck a box [15:25] very true. [15:25] want to install custom apps in iOS? you need to jailbreak it [15:26] oh, that isn't true anymore. [15:26] which voids the warrenty [15:26] you can sideload apps now. [15:26] wait they changed it? [15:26] okay that's cool [15:26] they added it in ios9 [15:26] jrwren: I was thinking it would be better served as a clearinghouse of information related to bad company behavior [15:27] re: Apple being evil: Their stance on suing everyone and everything over patents is kind of terrible [15:27] that too [15:27] they're the whole reason for the look-and-feel lawsuit [15:27] They're definite innovators though, so I can understand their position [15:28] but I have a hard time with using the courts to set bad precedents [15:28] sure, but not more evil than the other 4 in that regard. [15:28] 'cept maybe FB. has FB ever sued over patents? [15:28] not sure [15:28] give it time [15:28] they own Oculus [15:29] yup. [15:29] FB is evil for privacy and blatant emotional manipulation [15:29] exactly! [15:29] pretty much like google... at least on privacy. [15:31] jrwren: Not sure if you can speak to this, but I'm wondering how accurate this is: [15:31] https://medium.com/@ailon/how-one-announcement-destroyed-the-net-ecosystem-on-windows-19fb2ad1aa39#.1gpmnd4iw [15:33] i only barely follow .net these days. [15:34] That's what I figured [15:34] zomg cmaloney YES! [15:34] that is exactly why I gave up on .NET and MSFT. [15:35] but not for the reasons listed here. [15:35] although these are all great points, and probably better than my reasons. [15:36] OK, I wasn't sure. It sseems like the transision to W8 / W10 from a developer perspective is muddy at best [15:36] from W7 [15:36] the winrt thing was/IS fucking terrible. [15:36] when I saw them abandon the win32 api and say, "use this winrt shit" it made zero sense. [15:36] it still makes zero sense. [15:37] its a shit api [15:37] the people who approved it should be fired. [15:37] speaking of evil companies [15:37] It felt like they were trying to make a JVM-ish doo-dad into the main interface [15:37] which sort of made sense [15:37] Scary_Guy: Sad thing is MSFT is busily neutering themselves [15:38] yup, speaking of evil companies. [15:38] https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=L_vcy7I0zIM reminds me of this too [15:42] great ignite talk! [15:44] ikr? [16:23] Woo! New Pebble Kickstarter [16:26] i just had full vi rage. [16:26] I didn't know how to use vi, because I am accustomed to vim. [16:26] cmaloney: new toy? [16:27] jrwren: heh, like getting stuck in bash [16:27] "wtf!!! this doesn't work right!" [16:27] that happened to me last week. my brain couldn't switch to bash mode, i kept typing vim nav commands and it was easier to just set -o vi [16:39] rick_h_: Think I'm going to pass on this one [16:39] Built-in HR is not a feature I need ATM [17:01] cmaloney: HR? [17:14] Hert Rate monitor [17:16] jrwren: https://twitter.com/MattMEgan5/status/735153349650190337 [17:16] "Breaking: Monsanto rejects Bayer’s $62 billion takeover bid, calling it ‘incomplete & financially inadequate.' But $MON open to deal talks" [17:17] lol [17:18] Something tells me they're looking for Facebook numbers. [18:39] https://twitter.com/jniccolai [18:39] We're fucked [18:39] https://twitter.com/jniccolai/status/735169829183705088 [18:39] start from here [18:43] Apparently the jury for the Google / Oracle trial is trying to look at the source for Java [18:43] and having a hell of a time because of the number of folders in there. [18:43] <_stink_> gahahaha [18:43] <_stink_> this is awesome [18:44] https://twitter.com/sarahjeong as well [18:44] she's been awesome live-tweeting this whole trial