/srv/irclogs.ubuntu.com/2016/05/24/#ubuntu-za.txt

mazalMornings05:22
mazalmaaz tell Kilos Leaving your Telkom mobile router on does NOT work for using midnight data. Seems you must reset it after midnight like some users suggests. I tested last night with a DL through the night and all my normal data was used and none of my midnight data was used at all. Left router on and didn't reset it after midnight05:26
Maazmazal: Sure, I'll tell Kilos on freenode05:26
Kiloshi mazal inetpro nlsthzn theblazehen tahaan MaNL and other peeps05:30
mazalMôre oom05:34
mazalMy boodskap gekry ?05:34
Kilosja dankie05:34
Kilosmy bundle is enige tyd05:35
mazalOnthou ons het daarvan gepraat net toe ek my mobile gekry het. En meeste mense het gesê jy moet reset en ander het gesê dis nie nodig nie05:36
mazalWel ek het nou getoets en mens moet reset na middernag05:36
mazalOp my account anyway , ek weet nie hoekom dit vir sekeres nie nodig is nie05:37
Kilosai!05:38
mazalbrrrrrrrrr06:00
Kilosyip freezing06:00
mazalAnother day for abuse of coffee06:00
Kiloshi drussell you ok?06:03
theblazehenhi Kilos06:11
theblazehenhi mazal. Wonder if the router has some kind of api? Restart it on a cron06:12
mazalMorning theblazehen06:23
inetprogood mornings06:50
Kiloso/06:50
inetpromazal: if you start a long download session before midnight it will continue using normal data 06:50
mazalIt's stay up till midnight if I want to use it I guess06:51
inetprotry pause the download for a minute or two around midnight then start a new session to continue the process06:52
inetprobut if you want to be 100% sure just restart the router06:54
mazalBig blue don't have scheduling and neither does the router that I can find , so manually at midnight seems to be the only way06:54
inetprobig blue?06:55
mazalPS406:55
mazalThat's the big data eater. had 11gig of updates last night06:55
mazaltheblazehen, googling didn't suggest that the router has something like that. Will have a look in it's interface tonight what might be there06:57
theblazehenmazal: Diy ;)06:57
mazalTimer on the power plug lol :P07:03
mazalHey , that might actually work07:03
mazalYummy: http://mybroadband.co.za/news/hardware/165996-dell-43-inch-ultra-hd-4k-multiple-input-monitor-pricing-released.html 07:14
mazalBut check the price :P07:14
theblazehenmazal: Don't want to load a browser, how much is it?07:28
mazal$134907:28
theblazehenOuch07:30
theblazehenMy 28 or 27" was just under R10k, a lot cheaper..07:30
mazalAlso a 4K screen ?07:32
theblazehenYeah07:34
theblazehenAnd got 25 or 26" 2560p for less thank 6k :)07:34
theblazehenthan*07:35
chesedomorning all08:50
theblazehenhey chesedo. How's things?08:53
chesedogreat ty theblazehen, and self?08:54
theblazehenI'm alright ty chesedo. FInally got my .vimrc perfect :)08:55
chesedotheblazehen: i know what vim is but what's an rc one?08:55
theblazehenchesedo: Config file for vim08:55
chesedooh i see08:56
mazaloom Kilos , why you send me the newsletter ?09:34
Kilosso you have something to read that will help keep your ming of games09:35
mazalI don't read09:35
Kilosand so you can see the number of non fixed bugs09:35
mazalah , I thought is about the bugs. Yeah 122k open bugs is a lot hey09:35
Kilosyeah09:35
mazalTalking about the fun side of things, I just watched a reviews of a racing wheel for the PS4 :P09:36
mazalOnly R5000 :P09:36
Kilosai!09:36
mazalI decied no , just no09:37
mazaldecided*09:37
Kilosyay09:41
pavlushka-Hello every one!11:08
* Kilos waves11:08
theblazehenHey pavlushka-!11:09
theblazehenHow are you?11:09
pavlushka-I am okay, thanks and  how are you?11:10
theblazehen:(11:37
theblazehenMy vm host disappeared..11:37
theblazehenWith both things I was working on being in VMs11:37
theblazehenThe nic is up, but the host is down11:37
theblazehenA single disk failiure in a 2 disk raid 1 won't cause this right?11:38
paddatrappertheblazehen: Raid 1 is mirrored, so no it shouldn't11:50
theblazehenpaddatrapper: Yeah, thought to. Had drives fail before, no issues11:50
theblazehenActually, even 2 disk failiure should still let me ping it. Running with the ram cache etc11:51
paddatrapperYeah. Host down is generally caused by something else...11:51
theblazehenpaddatrapper: :( Idk if I want to find out..11:53
theblazehenBetter not be motherboard / cpu11:53
theblazehenI bought 32 GB ddr 3 ram. Would hate to upgrade *now* to ddr 4 seeing as I have less than 100 useful hours used with that ram :(11:54
Kilossjoe11:54
theblazehenYeah :( But don't know what else11:55
theblazehenOh. Hmm. I had a power switch thing connected 11:56
theblazehenor wait11:56
theblazehenKeyboard had a power button. Maybe dog stood on it or something :)11:56
theblazehenI hope11:56
paddatrapperFingers crossed!11:58
theblazehen4 hours before I get home..11:59
* paddatrapper temporarily uncrosses his fingers12:00
chesedoKilos: who is handling the meeting tonight?13:53
Kilosoh my14:02
Kilosyou of course  but we havent even sent out notifications14:02
Kilosi totally missed that tonight is the meeting14:03
Kiloshi superfly 14:03
Kilosinetpro ^^14:04
klaasvakieallo14:20
klaasvakieI'm on 16.04 and trying to get "predictable interface names" disabled properly. I've used "ln -s /dev/null /etc/udev/rules.d/80-net-setup-link.rules" from here: https://www.freedesktop.org/wiki/Software/systemd/PredictableNetworkInterfaceNames/14:21
klaasvakieThat works for my wireless interface, but USB ethernet dongles still produce garbage like: enx3c18a0050d8514:22
theblazehenklaasvakie: That is not how I think of predictable.. Also, welcome14:23
klaasvakieyes, I don't really want to redo my firewall rules every time I grab a different dongle from the pile :(14:24
klaasvakieMaybe I'll go ask in #systemd14:25
theblazehenklaasvakie: https://wiki.archlinux.org/index.php/Network_configuration#Change_device_name try setting the names directly?14:25
theblazehenRather than disabling predicitble name14:25
klaasvakieThat requires me to now the MAC address though14:26
klaasvakienow=know14:26
theblazehenWhy do you need to disable it? Do you use it on different computers?14:28
Kiloshi klaasvakie 14:28
klaasvakiewe usually have a usb-ethernet dongle hanging from the management port at each client site14:28
klaasvakieI'm not really interested in learning what all their mac addressed are14:29
klaasvakiehi Kilos14:29
theblazehenklaasvakie: Okay. And you need the name for use in scripts?14:30
klaasvakieyes, specifically the iptables script that stops all my laptop nasties from escaping onto the client network14:30
Kiloslol14:31
klaasvakieas sexy as my avahi broadcasts are for finding printers, our clients do not appreciate them14:31
theblazehenHmm. Don't have a solution now sorry14:38
klaasvakietheblazehen, it's actually ubuntu and not systemd:14:43
klaasvakiecat 73-special-net-names.rules14:43
klaasvakie # Use MAC based names for network interfaces which are directly or indirectly14:43
klaasvakie # on USB and have an universally administered (stable) MAC address (second bit14:43
klaasvakie # is 0).14:43
klaasvakie #ACTION=="add", SUBSYSTEM=="net", SUBSYSTEMS=="usb", NAME=="", ATTR{address}=="?[014589cd]:*", IMPORT{builtin}="net_id", NAME="$env{ID_NET_NAME_MAC}"14:43
theblazehenklaasvakie: Ah. Glad you solved it then14:44
zeorinhey everyone. Go to http://ubuntu.co.za/ and have a cup full of irony15:01
theblazehenzeorin: Hehe :)15:04
klaasvakiethanks for the help theblazehen, Kilos have a nice night :)15:10
theblazehenGlad to help klaasvakie15:11
klaasvakiecheers15:11
Kiloschesedo you still here?15:57
Kilosinetpro didnt update the topic even15:58
Kilossjoe15:58
Kilosoh15:58
Kiloshe did15:58
Kilosim the one thats lost15:58
chesedoKilos: yes15:58
chesedo... to the question that is :P15:58
Kiloslol15:59
Kilosi just sent a mail reminder15:59
Kiloscan you do the G+ thing please15:59
chesedothat is the biggest net-split i've seen (only 3 of us were left)16:00
chesedoKilos: on it...16:00
Kiloshasnt affect me at all16:00
chesedothen maybe i was one that was 'kicked'16:01
Kiloslol16:01
Kilosdifferent server that crashed16:01
Kilosinetpro please can you send a reminder in ubuntuza on the tweet place16:06
Kilosim sukkeling16:06
* Kilos apologises to inetpro16:06
LangjanKilos write to this guy and give him a piece of your mind: http://www.aph.gov.au/Senators_and_Members/Parliamentarian?MPID=00AOL16:08
Kiloswill do ty Langjan 16:08
* chesedo is done16:08
LangjanStrongs with the meeting16:08
Kilosty oom16:09
LangjanI will try kde so you can stop hassling me, lmga 16:09
Kiloshahahaha16:09
Langjanthought to install on a spare hdd or how to do?16:10
Kilosthats a plan16:10
LangjanDo I install a fresh 14.04 and then tweak it?16:10
Kiloswhen i started i put it on a small spare drive16:10
Kilosno get the kubuntu iso16:10
Langjanoh16:11
Kilosits in version 2 or 3 already16:11
LangjanI thik I already have it16:11
LangjanI have mint, lubuntu16:11
Kilosno man16:12
Kilosai! ek sukkel16:12
Langjannope, no kubuntu, ok will get it16:12
Kiloswag ek soek16:12
Langjanno worry will google it16:12
Kiloshttps://www.google.co.za/url?sa=t&rct=j&q=&esrc=s&source=web&cd=1&cad=rja&uact=8&ved=0ahUKEwiGpsOxjfPMAhVkLsAKHVT1BXkQFggbMAA&url=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.kubuntu.org%2Fgetkubuntu%2F&usg=AFQjCNH40A25VTSZUBmxOHEkhzhf6IMZIA&sig2=TxYiDXeX1Tm1zRIu1qotBg16:13
Kilos14.04.416:13
Langjanok will do, just wait till after month-end, my data is running a bit low 16:14
Langjanwill 64 bit run? my system is 32 bit but I see they say 32 bit is for less than 2GB ram? 16:16
Kilosthats painful when that happens16:16
Kilosoh my16:16
Kilos32 bit will work as well16:16
LangjanI have 4 GB ram16:16
Kilos64bit will tell you to upgrade your machine16:17
Kilosi have 4g as well16:17
Langjanby doing what?16:17
Kilosmore ram is always better16:17
Langjanupgrade what?16:17
Kilosmotherboard16:17
Kilosfor a 64bit one16:17
Langjanoh, ok will stick with 32 bit 16:17
Kilos32 bit will run fine16:18
Kilossometime in the near future i think everything will be 64bit16:18
Kilosbut keep your machine till then16:18
Langjanhow much data will iso take to download?16:18
Kilosmotherboard change isnt a big job but costly16:19
Kiloscost me R2500 to build up my 64 bit machine16:19
Langjaneish! too much16:20
LangjanI see download is 1GB, will do in June16:20
Kilosi saved for 2.5 years to get the parts16:20
Kilosmuch faster16:21
Langjanalthough data is only R5 per Gb16:21
Kiloswow thats cheap16:21
LangjanYes but its only 2Mbps16:22
Kilosouch16:23
Kiloswhen you get that iso use wget -c link16:23
Kilosfaster than via browser16:23
Langjanwhats that?16:24
Kilosin terminal you type that in16:24
Langjanyes I gathered as much but does that take you to the download? 16:24
Kilosone the site where you see the isos you right click the one you want and copy link16:24
Langjanso why the link?16:25
Kilosthen you type the command with the link where i said link16:25
Kiloswell16:25
Kiloswget must know where to fetch it16:25
Kiloshi magespawn 16:25
magespawnhi Kilos 16:25
Langjanhi magespawn 16:25
LangjanOK Kilos write to that politician soon, so he has your mail when he gets to his office in a few hours time16:27
Kiloslol16:27
Kilosty for that info16:27
Langjanask him why they brag about 30 days then let you wait 6 mths plus16:28
Kilosi will add all relevant info16:28
LangjanGood, and have a good meeting, gonna love and leave you16:28
Langjanmaybe peek in a bit later16:29
Kilosty  sir sleep tight16:29
Kilosok good16:29
Langjanyou too thks kil16:29
LangjanKilos, 16:29
Kiloslol16:29
Kilostab fail16:29
LangjanI hit the caps lock every time16:29
Kiloslol16:29
Langjanmooi loop16:30
Kilosjy ook dankie16:30
Kilosai!16:30
magespawnso first day at the new job16:33
chesedoKilos: you seem to have forgotten to answer... has anyone taken charge of tonight's meeting yet?16:33
chesedowow congrats magespawn, you like it so far?16:33
Kilosnope no one chesedo 16:34
chesedoKilos: oh ok :( ... but guess what?16:34
Kiloswhat?16:34
chesedogreat guess that :P16:35
Kilosyou available to chair?16:35
* chesedo no longer has an exam tomorrow16:35
magespawnfortgot about that16:35
Kilosyay16:35
magespawnforgot too16:35
magespawnexcellent chesedo 16:35
chesedoyeah decided that i'll just skip it....16:36
Kiloswhy16:36
chesedo... (masive joke that) so don't worry Kilos16:36
magespawnhmmm16:37
chesedono my exams got moved around...16:37
* magespawn was about to open a can of wip ass16:37
Kiloshaha16:37
chesedoso think i did that one yesterday - still have to check which one it was16:37
Kilosoh my16:38
Kilosi thought i was forgetful16:38
chesedomagespawn: they still come in cans? :P16:38
magespawni am relatively old, i bought a lot, soit might be a bit stale16:39
magespawn* so it16:39
Kiloslol16:39
* chesedo only wrote all the important dates on a year planner... and last looked at it a month ago (cold kept him from the outer office)16:40
Kiloslol16:40
chesedomagespawn: by stale you suggesting that the sting will be more or less acute than usual?16:41
magespawni might have to shake it around a bit16:42
chesedolol ok16:42
* chesedo wbb16:42
magespawnright on my way home, will try to be online for the meeting17:09
=== chesedo- is now known as chesedo
chesedoKilos: i cannot edit the agenda (wiki page)???18:06
Kilosoh my18:07
Kiloswiki lock down because of spammers18:07
Kiloswhat do you want to add lad?18:07
Kilosdoes it tell you immutable page18:08
Kiloschesedo can you find the link in wiki for our team please18:14
Kilossorry , i dont think you will be able to tonight, but it will work next meeting or in a couple of days time18:15
chesedoyes 'immutable page' - just want to change the chair18:15
Kiloswhat is the link i will change it18:16
Kilosi hope i can18:16
chesedohttps://wiki.ubuntu.com/ZATeam/Meetings/2016052418:16
Kilosty its done18:17
chesedoKilos: ^^18:17
chesedo... no longer 'unknown' :P18:17
Kiloshehe18:17
Kilosi think they have made it ubuntu members only18:17
chesedono Kilos it should be 'known' :P18:18
Kilosbut ill have it sorted18:18
Kilosoh18:18
chesedolol kidding18:18
Kilossjoe18:18
Kilosi was back there again18:18
chesedoyeah and i started stressing18:19
Kiloswhat is the link on wiki for ubuntu-za team18:19
chesedohi tahaan, first time i've seen you here?18:19
Kilosill ask for them all to be allowed18:19
Kilospro said so a week ago and i forgot18:20
chesedoKilos: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/ZATeam18:20
Kiloshi tahaan 18:20
Kilosty chesedo i mailed rt@ubuntu.com18:24
Kilosi dont know who actually does that job18:25
Kilosai!18:25
Kilosinetpro vloek my18:25
Kilosohi superfly 18:28
superflyhi18:28
Kiloshi skokkk 18:29
chesedooh boy, hope my internet holds...18:30
chesedoanyway...18:30
chesedoMaaz: start meeting about Ubuntu Monthly Meeting - May 201618:30
* Maaz gets out his memo-pad and cracks his knuckles18:30
chesedoMaaz: topic Welcoming and Introduction18:30
MaazCurrent Topic: Welcoming and Introduction18:30
chesedoWelcome all and thanks for joining in on our meeting this evening18:30
mazalmaaz I am Wikus18:30
Maazmazal: Righto18:30
KilosMaaz I am Miles Sharpe18:31
MaazKilos: Done18:31
chesedoOur  bot Maaz will do the minutes as usual so please introduce yourselves to him using `Maaz: I am <firstname lastname>` eg.18:31
chesedoMaaz: I am Pieter Engelbrecht18:31
Maazchesedo: Okay18:31
chesedoToday's meeting agenda can be found at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/ZATeam/Meetings/2016052418:31
chesedoany last minute changes is welcome18:31
Kilosmazal die van der merwe deel ook18:31
mazalmaaz I am Wikus avn Dyk18:32
Maazmazal: Okay18:32
superflyMaaz: I am Raoul Snyman18:32
Maazsuperfly: Alrighty18:32
chesedoMaaz: topic Review minutes of previous meeting18:32
MaazCurrent Topic: Review minutes of previous meeting18:32
superfly(but I'm not really here)18:32
chesedothe last meeting's minutes is at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/ZATeam/Meetings/2016042618:32
Kilosi have apologies from kmf, he has sick kids to care for18:33
chesedosuperfly: will you be able to give us an update on debConf later?18:33
chesedoGoing over the previous minutes might help as a refresher18:33
Kilosnlsthzn you joining?18:33
chesedodoes anyone have something they want to raise from the previous minutes?18:34
chesedoMaaz: agreed No one has an issue with previous minutes18:35
MaazAgreed: No one has an issue with previous minutes18:35
chesedoMaaz: topic Plans for 201618:35
MaazCurrent Topic: Plans for 201618:35
chesedois there any one needing help signing up for some or with Ubuntu membership?18:35
Kilosai!18:36
Kiloseveryone is afk18:36
chesedoUbuntu for Hope has no current updates that i am aware of - still have to create its website18:36
Kilosyes18:36
chesedoKilos:  so i see18:36
Kilosthere is a guy in capetown that is wanting to do the same there18:37
chesedohas kapanda joined us again?18:37
Kiloshe has only used mail so far18:37
Kilospeeps forget irc18:37
chesedoKilos: almost... just somewhat in reverse18:37
mazalWhat is the Ubuntu for hope ?18:38
Kilosdo you have the links chesedo 18:38
chesedowell kapanda is the cpt guy and in Jan's meeting he mentioned signing for ubuntu membership...18:38
Kilosits building pcs for others that cant afford them mazal 18:38
chesedohttps://ubuntuforhope.org/ 18:38
mazalk18:38
Kiloshe hasnt chesedo 18:39
Kiloshe will need to do lots more first18:39
KilosMaaz seen inetpro 18:40
MaazKilos: inetpro was last seen 11 hours, 44 minutes and 48 seconds ago in #ubuntu-za on freenode [2016-05-23 23:55:22 PDT], and has been online on freenode since 2016-05-22 07:43:15 PDT18:40
chesedomazal: https://bin.snyman.info/mmmzy8ce18:40
mazalThanx chesedo18:41
chesedoall ok if i move on to events18:41
Kilosyessir18:41
chesedoMaaz: topic Events18:41
MaazCurrent Topic: Events18:41
chesedoUbuntu for Hope's launch was in late April... kmf and I (with friends and family) enjoyed a mild morning in Pretoria's Betanical gardens to celebrate it18:42
chesedoseems like we have nothing upcoming this June?18:42
chesedoKilos: you tried to orgainze a rp?18:43
* chesedo hopes superfly is available soon for a debConf update...18:43
Kilosthat is a mail to the guys that control who has access to wiki pages18:44
chesedorp = release party18:44
chesedoto get cds and stuff...18:44
Kilosoh that18:44
Kiloswe need to first give all the info about the event before we can order the flash disks18:45
Kilosso we have let it slide18:45
chesedook so no flashes this release...18:45
Kilossec18:45
chesedosec for 'wait a second' or 'secondar'18:46
Kiloswait a minute18:46
Kiloshehe18:46
Kilosim in contact with the guy who gives wiki permissions18:47
mazalOi I almost said something now :P18:47
LangjanKilos,  whats the drill to report again plse?18:47
mazalNaand oom Jan18:47
Kilosi need the link for all our member on the wiki page we made18:47
Langjanhi mazal 18:47
* tahaan bows to chesedo18:47
Kilosi cant find it18:48
chesedook so we can move topics Kilos?18:48
* tahaan bows to Kilos18:48
paddatrapperSorry I'm busy with DebConf meeting 18:48
Kiloshi Langjan tahaan 18:48
mazalLangjan, just say maaz I am name surname18:48
* chesedo claps hands and bows back to tahaan18:48
LangjanMaaz, I am Jan Greeff18:48
MaazLangjan: Sure18:48
chesedos/claps/clasps/18:48
Langjantahaan?18:48
Kilosai!18:49
Kilos <deej> Kilos: I'm going to need the team to be moderated or restricted before we do that18:49
magespawnhi all18:49
Langjanhi magespawn 18:49
Langjanhi tahaan 18:49
Kiloshi magespawn Langjan tahaan login please18:49
magespawnMaaz I am Greg Eames18:50
Maazmagespawn: Yessir18:50
chesedopaddatrapper: will you maybe be able to give us an update on it in a bit (if possible)?18:50
paddatrapperchesedo: sure18:50
paddatrapperJust ping me when you want it18:50
chesedopaddatrapper: you can start typing and just throw it in...18:51
chesedoMaaz: topic DebConf volunteers/update18:51
MaazCurrent Topic: DebConf volunteers/update18:51
chesedokmf also mentioned that he will be able to volunteer on-site at debConf (@paddatrapper, @superfly)18:52
superflysorry, i'm in as18:52
superfly*another meeting18:53
paddatrapperWell it's happening. Everything seems on track. Bursaries are mostly finalised and re-confirmation emails have been sent out 18:53
paddatrapperQuotes for various things are being decided on at the moment 18:53
* chesedo hopes Cryterion & Vince made that list18:53
chesedopaddatrapper: great sounds like progress is going fast...18:54
paddatrapperkmf should join the #debconf-team channel on oftc and say how he wants to help 18:54
paddatrapperchesedo: yup! A month left until it starts 18:54
chesedopaddatrapper: righto18:54
chesedoMaaz: agreed volunteers for debConf should join #debconf-team on oftc (irc.debian.org)18:55
MaazAgreed: volunteers for debConf should join #debconf-team on oftc (irc.debian.org)18:55
chesedoty for the update paddatrapper18:55
Kiloswhats oftc18:56
paddatrapperKilos: The IRC server Debian uses 18:56
Kilosoh ty18:56
chesedoMaaz: topic Miscellaneous18:57
MaazCurrent Topic: Miscellaneous18:57
chesedoanyone that spots ubuntu in the wild can add the listing to out trello page18:57
mazalYou mean if we see someone else using it ?18:58
chesedoKilos: i see we still have to clean trello up18:58
Kiloseeeeek18:58
paddatrapperOne lab at uct (Shuttleworth Lab) though currently effectively shutdown 18:59
chesedomazal: like when you spot it at the kfc terminal / toll road ticketing system18:59
mazalk18:59
* chesedo might have a listing of train 'monitoring' systems using ubuntu19:00
chesedono one here that joined mentioned coming from redit (from last agenda)19:01
chesedo*?19:01
Kilosnope19:02
chesedoKilos: do we also still have to look up the logs on the Cpt installFest?19:03
Kilosi dont think so chesedo 19:03
Kilosthere has been no feedback19:03
Kiloseveryone is too busy19:03
chesedoso we can remove it from the agenda?19:04
Kilosyes19:04
Kilosoh19:04
Kiloscan you keep records of what needs doing19:04
chesedoMaaz: agreed To remove Cpt installFest from agenda19:05
MaazAgreed: To remove Cpt installFest from agenda19:05
chesedoMaaz: agreed To clean Trello page19:05
MaazAgreed: To clean Trello page19:05
chesedoMaaz: you need a TASK action19:06
Maazchesedo: Sorry...19:06
chesedowell that seems to be it, anything i missed?19:06
Kilosnope19:06
chesedoMaaz: topic Elect chairperson for next meeting19:06
MaazCurrent Topic: Elect chairperson for next meeting19:06
tahaanKilos: Nickserv says I'm authenticated.19:07
Kilosnext month should be better19:07
chesedoyip, hope so19:07
tahaanHello langjan19:07
Kilostell more tahaan 19:07
chesedowill i be chairing?19:07
Kilosof course19:08
magespawn+119:08
chesedolol19:08
Kiloschesedo +119:08
chesedoMaaz: agreed chesedo to chair next meeting19:08
MaazAgreed: chesedo to chair next meeting19:08
tahaanKilos - Nothing to tell really.19:08
chesedoMaaz: topic Next meeting19:08
MaazCurrent Topic: Next meeting19:08
tahaanKinders ek gaan nou slaap.19:08
inetproMaaz: I am Gustav H Meyer19:08
Maazinetpro: Righto19:08
tahaanbye!19:08
* tahaan waves19:08
inetprogood evening19:08
chesedoMaaz: agreed Next meeting is 28 June 2016 @ 20:3019:08
MaazAgreed: Next meeting is 28 June 2016 @ 20:3019:08
Kilosthat means it recognises you tahaan 19:08
chesedoinetpro: you just in time :D19:09
inetproyikes, our chair is in a hurry this evening?19:09
chesedoMaaz: end meeting19:09
MaazMeeting Ended19:09
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Kiloslol19:09
Langjanhi inetpro 19:09
=== MaN1 is now known as MaNI
Kilospehaps you late inetpro 19:09
inetprosjoe!19:09
* inetpro thought our meetings go for an hour19:09
chesedonope, the chair was mostly talking to the air19:09
inetprosorry for being late19:10
Kilosyou are forgiven19:10
Kilosdont let it happen again'19:10
Kiloshehe19:10
inetproja baas19:10
Kilosall ok inetpro ?19:10
inetprogood, good, and there?19:10
Kiloswe have work inetpro 19:10
Kilosdeej> Kilos: I'm going to need the team to be moderated or restricted before we do that19:11
chesedoKilos and mazal (with padda voete) was only active participants so went quick19:11
Kilos[20:54] <Kilos> <deej> The owner or one of the administrators needs to change the team type to moderated or restricted19:11
Kilos[20:54] <Kilos> [20:51] <Kilos> ok will get that done when they get a break19:11
Kilos[20:54] <Kilos> [20:51] <Kilos> they at the debconf meeting at the moment19:11
Kilos[20:54] <Kilos> [20:51] <deej> And I actually want one of them to do it so they can A) vet the team membership and make sure it's all people who should be there and B) so they know why it's being changed and that it should stay that way, so it doesn't accidentally get reverted19:11
Kilos[20:54] <Kilos> [20:51] <deej> Once that happens, it's a quick change on our end19:11
chesedoMaaz: last minutes is <reply> Minutes available at json: http://maaz.mene.za.net/logs/meetings/freenode-%23ubuntu-za/2016-05-24-18-30-36.json :: txt: http://maaz.mene.za.net/logs/meetings/freenode-%23ubuntu-za/2016-05-24-18-30-36.txt :: html: http://maaz.mene.za.net/logs/meetings/freenode-%23ubuntu-za/2016-05-24-18-30-36.html19:11
Maazchesedo: I'll remember that19:11
Kilosyou getting too good at this chesedo 19:12
mazalSo to recall is ?19:12
mazalmaaz last minutes is19:12
Maazmazal: Huh?19:12
mazalmaaz last minutes19:12
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mazalah19:12
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chesedomazal: it is mainly for when i am lazy and forget to update the agenda with the minutes until just before previous meeting. then do not know where to find them19:14
Kilossjoe dankie inetpro 19:14
chesedos/previous/next/19:14
inetproKilos: where do you change the team type to moderated or restricted?19:14
mazalchesedo, that's handy , I have been looking for minutes before and couldn't find the link19:14
Kilosoh my19:14
chesedooh ok mazal, each agenda should also have that meeting's minutes as a shortcut19:15
Kilosinetpro in LP19:16
inetprosuperfly: help19:16
Kiloshe is at a meeting'19:17
inetprooops...19:17
Kilosi have left same info for him in pm19:17
inetproKilos: so, can you not see wher?19:18
inetprowhere as well19:18
Kiloswhere what?19:18
inetprowhere to change it19:18
Kiloslet me try find it19:19
inetproOwner = maiatoday19:19
Kilosoh my19:19
inetproMembership policy:  Open Team 19:19
inetprohttps://launchpad.net/~ubuntu-za19:19
Kilosty19:19
inetproModerated19:20
inetpro    Membership is closed, requires approval, and subteams must be closed. Any user can propose a new member, but team administrators approve membership. Subteams must be Moderated or Restricted. Moderated is a good choice for teams that manage things that need to be secure, like projects, branches, or PPAs, but want to encourage users to help. 19:20
inetproRestricted: Membership is closed, requires approval, and subteams must be closed. Only the team's administrators can invite a user to be a member. Subteams must be Moderated or Restricted. Restricted is a good choice for teams that manage things that need to be secure, like projects, branches, or PPAs. 19:20
Kiloswell have to ask maia to give more admin rights19:20
Kilosill ask maia to give you admin rights inetpro 19:21
inetproKilos: I'm not a member19:21
inetproI mean an official one19:21
Kilosai!19:22
Kilosthen it must be fly19:22
Kilosno19:22
Kilosif the whole team gets permission then they all can edit wiki pages19:23
inetproja, I think the fly should be an admin19:23
Kiloslol19:23
inetprodrubin is even there as admin still19:23
inetproeven tumbleweed could be our admin guy19:26
Kilosyes but they hard to contact19:26
Kilosthe admin will need to approve new members etc19:27
inetproKilos: I think you'd be the best person for that job19:27
magespawn+119:27
mazal+119:28
Kilosai!19:28
Kilosnee nee man19:28
Kilosek sukkel klaar om by te bly19:28
inetprojy doen reeds 'n mooi job by die Afrika kanaal, so jy weet hoe werk dit19:29
Kilosok ill ask maia for me as well19:29
chesedo+119:29
Kilossigh19:29
mazalDaar gaan niks groei waar daai sug geval het nie19:30
inetproand chesedo, it's time for you to sign up for membership as well19:30
Kilosim already being pushed for a loco council position man.19:32
Kiloswhen you all gonna let me rest19:32
inetproKilos: can you edit this page, https://wiki.ubuntu.com/ZATeam/Meetings/20160628?action=edit ?19:33
Kilosinetpro we are still waiting for your application as well19:33
* chesedo goes into hiding... remembers receiving something similar from Kilos about a month ago19:34
Kilosthere is no edit button man19:34
Kiloswhere does that page come from19:34
Kilosyes i can19:35
mazalNight all , sleep well19:36
Kilosnight mazal sleep well19:36
chesedonight mazal19:37
Kilosinetpro explain please19:37
chesedoit is quite clear that Kilos is able to edit... it now says his famous words 'oh my'19:37
Kiloshaha19:38
inetprolol19:40
inetprochesedo: I guess that means I don't need to explain19:40
Kiloswhy make that page19:40
Kilosexplain please19:40
LangjanSlaap lekker jongmanne!19:40
inetproKilos: it's the new agenda 19:40
Kilospretty please 19:40
chesedoKilos: when is the next meeting?19:41
Kilosjy ook dankie Langjan 19:41
inetprona Langjan19:41
Kilos28 june19:41
inetpronag*19:41
chesedonag Langjan19:41
LangjanDankie Kilos en nag inetpro 19:41
Kiloschesedo you can edit it as well19:41
chesedoKilos: nope19:41
Langjanlekker slaap chesedo 19:41
Kiloseish19:42
Kiloswhyyyyy19:42
chesedo'You are not allowed to edit this page. '19:42
Kilosai!19:42
Kilosbut its a nothing page19:43
inetproKilos: take the contents from the previous page at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/ZATeam/Meetings/20160524?action=raw19:43
inetpromodify as needed and paste into the new page19:43
Kiloseish19:43
inetproKilos: must I take you through it step by step?19:44
Kilosyou just want to add more work on me19:45
Kiloschesedo needs to be able to edit it not me man19:45
Kiloshttps://wiki.ubuntu.com/ZATeam/Meetings/2016062819:46
inetproKilos: 1. Click on the link https://wiki.ubuntu.com/ZATeam/Meetings/20160524?action=raw19:47
inetpro2. highlight everything on that page19:47
inetpro3. press Ctrl+C to copy19:47
inetpro4. open your text editor like kate19:47
inetpro5. paste the copied contents into your editor19:47
inetpro6. change any items that are relevant for the next meeting19:47
inetpro7. highlight everything and copy, paste at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/ZATeam/Meetings/20160628?action=edit19:47
Kilosis it not done19:48
inetprosjoe19:48
inetproyou are even quicker than I can type19:48
Kilosyou missed the point19:49
Kiloschesedo needs to be able to edit not me19:49
inetproyou missed the point and he can not do it sir, and neither can I19:50
inetpronow just change the date 19:50
Kiloschesedo i can give it to you in a pastebin is that ok?19:50
inetproplease19:50
Kilossigh19:51
Kilosyou happy inetpro ??19:52
Kilosi can hear him chuckling19:53
inetproNext meeting: 28 June 2016  -->> Next meeting: 26 July 2016 19:53
Kilosai!19:54
* chesedo is sitting with his popcorn watching the comedy19:54
Kilosyou are not going to rope me into doing it19:55
Kilosi asked maia to make YOU an admin19:56
inetprohaha19:57
superflywat is fout nou?19:59
inetprosuperfly: The owner or one of the administrators needs to change the team type to moderated or restricted 20:00
Kiloswe got probs with editing wiki superfly 20:00
inetproapparently in order to allow for the wiki to be edited by mambers20:00
* Kilos leaves it to inetpro20:00
inetpromembers*20:00
inetproKilos: I would not call it problems20:01
superflyinetpro: which owner where?20:01
superflywhat team?20:01
Kiloslp20:01
Kilosza team20:01
Kilosonly you and i can edit wiki pages atm20:01
inetproit's just proper administrative restrictions in order to deal with the load due to SPAM20:02
superflyI'm not an admin in the team20:02
superflystill have no idea how you think Launchpad affects MoinMoin20:02
Kilosi asked maia to add you superfly20:02
inetproI guess official ubuntu members can have edit rights on the wiki by default20:02
Kilosread your pm superfly 20:03
superflyinetpro: I've always had edit rights20:03
inetprosuperfly: I also don't know how they link that to each other20:03
Kilosthey have locked down the wiki20:03
inetprosuperfly: I can not edit any more20:03
inetpromaybe a good think20:04
inetproless work for me20:04
Kilosnono20:04
inetpro:-)20:04
Kilosyour turn will come20:04
inetproI don't necessarily want launchpad admin rights20:05
superflyI can still edit the wiki20:05
Kilosyes your are an ubuntu member20:05
superflyhave no idea why others can't or how lp links to moinmoin20:05
* inetpro is struggling to handle the current load of daily emails20:05
* Kilos also20:05
Kilosoh superfly 20:06
Kilosthey want us to restrict our team so they can give the whole team wiki acccess20:07
superflyKilos: yes, I understand that20:07
paddatrapperSo then why don't we do that?20:08
Kiloswe need the owner of our lp page to do it and give some others admin rights as well20:08
Kilosshe is very busy20:08
Kilosive asked her to add fly and i20:09
paddatrapperAh I see20:14
* paddatrapper goes back to watching series20:15
Kiloshey paddatrapper 20:15
Kilosstudy20:15
paddatrapperLol. I have been. Seeing integration problems all over the place 20:16
Kiloslol20:16
chesedooh evening superfly, sorry if i bothered you a bit much during the meeting there...20:16
chesedolol20:16
chesedoand night all20:16
paddatrapperNight chesedo20:16
Kilosnight chesedo ty for chairing20:16
chesedonp20:17
Kilosnight all. sleep tight20:22
inetprogood night peoples20:22
Kilosnag boetie20:22
magespawngood night ball20:36
magespawnall20:36
superflyMaaz: tell Kilos maiatoday made me an admin and made the team moderated20:56
Maazsuperfly: Got it, I'll tell Kilos on freenode20:56

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