[05:22] Mornings [05:26] maaz tell Kilos Leaving your Telkom mobile router on does NOT work for using midnight data. Seems you must reset it after midnight like some users suggests. I tested last night with a DL through the night and all my normal data was used and none of my midnight data was used at all. Left router on and didn't reset it after midnight [05:26] mazal: Sure, I'll tell Kilos on freenode [05:30] hi mazal inetpro nlsthzn theblazehen tahaan MaNL and other peeps [05:34] Môre oom [05:34] My boodskap gekry ? [05:34] ja dankie [05:35] my bundle is enige tyd [05:36] Onthou ons het daarvan gepraat net toe ek my mobile gekry het. En meeste mense het gesê jy moet reset en ander het gesê dis nie nodig nie [05:36] Wel ek het nou getoets en mens moet reset na middernag [05:37] Op my account anyway , ek weet nie hoekom dit vir sekeres nie nodig is nie [05:38] ai! [06:00] brrrrrrrrr [06:00] yip freezing [06:00] Another day for abuse of coffee [06:03] hi drussell you ok? [06:11] hi Kilos [06:12] hi mazal. Wonder if the router has some kind of api? Restart it on a cron [06:23] Morning theblazehen [06:50] good mornings [06:50] o/ [06:50] mazal: if you start a long download session before midnight it will continue using normal data [06:51] It's stay up till midnight if I want to use it I guess [06:52] try pause the download for a minute or two around midnight then start a new session to continue the process [06:54] but if you want to be 100% sure just restart the router [06:54] Big blue don't have scheduling and neither does the router that I can find , so manually at midnight seems to be the only way [06:55] big blue? [06:55] PS4 [06:55] That's the big data eater. had 11gig of updates last night [06:57] theblazehen, googling didn't suggest that the router has something like that. Will have a look in it's interface tonight what might be there [06:57] mazal: Diy ;) [07:03] Timer on the power plug lol :P [07:03] Hey , that might actually work [07:14] Yummy: http://mybroadband.co.za/news/hardware/165996-dell-43-inch-ultra-hd-4k-multiple-input-monitor-pricing-released.html [07:14] But check the price :P [07:28] mazal: Don't want to load a browser, how much is it? [07:28] $1349 [07:30] Ouch [07:30] My 28 or 27" was just under R10k, a lot cheaper.. [07:32] Also a 4K screen ? [07:34] Yeah [07:34] And got 25 or 26" 2560p for less thank 6k :) [07:35] than* [08:50] morning all [08:53] hey chesedo. How's things? [08:54] great ty theblazehen, and self? [08:55] I'm alright ty chesedo. FInally got my .vimrc perfect :) [08:55] theblazehen: i know what vim is but what's an rc one? [08:55] chesedo: Config file for vim [08:56] oh i see [09:34] oom Kilos , why you send me the newsletter ? [09:35] so you have something to read that will help keep your ming of games [09:35] I don't read [09:35] and so you can see the number of non fixed bugs [09:35] ah , I thought is about the bugs. Yeah 122k open bugs is a lot hey [09:35] yeah [09:36] Talking about the fun side of things, I just watched a reviews of a racing wheel for the PS4 :P [09:36] Only R5000 :P [09:36] ai! [09:37] I decied no , just no [09:37] decided* [09:41] yay [11:08] Hello every one! [11:08] * Kilos waves [11:09] Hey pavlushka-! [11:09] How are you? [11:10] I am okay, thanks and how are you? [11:37] :( [11:37] My vm host disappeared.. [11:37] With both things I was working on being in VMs [11:37] The nic is up, but the host is down [11:38] A single disk failiure in a 2 disk raid 1 won't cause this right? [11:50] theblazehen: Raid 1 is mirrored, so no it shouldn't [11:50] paddatrapper: Yeah, thought to. Had drives fail before, no issues [11:51] Actually, even 2 disk failiure should still let me ping it. Running with the ram cache etc [11:51] Yeah. Host down is generally caused by something else... [11:53] paddatrapper: :( Idk if I want to find out.. [11:53] Better not be motherboard / cpu [11:54] I bought 32 GB ddr 3 ram. Would hate to upgrade *now* to ddr 4 seeing as I have less than 100 useful hours used with that ram :( [11:54] sjoe [11:55] Yeah :( But don't know what else [11:56] Oh. Hmm. I had a power switch thing connected [11:56] or wait [11:56] Keyboard had a power button. Maybe dog stood on it or something :) [11:56] I hope [11:58] Fingers crossed! [11:59] 4 hours before I get home.. [12:00] * paddatrapper temporarily uncrosses his fingers [13:53] Kilos: who is handling the meeting tonight? [14:02] oh my [14:02] you of course but we havent even sent out notifications [14:03] i totally missed that tonight is the meeting [14:03] hi superfly [14:04] inetpro ^^ [14:20] allo [14:21] I'm on 16.04 and trying to get "predictable interface names" disabled properly. I've used "ln -s /dev/null /etc/udev/rules.d/80-net-setup-link.rules" from here: https://www.freedesktop.org/wiki/Software/systemd/PredictableNetworkInterfaceNames/ [14:22] That works for my wireless interface, but USB ethernet dongles still produce garbage like: enx3c18a0050d85 [14:23] klaasvakie: That is not how I think of predictable.. Also, welcome [14:24] yes, I don't really want to redo my firewall rules every time I grab a different dongle from the pile :( [14:25] Maybe I'll go ask in #systemd [14:25] klaasvakie: https://wiki.archlinux.org/index.php/Network_configuration#Change_device_name try setting the names directly? [14:25] Rather than disabling predicitble name [14:26] That requires me to now the MAC address though [14:26] now=know [14:28] Why do you need to disable it? Do you use it on different computers? [14:28] hi klaasvakie [14:28] we usually have a usb-ethernet dongle hanging from the management port at each client site [14:29] I'm not really interested in learning what all their mac addressed are [14:29] hi Kilos [14:30] klaasvakie: Okay. And you need the name for use in scripts? [14:30] yes, specifically the iptables script that stops all my laptop nasties from escaping onto the client network [14:31] lol [14:31] as sexy as my avahi broadcasts are for finding printers, our clients do not appreciate them [14:38] Hmm. Don't have a solution now sorry [14:43] theblazehen, it's actually ubuntu and not systemd: [14:43] cat 73-special-net-names.rules [14:43] # Use MAC based names for network interfaces which are directly or indirectly [14:43] # on USB and have an universally administered (stable) MAC address (second bit [14:43] # is 0). [14:43] #ACTION=="add", SUBSYSTEM=="net", SUBSYSTEMS=="usb", NAME=="", ATTR{address}=="?[014589cd]:*", IMPORT{builtin}="net_id", NAME="$env{ID_NET_NAME_MAC}" [14:44] klaasvakie: Ah. Glad you solved it then [15:01] hey everyone. Go to http://ubuntu.co.za/ and have a cup full of irony [15:04] zeorin: Hehe :) [15:10] thanks for the help theblazehen, Kilos have a nice night :) [15:11] Glad to help klaasvakie [15:11] cheers [15:57] chesedo you still here? [15:58] inetpro didnt update the topic even [15:58] sjoe [15:58] oh [15:58] he did [15:58] im the one thats lost [15:58] Kilos: yes [15:58] ... to the question that is :P [15:59] lol [15:59] i just sent a mail reminder [15:59] can you do the G+ thing please [16:00] that is the biggest net-split i've seen (only 3 of us were left) [16:00] Kilos: on it... [16:00] hasnt affect me at all [16:01] then maybe i was one that was 'kicked' [16:01] lol [16:01] different server that crashed [16:06] inetpro please can you send a reminder in ubuntuza on the tweet place [16:06] im sukkeling [16:06] * Kilos apologises to inetpro [16:08] Kilos write to this guy and give him a piece of your mind: http://www.aph.gov.au/Senators_and_Members/Parliamentarian?MPID=00AOL [16:08] will do ty Langjan [16:08] * chesedo is done [16:08] Strongs with the meeting [16:09] ty oom [16:09] I will try kde so you can stop hassling me, lmga [16:09] hahahaha [16:10] thought to install on a spare hdd or how to do? [16:10] thats a plan [16:10] Do I install a fresh 14.04 and then tweak it? [16:10] when i started i put it on a small spare drive [16:10] no get the kubuntu iso [16:11] oh [16:11] its in version 2 or 3 already [16:11] I thik I already have it [16:11] I have mint, lubuntu [16:12] no man [16:12] ai! ek sukkel [16:12] nope, no kubuntu, ok will get it [16:12] wag ek soek [16:12] no worry will google it [16:13] https://www.google.co.za/url?sa=t&rct=j&q=&esrc=s&source=web&cd=1&cad=rja&uact=8&ved=0ahUKEwiGpsOxjfPMAhVkLsAKHVT1BXkQFggbMAA&url=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.kubuntu.org%2Fgetkubuntu%2F&usg=AFQjCNH40A25VTSZUBmxOHEkhzhf6IMZIA&sig2=TxYiDXeX1Tm1zRIu1qotBg [16:13] 14.04.4 [16:14] ok will do, just wait till after month-end, my data is running a bit low [16:16] will 64 bit run? my system is 32 bit but I see they say 32 bit is for less than 2GB ram? [16:16] thats painful when that happens [16:16] oh my [16:16] 32 bit will work as well [16:16] I have 4 GB ram [16:17] 64bit will tell you to upgrade your machine [16:17] i have 4g as well [16:17] by doing what? [16:17] more ram is always better [16:17] upgrade what? [16:17] motherboard [16:17] for a 64bit one [16:17] oh, ok will stick with 32 bit [16:18] 32 bit will run fine [16:18] sometime in the near future i think everything will be 64bit [16:18] but keep your machine till then [16:18] how much data will iso take to download? [16:19] motherboard change isnt a big job but costly [16:19] cost me R2500 to build up my 64 bit machine [16:20] eish! too much [16:20] I see download is 1GB, will do in June [16:20] i saved for 2.5 years to get the parts [16:21] much faster [16:21] although data is only R5 per Gb [16:21] wow thats cheap [16:22] Yes but its only 2Mbps [16:23] ouch [16:23] when you get that iso use wget -c link [16:23] faster than via browser [16:24] whats that? [16:24] in terminal you type that in [16:24] yes I gathered as much but does that take you to the download? [16:24] one the site where you see the isos you right click the one you want and copy link [16:25] so why the link? [16:25] then you type the command with the link where i said link [16:25] well [16:25] wget must know where to fetch it [16:25] hi magespawn [16:25] hi Kilos [16:25] hi magespawn [16:27] OK Kilos write to that politician soon, so he has your mail when he gets to his office in a few hours time [16:27] lol [16:27] ty for that info [16:28] ask him why they brag about 30 days then let you wait 6 mths plus [16:28] i will add all relevant info [16:28] Good, and have a good meeting, gonna love and leave you [16:29] maybe peek in a bit later [16:29] ty sir sleep tight [16:29] ok good [16:29] you too thks kil [16:29] Kilos, [16:29] lol [16:29] tab fail [16:29] I hit the caps lock every time [16:29] lol [16:30] mooi loop [16:30] jy ook dankie [16:30] ai! [16:33] so first day at the new job [16:33] Kilos: you seem to have forgotten to answer... has anyone taken charge of tonight's meeting yet? [16:33] wow congrats magespawn, you like it so far? [16:34] nope no one chesedo [16:34] Kilos: oh ok :( ... but guess what? [16:34] what? [16:35] great guess that :P [16:35] you available to chair? [16:35] * chesedo no longer has an exam tomorrow [16:35] fortgot about that [16:35] yay [16:35] forgot too [16:35] excellent chesedo [16:36] yeah decided that i'll just skip it.... [16:36] why [16:36] ... (masive joke that) so don't worry Kilos [16:37] hmmm [16:37] no my exams got moved around... [16:37] * magespawn was about to open a can of wip ass [16:37] haha [16:37] so think i did that one yesterday - still have to check which one it was [16:38] oh my [16:38] i thought i was forgetful [16:38] magespawn: they still come in cans? :P [16:39] i am relatively old, i bought a lot, soit might be a bit stale [16:39] * so it [16:39] lol [16:40] * chesedo only wrote all the important dates on a year planner... and last looked at it a month ago (cold kept him from the outer office) [16:40] lol [16:41] magespawn: by stale you suggesting that the sting will be more or less acute than usual? [16:42] i might have to shake it around a bit [16:42] lol ok [16:42] * chesedo wbb [17:09] right on my way home, will try to be online for the meeting === chesedo- is now known as chesedo [18:06] Kilos: i cannot edit the agenda (wiki page)??? [18:07] oh my [18:07] wiki lock down because of spammers [18:07] what do you want to add lad? [18:08] does it tell you immutable page [18:14] chesedo can you find the link in wiki for our team please [18:15] sorry , i dont think you will be able to tonight, but it will work next meeting or in a couple of days time [18:15] yes 'immutable page' - just want to change the chair [18:16] what is the link i will change it [18:16] i hope i can [18:16] https://wiki.ubuntu.com/ZATeam/Meetings/20160524 [18:17] ty its done [18:17] Kilos: ^^ [18:17] ... no longer 'unknown' :P [18:17] hehe [18:17] i think they have made it ubuntu members only [18:18] no Kilos it should be 'known' :P [18:18] but ill have it sorted [18:18] oh [18:18] lol kidding [18:18] sjoe [18:18] i was back there again [18:19] yeah and i started stressing [18:19] what is the link on wiki for ubuntu-za team [18:19] hi tahaan, first time i've seen you here? [18:19] ill ask for them all to be allowed [18:20] pro said so a week ago and i forgot [18:20] Kilos: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/ZATeam [18:20] hi tahaan [18:24] ty chesedo i mailed rt@ubuntu.com [18:25] i dont know who actually does that job [18:25] ai! [18:25] inetpro vloek my [18:28] ohi superfly [18:28] hi [18:29] hi skokkk [18:30] oh boy, hope my internet holds... [18:30] anyway... [18:30] Maaz: start meeting about Ubuntu Monthly Meeting - May 2016 [18:30] * Maaz gets out his memo-pad and cracks his knuckles [18:30] Maaz: topic Welcoming and Introduction [18:30] Current Topic: Welcoming and Introduction [18:30] Welcome all and thanks for joining in on our meeting this evening [18:30] maaz I am Wikus [18:30] mazal: Righto [18:31] Maaz I am Miles Sharpe [18:31] Kilos: Done [18:31] Our bot Maaz will do the minutes as usual so please introduce yourselves to him using `Maaz: I am ` eg. [18:31] Maaz: I am Pieter Engelbrecht [18:31] chesedo: Okay [18:31] Today's meeting agenda can be found at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/ZATeam/Meetings/20160524 [18:31] any last minute changes is welcome [18:31] mazal die van der merwe deel ook [18:32] maaz I am Wikus avn Dyk [18:32] mazal: Okay [18:32] Maaz: I am Raoul Snyman [18:32] superfly: Alrighty [18:32] Maaz: topic Review minutes of previous meeting [18:32] Current Topic: Review minutes of previous meeting [18:32] (but I'm not really here) [18:32] the last meeting's minutes is at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/ZATeam/Meetings/20160426 [18:33] i have apologies from kmf, he has sick kids to care for [18:33] superfly: will you be able to give us an update on debConf later? [18:33] Going over the previous minutes might help as a refresher [18:33] nlsthzn you joining? [18:34] does anyone have something they want to raise from the previous minutes? [18:35] Maaz: agreed No one has an issue with previous minutes [18:35] Agreed: No one has an issue with previous minutes [18:35] Maaz: topic Plans for 2016 [18:35] Current Topic: Plans for 2016 [18:35] is there any one needing help signing up for some or with Ubuntu membership? [18:36] ai! [18:36] everyone is afk [18:36] Ubuntu for Hope has no current updates that i am aware of - still have to create its website [18:36] yes [18:36] Kilos: so i see [18:37] there is a guy in capetown that is wanting to do the same there [18:37] has kapanda joined us again? [18:37] he has only used mail so far [18:37] peeps forget irc [18:37] Kilos: almost... just somewhat in reverse [18:38] What is the Ubuntu for hope ? [18:38] do you have the links chesedo [18:38] well kapanda is the cpt guy and in Jan's meeting he mentioned signing for ubuntu membership... [18:38] its building pcs for others that cant afford them mazal [18:38] https://ubuntuforhope.org/ [18:38] k [18:39] he hasnt chesedo [18:39] he will need to do lots more first [18:40] Maaz seen inetpro [18:40] Kilos: inetpro was last seen 11 hours, 44 minutes and 48 seconds ago in #ubuntu-za on freenode [2016-05-23 23:55:22 PDT], and has been online on freenode since 2016-05-22 07:43:15 PDT [18:40] mazal: https://bin.snyman.info/mmmzy8ce [18:41] Thanx chesedo [18:41] all ok if i move on to events [18:41] yessir [18:41] Maaz: topic Events [18:41] Current Topic: Events [18:42] Ubuntu for Hope's launch was in late April... kmf and I (with friends and family) enjoyed a mild morning in Pretoria's Betanical gardens to celebrate it [18:42] seems like we have nothing upcoming this June? [18:43] Kilos: you tried to orgainze a rp? [18:43] * chesedo hopes superfly is available soon for a debConf update... [18:44] that is a mail to the guys that control who has access to wiki pages [18:44] rp = release party [18:44] to get cds and stuff... [18:44] oh that [18:45] we need to first give all the info about the event before we can order the flash disks [18:45] so we have let it slide [18:45] ok so no flashes this release... [18:45] sec [18:46] sec for 'wait a second' or 'secondar' [18:46] wait a minute [18:46] hehe [18:47] im in contact with the guy who gives wiki permissions [18:47] Oi I almost said something now :P [18:47] Kilos, whats the drill to report again plse? [18:47] Naand oom Jan [18:47] i need the link for all our member on the wiki page we made [18:47] hi mazal [18:47] * tahaan bows to chesedo [18:48] i cant find it [18:48] ok so we can move topics Kilos? [18:48] * tahaan bows to Kilos [18:48] Sorry I'm busy with DebConf meeting [18:48] hi Langjan tahaan [18:48] Langjan, just say maaz I am name surname [18:48] * chesedo claps hands and bows back to tahaan [18:48] Maaz, I am Jan Greeff [18:48] Langjan: Sure [18:48] s/claps/clasps/ [18:48] tahaan? [18:49] ai! [18:49] Kilos: I'm going to need the team to be moderated or restricted before we do that [18:49] hi all [18:49] hi magespawn [18:49] hi tahaan [18:49] hi magespawn Langjan tahaan login please [18:50] Maaz I am Greg Eames [18:50] magespawn: Yessir [18:50] paddatrapper: will you maybe be able to give us an update on it in a bit (if possible)? [18:50] chesedo: sure [18:50] Just ping me when you want it [18:51] paddatrapper: you can start typing and just throw it in... [18:51] Maaz: topic DebConf volunteers/update [18:51] Current Topic: DebConf volunteers/update [18:52] kmf also mentioned that he will be able to volunteer on-site at debConf (@paddatrapper, @superfly) [18:52] sorry, i'm in as [18:53] *another meeting [18:53] Well it's happening. Everything seems on track. Bursaries are mostly finalised and re-confirmation emails have been sent out [18:53] Quotes for various things are being decided on at the moment [18:53] * chesedo hopes Cryterion & Vince made that list [18:54]