[01:25] <hydrogen> So I'm trying to add a host on my local network for some devel stuff, and I've put <ip address> <host.localsite> in my etc/hosts
[01:25] <hydrogen> but etc/hosts seems to be completely ignored
[01:47] <pasjrwoctx> Anyone here know how to create a separate X session in ubuntu 16.04 so that I can use one monitor to work on, and the other to watch something eles.  Without the second monitor changing virtual desktops while I change them on the first display?  I used to be able to do this in 12.04, but know the nvidia-settings control display is undefined and I have no clue how to us it.
[02:34] <grimlock> hi
[02:35] <grimlock> anyone have any experience with the physical volume for encryption crash in the 14.04 installer?
[02:35] <pasjrwoctx> hello
[02:35] <pasjrwoctx> sorry I do not
[02:35] <grimlock> ok
[02:35] <grimlock> i've looked it up but it seems like the bug persists a lot in kubuntu
[05:40] <YankDownUnder> Anyone having issues with Plasma in conjunction with kscreenlocker - as well as widgets just not loading...? Just wondering...
[05:40] <hateball> If you describe your problems in more detail perhaps
[05:40] <hateball> !details
[05:45] <YankDownUnder> kscreenlocker, when activated via widget or key-combo, does not accept keyboard input. As well, Plasma widgets do not load until "toolbox" is clicked and "Add widgets" is selected; often the default wallpaper does not show until the widgets show on desktop. Ubuntu 16.04. KDE/Plasma is default desktop, SDDM is the DM.
[05:52] <hateball> YankDownUnder: That's nicely detailed :) Sadly I don't have any idea, but someone else might if you stick around
[05:52] <hateball> YankDownUnder: Do you use multiple monitors? They are the cause of much ill in recent Plasma/Qt
[06:10] <YankDownUnder> hateball, I've dug around online for the past week - have found heaps of instances with exactly what I've described - however, the "fix" was to have the monitors setup "adjacent" in the prefs, and to make use of "DRI2" instead of "DRI3" in the X configurations...so, that being said, it doesn't appear as thought that's truly a "fix" - but merely a bandage to something slightly greater...either which, I've got time and
[06:10] <YankDownUnder> patience...ain't like it's vastly critical...doesn't stop me from doing what I need to do...
[06:11] <hateball> YankDownUnder: So you do use multiple monitors then?
[06:11] <hateball> YankDownUnder: I've seen mention of disabling kscreen and manually using xrandr instead
[06:11] <YankDownUnder> hateball, Oh yes...can't live without THAT ability my friend..
[06:11] <hateball> YankDownUnder: No I understand, it's just useful to know for anyone diagnosing :)
[06:11] <YankDownUnder> hateball, "Been there done that", bro...it's still a "no go" on that.
[06:11] <hateball> :|
[06:12] <YankDownUnder> Hehehe...could be worse...
[06:12] <YankDownUnder> ...and I've seen HEAPS worse...
[06:12] <hateball> From what I've heard things are no better in backported plasma 5.6 either
[06:13] <YankDownUnder> With this new LTS release, I'm sure that some of the devs are going to get "kickstarted" into things...either which, again, it could be much worse...and for me, well, it's literally been years since I've even bothered playing with or using KDE...so, this is minor in comparison to what I've seen in the distant past...truly..
[06:18] <hateball> YankDownUnder: Well I personally have been running plasma 5 for a good while without any major issues. Until I switched my workmachine (multimonitor) from 14.04 to 16.04
[06:19] <hateball> And KDE 4.4 and up has served me well
[06:19] <YankDownUnder> hateball, That is interesting to know...therefore, it was the "multi-monitor" thingo that caused things to go "south" as it were...funny that...
[06:20] <YankDownUnder> Can't remembe which version of KDE I was on the longest...kinda reckon it was like 3.2 or so...been a while...then again, there was a time when both KDE and Gnome were in their early years and not many actually thought they'd survive long...I was on Englightenment DR15 back then...
[07:15] <sverro2> hi, is anyone online responsible for packaging?
[07:16] <sverro2> or can I contact someone via a different channel?
[07:17] <hateball> sverro2: I think perhaps those guys are in #kubuntu-devel
[07:17] <sverro2> hateball: thx
[08:54] <matt3> quit
[11:01] <sandeepsihari> hi
[11:45] <BluesKaj> Hey folks
[14:52] <k00pa> is the installer supposed to be slow as hell?
[14:52] <k00pa> should "disk setup" take like 5 mins to open or wtf
[14:55] <yossarianuk> k00pa: always happens to me with kubuntu installer also unless its a blank drive.
[14:55] <k00pa> running from a USB stick and trying to install to a empty HD
[14:55] <yossarianuk> do you have any other usn drives attached ?
[14:55] <yossarianuk> *usb*
[14:55] <k00pa> nope
[14:56] <k00pa> well nooow it opened
[14:56] <k00pa> could just be that the stick is slow as hell
[14:56] <yossarianuk> its odd - happens to me also.
[14:56] <yossarianuk> you using UEFI ?
[14:56] <yossarianuk> (just out of interest)
[14:57] <k00pa> I have no idea how I have configured that
[14:57] <k00pa> but the motherboard has that
[14:57] <k00pa> okey looks like I am going forward in this
[14:58] <k00pa> I am not going to bother with dualbooting, as I have separated disks for windows and linux
[14:58] <yossarianuk> just wondering if its a UEFI thing...
[14:58] <k00pa> I think this is just the system being slow on the USB stick or osmething
[14:58] <yossarianuk> older versions (older than 15.04) it didn't happen (i.e the huge wait)
[14:59] <k00pa> hmmm
[14:59] <k00pa> interesting, 15.10 installation is going for me
[14:59] <yossarianuk> in those days I used legacy also.
[14:59] <user|40511> Hi
[14:59] <user|40511> have install kubuntu 16.04 for the first time
[14:59] <yossarianuk> k00pa: why 15.10 ? 16.04 is out now, you only have a few months before 15.10 is EOL
[14:59] <k00pa> well this seems to work somewhat, all good
[14:59] <k00pa> wait lol
[15:00] <k00pa> can I just upgrade from that?
[15:00] <yossarianuk> yes you can
[15:00] <k00pa> I had that iso on the stick and I was too lazy to download a new one
[15:00] <k00pa> not my primary day to day os anyway so I don't mind minor mess
[15:00] <yossarianuk> fair enough... I normally have less issues doing a fresh install
[15:00] <k00pa> ye thats true
[15:00] <user|40511> am using ubuntu since 2008, i thought let try plasma also
[15:00] <k00pa> but this is just for one project to get ported over
[15:01] <yossarianuk> 16.04 got rid of a few major issues  for me with hybrid graphics...
[15:01] <k00pa> I have not even touched desktop of linux for like 8 years now, hehe
[15:01] <k00pa> using it only on servers
[15:01] <user|40511> but have worst experience with kubuntu 16.04
[15:01] <user|40511> so have again move on to ubuntu 16.04
[15:02] <yossarianuk> I also highly recommend using the backports PPA with 16.04 - Plasma 5.6.4 seems faster with less bugs......
[15:02] <yossarianuk> user|40511: what issues are you having
[15:02] <yossarianuk> personally I couldn't move to ubuntu/unity
[15:03] <k00pa> yossarianuk: thanks for info
[15:24] <x120e> hi
[15:26] <x120e> im newbie on kubuntu, i have a question how to upgrade kde 4.13.3 to kde 5.4 on kubuntu 14.04
[15:26] <x120e> ?
[15:34] <yossarianuk> x120e: without compiling yourself you may find it harde
[15:34] <yossarianuk> easiest way = upgrade to 16.04
[15:41] <x120e> yossarianuk: my 00:01.0 VGA compatible controller: Advanced Micro Devices, Inc. [AMD/ATI] Wrestler [Radeon HD 6310]
[15:41] <x120e> I've tried to install the driver vga 16.04 but I have not been supported at 16.04???
[15:44] <yossarianuk> x120e: your card will be supported with the opendriver now I belive
[15:45] <yossarianuk> x120e: http://askubuntu.com/questions/762011/amd-video-driver-on-16-04
[15:53] <BluesKaj> x120e, it's the xserver-xorg-video-amdgpu I believe
[16:27] <k00pa> I like how the whole OS freezes when I try to install / update stuff
[16:31] <BluesKaj> k00pa, freezes completely ?
[16:32] <k00pa> only mouse moves
[16:32] <k00pa> ctrl + alt + f1 doesn't work
[16:32] <k00pa> 3 times in a row
[16:32] <BluesKaj> try f2 in place of f1
[16:32] <k00pa> tried bunch of them
[16:33] <BluesKaj> ok try f then escape
[16:33] <k00pa> what does that do
[16:34] <BluesKaj> it used to get rid of frozen full screen like a browser
[16:35] <k00pa> lol well thats useful pattern for that
[16:35] <BluesKaj> konsonantenboy, worst case tr alt+prtscn REISUB to boot out of the OS
[16:36] <BluesKaj> oops k00pa
[16:37] <k00pa> ye I can just reset my computer
[16:37] <k00pa> I want it to not do the freezing at all
[16:39] <BluesKaj> and you say sudo apt update && sudo apt upgrade,  freezes everything
[16:39] <k00pa> well I did the upgrade thing
[16:39] <k00pa> then I tried to install .dep
[16:39] <k00pa> and it freezes when those are done
[16:39] <k00pa> like, some way into the download for example
[16:40] <k00pa> or its just the shitty drivers on GPU
[16:41] <BluesKaj> k00pa, make sure you do a full upgrade as well if youre gonna foola round with dep
[16:43] <BluesKaj> and install appstream first
[16:44] <BluesKaj> ok , bbl goota check other stuff
[16:56] <k00pa> yeh well this is just freezing when I try to upgrade
[16:56] <k00pa> fuck this shit
[16:56] <k00pa> changed the GPU drivers to the propietary ones
[16:59] <pepee> some days ago, I came asking why "qdbus org.kde.Solid.PowerManagement /org/kde/Solid/PowerManagement/Actions/BrightnessControl setBrightness <number>" (command to change the display brightness) didn't work
[17:00] <k00pa> failsafe mode is pretty good, it doesnt even start up
[17:00] <pepee> FYI, the solution is to use setBrightnessSilent instead
[17:10] <user|34995> Hi.. i am Mads from Denmark and i am brand new with this... just downloaded the 16.04 lts onto a usb-stick for my homebuild n3700 intel min pc.
[17:10] <user|34995> Do i need a wired keyboard to install ?
[17:11] <pepee> user|34995, as opposed to a wireless one?
[17:11] <user|34995> yes
[17:12] <pepee> user|34995, I don't know, but I guess you could try it. if it's supported, it should work, otherwise... bad luck, try another keyboard
[17:14] <user|34995> Will do,, have more problems though.. new pc wont even turn on..
[17:14] <user|34995> thanks
[17:17] <user|34995> got pc started,, got the 16.04 on usb , and wireless working
[17:18] <user|34995> do i need to unrap the downloaded file before install ?
[17:20] <user|34995> Please.. ?
[17:20] <pepee> unrap?
[17:22] <user|34995> Hey Pepee, iam Mads and brand new with inastall of Kbuntu
[17:22] <pepee> user|34995, yeah, I read that already :P
[17:22] <user|34995> I have downloaded this file onto a usb stick, an pc is raw
[17:22] <pepee> what do you mean by unrap? (english is not my 1st language)
[17:23] <pepee> also, what file? the iso (dvd) image?
[17:23] <user|34995> do i need to do something with the file before its a installation file, (think it was 1.6 gb named 16.04)
[17:24] <user|34995> ... before i can use the file to installation...
[17:24] <pepee> ah
[17:25] <pepee> you have to burn a dvd, or install kubuntu in another usb drive
[17:25] <pepee> user|34995, https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Installation/FromUSBStick
[17:26] <user|34995> ahhh ha.. goin to read a bit..
[17:27] <ww1965> Hello everybody! Updated my Kubuntu to 16.04 today. Now I've got trouble with my Intel Graphics Adapter. Cannot get resolution > 1024x768. Created a xorg.conf file to explizitly tell Linux how to configure, but that did not take effect. Can somebody help my please?
[17:27] <pepee> user|34995, well, you could watch some videos, there are many out there on how to install kubuntu
[17:30] <ww1965> Well, I'm familar with installing Kubuntu for some years. I do not think that is an issue of wrong installation. On another machine using ATI-card everything went cool...
[17:32] <pepee> ww1965, I guess you need some pass some flags to the kernel. also, you could ask in #intel-gfx
[17:34] <ww1965> That might be a good idea. Trials to fix the issue using xrandr with --mode option did not take effect. So changing some kernel flags hopefully will help. Thank you!
[17:34] <pepee> ww1965, yw
[17:43] <user|34995> thanx.. goin to go out for i while and try read,, will bee back ,, thnx again.
[19:33] <viewer|63042> Hi ! I have an issue when encrypting th swap partition after to have installed Kubuntu...
[19:33] <viewer|63042> " ecryptfs-setup-swap " in the terminal, and the result is:
[19:33] <viewer|63042> WARNING: [/dev/zram0] is a RAM device, skipping.
[19:33] <viewer|63042> WARNING: [/dev/zram1] is a RAM device, skipping.
[19:33] <viewer|63042> WARNING: there were no usable swap devices to be encrypted. Exiting.
[19:33] <viewer|63042> any reason why??
[19:34] <viewer|63042> even if I delete the swap and create a new one and run after ecryptfs-setup-swapm the swap is not encrypted either...
[19:36] <genii> viewer|63042: Perhaps take a look at http://askubuntu.com/questions/463661/encrypted-swap-partition-for-14-04
[19:38] <viewer|63042> @genii: thanks !   I will try it
[20:23] <viewer|92862> hi all, first of all sorry for my english... I have a problem, I installed Kubuntu 16.04 on a usb but I can't connect to the wifi... some help?
[20:34] <andy123> viewer|92862: where are you stuck?
[20:34] <andy123> is your router listed in the network manager?
[20:35] <andy123> (the access point name)
[22:18] <Guest14409> Hey folks, I'm doing a fresh install of 16.04 and the installer has hung at keyboard layout
[22:18] <Guest14409> Does anyone have any suggestions
[22:18] <Guest14409> ?
[22:18] <Guest14409> It simply won't move forwards
[22:20] <Guest14409> Now it has closed and I can't get it to launch again
[22:26] <bprompt_> Guest14409:     what make and model of pc do  you have?
[22:28] <Guest14409> bprompt_: custom build, AMD FX 8320, nvidia gtx 760, 24GB RAM
[22:32] <Guest14409> bprompt_: and now nothing but konversation seems to be functioning
[22:33] <bprompt_> Guest14409:    so, it did install then?
[22:33] <Guest14409> Well, it partially installed I think but then the installer failed. Then I ran it again and now I can't get the installer back up
[22:33] <Guest14409> Nor can I get firefox up
[22:34] <Guest14409> Nor can I get konsole to do anything
[22:34] <Guest14409> Kickoff doesn't budge when I click on it
[22:34] <bprompt_> Guest14409:    so... how are you running konversation then?   liveusb session?
[22:35] <Guest14409> Yeah, everything else in the live session has stopped working
[22:36] <matt1> Guest14409: reboot into a new liveusb session.  try picking the keyboard without autodetect
[22:36] <Guest14409> Alright, back in a few
[22:46] <kubuntu_> this installer just does not want to agree with me
[22:46] <kubuntu_> bprompt_: I'm back
[22:47] <kubuntu_> The installer now just crashes at the keyboard section
[22:47] <YankDownUnder> kubuntu_, Have you tried to just plug in a different keyboard to get through the installation?
[22:48] <kubuntu_> Yeah
[22:48] <bprompt_> kubuntu_:    did you try choosing the keyboard manually as matt1 suggested?
[22:48] <kubuntu_> I did indeed
[22:49] <bprompt_> ahemm
[22:49] <kubuntu_> And unfortuantely there's nothing that comes up in the crash message that provides any useful data
[22:49] <YankDownUnder> So when the choice comes up, are you just clicking "next" - or doing something else? BTW, what type of keyboard - a USB plugged in type of keyboard...?
[22:50] <kubuntu_> YankDownUnder: So I make sure to select english by myself and then it crashes
[22:51] <kubuntu_> The keyboard that I was using a minute ago was a USB keyboard but I'm currently using a PS/2 leyboard
[22:51] <kubuntu_> *Keyboard
[22:51] <bprompt_> kubuntu_:    ok... hmmm what you can try is.... boot again to it, once at the very beginning, when you see the circle icon at the bottom of the screen, at the very beginning of the bootup, press Esc, that should take you to the boot up menu, with several options, if you press F6, it'd have some things you can uncheck, so it doesn't load some drivers
[22:51] <YankDownUnder> In the BIOS of this machine, have you changed/configured any settings for USB/ps2? In most BIOS, you can enable/disable "legacy"...
[22:52] <kubuntu_> YankDownUnder: the PS/2 ports are enabled if that's what you're asking
[22:52] <bprompt_> kubuntu_:    what I suspect is either videocard driver issue, or some APM driver, some hardware incompatibility with the driver it's trying to load
[22:52] <kubuntu_> bprompt_: so what driver should I unload?
[22:53] <bprompt_> kubuntu_:    ok... hmmm what you can try is.... boot again to it, once at the very beginning, when you see the circle icon at the bottom of the screen, at the very beginning of the bootup, press Esc, that should take you to the boot up menu, with several options, if you press F6, it'd have some things you can uncheck, so it doesn't load some drivers
[22:53] <kubuntu_> This is a liveUSB by the way. I made it with unetbootin
[22:53] <bprompt_> kubuntu_:   hmmm you know, you can just get the iso and burn it :)
[22:53] <kubuntu_> bprompt_: so untick all of those
[22:53] <kubuntu_> bprompt_: true, but I don't have a DVD handy
[22:54] <bprompt_> kubuntu_:    untick some, just a few, one I can think of is acpi and apm maybe
[22:54] <YankDownUnder> kubuntu_, On a machine I was just working on - there's an option in BIOS to "enable legacy support" for USB and PS/2 => I enabled them and several issues disappeared...however, as bprompt_ mentioned, it could be an IRQ/DMA issue with the graphics card...therefore, disabling some drivers as they load...
[22:54] <bprompt_> kubuntu_:   the iso burns to dvd or usb, just the same
[22:56] <kubuntu_> Tell you guys what, I'm gonna take a little break from this and come back in a few.
[22:56] <kubuntu_> I am going to power this off for the time being
[22:57] <YankDownUnder> kubuntu_, Need a hammer? I've got a nice one...
[22:57] <kubuntu_> I'll probably be back later
[22:58] <bprompt_> kubuntu_:     get a coke, put some mozart on, give it 30mins or so :)
[22:59] <bprompt_> I also have mp3s of rainfall, thunderstorms and running creeks, those are great =)
[22:59] <YankDownUnder> Mozart, yes - Coke? No...(poison)
[23:00] <bprompt_> kubuntu_:   or just watch Office Space movie, that'll get you 2hrs =)
[23:01] <YankDownUnder> "That's my stapler."
[23:01] <bprompt_> hehe
[23:03] <hydrogen> Does anyone happen to know what 16.04 did that broke the /etc/hosts file?
[23:03] <hydrogen> well, more importantly how to fix it
[23:04] <YankDownUnder> hydrogen, Did you have a customised "hosts" and now it's borked, or...?
[23:04] <hydrogen> Yes
[23:04] <hydrogen> well, if by borked you mean completely ignored :)
[23:04] <hydrogen> then we are in agreement
[23:05] <hydrogen> my nssswitch.conf shows files being first still
[23:05] <hydrogen> everything on google about it didn't help, and seems older
[23:06] <YankDownUnder> hydrogen, Hmm...so you've "re-customised" it and then restarted networking and it's just not doing what it's supposed to be doing, right?
[23:06] <YankDownUnder> hydrogen, ..or something simiar...
[23:07] <hydrogen> yeah
[23:07] <hydrogen> I've tried disabling dnsmasq, disabling network manager, reenabling both, enabling some of both
[23:07] <hydrogen> punching my router in the face
[23:07] <hydrogen> but the same hosts works fine on my os x machine so I'm fairly confident it's not an error in there
[23:10] <YankDownUnder> hydrogen, Just for giggles and grins - did you "recreate" a new hosts file...? Just asking so I can paint a good picture in my mind, bro...
[23:12] <hydrogen> I haven't, because I have no idea what the default would be
[23:15] <YankDownUnder> hydrogen, So in going through the KDE control centre and checking/changing network settings, nothing is affecting the /etc/hosts file in the least? And you've edited the same /etc/hosts file to reflect what you're already using on your OSX box...?
[23:48] <hydrogen> yes
[23:48] <hydrogen> sorry, I got distracted